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data-mw-thread-id="h-Untitled-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Untitled-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Untitled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Untitled-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Untitled"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Untitled-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled","timestamp":"2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Untitled-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled"],"text":"Untitled","linkableTitle":"Untitled"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>As the Derwent enters the River Ouse above the <a href="/wiki/Trent_Falls" title="Trent Falls">Trent Falls</a> it empties into the Ouse as this does not become the <a href="/wiki/Humber" title="Humber">Humber</a> until after the falls. It is the Hertford River which rises near Filey, not the Derwent. The Hertford is a tributary of the Derwent.(See British Ordnance Survey Maps.)<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-15T18:46:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>I am researching this article at the moment. Does anyone have good images, particularly of Barmby Barrage?--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-16T19:12:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>There is more to follow. I am currently trying to locate historical images.<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-01-22T16:45:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>The natural history section is being used inappropriately by hoaxers, niether names mentioned have any online references. The spelling and punctuation suggest immature users, as do the edits. If anyone can verify the statements, please do. <i>According to many historians, Helwath Beck, a tributary from Jugger Howe Beck, was first descovered by english conservationist and doctor, Dr Kyle Simpson<sup class="noprint Inline-Template Template-Fact" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources. (April 2007)">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup>.</i>--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-04-24T07:49:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."],"text":"Infobox image.","linkableTitle":"Infobox image."}--><h2 id="Infobox_image." data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Infobox image.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Infobox image."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","timestamp":"2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Infobox_image.-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."],"text":"Infobox image.","linkableTitle":"Infobox image."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span>The image of the Derwent catchment area has "jumped out" of the infobox. Can anyone fix this,please?--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Do not see the problem. Is it browser specific? <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_D" title="User:Keith D">Keith D</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z","author":"Keith D","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_D-2007-03-06T12:02:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-06T11:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span>Possibly, I'm on IE7. Does anyone else see a problem, or have I got "gremlins"!!!?--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z"></span>I am using IE6 at the moment, will look later at Firefox when I get home to see if there is a problem there. <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_D" title="User:Keith D">Keith D</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z","author":"Keith D","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-08T13:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z"></span>Just checked and no problem with Firefox 1.5.0.10 <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_D" title="User:Keith D">Keith D</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z","author":"Keith D","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_D-2007-03-08T18:56:00.000Z-Keith_D-2007-03-08T13:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span>Does the problem persist? I was making some minor adjustments to the subtemplate that handles map display in the Geobox, you might've displayed the page at a moment I saved a buggy version. But it should be OK now in, tested in Opera 9, Firefox 2.0.something (both Win XP and Ubuntu) and IE-that-comes-with-XP. – <a href="/wiki/User:Caroig" title="User:Caroig">Caroig</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Caroig","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Caroig-2007-03-08T21:42:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span>The map image is now fixed.It was still causing a problem at 08-00GMT but has now "jumped back".I also emptied my cache. Thanks everyone.--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image.","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2007-03-09T13:56:00.000Z-Infobox_image."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Route_diagrams\/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams\/maps"],"text":"Route diagrams\/maps","linkableTitle":"Route diagrams\/maps"}--><h2 id="Route_diagrams/maps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Route_diagrams/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z"><span id="Route_diagrams.2Fmaps"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Route_diagrams/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z"></span>Route diagrams/maps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Route_diagrams/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Route diagrams/maps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Route_diagrams\/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams\/maps"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams\/maps","timestamp":"2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Route_diagrams\/maps-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams\/maps"],"text":"Route diagrams\/maps","linkableTitle":"Route diagrams\/maps"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams/maps"></span>I have added a river features/route map to the Barmby section. Others to come later if they are OK--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harkey_Lodger" title="User talk:Harkey Lodger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams/maps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams/maps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams\/maps","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:08:00.000Z-Route_diagrams/maps"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"],"text":"Restructuring","linkableTitle":"Restructuring"}--><h2 id="Restructuring" data-mw-thread-id="h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Restructuring<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Restructuring"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Restructuring-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"],"text":"Restructuring","linkableTitle":"Restructuring"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"></span>As the guidelines <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_rivers" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about rivers">Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about rivers</a> suggest starting lists etc. starting at the mouth, I am considering restructuring this article to have the text structured that way too. Any comments?--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harkey_Lodger" title="User talk:Harkey Lodger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring","replies":["c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z-Restructuring"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"></span>It's not working well. Starting at the mouth for a description of the course makes for difficult reading.Back to the drawing board, I guess.--<a href="/wiki/User:Harkey_Lodger" title="User:Harkey Lodger">Harkey Lodger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harkey_Lodger" title="User talk:Harkey Lodger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z","author":"Harkey Lodger","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-24T16:06:00.000Z-Harkey_Lodger-2008-03-12T18:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"],"text":"Assessment comment","linkableTitle":"Assessment comment"}--><h2 id="Assessment_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z"></span>Assessment comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Assessment comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment","timestamp":"2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Assessment_comment-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"],"text":"Assessment comment","linkableTitle":"Assessment comment"}--></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"></span> The comment(s) below were originally left at <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire/Comments&redirect=no">Talk:River Derwent, Yorkshire/Comments</a></span>, and are posted here for posterity. Following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DCS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DCS">several discussions in past years</a>, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.</p><table style="width:100%; background-color:#eaf8f4; border-left:3px solid #008560;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2">. <ol><li>Requires inline references adding using one of <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite">Cite</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> templates</li> <li>Copy-edit for consistency</li></ol> <p>May be able to look at GA assessment when done </p> <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_D" title="User:Keith D">Keith D</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Keith D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_D-2007-08-09T09:47:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"></span></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Last edited at 09:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 04:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"],"text":"Pronunciation","linkableTitle":"Pronunciation"}--><h2 id="Pronunciation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z"></span>Pronunciation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Pronunciation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation","timestamp":"2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pronunciation-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"],"text":"Pronunciation","linkableTitle":"Pronunciation"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"></span>Is this river's name pronounced "Derwent" or "Darwent"? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.145.172.118" title="Special:Contributions/109.145.172.118">109.145.172.118</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:109.145.172.118" title="User talk:109.145.172.118">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:River_Derwent,_Yorkshire#c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z","author":"109.145.172.118","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-109.145.172.118-2019-01-25T23:03:00.000Z-Pronunciation"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐f7b5ccf54‐jtj4g Cached time: 20241125152540 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.022 seconds CPU time usage: 0.227 seconds Real time usage: 0.314 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 558/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 23988/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 1012/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 8/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 20071/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.137/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2630900/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 246.535 1 -total 72.16% 177.905 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 34.75% 85.664 1 Template:WikiProject_Rivers 18.18% 44.822 1 Template:Fact 14.78% 36.431 1 Template:Fix 9.75% 24.046 2 Template:Category_handler 5.47% 13.488 1 Template:WikiProject_Yorkshire 5.14% 12.679 1 Template:Substituted_comment 4.32% 10.662 2 Template:WW_template 3.03% 7.477 2 Template:Tmbox --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:8938881-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125152540 and revision id 1199260502. 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