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data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-toc.pin">skuif na kantbalk</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-toc.unpin">versteek</button> </div> <ul class="vector-toc-contents" id="mw-panel-toc-list"> <li id="toc-mw-content-text" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a href="#" class="vector-toc-link"> <div class="vector-toc-text">Inleiding</div> </a> </li> <li id="toc-waarvan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#waarvan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">1</span> <span>waarvan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-waarvan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kleure" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kleure"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>Kleure</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Kleure-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Transliterasie-inskrywings" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Transliterasie-inskrywings"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>Transliterasie-inskrywings</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Transliterasie-inskrywings-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ons_ou_vriende..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ons_ou_vriende..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Ons ou vriende...</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Ons_ou_vriende...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Woordsoortontleding" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Woordsoortontleding"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Woordsoortontleding</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Woordsoortontleding-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Frases en vaste begrippe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Voorspoedige_2018!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Voorspoedige_2018!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>Voorspoedige 2018!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Voorspoedige_2018!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nm-_en_fm-sjablone"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Nm- en fm-sjablone</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Posisie_68!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Posisie_68!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Posisie 68!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Posisie_68!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia_skakel" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia_skakel"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Wikipedia skakel</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia_skakel-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-19,000_woorde!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#19,000_woorde!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>19,000 woorde!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-19,000_woorde!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vaste_uitdrukking" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vaste_uitdrukking"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Vaste uitdrukking</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Vaste_uitdrukking-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Klankopnames" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Klankopnames"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Klankopnames</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Klankopnames-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Voorbeeldblad" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Voorbeeldblad"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Voorbeeldblad</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Voorbeeldblad-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Begeerde_inskrywing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Begeerde_inskrywing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Begeerde inskrywing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Begeerde_inskrywing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bots_begeerd" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bots_begeerd"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Bots begeerd</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Bots_begeerd-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Video" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Video"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Video</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Video-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikiquote" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikiquote"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Wikiquote</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Wikiquote-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Besoek" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Besoek"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Besoek</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Besoek-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tydperke" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tydperke"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Tydperke</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Tydperke-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-20_000_woorde!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#20_000_woorde!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>20 000 woorde!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-20_000_woorde!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Tell us what you think about the automatic links for Wiktionary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AdvancedSearch" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AdvancedSearch"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>AdvancedSearch</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-AdvancedSearch-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Lexicographical data is now available on Wikidata</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Update on page issues on mobile web</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Global_preferences_are_available" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Global_preferences_are_available"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Global preferences are available</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Global_preferences_are_available-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Consultation on the creation of a separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>New user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_now" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_now"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Editing of sitewide CSS/JS is only possible for interface administrators from now</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_now-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Read-only mode for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_GFDL_license_on_Commons" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_GFDL_license_on_Commons"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>The GFDL license on Commons</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-The_GFDL_license_on_Commons-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Reminder: No editing for up to an hour on 10 October</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Community_Wishlist_Survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Community_Wishlist_Survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>The Community Wishlist Survey</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-The_Community_Wishlist_Survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Community Wishlist Survey vote</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Advanced_Search" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Advanced_Search"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Advanced Search</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Advanced_Search-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bladsy_titel_verander?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bladsy_titel_verander?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Bladsy titel verander?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Bladsy_titel_verander?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>New Wikimedia password policy and requirements</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedia_Summit_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedia_Summit_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Selection of the Tremendous Wiktionary User Group representative to the Wikimedia Summit 2019</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedia_Summit_2019-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FileExporter_beta_feature" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FileExporter_beta_feature"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>FileExporter beta feature</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-FileExporter_beta_feature-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>No editing for 30 minutes 17 January</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk_to_us_about_talking" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk_to_us_about_talking"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Talk to us about talking</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Talk_to_us_about_talking-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 opmerking</span> <ul id="toc-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Uitspraakriglyne" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Uitspraakriglyne"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Uitspraakriglyne</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 opmerkings</span> <ul id="toc-Uitspraakriglyne-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arabiese_transliterasie" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arabiese_transliterasie"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>አማርኛ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-an mw-list-item"><a href="https://an.wiktionary.org/wiki/Biquizionario:Tabierna" title="Biquizionario:Tabierna – Aragonees" lang="an" hreflang="an" data-title="Biquizionario:Tabierna" data-language-autonym="Aragonés" data-language-local-name="Aragonees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aragonés</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ang mw-list-item"><a href="https://ang.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikiwordb%C5%8Dc:Ealuh%C5%ABs" title="Wikiwordbōc:Ealuhūs – Old English" lang="ang" hreflang="ang" data-title="Wikiwordbōc:Ealuhūs" data-language-autonym="Ænglisc" data-language-local-name="Old English" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Ænglisc</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ar mw-list-item"><a href="https://ar.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86" title="ويكاموس:الميدان – Arabies" lang="ar" hreflang="ar" data-title="ويكاموس:الميدان" data-language-autonym="العربية" data-language-local-name="Arabies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ast mw-list-item"><a href="https://ast.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikcionariu:Chigre" title="Wikcionariu:Chigre – Asturies" lang="ast" hreflang="ast" data-title="Wikcionariu:Chigre" data-language-autonym="Asturianu" data-language-local-name="Asturies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Asturianu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ay mw-list-item"><a href="https://ay.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Jayma_punku" title="Wiktionary:Jayma punku – Aymara" lang="ay" hreflang="ay" data-title="Wiktionary:Jayma punku" data-language-autonym="Aymar aru" data-language-local-name="Aymara" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Aymar aru</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-az mw-list-item"><a href="https://az.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikil%C3%BC%C4%9F%C9%99t:K%C9%99nd_meydan%C4%B1" title="Vikilüğət:Kənd meydanı – Azerbeidjans" lang="az" hreflang="az" data-title="Vikilüğət:Kənd meydanı" data-language-autonym="Azərbaycanca" data-language-local-name="Azerbeidjans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Azərbaycanca</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-be mw-list-item"><a href="https://be.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%9E%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%BA:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Вікіслоўнік:Форум – Belarussies" lang="be" hreflang="be" data-title="Вікіслоўнік:Форум" data-language-autonym="Беларуская" data-language-local-name="Belarussies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Беларуская</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bg mw-list-item"><a href="https://bg.