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class="subpages">< <bdi dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions" title="Wikidata:Requests for deletions">Wikidata:Requests for deletions</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="contentSub2"></div> <div id="jump-to-nav"></div> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#mw-head">Jump to navigation</a> <a class="mw-jump-link" href="#searchInput">Jump to search</a> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <div style="background-color:#eee; box-shadow:0 0 .2em #999; border-radius:.2em; padding:20px;"><b>This page shows all requests for deletions.</b></div> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Pages_tagged_with_{{Delete}}"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Pages tagged with {{Delete}}</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Properties"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Properties</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P4728"><span class="tocnumber">2.1</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P4728</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P5301"><span class="tocnumber">2.2</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P5301</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P7662"><span class="tocnumber">2.3</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P7662</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P1129"><span class="tocnumber">2.4</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P1129</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P2650"><span class="tocnumber">2.5</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P2650</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P4830"><span class="tocnumber">2.6</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P4830</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P5400"><span class="tocnumber">2.7</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P5400</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P6989"><span class="tocnumber">2.8</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P6989</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P2123"><span class="tocnumber">2.9</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P2123</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P3553"><span class="tocnumber">2.10</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P3553</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P8350"><span class="tocnumber">2.11</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P8350</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P4454"><span class="tocnumber">2.12</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P4454</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P2353"><span class="tocnumber">2.13</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P2353</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P8409"><span class="tocnumber">2.14</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P8409</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P842"><span class="tocnumber">2.15</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P842</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P7720"><span class="tocnumber">2.16</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P7720</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P4861"><span class="tocnumber">2.17</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P4861</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P4003"><span class="tocnumber">2.18</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P4003</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P10996"><span class="tocnumber">2.19</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P10996</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P3370"><span class="tocnumber">2.20</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P3370</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P9590"><span class="tocnumber">2.21</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P9590</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P10291"><span class="tocnumber">2.22</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P10291</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P10279"><span class="tocnumber">2.23</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P10279</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P12990"><span class="tocnumber">2.24</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P12990</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Property:P7456"><span class="tocnumber">2.25</span> <span class="toctext">Property:P7456</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Items"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Items</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="Pages_tagged_with_{{Delete}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pages_tagged_with_{{Delete}}"><span id="Pages_tagged_with_.7B.7BDelete.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pages_tagged_with_{{Delete}}"></span>Pages tagged with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Delete" title="Template:Delete">Delete</a>}}</code><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pages_tagged_with_{{Delete}}"></span></h1></div> <p><i>None at the moment</i> </p> <div class="CategoryTreeTag" data-ct-options="{"mode":20,"hideprefix":20,"showcount":false,"namespaces":false,"notranslations":false}"></div> <p><b><span class="noprint purgelink"><a href="/wiki/Special:Purge/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All" title="Special:Purge/Wikidata:Requests for deletions/All"><span title="Purge this page">Click here to purge</span></a></span> if this list is out of date.</b> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="Properties" data-mw-thread-id="h-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span>Properties<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span></h1></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900","replies":["c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"],"text":"Property:P4728","linkableTitle":"Property:P4728"}--><h2 id="Property:P4728" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4728" title="Property:P4728">Property:P4728</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900","replies":["c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728","timestamp":"20241124091900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4728-Properties-20241124091900","replies":["c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"],"text":"Property:P4728","linkableTitle":"Property:P4728"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P4728"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4728" title="Property:P4728"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"></span>uBio ID <small dir="ltr">(P4728)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4728&action=delete&wpReason=le+site+Ubio+est+ferm%C3%A9+depuis+de+nombreuses+ann%C3%A9es+suite+au+d%C3%A9c%C3%A8s+de+son+inventeur.+aujourd%27hui+l%27appel+de+cette+propri%C3%A9t%C3%A9+P4728+%28Ubio%29+propose+une+attente+attente+r%C3%A9seau+et+un+d%C3%A9passement+de+d%C3%A9lai...+Il+vaut+mieux+supprimer+toutes+ces+%C3%A9lements+et+leur+appel+possible+dans+tous+les+versions+linguistiques+%3A+le+fran%C3%A7ais+est+depuis+longtemps%2C+l%27anglais+est+demand%C3%A9.+Bonne+continuation%2C+bon+courage+et+merci+d%27avance.%0A%0Athe+Ubio+site+has+been+closed+for+many+years+following+the+death+of+its+inventor.+today+the+call+of+this+property+P4728+%28Ubio%29+offers+a+network+waiting+and+a+timeout...+It+is+better+to+remove+all+these+elements+and+their+possible+call+in+all+language+versions%3A+French+has+been+for+a+long+time%2C+English+is+requested.+Good+luck%2C+good+luck+and+thank+you+in+advance">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4728&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P4728?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4728&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP4728">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4728" title="Property talk:P4728">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Le site Ubio est fermé depuis de nombreuses années suite au décès de son inventeur. aujourd'hui l'appel de cette propriété P4728 (Ubio) propose une attente attente réseau et un dépassement de délai... Il vaut mieux supprimer toutes ces élements et leur appel possible dans tous les versions linguistiques : le français est depuis longtemps, l'anglais est demandé. Bonne continuation, bon courage et merci d'avance. </p><p>the Ubio site has been closed for many years following the death of its inventor. today the call of this property P4728 (Ubio) offers a network waiting and a timeout... It is better to remove all these elements and their possible call in all language versions: French has been for a long time, English is requested. Good luck, good luck and thank you in advance —<a href="/wiki/User:Philippe_rogez" title="User:Philippe rogez">Philippe rogez</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Philippe_rogez" title="User talk:Philippe rogez"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124091900","author":"Philippe rogez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Philippe_rogez-20241124091900-Property:P4728"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jean-Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301","c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1","c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301","c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301"],"text":"Property:P5301","linkableTitle":"Property:P5301"}--><h2 id="Property:P5301" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P5301" title="Property:P5301">Property:P5301</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jean-Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301","c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1","c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301","c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301","timestamp":"20231004194400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__11__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__7__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jean-Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P5301-Properties-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301","c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1","c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301","c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301"],"text":"Property:P5301","linkableTitle":"Property:P5301"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P5301"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P5301" title="Property:P5301"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301"></span>France Culture person ID (DEPRECATED) <small dir="ltr">(P5301)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5301&action=delete&wpReason=replaced+by+%5B%5BProperty%3AP10780%7CP10780%5D%5D">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5301&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P5301?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5301&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP5301">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P5301" title="Property talk:P5301">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Replaced by <a href="/wiki/Property:P10780" title="Property:P10780">P10780</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z","author":"Nomen ad hoc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301"></span> </p> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1"></span>VIGNERON</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Ash_Crow" title="User:Ash Crow">Ash Crow</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Tubezlob" title="User:Tubezlob">Tubezlob</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:PAC2" title="User:PAC2">PAC2</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Thierry_Caro" title="User:Thierry Caro">Thierry Caro</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pymouss" title="User:Pymouss">Pymouss</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Alphos" title="User:Alphos">Alphos</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:GAllegre" title="User:GAllegre">GAllegre</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Frédéric</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Manu1400" title="User:Manu1400">Manu1400</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Marianne_Casamance" title="User:Marianne Casamance">Marianne Casamance</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Nattes_%C3%A0_chat" title="User:Nattes à chat">Nattes à chat</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Pierre_Andr%C3%A9_Leclercq" title="User:Pierre André Leclercq">Pierre André</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bouzinac" title="User:Bouzinac">Bouzinac</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jsamwrites" title="User:Jsamwrites">Jsamwrites</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Baidax" title="User:Baidax">Baidax</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:LearnKnowGive1" title="User:LearnKnowGive1">LearnKnowGive1</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Mathieu_Kappler" title="User:Mathieu Kappler">Mathieu Kappler</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Daieuxetdailleurs" title="User:Daieuxetdailleurs">Daieuxetdailleurs</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Archives_nationales_DJI" title="User:Archives nationales DJI">Archives nationales DJI</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jmax" title="User:Jmax">Jmax</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:LearnKnowGive1" title="User:LearnKnowGive1">LearnKnowGive1</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Koxinga" title="User:Koxinga">Koxinga</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Maxime_Ravel" title="User:Maxime Ravel">Maxime</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Framawiki" title="User:Framawiki">Framawiki</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Legonin" title="User:Legonin">Legonin</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:R%C3%A9mi_sim" title="User:Rémi sim">Rémi sim</a></div><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_France/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject France/Participants">participants of WikiProject France</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z-Property:P5301-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z","author":"Nomen ad 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talk:Ki7sun3"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 22:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Battleofalma" title="User:Battleofalma">Battleofalma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Battleofalma" title="User talk:Battleofalma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 22:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Husky" title="User:Husky">Husky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Husky" title="User talk:Husky"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 23:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Fuzheado" title="User:Fuzheado">Fuzheado</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fuzheado" title="User talk:Fuzheado"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 02:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Ainali" title="User:Ainali">Ainali</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ainali" title="User talk:Ainali"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 06:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Informatom" title="User:Informatom">Informatom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Informatom" title="User talk:Informatom"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 07:48, 30 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Shisma" title="User:Shisma">Shisma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shisma" title="User talk:Shisma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 07:30, 30 October 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell" title="User talk:Richard Nevell"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 22:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Nickw25" title="User:Nickw25">Nickw25</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nickw25" title="User talk:Nickw25"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 07:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:ElanHR" title="User:ElanHR">ElanHR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElanHR" title="User talk:ElanHR"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 18:35, 8 November 2019 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Vahurzpu" title="User:Vahurzpu">Vahurzpu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vahurzpu" title="User talk:Vahurzpu"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 23:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Matlin" title="User:Matlin">Matlin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matlin" title="User talk:Matlin"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 09:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Arlo_Barnes" title="User:Arlo Barnes">Arlo Barnes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arlo_Barnes" title="User talk:Arlo Barnes"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 22:50, 21 May 2021 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e"><b> Blue Rasberry </b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluerasberry" title="User talk:Bluerasberry"><span style="cursor:help"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span></span></a> 16:16, 22 June 2021 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Mathieu_Kappler" title="User:Mathieu Kappler">Mathieu Kappler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathieu_Kappler" title="User talk:Mathieu Kappler"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 11:33, 6 September 2021 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Kristbaum" title="User:Kristbaum">Kristbaum</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kristbaum" title="User talk:Kristbaum"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 23:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Germartin1" title="User:Germartin1">Germartin1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Germartin1" title="User talk:Germartin1"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 16:53, 3 November 2021 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:RogueScholar" title="User:RogueScholar">RogueScholar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RogueScholar" title="User talk:RogueScholar"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 22:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Waldyrious" title="User:Waldyrious">Waldyrious</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Waldyrious" title="User talk:Waldyrious"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 12:04, 1 January 2023 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Trivialist" title="User:Trivialist">Trivialist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trivialist" title="User talk:Trivialist"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 02:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Back_ache" title="User:Back ache">Back ache</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Back_ache" title="User talk:Back ache"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 15:33, 22 September 2023 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Egon_Willighagen" title="User:Egon Willighagen">Egon Willighagen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Egon_Willighagen" title="User talk:Egon Willighagen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Jean-Frédéric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 13 January 2024 (UTC)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jrubashk" title="User:Jrubashk">User:Jrubashk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jrubashk" title="User talk:Jrubashk"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 9:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jean-Frédéric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Jean-Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jean-Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Jean-Fred"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jean-Frédéric-2019-10-29T22:13:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span></div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Podcasts/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Podcasts/Participants">participants of WikiProject Podcasts</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 27 May 2022 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z","author":"Nomen ad hoc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T09:17:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc"><bdi>Nomen ad hoc</bdi></a>: I do not understand why this is happening, and the property proposal likewise gives no explanation at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Radio_France_person_ID" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Radio France person ID">Wikidata:Property proposal/Radio France person ID</a>. If this deletion is to proceed can someone add an explanation to the original property proposal about why the new property was created to replace this one? <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e"><b> Bluerasberry </b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluerasberry" title="User talk:Bluerasberry"><span style="cursor:help"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 27 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z","author":"Bluerasberry","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-25T08:18:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><bdi>Bluerasberry</bdi></a>: it is extremely simple; IDs from this prop have been retrieved by the new prop (whose formatter URL has changed). <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 27 May 2022 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z","author":"Nomen ad hoc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2022-05-27T13:52:00.000Z-Bluerasberry-2022-05-27T12:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> : after, of course, migration of all the pages using this "old" property France Culture, to "new" property Radio France... Problem: a contributor of Wikidata is adding since some days this P5301 on many pages!... That will complicating the work of cleaning pages. Maybe a bot could be use to do that? --<a href="/wiki/User:YANN92340" title="User:YANN92340">YANN92340</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YANN92340" title="User talk:YANN92340"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 10 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230710141500","author":"YANN92340","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301","replies":["c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500","c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500","c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YANN92340-20230710141500-Property:P5301"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:YANN92340" title="User:YANN92340"><bdi>YANN92340 </bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc"><bdi>Nomen ad hoc</bdi></a>: Is it only fetching the 307 url used in P5301 to set P10780 according to the redirection? -<a href="/wiki/User:Framawiki" title="User:Framawiki">Framawiki (please notify !)