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<table class="wikitable" style="margin-bottom: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="background: #CCC; color: #666;">submitted </td> <td style="border: 2px solid #000; font-weight: bold;">verification </td> <td style="background: #CCC; color: #666;">final decision </td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="wikitable" style="width: 100%; margin-top: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 0; vertical-align: top; width: 50px;"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Applications-system.svg/50px-Applications-system.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Applications-system.svg/75px-Applications-system.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Applications-system.svg/100px-Applications-system.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> </p> </td> <td style="border: 0;"><strong style="font-size: large;">This language has been verified as eligible.</strong><br/>The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Language_proposal_policy" title="Special:MyLanguage/Language proposal policy">language proposal policy</a>. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page. <p>Once the criteria are met, the <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/language_committee" title="Special:MyLanguage/language committee">language committee</a> can proceed with the approval. </p> <b>If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Language_committee" title="Talk:Language committee">notify the committee</a> and ask them to consider its approval.</b><p>A committee member provided the following comment:</p> <div style="margin-left: 2em; font-style: italic;">Because an <a href="https://ie.wikipedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="ie:">Interlingue Wikipedia</a> exists, this Wikisource can potentially also exist, at least in theory. Since content is being created on Multilingual Wikisource, I am therefore marking the request as "eligible". Per the <a href="#Discussion">discussion</a> below, whether or not the content will ever grow into something approvable is a separate question that we don't need to decide here and now. For LangCom: <a href="/wiki/User:StevenJ81" title="User:StevenJ81">StevenJ81</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StevenJ81" title="User talk:StevenJ81">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-StevenJ81-2018-11-28T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-28T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-28T18:10:00.000Z","author":"StevenJ81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-StevenJ81-2018-11-28T18:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <ul><li>The community needs to develop an <strong><a href="https://wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page/Interlingue" class="extiw" title="oldwikisource:Main Page/Interlingue">active test project</a></strong>; it must remain active until approval (<a class="external text" href="https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=1&amp;title=Interlingue&amp;wiki=sourceswiki">automated statistics</a>). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.</li> <li>The community needs to complete required MediaWiki <b>interface translations</b> in that language (<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Language_proposal_policy#Requisites" title="Special:MyLanguage/Language proposal policy">about localization</a>, <a href="https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:ie" class="extiw" title="translatewiki:Portal:ie">translatewiki</a>, <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/codelookup/ie" class="extiw" title="toolforge:codelookup/ie">check completion</a>).</li> <li>The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:</li></ul> <table class="wikitable" style="margin-bottom: 0; width: 100%; font-style: italic;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="width: 15%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">What </th> <th style="width: 35%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">Value </th> <th style="width: 50%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">Example / Explanation </th></tr></tbody></table> <table class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="margin-top: 0; width: 100%; margin-bottom: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3">Proposal </th></tr> <tr> <td style="width: 15%;">Language code </td> <td style="width: 35%;">ie (<a href="https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ile" class="extiw" title="iso639-3:ile">SIL</a>, <a href="https://glottolog.org/glottolog?iso=ile" class="extiw" title="glottolog:ile">Glottolog</a>) </td> <td style="width: 50%;">A valid ISO <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1" class="extiw" title="en:ISO 639-1">639-1</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-3" class="extiw" title="en:ISO 639-3">639-3</a> language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language name</td> <td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingue_language" class="extiw" title="en:Interlingue language">Interlingue</a></td> <td>Language name in English </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language name</td> <td><i>Interlingue</i></td> <td>Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language Wikidata item</td> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q35850" class="extiw" title="d:Q35850">Q35850</a> - <small>item has currently the following values:</small><div style="font-size: smaller;"> <ul><li>English label: Interlingue</li> <li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1705" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P1705">native label <small>(P1705)</small></a>: Interlingue</li> <li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P31">instance of <small>(P31)</small></a>/<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P279">subclass of <small>(P279)</small></a>: constructed language, Euroclone, international auxiliary language /</li> <li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P424" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P424">Wikimedia language code <small>(P424)</small></a>: ie</li> <li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P282" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P282">writing system <small>(P282)</small></a>: Latin script</li> <li><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1098" class="extiw" title="d:Property:P1098">number of speakers, writers, or signers <small>(P1098)</small></a>: 50±50</li></ul> </div> </td> <td>Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system#Directionality" class="extiw" title="en:Writing system">Directionality</a></td> <td>LTR</td> <td>Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? </td></tr> <tr style="display: none;"> <td>Links</td> <td></td> <td>Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents. </td></tr> <tr class="plainlinks"> <td>Site URL</td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://ie.wikisource.org">ie.wikisource.org</a></td> <td>langcode.wikiproject.org </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><ins id="Settings"></ins> </p> <table class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="margin-top: 0; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3">Settings </th></tr> <tr> <td style="width: 15%;">Project name </td> <td style="width: 35%;">Wikifonte </td> <td style="width: 50%;">"Wikisource" in your language </td></tr> <tr> <td>Project namespace</td> <td></td> <td>usually the same as the project name </td></tr> <tr> <td>Project talk namespace</td> <td></td> <td>"Wikisource talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) </td></tr> <tr> <td>Enable uploads</td> <td>no</td> <td>Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="commons:">Commons</a>.