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id="Possible_next_steps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possible_next_steps-20230427043300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possible_next_steps-20230427043300"></span>Possible next steps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possible_next_steps-20230427043300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Possible next steps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pbritti-20230427043300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Possible_next_steps-20230427043300","replies":["c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400","timestamp":"20230428063000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Pbritti-20230427043300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Possible_next_steps-20230427043300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Possible next steps&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Possible next steps&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps"></span>After there <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ergzay&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1151932334">latest comment</a> on their talk page, I think the editor your raised a matter with on my behalf might need to see an ANI discussion. Would you agree, or do you think that is necessary? I'm fed up seeing them justify harassment (it was more than just once) and refuse to accept reliable sources as reliable sources, but maybe I have blood in my eyes. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Pbritti" title="User:Pbritti">Pbritti</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pbritti" title="User talk:Pbritti">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:33, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427043300","author":"Pbritti","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300","c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pbritti-20230427043300-Possible_next_steps"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300"></span>Given that you are the more experienced editor, I would say that if you believe an ANI discussion is needed, then it likely is warranted. To me, there are somewhat on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NEWBIES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NEWBIES">new side</a> with just under 2,500 edits, but at the same time they have been around since 2006 and should be understanding not to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HARASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HARASS">do things that people ask them not to do</a>, among other things. I will say that I have concerns regarding things, especially with how many reverts there are in the last few days. (I am somewhat convinced that a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFPP">WP:RFPP</a> discussion would cause the article to be given <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FULL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FULL">full protection</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427051900","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427051900-Pbritti-20230427043300"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pbritti" title="User:Pbritti">Pbritti</a>:</span> Hmm. Do you have a Discord account by chance? If so, I think I would feel more comfortable discussing things there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427060300","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300","replies":["c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300-Pbritti-20230427043300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300"></span>I don't have one I use, but you're welcome to use the email feature. I apologize for the inconvenience. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Pbritti" title="User:Pbritti">Pbritti</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pbritti" title="User talk:Pbritti">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:54, 27 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230427065400","author":"Pbritti","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pbritti-20230427065400-Super_Goku_V-20230427060300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400"></span>No problem. I think I did it correctly. (IF not, please let me know.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230428063000","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20230428063000-Pbritti-20230427065400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Invasive Spices discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Invasive Spices discussion&quot;}--><h2 id="Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100"></span>Re: Invasive Spices discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Re: Invasive Spices discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100","replies":["c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100","timestamp":"20230621111300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion-20230621110100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Re: Invasive Spices discussion&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Re: Invasive Spices discussion&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion"></span>I don't want to pointlessly push that tangent and further muddle the waters over there, so I'll just bring this here real quick: What I meant with "deliberately misinterpreting their request" (<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Please provide an example of a personal attack</q>) is that since IS never specified that example as being something <i>they</i> said, I could have just called them a stunad of the highest order and got away with it because hey, that <i>is</i> an example of a personal attack, good job me! An extremely clever comedy joke, if you will - I do these sometimes, but for some reason, they just never seem to land in written form :) <a href="/wiki/User:Doctor_Duh" title="User:Doctor Duh">Dr. Duh</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Random" title="Special:Random">🩺</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doctor_Duh#top" title="User talk:Doctor Duh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230621110100","author":"Doctor Duh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100"],"displayName":"Dr.\u00a0Duh"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100-Re:_Invasive_Spices_discussion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Doctor_Duh" title="User:Doctor Duh">Doctor Duh</a>:</span> Ah, gotcha. Sadly I am not fully awake or I might have understood the joke. With this in mind and given IS' response, I would not be surprised if I misunderstood that response as joking right back. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230621111300","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20230621111300-Doctor_Duh-20230621110100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoingBatty-20230928131000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BattyBot-20230928131000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BattyBot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BattyBot&quot;}--><h2 id="BattyBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-BattyBot-20230928131000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BattyBot-20230928131000"></span>BattyBot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BattyBot-20230928131000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: BattyBot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-GoingBatty-20230928131000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-BattyBot-20230928131000","replies":["c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600","timestamp":"20231001073900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-GoingBatty-20230928131000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-BattyBot-20230928131000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;BattyBot&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;BattyBot&quot;}--></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1227084136">.mw-parser-output .tracked{float:right;clear:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;width:12em;border:1px solid #72777d;border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked-closure{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}</style><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><span class="tracked-url"><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293603" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T293603"><span class="trakfab-T293603"> Task T293603</span></a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot"></span>Hi there! BattyBot was coded to remove incorrect author parameters such as <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|last=Publishing</code> <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|first=Here</code> when <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=Here Publishing</code> exists. I hope the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB">AWB</a> developers fix the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Hatnote_group" title="Template:Hatnote group">hatnote group</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> issue soon! <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230928131000","author":"GoingBatty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20230928131000-BattyBot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000"></span>Hello, <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a>. Sorry if I caused you more trouble by not sending an incorrect error warning. I had decided to just revert BattyBot and give it a second chance to make the edit as it appeared to me that BattyBot made an error just in the lede. Though now I see that it was a different issue entirely thanks you your last sentence. (To clarify, I apologize if I implied that BattyBot should not have removed the author parameters. That part was fine with me, but I was under the apparently mistaken belief that BattyBot was fully automated instead of partly automated. I just wanted to confirm if BattyBot would repeat the error if I reverted before I made a report to you.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230929081800","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000","replies":["c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800-GoingBatty-20230928131000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a>: I understood that you reverted the bot edit because of the issue with the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Hatnote_group" title="Template:Hatnote group">hatnote group</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> edit. Most of the time, I run BattyBot fully automated. BattyBot (and all AWB bots) will continue mishandling the new <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Hatnote_group" title="Template:Hatnote group">hatnote group</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template until the developers fix it. I appreciate you making the report, so I could manually fix the article and remind the developers about the problem. Thanks, and happy editing! <a href="/wiki/User:GoingBatty" title="User:GoingBatty">GoingBatty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoingBatty" title="User talk:GoingBatty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230929135600","author":"GoingBatty","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoingBatty-20230929135600-Super_Goku_V-20230929081800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600"></span>Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the confusion on my part then and thank you for trying to get the actual issue fixed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231001073900","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20231001073900-GoingBatty-20230929135600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Crescent77-20231104173100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Talk\u00a0: 2023 Lewiston Shootings&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Talk : 2023 Lewiston Shootings&quot;}--><h2 id="Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100"></span>Talk : 2023 Lewiston Shootings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Talk : 2023 Lewiston Shootings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Crescent77-20231104173100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100","replies":["c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231105061600-Crescent77-20231105045600","timestamp":"20231105061600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Crescent77-20231104173100&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings-20231104173100&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Talk\u00a0: 2023 Lewiston Shootings&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Talk : 2023 Lewiston Shootings&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings"></span>On my talk page, you seem to be suggesting I report a user who has already been blocked for Edit Warring and Personal Attacks. That makes no sense to me. Why would I need to report the user if the issue has already been addressed? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crescent77&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crescent77 (page does not exist)">Crescent77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crescent77" title="User talk:Crescent77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104173100","author":"Crescent77","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crescent77-20231104173100-Talk_:_2023_Lewiston_Shootings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crescent77&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crescent77 (page does not exist)">Crescent77</a>:</span> Splitting this discussion in two might make things a bit confusing, but I can try it if you want to. I am suggesting that because of your comments on the talk page of the article. You personally attacked another editor over your thoughts on their editing. Rather than make comments about their editing on the article's talk page, I believe you should instead bring up the matter to an administrator or a noticeboard if you feel their editing is still a problem in some form. Making uncivil comments does not help to resolve the issue. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104211300","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100","replies":["c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300-Crescent77-20231104173100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300"></span>If you're going to make accusations, please present evidence. Where on that talk page did I "personally attack" the editor?</dd> <dd>Once again, why would I need to "bring up the matter to an administrator", when 3 separate administrators have already placed sanctions, including a temporary block, on the user in question? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crescent77&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crescent77 (page does not exist)">Crescent77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crescent77" title="User talk:Crescent77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104212200","author":"Crescent77","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crescent77-20231104212200-Super_Goku_V-20231104211300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Talk:2023_Lewiston_shootings#NPOV_tag_addition" title="Talk:2023 Lewiston shootings">NPOV tag addition</a> discussion. As for the rest, I am saying that if you have an issue with the editor, then don't take it up on the article's talk page, but instead take it up elsewhere. Your comments indicated to me that you do not seem to believe the issue is resolved, which is why I am suggesting it. If you believe the issue is resolved, then things are fine as long as everyone remains civil. To partly quote myself, the talk page has become heated at times, but everyone needs to be more cautious about remaining civil. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104213100","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200","replies":["c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100-Crescent77-20231104212200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100"></span>I think what you're overlooking here is that the thrice blocked editor added the NPOV tag as a tenditious act. My comments were directly relevant to that tenditous act, they were not in violation of WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS, I stand by them. I'm not asking to have them reinstated, as the issue has since been resolved, I would just ask you to consider that your actions may be inadvertently covering for tenditious actions. I appreciate your focus on keeping things civil, but please don't <a href="/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance" title="Paradox of tolerance">push civility to the point it benefits the uncivil.</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crescent77&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crescent77 (page does not exist)">Crescent77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crescent77" title="User talk:Crescent77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104222000","author":"Crescent77","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crescent77-20231104222000-Super_Goku_V-20231104213100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000"></span>Yes, the user added the NPOV tag. Yes, you made comments about it. You claimed that the other user had "again become impatient" and then claimed that they were repeatedly making bad faith edits with the words "latest tendentious tactic." The fact that you are suggesting that there is still an issue with the other editor is a point I have been trying to make. If there is a problem, take it to an admin or a board. If there is not a problem or the problem has been resolved, then don't suggest that there is a problem or still is a problem. Remember, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks" title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks">comment <i>on content</i>, not on the <i>contributor</i>.</a> Additionally, it is impossible for me to conceal another user's edits as I don't have any permissions related to it. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions" title="Special:Contributions">Special:Contributions</a> allows anyone to see edits and the content made by another user as long as they have not been oversighted or suppressed. You can also use <a href="/wiki/Template:Diff" title="Template:Diff">Template:Diff</a> or <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff" title="Special:Diff">Special:Diff</a> to link to them. For example, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/50000000" title="Special:Diff/50000000">this is technically the 50,000,000th edit made to Wikipedia.</a> Currently, there have been roughly 1,183,538,200 edits as seen with <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1183538200" title="Special:Diff/1183538200">Special:Diff/1183538200</a>. This allows the Wiki the ability to see who has done what and take action if necessary. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231104225700","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000","replies":["c-Crescent77-20231105045600-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700-Crescent77-20231104222000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crescent77-20231105045600-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700"></span>Once again, my problem was resolved with the sanctioning of said editor and the removal of the NPOV tag. Where am I suggesting "that there still is an issue with the other editor"? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Crescent77&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Crescent77 (page does not exist)">Crescent77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crescent77" title="User talk:Crescent77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Crescent77-20231105045600-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crescent77-20231105045600-Super_Goku_V-20231104225700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a> does not apply here because David Kozák is dead and there is now no serious doubt that he was the perpetrator. <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm"><span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a></sup></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Ianmacm-20231231090400-2023_Prague_shooting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ianmacm-20231231090400-2023_Prague_shooting"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ctopics/aware" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ctopics/aware">Ctopics/aware</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. <a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hipal" title="User talk:Hipal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216191300","author":"Hipal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics"></span></p> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-1"></span>Also note that articles related to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CT/A-I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CT/A-I">Arab–Israeli conflict</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CT/AP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CT/AP">American politics</a> are also contentious topic areas. