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href="http://www.wbez.org/blog/justin-kaufmann/2011-06-08/wikipedia-files-big-hurt-frank-thomas-87588">"Wikipedia Files: The 'Big Hurt' Frank Thomas"</a>. <a href="/wiki/WBEZ" title="WBEZ">WBEZ</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Wikipedia+Files%3A+The+%27Big+Hurt%27+Frank+Thomas&rft.date=2010-10-01&rft.au=Justin+Kaufmann&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wbez.org%2Fblog%2Fjustin-kaufmann%2F2011-06-08%2Fwikipedia-files-big-hurt-frank-thomas-87588&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AFrank+Thomas+%28designated+hitter%29" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> </div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Untitled" data-mw-thread-id="h-Untitled"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Untitled"></span>Untitled<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Untitled"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Untitled"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Is is too early to post a player's career stats, if they are still active? </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004" data-mw-thread-id="h-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"></span>Career Statistics as of early 2004<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Career Statistics as of early 2004"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table border="true"> <tbody><tr><td>G</td><td>AB</td><td>H</td><td>2B</td><td>3B</td><td>HR</td><td>R</td><td>RBI</td><td>BB</td><td>IBB</td><td>SO</td><td>SH</td><td>SF</td><td>HBP</td><td>AVG</td><td>OBP</td><td>SLG</td></tr> <tr><td>1,851</td><td>6,611</td><td>2,048</td><td>428</td><td>11</td><td>418</td><td>1,255</td><td>1,390</td><td>1,386</td><td>159</td><td>1,077</td><td>0</td><td>105</td><td>65</td><td>.310</td><td>.428</td><td>.568</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Not at all, be our guest. <a href="/wiki/User:Meelar" title="User:Meelar">Meelar</a> 06:30, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC) </p> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname" data-mw-thread-id="h-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"></span>Origin and Meaning of Nickname<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname-Career_Statistics_as_of_early_2004-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Origin and Meaning of Nickname"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span>Could anyone please explain his nickname? I know, some reporter named him that way. But that does not explain much, does it? Cheers. </p><p>It's just a Hawkism for you, I guess. Maybe because he was sort of prone to injury. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:67.175.112.107&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:67.175.112.107 (page does not exist)">67.175.112.107</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-19T06:38:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thorstenzoerner-2006-08-23T23:29:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span>--ACTUALLY, Hawk named him "the big hurt" b/c he could put a "hurt" on the ball! he was relatively injury free in his first 7 years. </p><p>Okay, cool, that's what I was looking for. How about putting both explanations on the main side? (And now I even know, how to sign... hopefully... <a href="/wiki/User:Thorstenzoerner" title="User:Thorstenzoerner">Thorsten</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Thorstenzoerner-2006-08-23T23:29:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)</a> Yes! :-)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thorstenzoerner-2006-08-23T23:29:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thorstenzoerner-2006-08-23T23:29:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TeganX7-2007-08-27T00:49:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span> Can someone tell me when and for what reason he earned the nickname Frank "The Tank". I have followed Frank his entire career and have never heard anyone (broadcaster, player, or fan) use this nickname.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TeganX7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TeganX7 (page does not exist)">TeganX7</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-TeganX7-2007-08-27T00:49:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TeganX7-2007-08-27T00:49:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TeganX7-2007-08-27T00:49:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quazvin-2008-05-29T16:46:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span>No one has ever called Frank Thomas "The Tank". He was never associated with the movie Old School. Whoever decided to edit the page that way might as well list any made up nickname he or she deems fit for any player. Instead of "Junior" or "The Kid" I think "Kenny The Jet" should be added to the Ken Griffey Jr page because that's an existing Ken nickname and I feel like applying it to any Ken. Seriously ridiculous.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Quazvin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Quazvin (page does not exist)">Quazvin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Quazvin-2008-05-29T16:46:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quazvin-2008-05-29T16:46:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quazvin-2008-05-29T16:46:00.000Z-Origin_and_Meaning_of_Nickname"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="POV" data-mw-thread-id="h-POV-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-POV-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z"></span>POV<span data-mw-comment-end="h-POV-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: POV"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z-POV"></span>I removed the line in "See Also" which claimed that he was widely regarded as the greatest player in club history. That may be the case (I agree, actually), but the White Sox have had some very good players who could give Thomas a run for his money. Shoeless Joe Jackson comes to mind, as do Luis Aparicio and even Harold Baines. When the DHL Hometown Heroes winners are announced, maybe then it makes sense to put that fact up (assuming, of course, that Frank wins). Otherwise, the claim seems speculative <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:67.175.112.107&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:67.175.112.107 (page does not exist)">67.175.112.107</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z-POV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z-POV"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.175.112.107-2006-07-25T09:18:00.000Z-POV"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Steroids?