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Bulgarian, unlike all other slavic languages, does not have case declension. Please, do not generalize. 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If you have an event create a {GENERIC} you're creating translation problems, yes?<br> <br> Could the macro be updated to add a m/f option, with a set default, on units that aren't one or the other?</div> <div id="sig546659" class="signature">America-- Land of the Free, home of the Brave! "And now that we've taken care of the Braves we're coming after the Free."<br> <br> "BANNED!!! What the hell do you mean BANNED? 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But I found this topic very useful and want to leave some comments, hope they will be helpful for someone else.<br> <blockquote><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131057&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b">junoslord</a> wrote:</cite> Wouldn't this be solved by just setting the character sex in the [unit] tag? </div></blockquote> That will help only if you control the dialogues of that exact unit. If you have an event that triggers arbitrary unit to say "I found a key", and you don't know the gender of the unit beforehand, that will not help.<br> <blockquote><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131057&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b">junoslord</a> wrote:</cite> If you have an event create a {GENERIC} you're creating translation problems, yes? </div></blockquote> As of Wesnoth version 1.13.6 the <code class="inline-code">[message]</code> command was extended with <code class="inline-code">male_message</code> and <code class="inline-code">female_message</code> keys, see <a href="https://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActionsWML#.5Bmessage.5D" class="postlink">https://wiki.wesnoth.org/InterfaceActio ... message.5D</a> Suppose you created a unit with <code class="inline-code">{GENERIC_UNIT}</code>. When that unit says, you could use the <code class="inline-code">male_message</code> and <code class="inline-code">female_message</code> keys and appropriate message will be choosen depending on its gender. Moreover, those gender dependent messages are very handy when you don't know what exactly unit will say the text, like in my previous example.<br> <br> <blockquote><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131057&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b">junoslord</a> wrote:</cite> Could the macro be updated to add a m/f option? </div></blockquote> Changing the core macro will break a lot of things. You could use the next code to create generic unit with predefined gender (for side 1 at x=10, y=15 coordinates): <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code>{GENERIC_UNIT 1 "Mage" 10 15} [+unit] gender=female [/unit]</code></pre></div></div> <div id="sig637824" class="signature">Author of SP scenario <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44943" class="postlink">Dragon Fight</a> and SP campaign <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=49778" class="postlink">Captured by a Nightmare</a>. <br> Created <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51087" class="postlink">The Rise of Wesnoth (alternative mechanics)</a> version of the mainline campaign.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p647764" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile647764"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=122699_1532101445.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">octalot</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">General Code Maintainer</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=122699&sr=posts&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b">816</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> July 17th, 2010, 7:40 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Austria</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content647764"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=647764&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b#p647764">Re: What you should know to make your campaign easy to translate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=647764&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=647764&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b#p647764" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122699&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">octalot</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2019-10-02T23:22:51+00:00">October 2nd, 2019, 11:22 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">If a sentence feels better in English with a name included, but would still work without the name, what's the better option?<br> <br> a) rewrite the English to avoid including a name<br> <br> b) keep the name, but add a translation hint that it's not necessary: <div class="codebox"><p>Code: <a href="#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;">Select all</a></p><pre><code># po: both speaker and $other_healer are elvish shamans # Referring to $other_healer by name isn't necessary, it feels better in English but feel free to leave it out in translation. message= _ "Both Shaman $other_healer.name and I can heal other units. However, each unit can only receive healing from one healer — even if we’re both next to a unit then that unit will still only be healed 4 hitpoints per turn." </code></pre></div> The context for this is <a class="postlink" href="https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/4418">#4418</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p647771" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile647771"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=137302&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" class="username">oooo</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=137302&sr=posts&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b">19</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 14th, 2014, 12:58 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Japan</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content647771"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=647771&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b#p647771">Re: What you should know to make your campaign easy to translate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=647771&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=647771&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b#p647771" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=137302&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" class="username">oooo</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2019-10-03T12:58:06+00:00">October 3rd, 2019, 12:58 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">a) No<br> Why should we avoid to include variable? I have never annoyed variable expansions.<br> <br> b) Yes, but...<br> IMO, the translators know what sentences are properly in their languages.<br> That is, you should tell translators your requests and recommends, but it's not a necessary comment "we have no requests."</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="action-bar bar-bottom"> <a href="./posting.php?mode=reply&t=11445&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b" class="button" title="Post a reply"> <span>Post Reply</span> <i class="icon fa-reply fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> <form method="post" action="./viewtopic.php?t=11445&start=15&sid=5cd9c70bc7e6dfd00ea83fd6cd4c330b"> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-container-left dropdown-button-control sort-tools"> <span title="Display and sorting options" class="button button-secondary 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