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hipal" title="User talk:Hipal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216191300","author":"Hipal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-1","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hipal-20240216191300-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a>:</span> Yes, I have been aware of contentious topics <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/633735859" title="Special:Diff/633735859">since my first notice back in 2014.</a> Thank you for the additional reminder. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216202200","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300","replies":["c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200-Hipal-20240216191300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200"></span>My apologies. That 2014 notice doesn't show up in the regular logs, nor did I see any awareness notice. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hipal" title="User:Hipal">Hipal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hipal" title="User talk:Hipal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216204700","author":"Hipal","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20240216210000-Hipal-20240216204700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hipal-20240216204700-Super_Goku_V-20240216202200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240216210000-Hipal-20240216204700"></span>Huh, interesting. I guess taking a look back in time, I received a "Discretionary sanctions" notice. This time, it is a Contentious topics notice. Perhaps because of how DS notices worked, or because of how old mine was, they were not logged either at the time or at all, while CT notices are by default. 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id="Removing_my_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_my_comments-20240325125700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_my_comments-20240325125700"></span>Removing my comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_my_comments-20240325125700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Removing my comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Synotia-20240325125700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Removing_my_comments-20240325125700","replies":["c-Synotia-20240325125700-Removing_my_comments"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Crocus_City_Hall_attack&amp;diff=prev&amp;oldid=1215402174">this</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Synotia" title="User:Synotia">Synotia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Synotia" title="User talk:Synotia">moan</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Synotia-20240325125700-Removing_my_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Synotia-20240325125700-Removing_my_comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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You are preventing people from saying what they mean, corrupting discourse and making me look egregious with your template. --<a href="/wiki/User:Synotia" title="User:Synotia">Synotia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Synotia" title="User talk:Synotia">moan</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Synotia-20240325125800-Synotia-20240325125700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Synotia-20240325125800-Synotia-20240325125700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240325125800","author":"Synotia","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Synotia-20240325125800-Synotia-20240325125700","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Synotia-20240325125800-Synotia-20240325125700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Synotia" title="User:Synotia">Synotia</a>:</span> You have been <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215210351#Caught_in_4k" title="Special:Diff/1215210351">repeatedly</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215211707#March_2024" title="Special:Diff/1215211707">warned</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215199366#Misinformation_v._Disinformation_distinction" title="Special:Diff/1215199366">multiple</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215212211#Caught_in_4k" title="Special:Diff/1215212211">times</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215236593#Caught_in_4K" title="Special:Diff/1215236593">about</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215402225#Caught_in_4k" title="Special:Diff/1215402225">your comments</a>. Your apparent attempt at <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1215304045#Caught_in_4k" title="Special:Diff/1215304045">justifying</a> your behavior because <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">what I deem of importance in the wake of a huge attack that will have important socio-political repercussions</q> is just an attempt to waive away the consequences of not being civil to other users. Under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">CIVIL</a>, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-italic">editors should always treat each other with consideration and respect.</q> Your conduct on the talk page has been below that.</dd> <dd>In the text that I removed as a personal attack, you made two comments against ASmallMapleLeaf, which I removed under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RPA">RPA</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TPO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TPO">TPO</a>. Primarily, the problem at <a href="/wiki/Crocus_City_Hall_attack" title="Crocus City Hall attack">Crocus City Hall attack</a> has been your repeated attacks on other editors. The fact that you are claiming the removals of personal attacks as "vandalizing talk pages" is very disappointing. I will not remove them a second time given your reversion, but the fact that you stand by your attacks on others is problematic. I would advise you to review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISRUPTIVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISRUPTIVE">DISRUPTIVE</a> with a focus on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISRUPTSIGNS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISRUPTSIGNS">DISRUPTSIGNS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LISTEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LISTEN">LISTEN</a> given your comments and actions. I also advise you to be more civil at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Crocus_City_Hall_attack" title="Talk:Crocus City Hall attack">Talk:Crocus City Hall attack</a> if you make any additional edits there. There are other ways to get your point across to others. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240326071000","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20240326071000-Synotia-20240325125800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401122300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion-20240401122300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401122300-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Nomination of Where is Kate? 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Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Polygnotus-20240726205700-Closing_discussions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240726205700-Closing_discussions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726205700","author":"Polygnotus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Polygnotus-20240726205700-Closing_discussions","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240726205700-Closing_discussions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700"></span>Sure, but in what regard? If it is about <a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_CrowdStrike_incident" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2024 CrowdStrike incident">Talk:2024 CrowdStrike incident</a>, then I am certain Cluebot III knows how to jump from Archive 1 to Archive 3. If needed, we can also switch the number manually when it is time and Cluebot III shouldn't mind. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727074000","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20240727074000-Polygnotus-20240726205700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Clarification re: Ervin&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Clarification re: Ervin&quot;}--><h2 id="Clarification_re:_Ervin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800"></span>Clarification re: Ervin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=15" title="Edit section: Clarification re: Ervin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800","replies":["c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700","timestamp":"20241022040100"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Clarification_re:_Ervin-20241021121800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Clarification re: Ervin&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Clarification re: Ervin&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin"></span>Hi, I saw your reply to me on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ervin111899" title="User talk:Ervin111899">User talk:Ervin111899</a>, and wanted to ask for clarification. I'm asking here because I didn't want to clutter Ervin's talk page. I'm unclear what you're disagreeing with. Are you saying that, even if Ervin contributed to Simple Wikipedia for 6 months, with no copyvios and no behavioral issues, they still could not come back and appeal? I agree that at this moment, they aren't serious enough about changing, hence my thinking of the standard offer, so they may change and demonstrate their seriousness. I feel like I missed an important point of yours, and I hope you'd be willing to clarify. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:EducatedRedneck" title="User:EducatedRedneck">EducatedRedneck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EducatedRedneck" title="User talk:EducatedRedneck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021121800","author":"EducatedRedneck","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800-Clarification_re:_Ervin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800"></span>Hello, EducatedRedneck. I am okay with them appealing their ban, though I am of the opinion that 6 months is too short for a user that was already given the standard offer and that 9-12 months would have been preferred. That aside, I have concerns that they were blocked in part due to their copy and pasting and immediately tried to get their block reverted with <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1235718952" title="Special:Diff/1235718952">a copy and paste of Diannaa's words that they created months ago.</a> Even their response to me looks like they copied their response to you and moved some words around. The fact that they keep copying and pasting responses is a sign that they likely still don't see what the problem is. Hopefully they understand in six months and don't use the text from their last successful appeal. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021192500","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800","replies":["c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500-EducatedRedneck-20241021121800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500"></span>Thank you for your response! I see, so it's not that some form of SO would be offered, but just that a) 6 months was too short, and b) noting that you aren't sanguine it'll be productive. (Please correct me if I misunderstood again.) I agree on b): I imagine it's CIR, and that would be a huge barrier to overcome. It sounds like we agree that there should be a way to appeal in case we're wrong on b), but I doubt either of us will hold the breath. For a), I could see that, too. Thank you for taking the time to help me understand; I feel better knowing I was at least somewhere near reasonable, even if I feel a tad short. Thanks again! <a href="/wiki/User:EducatedRedneck" title="User:EducatedRedneck">EducatedRedneck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EducatedRedneck" title="User talk:EducatedRedneck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021215700","author":"EducatedRedneck","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700-Super_Goku_V-20241021192500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700"></span>I should make it clear that those are just my opinions on the matter, not firm rules. Though, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OFFER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OFFER">OFFER</a> says that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">On the other hand, if the indefinitely blocked/banned user continues to be especially disruptive, or has engaged in particularly serious misconduct, then some administrators may become unwilling to consider a return for a much longer time or ever.</q> Granted, I am not an administrator and it would only be a suggesting coming from me and, again, not a firm rule that should be followed. In any case, hopefully they understand the problem and have resolved it by the time they appeal next. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022040100","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20241022040100-EducatedRedneck-20241021215700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spinixster-20241111083000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;References with a different citation style than established&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;References with a different citation style than established&quot;}--><h2 id="References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established" data-mw-thread-id="h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000"></span>References with a different citation style than established<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=16" title="Edit section: References with a different citation style than established"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Spinixster-20241111083000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000","replies":["c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800","timestamp":"20241111095900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Spinixster-20241111083000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established-20241111083000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;References with a different citation style than established&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;References with a different citation style than established&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established"></span>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITESTYLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITESTYLE">WP:CITESTYLE</a>, you shouldn't be adding references with a different citation style than what the article has. For example, in the <a href="/wiki/2023_Writers_Guild_of_America_strike" title="2023 Writers Guild of America strike">2023 Writers Guild of America strike</a> article, you added references that were typed in manually, while other references in the article uses cite templates. I have gone ahead and fixed it for you, but please make sure to check next time, so other editors won't have issues. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-size: 9pt;"><i>(trout me!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111083000","author":"Spinixster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20241111083000-References_with_a_different_citation_style_than_established"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000"></span>I am a bit confused as I regularly use references like that for years, but gotcha. Is there a way to use <a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_web" title="Template:Cite web">Template:Cite web</a> easier? The last time I was trying to use templates like that for sources, I would sometimes have errors and lost edits. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111084100","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000","replies":["c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100-Spinixster-20241111083000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100"></span>The visual editor has a function that automatically converts references, and it works well most of the time. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Refill" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Refill">WP:Refill</a> is also an option. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-size: 9pt;"><i>(trout me!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111091300","author":"Spinixster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20241111091300-Super_Goku_V-20241111084100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300"></span>Hmm. I avoid the visual editor, but I could use it for references. As far as I have seen from my brief testing, the only issue is that it doesn't handle multiple authors, but I can figure that out. I would consider using Refill, but the <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The templates created automatically by the tool need to be reviewed to ensure that they are accurate, as they are often not</q> warning is a bit discouraging. --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111092700","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300","replies":["c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700-Spinixster-20241111091300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700"></span>Templates such as cite web does handle multiple authors. For example, <code>|last1=Foo |first1=Bar |last2=Other |first2=Name</code>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-size: 9pt;"><i>(trout me!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111092900","author":"Spinixster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700","replies":["c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20241111092900-Super_Goku_V-20241111092700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900"></span>Sorry that I wasn't clear enough. To try again, here was a test created using visual: &lt;ref>{{Cite web |last=Bell |first=Elizabeth Wagmeister,BreAnna |date=2023-09-11 |title=‘The Jennifer Hudson Show’ and ‘The Talk’ Set to Return Amid WGA and SAG-AFTRA Strikes |url=https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/the-talk-return-wga-strike-1235720254/ |access-date=2024-11-11 |website=Variety |language=en-US}}&lt;/ref> The first parameter failed to be automatically converted as there are two authors, so I would have to figure that part out. (Or at least I was going to look into it, but your response is basically a shortcut. Convert |last=Bell |first=Elizabeth Wagmeister,BreAnna into |last2=Bell |first1=Elizabeth |last1=Wagmeister |first2=BreAnna and reorder the parameters.)</dd> <dd>In any case, thank you for the help and support. :D --<a href="/wiki/User:Super_Goku_V" title="User:Super Goku V">Super Goku V</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111093800","author":"Super Goku V","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900","replies":["c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800-Spinixster-20241111092900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800"></span>You're welcome. I did have to edit that result myself, since sometimes the reference converter does mess up. <a href="/wiki/User:Spinixster" title="User:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-family: Elephant;">Spinixster</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spinixster" title="User talk:Spinixster"><span style="color: #b22e3e; font-size: 9pt;"><i>(trout me!)</i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Super_Goku_V#c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111095900","author":"Spinixster","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spinixster-20241111095900-Super_Goku_V-20241111093800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Super_Goku_V&amp;action=edit&amp;section=17" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","timestamp":"20241119002500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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Basically, someone left Wikipedia and is intending to never come back. The account was renamed to Vanished User (Random Characters) and is locked. 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