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Sections older than <b>365 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 5 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application" data-mw-thread-id="h-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z"></span>Free Rider Problem in Culture and Societal Application<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Free Rider Problem in Culture and Societal Application"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.25.0.122-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application"></span>Suggestion: This article can become a discrete topic under <a href="/wiki/Social_loafing" title="Social loafing">social loafing</a> if a section devoted to how the <a href="/wiki/Free_rider_problem" class="mw-redirect" title="Free rider problem">free rider problem</a> applies in a societal context. </p><p>I think that if we analyze how different economic structures support/discourage free riders, the article would become stronger. Readers are looking for real world evidence in current events and history which point to the <a href="/wiki/Free_rider_problem" class="mw-redirect" title="Free rider problem">free rider problem</a>. By going into established theories on how communism vs. capitalism affects free riders, and how certain cultures around the world have different effects on free riders at an individual level, (such as collectivist cultures in the East having documented lower problems with <a href="/wiki/Social_loafing" title="Social loafing">social loafing</a>), we can create an informative article on this issue. I welcome suggestions as to how to best approach this as I plan on contributing personally to such a section in the article. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Akaychestnut" title="User:Akaychestnut">Akaychestnut</a> 15:55 Sept 21, 2014 (EST) </p><p>The human economic migration problems (globally) seem to be good examples of how the free-rider problem can impact the decisions of large populations to migrate long distances to take advantage of the largess of more economically developed countries. There is hope that once settled, these migrants will become "net producers" and leave the ranks of free-riders. In the meantime, the existing "net producers" in the countries hosting these new economic immigrants bear the weight of paying for the increased costs of accommodating the new residents (who may be citizens, or not). As we have seen all over Europe in the last 20 years of Middle Eastern wars, the host countries have been severely strained by the increased costs and have erected considerable physical and legal barriers to unrestricted immigration (amid great criticism from advocates for free migration). The US, facing the evacuation of impoverished people from Central America moving to the US border, is struggling with this issue and has not reached consensus on the balance between altruism and self-interest of its own citizens. I would like to see an academic/economic (not political) discussion of the free-rider problem involving human migration.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.25.0.122" title="Special:Contributions/76.25.0.122">76.25.0.122</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:76.25.0.122&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:76.25.0.122 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free-rider_problem#c-76.25.0.122-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)</a> MWilliams March 3, 2021<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.25.0.122-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.25.0.122-2021-03-03T18:52:00.000Z-Free_Rider_Problem_in_Culture_and_Societal_Application"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Malibu_Surfer_redirects_here,_but_isn't_covered_or_discussed_here." data-mw-thread-id="h-Malibu_Surfer_redirects_here,_but_isn't_covered_or_discussed_here."><span id="Malibu_Surfer_redirects_here.2C_but_isn.27t_covered_or_discussed_here."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Malibu_Surfer_redirects_here,_but_isn't_covered_or_discussed_here."></span>Malibu Surfer redirects here, but isn't covered or discussed here.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Malibu_Surfer_redirects_here,_but_isn't_covered_or_discussed_here."></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Malibu Surfer redirects here, but isn't covered or discussed here."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The malibu surfer problem redirects here, despite being an entirely separate concept. It is not discussed or covered here and should most likely be a separate article. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Useful_Additional_Sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Useful_Additional_Sources"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Useful_Additional_Sources"></span>Useful Additional Sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Useful_Additional_Sources"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Useful Additional Sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>About topic of <a href="/wiki/Free-rider_problem" title="Free-rider problem">Free-rider problem</a> </p> <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/S0266267100002480">https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/S0266267100002480</a> </p> <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2601275?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents">https://www.jstor.org/stable/2601275?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z"><span id="Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z"></span>Does this article still need additional verification?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Does this article still need additional verification?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nereocystis-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?"></span>If we do not not need additional verification, let's remove the template for "More citations needed". If we do need additional verification, let's specify what areas are lacking in verification. <a href="/wiki/User:Nereocystis" title="User:Nereocystis">Nereocystis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nereocystis" title="User talk:Nereocystis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free-rider_problem#c-Nereocystis-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nereocystis-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nereocystis-2020-11-20T18:30:00.000Z-Does_this_article_still_need_additional_verification?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="One_or_the_other" data-mw-thread-id="h-One_or_the_other-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-One_or_the_other-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z"></span>One or the other<span data-mw-comment-end="h-One_or_the_other-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: One or the other"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chrisfoxinc-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z-One_or_the_other"></span>I don't know where to write this either, sorry. But the article defines the free rider problem as both (1) a market failure and (2) a question of how to limit free riding. Surely it should be one or the other. If so, I should be (1) because (2) seems circular. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Chrisfoxinc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Chrisfoxinc (page does not exist)">Chrisfoxinc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chrisfoxinc#top" title="User talk:Chrisfoxinc">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chrisfoxinc" title="Special:Contributions/Chrisfoxinc">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free-rider_problem#c-Chrisfoxinc-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z-One_or_the_other" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 24 December 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chrisfoxinc-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z-One_or_the_other"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chrisfoxinc-2021-12-24T11:43:00.000Z-One_or_the_other"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&oldid=1207296251">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Free-rider_problem&oldid=1207296251</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_game_theory_articles" title="Category:Start-Class game theory articles">Start-Class game theory articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_game_theory_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance game theory articles">Mid-importance game theory articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_articles_with_conflicting_quality_ratings" title="Category:C-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings">C-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Economics_articles" title="Category:C-Class Economics articles">C-Class Economics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Economics_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Economics articles">Mid-importance Economics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Economics_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Economics articles">WikiProject Economics articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_articles_with_conflicting_quality_ratings" title="Category:B-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings">B-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:B-Class_WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:B-Class WikiProject Business articles">B-Class WikiProject Business articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:High-importance WikiProject Business articles">High-importance WikiProject Business articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Business_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Business articles">WikiProject Business articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 14 February 2024, at 13:01<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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