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Steroids?-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"><span id="Steroids.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Steroids?-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"></span>Steroids?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Steroids?-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Steroids?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z-Steroids?"></span>While I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Frank Thomas' career, I'm a fairly active baseball fan and I've never heard anyone express suspicions about him and steroids. On the contrary, he seems to typically be one of the examples of players considered to be clean. I don't want to simply delete the section, but I'm wondering if the author (or anyone else) can provide any links backing up this assertation. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:71.135.34.40&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:71.135.34.40 (page does not exist)">71.135.34.40</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.135.34.40&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.135.34.40 (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.135.34.40" title="Special:Contributions/71.135.34.40">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z-Steroids?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z-Steroids?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z-Steroids?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"></span>I do not see a section on steroids in the article. There also have been no public suspicions of steroid use on Thomas' behalf (at least that I can't find any...ANYWHERE). Its inclusion would be speculative, opinion based (not fact), and essentially libel so I'd be careful what you write people. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:24.224.148.169&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:24.224.148.169 (page does not exist)">24.224.148.169</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:24.224.148.169" title="User talk:24.224.148.169">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.224.148.169" title="Special:Contributions/24.224.148.169">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)</a></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z-71.135.34.40-2006-07-29T06:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KirinX-2007-04-10T01:39:00.000Z-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z"></span>Frank Thomas is regarded among baseball-heads as a "clean crusader" -- somebody who's actively campaigned against them, always been open to tests, etc. I don't have any reliable source but it's been mentioned many many times in broadcasts, and I've certainly never noticed any steroids accusations against him, and I've been following baseball passionately since before he was drafted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:KirinX" title="User:KirinX">KirinX</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-KirinX-2007-04-10T01:39:00.000Z-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KirinX-2007-04-10T01:39:00.000Z-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KirinX-2007-04-10T01:39:00.000Z-24.224.148.169-2007-04-10T00:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z-Steroids?"></span>I think there SHOULD be a section for Thomas about steroids, but one pointing out that he's long been a vocal opponent of their use, has willingly gone to Mitchell to talk about his concerns, and very likely lost the MVP award in 2000 because he wouldn't use. I'm willing to bet that as more and more players fall under suspicion, Thomas is going to look more and more like a true role model. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/160.39.213.109" title="Special:Contributions/160.39.213.109">160.39.213.109</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:160.39.213.109&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:160.39.213.109 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z-Steroids?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z-Steroids?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z-Steroids?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.134.238.195-2011-07-30T12:44:00.000Z-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z"></span>On the subject of steroids, there is a claim that Thomas finished second behind Giambi 'Who was found guilty of using steroids.' This claim is unsourced, and while it's certainly true that Giambi ADMITTED steroid use, 'Found guilty' implies that Giambi received official sanction for steroid use from either the league or the criminal courts, which is simply untrue. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.134.238.195" title="Special:Contributions/86.134.238.195">86.134.238.195</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:86.134.238.195" title="User talk:86.134.238.195">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-86.134.238.195-2011-07-30T12:44:00.000Z-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.134.238.195-2011-07-30T12:44:00.000Z-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.134.238.195-2011-07-30T12:44:00.000Z-160.39.213.109-2007-12-14T09:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lots_o'_Boxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lots_o'_Boxes-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z"><span id="Lots_o.27_Boxes"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lots_o'_Boxes-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Lots o' Boxes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lots_o'_Boxes-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Lots o' Boxes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TeganX7-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z-Lots_o'_Boxes"></span>I added the (upon reflection) large number of succession boxes with his awards. It may be too much, and even if they are not, they might be made more colorful. Please don't delete entirely without comment, but I wanted to put them up and see what people thought. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TeganX7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TeganX7 (page does not exist)">TeganX7</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-TeganX7-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z-Lots_o'_Boxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TeganX7-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z-Lots_o'_Boxes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TeganX7-2007-08-18T18:18:00.000Z-Lots_o'_Boxes"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_teammate_of_Bo_comment." data-mw-thread-id="h-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment.