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I recall the suspicion was that 3DNow! was all hype and marketing. <a href="/wiki/User:Tempshill" title="User:Tempshill">Tempshill</a> 22:07, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>As far as I know Microsoft DirectX and mplayer heavily use 3DNow! when available. But since virtually all x86 processors now support SSE the interest in 3DNow! generally fades away.<a href="/wiki/User:Zuxy" title="User:Zuxy">Zuxy</a></dd></dl> <p>It says "However, 3DNow! instructions can generally be executed with a lower latency and throughput than SSE instructions." Does this mean lower latency AND lower throughput? This is unclear, especially as the contexts seem to present an advantage over SSE. </p> <dl><dd>latency means how long it takes to perform 1 instruction; throughput means how long it takes to perform each subsequent instruction. so lower latency and lower throughput = quicker execution</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rumour_or_truth" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rumour_or_truth-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rumour_or_truth-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z"></span>Rumour or truth<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rumour_or_truth-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Rumour or truth"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Claunia-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z-Rumour_or_truth"></span>Long time ago I've heard that when a program simply used MMX or x87 instructions, the processor is able to real-time change the code to use better and faster 3DNow! instructions without any application intervention or modification. </p><p>Is that real, or was only a rumour? </p><p>—<a href="/wiki/User:Claunia" title="User:Claunia">Claunia</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Claunia-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z-Rumour_or_truth" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 27 August 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Claunia-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z-Rumour_or_truth"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Claunia-2005-08-27T23:17:00.000Z-Rumour_or_truth"></span> </p> <dl><dd>It's a rumor, I'm afraid. Recent x86 processors (newer than Pentium Pro and K6) translate x86 instructions into RISC-like micro-ops on the fly and schedule/execute these micro-ops, but there's no x87->3DNow! translation. Programs have to rewritten and recompiled to use 3DNow! instructions.<a href="/wiki/User:Zuxy" title="User:Zuxy">Zuxy</a></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="3dnow2?" data-mw-thread-id="h-3dnow2?-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z"><span id="3dnow2.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-3dnow2?-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z"></span>3dnow2?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-3dnow2?-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: 3dnow2?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pandora_Xero-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z-3dnow2?"></span>I was running mplayer to watch a video on my linux ststem, and saw the following among its output <code>MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team<br /> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (Family: 15, Model: 12, Stepping: 0)<br /> 3DNowExt supported but disabled<br /> CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1<br /> </code><br /> Does anyone know anything about this 3DNow2 flag? --<a href="/wiki/User:Pandora_Xero" title="User:Pandora Xero">Pandora Xero</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Pandora_Xero-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z-3dnow2?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pandora_Xero-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z-3dnow2?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pandora_Xero-2007-09-05T13:49:00.000Z-3dnow2?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Drop_the_exclamation_mark?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"><span id="Drop_the_exclamation_mark.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"></span>Drop the exclamation mark?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Drop the exclamation mark?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?"></span>Should we? It does look a bit silly that every time 3DNow! is mentioned we have !!!!! <a href="/wiki/User:Rilak" title="User:Rilak">Rilak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rilak" title="User talk:Rilak">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z-Drop_the_exclamation_mark?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C_xong-2010-03-04T02:42:00.000Z-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"></span>It's part of the trademark, so it has to stay. Compare with the <a href="/wiki/Yahoo!" class="mw-redirect" title="Yahoo!">Yahoo!</a> article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:C_xong&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:C xong (page does not exist)">C xong</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C_xong" title="User talk:C xong">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-C_xong-2010-03-04T02:42:00.000Z-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C_xong-2010-03-04T02:42:00.000Z-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C_xong-2010-03-04T02:42:00.000Z-Rilak-2009-03-20T11:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Remove_the_word_rape?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Remove_the_word_rape?-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z"><span id="Remove_the_word_rape.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Remove_the_word_rape?-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z"></span>Remove the word rape?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Remove_the_word_rape?-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Remove the word rape?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWaters-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z-Remove_the_word_rape?"></span>I don't think that the first sentence should contain the word rape. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheWaters&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheWaters (page does not exist)">TheWaters</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWaters" title="User talk:TheWaters">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-TheWaters-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z-Remove_the_word_rape?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWaters-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z-Remove_the_word_rape?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWaters-2009-09-01T23:56:00.000Z-Remove_the_word_rape?