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class="wpb-nested-task-force">: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Science_fiction_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Science fiction task force">Sci-fi</a></span> <span class="wpb-header-bubbles import-mid">Mid‑importance</span></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-text wpb-main" colspan="2"><table><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Book_collection.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Book_collection.jpg/80px-Book_collection.jpg" decoding="async" width="80" height="64" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Book_collection.jpg/120px-Book_collection.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Book_collection.jpg/160px-Book_collection.jpg 2x" data-file-width="299" data-file-height="238"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><style 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href="/wiki/Novella" title="Novella">novellas</a>, <a href="/wiki/Novella" title="Novella">novelettes</a> and <a href="/wiki/Short_story" title="Short story">short stories</a> on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels">general Project discussion</a></b> to talk over new ideas and suggestions.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Novels</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Novels</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">novel articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-mid"><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_novel_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance novel articles">Mid</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>Mid-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Assessment">project's importance 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manga">Anime and manga portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga">WikiProject Anime and manga</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Anime" title="Anime">anime</a>, <a href="/wiki/Manga" title="Manga">manga</a>, and related topics on Wikipedia. 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Can someone who really know German help to clarify this? </p> <hr/> <p>From a German user: This is because all these terms were created by germanophile Japanese who have only rudimentary knowledge of the language. "Herdensagen" = "Heldensagen", considering the L/R problem of East Asians, because both are alveolar sounds. "Derdensagen" cannot be explained by me and makes no sense, it does not exist. "Kosmosinset" is a typo for sure, maybe someone mistook a printed "l" for a "t", but "Inset" is not a German word. Regards, 42317 P.S.: What is a userpage good for if there's no "contact"/"email me" button? I'm a wikinoob, so I don't know such stuff. Make noobs' lives easier! </p> <hr/> <p>I am changing the <b>Alternative titles</b> section to clean up the redundancies in German and Japanese. If you want to change it to something else, please explain why you think you have more accurate information. I am interested to know. Thank you. ^_^ </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Felix_Wan" title="User:Felix Wan">Felix Wan</a> 22:42, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC) </p><p><br/> </p><p>First of all,I definitly agree with that rendering. The original VHS and Laserdisc releases spelled it Herdensagen rather than Heldensagen but I believe this is an obvious Japanese L/R issue. The more rescent DVD release says Heldensagen. Another I noticed is the article refers to the series as a TV show. It was not. The main series was an OVA (original video animation) released in 26 volumes (each normally containing 4 25 minute episodes,with volume 7 being only two,and volume 26 having a double length episode). The Gaiden series was released in basically the same way though offhand I don't know how many tapes/discs it was. I am pretty sure it was sold primarily as a mail order thing. My Conquest Is The Sea Of Stars and Overture To A New War I believe were both theatrical films,but I could be wrong, and Golden Wings was a TV movie. The first 'season' being volumes 1-7 were aired on Japanese TV after their initial VHS/LD release, but no other episodes were (probably because the violence content seems to rise from season 2 on). The entire main OVA series was however aired on TV in Taiwan I think (though it may have been Hong Kong), and the DVD release contains a Chinese dub (not sure offhand if it is Cantonese or Mandarin,I can go check). If I get a chance i'll update the article,but if someone else beats me to it more power to them =) </p><p>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MMAACKS&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MMAACKS (page does not exist)">MMAACKS</a> 23:34, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC) </p><p>As a german speaker I have to add a grammatically correct title would be "Heldensagen von der Kosmosinsel". Although "Kosmosinsel" would be a <a href="/wiki/Compound_(linguistics)" title="Compound (linguistics)">Compound_(linguistics)</a> of "Kosmos" and "Insel". I presume that Kosmosinsel was choosen as translation for galaxy "Galaxie" an island in cosmos. Like an "Atlantikinsel" is an island in the Atlantic. "vom" is short for "von dem". But since "Kosmos" is combined with "Insel" the last word is feminine and the article has to be "der" (don't confuse with 1. case feminine "die"). It could be indefinte ("einer") the story is placed in the Milky Way galaxy so a definite ("der") article is better. If "Kosmosinsel" is replaced it could be "Heldensagen aus der Galaxie", still uncommon, or "Galaktische Heldensagen". <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/156.67.137.99" title="Special:Contributions/156.67.137.99">156.67.137.99</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:156.67.137.99&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:156.67.137.99 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-156.67.137.99-2017-11-19T22:17:00.000Z-Name_of_LoGH_in_German" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-156.67.137.99-2017-11-19T22:17:00.000Z-Name_of_LoGH_in_German"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-156.67.137.99-2017-11-19T22:17:00.000Z-Name_of_LoGH_in_German"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Mostly correct it is but you didnt noticed the singular or else it should spell Legend(s) in english. Well, it is not easy to get the right grammer because its japanese title and therefore the context is important. Well, that can be annother trick to do, because there is no pluralform in japanese. Someone could say it should be plural because of the different incidents but i think the main story, the legend, is about Lohengramm become the emporer of the galatic. Then it is singular and thats why the german title should be written "Die Galaktische Heldensage" or "Die Heldensage aus der Galaxie" or my favorite "Die Legende der galaktischen Helden" (the most accurate form of translation). To forget the article of a noun is a german misbehavior. There are some constellations in the german language where is no need for an articel strictly. But its sounds like a short version of the german language, like it is broken then. In german every noun has its article. I would be glad if that would be not forgotten but well that is annother issue. [21.11.2017 CEST]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?" data-mw-thread-id="h-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"><span id="so.2C_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span>so, this is the next page to have a makeover hmmm?