-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment.-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z"></span>The teammate of Bo comment.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment.-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: The teammate of Bo comment."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Millec4-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment."></span>I'm going to change that. Bo and Frank were not on the same Auburn team (football or baseball) Bo's first season was 1982 and he finished up at Auburn in 1985, Thomas didn't come in until a year later. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Millec4&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Millec4 (page does not exist)">Millec4</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Millec4&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Millec4 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Millec4-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Millec4-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Millec4-2007-12-14T23:49:00.000Z-The_teammate_of_Bo_comment."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_move-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_move-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"></span>Page move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_move-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Page move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z-Page_move"></span>The article had been at <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(AL_baseball_player)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)">Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)</a> for a long time; there was no reason to move it, especially since DH isn't really a position. The clearest way to distinguish the two Frank Thomases is by league, since the earlier one never played in the AL and this one will likely never play in the NL. <a href="/wiki/User:MisfitToys" title="User:MisfitToys">MisfitToys</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisfitToys" title="User talk:MisfitToys">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z-Page_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z-Page_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z-Page_move"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"></span>Distinguishing it by league is stupid. What is the difference in playing in the AL and the NL except for the designated hitter rule? --<a href="/wiki/User:Street20" title="User:Street20">Street20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Street20" title="User talk:Street20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z-MisfitToys-2008-02-09T00:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z"></span>The levels of disambiguation are generally (baseball) and then ([position]) if it's needed to go farther. Position is used in mostly all cases in which disambiguation between two baseball players is needed. As for the "it has been this way for a long time" argument, that doesn't really make much sense. Just because something has been a certain way for a while not only doesn't make it the best way, but that doesn't make it the standard. Generally, the standard is that position be the primary disambiguation between two players of the same name. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Ksy92003" title="User:Ksy92003">Ksy92003</a></b><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ksy92003" title="User talk:Ksy92003"><span style="color:black;">(talk)</span></a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z-Street20-2008-02-09T01:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:58:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"></span>I changed it back and please see the talk page on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Street20" title="User:Street20">Street20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Street20" title="User talk:Street20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:58:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:58:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Street20-2008-02-09T01:58:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-10T01:34:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"></span>However, DH is not a position. Anyway, about 90% of the links went to the old title, and widely linked articles shouldn't generally be shifted unless there's a particularly compelling reason to do so (such as when someone changes the name by which they're primarily known). <a href="/wiki/User:MisfitToys" title="User:MisfitToys">MisfitToys</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisfitToys" title="User talk:MisfitToys">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-MisfitToys-2008-02-10T01:34:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-10T01:34:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisfitToys-2008-02-10T01:34:00.000Z-Ksy92003-2008-02-09T01:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster" data-mw-thread-id="h-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"></span>re: White Sox World Series roster<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: re: White Sox World Series roster"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster"></span>There seems to be a very small issue developing over this. As far as I can tell, Thomas was on injured reserve. This does not make him an "on the playing roster" guy, but I think most people consider IR players as <i>de facto</i> roster players. He was given a ring and a full share of the World Series money. While it is true that he was not in uniform for any games, and was not on the actual active roster, I think IR guys are considered by most people to be "rostered players" in this regard. I'm not sure if anyone has more definitive information on this. <a href="/wiki/User:LonelyBeacon" title="User:LonelyBeacon">LonelyBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LonelyBeacon" title="User talk:LonelyBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z-re:_White_Sox_World_Series_roster"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Googie_man-2008-03-31T17:46:00.000Z-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"></span>There's no issue, just Blue Jay fan vandals causing trouble. You're completely right. Furthermore, following this logic, do we now have to expunge from Wikipedia every player who was injured during the season and didn't play in the World Series? