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Not gas.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T05:31:47-0800" data-time="1731331907" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="5:31 AM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 5:31 AM" itemprop="dateModified">Nov 11, 2024</time> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">Abolish the deciBel !</div> </aside> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post 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href="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/attachments/147707/" target="_blank">View attachment 147707</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hi,<br /> Gas powered generators is a subject I've just got interested in.<br /> Instead of looking this one up, I'll ask here, and get some expert answers <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> <br /> In my country, electric per KW is 3x more expensive that gas per KW.<br /> If I had a gas generator, could it's output efficiency compete with the price of electric?<br /> C.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" 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data-content-selector="#post-1457358">camerart said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi,<br /> Gas powered generators is a subject I've just got interested in.<br /> Instead of looking this one up, I'll ask here, and get some expert answers <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /><br /> <br /> In my country, electric per KW is 3x more expensive that gas per KW.<br /> If I had a gas generator, could it's output efficiency compete with the price of electric?<br /> C. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I somehow doubt it, you would need a substantially large generator and a much cheaper gas price.<br /> <br /> The 'price per kilowatt' doesn't really compare, because you don't price gas in kilowatts. 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class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No, because you can't get an efficiency of 1/3rd from a gas generator.<br /> <br /> If you can use the waste heat from the generator to heat your house in place of gas that you would otherwise burn in a boiler or furnace, then what electricity you get is at the cost of the gas, plus the costs of buying and maintaining the generator.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper"><a href="http://twitter.com/mtrak_uk" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://twitter.com/mtrak_uk</a></div> </aside> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" 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The process is called cogeneration. Unfortunately, it doesn't help much in warm climates. This makes it viable only in the Northern parts of the US and Canada. Probably would work well in the Arctic Circle countries of northern Europe as well.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="ZipZapOuch" data-content="post-1457370" id="js-post-1457370" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1457370/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1457370"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/" /> <div class="message-avatar message-avatar--online"> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/322/322126.jpg?1721790915" srcset="/data/avatars/l/322/322126.jpg?1721790915 2x" alt="ZipZapOuch" class="avatar-u322126-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> <span class="message-avatar-online" tabindex="0" data-xf-init="tooltip" data-trigger="auto" title="Online now"></span> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">ZipZapOuch</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Active Member</h5> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457370" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-12T05:47:44-0800" data-time="1731419264" data-date-string="Nov 12, 2024" data-time-string="5:47 AM" title="Nov 12, 2024 at 5:47 AM" itemprop="datePublished">Nov 12, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457370" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1457370/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457370" rel="nofollow"> #17 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-1457370" data-lb-caption-desc="ZipZapOuch · Nov 12, 2024 at 5:47 AM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 51727" data-quote="Externet" data-source="post: 1457336" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1457336" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1457336">Externet said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> This works with gas :<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/attachments/147707/" target="_blank">View attachment 147707</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Look around the internet, the Generac Brand seems to need new brushes on a regular basis (24 to 48 hours of use). If true, I'd prefer not to expect it to work and disappoint myself when it fails - especially at $7000 or more with installation.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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Thank you. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></div> </aside> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="camerart" data-content="post-1457403" id="js-post-1457403" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1457403/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1457403"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/camerart.91879/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/camerart.91879/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/camerart.91879/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="91879" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/91/91879.jpg?1410165967" alt="camerart" class="avatar-u91879-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/camerart.91879/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="91879" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">camerart</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Well-Known Member</h5> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457403" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-13T13:38:43-0800" data-time="1731533923" data-date-string="Nov 13, 2024" data-time-string="1:38 PM" title="Nov 13, 2024 at 1:38 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Nov 13, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457403" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1457403/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/how-does-this-generator-work.166892/post-1457403" rel="nofollow"> #20 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-1457403" data-lb-caption-desc="camerart · Nov 13, 2024 at 1:38 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 51727" data-quote="Externet" data-source="post: 1457297" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1457297" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1457297">Externet said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hello.<br /> My little portable generator Coleman 2500W died. Opened it to see and found the rotor assembly winding (2) has <b>no</b> brushes. The stator windings has a connector(6): 2 yellow wires to a capacitor and a black and a white to the 120VAC outlet.<br /> How does it work ? 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