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Framawiki" title="User talk:Framawiki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 13 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230713232000","author":"Framawiki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500","replies":[],"displayName":"Framawiki (please notify\u00a0!)"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Framawiki-20230713232000-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/18px-Symbol_wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/27px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/36px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Wait</b>: there are several entities where the URL given by this property does not work. Examples: <a href="/wiki/Q2897472" title="Q2897472">Bernard Baas <small>(Q2897472)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q68587627" title="Q68587627">Sophie Pujas <small>(Q68587627)</small></a>, see also <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Page_utilisant_P5301" class="extiw" title="fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant P5301">fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant P5301</a> (in each section <i>Liens externes</i>). I do not know how to migrate them ? <a href="/wiki/User:Eric-92" title="User:Eric-92">Eric-92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric-92" title="User talk:Eric-92"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 18 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230718004600","author":"Eric-92","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric-92-20230718004600-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span>The P5301 ID concerning Q2897472 (Bernard Baas) and Q68587627 (Sophie Pujas) have strictly no reasons to work: seems "fake ID", these people are not listed in the database! As you can see, they are not in <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.radiofrance.fr/personnes?startsWith=B">https://www.radiofrance.fr/personnes?startsWith=B</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.radiofrance.fr/personnes?startsWith=P&p=16">https://www.radiofrance.fr/personnes?startsWith=P&p=16</a>... --<a href="/wiki/User:YANN92340" title="User:YANN92340">YANN92340</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YANN92340" title="User talk:YANN92340"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 6 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230806100300","author":"YANN92340","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-YANN92340-20230806100300-YANN92340-20230710141500"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> I have imported the Radio France ID. In these cases, I deleted the obsolete identifiers. There are probably still some Radio France and France Culture identifiers (duplicate items, one with Radio France, the other with France Culture), but these cases should be rare. --<a href="/wiki/User:Hamuli" title="User:Hamuli">Hamuli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hamuli" title="User talk:Hamuli"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 4 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hamuli-20231004194400-Property:P5301"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P7662-Properties-20230804214900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Haansn08-20230804214900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7662-Properties-20230804214900","replies":["c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900","timestamp":"20241024233600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Haansn08-20230804214900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7662-Properties-20230804214900","replies":["c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662"],"text":"Property:P7662","linkableTitle":"Property:P7662"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P7662"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P7662" title="Property:P7662"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662"></span>Scilit journal ID <small dir="ltr">(P7662)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7662&action=delete&wpReason=The+source+website+does+not+keep+permanent+identifiers+for+journals.+After+a+website+update%2C+all+IDs+seem+to+have+changed.+All+%28%3F%29+IDs+in+Wikidata+seem+now+either+to+resolve+to+a+404+page+%28%5B%5BQ186776%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0AJournal+of+inorganic+and+general+chemistry+%3Csmall%3E%28Q186776%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+%5B%5BQ130945%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0AIntel+Technology+Journal+%3Csmall%3E%28Q130945%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+%5B%5BQ129122%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0AIEEE+Transactions+on+Mobile+Computing+%3Csmall%3E%28Q129122%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+...%29+or+refer+to+completely+different+entities+now+%28%5B%5BQ135122%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0ANucleic+Acids+Research+%3Csmall%3E%28Q135122%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+%5B%5BQ127755%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0AJournal+of+Chemometrics+%3Csmall%3E%28Q127755%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+%5B%5BQ59757%23P7662%7CScilit+journal+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall%3E%28P7662%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E+%3Cspan+id%3D%22of%22%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+dir%3D%22ltr%22+lang%3D%22en%22%3Eof%3C%2Fspan%3E%0AMicroscopy+Research+and+Technique+%3Csmall%3E%28Q59757%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+...%29.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7662&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P7662?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7662&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP7662">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P7662" title="Property talk:P7662">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The source website does not keep permanent identifiers for journals. After a website update, all IDs seem to have changed. All (?) IDs in Wikidata seem now either to resolve to a 404 page (<a href="/wiki/Q186776#P7662" title="Q186776">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> Journal of inorganic and general chemistry <small>(Q186776)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q130945#P7662" title="Q130945">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> Intel Technology Journal <small>(Q130945)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q129122#P7662" title="Q129122">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> IEEE Transactions on Mobile Computing <small>(Q129122)</small></a>, ...) or refer to completely different entities now (<a href="/wiki/Q135122#P7662" title="Q135122">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> Nucleic Acids Research <small>(Q135122)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q127755#P7662" title="Q127755">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> Journal of Chemometrics <small>(Q127755)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q59757#P7662" title="Q59757">Scilit journal ID <small>(P7662)</small> <span id="of"></span><span dir="ltr" lang="en">of</span> Microscopy Research and Technique <small>(Q59757)</small></a>, ...). </p><p>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Eihel" title="User:Eihel"><bdi>Eihel</bdi></a>: Ping as property creators. --<a href="/wiki/User:Haansn08" title="User:Haansn08">Haansn08</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Haansn08" title="User talk:Haansn08"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230804214900","author":"Haansn08","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662","replies":["c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900","c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900","c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haansn08-20230804214900-Property:P7662"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> The property was updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Blz_2049" title="User:Blz 2049">User:Blz 2049</a> with URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://app.scilit.net/sources/$1">https://app.scilit.net/sources/$1</a>. The identifiers simply need to be updated. In the example <a href="/wiki/Q15816386" title="Q15816386">International Journal of Climate Change Strategies and Management <small>(Q15816386)</small></a> of <a href="/wiki/Property:P7662" title="Property:P7662">Scilit journal ID <small dir="ltr">(P7662)</small></a>, the ID is no longer <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://app.scilit.net/sources/687103">687103</a>, but <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://app.scilit.net/sources/19668">19668</a>. So this property is fully operational, no need to delete it, <b>see <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15816386&diff=1946613559&oldid=1876981604">this</a></span></b>. Cordially. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Eihel" title="User:Eihel">Eihel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eihel" title="User talk:Eihel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230804231400","author":"Eihel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eihel-20230804231400-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Symbol_note.svg/20px-Symbol_note.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Symbol_note.svg/30px-Symbol_note.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Symbol_note.svg/40px-Symbol_note.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Info</b> <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P7662#different_journal_ID" title="Property talk:P7662">The problem has already been raised in May 2022</a>, and resolved. Cordially. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Eihel" title="User:Eihel">Eihel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eihel" title="User talk:Eihel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230804233500","author":"Eihel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900","replies":["c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eihel-20230804233500-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500"></span>Changing the formatter URL did not resolve the problem, as the IDs currently in Wikidata are still invalid with the new URL. <a href="/wiki/User:Haansn08" title="User:Haansn08">Haansn08</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Haansn08" title="User talk:Haansn08"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230814211200","author":"Haansn08","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Haansn08-20230814211200-Eihel-20230804233500"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b>. If the source doesn't bother to maintain persistence now, I don't see a reason to expect that they won't do this again. Further, with a changed formatter URL and changed values, I think it is best to see the new identifiers as an entirely new property rather than a modification of the existing property. We could create a new property for the new values, but given the threat to persistence, I think the onus is on advocates in this conversation to demonstrate why this property is useful enough to outweigh its potentially transient nature. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024233600","author":"Daask","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20241024233600-Haansn08-20230804214900"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yellowcard-20231010182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400","replies":["c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"],"text":"Property:P1129","linkableTitle":"Property:P1129"}--><h2 id="Property:P1129" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129">Property:P1129</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yellowcard-20231010182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400","replies":["c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200","timestamp":"20240827064800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Yellowcard-20231010182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P1129-Properties-20231010182400","replies":["c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"],"text":"Property:P1129","linkableTitle":"Property:P1129"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P1129"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"></span>national team appearances <small dir="ltr">(P1129)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P1129&action=delete&wpReason=We+have+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1350%7Cnumber+of+matches+played%2Fraces%2Fstarts%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1350%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+to+express+the+number+of+games+for+any+team+as+a+qualifier.+This+is+used+currently+more+than+700%2C000+times%2C+also+for+national+teams+%E2%80%93+as+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1350%7Cnumber+of+matches+played%2Fraces%2Fstarts%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1350%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+is+generic%2C+it+can+be+used+for+all+kinds+of+teams%2C+from+youth+teams+to+national+teams.+There+is+no+need+for+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1129%7Cnational+team+appearances%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1129%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+besides+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1350%7Cnumber+of+matches+played%2Fraces%2Fstarts%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1350%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+but+the+co-existence+and+mixture+creates+problems+when+using+the+data+outside+of+Wikidata.+Therefore%2C+I+propose+to+change+the+5%2C000+usages+of+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1129%7Cnational+team+appearances%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1129%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+to+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1350%7Cnumber+of+matches+played%2Fraces%2Fstarts%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1350%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+and+then+delete+%5B%5BProperty%3AP1129%7Cnational+team+appearances%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P1129%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P1129&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P1129?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P1129&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP1129">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1129" title="Property talk:P1129">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>We have <a href="/wiki/Property:P1350" title="Property:P1350">number of matches played/races/starts <small dir="ltr">(P1350)</small></a> to express the number of games for any team as a qualifier. This is used currently more than 700,000 times, also for national teams – as <a href="/wiki/Property:P1350" title="Property:P1350">number of matches played/races/starts <small dir="ltr">(P1350)</small></a> is generic, it can be used for all kinds of teams, from youth teams to national teams. There is no need for <a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129">national team appearances <small dir="ltr">(P1129)</small></a> besides <a href="/wiki/Property:P1350" title="Property:P1350">number of matches played/races/starts <small dir="ltr">(P1350)</small></a>, but the co-existence and mixture creates problems when using the data outside of Wikidata. Therefore, I propose to change the 5,000 usages of <a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129">national team appearances <small dir="ltr">(P1129)</small></a> to <a href="/wiki/Property:P1350" title="Property:P1350">number of matches played/races/starts <small dir="ltr">(P1350)</small></a> and then delete <a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129">national team appearances <small dir="ltr">(P1129)</small></a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Yellowcard" title="User:Yellowcard">Yellowcard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yellowcard" title="User talk:Yellowcard"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 10 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231010182400","author":"Yellowcard","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129","replies":["c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400","c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yellowcard-20231010182400-Property:P1129"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> This has bugged me for a long time as well. I see no reason to make a difference between games played for a national team and games played for a club. <a href="/wiki/User:Jssfrk" title="User:Jssfrk">Jssfrk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jssfrk" title="User talk:Jssfrk"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240609210000","author":"Jssfrk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jssfrk-20240609210000-Yellowcard-20231010182400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400"></span>As a national player in my sport, I have to say that these are two different issues. Take the example of today's announcement that Manuel Neuer, the German goalkeeper, has retired as a national player after 124 games for Germany (which is a record call-up to the German national soccer team). In many sports codes, it is common to count the number of national team caps, and it is often shown in the Wikipedia info box.</dd> <dd>Please consider this. Tank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Detlef_Pfeifer" title="User:Detlef Pfeifer">Detlef Pfeifer</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Detlef_Pfeifer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Detlef Pfeifer (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 22 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240822153200","author":"Detlef Pfeifer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400","replies":["c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200-Yellowcard-20231010182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200"></span>We have been doing this in the German Wikipedia for a long time. That is exactly what qualifiers are for. You do not need a separate property for doing that. See <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Wikipedia:Infobox_Fu%C3%9Fballspieler_mit_Daten_aus_Wikidata" class="extiw" title="de:Kategorie:Wikipedia:Infobox Fußballspieler mit Daten aus Wikidata">de:Kategorie:Wikipedia:Infobox Fußballspieler mit Daten aus Wikidata</a> for a list of the players with infobox data from Wikidata, many of them are national players and have their numbers of national games in the infobox as well. From a technical point of view, there is no real difference to show the appearances in the several clubs the player played for, and the (maybe several) national team(s). Random example: <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasheedat_Ajibade" class="extiw" title="de:Rasheedat Ajibade">de:Rasheedat Ajibade</a>. In <a href="/wiki/Q50082738" title="Q50082738">Rasheedat Ajibade <small>(Q50082738)</small></a> you will see that <a href="/wiki/Property:P1129" title="Property:P1129">national team appearances <small dir="ltr">(P1129)</small></a> was not used or needed here, but we are showing his appearances for the Nigerian national team as well as his club appearances. All this information comes from Wikidata. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Yellowcard" title="User:Yellowcard">Yellowcard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yellowcard" title="User talk:Yellowcard"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240827064800","author":"Yellowcard","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yellowcard-20240827064800-Detlef_Pfeifer-20240822153200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000","replies":["c-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650","c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650","c-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700-Property:P2650"],"text":"Property:P2650","linkableTitle":"Property:P2650"}--><h2 id="Property:P2650" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2650" title="Property:P2650">Property:P2650</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000","replies":["c-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650","c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650","c-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700-Property:P2650"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nw520-20241126100500-Powerek38-20241126095500","timestamp":"20241126100500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__9__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2650-Properties-20231025192000","replies":["c-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650","c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650","c-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700-Property:P2650"],"text":"Property:P2650","linkableTitle":"Property:P2650"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P2650"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2650" title="Property:P2650"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Epìdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650"></span>interested in <small dir="ltr">(P2650)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2650&action=delete&wpReason=This+is+a+follow-up+of+%5B%5BWikidata%3AProject_chat%2FArchive%2F2023%2F10%23Interested_in_vs._Field_of_work%5D%5D+%28opened+by+%40%5B%5BUser%3ADaask%7C%3Cbdi%3EDaask%3C%2Fbdi%3E%5D%5D%3A+on+18+October%29%3A+as+argumented+by+many+users+there%2C+the+difference+between+%5B%5BProperty%3AP2650%7Cinterested+in%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P2650%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+%28with+17k+uses+in+main+statements%29+and+the+older+%5B%5BProperty%3AP101%7Cfield+of+work%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P101%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+%28with+938k+uses+in+main+statements%29+is+not+clear+enough%3B+whilst+it+has+been+said+that+P101+is+for+professional+areas+and+P2650+for+non-professional+areas%2C+it+seems+that+presently+both+properties+have+been+used+for+both+fields%2C+and+there+is+a+high+probability+that+this+confusion+will+worsen+in+the+future%3B+thus%2C+following+the+proposal+of+%40%5B%5BUser%3AVojt%C4%9Bch+Dost%C3%A1l%7C%3Cbdi%3EVojt%C4%9Bch+Dost%C3%A1l%3C%2Fbdi%3E%5D%5D%3A%2C+I+agree+that+we+can+%22merge+the+duplicates+and+start+a+new+proposal+if+required+for+some+other+%28or+perhaps+the+originally+intended%29+use+case%22.+So+I%27m+proposing+to+delete+P2650%2C+bot-transferring+all+its+values+to+P101%3B+I%27m+not+fully+convinced+that+we+need+another+property+besides+P101%2C+but+if+someone+wants+to+propose+it+in+the+future%2C+this+deletion+wouldn%27t+hinder+them+from+doing+it.+Otherwise%2C+if+we+choose+not+to+delete+P2650%2C+I+think+we+need+to+1%29+state+much+more+clearly+how+it+differs+from+P101+and+2%29+find+effective+methods+to+move+wrong+uses+of+P2650+to+P101+and+viceversa+%28note%3A+wrong+according+to+the+clearer+definition+of+P2650+foreshadowed+at+point+1%29.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2650&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P2650?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2650&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP2650">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2650" title="Property talk:P2650">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>This is a follow-up of <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Interested_in_vs._Field_of_work" title="Wikidata:Project chat">Wikidata:Project chat#Interested in vs. Field of work</a> (opened by @<a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask"><bdi>Daask</bdi></a>: on 18 October): as argumented by many users there, the difference between <a href="/wiki/Property:P2650" title="Property:P2650">interested in <small dir="ltr">(P2650)</small></a> (with 17k uses in main statements) and the older <a href="/wiki/Property:P101" title="Property:P101">field of work <small dir="ltr">(P101)</small></a> (with 938k uses in main statements) is not clear enough; whilst it has been said that P101 is for professional areas and P2650 for non-professional areas, it seems that presently both properties have been used for both fields, and there is a high probability that this confusion will worsen in the future; thus, following the proposal of @<a href="/wiki/User:Vojt%C4%9Bch_Dost%C3%A1l" title="User:Vojtěch Dostál"><bdi>Vojtěch Dostál</bdi></a>:, I agree that we can "merge the duplicates and start a new proposal if required for some other (or perhaps the originally intended) use case". So I'm proposing to delete P2650, bot-transferring all its values to P101; I'm not fully convinced that we need another property besides P101, but if someone wants to propose it in the future, this deletion wouldn't hinder them from doing it. Otherwise, if we choose not to delete P2650, I think we need to 1) state much more clearly how it differs from P101 and 2) find effective methods to move wrong uses of P2650 to P101 and viceversa (note: wrong according to the clearer definition of P2650 foreshadowed at point 1). —<a href="/wiki/User:Ep%C3%ACdosis" title="User:Epìdosis"><b>Epì</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ep%C3%ACdosis" title="User talk:Epìdosis"><span style="color:green"><b>dosis</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Epìdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Epìdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231025192000","author":"Ep\u00ecdosis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650","replies":["c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000"],"displayName":"Ep\u00ec"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Epìdosis-20231025192000-Property:P2650"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Epìdosis-20231025192000"></span>There is possible merit in it for people's hobbies (as was argued for fictional characters where <a href="/wiki/Property:P101" title="Property:P101">field of work <small dir="ltr">(P101)</small></a> read oddly), but I can see no merit for organisations, all uses there should be transferred. <a href="/wiki/User:Vicarage" title="User:Vicarage">Vicarage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vicarage" title="User talk:Vicarage"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Epìdosis-20231025192000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Epìdosis-20231025192000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231025212300","author":"Vicarage","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","replies":["c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vicarage-20231025212300-Epìdosis-20231025192000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300"></span>That's how I used it, because "field of work" sounded a bit odd for something that is usually seen as an opposite to work. If it had "hobby" (<a href="/wiki/Property:P106" title="Property:P106">occupation <small dir="ltr">(P106)</small></a> comes up for this in a search because of a French alias) or "pastime" as an alias that might make me more confident in using it. <a href="/wiki/User:GreenReaper" title="User:GreenReaper">GreenReaper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenReaper" title="User talk:GreenReaper"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240605203800","author":"GreenReaper","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenReaper-20240605203800-Vicarage-20231025212300"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Epìdosis-20231025192000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/GA_candidate.svg/15px-GA_candidate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/GA_candidate.svg/23px-GA_candidate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/GA_candidate.svg/30px-GA_candidate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="183" data-file-height="196"/></span></span> <b><span lang="en">Weak support</span></b> P2650 is hardly used at all in the arts domain (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/8LzL">artists with P2650</a>). P2650 does not meet any need in this domain that P101 or <a href="/wiki/Property:P941" title="Property:P941">inspired by <small dir="ltr">(P941)</small></a> cannot meet. But I cannot speak for other domains... <a href="/wiki/User:Fjjulien" title="User:Fjjulien">Fjjulien</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fjjulien" title="User talk:Fjjulien"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Epìdosis-20231025192000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Epìdosis-20231025192000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231201195700","author":"Fjjulien","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Ep\u00ecdosis-20231025192000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fjjulien-20231201195700-Epìdosis-20231025192000"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650"></span>Before deletion we need an analysis of the current uses so we can inform people. Since it was originally proposed for WikiProjects I assume it was in use for a few, but could never have been many, because I would have seen it pop up in the proposal discussions for <a href="/wiki/Property:P5008" title="Property:P5008">on focus list of Wikimedia project <small dir="ltr">(P5008)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231027083600","author":"Jane023","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650","replies":["c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jane023-20231027083600-Property:P2650"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023"><bdi>Jane023</bdi></a>: A quick SPARQL query indicates that it is currently in use on <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ16695773.%20%23%20Is%20a%20WikiProject%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP2650%20%3Finterest.%20%23%20Has%20a%20claim%20about%20interest%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%20%23%20Helps%20get%20the%20label%20in%20your%20language%2C%20if%20not%2C%20then%20en%20language%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%23%20Only%20list%20once%20WikiProjects%20with%20more%20than%20one%20interest%0A">18 WikiProject items</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231027134300","author":"Daask","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600","replies":["c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20231027134300-Jane023-20231027083600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300"></span>Thanks! It's interesting to see the minimal information for such projects on Wikidata - the first page I looked at, <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Moravian_Knowledge_Network_Research" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Moravian Knowledge Network Research">Wikidata:WikiProject Moravian Knowledge Network Research</a>, doesn't even point to any external site in the wikiverrse or otherwise. It's probably a good idea to start a larger campaign to clean this up. <a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jane023" title="User talk:Jane023"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231027141100","author":"Jane023","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jane023-20231027141100-Daask-20231027134300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700-Property:P2650"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Move all uses to P101 and delete.<a href="/wiki/User:Vojt%C4%9Bch_Dost%C3%A1l" title="User:Vojtěch Dostál">Vojtěch Dostál</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vojt%C4%9Bch_Dost%C3%A1l" title="User talk:Vojtěch Dostál"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700-Property:P2650" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 25 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700-Property:P2650"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240625124700","author":"Vojt\u011bch Dost\u00e1l","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700-Property:P2650","replies":["c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700-Property:P2650"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I totally agree with all that's been said above about confusion with P101. <a href="/wiki/User:Powerek38" title="User:Powerek38">Powerek38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Powerek38" title="User talk:Powerek38"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241126095500","author":"Powerek38","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojt\u011bch_Dost\u00e1l-20240625124700","replies":["c-Nw520-20241126100500-Powerek38-20241126095500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Powerek38-20241126095500-Vojtěch_Dostál-20240625124700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nw520-20241126100500-Powerek38-20241126095500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Agree with everything said. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nw520" title="User:Nw520">Nw520</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nw520" title="User talk:Nw520"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nw520-20241126100500-Powerek38-20241126095500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P4830-Properties-20231024185300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P4830-Properties-20231024185300"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4830" title="Property:P4830">Property:P4830</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P4830-Properties-20231024185300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nordprinz-20231024185300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4830-Properties-20231024185300","replies":["c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Ameisenigel-20240707122700-Nordprinz-20231024185300","timestamp":"20240707122700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nordprinz-20231024185300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4830-Properties-20231024185300","replies":["c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830"],"text":"Property:P4830","linkableTitle":"Property:P4830"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P4830"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4830" title="Property:P4830"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830"></span>SvFF national player ID (archived) <small dir="ltr">(P4830)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4830&action=delete&wpReason=branches+only+to+the+archive+version+of+the+database%2C+for+running+url+there+is+Schwedische+Fu%C3%9Fballassoziation+ID+%28P1238%29%2C+see+%5B%5BProperty_talk%3AP4830%5D%5D+without+an+answer%3B+verzweigt+nur+auf+die+Archivversion+der+Datenbank%2C+f%C3%BCr+laufende+url+gibt+es++Schwedische+Fu%C3%9Fballassoziation+ID+%28P1238%29%2C+siehe+%5B%5BProperty_talk%3AP4830%5D%5D+ohne+Antwort">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4830&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P4830?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4830&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP4830">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4830" title="Property talk:P4830">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Branches only to the archive version of the database, for running url there is Schwedische Fußballassoziation ID (P1238), see <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4830" title="Property talk:P4830">Property_talk:P4830</a> without an answer; verzweigt nur auf die Archivversion der Datenbank, für laufende url gibt es Schwedische Fußballassoziation ID (P1238), siehe <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4830" title="Property talk:P4830">Property_talk:P4830</a> ohne Antwort --<a href="/wiki/User:Nordprinz" title="User:Nordprinz">Nordprinz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nordprinz" title="User talk:Nordprinz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231024185300","author":"Nordprinz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830","replies":["c-Ameisenigel-20240707122700-Nordprinz-20231024185300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nordprinz-20231024185300-Property:P4830"></span> </p> <dl><dd><div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Ainali" title="User:Ainali"><span title="user page of Ainali"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ameisenigel-20240707122700-Nordprinz-20231024185300"></span>Ainali</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Belteshassar" title="User:Belteshassar"><span title="user page of Belteshassar">Belteshassar</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:So9q" title="User:So9q"><span title="user page of so9q">so9q</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:V%C3%A4tte" title="User:Vätte"><span title="user page of Vätte">Vätte</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Popperipopp" title="User:Popperipopp"><span title="user page of Popperipopp">Popperipopp</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Tulipasylvestris" title="User:Tulipasylvestris"><span title="user page of Tulipasylvestris">Tulipasylvestris</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Esquilo" title="User:Esquilo"><span title="user page of Esquilo">Esquilo</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen"><span title="user page of Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</span></a> — with focus on topics related to <a href="/wiki/Q42240" title="Q42240">research <small>(Q42240)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User:VisbyStar" title="User:VisbyStar"><span title="user page of VisbyStar">VisbyStar</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Haxpett" title="User:Haxpett"><span title="user page of Haxpett">Haxpett</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:QubeCube" title="User:QubeCube"><span title="user page of QubeCube">QubeCube</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Marcus.linneberg" title="User:Marcus.linneberg"><span title="user page of Marcus.linneberg">Marcus.linneberg</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Vitplister" title="User:Vitplister"><span title="user page of Vitplister">Vitplister</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spisen" title="User:Spisen"><span title="user page of Spisen">Spisen</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sollentuna" title="User:Sollentuna"><span title="user page of Sollentuna">Sollentuna</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Myohmy671" title="User:Myohmy671"><span title="user page of Myohmy671">Myohmy671</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Autom" title="User:Autom"><span title="user page of Autom">Autom</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:S4b1nuz_E.656" title="User:S4b1nuz E.656"><span title="user page of S4b1nuz E.656">S4b1nuz E.656</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User:JoranL" title="User:JoranL"><span title="user page of JoranL">JoranL</span></a> </div><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Sweden/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Sweden/Participants">participants of WikiProject Sweden</a> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:WaitingForConnection" class="mw-redirect" title="User:WaitingForConnection">WFC</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Fawkesfr" title="User:Fawkesfr">Fawkesfr</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:A.Bernhard" title="User:A.Bernhard">A.Bernhard</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Cekli829" title="User:Cekli829">Cekli829</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Japan_Football" title="User:Japan Football">Japan Football</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:HakanIST" title="User:HakanIST">HakanIST</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Jmmuguerza" title="User:Jmmuguerza">Jmmuguerza</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:H4stings" title="User:H4stings">H4stings</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Unnited_meta" title="User:Unnited meta">Unnited meta</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Grottem" title="User:Grottem">Grottem</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Petro" title="User:Petro">Petro</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%A1%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%B8%D0%B7_%D0%9F%D0%A2%D0%A3" title="User:Сидик из ПТУ">Сидик из ПТУ</a><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sakhalinio&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sakhalinio (page does not exist)">Sakhalinio</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Gonta-Kun" title="User:Gonta-Kun">Gonta-Kun</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:CanadianCodhead" title="User:CanadianCodhead">CanadianCodhead</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Laszaroh" title="User:Laszaroh">Laszaroh</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Sherifkkvtm" title="User:Sherifkkvtm">Sherifkkvtm</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Nicholas_Gemini" title="User:Nicholas Gemini">Nicholas Gemini</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:MythsOfAesop" title="User:MythsOfAesop">MythsOfAesop</a><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Bal%C3%BB" title="User:Balû">Balû</a><br/></div><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Association_football/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Association football/Participants">participants of WikiProject Association football</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Ameisenigel" title="User:Ameisenigel">Ameisenigel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ameisenigel" title="User talk:Ameisenigel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Ameisenigel-20240707122700-Nordprinz-20231024185300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ameisenigel-20240707122700-Nordprinz-20231024185300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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href="/wiki/Property:P5400" title="Property:P5400">Property:P5400</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P5400-Properties-20231105101400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Likibp-20231105101400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P5400-Properties-20231105101400","replies":["c-Likibp-20231105101400-Property:P5400"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jonathan_Gro\u00df-20231122200000-Likibp-20231105101400","timestamp":"20231122200000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Likibp-20231105101400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P5400-Properties-20231105101400","replies":["c-Likibp-20231105101400-Property:P5400"],"text":"Property:P5400","linkableTitle":"Property:P5400"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P5400"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P5400" title="Property:P5400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Likibp-20231105101400-Property:P5400"></span>GeoNLP ID (obsolete) <small dir="ltr">(P5400)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5400&action=delete&wpReason=Following+the+upgrade+of+GeoNLP+to+version+2.0+on+July+8%2C+2021%2C+the+existing+GeoNLP+IDs+have+been+invalidated+and+replaced+with+new+identifiers+called+GeoLOD+IDs.