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Googie_man&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Googie man (page does not exist)">Googie man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Googie_man" title="User talk:Googie man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Googie_man-2008-03-31T17:46:00.000Z-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Googie_man-2008-03-31T17:46:00.000Z-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Googie_man-2008-03-31T17:46:00.000Z-LonelyBeacon-2008-03-30T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Picture_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Picture_issue-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Picture_issue-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z"></span>Picture issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Picture_issue-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Picture issue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hootie86u-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z-Picture_issue"></span>Picture should be either: </p><p>1) Removed, due to its size. or 2) Inserted into a more convenient section of the article, so it does not leave a long blank of space in between sections. </p><p>There. Like this better? Better than you giving me the F-word isn't it? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Hootie86u" title="User:Hootie86u">Hootie86u</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hootie86u" title="User talk:Hootie86u">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hootie86u" title="Special:Contributions/Hootie86u">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Hootie86u-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z-Picture_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hootie86u-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z-Picture_issue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hootie86u-2008-04-01T01:06:00.000Z-Picture_issue"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2008_updates" data-mw-thread-id="h-2008_updates-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2008_updates-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z"></span>2008 updates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2008_updates-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: 2008 updates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z-2008_updates"></span>An anonymous editor is updating virtually everything that Thomas is doing this year. I'm a big fan,. but in the spirit of an encyclopedia, none of this information is truly important for an encyclopedia. It is information of relatively short term importance. If I am missing something, please note it here and keep on editing.<a href="/wiki/User:LonelyBeacon" title="User:LonelyBeacon">LonelyBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LonelyBeacon" title="User talk:LonelyBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LonelyBeacon-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z-2008_updates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z-2008_updates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LonelyBeacon-2008-04-07T00:24:00.000Z-2008_updates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies" data-mw-thread-id="h-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z"></span>500 homers and 130 something sac flies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: 500 homers and 130 something sac flies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Msjayhawk-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies"></span>Are you kidding me? What kind of stat is that? You need to get rid of it, an RBI is an RBI....... </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Msjayhawk" title="User:Msjayhawk">Msjayhawk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Msjayhawk" title="User talk:Msjayhawk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Msjayhawk-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Msjayhawk-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Msjayhawk-2009-11-01T01:54:00.000Z-500_homers_and_130_something_sac_flies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Big_Hurt" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Big_Hurt-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Big_Hurt-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"></span>The Big Hurt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Big_Hurt-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: The Big Hurt"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z-The_Big_Hurt"></span>Is there a compelling reason we don't have a disambiguation page? That's a lot of italics at the top of this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Thmazing" title="User:Thmazing">Thmazing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thmazing" title="User talk:Thmazing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z-The_Big_Hurt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z-The_Big_Hurt"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z-The_Big_Hurt"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Best_O_Fortuna-2010-03-11T23:42:00.000Z-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> > <a href="/wiki/User:Best_O_Fortuna" title="User:Best O Fortuna">Best O Fortuna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Best_O_Fortuna" title="User talk:Best O Fortuna">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Best_O_Fortuna-2010-03-11T23:42:00.000Z-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Best_O_Fortuna-2010-03-11T23:42:00.000Z-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Best_O_Fortuna-2010-03-11T23:42:00.000Z-Thmazing-2010-03-11T07:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span>Requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ucucha-2010-04-29T20:18:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>Page moved</b> as proposed, without prejudice against moving to a different disambiguator. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ucucha" title="User talk:Ucucha">Ucucha</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Ucucha-2010-04-29T20:18:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ucucha-2010-04-29T20:18:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ucucha-2010-04-29T20:18:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(AL_baseball_player)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(baseball,_born_1968)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)">Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)</a> — Naming conventions would suggest identification by sport and year born, since the one born in 1929 also played the same position. <a href="/wiki/User:AEMoreira042281" title="User:AEMoreira042281">AEMoreira042281</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AEMoreira042281" title="User talk:AEMoreira042281">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:17:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> It's only coincidence and luck that both players stayed in their respective leagues. And if a third player with this name comes along, then what? The only way it would work with the current naming would be if he were <a href="/w/index.php?title=Frank_Thomas_(both_leagues_baseball_player)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Frank Thomas (both leagues baseball player) (page does not exist)">Frank Thomas (both leagues baseball player)</a>. Easy and obvious move. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Torchiest" title="User:Torchiest">Torchiest</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Torchiest" title="User talk:Torchiest">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Torchiest" title="Special:Contributions/Torchiest">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:17:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:17:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:17:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tewapack-2010-04-27T17:46:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span>Based on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NC-BASE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NC-BASE">WP:NC-BASE</a>, the proper move would be to <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)" title="Frank Thomas (designated hitter)">Frank Thomas (designated hitter)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(NL_baseball_player)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (NL baseball player)">Frank Thomas (NL baseball player)</a> to <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(outfielder)" title="Frank Thomas (outfielder)">Frank Thomas (outfielder)</a>, both of which are already redirects to the correct articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Tewapack" title="User:Tewapack">Tewapack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tewapack" title="User talk:Tewapack">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Tewapack-2010-04-27T17:46:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 27 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tewapack-2010-04-27T17:46:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tewapack-2010-04-27T17:46:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:57:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> DH Thomas also played first base early in his career. OF Thomas also played first and third base. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Torchiest" title="User:Torchiest">Torchiest</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Torchiest" title="User talk:Torchiest">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Torchiest" title="Special:Contributions/Torchiest">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:57:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 27 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:57:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Torchiest-2010-04-27T17:57:00.000Z-AEMoreira042281-2010-04-21T05:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_2-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_2-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_2-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Requested move 2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vegaswikian-2011-01-30T22:54:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p><b>Page moved</b> to <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)" title="Frank Thomas (designated hitter)">Frank Thomas (designated hitter)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Vegaswikian" title="User:Vegaswikian">Vegaswikian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vegaswikian" title="User talk:Vegaswikian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Vegaswikian-2011-01-30T22:54:00.000Z-Requested_move_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vegaswikian-2011-01-30T22:54:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vegaswikian-2011-01-30T22:54:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(1990s%E2%80%932000s_baseball)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (1990s–2000s baseball)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nlu-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span>Frank Thomas (1990s–2000s baseball)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas" class="mw-disambig" title="Frank Thomas">Frank Thomas</a> — The recent Frank Thomas, I would have to believe, is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC">primary topic</a> when "Frank Thomas" is thought of or searched for. In addition, the current article title is extremely bulky and not useful. I would suggest moving the article on him to be the primary article, while moving the disambiguation page to reflect. The other baseball Frank Thomas can then receive a slightly shorter disambiguation title. <a href="/wiki/User:Nlu" title="User:Nlu">Nlu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nlu" title="User talk:Nlu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Nlu-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z-Requested_move_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nlu-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nlu-2011-01-22T20:51:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas" class="mw-disambig" title="Frank Thomas"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span>Frank Thomas</a> → <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(disambiguation)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Frank Thomas (disambiguation)">Frank Thomas (disambiguation)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(1950s/60s_baseball)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (1950s/60s baseball)">Frank Thomas (1950s/60s baseball)</a> → <a href="/wiki/Frank_J._Thomas" class="mw-disambig" title="Frank J. Thomas">Frank J. Thomas</a></li></ul> <p>Why were these articles moved from <b>Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1929)</b> and <b>Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)</b>? <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-Requested_move_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 22 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-Requested_move_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TonyTheTiger-2011-01-23T00:16:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> move. I agree the move was not proper based on my understanding of pagenaming policy.