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Specifically, we cover: 1) Why salespeople think they understand the customer better 2) How win-loss research can fill in gaps from loss reasons 3) Marketing and sales not understanding each other's metrics or daily pressures 4) How founders or VCs can make it difficult to align on one ICP 5) Why marketers should shadow sales calls to gain firsthand experience 6) Ways to build a rapport with sales as a marketer Eric drinks a mezcal on the rocks 🥃 Zach drinks a Coors Light 🍺 Gab drinks a homemade gin tonic with maple syrup 🍸 Ben drinks a Coors Banquet 🍺 I drink canned wine 🍷<!-- HTML_TAG_END --></span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Play" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" 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</div></h3> </div> <p class="episode-details__summary svelte-5dvoy6" data-testid="episode-content__summary" dir="auto"><div class="multiline-clamp svelte-73d2pa multiline-clamp--overflow" style="--mc-lineClamp: 1;"> <span class="multiline-clamp__text svelte-73d2pa"><!-- HTML_TAG_START -->In the last episode of Season 2 - we discuss the relationship between go-to-market and product with our co-founder and Head of Product at Navattic, Randy Frank. Specifically, we cover: 1) How to identify when a product role is needed 2) Ways to align on a product roadmap and not get distracted 3) Why you need to filter customer feedback to prioritize valuable features 4) Balancing innovative features and competitive offerings 5) Ways to communicate product updates to go-to-market teams 6) How to manage expectations for product launch timelines and scope Randy drinks a local DC lager 🍻 I drink a negroni 🥃 Ben drinks a Coors Banquet 🍻<!-- HTML_TAG_END --></span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Play" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> 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And we bring on our co-sponsor and events expert Regina Magaril from Mutiny to rehash learnings from the events. 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Specifically, we cover: 1) Why sales is laser-focused on hitting quota 2) Ben's experience with quota at other companies 3) How marketing can not bother sales near the end of the quarter 4) Ways to involve the entire sales team in setting quotas 5) How hitting quota impacts the entire company 6) Dissecting wins to help sales reps play to strengths and talents Ben drinks a whiskey 🥃 I drink a canned cocktail 🍸<!-- HTML_TAG_END --></span> </div></p> <div class="episode-details__meta svelte-5dvoy6"><div class="play-button-wrapper play-button-wrapper--meta svelte-4y8aap"> <div class="interactive-play-button svelte-ru2n8h" data-testid="interactive-play-button"><button aria-label="Play" class="play-button svelte-1fx4rnm play-button--platter is-stand-alone" data-testid="play-button"><svg aria-hidden="true" class="icon play-svg" data-testid="play-icon" iconState="play"><use href="#play-circle-fill"></use></svg> </button> </div></div></div></div> </section> <section class="sub-container 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