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margin: 0 5px 0 0;width:75px"> <tr> <td> <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Scotland"><img alt="Medieval Scotland" src="/photo.php/thumb/b/b6/Scotland_-_Medieval_Profiles_Team.jpg/70px-Scotland_-_Medieval_Profiles_Team.jpg" width="70" height="75" border="0" class="scale-with-grid"/></a> </td></tr> </table></td><td valign="center">Unknown Moray was an inhabitant of Medieval Scotland.<br/>Join: <a href="/wiki/Project:Scotland" title="Project:Scotland">Scotland Project</a><br/>Discuss: <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/tag/Scotland" class="external text" title="https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/tag/Scotland" rel="nofollow"><span class="TAG">Scotland</span></a></td></tr></table></div> <table id="toc" class="toc" summary="Contents"><tr><td><div id="toctitle"><h2>Contents</h2></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Biography"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Biography</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Children_of_Unknown_Moray_and_William_FitzDuncan"><span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Children of Unknown Moray and William FitzDuncan</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Research_Notes"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Research Notes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Sources"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Sources</span></a></li> </ul> </td></tr></table><script type="text/javascript">if(window.showTocToggle){var tocShowText="show";var tocHideText="hide";showTocToggle();}</script> <a name="Biography"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Biography </span></h2> <p><strong class="selflink">Unknown Moray</strong> was born the daughter of <a href="/wiki/Moray-155" title="Moray-155">Unknown Moray</a>. <sup id="_ref-Ross_0" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Ross" title="">[1]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-Cawley_0" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Cawley" title="">[2]</a></sup> </p><p>She was the likely wife or mistress of <a href="/wiki/Dunkeld-65" title="Dunkeld-65">William FitzDuncan Dunkeld</a> <sup id="_ref-Cawley_1" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Cawley" title="">[2]</a></sup> </p> <a name="Children_of_Unknown_Moray_and_William_FitzDuncan"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> Children of Unknown Moray and William FitzDuncan </span></h3> <ul><li> <a href="/wiki/MacWilliams-10" title="MacWilliams-10">Gospatric MacWilliams</a> <sup id="_ref-Richardson_0" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Richardson" title="">[3]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-Cawley_2" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Cawley" title="">[2]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-Duncan_0" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Duncan" title="">[4]</a></sup> </li><li> <a href="/wiki/MacWilliam-8" title="MacWilliam-8">Donald Bane MacWilliam</a> <sup id="_ref-Richardson_1" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Richardson" title="">[3]</a></sup><sup id="_ref-Cawley_3" class="reference"><a href="#_note-Cawley" title="">[2]</a></sup> </li></ul> <a name="Research_Notes"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Research Notes </span></h2> <ol><li> The cited sources do not adequately support <a href="/wiki/Moray-155" title="Moray-155">Unknown Moray</a> as the spouse of <a href="/wiki/Dunkeld-80" title="Dunkeld-80">Æthelred (Edelret mac Maíl Coluim) Dunkeld</a>, including her children, <a href="/wiki/Moray-153" title="Moray-153"> Angus (Oenghus mac inghine Lulaich) Moray</a> and <strong class="selflink">Unknown Moray</strong>; all relationships have been removed. <a href="/wiki/Perkins-11750" title="Perkins-11750">Perkins-11750</a> 17:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC) </li><li> Alison Weir, without confirming sources, asserts parentage and a marriage, “Daughter (name not known) She married Aedh, Mormaer of Moray, and had issue: Gruaidh; she married William, Lord of Egremont…” <sup id="_ref-0" class="reference"><a href="#_note-0" title="">[5]</a></sup> </li><li> No reliable pre-1500 source was located for the first name, "Gruaidh." It is found only on the secondary source, "Weir, Alison. Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy. London: Vintage (1989), p. 183-184." Change to first name to "unknown"? </li><li> With no objections from PM or G2G, her first name is changed to "Unknown." </li></ol> <a name="Sources"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Sources </span></h2> <ol class="references"><li id="_note-Ross"><a href="#_ref-Ross_0" title="">↑</a> Ross, Alasdair. <i>The Kings of Alba: c.1000 - c.1130.</i> Edinburgh: Birlinn Ltd (2011), pps. 182-184, citing, “Lulach was married and had at least two children, even if we do not know the name of his wife. One of these children was Máel Snechta mac Lulaich, the other an unnamed daughter whose son Oengus was killed at Stracathro in 1130." <a href="https://a.co/1IDp9vf" class="external free" title="https://a.co/1IDp9vf" rel="nofollow">https://a.co/1IDp9vf</a> </li> <li id="_note-Cawley">↑ <sup><a href="#_ref-Cawley_0" title="">2.0</a></sup> <sup><a href="#_ref-Cawley_1" title="">2.1</a></sup> <sup><a href="#_ref-Cawley_2" title="">2.2</a></sup> <sup><a href="#_ref-Cawley_3" title="">2.3</a></sup> Cawley, Charles <i>Medieval Lands: a Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families.</i> Hereford, UK: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (2006), citing, “The name of Lulach’s wife is not known. Lulach & his wife had two children: (a) MAELSNECHTAI (-1085)… (b) daughter. Her parentage is confirmed by the Annals of Ulster which record the death in 1130 of ‘Angus son of the daughter of Lulach’ in a battle ‘between the men of Scotland and the men of Moray’ The name of her husband is not known. m ---. One child: (1) ANGUS (-killed in battle Strickathrow 1130), <a href="https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc100141792" class="external text" title="https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc100141792" rel="nofollow">chap. 6.A.2.b.)I.) LULACH</a>.