--<a href="/wiki/User:TonyTheTiger" title="User:TonyTheTiger">TonyTheTiger</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TonyTheTiger" title="User talk:TonyTheTiger">T</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger" title="Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger">C</a>/<a href="/wiki/User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio_Vernon" class="mw-redirect" title="User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon">BIO</a>/<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHICAGO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHICAGO">WP:CHICAGO</a>/<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOUR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FOUR">WP:FOUR</a>) </small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-TonyTheTiger-2011-01-23T00:16:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TonyTheTiger-2011-01-23T00:16:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TonyTheTiger-2011-01-23T00:16:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> Last month <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(baseball,_born_1968)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)">Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)</a> (as it was then) received <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/Frank%20Thomas%20%28baseball%2C%20born%201968%29">1977 views</a>. <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(animator)" title="Frank Thomas (animator)">Frank Thomas (animator)</a> received <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/Frank%20Thomas%20%28animator%29">2255 views</a>. As such there is no evidence that the baseball player is the primary topic. Also I don't see any evidence that the second player was commonly referred to as <a href="/wiki/Frank_J._Thomas" class="mw-disambig" title="Frank J. Thomas">Frank J. Thomas</a>. None of the references title him such. <s>I do <b>support</b> returning the baseball players to the correct dab style <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(baseball,_born_1929)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1929)">Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1929)</a> and <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(baseball,_born_1968)" class="mw-redirect" title="Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)">Frank Thomas (baseball, born 1968)</a></s> (see below). <a href="/wiki/User:Tassedethe" title="User:Tassedethe">Tassedethe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tassedethe" title="User talk:Tassedethe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure that the number of views is the proper metric here. If we are going by number of views, <a href="/wiki/Hilary_Duff" title="Hilary Duff">Hilary Duff</a> might get far more views than any other Hilary or Hillary; that doesn't make her the primary topic. Indeed, it might be precisely that the most recent Frank Thomas is the one who comes to mind the first that there are fewer reasons to read his article (to get information) — not to mention that there are many other Web sites out there on baseball that will provide more information on Thomas the DH than Thomas the animator — such that there are more people with needs to view information about Thomas the animator on Wikipedia than Thomas the DH, such that you're going to get more views on Thomas the animator even though Thomas the DH is still the proper primary subject. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nlu" title="User:Nlu">Nlu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nlu" title="User talk:Nlu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T00:47:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T01:03:00.000Z-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z"></span>The one that comes to your mind maybe, but I've never heard of any of them so I looked at the numbers. <a href="/wiki/User:Tassedethe" title="User:Tassedethe">Tassedethe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tassedethe" title="User talk:Tassedethe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T01:03:00.000Z-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T01:03:00.000Z-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-23T01:03:00.000Z-Nlu-2011-01-23T00:57:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T01:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - In October 2010, <a href="/wiki/User:Wknight94" title="User:Wknight94">Wknight94</a> moved these articles with the following edit summaries <i>"Born in 1929 (1968), is terrible. No one knows he was born in 1929 (1968) - That's why they openend the article"</i>. What the heck was that? How could we not know when these guys were born? their birth years are sourced. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T01:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T01:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T01:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>I think Wknight94 meant that very few people would know their birth years enough to know what they are to conduct a search. I am a fan of the AL Frank Thomas, but even I don't know his birth year without looking it up. <a href="/wiki/User:LonelyBeacon" title="User:LonelyBeacon">LonelyBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LonelyBeacon" title="User talk:LonelyBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-1"></span>Comment</b> - I support the principle of the move as the current title is really not helpful in a search. <a href="/wiki/User:LonelyBeacon" title="User:LonelyBeacon">LonelyBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LonelyBeacon" title="User talk:LonelyBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-23T02:09:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tewapack-2011-01-23T07:12:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - According to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NC-BASE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NC-BASE">WP:NC-BASE</a>, the proper move would be to <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)" title="Frank Thomas (designated hitter)">Frank Thomas (designated hitter)</a> and the other player to <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(outfielder)" title="Frank Thomas (outfielder)">Frank Thomas (outfielder)</a>. These were their most played "positions", although