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: so, this is the next page to have a makeover hmmm?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?"></span>Well, im stumped on this one, heard of it, but never watched it. </p><p>Dunno how I can help, well i guess i'll just proof read it or something. </p><p>I'll leave the more details stuff to the dedicated fans. ;) </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Onizuka-gto" title="User:Onizuka-gto">Onizuka-gto</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z-so,_this_is_the_next_page_to_have_a_makeover_hmmm?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-16T23:38:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span>The problem with the article is that is bascially just lists. And what compunds it is that it has never been released in English speaking countries, so the ratio of material in Japanese to English is much higher then with most other shows. For starters it would be nice to see if we can translate anything from other languages versions into that article, then we need to add sections on plot, characters, themes and influences.--<a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><sup style="color:green;">Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Piotrus-2006-04-16T23:38:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 16 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-16T23:38:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2006-04-16T23:38:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span>I think what we need to do is split the article. Into <i>many</i> pieces. We need a characters article, a media article and probably a timeline article too. Getting the massive lists out of the article will make things a lot more manageable. I'll get started on one of these and hopefully somebody else will continue the trend. - <a href="/wiki/User:Phorque" title="User:Phorque">Phorque</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phorque" title="User talk:Phorque">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Phorque" title="Special:Contributions/Phorque">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z-Onizuka-gto-2006-04-16T23:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-17T16:21:00.000Z-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z"></span>Once we have subarticles, <a href="/wiki/Category:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes" title="Category:Legend of the Galactic Heroes">Category:Legend of the Galactic Heroes</a> will be only logical...--<a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><sup style="color:green;">Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Piotrus-2006-04-17T16:21:00.000Z-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-17T16:21:00.000Z-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2006-04-17T16:21:00.000Z-Phorque-2006-04-17T14:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"><span id="Seiy.C5.AB_vs._Voice_actor"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Seiyū vs. Voice actor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Seiyū vs. Voice actor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor"></span>For article section titles, I've replaced all use of "seiyū" with "voice actors" because the latter term is more widely known. I then when on and reworded the main voice actor section and used "voice actor" with a brief explanation of seiyū in the first instance and then use seiyū through the rest of the section. </p><p>I'm not sure how touchy some people are about the use of seiyū vs. voice actor, but I figured I should give an explanation for my changes. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z-Seiyū_vs._Voice_actor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"></span>The generally accepted format for Japan-related articles is to use "voice actor" for non-Japanese voice actors, and "<a href="/wiki/Seiy%C5%AB" class="mw-redirect" title="Seiyū">seiyū</a>" for Japanese voice actors. This will likely cause someone to revert what you did. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe">日本穣 Nihonjoe</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T15:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z"></span>I didn't seen any such "accepted format" in the anime articles I've skimmed through when I was doing the genre categorizing. Both terms are used interchangeably. There is also nothing about which term to use in either <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS-JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS-JA">WP:MOS-JA</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Anime" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Anime">WP:Anime</a>. The closest I can come to is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles#Think_of_the_reader" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles">Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Think of the reader</a> which advices to avoid using jargon, but when used, should be accompanied by a basic definition. The latter isn't something that is normally done in a heading. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2006-04-18T20:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nandesuka-2006-04-18T22:19:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia is a general-purpose encyclopedia. As such, we should avoid jargon when it is not strictly necessary for precision. "Voice actor" is a perfectly well understood, accurate, and descriptive term, and is preferable to "seiyū". <a href="/wiki/User:Nandesuka" title="User:Nandesuka">Nandesuka</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Nandesuka-2006-04-18T22:19:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nandesuka-2006-04-18T22:19:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nandesuka-2006-04-18T22:19:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:26:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"></span>Here is something else I found, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_writing_better_articles#Use_other_languages_sparingly" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles">Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Use other languages sparingly</a>. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:26:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:26:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:26:00.000Z-TheFarix-2006-04-18T22:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Infobox_Conflict?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox_Conflict?-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z"><span id="Infobox_Conflict.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox_Conflict?-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z"></span>Infobox Conflict?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox_Conflict?-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Infobox Conflict?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Infobox_Conflict?"></span>I was <i>trying</i> to add more info to the infobox when I noticed that some of the info in the infobox seemed to conflict with the info in the <b>Anime</b> section of the article. I was wondering if anyone knew which was correct? I really couldn't find much. </p> <dl><dd>Check the information against the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1786">ANN Encyclopedia</a>. However, if you can get the information from the official site, that would be better. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Infobox_Conflict?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Infobox_Conflict?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Infobox_Conflict?"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fan_sites" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fan_sites-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fan_sites-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"></span>Fan sites<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fan_sites-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Fan sites"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z-Fan_sites"></span>As per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a> there is a need to decide on one major fansite and prune the others. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Squilibob&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Squilibob (page does not exist)">Squilibob</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z-Fan_sites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 20 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z-Fan_sites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z-Fan_sites"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"></span>Which specific part of WP:EL you're refering to?--<a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><sup style="color:green;">Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z-Squilibob-2006-04-20T23:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T01:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z"></span>Some of those links are incorrectly labeled as fansites when they are actually reviews from reputable online anime sites. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T01:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T01:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T01:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2006-04-20T23:34:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd>P.S. The forum link can be talkin off without problems as it is Wikipolicy not to link to forum sites. -Farix</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="And_that's_a_wrap" data-mw-thread-id="h-And_that's_a_wrap-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z"><span id="And_that.27s_a_wrap"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-And_that's_a_wrap-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z"></span>And that's a wrap<span data-mw-comment-end="h-And_that's_a_wrap-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: And that's a wrap"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z-And_that's_a_wrap"></span>I think we did quite well cleaning up this article while it was the Anime COTW. The information that was just cluttered up the article was moved to separate pages and we were successful in tighten up the rest. Good job everyone. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:TheFarix" title="User:TheFarix">TheFarix</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheFarix" title="User talk:TheFarix">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z-And_that's_a_wrap" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z-And_that's_a_wrap"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheFarix-2006-04-22T17:58:00.000Z-And_that's_a_wrap"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stub-class_article?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stub-class_article?-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"><span id="Stub-class_article.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stub-class_article?-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"></span>Stub-class article?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stub-class_article?-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Stub-class article?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z-Stub-class_article?"></span>Considering the amount of information presented and the organization present, I think this article would at least qualify as a Start-class, or even possibly a stretch to B-class with a no references tag. It clearly covers the background of the series as originally a series of novels, then its adaptation into an anime, manga, and series of movies. It provides a background of the story as well as a list of all media and major production figures as well. It is by no means a complete article, but it does not appear to be a stub either. Some of the sections may be short but the article as a whole presents far more information with more organization than a simple stub.<a href="/wiki/User:The_one092001" title="User:The one092001">the_one092001</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_one092001" title="User talk:The one092001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z-Stub-class_article?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z-Stub-class_article?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z-Stub-class_article?