+Due+to+the+lack+of+compatibility+between+GeoNLP+IDs+and+GeoLOD+IDs%2C+which+no+longer+function+as+identifiers+for+the+same+entities%2C+it+is+necessary+to+delete+the+GeoNLP+ID+property+from+Wikidata+and+create+a+new+property+corresponding+to+GeoLOD+IDs.+This+request+is+based+on+official+announcements+from+GeoNLP+%28%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fagora.ex.nii.ac.jp%2FGeoNLP%2Fnews%2F%2320210708+%27Release+of+GeoNLP+Version+2.0%27%5D+and+%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fagora.ex.nii.ac.jp%2FGeoNLP%2Fnews%2F%2320200722+%27About+the+major+renewal+of+GeoNLP%27%5D%29.+Therefore%2C+I+request+the+deletion+of+the+GeoNLP+ID+property.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5400&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P5400?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P5400&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP5400">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P5400" title="Property talk:P5400">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Following the upgrade of GeoNLP to version 2.0 on July 8, 2021, the existing GeoNLP IDs have been invalidated and replaced with new identifiers called GeoLOD IDs. Due to the lack of compatibility between GeoNLP IDs and GeoLOD IDs, which no longer function as identifiers for the same entities, it is necessary to delete the GeoNLP ID property from Wikidata and create a new property corresponding to GeoLOD IDs. This request is based on official announcements from GeoNLP (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/GeoNLP/news/#20210708">'Release of GeoNLP Version 2.0'</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/GeoNLP/news/#20200722">'About the major renewal of GeoNLP'</a>). Therefore, I request the deletion of the GeoNLP ID property. —<a href="/wiki/User:Likibp" title="User:Likibp">Likibp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Likibp" title="User talk:Likibp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Likibp-20231105101400-Property:P5400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Likibp-20231105101400-Property:P5400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathan_Groß-20231122200000-Likibp-20231105101400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231122200000","author":"Jonathan Gro\u00df","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jonathan_Gro\u00df-20231122200000-Likibp-20231105101400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonathan_Groß-20231122200000-Likibp-20231105101400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pallor-20231128182100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100","replies":["c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"],"text":"Property:P6989","linkableTitle":"Property:P6989"}--><h2 id="Property:P6989" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P6989" title="Property:P6989">Property:P6989</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pallor-20231128182100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100","replies":["c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Pallor-20240317214300-M\u00e1t\u00e9-20240128205100","timestamp":"20240317214300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Pallor-20231128182100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P6989-Properties-20231128182100","replies":["c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"],"text":"Property:P6989","linkableTitle":"Property:P6989"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P6989"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P6989" title="Property:P6989"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"></span>Hungarian National Namespace organisation ID (old) <small dir="ltr">(P6989)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P6989&action=delete&wpReason=The+property+IDs+and+the+formatting+URL+have+also+changed.+A+new+property+%28%5B%5BProperty%3AP11685%7CHungarian+National+Namespace+organisation+ID+%28new%29%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P11685%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%29+was+created%2C+which+was+added+to+all+old+%28P6989%29+data+with+the+new+identifier.+This+property+is+deprecated+and+can+be+deleted.+%28Control+query%3A+%5Bhttps%3A%2F%2Fw.wiki%2F8JmT+https%3A%2F%2Fw.wiki%2F8JmT%5D%29">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P6989&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P6989?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P6989&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP6989">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P6989" title="Property talk:P6989">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The property IDs and the formatting URL have also changed. A new property (<a href="/wiki/Property:P11685" title="Property:P11685">Hungarian National Namespace organisation ID (new) <small dir="ltr">(P11685)</small></a>) was created, which was added to all old (P6989) data with the new identifier. This property is deprecated and can be deleted. (Control query: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/8JmT">https://w.wiki/8JmT</a>) —<a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231128182100","author":"Pallor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989","replies":["c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100","c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20231128182100-Property:P6989"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> It is still valuable information. While the official website (abcd.hu) is no longer available, these statements can still help match IDs found elsewhere to Wikidata items (and through them, even to new MNN IDs). —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231202151600","author":"Tacsipacsi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202151600-Pallor-20231128182100"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100"></span>Tacsipacsi</a> Can you list the data that is available on the old form with the old ID but not on the new ABCD? (otherwise the abcd.hu site is available). So what data would be lost if we delete the identifier? <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231202172500","author":"Pallor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100","replies":["c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20231202172500-Pallor-20231128182100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor"><bdi>Pallor</bdi></a>: What we would lose is the fact that the MNN ID of the <a href="/wiki/Q648716" title="Q648716">National Assembly <small>(Q648716)</small></a> using the old scheme is 204006. External identifiers are pieces of information themselves, not only references for other pieces of information. It may happen that third-party data reusers (or even ourselves) find a reference to an organization that uses this old scheme. Removing these statements would make it impossible to process that reference (at least without digging into item histories, which is probably not something one would want to do or want to write a program for). —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231202195500","author":"Tacsipacsi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500","replies":["c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500-Pallor-20231202172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi"><bdi>Tacsipacsi</bdi></a>: By this argument, I think we could completely eliminate the deletion of external IDs for property IDs, since you argue that, whatever the topic, each ID carries information. But the practice is not: if the IDs do not lead to information that would be lost without them, then feel free to delete them. And these IDs do not carry any information, since everything that was on the page accessed with the previous ID is also on the page accessed with the new ID. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231202220300","author":"Pallor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500","replies":["c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20231202220300-Tacsipacsi-20231202195500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300"></span>Indeed, I generally don’t agree with the deletion of external ID properties unless creating them has never been a good idea (e.g. it is, and has always been, totally useless), or for technical reasons (including cases when a new property was created after a schema change for technical reasons, but the old ID can be algorithmically determined from the new one). I may be in minority with this opinion, though; if the vast majority of users who comment in this discussion are in favor of the deletion, I’ll accept the community decision. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231203012600","author":"Tacsipacsi","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300","replies":["c-M\u00e1t\u00e9-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600-Pallor-20231202220300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Máté-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600"></span>I second all that Tacsipacsi wrote. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b>! I don't see the value in deleting defunct IDs either. – <a href="/wiki/User:M%C3%A1t%C3%A9" title="User:Máté">Máté</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M%C3%A1t%C3%A9" title="User talk:Máté"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Máté-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Máté-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240128205100","author":"M\u00e1t\u00e9","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-M\u00e1t\u00e9-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600","replies":["c-Pallor-20240317214300-M\u00e1t\u00e9-20240128205100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Máté-20240128205100-Tacsipacsi-20231203012600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240317214300-Máté-20240128205100"></span>Both opinions represent a point of view that could be added to virtually all properties for deletion ("keep it because it's valuable"), but they don't explain what the value is in an unused and unrecoverable identifier. Such a belief essentially makes cancellation discussions impossible, since it is too general and elusive to be considered as an argument and to respond to it in a meaningful way.</dd> <dd>As additional information, I describe that the database currently consists of 62,060 items, of which 35 items have been transferred to Wikidata. No data can be read back from any of them, on the other hand, the new identifier makes all data available. I still maintain my deletion proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Pallor-20240317214300-Máté-20240128205100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240317214300-Máté-20240128205100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240317214300","author":"Pallor","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Pallor-20240317214300-M\u00e1t\u00e9-20240128205100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240317214300-Máté-20240128205100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sadrettin-20231203153400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400","replies":["c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"],"text":"Property:P2123","linkableTitle":"Property:P2123"}--><h2 id="Property:P2123" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2123" title="Property:P2123">Property:P2123</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sadrettin-20231203153400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400","replies":["c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400","timestamp":"20241031090900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__11__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__9__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sadrettin-20231203153400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2123-Properties-20231203153400","replies":["c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"],"text":"Property:P2123","linkableTitle":"Property:P2123"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P2123"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2123" title="Property:P2123"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"></span>YerelNet village ID <small dir="ltr">(P2123)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2123&action=delete&wpReason=Localnet+website+was+a+government-supported+website+in+Turkey.+There+was+an+identifier+id+for+every+village+in+Turkey+and+it+had+an+index+about+all+villages.+However%2C+this+project+was+terminated+by+a+law+in+2018.+The+domain+name+of+the+site+%28https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yerelnet.org.tr%29+is+currently+used+for+personal+purposes+and+the+site+does+not+currently+serve+as+a+database.+Also%2C+all+id+numbers+added+to+wikidata+pages+are+%3Cu%3Ecurrently+not+working.%3C%2Fu%3E%0AFor+these+reasons%2C+it+would+be+appropriate+to+delete+%5B%5BProperty%3AP2123%5D%5D.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2123&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P2123?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2123&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP2123">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2123" title="Property talk:P2123">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Yerelnet website was a government-supported website in Turkey. There was an identifier id for every village in Turkey and it had an index about all villages. However, this project was terminated by a law in 2018. The domain name of the site (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.yerelnet.org.tr">https://www.yerelnet.org.tr</a>) is currently used for personal purposes and the site does not currently serve as a database. Also, all id numbers added to wikidata pages are <u>currently not working.</u> For these reasons, it would be appropriate to delete <a href="/wiki/Property:P2123" title="Property:P2123">Property:P2123</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Sadrettin" title="User:Sadrettin">Sadrettin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadrettin" title="User talk:Sadrettin"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231203153400","author":"Sadrettin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123","replies":["c-Merey\u00fc-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-W\u00fcstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400","c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadrettin-20231203153400-Property:P2123"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mereyü-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> It seems that this site is currently not working. It is better to make it stop. <a href="/wiki/User:Merey%C3%BC" title="User:Mereyü"><span style="color:#009999;font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:17px">Mereyü</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Merey%C3%BC" title="User talk:Mereyü">💬</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Merey%C3%BC" title="Special:EmailUser/Mereyü">✉️</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Mereyü-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mereyü-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231203160600","author":"Merey\u00fc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Merey\u00fc-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":["c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Merey\u00fc-20231203160600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mereyü-20231203160600-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Mereyü-20231203160600"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> Right. Yerelnet is not working anymore. We don't need this property. --<span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 7px;background: #00B4C6;"><a href="/wiki/User:Kurmanbek" title="User:Kurmanbek"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Kurmanbek</b></span></a></span> <sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kurmanbek&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kurmanbek (page does not exist)">💬</a></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Mereyü-20231203160600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Mereyü-20231203160600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231206162300","author":"Kurmanbek","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Merey\u00fc-20231203160600","replies":["c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kurmanbek-20231206162300-Mereyü-20231203160600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sadrettin" title="User:Sadrettin"><bdi>Sadrettin</bdi></a>: Have you exported the current IDs (for historical purposes)?--<a href="/wiki/User:Geverkshaft" title="User:Geverkshaft">Geverkshaft</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Geverkshaft&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Geverkshaft (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231217101800","author":"Geverkshaft","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geverkshaft-20231217101800-Kurmanbek-20231206162300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> Looks reasonable. <a href="/wiki/User:Nanahuatl" title="User:Nanahuatl">Nanahuatl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nanahuatl" title="User talk:Nanahuatl"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231227185400","author":"Nanahuatl","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nanahuatl-20231227185400-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> for now, as it's the only way to find villages (or places that were villages until recently) in a district (although now several years out of date). Many have been archived or included in an archived list from which the identifier can be found. It was mostly accurate, although because places could be added it had a few (around 5-10) additions that were not part of the data originally added to the site that were probably neighbourhoods or other locations (although I'm not sure if any of these are in Wikidata). Otherwise the P31 can be vague (<a href="/wiki/Q1155400" title="Q1155400">Erikli <small>(Q1155400)</small></a> for example, which otherwise only has a GeoNames ID). <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/T%C3%BCik_number" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Tüik number">Wikidata:Property proposal/Tüik number</a> needs proposing as separate properties, including one for village; when approved and added to items, it can replace this. <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_James" title="User:Peter James">Peter James</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_James" title="User talk:Peter James"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240204210300","author":"Peter James","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_James-20240204210300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span>I also noticed most instances of <a href="/wiki/Q17051044" title="Q17051044">mahalle <small>(Q17051044)</small></a> were changed to <a href="/wiki/Q123705" title="Q123705">neighborhood <small>(Q123705)</small></a> (which seems incorrect, as is the statement that Q123705 is a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q15617994" title="Q15617994">administrative territorial entity type <small>(Q15617994)</small></a> - and in most countries Q123705 isn't an instance of that either). Instances of <a href="/wiki/Q1529096" title="Q1529096">village in Turkey <small>(Q1529096)</small></a> would then become <a href="/wiki/Q532" title="Q532">village <small>(Q532)</small></a> to be consistent, although I prefer more specific administrative units for Wikidata - at least make it clear whether something is an administrative unit or not. Adding statements such as that in Q123705 (or <a href="/wiki/Q2983893" title="Q2983893">quarter <small>(Q2983893)</small></a>, where the claim to be a subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q56061" title="Q56061">administrative territorial entity <small>(Q56061)</small></a> is wrong in some countries and conflicts with the description) is not the correct way to clarify this, or to fix constraint violations, or whatever was intended. <a href="/wiki/User:Peter_James" title="User:Peter James">Peter James</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_James" title="User talk:Peter James"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240218013800","author":"Peter James","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":["c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter_James-20240218013800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800"></span>YerelNet links were added years ago and the website closed 8 years ago. If you believe that you can rely on these links and find villages in Turkey, this list will be very incomplete. Frankly, I can't find a single concrete benefit for not deleting YerelNet connections. <a href="/wiki/User:Sadrettin" title="User:Sadrettin">Sadrettin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadrettin" title="User talk:Sadrettin"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240617191800","author":"Sadrettin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadrettin-20240617191800-Peter_James-20240218013800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> per nom. --<a href="/wiki/User:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User:Wüstenspringmaus"><span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:W%C3%BCstenspringmaus" title="User talk:Wüstenspringmaus"><i>talk</i></a></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240603114800","author":"W\u00fcstenspringmaus","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-W\u00fcstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wüstenspringmaus-20240603114800-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> The Wayback Machine has over 35,000 archived pages (see IDs starting with <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.yerelnet.org.tr/koyler/koy.php%3Fkoyid=23*">23</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.yerelnet.org.tr/koyler/koy.php%3Fkoyid=24*">24</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.yerelnet.org.tr/koyler/koy.php%3Fkoyid=25*">25</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.yerelnet.org.tr/koyler/koy.php%3Fkoyid=26*">26</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.yerelnet.org.tr/koyler/koy.php%3Fkoyid=3*">3</a>). We have 35,691 IDs, so almost all of them should have an archived version.