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08:51:30</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='2' data-id='1450991873275817984'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bujutsu_ken' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">武術屋@元・東京‘古流'武術研究会</strong> <span class="status_name">@bujutsu_ken</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>コロナで建設事業が世界的に冷え込む →世界中の製材所、原産地が半休業状態 →コロナ終息の気配に中国、アメリカがいち早く建設事業再開、大量の木材確保 →原産地、製材所は急な需要に対応遅れる →供給不足により価格高騰 →日本商社は価格交渉 →売り手が値引きに応じず交渉ストップ（←いまココ）</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken/status/1450991873275817984" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 10:06:35</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='3' data-id='1450992495177846786'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bujutsu_ken' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">武術屋@元・東京‘古流'武術研究会</strong> <span class="status_name">@bujutsu_ken</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>間違ってる部分もあるかと思いますが、だいたいこんなイメージかと。 <span class="f20 c01">国内の在庫は大手ハウス系メーカーが確保しているので、実質在庫ｾﾞﾛ。</span> <span class="f20 c01">９月頃までは国内販売会社が頑張って国内産木材を海外製品と同じ値段で出していたがそれも限界に。みたいな</span>。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken/status/1450992495177846786" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 10:09:03</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_url clearfix'> <span class="content"> <span class="label">リンク</span> <span class="site_name"> www.mlit.go.jp </span> </span> <span class="title"> <a href="https://www.mlit.go.jp/jutakukentiku/jutakukentiku_house_tk4_000080.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"> 住宅：木材の品薄・価格高騰について - 国土交通省 </a> </span> <span class="desc"> 国土交通省のウェブサイトです。政策、報道発表資料、統計情報、各種申請手続きに関する情報などを掲載しています。 </span> <span class="site_data"> <span class="count_facebook bindclick" data-href="https://www.mlit.go.jp/jutakukentiku/jutakukentiku_house_tk4_000080.html"> <svg class="svg-icon fa-facebook-square"><use xlink:href="#facebook-square" /></svg>3</span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='1451331896848183299'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/notakiko' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="5" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">あきこ💛</strong> <span class="status_name">@notakiko</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c03"><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 家建てるのに2〜300万ほどお値段高くなるらしいですね………震</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/notakiko/status/1451331896848183299" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 08:37:43</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='6' data-id='1451165301496692736'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/asitafukukazeni' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">asitafukukazeni</strong> <span class="status_name">@asitafukukazeni</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 「お値段以上」がモットーの会社ですが、倍額だとそのモットーを維持できる！？</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/asitafukukazeni/status/1451165301496692736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 21:35:43</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='7' data-id='1451308024384016384'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/Takamit15865988' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Takamitsu　さぁぁーって、どれでしょう!</strong> <span class="status_name">@Takamit15865988</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> ニトリを否定しませんが、家具とか中古屋でカリモクとか老舗の国産メーカーとかもええですよ。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/Takamit15865988/status/1451308024384016384" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 07:02:51</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="8"> <div class="type_markdown"> <nav class='show_headings'> <span>目次</span> <ul> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h8_0">確かに手に入らない</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h15_0">高騰の話は以前からあった</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h34_0">国産の木があるのでは？</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h46_0">木以外にも価格が高騰している</a></li> </ul> </nav> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">確かに手に入らない <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1791748');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='9' data-id='1451248412154687489'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/ororot' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">とろろ</strong> <span class="status_name">@ororot</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> だーかーらーかー！ <span class="f17 c03">ちょっと最近、ニトリで大きめ買い物したんですが、最低ひと月待ちだったんですよね。</span> 急に必要だったので、あちこち見てから選ぶ暇なく、すぐ用意できそう〜と思っていたので、焦りました。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ororot/status/1451248412154687489" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 03:05:59</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='10' data-id='1451243612402946050'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/NanasiKh' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="9" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Nanasi</strong> <span class="status_name">@NanasiKh</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> ニトリの家具は納品も遅れていて9月に組み立て家具を購入した時に値段は変わっていなかったのですが納品まで3ヶ月といわれ来月に受け取る予定です。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/NanasiKh/status/1451243612402946050" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 02:46:54</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='11' data-id='1450994627020922884'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/ntsuru' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="10" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">ntsuru</strong> <span class="status_name">@ntsuru</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c03"><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> おかげで、ＤＩＹのための良い２ｘ４材の入手に四苦八苦です。歪んでいる材は余ってるけどねぇ...