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Holmwood-2008-12-01T05:57:00.000Z-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"></span>Ignore this; the Stub-class tag refers to its film information, of which this article has essentially none. The Anime/Manga WikiProject has correctly classified this as a Start-class article. <dl><dd>Agreed, overall, makes sense as a Start-class article, though is sorely lacking in anything on the LOGH film. That should probably be added. In addition, can anyone explain this tortured sentence (under the caption of the graphic showing the novel cover? "This book is considered valuable and famous because the character of the volume number came to attach since the second edition." This doesn't make sense. I'm sorry I can't help further other than to raise these two points. If you speak Japanese, perhaps you can help on at least the second. <a href="/wiki/User:Holmwood" title="User:Holmwood">Holmwood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Holmwood" title="User talk:Holmwood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Holmwood-2008-12-01T05:57:00.000Z-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Holmwood-2008-12-01T05:57:00.000Z-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Holmwood-2008-12-01T05:57:00.000Z-The_one092001-2008-06-28T22:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Title-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Title-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"></span>Title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Title-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Title"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z-Title"></span>Shouldn't that germanic title from the TV series be in the article somewhere? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.66.198.171" title="Special:Contributions/76.66.198.171">76.66.198.171</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.66.198.171" title="User talk:76.66.198.171">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z-Title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z-Title"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z-Title"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:10:00.000Z-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"></span>At least it is in the talk and it is spelled: "Heldensagen vom Kosmosinsel". It sounds pretty dump in the german language but it is the official title in germany. Creators freedom of language use. :D [21.11.2017 CEST] <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13">2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:10:00.000Z-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:10:00.000Z-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:10:00.000Z-76.66.198.171-2009-01-15T22:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_characters" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z"></span>Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikip-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character"></span>A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline" title="Wikipedia talk:Notability (fiction)">Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ikip" title="User:Ikip">Ikip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikip" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ikip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Ikip-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikip-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikip-2009-02-03T11:01:00.000Z-Request_for_comment_on_articles_for_individual_television_episodes_and_character"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cut_sections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cut_sections-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cut_sections-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z"></span>Cut sections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cut_sections-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Cut sections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z-Cut_sections"></span>Some time ago big chunks of this article <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&diff=240473105&oldid=239757322">were removed</a>. I think that info should be restored. Thoughts? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Piotrus-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z-Cut_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 29 May 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z-Cut_sections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2010-05-29T19:57:00.000Z-Cut_sections"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-27.54.190.252-2011-08-02T08:06:00.000Z-Cut_sections"></span>why to nothing used for holographic technology (3D-process) in a android system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/27.54.190.252" title="Special:Contributions/27.54.190.252">27.54.190.252</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:27.54.190.252&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:27.54.190.252 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-27.54.190.252-2011-08-02T08:06:00.000Z-Cut_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-27.54.190.252-2011-08-02T08:06:00.000Z-Cut_sections"><span 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Recently i was asked to see if it'd be possible to get us linked from the LOGH article on Wikipedia, the same way MA and similar wikis are linked on their respective series articles. </p><p>Having looked at the Wikipedia guidelines on linking to external sites, it seems that the requirement for other wikis is that they have 'a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors'. I am not sure if our project qualifies for that or not; we are just about 2 years old now, and we have maybe a dozen regular contributors who have created almost 1100 articles — it's not much compared to MA but it's a niche subject after all. I do believe we are the most active and complete LOGH resource on the Internet though, even including Japanese ones. </p><p>In addition to that i am of course involved in the project, so it'd raise conflict-of-interest issues if i added a link myself. </p><p>So... i'm just going to drop this here, in the hopes that someone with a more objective view-point can determine whether this is appropriate. If it's not, that's fine of course :) Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Ohkine" title="User:Ohkine">Ohkine</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ohkine&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ohkine (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z-External_links_question/suggestion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z-External_links_question/suggestion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z-External_links_question/suggestion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harizotoh9-2012-10-31T05:22:00.000Z-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure