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Pour Iannis Roder, la multiplication des menaces terroristes à l’école est « la conséquence de l’inaction politique face à la montée de l’islamisme ».</p> <p class="author"> Par <span><a rel="author" href="/journalistes-du-point/claire-lefebvre" class="Link Link--noborder"><span>Claire Lefebvre</span></a></span></p> <time>Publié le 28/03/2024 à 17h30</time> <p class="abo" data-ifnot-premium="block"> <a class="btn" href="https://abo.lepoint.fr/?provenance=AUTOPROMO00" title="S’abonner sans engagement" data-gtm="click:abo" data-campaign="bouton_chapo_PA">S’abonner sans engagement</a> </p> </header>   <div id="article-body" class="" >    <img src="/img-l/articles/2556203.png" width="0" height="0" style="position:absolute !important; top:-50000px !important;" />  <figure id="image"> <picture> <source media="(max-width: 767px)" srcset=" https://static-images.lpnt.fr/cd-cw400/images/2024/03/28/26311405lpw-26311695-mega-une-jpg_10206162.jpg 1x, https://static-images.lpnt.fr/cd-cw809/images/2024/03/28/26311405lpw-26311695-mega-une-jpg_10206162.jpg 2x" > <source media="(min-width: 768px) and (max-width: 1183px)" srcset=" https://static-images.lpnt.fr/cd-cw602/images/2024/03/28/26311405lpw-26311695-mega-une-jpg_10206162.jpg 1x, https://static-images.lpnt.fr/cd-cw1204/images/2024/03/28/26311405lpw-26311695-mega-une-jpg_10206162.jpg 2x" > <img alt=" Menacé de mort par les islamistes, le proviseur du lycée Maurice-Ravel à Paris a démissionné. 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Mais <a class="Link" href="https://www.lepoint.fr/education/exclusif-des-etablissements-scolaires-vises-par-des-menaces-terroristes-un-college-ferme-27-03-2024-2556092_3584.php" title="" data-gtm="click:capsule" data-capsule="Lien">de nombreux lycées et collèges d'Île-de-France</a> et des Hauts-de-France ont été touchés ces derniers temps par des menaces de mort, parfois accompagnés d'une vidéo de décapitation. Et, si une surveillance policière statique a été mise en place devant les établissements concernés et si des équipes patrouillent aux alentours, l'inquiétude s'installe chez les professeurs, ainsi que parmi certains parents, qui hésitent à envoyer leurs enfants à l'école.</p><section class="mbl txtcenter"><div id="IN_CONTENT" class="txtcenter mbs slotpub"></div></section><p>Comment ne pas céder face à la menace ? 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Elle est devenue le lieu même de la menace. " <br /> <br /> "Face à cela, il faut être intransigeant, sanctionner et parler aux familles aussi, parce que, si des gamins contestent l’autorité de l’école, c’est parce qu’ils se sentent autorisés à le faire. "<br /> <br /> "on n'a pas voulu voir – ou accepter –, à savoir la progression de normes islamistes. "<br /> "La conséquence, c'est le sentiment d'impunité qui s'installe. " (j'ajoute pas seulement là) ? <br /> <br /> Je crois que tout est dit et espère qu'en reprenant les propos de l'article, je ne serais pas censuré comme bien souvent... Moi mal pensant ! <br /> cdt.</p> <button class="more">Lire plus</button> </div> <div class="commentaire_abusif" id="commentaire_abusif_13127518"></div> <button class="comment-abuse signaler">Signaler</button> </li> <li class="commentaire" data-nb-comments="2" id="div_commentaire_13126856" data-load-php='true'> <div> <strong>Papyboss</strong> <time datetime="2024-03-29T1947"> 29-03-2024 • 19h47 </time> </div> <div class="commentaire-text"> <p>Je ne vais pas m’étendre sur cette manifestation organisée par le Parti socialiste : pour moi enseignant en second cycle au lycée je trouve que c’est le comble de l’hypocrisie. Depuis de très nombreuses années le jour de la rentrée, je donne une sorte de contrat aux élèves, à tous mes en élèves. J’y explique ma pédagogie, le respect absolu de la laïcité et surtout mon obligation absolue de respecter le programme dans sa totalité donc que je tolère aucune absence lors de l’étude des fonctions du corps humain. Je suis effectivement professeur de Sciences SVT Je refuse en classe tout élève qui ne me rapporte pas ce document signé des parents. J’explique bien que c’est une sorte de contrat réciproque qui nous lie, , moi enseignant et vous, élèves, qui êtes là pour apprendre. Jusqu’à ce jour je n’ai pas eu de problèmes, deux ou trois tentatives immédiatement sanctionnées : une croix portée de façon ostentatoire, retirée ou mise sous les vêtements, autrement des foulards typiques, que j'ai fais retirer immédiatement lorsque arrive dans une classe on se découvre obligatoirement. D’une année sur l’autre les élèves le savent. J'ai eu bien sûr dès le début l'aval de mon proviseur. Pourquoi ne pas généraliser ce système de contrat et généraliser l’uniforme dans tous les établissements scolaires. J’ai enseigné 15 ans en Afrique et l’uniforme était obligatoire pour tous les élèves sans exception. Aucune fioriture n’était tolérée et pourtant une bonne partie des élèves était de confession musulmane.</p> <button class="more">Lire plus</button> </div> <div class="commentaire_abusif" id="commentaire_abusif_13126856"></div> <button class="comment-abuse signaler">Signaler</button> </li> <li class="commentaire" data-nb-comments="3" id="div_commentaire_13126715" data-load-php='true'> <div> <strong>Lou Reed</strong> <time datetime="2024-03-29T1705"> 29-03-2024 • 17h05 </time> </div> <div class="commentaire-text"> <p>Le problème du 2eme ou 3eme ou 4eme degré c’est lorsque ça peut être du premier degré. <br /> Or là, c’est tellement possible de lire une telle réaction que je n’en saisi pas l’humour. <br /> Tant que ca en diverti certains…</p> <button class="more">Lire plus</button> </div> <div class="commentaire_abusif" id="commentaire_abusif_13126715"></div> <button class="comment-abuse signaler">Signaler</button> </li> </ul> <div style="text-align:center;"> <button class="btn 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