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I'm not quite certain on this issue. IMHO Andromeda is a completely separate personality and deserves its own article, but OTOH even the show credits make no such distinction. [[User:Skroderider|Skroderider]] 13:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC) :Show credits would not make a distinction. Series plots, scripts, producer comments, DVD notes, etc. all indicate two very distinct characters: Rommie the droid who walks around, and Andromeda the ship that flies around. In fact, episodes sometimes show three Andromeda: droid-Rommie, holographic-Andromeda, and ship/display screen-Andromeda, though I don't think the latter two are fully distinct personalities. Droid-Rommie has even been in conflict with ship-Andromeda in at least one episode, probably more. In the show universe they are two different characters, very clearly from at least season three on.[[User:Avt tor|Avt tor]] 20:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC) ::Initially Rommie's personality seemed to be a carbon copy of Andromeda (at least in terms of imperatives and prerogatives) theoretically capable of working autonomously but generally operating in harmony with the rest of Andromeda, either by being directly networked to the original AI or generally just agreeing with it on every point and suggested course of action. This changes a bit in later seasons, but whether it is a case of lack of character continuity or an intended development of mechanisms not fully explained in the show is impossible to say, though I'd think the former is more likely. It's a pity such points weren't touched on in more detail to give Rommie's increasingly independent and human character some validity as well as to avoid the inconsistencies in the dynamics between the two AI's which are already reflected in the current page. Not that the writers took the point to extremes, unlike so many other character concepts; I always liked that Rommie continued to refer to herself as a warship, I think that was a very interesting touch that reflected her own conflated sense of identity. I also recall thinking that it was implied -- though I don't believe its anywhere explicitly stated -- that even when Rommie was away from Andromeda for significant periods as soon as she was brought within range again, she could uplink with Andromeda and the two would share their data/experiences and again merge closer to a homogeneous personality (though at the same time it was clear that the unique experience of living with a humanoid body continued to cause Rommie to evolve independently in some respects over time). But returning to the root question, I don't believe separate pages are warranted or that such an arrangement benefits the description of either character; they are, in my opinion, so interdependent with regard to the plot that they should be treated together. I also suggest that the page header should list Andromeda as the "primary" character and Rommie should get the sub-section owing to the fact that she really is the variation on the original and not the other way around. [[User:Snow-THA|Snow-THA]] ([[User talk:Snow-THA|talk]]) 20:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC) At the very least the list of characters should say Andromeda/Rommie and not Andromeda Ascendant (Rommie), as the latter implies Rommie to be a nickname for the ship itself. There are three distinct projections of the core AI. As noted, the on-screen command and control Andromeda, the holographic projection Andromeda, and the android avatar Rommie. The first two are the initial division in personality: the C&C Andromeda being strictly business, and the holographic ship/human interface having some human like reactions (crossing arms and rolling eyes, etc.). Only when the AI is interacting with outside contacts does it refer to itself as Andromeda Ascendant, meaning the ship itself. The crew invariably refers to it/them as Andromeda. The android avatar Rommie (built by Harper, if I'm not mistaken) was, as stated, originally a copy of the AI, specifically the more human seeming holographic version. Rommie developed more human like aspects, including emotional reactions, gradually differentiating from the holographic Andromeda more and more, up to and including her demise at the end of season 4. It should also be noted that Doyle contains a copy of Rommie with a unique personality laid over the original in order to control problematic aspects of the "destroyed" Rommie. This does pose a problem as far as bullet-point one liners, as the different manifestations are different projections of the core AI which have evolved differently. Not the usual kind of character descriptions certainly. It should require an entire section to describe this. I feel this is warranted as this is an understated but crucial part of the plot and a unique situation of character development posed to the writers. 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