</dd> <dd>The pages I looked at had information such as population history, altitude and a map showing the location. There are at least 10,000 pages linking to the pages on other wikis, according to the <a class="external text" href="https://global-search.toolforge.org/?q=%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yerelnet.org.tr%2Fkoyler%2F%22&namespaces=&title=">Global Search tool</a>.</dd> <dd>- <a href="/wiki/User:Nikki" title="User:Nikki">Nikki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikki" title="User talk:Nikki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240821125300","author":"Nikki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikki-20240821125300-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> The data seems to be historically useful and the wayback machine has pages that contain some of the information. <a href="/wiki/User:ChristianKl" title="User:ChristianKl"><span style="color:#0000EE;"><b>ChristianKl</b></span></a> ❪<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChristianKl" title="User talk:ChristianKl">✉</a>❫ <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241031090900","author":"ChristianKl","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChristianKl-20241031090900-Sadrettin-20231203153400"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EleniXDD-20240226115300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300","replies":["c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553","c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"],"text":"Property:P3553","linkableTitle":"Property:P3553"}--><h2 id="Property:P3553" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P3553" title="Property:P3553">Property:P3553</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EleniXDD-20240226115300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300","replies":["c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553","c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900","timestamp":"20240606124300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-EleniXDD-20240226115300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3553-Properties-20240226115300","replies":["c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553","c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"],"text":"Property:P3553","linkableTitle":"Property:P3553"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P3553"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P3553" title="Property:P3553"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553"></span>Zhihu topic ID <small dir="ltr">(P3553)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3553&action=delete&wpReason=The+website+Zhihu+%EF%BC%88%E7%9F%A5%E4%B9%8E%EF%BC%89+is+listed+as+deprecated+source+on+%5Bhttps%3A%2F%2Fzh.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia%3A%25E5%258F%25AF%25E9%259D%25A0%25E6%259D%25A5%25E6%25BA%2590%2F%25E5%25B8%25B8%25E8%25A7%2581%25E6%259C%2589%25E4%25BA%2589%25E8%25AE%25AE%25E6%259D%25A5%25E6%25BA%2590%25E5%2588%2597%25E8%25A1%25A8+Chinese+Wikipedia%5D.+Edit+filter+is+triggered+when+relavent+link+is+added.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3553&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P3553?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3553&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP3553">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P3553" title="Property talk:P3553">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The website Zhihu (知乎) is listed as deprecated source on <a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E5%8F%AF%E9%9D%A0%E6%9D%A5%E6%BA%90/%E5%B8%B8%E8%A7%81%E6%9C%89%E4%BA%89%E8%AE%AE%E6%9D%A5%E6%BA%90%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8">Chinese Wikipedia</a>. Edit filter is triggered when relavent link is added. --<a href="/wiki/User:EleniXDD" title="User:EleniXDD">EleniXDD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EleniXDD" title="User talk:EleniXDD"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240226115300","author":"EleniXDD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553","replies":["c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EleniXDD-20240226115300-Property:P3553"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300"></span>Wikipedia and Wikidata are totally different websites.--<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240227105500","author":"GZWDer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-20240227105500-EleniXDD-20240226115300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer"><bdi>GZWDer</bdi></a>: I agree the nomination is confused about the purpose of this property. We have topic ID properties for other knowledge forum websites too e.g. <a href="/wiki/Property:P3417" title="Property:P3417">Quora topic ID <small dir="ltr">(P3417)</small></a> so I think it's acceptable to have an external identifier property for Zhihu. However, <a href="/wiki/User:EleniXDD" title="User:EleniXDD">EleniXDD</a> makes a good point that Zhihu (as with any other crowd Q&A websites) are not reliable sources. For that reason, I recommend changing the constraint to remove <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P5314" title="Property:P5314">property scope <small>(P5314)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q54828450" title="Q54828450">as reference <small>(Q54828450)</small></a></span></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2202089130">.mw-parser-output .statement{margin:0 .2em;background:var(--background-color-base,#fff);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .statement .subject{padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .predicate{background:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);color:var(--color-emphasized,#000);padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .object{padding:0 .2em}</style> to discourage editors from using Zhihu as a reference. <a href="/wiki/User:Deryck_Chan" title="User:Deryck Chan">Deryck Chan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deryck_Chan" title="User talk:Deryck Chan"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240530171900","author":"Deryck Chan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553","replies":["c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900-Property:P3553"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b>, same as GZWDer. And it's ok to remove QA websites as references. <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240606124300","author":"Kethyga","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20240606124300-Deryck_Chan-20240530171900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nlbkos-20240226053800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800","replies":["c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"],"text":"Property:P8350","linkableTitle":"Property:P8350"}--><h2 id="Property:P8350" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P8350" title="Property:P8350">Property:P8350</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nlbkos-20240226053800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800","replies":["c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350","timestamp":"20240226053800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nlbkos-20240226053800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P8350-Properties-20240226053800","replies":["c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"],"text":"Property:P8350","linkableTitle":"Property:P8350"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P8350"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P8350" title="Property:P8350"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"></span>Singapore Infopedia ID (former scheme) <small dir="ltr">(P8350)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8350&action=delete&wpReason=The+URIs+of+Singapore+Infopedia+articles+had+been+amended.+For+example%2C+the+URI+for+the+article+of+Siva+Choy+https%3A%2F%2Feresources.nlb.gov.sg%2Finfopedia%2Farticles%2FSIP_1665_2010-04-28.html+is+replaced+by+https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nlb.gov.sg%2Fmain%2Farticle-detail%3Fcmsuuid%3D8709468f-f41f-44b4-9e8a-ef6ac25accfe.+We+would+like+to+propose+a+new+property+of+the+same+name+%27%27%27Singapore+Infopedia+ID%27%27%27+to+replace+the+current+property+%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2FP8350+P8350%5D.+The+label+of+%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2FP8350+P8350%5D+had+been+renamed+%27%27%27Singapore+Infopedia+ID+%28former+scheme%29%27%27%27.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8350&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P8350?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8350&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP8350">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P8350" title="Property talk:P8350">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The URIs of Singapore Infopedia articles had been amended. For example, the URI for the article of Siva Choy <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_1665_2010-04-28.html">https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_1665_2010-04-28.html</a> is replaced by <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.nlb.gov.sg/main/article-detail?cmsuuid=8709468f-f41f-44b4-9e8a-ef6ac25accfe">https://www.nlb.gov.sg/main/article-detail?cmsuuid=8709468f-f41f-44b4-9e8a-ef6ac25accfe</a>. We would like to propose a new property of the same name <b>Singapore Infopedia ID</b> to replace the current property <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/entity/P8350">P8350</a>. The request for a new property was made at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Singapore_Infopedia_ID_(new_scheme)" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Singapore Infopedia ID (new scheme)">Wikidata:Property proposal/Singapore Infopedia ID (new scheme)</a>. The label of <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/entity/P8350">P8350</a> had been renamed <b>Singapore Infopedia ID (former scheme)</b>. —<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nlbkos&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nlbkos (page does not exist)">Nlbkos</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nlbkos" title="User talk:Nlbkos"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240226053800","author":"Nlbkos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nlbkos-20240226053800-Property:P8350"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Infrastruktur-20240310153300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300","replies":["c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"],"text":"Property:P4454","linkableTitle":"Property:P4454"}--><h2 id="Property:P4454" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4454" title="Property:P4454">Property:P4454</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Infrastruktur-20240310153300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300","replies":["c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Oravrattas-20240313011700-Infrastruktur-20240310170000","timestamp":"20240313011700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Infrastruktur-20240310153300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4454-Properties-20240310153300","replies":["c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"],"text":"Property:P4454","linkableTitle":"Property:P4454"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P4454"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4454" title="Property:P4454"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"></span>Argentine Chamber of Deputies ID <small dir="ltr">(P4454)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4454&action=delete&wpReason=Initially+discovered+because+the+ID%27s+links+were+timing+out.+Looking+at+the+spanish+webpage+%28https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hcdn.gob.ar%2Fdiputados%2Findex.html%29+it+appears+that+%27%27%27only+current%27%27%27+politicians+have+a+profile%2C+but+ideally+an+extra+set+of+eyeballs+would+be+nice+for+a+confirmation.+Anyways%2C+since+the+identifiers+are+unstable%2C+there+is+no+point+in+a+property+and+so+it+shall+be+deleted.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4454&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P4454?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4454&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP4454">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4454" title="Property talk:P4454">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Initially discovered because the ID's links were timing out. Looking at the spanish webpage (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.hcdn.gob.ar/diputados/index.html">https://www.hcdn.gob.ar/diputados/index.html</a>) it appears that <b>only current</b> politicians have a profile, but ideally an extra set of eyeballs would be nice for a confirmation. Anyways, since the identifiers are unstable, there is no point in a property and so it shall be deleted. —<a href="/wiki/User:Infrastruktur" title="User:Infrastruktur">Infrastruktur</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infrastruktur" title="User talk:Infrastruktur"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310153300","author":"Infrastruktur","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454","replies":["c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infrastruktur-20240310153300-Property:P4454"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> Unless the IDs are entirely transient (i.e. get re-used for someone else) that only seems like a reason to update or remove the links, not to remove the property entirely. Not having a current profile page doesn't mean that the IDs aren't used elsewhere on the site, or won't be included in future if the person is re-elected or the site is redesigned, or that these IDs aren't in use in historic data-dumps etc. I don't understand why we would want to throw that information away. <a href="/wiki/User:Oravrattas" title="User:Oravrattas">Oravrattas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oravrattas" title="User talk:Oravrattas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310160800","author":"Oravrattas","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300","replies":["c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oravrattas-20240310160800-Infrastruktur-20240310153300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800"></span>If the site does not employ a scheme to prevent reuse of identifiers then reuse is a distinct possibility. The identifier seems to be based on one letter for given names and the whole surname. And surnames are reused all the time, making ID collisions fairly likely. <a href="/wiki/User:Infrastruktur" title="User:Infrastruktur">Infrastruktur</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infrastruktur" title="User talk:Infrastruktur"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240310170000","author":"Infrastruktur","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800","replies":["c-Oravrattas-20240313011700-Infrastruktur-20240310170000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infrastruktur-20240310170000-Oravrattas-20240310160800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oravrattas-20240313011700-Infrastruktur-20240310170000"></span>Do you have examples of this ever happening? The idea that an identifier <i>might</i> get reused seems pretty thin as a rationale for deleting a well-used property. <a href="/wiki/User:Oravrattas" title="User:Oravrattas">Oravrattas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oravrattas" title="User talk:Oravrattas"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Oravrattas-20240313011700-Infrastruktur-20240310170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oravrattas-20240313011700-Infrastruktur-20240310170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P2353-Properties-20240413200400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Samoasambia-20240413200400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2353-Properties-20240413200400","replies":["c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-PAC2-20240415220200-Samoasambia-20240413200400","timestamp":"20240415220200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Samoasambia-20240413200400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P2353-Properties-20240413200400","replies":["c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353"],"text":"Property:P2353","linkableTitle":"Property:P2353"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P2353"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P2353" title="Property:P2353"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353"></span>statistical unit <small dir="ltr">(P2353)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2353&action=delete&wpReason=I+propose+deleting+%5B%5BProperty%3AP2353%7Cstatistical+unit%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P2353%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+since+its+current+use+differs+greatly+from+the+original+idea%2C+both+of+which+could+be+better+modelled+through+other+existing+properties.%0A%0AMost+of+the+P2353+statements+are+to+my+understanding+essensially+duplicates+of+%5B%5BProperty%3AP31%7Cinstance+of%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P31%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+except+only+for+telling+that+the+item+is+an+instance+of+some+sort+of+statistical+unit.+For+example%2C+on+one+of+the+example+items+of+the+property%2C+%5B%5Bd%3AQ1942317%7CBni+Gmil+%3Csmall%3E%28Q1942317%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+has+a+statement+%3Cspan+class%3D%22statement%22%3E%3Cspan+class%3D%22predicate%22%3E%5B%5Bd%3AProperty%3AP2353%7Cstatistical+unit+%3Csmall%3E%28P2353%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+class%3D%22object%22%3E%5B%5Bd%3AQ17318027%7Crural+commune+of+Morocco+%3Csmall%3E%28Q17318027%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%3C%2Fspan%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E+meanwhile+P31+has+the+exactly+same+value.+On+the+second+example+item%2C+%5B%5Bd%3AQ23137124%7COrchard+Ridge+%3Csmall%3E%28Q23137124%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%2C+there+is+a+statement+%3Cspan+class%3D%22statement%22%3E%3Cspan+class%3D%22predicate%22%3E%5B%5Bd%3AProperty%3AP2353%7Cstatistical+unit+%3Csmall%3E%28P2353%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%3C%2Fspan%3E%3Cspan+class%3D%22object%22%3E%5B%5Bd%3AQ111902602%7CNeighborhood+Statistical+Area+of+Baltimore+%3Csmall%3E%28Q111902602%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%3C%2Fspan%3E%3C%2Fspan%3E+but+P31+doesn%27t+have+that+value%2C+even+though+it+clearly+should.+The+property+is+currently+stated+on+%5Bhttps%3A%2F%2Fw.wiki%2F9kNm+246+items%5D%2C+of+which+%5Bhttps%3A%2F%2Fw.wiki%2F9kMV+173%5D+are+located+in+Baltimore%2C+United+States.%0A%0AIf+I+understood+correctly%2C+the+original+purpose+of+P2353+presented+in+the+%5B%5BWikidata%3AProperty_proposal%2FArchive%2F41%23P2353%7Cproperty+proposal%5D%5D+was+to+model+what+kind+of+units+populate+a+dataset+or+database.+I+can+find+only+13+items+where+P2353+is+used+this+way%2C+all+of+which+originate+in+France%2C+for+example+%5B%5Bd%3AQ101086386%7CASPIC+%3Csmall%3E%28Q101086386%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+and+%5B%5Bd%3AQ80900474%7CFichier+des+personnes+d%C3%A9c%C3%A9d%C3%A9es+%3Csmall%3E%28Q80900474%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D.+In+my+opinion+these+cases+could+be+better+modelled+through+existing+properties+%5B%5BProperty%3AP527%7Chas+part%28s%29%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P527%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+or+%5B%5BProperty%3AP2670%7Chas+part%28s%29+of+the+class%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P2670%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+as+is+done+in+most+items+about+databases.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2353&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P2353?