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8" title="Уикиречник:Разговори – Bulgaars" lang="bg" hreflang="bg" data-title="Уикиречник:Разговори" data-language-autonym="Български" data-language-local-name="Bulgaars" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Български</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bjn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bjn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikikamus:Warung_Kupi" title="Wikikamus:Warung Kupi – Banjar" lang="bjn" hreflang="bjn" data-title="Wikikamus:Warung Kupi" data-language-autonym="Banjar" data-language-local-name="Banjar" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Banjar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bn mw-list-item"><a href="https://bn.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%85%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%A7%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A8:%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B2%E0%A7%8B%E0%A6%9A%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE" title="উইকিঅভিধান:আলোচনাসভা – Bengaals" lang="bn" hreflang="bn" data-title="উইকিঅভিধান:আলোচনাসভা" data-language-autonym="বাংলা" data-language-local-name="Bengaals" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>বাংলা</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-br mw-list-item"><a href="https://br.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikeriadur:Wikiakademiezh" title="Wikeriadur:Wikiakademiezh – Bretons" lang="br" hreflang="br" data-title="Wikeriadur:Wikiakademiezh" data-language-autonym="Brezhoneg" data-language-local-name="Bretons" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Brezhoneg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-bs mw-list-item"><a href="https://bs.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikirje%C4%8Dnik:%C4%8Car%C5%A1ija" title="Wikirječnik:Čaršija – Bosnies" lang="bs" hreflang="bs" data-title="Wikirječnik:Čaršija" data-language-autonym="Bosanski" data-language-local-name="Bosnies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bosanski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-btm mw-list-item"><a href="https://btm.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikikamus:Lopo_Kopi" title="Wikikamus:Lopo Kopi – Batak Mandailing" lang="btm" hreflang="btm" data-title="Wikikamus:Lopo Kopi" data-language-autonym="Batak Mandailing" data-language-local-name="Batak Mandailing" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Batak Mandailing</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ca mw-list-item"><a href="https://ca.wiktionary.org/wiki/Viccionari:La_taverna" title="Viccionari:La taverna – Katalaans" lang="ca" hreflang="ca" data-title="Viccionari:La taverna" data-language-autonym="Català" data-language-local-name="Katalaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Català</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-co mw-list-item"><a href="https://co.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizziunariu:Cumunit%C3%A0" title="Wikizziunariu:Cumunità – Korsikaans" lang="co" hreflang="co" data-title="Wikizziunariu:Cumunità" data-language-autonym="Corsu" data-language-local-name="Korsikaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Corsu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cs mw-list-item"><a href="https://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikislovn%C3%ADk:Pod_l%C3%ADpou" title="Wikislovník:Pod lípou – Tsjeggies" lang="cs" hreflang="cs" data-title="Wikislovník:Pod lípou" data-language-autonym="Čeština" data-language-local-name="Tsjeggies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Čeština</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-cy mw-list-item"><a href="https://cy.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiciadur:Y_Dafarn" title="Wiciadur:Y Dafarn – Wallies" lang="cy" hreflang="cy" data-title="Wiciadur:Y Dafarn" data-language-autonym="Cymraeg" data-language-local-name="Wallies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Cymraeg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-da mw-list-item"><a href="https://da.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Landsbybr%C3%B8nden" title="Wiktionary:Landsbybrønden – Deens" lang="da" hreflang="da" data-title="Wiktionary:Landsbybrønden" data-language-autonym="Dansk" data-language-local-name="Deens" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Dansk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-de mw-list-item"><a href="https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Teestube" title="Wiktionary:Teestube – Duits" lang="de" hreflang="de" data-title="Wiktionary:Teestube" data-language-autonym="Deutsch" data-language-local-name="Duits" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Deutsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-dv mw-list-item"><a href="https://dv.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DE%88%DE%A8%DE%86%DE%A8%DE%83%DE%A6%DE%8B%DE%A9%DE%8A%DE%AA:%DE%A2%DE%A7%DE%82%DE%B0%DE%89%DE%AA_%DE%80%DE%AE%DE%85%DE%AA%DE%87%DE%A6%DE%81%DE%A8" title="ވިކިރަދީފު:ޢާންމު ހޮޅުއަށި – Divehi" lang="dv" hreflang="dv" data-title="ވިކިރަދީފު:ޢާންމު ހޮޅުއަށި" data-language-autonym="ދިވެހިބަސް" data-language-local-name="Divehi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ދިވެހިބަސް</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-en mw-list-item"><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Beer_parlour" title="Wiktionary:Beer parlour – Engels" lang="en" hreflang="en" data-title="Wiktionary:Beer parlour" data-language-autonym="English" data-language-local-name="Engels" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eo mw-list-item"><a href="https://eo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikivortaro:Diskutejo" title="Vikivortaro:Diskutejo – Esperanto" lang="eo" hreflang="eo" data-title="Vikivortaro:Diskutejo" data-language-autonym="Esperanto" data-language-local-name="Esperanto" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Esperanto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-es mw-list-item"><a href="https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikcionario:Caf%C3%A9" title="Wikcionario:Café – Spaans" lang="es" hreflang="es" data-title="Wikcionario:Café" data-language-autonym="Español" data-language-local-name="Spaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Español</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-et mw-list-item"><a href="https://et.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikis%C3%B5nastik:%C3%9Cldine_arutelu" title="Vikisõnastik:Üldine arutelu – Estnies" lang="et" hreflang="et" data-title="Vikisõnastik:Üldine arutelu" data-language-autonym="Eesti" data-language-local-name="Estnies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Eesti</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-eu mw-list-item"><a href="https://eu.