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_be_wrong_assumption" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_be_wrong_assumption-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_be_wrong_assumption-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Can be wrong assumption<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_be_wrong_assumption-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Can be wrong assumption"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Versatranitsonlywaytofly-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z-Can_be_wrong_assumption"></span>From article: "Software written to use AMD's 3DNow! instead of the slower x87 FPU could execute up to 4x faster, depending on the instruction-mix." </p> <dl><dd>It can be not true, just assuming, that x87 FPU is 80 bits, and "3Dnow!" is 128 bits, and that if you use 4 single precision (four 32 bit), then it fit into 128bit (32*4). But there is highly possibility that "3Dnow!" (as well as SSE instructions) are based on calculation of earlier instructions (on general purpose instructions in CPU as "x87 FPU" instructions as well). So this instructions just simplify programing and do not making calculation any faster at all. For example code written in C++ of cosine function and code of SSE instruction of cosine function will be calculated in same time don't matter it is for scalars or vector.xyzw. Only if you somehow really can prove that begining with "x87 FPU" instructions (which are since 486 CPU) there was added additional 80 multiplication and similar calculations (-,+,/) units. But even general purpose instructions (at least in modern processors) are 32 bits or 64 bits (16 bits for 8086/286 and 32 for 386DX and till Pentium 4 and then goes 32bits and 64bits for "Core i7" and 64bit types CPU's). My guess is that there is only one unit of multiplication, subtraction, addition and division (and those are in general purpose instructions since 8086). All over SSE based on those, so are just concurrency of where to hold instructions in CPU some kind BIOS (or ROM) or in C++ codes (HDD). And I mean there no any clue to understand how much faster, for example, calculation of 4 cosine numbers parallel using SSE instructions, than calculating cosine using your <a href="/wiki/Taylor_series" title="Taylor series">Taylor series</a> code, which would not use neither SSE nor "3Dnow!" nor any over (except maybe those which are since 8086 or 386 CPU). I think it should be 4 cosine SSE parallel still slower four times than one cosine (using Taylor series) based on 8086 instructions (GP). <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Versatranitsonlywaytofly" title="User:Versatranitsonlywaytofly">Versatranitsonlywaytofly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Versatranitsonlywaytofly" title="User talk:Versatranitsonlywaytofly">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Versatranitsonlywaytofly" title="Special:Contributions/Versatranitsonlywaytofly">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Versatranitsonlywaytofly-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z-Can_be_wrong_assumption" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)</a></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Versatranitsonlywaytofly-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z-Can_be_wrong_assumption"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Versatranitsonlywaytofly-2012-02-26T13:40:00.000Z-Can_be_wrong_assumption"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd> <dd>I mean on free pascal there 16 decimal (64 bits) number addition operation done in 1/16 of clock, so with 3GHz you can done 3000/16=187.5 addition operations or about the same amount multiplication operations. So If there would be such thing as four 32 bit (8 decimal digits = 32 bits) floating point scalars additions or multiplications in one cycle, then there wouldn't be needed 3D graphics accelerators. My suggestion is that 287 and 387 and 8087 chips are not coprocessors, but instructions ROM's (like only readable nand flash memory on SD 16 GB memory card).</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PrefetchW" data-mw-thread-id="h-PrefetchW-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PrefetchW-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z"></span>PrefetchW<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PrefetchW-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: PrefetchW"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-38.97.97.99-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z-PrefetchW"></span>I was directed here by the Broadwell article that says the Broadwell processor will support prefetchw. Any info on this here? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/38.97.97.99" title="Special:Contributions/38.97.97.99">38.97.97.99</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:38.97.97.99" title="User talk:38.97.97.99">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-38.97.97.99-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z-PrefetchW" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-38.97.97.99-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z-PrefetchW"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-38.97.97.99-2014-04-17T18:45:00.000Z-PrefetchW"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="4_of_6_external_links_are_dead" data-mw-thread-id="h-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span>4 of 6 external links are dead<span data-mw-comment-end="h-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: 4 of 6 external links are dead"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead"></span>These external links do not link to a specific page: 2 - AMD 3DNow Instruction Porting Guide (PDF) 3 - 3DNow Technology Manual 4 - AMD Extensions to the 3DNow and MMX Instruction Sets Manual 6 - AMD Geode LX Processors Data Book <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cor_Koomen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cor Koomen (page does not exist)">Cor Koomen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cor_Koomen" title="User talk:Cor Koomen">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cor_Koomen" title="Special:Contributions/Cor Koomen">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 13 August 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z-4_of_6_external_links_are_dead"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Hello there! Have you tried to rescue them using the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://archive.org/web/">Wayback Machine</a>? — <a href="/wiki/User:Dsimic" title="User:Dsimic">Dsimic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dsimic#nobold" title="User talk:Dsimic">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dsimic" title="Special:Contributions/Dsimic">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 16 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-13T13:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z"></span>Hi, thanks for the comment. I just tried. Do you think this will do for the fifth external link? <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://support.amd.com/TechDocs/33234H_LX_databook.pdf">new link</a>. — <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cor_Koomen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cor Koomen (page does not exist)">Cor Koomen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cor_Koomen" title="User talk:Cor Koomen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z-Dsimic-2014-08-16T03:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dsimic-2014-08-20T08:48:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately, Wayback Machine doesn't have that page archived. — <a href="/wiki/User:Dsimic" title="User:Dsimic">Dsimic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dsimic#nobold" title="User talk:Dsimic">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dsimic" title="Special:Contributions/Dsimic">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:3DNow!#c-Dsimic-2014-08-20T08:48:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dsimic-2014-08-20T08:48:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dsimic-2014-08-20T08:48:00.000Z-Cor_Koomen-2014-08-17T10:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2016-09-29T22:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2016-09-29T22:27:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2016-09-29T22:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:3DNow!&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2016-09-29T22:27:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified 2 external links on <a href="/wiki/3DNow!" title="3DNow!">3DNow!</a>. 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