</li> <li id="_note-Richardson">↑ <sup><a href="#_ref-Richardson_0" title="">3.0</a></sup> <sup><a href="#_ref-Richardson_1" title="">3.1</a></sup> Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, pps. 213-214 HARINGTON 3. </li> <li id="_note-Duncan"><a href="#_ref-Duncan_0" title="">↑</a> Duncan, A. A. M. <i>Duncan II</i> Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. United Kingdom: Oxford University Press (2004), citing, “William had two sons, a Gospatric who is once mentioned and may have been a child of an earlier marriage, and William, 'the boy of Egremont', who succeeded to his father's English lands and died childless in or soon after 1163, so that the inheritance passed to his three sisters. William fitz Duncan made no known claim to the throne of Scotland, nor did his lawful heirs in 1291.” <a href="https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/8210" class="external text" title="https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/8210" rel="nofollow">ODNB</a>.</li> <li id="_note-0"><a href="#_ref-0" title="">↑</a> Weir, Alison. Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy. 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It means she had to have married her first cousin, a marriage normally requiring Papal or similar consent and which because of its significance would have been bound to have received contemporary comment. The absence of such implies to me that the father given has to be incorrect </div>  <div class="comment-info small"> <a href="#comment_7082870">posted</a> <time class="timeago" datetime="2023-01-28T17:08:07Z">Jan 28, 2023</time> by <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Macdonald-5190" title="Macdonald-5190">John Macdonald</a> </div> </div> <div id="comment_6949753" class="comment comment-depth-0 " data-comment-id="6949753" data-reply-to="0" data-depth="0">  <div class="comment-header"> <img src="/photo.php/thumb/b/be/Perkins-11750-1.jpg/75px-Perkins-11750-1.jpg" class="commenter-image" ALT="Perkins-11750"> <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Perkins-11750" title="Perkins-11750">Clyde Perkins</a> </div> <div class="comment-body"> No reliable pre-1500 source was located for the first name, "Gruaidh." It is found only on the secondary source, "Weir, Alison. Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy. London: Vintage (1989), p. 183-184." Change to first name to "Unknown"? </div>  <div class="comment-info small"> <a href="#comment_6949753">posted</a> <time class="timeago" datetime="2022-12-06T00:21:39Z">Dec 06, 2022</time> by <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Perkins-11750" title="Perkins-11750">Clyde Perkins</a> </div> </div> <div id="comment_6950904" class="comment comment-depth-1 comment-reply " data-comment-id="6950904" data-reply-to="6949753" data-depth="1">  <div class="comment-header"> <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Penman-567" title="Penman-567">Elizabeth (Penman) Russon</a> </div> <div class="comment-body"> Hi Clyde,<p>I just corresponded with the manager of this profile. He said he is no longer active and has no knowledge of this person. </p> </div>  <div class="comment-info small"> <a href="#comment_6950904">posted</a> <time class="timeago" datetime="2022-12-06T10:37:10Z">Dec 06, 2022</time> by <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Penman-567" title="Penman-567">Elizabeth (Penman) Russon</a> </div> </div> <button id="showArchivedButton" class="small comment-action" data-action="showArchived" data-page-id="3265815">View Archived Comments</button> </div> </div> </div> <script src="/skins/wikitree/comment.js.pagespeed.jm.tfE5YW9pu6.js"></script>  <div class="sixteen columns"> </div> <div class="sixteen columns"> <p> This week's featured connections gave <a href="https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1854586/play-this-weeks-famous-speeches-connection-checkers-game" title="Click here for the Famous Speeches Connection Checkers game">Famous Speeches</a>: Unknown is 25 degrees from Abraham Lincoln, 24 degrees from Winston Churchill, 30 degrees from Charles de Gaulle, 24 degrees from Vida Goldstein, 22 degrees from Patrick Henry, 26 degrees from John Kennedy, 28 degrees from Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt Nez Perce, 27 degrees from Louis Riel, 24 degrees from Eleanor Roosevelt, 32 degrees from Sojourner Truth, 28 degrees from Richard von Weizsäcker and 23 degrees from William Wilberforce on our <a href="/wiki/Help:Collaborative_Family_Tree" title="Here is more about the single family tree concept and how it works">single family tree</a>. <a href="/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin" title="Login or register for free">Login</a> to see how you relate to 33 million family members. </p></div>  </div> <div class="container"> <div class="sixteen columns"> <p align="center"><a href="/indexes/person/M/">M</a>  >  <a href="/genealogy/MORAY">Moray</a>  >  Unknown Moray</p> <p>Categories: <span dir='ltr'><a href="/wiki/Category:House_of_Moray" title="Category:House of Moray">House of Moray</a></span> | <span dir='ltr'><a href="/wiki/Category:Scotland_Project_Managed_Medieval_Profiles" title="Category:Scotland Project Managed Medieval Profiles">Scotland Project Managed Medieval Profiles</a></span></p> </div> </div> <div id="footer"> <div class="container"> <div class="sixteen columns"> <p><a href="/" title="Go to the WikiTree Home Page">WIKITREE HOME</a>   |   <a href="/wiki/Help:About_WikiTree" title="About WikiTree, the Community, and our Mission">ABOUT</a>   |   <a href="/g2g/" title="Genealogist-to-Genealogist Community Forum">G2G FORUM</a>   |   <a href="/wiki/Help:How_to_Use_WikiTree" title="Help: How to use WikiTree">HELP</a>   |   <a href="/wiki/Special:SearchPerson" title="Search for a Person">SEARCH</a></p> <p>IMPORTANT PRIVACY NOTICE & DISCLAIMER: YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO USE CAUTION WHEN DISTRIBUTING PRIVATE INFORMATION. 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