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Txokoa" title="Wiktionary:Txokoa – Baskies" lang="eu" hreflang="eu" data-title="Wiktionary:Txokoa" data-language-autonym="Euskara" data-language-local-name="Baskies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Euskara</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%88%D8%A7%DA%98%D9%87:%D9%82%D9%87%D9%88%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87" title="ویکی‌واژه:قهوه‌خانه – Persies" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="ویکی‌واژه:قهوه‌خانه" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fi mw-list-item"><a href="https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisanakirja:Kahvihuone" title="Wikisanakirja:Kahvihuone – Fins" lang="fi" hreflang="fi" data-title="Wikisanakirja:Kahvihuone" data-language-autonym="Suomi" data-language-local-name="Fins" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Suomi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fj mw-list-item"><a href="https://fj.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Soqosoqo_toso" title="Wiktionary:Soqosoqo toso – Fidjiaans" lang="fj" hreflang="fj" data-title="Wiktionary:Soqosoqo toso" data-language-autonym="Na Vosa Vakaviti" data-language-local-name="Fidjiaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Na Vosa Vakaviti</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fo mw-list-item"><a href="https://fo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Undirh%C3%BAsi%C3%B0" title="Wiktionary:Undirhúsið – Faroëes" lang="fo" hreflang="fo" data-title="Wiktionary:Undirhúsið" data-language-autonym="Føroyskt" data-language-local-name="Faroëes" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Føroyskt</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fr mw-list-item"><a href="https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:Wikid%C3%A9mie" title="Wiktionnaire:Wikidémie – Frans" lang="fr" hreflang="fr" data-title="Wiktionnaire:Wikidémie" data-language-autonym="Français" data-language-local-name="Frans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Français</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fy mw-list-item"><a href="https://fy.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikiwurdboek:Buorren" title="Wikiwurdboek:Buorren – Fries" lang="fy" hreflang="fy" data-title="Wikiwurdboek:Buorren" data-language-autonym="Frysk" data-language-local-name="Fries" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Frysk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ga mw-list-item"><a href="https://ga.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vic%C3%ADfhocl%C3%B3ir:Halla_Baile" title="Vicífhoclóir:Halla Baile – Iers" lang="ga" hreflang="ga" data-title="Vicífhoclóir:Halla Baile" data-language-autonym="Gaeilge" data-language-local-name="Iers" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gaeilge</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gd mw-list-item"><a href="https://gd.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Doras_na_coimhearsnachd" title="Wiktionary:Doras na coimhearsnachd – Skotse Gallies" lang="gd" hreflang="gd" data-title="Wiktionary:Doras na coimhearsnachd" data-language-autonym="Gàidhlig" data-language-local-name="Skotse Gallies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gàidhlig</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gl mw-list-item"><a href="https://gl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Taberna" title="Wiktionary:Taberna – Galisies" lang="gl" hreflang="gl" data-title="Wiktionary:Taberna" data-language-autonym="Galego" data-language-local-name="Galisies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Galego</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gn mw-list-item"><a href="https://gn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Portal_de_la_comunidad" title="Wiktionary:Portal de la comunidad – Guarani" lang="gn" hreflang="gn" data-title="Wiktionary:Portal de la comunidad" data-language-autonym="Avañe'ẽ" data-language-local-name="Guarani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Avañe'ẽ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gom mw-list-item"><a href="https://gom.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80:Tintto" title="विक्शनरी:Tintto – Goan Konkani" lang="gom" hreflang="gom" data-title="विक्शनरी:Tintto" data-language-autonym="गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni" data-language-local-name="Goan Konkani" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>गोंयची कोंकणी / Gõychi Konknni</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gu mw-list-item"><a href="https://gu.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%AA%B5%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%95%E0%AA%BF%E0%AA%95%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%B6:%E0%AA%9A%E0%AB%8B%E0%AA%B0%E0%AB%8B" title="વિકિકોશ:ચોરો – Goedjarati" lang="gu" hreflang="gu" data-title="વિકિકોશ:ચોરો" data-language-autonym="ગુજરાતી" data-language-local-name="Goedjarati" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ગુજરાતી</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-gv mw-list-item"><a href="https://gv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Thie_Oast" title="Wiktionary:Thie Oast – Manx" lang="gv" hreflang="gv" data-title="Wiktionary:Thie Oast" data-language-autonym="Gaelg" data-language-local-name="Manx" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Gaelg</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-he mw-list-item"><a href="https://he.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%9F:%D7%9E%D7%96%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%9F" title="ויקימילון:מזנון – Hebreeus" lang="he" hreflang="he" data-title="ויקימילון:מזנון" data-language-autonym="עברית" data-language-local-name="Hebreeus" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>עברית</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hi mw-list-item"><a href="https://hi.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2/%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9C%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%BE_%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%82%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8" title="विक्षनरी:चौपाल/अंग्रेजीभाषा दूतावास – Hindi" lang="hi" hreflang="hi" data-title="विक्षनरी:चौपाल/अंग्रेजीभाषा दूतावास" data-language-autonym="हिन्दी" data-language-local-name="Hindi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>हिन्दी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hif mw-list-item"><a href="https://hif.