</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ntsuru/status/1450994627020922884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 10:17:31</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='12' data-id='1451005965487075335'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bujutsu_ken' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">武術屋@元・東京‘古流'武術研究会</strong> <span class="status_name">@bujutsu_ken</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/ntsuru" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@ntsuru</a> ＬＶＬ材（２７×４０）の材ならホームセンターでも結構在庫あるんですけど、あれも値段あがってきてますねえ。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken/status/1451005965487075335" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 11:02:35</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='13' data-id='1451188135279226884'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/smaccino' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="11" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">すまちぃの</strong> <span class="status_name">@smaccino</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/ntsuru" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@ntsuru</a> <a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 先日縁台の補修で2×材買いに県内で一番デカイホムセン行ったら「在庫のみ大量受注不可次回納品見込みたたず」と大書きされてたなぁ....</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/smaccino/status/1451188135279226884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 23:06:27</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='1451213030000267273'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/moke2xp' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="12" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">CADシステム屋</strong> <span class="status_name">@moke2xp</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 木造住宅とか偉いことになってそう</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/moke2xp/status/1451213030000267273" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 00:45:23</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="15"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">高騰の話は以前からあった <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1791748');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='16' data-id='1451173653710729226'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/ren02124' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="13" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">蓮華</strong> <span class="status_name">@ren02124</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c11"><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 以前、ラジオで聞きましたでも、ニュースじゃ取り上げてませんね…</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ren02124/status/1451173653710729226" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 22:08:55</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='17' data-id='1451317825876869135'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/jomae1685' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="14" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">藤ヶ原郁都@VTuberオタク発達障害者</strong> <span class="status_name">@jomae1685</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 数ヶ月前に高騰してた記憶があるのですがまた更に上がったんですか？</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/jomae1685/status/1451317825876869135" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 07:41:48</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='18' data-id='1451180707074641930'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/syuraba_Tyaba' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="15" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">茶葉@発酵中</strong> <span class="status_name">@syuraba_Tyaba</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c11"><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 実は結構前から影響出てたんですよね。落ち着いてからも値が下がるまでどれくらいかかるやら…</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/syuraba_Tyaba/status/1451180707074641930" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 22:36:56</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='19' data-id='1451344481781911554'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/otibi6' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="16" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Jelly-Fish</strong> <span class="status_name">@otibi6</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> フォロワー外から… 家具屋です…輸入家具屋です… <span class="f17 c11">11月から物によっては2万円以上上がってしまう物もあり…お客様に焦らせて決断して欲しいわけではないのにお伝えしなきゃ行けないのが心苦しいです…</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/otibi6/status/1451344481781911554" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-22 09:27:43</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='20' data-id='1450993130577096705'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bujutsu_ken' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">武術屋@元・東京‘古流'武術研究会</strong> <span class="status_name">@bujutsu_ken</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/juno_moegi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@juno_moegi</a> 先行きが読めない状況でして、今後も上がっていくと予想されています。んが、案外あっさりと年明け位に値崩れおこす可能性もあり、コレほんとコロナの終息次第なのと、原産地であるブラジル中国ロシアの労働者のやる気（こっちが完全に予測不可能）次第なので、買う人は早めの方がいいのかな、と。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken/status/1450993130577096705" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2021-10-21 10:11:35</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='21' data-id='1451304366804123659'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/z7DuuwGEMpDVLSp' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="17" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">さーもん</strong> <span class="status_name">@z7DuuwGEMpDVLSp</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c11"><a href="https://x.com/Rx0073LT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@Rx0073LT</a> <a href="https://x.com/bujutsu_ken" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@bujutsu_ken</a> 今年の春先にはウッドショックの影響で木材が入らない、と知った大手は軒並み国産木材を抑えに回ってますよ。その影響で地場の工務店は木材の納期が２ヶ月待ち…なんてのはザラでお客様への納期は伸びる一方です。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/z7DuuwGEMpDVLSp/status/1451304366804123659" target="_blank" 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