<br/><div style="font-size: 86%;">If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").<br/>Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an <a href="/wiki/EDP" class="mw-redirect" title="EDP">Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP)</a> first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:POL" class="extiw" title="commons:COM:POL">more info</a>). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.</div> </td></tr> <tr> <th colspan="3"><small>Optional settings</small> </th></tr> <tr> <td>Project logo</td> <td></td> <td>This needs to be an SVG image (<a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation" class="extiw" title="wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation">instructions for logo creation</a>). </td></tr> <tr> <td>Default project timezone</td> <td></td> <td>"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones" class="extiw" title="en:List of tz database time zones">list of valid timezones</a>) </td></tr> <tr> <td>Additional namespaces </td> <td> </td> <td>For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". </td></tr> <tr> <td>Additional settings </td> <td> </td> <td>Anything else that should be set </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 80%; display: none;" colspan="3">Once settings are finalized, a committee member will <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/91/?projects=Wiki-Setup-Create,&amp;title=Create+Wikisource+Interlingue&amp;description=The+language+committee+has+approved+the+creation+of+Wikisource+Interlingue.%0A%0A-+%2A%2ARequest+page%3A%2A%2A+https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikisource_Interlingue%0A-+%2A%2ALanguage+code%3A%2A%2A+ie%0A-+%2A%2ASite+URL%3A%2A%2A+ie.wikisource.org%0A-+%2A%2ADirectionality%3A%2A%2A+LTR%0A-+%2A%2AProject+name%3A%2A%2A+Wikifonte%0A-+%2A%2AProject+name+%28English%29%3A%2A%2A+Interlingue+Wikisource%0A-+%2A%2AProject+namespace%3A%2A%2A+%0A-+%2A%2AProject+talk+namespace%3A%2A%2A+%0A-+%2A%2AVisibility%3A%2A%2A+Public%0A%0A%0A%0A-+%2A%2AShard%3A%2A%2A+s5%0A-+%2A%2ALocal+file+uploads%3A%2A%2A+disabled%0A%0AThank+you.">submit a Phabricator task</a> requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above. </td></tr></tbody></table> <hr style="margin-bottom: 1em; height: 2px;"/> <div class="boilerplate discussion-archived mw-archivedtalk" style="background-color: #f5f3ef; overflow:auto; margin: 1em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #aaa"> <dl><dd><i>The following discussion is closed. <span style="color:#FF0000"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.</i></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;}--><h2 id="Proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z"></span>Proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Proposal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal","timestamp":"2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Proposal-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Proposal&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal"></span>This is either a request for an Interlingue (Occidental) domain on Wikisource, or for ideas. Occidental began with the publishing of a magazine called Kosmoglott in 1922, renamed Cosmoglotta in 1929. The National Library of Austria has them for most years here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0g">http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0g</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;size=45">http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;size=45</a> </p><p>The second link is Cosmoglotta B, which existed for two reasons: 1) to be a separate, cheaper publication for Occidentalists to discuss more linguistic issues while Cosmoglotta A was more general literature and news, 2) as the only Cosmoglotta published during WWII by the Occidentalists in Switzerland. So from 1940 to 1945 it was the only Cosmoglotta published. </p><p>There are about 100 pages per year, 3000~3500 pages in total. Many of them are pretty close to illegible for a machine which is why I would like to manually add them here. One example of that: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;datum=1945&amp;page=61&amp;size=45">http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;datum=1945&amp;page=61&amp;size=45</a> (This was the issue right after WWII ended in Europe) </p><p>One other thing: Occidental was kind of gradually worked into its current shape over a period of 25 years, reaching its current form in 1947. It has not changed significantly but enough that I would like to type up both an as-is version as well as a modernized one. An example of the differences between 1935 and now: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;datum=1935&amp;page=1&amp;size=45">http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno-plus?aid=e0m&amp;datum=1935&amp;page=1&amp;size=45</a> &lt;-- Some examples of differences are látere instead of latere, tipografat instead of typografat, numeró instead of numero, nothing too big but enough that it would be nice to have the modernized version as well so that modern readers of the magazine won't get confused. </p><p>Now, as to why I'm not necessarily gung-ho for this request but am making it anyway: if a single magazine, even a large one, isn't enough to justify a separate Wikisource I would be fine with adding it somewhere else. <b>In fact, I would prefer that.</b> Cosmoglotta also includes a lot of references to other constructed languages, so if I could simply upload it as a multilingual magazine then that would be even better. This is an interesting case where I have a lot of material to upload but don't necessarily think it justifies a separate Wikisource. But if the community thinks it should go on its own Wikisource then it can be put there. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mithridates" title="User talk:Mithridates">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:28, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z","author":"Mithridates","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mithridates-2018-11-21T01:28:00.000Z-Proposal"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Discussion&quot;}--><h2 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z","timestamp":"2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Discussion-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Discussion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a>:</span> Hi. </p> <ul><li>In principle, this project could be eligible. In any case, the place to start would not be with an independent project, but rather by putting your content on <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/mul:Multilingual_Wikisource" class="extiw" title="s:mul:Multilingual Wikisource">Multilingual Wikisource</a>. Go to <a href="https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium" class="extiw" title="oldwikisource:Wikisource:Scriptorium">Wikisource:Scriptorium</a>, where you will find resources to help you get started. (Calling @<a href="/wiki/User:Ooswesthoesbes" title="User:Ooswesthoesbes">OWTB</a> for information/assistance.) <dl><dd><i>Important: Please make sure that the magazines you wish to incorporate are in the public domain! If they are under copyright, they will be deleted.</i></dd></dl></li> <li>As a practical matter, any content in Interlingue/Occidental can stay on Multilingual Wikisource "forever" (whatever that means). If over time you have incorporated enough content, you can have it spun off into an independent subdomain. But there's no hurry, and especially with Wikisource material, we are perfectly happy to let things stay on Multilingual Wikisource indefinitely if contributors prefer. <a href="/wiki/User:StevenJ81" title="User:StevenJ81">StevenJ81</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StevenJ81" title="User talk:StevenJ81">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 21 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","author":"StevenJ81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":["c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span>Wonderful, that is exactly what I was looking for. As a mostly-Occidental-yet-still-multilingual magazine I suppose it will fit in there nicely and no need to create/manage Wikisource in a new language. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mithridates" title="User talk:Mithridates">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 22 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z","author":"Mithridates","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z","c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a>: If you need any help, please let me know. Make sure that any Interlingue pages you create on Wikisource are either directly in the category "Interlingue" or in a subcategory of that category. There are a lot of different works in different languages there, so pages can easily get lost. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ooswesthoesbes" title="User:Ooswesthoesbes">OosWesThoesBes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooswesthoesbes" title="User talk:Ooswesthoesbes">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 22 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z","author":"Ooswesthoesbes","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooswesthoesbes-2018-11-22T10:06:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a>:</span> I can help too, just ask. I see that you already started (<a href="https://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Interlingue" class="extiw" title="oldwikisource:Category:Interlingue">oldwikisource:Category:Interlingue</a>) very good. But first of all, my main concern is about copyright, is there any document under public domain? (or at least free licence), it would be a shame to have transcription deleted because of a juridical problem. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">V<span style="font-size:75%">IGNERON</span></a> * <a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><sup>discut.</sup></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:56, 29 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z","author":"VIGNERON","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2018-11-29T10:56:00.000Z-Mithridates-2018-11-22T02:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure if the entire request is having typos or not, there's <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/mul:Main_Page/Interlingua" class="extiw" title="s:mul:Main Page/Interlingua">an Interlingu<b>a</b> (ia) test edition</a>, but why the entire request is pointing to Interlingu<b>e</b> (ie)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liuxinyu970226" title="User talk:Liuxinyu970226">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z","author":"Liuxinyu970226","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z","c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z-StevenJ81-2018-11-21T15:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"></span>Two separate conlangs. <a href="/wiki/User:StevenJ81" title="User:StevenJ81">StevenJ81</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StevenJ81" title="User talk:StevenJ81">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z","author":"StevenJ81","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StevenJ81-2018-11-22T14:18:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iuxinyu970226&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iuxinyu970226 (page does not exist)">Iuxinyu970226</a>:</span> And just to complicate things even more, if you see a reference to Interlingua from the 1920s or 30s it's actually about the original Interlingua now known as Latine sine flexione. That movement eventually fell apart to the point that IALA's language was free to pick up the name. <a href="/wiki/User:Mithridates" title="User:Mithridates">Mithridates</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mithridates" title="User talk:Mithridates">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Interlingue#c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z","author":"Mithridates","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mithridates-2018-11-30T08:53:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2018-11-22T12:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.</i></dd></dl></div> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐int.codfw.main‐849f99967d‐jjrbx Cached time: 20241123094258 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.188 seconds Real time usage: 0.243 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1357/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 21754/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 5464/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 2/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 739/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.048/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1677629/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 1/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 196.099 1 -total 84.94% 166.561 1 Template:New_wiki_request 50.85% 99.726 1 Template:New_wiki_request/WD 27.39% 53.719 1 Template:Process_header 16.75% 32.837 7 Template:Label 13.92% 27.291 6 Template:Property 10.65% 20.886 3 Template:Dir 8.88% 17.411 7 Template:New_wiki_request/translation 8.75% 17.166 3 Template:CURRENTCONTENTLANGUAGE 7.09% 13.896 3 Template:Ping --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key metawiki:pcache:idhash:10723843-0!canonical and timestamp 20241123094258 and revision id 21520479. 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