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The actual quote is somewhat less flattering, unfortunately. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.234.42.114" title="Special:Contributions/66.234.42.114">66.234.42.114</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:66.234.42.114&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:66.234.42.114 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White#c-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z","author":"66.234.42.114","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":["c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z","c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for noting the error. I've removed the extended quotations while expanding Sherwin-White's biography. The reader knowing little about his work would probably have come away from the older version of the article thinking of him as some sort of Christian apologist, when the New Testament only accounted for a small portion of his scholarly output and his views on its historicity were more nuanced than the selected quotations could show. If <i>Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament</i> has been popular with conservative Christian authors, that may be worth noting; <a href="/wiki/Josh_McDowell" title="Josh McDowell">Josh McDowell</a> seems from his article to be quite a prolific figure.</dd> <dd>I shall look up the <i>JRS</i> obituary when I can and add any material of significance. <a href="/wiki/User:EALacey" class="mw-redirect" title="User:EALacey">EALacey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EALacey" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:EALacey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White#c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z","author":"EALacey","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EALacey-2008-02-11T22:01:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"></span>I found an identical misquotation at <a href="/wiki/Acts_of_the_Apostles" title="Acts of the Apostles">Acts of the Apostles</a> while adding links to this page. I fixed it, of course, but it's disturbing that people have been adding second-hand quotations of Sherwin-White while citing the original as if they'd consulted it directly. <a href="/wiki/User:EALacey" class="mw-redirect" title="User:EALacey">EALacey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EALacey" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:EALacey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White#c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z","author":"EALacey","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EALacey-2008-06-22T09:22:00.000Z-66.234.42.114-2007-11-18T14:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Giford-2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>A Sherwin-White quote is still in use at the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Historical_Reliability_of_the_Acts_of_the_Apostles&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Historical Reliability of the Acts of the Apostles (page does not exist)">Historical Reliability of the Acts of the Apostles</a> entry. Is it the same one that has been removed here, and if so could someone give the corrected version?</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Giford" title="User:Giford">Giford</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giford&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Giford (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White#c-Giford-2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Giford-2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z","author":"Giford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Giford-2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z-Untitled","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Giford-2010-08-05T12:59:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z-External_links_modified"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z-External_links_modified","timestamp":"2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-External_links_modified-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z-External_links_modified&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;External links modified&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-09-16T22:01:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified one external link on <a href="/wiki/A._N._Sherwin-White" title="A. 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Both places exist and both are in Oxfordshire, so I can't tell if the spelling or the link is incorrect. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/190.104.112.99" title="Special:Contributions/190.104.112.99">190.104.112.99</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:190.104.112.99&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:190.104.112.99 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A._N._Sherwin-White#c-190.104.112.99-20221216200600-wrong_link_to_place_of_death" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 16 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-190.104.112.99-20221216200600-wrong_link_to_place_of_death"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221216200600","author":"190.104.112.99","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-190.104.112.99-20221216200600-wrong_link_to_place_of_death","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-190.104.112.99-20221216200600-wrong_link_to_place_of_death"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐int.codfw.main‐7cc866bdbb‐mkcbk Cached time: 20241208020943 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.015 seconds CPU time usage: 0.273 seconds Real time usage: 0.362 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1356/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 43911/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 52/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 11/100 Expensive parser function count: 10/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 29766/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.173/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2785567/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 268.164 1 -total 96.68% 259.270 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 40.72% 109.194 1 Template:WikiProject_University_of_Oxford 19.15% 51.362 1 Template:WikiProject_Biography 3.89% 10.443 1 Template:WikiProject_Bible 3.40% 9.115 1 Template:Find_page_text 3.26% 8.739 1 Template:Sourcecheck 2.58% 6.921 1 Template:WikiProject_Classical_Greece_and_Rome 2.36% 6.325 2 Template:Pagetype 2.09% 5.607 1 Template:Tlx --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:9872625:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241208020943 and revision id 1197128421. 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