they both played other positions, and neither played the other's position so there can be no confusion between the players. <a href="/wiki/User:Tewapack" title="User:Tewapack">Tewapack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tewapack" title="User talk:Tewapack">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Tewapack-2011-01-23T07:12:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tewapack-2011-01-23T07:12:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tewapack-2011-01-23T07:12:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T07:42:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - Why not move them to <b>Frank Thomas (baseball, b.1929)</b> & <b>Frank Thomas (baseball, b. 1968)</b>? <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T07:42:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T07:42:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-2011-01-23T07:42:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LtPowers-2011-01-23T14:31:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Strongly oppose</b>; if anyone is the primary topic, it's <a href="/wiki/Frank_Thomas_(animator)" title="Frank Thomas (animator)">Frank Thomas (animator)</a>, but I'm certainly willing to concede that there is no primary topic. <a href="/wiki/User:LtPowers" title="User:LtPowers">Powers</a> <sup><small><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LtPowers" title="User talk:LtPowers">T</a></small></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LtPowers-2011-01-23T14:31:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LtPowers-2011-01-23T14:31:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LtPowers-2011-01-23T14:31:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neonblak-2011-01-27T05:13:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - I agree with Tewapack above, naming conventions are clear here, you should use the second option, their primary position. The one used above (baseball, born 1958) (<i>example</i>), is the last option.<i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Neonblak" title="User:Neonblak"><span style="color:black;">Neonblak</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neonblak" title="User talk:Neonblak"><sup style="color:darkblue;">talk</sup></a></b> - </i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Neonblak-2011-01-27T05:13:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neonblak-2011-01-27T05:13:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neonblak-2011-01-27T05:13:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dewelar-2011-01-27T05:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - I would also like to voice my agreement with Tewapack/Neonblak. Per WP:NC-BASE, those are the proper page titles. -<a href="/wiki/User:Dewelar" title="User:Dewelar">Dewelar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dewelar" title="User talk:Dewelar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Dewelar-2011-01-27T05:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dewelar-2011-01-27T05:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dewelar-2011-01-27T05:52:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killervogel5-2011-01-27T12:06:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Naming by primary position is easily the best option here. — <a href="/wiki/User:Killervogel5" title="User:Killervogel5"><span style="color:#B71234"><b>KV5</b></span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killervogel5" title="User talk:Killervogel5"><span style="color:#00338d">Talk</span></a> • <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Killervogel5-2011-01-27T12:06:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killervogel5-2011-01-27T12:06:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killervogel5-2011-01-27T12:06:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muboshgu-2011-01-27T14:27:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>I agree with naming them by primary positions. --<a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Muboshgu-2011-01-27T14:27:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muboshgu-2011-01-27T14:27:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muboshgu-2011-01-27T14:27:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-27T14:45:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> naming by position (changed my support, see above). <a href="/wiki/User:Tassedethe" title="User:Tassedethe">Tassedethe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tassedethe" title="User talk:Tassedethe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Tassedethe-2011-01-27T14:45:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-27T14:45:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tassedethe-2011-01-27T14:45:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-28T01:58:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> move to <i>Frank Thomas (designated hitter)</i>. I do not support "Frank Thomas" going to the animator. I would support a disambiguation page for the three (or more) Franks. If views are going to be a measure of this, the designated hitter will see a definitive spike in a few years when he becomes eligible for the hall of fame ... likely a temporary increase. Certainly if coverage is a potential gauge, the designated hitter will have significantly more coverage, though I would not necessarily argue that as a reason for giving him precedence.<a href="/wiki/User:LonelyBeacon" title="User:LonelyBeacon">LonelyBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LonelyBeacon" title="User talk:LonelyBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-28T01:58:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-28T01:58:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LonelyBeacon-2011-01-28T01:58:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rlendog-2011-01-29T02:07:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Comment</b> - Support naming the baseball articles by position (although I would use 1st baseman for the recent Frank Thomas, but don't have a strong objection to DH). <a href="/wiki/User:Rlendog" title="User:Rlendog">Rlendog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rlendog" title="User talk:Rlendog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Frank_Thomas_(designated_hitter)#c-Rlendog-2011-01-29T02:07:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rlendog-2011-01-29T02:07:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rlendog-2011-01-29T02:07:00.000Z-GoodDay-2011-01-22T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. 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