what the policy for fan wikis are. I think they are against it, and favor official sources. Check with the Anime and Manga WikiProject. --<a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Harizotoh9-2012-10-31T05:22:00.000Z-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harizotoh9-2012-10-31T05:22:00.000Z-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harizotoh9-2012-10-31T05:22:00.000Z-Ohkine-2012-02-10T21:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Psychohistory" data-mw-thread-id="h-Psychohistory-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Psychohistory-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"></span>Psychohistory<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Psychohistory-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Psychohistory"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z-Psychohistory"></span>Was reading <a href="/wiki/Psychohistory_(fictional)#Asimovian_psychohistory_and_similar_concepts_in_other_fiction" class="mw-redirect" title="Psychohistory (fictional)">Psychohistory_(fictional)#Asimovian_psychohistory_and_similar_concepts_in_other_fiction</a> and it mentions that this concept appears in LOGH. I don't recall it coming up (at least not named 'psychohistory') in the OVA series, is it possible that this appeared in the novels but wasn't adapted? </p><p>If it did appear in the OVAs, would anyone happen to know which episode and whereabouts in there (like who mentions it) for confirmational purposes? <a href="/wiki/User:Ranze" title="User:Ranze">Ranze</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ranze" title="User talk:Ranze">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z-Psychohistory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z-Psychohistory"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z-Psychohistory"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:25:00.000Z-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"></span>Wen Li's battle strategies (and his hang on history) could be in charge for psychohistory to be linked to LOTGH. Well Wen Li didnt used formula do predict outcoming of battle or a polictical or strategic movement. Instead he used his brain to analyse and compare the issues. Well thats not to far away from normal logical thinking and therefor not really part of the asimovian psychohistory because numbers are not the essential part of the (mental) "calculations". Maybe it is diffrent in the novel, because in the anime it would be not so glorious if Wen Li would be just a math student. Well if i get grab of the novel in my native language i will remember this article. But for the OVA i never noticed asimovian psychohistory or such. [21.11.2017 CEST] <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13">2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:25:00.000Z-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 21 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:25:00.000Z-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:810A:8400:6C20:D8EB:4807:E95A:BF13-2017-11-21T19:25:00.000Z-Ranze-2013-08-29T03:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z"></span>New anime adaptation announced in early 2014<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: New anime adaptation announced in early 2014"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014"></span>Re: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-02-12/legend-of-the-galactic-heroes-novels-get-anime">[1]</a>. Seems reliable enough to merit a mention? --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes#c-Piotrus-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 23 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2014-03-23T14:52:00.000Z-New_anime_adaptation_announced_in_early_2014"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&oldid=1208134213">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes&oldid=1208134213</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_novel_articles" title="Category:C-Class novel articles">C-Class novel articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_novel_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance novel articles">Mid-importance novel articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Science_fiction_novels_articles" title="Category:C-Class Science fiction novels articles">C-Class Science fiction novels articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Science_fiction_novels_articles" title="Category:High-importance Science fiction novels articles">High-importance Science fiction novels articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Novels_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Novels articles">WikiProject Novels articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_anime_and_manga_articles" title="Category:C-Class anime and manga articles">C-Class anime and manga articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_anime_and_manga_articles" title="Category:High-importance anime and manga articles">High-importance anime and manga articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Anime_and_manga_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Anime and manga pages">All WikiProject Anime and manga pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_science_fiction_articles" title="Category:C-Class science fiction articles">C-Class science fiction articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_science_fiction_articles" title="Category:High-importance science fiction articles">High-importance science fiction articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Science_Fiction_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Science Fiction articles">WikiProject Science Fiction articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_film_articles" title="Category:C-Class film articles">C-Class film articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Japanese_cinema_articles" title="Category:C-Class Japanese cinema articles">C-Class Japanese cinema articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Japanese_cinema_task_force_articles" title="Category:Japanese cinema task force articles">Japanese cinema task force articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Film_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Film articles">WikiProject Film articles</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Anime_and_manga_articles_for_cleanup_listing" title="Category:Anime and manga articles for cleanup listing">Anime and manga articles for cleanup listing</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 16 February 2024, at 15:42<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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