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P2353&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP2353">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P2353" title="Property talk:P2353">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>I propose deleting <a href="/wiki/Property:P2353" title="Property:P2353">statistical unit <small dir="ltr">(P2353)</small></a> since its current use differs greatly from the original idea, both of which could be better modelled through other existing properties. </p><p>Most of the P2353 statements are to my understanding essensially duplicates of <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a>, except only for telling that the item is an instance of some sort of statistical unit. For example, on one of the example items of the property, <a href="/wiki/Q1942317" title="Q1942317">Bni Gmil <small>(Q1942317)</small></a> has a statement <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P2353" title="Property:P2353">statistical unit <small>(P2353)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q17318027" title="Q17318027">rural commune of Morocco <small>(Q17318027)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> meanwhile P31 has the exactly same value. On the second example item, <a href="/wiki/Q23137124" title="Q23137124">Orchard Ridge <small>(Q23137124)</small></a>, there is a statement <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P2353" title="Property:P2353">statistical unit <small>(P2353)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q111902602" title="Q111902602">Neighborhood Statistical Area of Baltimore <small>(Q111902602)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> but P31 doesn't have that value, even though it clearly should. The property is currently stated on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/9kNm">246 items</a>, of which <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/9kMV">173</a> are located in Baltimore, United States. </p><p>If I understood correctly, the original purpose of P2353 presented in the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/41#P2353" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/41">property proposal</a> was to model what kind of units populate a dataset or database. I can find only 13 items where P2353 is used this way, all of which originate in France, for example <a href="/wiki/Q101086386" title="Q101086386">ASPIC <small>(Q101086386)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q80900474" title="Q80900474">Fichier des personnes décédées <small>(Q80900474)</small></a>. In my opinion these cases could be better modelled through existing properties <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> or <a href="/wiki/Property:P2670" title="Property:P2670">has part(s) of the class <small dir="ltr">(P2670)</small></a> as is done in most items about databases. —<a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><font color="#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></font></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia" title="User talk:Samoasambia"><font color="#228B22"><b>✎</b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240413200400","author":"Samoasambia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353","replies":["c-PAC2-20240415220200-Samoasambia-20240413200400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samoasambia-20240413200400-Property:P2353"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PAC2-20240415220200-Samoasambia-20240413200400"></span>I've suggested to create the property because I needed to describe datasets or database. The idea is that some datasets describe countries, some datasets describe organization, etc. See <a href="/wiki/Q3509449#P2353" title="Q3509449">Q3509449#P2353</a> for a good example. <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> doesn't work for my use case</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P2670" title="Property:P2670">has part(s) of the class <small dir="ltr">(P2670)</small></a> is better than <a href="/wiki/Property:P527" title="Property:P527">has part(s) <small dir="ltr">(P527)</small></a> but not precise enough.</li></ul></dd> <dd>The most precise description would be "the subject describes entities of this class". Until I find another property matching this definition, I'm not in favour of the deletion of P2353. <a href="/wiki/User:PAC2" title="User:PAC2">PAC2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PAC2" title="User talk:PAC2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-PAC2-20240415220200-Samoasambia-20240413200400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PAC2-20240415220200-Samoasambia-20240413200400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P8409-Properties-20240516144500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Horcrux-20240516144500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P8409-Properties-20240516144500","replies":["c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Infrastruktur-20241115121400-Horcrux-20240516144500","timestamp":"20241115121400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Horcrux-20240516144500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P8409-Properties-20240516144500","replies":["c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409"],"text":"Property:P8409","linkableTitle":"Property:P8409"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P8409"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P8409" title="Property:P8409"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409"></span>Swedish Environmental Protection Agency Amenity OBJECTID <small dir="ltr">(P8409)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8409&action=delete&wpReason=As+discussed+in+%5B%5BProperty+talk%3AP8409%23Why+keeping+this+property%3F%5D%5D%2C+this+property+appears+to+be+unusable.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8409&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P8409?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P8409&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP8409">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P8409" title="Property talk:P8409">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>As discussed in <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P8409#Why_keeping_this_property?" title="Property talk:P8409">Property talk:P8409#Why keeping this property?</a>, this property appears to be unusable. --<a href="/wiki/User:Horcrux" title="User:Horcrux">Horcrux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horcrux" title="User talk:Horcrux"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240516144500","author":"Horcrux","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409","replies":["c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500","c-Infrastruktur-20241115121400-Horcrux-20240516144500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horcrux-20240516144500-Property:P8409"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500"></span>I have no intention of using this property at the moment, the data is valuable, but so far there has not been much interest from the community in neither <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Campsites/Sweden">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Campsites/Sweden</a> nor <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Svenska_Grillplatser">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Svenska_Grillplatser</a> from where the data could be linked using this and other properties.</dd> <dd>I updated the property with the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://oppnadata.naturvardsverket.se/dataportal-details.html#esc_entry=13956&esc_context=69&esc_-org=http%3A%2F%2Fdataportal.se%2Forganisation%2FSE2021001975">new source</a> for the data, part of which could be imported if anyone wanted to. <a href="/wiki/User:So9q" title="User:So9q">So9q</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:So9q" title="User talk:So9q"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240517061700","author":"So9q","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-So9q-20240517061700-Horcrux-20240516144500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infrastruktur-20241115121400-Horcrux-20240516144500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> Unused for years. <a href="/wiki/User:Infrastruktur" title="User:Infrastruktur">Infrastruktur</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infrastruktur" title="User talk:Infrastruktur"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Infrastruktur-20241115121400-Horcrux-20240516144500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infrastruktur-20241115121400-Horcrux-20240516144500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P842-Properties-20240529172300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Trooper57-20240529172300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P842-Properties-20240529172300","replies":["c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300","timestamp":"20240602135700"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Trooper57-20240529172300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P842-Properties-20240529172300","replies":["c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842"],"text":"Property:P842","linkableTitle":"Property:P842"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P842"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P842" title="Property:P842"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842"></span>Fossilworks taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P842)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P842&action=delete&wpReason=The+%5Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.fossilworks.org%2F+website%5D+has+been+down+for+a+very+long+time+and+all+its+contents+were+moved+to+%5B%5BProperty%3AP10907%7CPaleobiology+Database+taxon+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P10907%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D%3A+%3Ci%3E%3Cspan+lang%3D%22%22%3Eidentifier+for+a+fossil+taxon+in+the+Paleobiology+Database%3C%2Fspan%3E%3C%2Fi%3E.+The+IDs+were+kept+the+same+across+both+databases%2C+so+a+bot+could++theoretically+just+chance+one+for+the+other.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P842&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P842?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P842&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP842">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P842" title="Property talk:P842">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.fossilworks.org/">website</a> has been down for a very long time and all its contents were moved to <a href="/wiki/Property:P10907" title="Property:P10907">Paleobiology Database taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P10907)</small></a>: <i><span lang="">identifier for a fossil taxon in the Paleobiology Database</span></i>. The IDs were kept the same across both databases, so a bot could theoretically just chance one for the other. —<a href="/wiki/User:Trooper57" title="User:Trooper57">Trooper57</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trooper57" title="User talk:Trooper57"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240529172300","author":"Trooper57","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842","replies":["c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trooper57-20240529172300-Property:P842"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300"></span>It does look like fossilworks is no more. It did go down for a while before (months?) and returned, but this seems terminal. The two sites ran in parallel for many years, supposedly using the same database with the fossilworks mirror updated daily (according to the fossilworks FAQS). The records were not exactly the same, with some occasional differences in the ecology and number of collections.</dd> <dd>For some reason the <a href="/wiki/Property:P10907" title="Property:P10907">Paleobiology Database taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P10907)</small></a> only has about 11,000 entries on Wikidata, whereas fossilworks has over 100k.</dd> <dd>The taxonbar on English Wikipedia still uses <a href="/wiki/Property:P842" title="Property:P842">Fossilworks taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P842)</small></a>. When fossilworks went down we changed it to get the ID from <a href="/wiki/Property:P842" title="Property:P842">Fossilworks taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P842)</small></a> and then link it to PBDB. Obviously this workaround wouldn't be necessary if <a href="/wiki/Property:P10907" title="Property:P10907">Paleobiology Database taxon ID <small dir="ltr">(P10907)</small></a> was fully populated. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jts1882&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jts1882 (page does not exist)">Jts1882</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jts1882&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Jts1882 (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240602135700","author":"Jts1882","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jts1882-20240602135700-Trooper57-20240529172300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000","replies":["c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"],"text":"Property:P7720","linkableTitle":"Property:P7720"}--><h2 id="Property:P7720" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P7720" title="Property:P7720">Property:P7720</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000","replies":["c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000","timestamp":"20240702104200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7720-Properties-20240607060000","replies":["c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"],"text":"Property:P7720","linkableTitle":"Property:P7720"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P7720"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P7720" title="Property:P7720"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"></span>Fossilworks reference ID <small dir="ltr">(P7720)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7720&action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5Bd%3AQ796451%7CFossilworks+%3Csmall%3E%28Q796451%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+has+been+dead+for+some+time+now%3B+%5B%5BProperty%3AP7720%7CFossilworks+reference+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P7720%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+has+been+superseded+by+%5B%5BProperty%3AP12793%7CPaleobiology+database+reference+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P12793%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+and+all+the+instances+of+its+use+copied+across+%28they+in+fact+matched+1%3A1%29%3B+thank+you%2C">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7720&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P7720?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7720&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP7720">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P7720" title="Property talk:P7720">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Q796451" title="Q796451">Fossilworks <small>(Q796451)</small></a> has been dead for some time now; <a href="/wiki/Property:P7720" title="Property:P7720">Fossilworks reference ID <small dir="ltr">(P7720)</small></a> has been superseded by <a href="/wiki/Property:P12793" title="Property:P12793">Paleobiology database reference ID <small dir="ltr">(P12793)</small></a> and all the instances of its use copied across (they in fact matched 1:1); thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis" title="User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis">Maculosae tegmine lyncis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis" title="User talk:Maculosae tegmine lyncis"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607060000","author":"Maculosae tegmine lyncis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720","replies":["c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000-Property:P7720"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> Are we used to delete properties on the basis that they are instances of <a href="/wiki/Q60457486" title="Q60457486">Wikidata property for a discontinued website <small>(Q60457486)</small></a> (currently we have <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fx%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fx%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ60457486%20.%0A%7D%0A">127</a> of such properties)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Horcrux" title="User:Horcrux">Horcrux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horcrux" title="User talk:Horcrux"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240702104200","author":"Horcrux","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horcrux-20240702104200-Maculosae_tegmine_lyncis-20240607060000"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daask-20240618173800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800","replies":["c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861","c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861","c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"],"text":"Property:P4861","linkableTitle":"Property:P4861"}--><h2 id="Property:P4861" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4861" title="Property:P4861">Property:P4861</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daask-20240618173800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800","replies":["c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861","c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861","c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500","timestamp":"20241102201500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__7__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__6__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daask-20240618173800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4861-Properties-20240618173800","replies":["c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861","c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861","c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"],"text":"Property:P4861","linkableTitle":"Property:P4861"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P4861"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4861" title="Property:P4861"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861"></span>Charity Navigator ID (obsolete) <small dir="ltr">(P4861)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4861&action=delete&wpReason=The+source+no+longer+uses+these+identifiers%2C+and+no+longer+provides+a+way+to+access+or+search+for+entities+by+using+this+identifier.+Some+prior+related+discussion+is+at+%5B%5BProperty+talk%3AP4861%23New+Scheme%5D%5D+%5B%5BUser%3ADaask%7CDaask%5D%5D+%28%5B%5BUser+talk%3ADaask%7C%3Cspan+class%3D%22signature-talk%22%3Etalk%3C%2Fspan%3E%5D%5D%29+17%3A38%2C+18+June+2024+%28UTC%29">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4861&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P4861?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4861&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP4861">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4861" title="Property talk:P4861">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The source no longer uses these identifiers, and no longer provides a way to access or search for entities by using this identifier. Some prior related discussion is at <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4861#New_Scheme" title="Property talk:P4861">Property talk:P4861#New Scheme</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618173800","author":"Daask","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20240618173800-Property:P4861"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ringbang" title="User:Ringbang"><bdi>Ringbang</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Newt713" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Newt713"><bdi>Newt713</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:BrokenSegue" title="User:BrokenSegue"><bdi>BrokenSegue</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Problemsmith" title="User:Problemsmith"><bdi>Problemsmith</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pintoch" title="User:Pintoch"><bdi>Pintoch</bdi></a>: Courtesy ping to editors who have worked on this item. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618174500","author":"Daask","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861","replies":["c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500","c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500","c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20240618174500-Property:P4861"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500"></span>accessible via internet archive do not delete. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20221204131344/https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?ein=200049703&bay=search.results">https://web.archive.org/web/20221204131344/https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?ein=200049703&bay=search.results</a> <a href="/wiki/User:BrokenSegue" title="User:BrokenSegue">BrokenSegue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BrokenSegue" title="User talk:BrokenSegue"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618180100","author":"BrokenSegue","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BrokenSegue-20240618180100-Daask-20240618174500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> No longer existing. There are currently ~110 entries that have an <a href="/wiki/Property:P4861" title="Property:P4861">Charity Navigator ID (obsolete) <small dir="ltr">(P4861)</small></a> but no <a href="/wiki/Property:P1297" title="Property:P1297">IRS Employer Identification Number <small dir="ltr">(P1297)</small></a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/ARbw">-> Query</a>). Perhaps we can work on that. I exported it. I also made sure, that all entries with <a href="/wiki/Property:P4861" title="Property:P4861">Charity Navigator ID (obsolete) <small dir="ltr">(P4861)</small></a> are marked as a Nonprofit and have a value for country. --<a href="/wiki/User:Newt713" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Newt713">Newt713</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Newt713" title="User talk:Newt713"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240618182200","author":"Newt713","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500","replies":["c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Newt713-20240618182200-Daask-20240618174500"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200"></span>Charity Navigator only rates large nonprofits that have been around for several years. It should be possible to get all of those charities' EINs from the charities, as one of the CN criteria is that the IRS form 990 is accessible from the charity's website, and the EIN will be in the 990. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Squirrel_Conspiracy" title="User:The Squirrel Conspiracy">The Squirrel Conspiracy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Squirrel_Conspiracy" title="User talk:The Squirrel Conspiracy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726065200","author":"The Squirrel Conspiracy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065200-Newt713-20240618182200"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500"></span>There is no Item left with a <a href="/wiki/Property:P4861" title="Property:P4861">Charity Navigator ID (obsolete) <small dir="ltr">(P4861)</small></a> and no <a href="/wiki/Property:P1297" title="Property:P1297">IRS Employer Identification Number <small dir="ltr">(P1297)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/Property:P1297" title="Property:P1297">IRS Employer Identification Number <small dir="ltr">(P1297)</small></a> has the URL to Charity Navigator as an <a href="/wiki/Property:P3303" title="Property:P3303">third-party formatter URL <small dir="ltr">(P3303)</small></a>. Perhaps it's time to delete or archive this property. --<a href="/wiki/User:NGOgo" title="User:NGOgo">NGOgo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NGOgo" title="User talk:NGOgo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102201500","author":"NGOgo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NGOgo-20241102201500-Daask-20240618174500"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"></span>(Moved from <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion" title="Wikidata:Properties for deletion">Wikidata:Properties for deletion</a> —<a href="/wiki/User:Ameisenigel" title="User:Ameisenigel">Ameisenigel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ameisenigel" title="User talk:Ameisenigel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 19 June 2024 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240619090800","author":"Ameisenigel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ameisenigel-20240619090800-Property:P4861"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MSMST1543-20240704155400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400","replies":["c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"],"text":"Property:P4003","linkableTitle":"Property:P4003"}--><h2 id="Property:P4003" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4003" title="Property:P4003">Property:P4003</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MSMST1543-20240704155400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400","replies":["c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400","timestamp":"20241028134400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MSMST1543-20240704155400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P4003-Properties-20240704155400","replies":["c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"],"text":"Property:P4003","linkableTitle":"Property:P4003"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P4003"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P4003" title="Property:P4003"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"></span>Facebook page ID <small dir="ltr">(P4003)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4003&action=delete&wpReason=Redundant+to+%5B%5BProperty%3AP11705%7CFacebook+numeric+ID%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P11705%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D.+The+page%E2%80%99s+ID+is+actually+only+the+number+at+the+end.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4003&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P4003?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P4003&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP4003">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P4003" title="Property talk:P4003">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Redundant to <a href="/wiki/Property:P11705" title="Property:P11705">Facebook numeric ID <small dir="ltr">(P11705)</small></a>. The page’s ID is actually only the number at the end. —<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MSMST1543&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MSMST1543 (page does not exist)">MSMST1543</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSMST1543" title="User talk:MSMST1543"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704155400","author":"MSMST1543","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003","replies":["c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSMST1543-20240704155400-Property:P4003"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b>. I have verified that all of the following pages redirect to the same page <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Statistical-Society-of-Australia-Inc/186936994713723">https://www.facebook.com/pages/Statistical-Society-of-Australia-Inc/186936994713723</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/anyrandomtext/186936994713723">https://www.facebook.com/pages/anyrandomtext/186936994713723</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/Statistical-Society-of-Australia-Inc-186936994713723">https://www.facebook.com/Statistical-Society-of-Australia-Inc-186936994713723</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/anyrandomtext-186936994713723">https://www.facebook.com/anyrandomtext-186936994713723</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/186936994713723">https://www.facebook.com/186936994713723</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>I do have a recollection that at least at some points in Facebook's history, these kinds of URLs produced different webpages for the same Facebook user. It may be worth doing further tests to consider that possibility. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028134400","author":"Daask","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20241028134400-MSMST1543-20240704155400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rainsday-20240706063600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600","replies":["c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"],"text":"Property:P10996","linkableTitle":"Property:P10996"}--><h2 id="Property:P10996" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P10996" title="Property:P10996">Property:P10996</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rainsday-20240706063600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600","replies":["c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600","timestamp":"20240707004200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rainsday-20240706063600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10996-Properties-20240706063600","replies":["c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"],"text":"Property:P10996","linkableTitle":"Property:P10996"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P10996"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P10996" title="Property:P10996"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"></span>TGbus ID <small dir="ltr">(P10996)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10996&action=delete&wpReason=website+is+not+available%2C+response+status+codes+503">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10996&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P10996?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10996&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP10996">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P10996" title="Property talk:P10996">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Website is not available, response status codes 503 —<a href="/wiki/User:Rainsday" title="User:Rainsday">Rainsday</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rainsday&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rainsday (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706063600","author":"Rainsday","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996","replies":["c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600","c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rainsday-20240706063600-Property:P10996"></span> </p> <dl><dd><div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Applsdev" title="User:Applsdev"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600"></span>applsdev</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Arlo_Barnes" title="User:Arlo Barnes">Arlo Barnes</a> <a href="/wiki/User:BugWarp" title="User:BugWarp">BugWarp</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Coloradohusky" title="User:Coloradohusky">Coloradohusky</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CommanderKefir" title="User:CommanderKefir">CommanderKefir</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CptViraj" title="User:CptViraj">CptViraj</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cupkake4Yoshi" title="User:Cupkake4Yoshi">Cupkake4Yoshi</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cwf97" title="User:Cwf97">Cwf97</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cynde_Moya" title="User:Cynde Moya">Cynde Moya</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Datumizer" title="User:Datumizer">Datumizer</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Dexxor" title="User:Dexxor">Dexxor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Diggr" title="User:Diggr">Diggr</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Dispenser" title="User:Dispenser">Dispenser</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Dollarsign8" title="User:Dollarsign8">Dollarsign8</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DoublePendulumAttractor" title="User:DoublePendulumAttractor">DoublePendulumAttractor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:EdoAug" title="User:EdoAug">EdoAug</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Edolusill" title="User:Edolusill">Edolusill</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Eniehack" title="User:Eniehack">Eniehack</a> <a href="/wiki/User:A_particle_for_world_to_form" title="User:A particle for world to form">Facenapalm</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Floyd-out" title="User:Floyd-out">Floyd-out</a> <a href="/wiki/User:FullyAwesome" title="User:FullyAwesome">FullyAwesome</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Harshrathod50" title="User:Harshrathod50">Harshrathod50</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Frédéric</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Keplersj" title="User:Keplersj">Keplersj</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kirilloparma" title="User:Kirilloparma">Kirilloparma</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Lewis_Hulbert" title="User:Lewis Hulbert">Lewis Hulbert</a> <a href="/wiki/User:LotsofTheories" title="User:LotsofTheories">LotsofTheories</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Macocobovi" title="User:Macocobovi">Macocobovi</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Macrike" title="User:Macrike">Macrike</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Master_Of_Ninja&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Master Of Ninja (page does not exist)">Master Of Ninja</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Matthias_M." title="User:Matthias M.">Matthias M.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Metafire18" title="User:Metafire18">Metafire18</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Nicereddy" title="User:Nicereddy">Nicereddy</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Odjob16" title="User:Odjob16">Odjob16</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Oduci" title="User:Oduci">Oduci</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Poslovitch" title="User:Poslovitch">Poslovitch</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Rampagingcarrot" title="User:Rampagingcarrot">Rampagingcarrot</a> <a href="/wiki/User:RampantSpirit" title="User:RampantSpirit">RampantSpirit</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Santer" title="User:Santer">Santer</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sight_Contamination" title="User:Sight Contamination">Sight Contamination</a> <a href="/wiki/User:SuperUltraHardCoreGamer" title="User:SuperUltraHardCoreGamer">SuperUltraHardCoreGamer</a> - Joined to add things about Steam Deck verified/playable titles. Skills: Basic editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Thgiex" title="User:Thgiex">thgiex</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Tomodachi94" title="User:Tomodachi94">Tomodachi94</a> <a href="/wiki/User:VGPaleontologist" title="User:VGPaleontologist">VGPaleontologist</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Wd-Ryan" title="User:Wd-Ryan">Wd-Ryan</a> <a href="/wiki/User:WikiSyn" title="User:WikiSyn">WikiSyn</a> <a href="/wiki/User:YotaMoteuchi" title="User:YotaMoteuchi">YotaMoteuchi</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Athayahisyam" title="User:Athayahisyam">Athayahisyam</a> </div><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Video_games/Participants" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Video games/Participants">participants of WikiProject Video games</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Rainsday" title="User:Rainsday">Rainsday</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rainsday&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rainsday (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706064400","author":"Rainsday","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600","replies":["c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rainsday-20240706064400-Rainsday-20240706063600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400"></span>Changed the formatter URL to <a href="/wiki/Q648266" title="Q648266">Wayback Machine <small>(Q648266)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Matthias_M." title="User:Matthias M.">Matthias M.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthias_M." title="User talk:Matthias M."><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706105300","author":"Matthias M.","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matthias_M.-20240706105300-Rainsday-20240706064400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Symbol_keep_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_keep_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Keep</b> Yeah, archived links will be fine here. By the way, it is not said that the site is completely dead, it may still appear online. This is what the error 503 "Service Temporarily Unavailable" says itself. Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kirilloparma" title="User:Kirilloparma">Kirilloparma</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kirilloparma" title="User talk:Kirilloparma"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240707004200","author":"Kirilloparma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kirilloparma-20240707004200-Rainsday-20240706063600"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Akaibu-20240831145000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000","replies":["c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"],"text":"Property:P3370","linkableTitle":"Property:P3370"}--><h2 id="Property:P3370" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P3370" title="Property:P3370">Property:P3370</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Akaibu-20240831145000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000","replies":["c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Bal\u00fb-20240916102900-Akaibu-20240831145000","timestamp":"20240916102900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Akaibu-20240831145000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P3370-Properties-20240831145000","replies":["c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"],"text":"Property:P3370","linkableTitle":"Property:P3370"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P3370"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P3370" title="Property:P3370"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"></span>Géopatronyme ID <small dir="ltr">(P3370)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3370&action=delete&wpReason=Website+related+to+it+seems+to+redirect+and+is+no+longer+relevant+to+what+the+property+was+created+for.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3370&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P3370?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P3370&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP3370">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P3370" title="Property talk:P3370">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Website related to it seems to redirect and is no longer relevant to what the property was created for. —<a href="/wiki/User:Akaibu" title="User:Akaibu">Akaibu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akaibu" title="User talk:Akaibu"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831145000","author":"Akaibu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370","replies":["c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000","c-Bal\u00fb-20240916102900-Akaibu-20240831145000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akaibu-20240831145000-Property:P3370"></span> </p> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Disagree</b>. Personally, in my use, the site is fully functional and remains complementary to lexeme <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P9644" title="Property:P9644">Geneanet family name ID</a></i>. —— <a href="/wiki/User:DePlusJean" title="User:DePlusJean">DePlusJean</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DePlusJean" title="User talk:DePlusJean"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240913051800","author":"DePlusJean","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DePlusJean-20240913051800-Akaibu-20240831145000"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balû-20240916102900-Akaibu-20240831145000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I have tested randomly: at <a href="/wiki/Q18549" title="Q18549">Bowers <small>(Q18549)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q25229" title="Q25229">Kern <small>(Q25229)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q28657" title="Q28657">Fotopoulos <small>(Q28657)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q29599" title="Q29599">Lund <small>(Q29599)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q32876" title="Q32876">De Lange <small>(Q32876)</small></a> all links lead to an error page of filae.com. --<a href="/wiki/User:Bal%C3%BB" title="User:Balû">Balû</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bal%C3%BB" title="User talk:Balû"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Balû-20240916102900-Akaibu-20240831145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balû-20240916102900-Akaibu-20240831145000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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title="Property:P9590">Property:P9590</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P9590-Properties-20241010190000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Samoasambia-20241010190000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P9590-Properties-20241010190000","replies":["c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590","timestamp":"20241010190000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Samoasambia-20241010190000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P9590-Properties-20241010190000","replies":["c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590"],"text":"Property:P9590","linkableTitle":"Property:P9590"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P9590"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P9590" title="Property:P9590"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590"></span>North Carolina session law <small dir="ltr">(P9590)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P9590&action=delete&wpReason=The+property+is+a+law+identifier+for+North+Carolina%2C+US.+I+think+%5B%5BProperty%3AP8550%7Claw+identifier%26%2332%3B%3Csmall+dir%3D%22ltr%22%3E%28P8550%29%3C%2Fsmall%3E%5D%5D+should+be+used+instead+since+the+property+does+not+link+anywhere+and+there+is+no+other+reason+for+a+separate+law+indentifier+property+just+for+North+Carolina.+The+property+is+currently+used+on+zero+items.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P9590&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P9590?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P9590&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP9590">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P9590" title="Property talk:P9590">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The property is a law identifier for North Carolina, US. I think <a href="/wiki/Property:P8550" title="Property:P8550">law identifier <small dir="ltr">(P8550)</small></a> should be used instead since the property does not link anywhere and there is no other reason for a separate law indentifier property just for North Carolina. The property is currently used on zero items. —<a href="/wiki/User:Samoasambia" title="User:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#3F92D2"><b>Samoasambia</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Samoasambia" title="User talk:Samoasambia"><span style="color:#228B22"><b>✎</b></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samoasambia-20241010190000-Property:P9590"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P10291-Properties-20241015024200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Trade-20241015024200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10291-Properties-20241015024200","replies":["c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200","timestamp":"20241029092200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Trade-20241015024200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10291-Properties-20241015024200","replies":["c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291"],"text":"Property:P10291","linkableTitle":"Property:P10291"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P10291"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P10291" title="Property:P10291"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291"></span>Wikisimpsons article ID <small dir="ltr">(P10291)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10291&action=delete&wpReason=As+far+as+i+can+tell+this+identifier+is+pretty+much+identical+to+MediaWiki+page+ID+%28P9675%29">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10291&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P10291?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10291&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP10291">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P10291" title="Property talk:P10291">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>As far as i can tell this identifier is pretty much identical to MediaWiki page ID (P9675) <a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241015024200","author":"Trade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291","replies":["c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-20241015024200-Property:P10291"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, as we currently have <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fx%20%3FxLabel%0AWHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fx%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%2a%20wd%3AQ125880215%20.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0A">twenty-eight</a> <a href="/wiki/Q125880215" title="Q125880215">Wikidata property linking to articles in MediaWiki websites by wgArticleId</a>. I think you shuld open a broader discussion for deciding a uniform solution.</dd> <dd>In any case, before deleting any of such property we should create the corresponding property linking the article's title (like <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Q123667996&namespace=120">these ones</a>). Check out the <a href="/wiki/Property:P9675#P1855" title="Property:P9675">examples</a> provided in <a href="/wiki/Property:P9675" title="Property:P9675">MediaWiki page ID <small dir="ltr">(P9675)</small></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Horcrux" title="User:Horcrux">Horcrux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horcrux" title="User talk:Horcrux"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241029092200","author":"Horcrux","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horcrux-20241029092200-Trade-20241015024200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CptViraj-20241109104600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600","replies":["c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279"],"text":"Property:P10279","linkableTitle":"Property:P10279"}--><h2 id="Property:P10279" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P10279" title="Property:P10279">Property:P10279</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CptViraj-20241109104600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600","replies":["c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-ArthurPSmith-20241125175200-CptViraj-20241109104600","timestamp":"20241125175200"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-CptViraj-20241109104600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P10279-Properties-20241109104600","replies":["c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279"],"text":"Property:P10279","linkableTitle":"Property:P10279"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P10279"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P10279" title="Property:P10279"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279"></span>TVFPlay series ID <small dir="ltr">(P10279)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10279&action=delete&wpReason=The+service+is+down+%28most+probably+closed%29+for+a+long-time+now+as+TVF+is+now+mostly+producing+exclusive+content+for+other+streaming+services.+I%27m+the+original+proposer+of+the+property.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10279&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P10279?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P10279&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP10279">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P10279" title="Property talk:P10279">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>The service is down (most probably closed) for a long-time now as TVF is now mostly producing exclusive content for other streaming services. I'm the original proposer of the property. -- <a href="/wiki/User:CptViraj" title="User:CptViraj">CptViraj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CptViraj" title="User talk:CptViraj"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CptViraj-20241109104600-Property:P10279"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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<b>Delete</b> fine with me, only a very small amount of usage. <a href="/wiki/User:ArthurPSmith" title="User:ArthurPSmith">ArthurPSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArthurPSmith" title="User talk:ArthurPSmith"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-ArthurPSmith-20241125175200-CptViraj-20241109104600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArthurPSmith-20241125175200-CptViraj-20241109104600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P12990-Properties-20241117193900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mahir256-20241117193900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P12990-Properties-20241117193900","replies":["c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4_\u05d1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05d0\u05e7-20241118085000-\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df-20241118073500","timestamp":"20241118085000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mahir256-20241117193900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P12990-Properties-20241117193900","replies":["c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990"],"text":"Property:P12990","linkableTitle":"Property:P12990"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P12990"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P12990" title="Property:P12990"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990"></span>ACUM Work ID <small dir="ltr">(P12990)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P12990&action=delete&wpReason=Exact+duplicate+of+P8201.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P12990&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P12990?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P12990&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP12990">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P12990" title="Property talk:P12990">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p><p>Appears to be an exact duplicate of <a href="/wiki/Property:P8201" title="Property:P8201">ACUM work ID <small dir="ltr">(P8201)</small></a>. </p><p>@<a href="/wiki/User:%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A1%D7%9F" title="User:לוכסן"><bdi>לוכסן</bdi></a>: who proposed the duplicate, @<a href="/wiki/User:%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%A3" title="User:מקף"><bdi>מקף</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Kdkeller" title="User:Kdkeller"><bdi>Kdkeller</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Geagea" title="User:Geagea"><bdi>Geagea</bdi></a>: who supported the duplicate, @<a href="/wiki/User:ZI_Jony" title="User:ZI Jony"><bdi>ZI Jony</bdi></a>: who created the duplicate, and @<a href="/wiki/User:Tomer_T" title="User:Tomer T"><bdi>Tomer T</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A7" title="User:יונה בנדלאק"><bdi>יונה בנדלאק</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94" title="User:בורה בורה"><bdi>בורה בורה</bdi></a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Pamputt" title="User:Pamputt"><bdi>Pamputt</bdi></a>: involved in the property proposal for the original. <a href="/wiki/User:Mahir256" title="User:Mahir256">Mahir256</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mahir256" title="User talk:Mahir256"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117193900","author":"Mahir256","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990","replies":["c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900","c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mahir256-20241117193900-Property:P12990"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900"></span>Ya duplicate. <a href="/wiki/User:Geagea" title="User:Geagea">Geagea</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geagea" title="User talk:Geagea"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117212300","author":"Geagea","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geagea-20241117212300-Mahir256-20241117193900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b>, it’s duplicate! -- Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:ZI_Jony" title="User:ZI Jony"><span style="color:#8B0000"><b>ZI Jony</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZI_Jony" title="User talk:ZI Jony"><sup><span style="color:Green"><i>(Talk)</i></span></sup></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118035600","author":"ZI Jony","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900","replies":["c-\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZI_Jony-20241118035600-Mahir256-20241117193900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-לוכסן-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600"></span>Yes, an accidental duplicate in principle. I didn't realize that existed.</dd> <dd>But, <a href="/wiki/Property:P12990" title="Property:P12990">ACUM Work ID <small dir="ltr">(P12990)</small></a> specified (as I proposed) that the ID is six digits exactly (as always listed on the ACUM website, as in <a href="/wiki/Q16342332" title="Q16342332">Imagine <small>(Q16342332)</small></a> –> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://nocs.acum.org.il/acumsitesearchdb/work?workid=1251038">251038</a>, even though the URL has a "1" at the beginning (=1251038), making seven digits), but <a href="/wiki/Property:P8201" title="Property:P8201">ACUM work ID <small dir="ltr">(P8201)</small></a> doesn't specify (so probably seven digits, in a way that doesn't agree with how the ACUM website lists its IDs).</dd> <dd>So, I think the six digits is better.</dd> <dd>So, we should consider what to do here. <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A1%D7%9F" title="User:לוכסן">לוכסן</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A1%D7%9F" title="User talk:לוכסן"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-לוכסן-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-לוכסן-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118073500","author":"\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600","replies":["c-\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4_\u05d1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05d0\u05e7-20241118085000-\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df-20241118073500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-לוכסן-20241118073500-ZI_Jony-20241118035600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-יונה_בנדלאק-20241118085000-לוכסן-20241118073500"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> it's a dupicate. @<a href="/wiki/User:%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A1%D7%9F" title="User:לוכסן"><bdi>לוכסן</bdi></a>: can you update p8201 with additional data from p12990? - <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A7" title="User:יונה בנדלאק">yona b</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A7" title="User talk:יונה בנדלאק">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-יונה_בנדלאק-20241118085000-לוכסן-20241118073500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-יונה_בנדלאק-20241118085000-לוכסן-20241118073500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241118085000","author":"\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05d0\u05e7","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-\u05d9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d4_\u05d1\u05e0\u05d3\u05dc\u05d0\u05e7-20241118085000-\u05dc\u05d5\u05db\u05e1\u05df-20241118073500","replies":[],"displayName":"yona b"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-יונה_בנדלאק-20241118085000-לוכסן-20241118073500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mzaki-20241128122000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000","replies":["c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"],"text":"Property:P7456","linkableTitle":"Property:P7456"}--><h2 id="Property:P7456" data-mw-thread-id="h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P7456" title="Property:P7456">Property:P7456</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mzaki-20241128122000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000","replies":["c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000","timestamp":"20241128132500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mzaki-20241128122000","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Property:P7456-Properties-20241128122000","replies":["c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"],"text":"Property:P7456","linkableTitle":"Property:P7456"}--></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><span id="P7456"></span><a href="/wiki/Property:P7456" title="Property:P7456"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"></span>AAAS keyword ID <small dir="ltr">(P7456)</small></a>: <span class="rfd-links">(<a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7456&action=delete&wpReason=The+URL+formatter+doesn%27t+work+starting+from+mid-2021%2C+and+there+seems+no+replacement.+The+property+mostly+unused+%281+main+statement+%26+1+qualifier+other+than+example+cases%29.">delete</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7456&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P7456?namespace=0">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property:P7456&action=info#mw-pageinfo-header-properties">entity usage</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Property%3AP7456">logs</a> | <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P7456" title="Property talk:P7456">discussion</a>)</span></span> </p> <div style="VISIBILITY:hidden;display:none"> <a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_Gro%C3%9F" title="User:Jonathan Groß">Jonathan Groß</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jneubert" title="User:Jneubert">Jneubert</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sic19" title="User:Sic19">Sic19</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Wikidelo" title="User:Wikidelo">Wikidelo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:ArthurPSmith" title="User:ArthurPSmith">ArthurPSmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM">PKM</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ettorerizza" title="User:Ettorerizza">Ettorerizza</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Fuzheado" title="User:Fuzheado">Fuzheado</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen" title="User:Daniel Mietchen">Daniel Mietchen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Iwan.Aucamp" title="User:Iwan.Aucamp">Iwan.Aucamp</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ep%C3%ACdosis" title="User:Epìdosis">Epìdosis</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Sotho_Tal_Ker" title="User:Sotho Tal Ker">Sotho Tal Ker</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Bargioni" title="User:Bargioni">Bargioni</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Carlobia" title="User:Carlobia">Carlobia</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pablo_Busatto" title="User:Pablo Busatto">Pablo Busatto</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Matlin" title="User:Matlin">Matlin</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Msuicat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Msuicat (page does not exist)">Msuicat</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Uomovariabile" title="User:Uomovariabile">Uomovariabile</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Silva_Selva" title="User:Silva Selva">Silva Selva</a> <a href="/wiki/User:1-Byte" title="User:1-Byte">1-Byte</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Alessandra.Moi" title="User:Alessandra.Moi">Alessandra.Moi</a> <a href="/wiki/User:CamelCaseNick" title="User:CamelCaseNick">CamelCaseNick</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Songceci" title="User:Songceci">Songceci</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Elena_moz" title="User:Elena moz">moz</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AhavaCohen" title="User:AhavaCohen">AhavaCohen</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> <a href="/wiki/User:RShigapov" title="User:RShigapov">RShigapov</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jason.nlw" title="User:Jason.nlw">Jason.nlw</a> <a href="/wiki/User:MasterRus21thCentury" title="User:MasterRus21thCentury">MasterRus21thCentury</a> <a href="/wiki/User:NGOgo" title="User:NGOgo">NGOgo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pierre_Tribhou" title="User:Pierre Tribhou">Pierre Tribhou</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ahatd" title="User:Ahatd">Ahatd</a> <a href="/wiki/User:JordanTimothyJames" title="User:JordanTimothyJames">JordanTimothyJames</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Silviafanti" title="User:Silviafanti">Silviafanti</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Back_ache" title="User:Back ache">Back ache</a> <a href="/wiki/User:AfricanLibrarian" title="User:AfricanLibrarian">AfricanLibrarian</a> <a href="/wiki/User:M.roszkowski" title="User:M.roszkowski">M.roszkowski</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Rhagfyr" title="User:Rhagfyr">Rhagfyr</a> <a href="/wiki/User:%E6%B2%88%E6%BE%84%E5%BF%83" title="User:沈澄心">沈澄心</a> <a href="/wiki/User:MrBenjo" title="User:MrBenjo">MrBenjo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:S.v.Mering" title="User:S.v.Mering">S.v.Mering</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Hiperterminal" title="User:Hiperterminal">Hiperterminal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hiperterminal" title="User talk:Hiperterminal"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%A3" title="User:מקף">מקף</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Lovelano" title="User:Lovelano">Lovelano</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ecravo" title="User:Ecravo">Ecravo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Chado07" title="User:Chado07">Chado07</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Soufiyouns" title="User:Soufiyouns">Soufiyouns</a> </div><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> Notified <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Authority_control/Participants" title="Wikidata:WikiProject Authority control/Participants">participants of WikiProject Authority control</a>, @<a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Pigsonthewing</a>(proposer), @<a href="/wiki/User:Pintoch" title="User:Pintoch">Pintoch</a>(creator) </p><p>The URL formatter doesn't work starting from mid-2021, and there seems no replacement. This property is mostly unused (1 main statement & 1 qualifier other than example cases). —<a href="/wiki/User:Mzaki" title="User:Mzaki">Mzaki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mzaki" title="User talk:Mzaki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241128122000","author":"Mzaki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456","replies":["c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000","c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mzaki-20241128122000-Property:P7456"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> That's unfortunate that they removed the website. I don't see any point keeping it with such low usage here. <a href="/wiki/User:ArthurPSmith" title="User:ArthurPSmith">ArthurPSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArthurPSmith" title="User talk:ArthurPSmith"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241128125900","author":"ArthurPSmith","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArthurPSmith-20241128125900-Mzaki-20241128122000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Symbol_delete_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_delete_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Delete</b> +1 --<a href="/wiki/User:NGOgo" title="User:NGOgo">NGOgo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NGOgo" title="User talk:NGOgo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/All#c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241128132500","author":"NGOgo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NGOgo-20241128132500-Mzaki-20241128122000"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading1"><h1 id="Items" data-mw-thread-id="h-Items"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Items"></span>Items<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Items"></span></h1></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions" title="Wikidata:Requests for deletions">Wikidata:Requests for deletions</a><!-- WARNING: template omitted, post-expand include size too large --> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐5c59558b9d‐bsrzt Cached time: 20241201064518 Cache expiry: 21600 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.117 seconds CPU time usage: 3.144 seconds Real time usage: 4.782 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 74057/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 1925137/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 200972/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 22/100 Expensive parser function count: 229/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 1833/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.988/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3107230/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/500 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 3762.051 1 -total 75.06% 2823.787 1 Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions 53.20% 2001.577 221 Template:Rfd_links 40.11% 1508.867 645 Template:Label 34.37% 1292.905 489 Template:Q 28.31% 1065.156 198 Template:Q+ 23.83% 896.339 1 Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion 11.55% 434.610 200 Template:Autodescription 8.03% 302.130 131 Template:P 5.06% 190.279 19 Template:Rfd_group/1 --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key wikidatawiki:pcache:idhash:14036275-0!canonical and timestamp 20241201064518 and revision id 1565634353. 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