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sabdkosh:Samaj_Portal" title="Sabdkosh:Samaj Portal – Fiji Hindi" lang="hif" hreflang="hif" data-title="Sabdkosh:Samaj Portal" data-language-autonym="Fiji Hindi" data-language-local-name="Fiji Hindi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Fiji Hindi</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hr mw-list-item"><a href="https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wje%C4%8Dnik:Konoba" title="Wječnik:Konoba – Kroaties" lang="hr" hreflang="hr" data-title="Wječnik:Konoba" data-language-autonym="Hrvatski" data-language-local-name="Kroaties" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hrvatski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hsb mw-list-item"><a href="https://hsb.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikis%C5%82ownik:Portal" title="Wikisłownik:Portal – Oppersorbies" lang="hsb" hreflang="hsb" data-title="Wikisłownik:Portal" data-language-autonym="Hornjoserbsce" data-language-local-name="Oppersorbies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Hornjoserbsce</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hu mw-list-item"><a href="https://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisz%C3%B3t%C3%A1r:T%C3%A1rsalg%C3%B3" title="Wikiszótár:Társalgó – Hongaars" lang="hu" hreflang="hu" data-title="Wikiszótár:Társalgó" data-language-autonym="Magyar" data-language-local-name="Hongaars" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Magyar</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hy mw-list-item"><a href="https://hy.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D5%8E%D5%AB%D6%84%D5%AB%D5%A2%D5%A1%D5%BC%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6:%D4%BD%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%B0%D6%80%D5%A4%D5%A1%D6%80%D5%A1%D5%B6" title="Վիքիբառարան:Խորհրդարան – Armeens" lang="hy" hreflang="hy" data-title="Վիքիբառարան:Խորհրդարան" data-language-autonym="Հայերեն" data-language-local-name="Armeens" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Հայերեն</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ia mw-list-item"><a href="https://ia.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionario:Portal_del_communitate" title="Wiktionario:Portal del communitate – Interlingua" lang="ia" hreflang="ia" data-title="Wiktionario:Portal del communitate" data-language-autonym="Interlingua" data-language-local-name="Interlingua" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Interlingua</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-id mw-list-item"><a href="https://id.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikikamus:Warung_Kopi" title="Wikikamus:Warung Kopi – Indonesies" lang="id" hreflang="id" data-title="Wikikamus:Warung Kopi" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Indonesia" data-language-local-name="Indonesies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Indonesia</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ik mw-list-item"><a href="https://ik.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Qargi" title="Wiktionary:Qargi – Inupiaq" lang="ik" hreflang="ik" data-title="Wiktionary:Qargi" data-language-autonym="Iñupiatun" data-language-local-name="Inupiaq" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Iñupiatun</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-is mw-list-item"><a href="https://is.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikior%C3%B0ab%C3%B3k:Potturinn" title="Wikiorðabók:Potturinn – Yslands" lang="is" hreflang="is" data-title="Wikiorðabók:Potturinn" data-language-autonym="Íslenska" data-language-local-name="Yslands" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Íslenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-it mw-list-item"><a href="https://it.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizionario:Bar" title="Wikizionario:Bar – Italiaans" lang="it" hreflang="it" data-title="Wikizionario:Bar" data-language-autonym="Italiano" data-language-local-name="Italiaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Italiano</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-iu mw-list-item"><a href="https://iu.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:%E1%96%83%E1%92%A1%E1%92%8B%E1%96%85" title="Wiktionary:ᖃᒡᒋᖅ – Inoektitoet" lang="iu" hreflang="iu" data-title="Wiktionary:ᖃᒡᒋᖅ" data-language-autonym="ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ / inuktitut" data-language-local-name="Inoektitoet" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ / inuktitut</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ja mw-list-item"><a href="https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86%E5%AE%A4" title="Wiktionary:編集室 – Japannees" lang="ja" hreflang="ja" data-title="Wiktionary:編集室" data-language-autonym="日本語" data-language-local-name="Japannees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>日本語</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jbo mw-list-item"><a href="https://jbo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:bende_ckupau" title="Wiktionary:bende ckupau – Lojban" lang="jbo" hreflang="jbo" data-title="Wiktionary:bende ckupau" data-language-autonym="La .lojban." data-language-local-name="Lojban" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>La .lojban.</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-jv mw-list-item"><a href="https://jv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisastra:Angkringan" title="Wikisastra:Angkringan – Javaans" lang="jv" hreflang="jv" data-title="Wikisastra:Angkringan" data-language-autonym="Jawa" data-language-local-name="Javaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Jawa</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a href="https://ka.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%83%95%E1%83%98%E1%83%A5%E1%83%A1%E1%83%98%E1%83%99%E1%83%9D%E1%83%9C%E1%83%98:%E1%83%A1%E1%83%90%E1%83%96%E1%83%9D%E1%83%92%E1%83%90%E1%83%93%E1%83%9D%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%98%E1%83%A1_%E1%83%92%E1%83%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%A0%E1%83%93%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%98" title="ვიქსიკონი:საზოგადოების გვერდები – Georgies" lang="ka" hreflang="ka" data-title="ვიქსიკონი:საზოგადოების გვერდები" data-language-autonym="ქართული" data-language-local-name="Georgies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ქართული</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kl mw-list-item"><a href="https://kl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Community_Portal" title="Wiktionary:Community Portal – Kalaallisut" lang="kl" hreflang="kl" data-title="Wiktionary:Community Portal" data-language-autonym="Kalaallisut" data-language-local-name="Kalaallisut" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kalaallisut</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-km mw-list-item"><a href="https://km.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:%E1%9E%95%E1%9E%8F%E1%9E%90%E1%9E%9B%E1%9E%9F%E1%9E%A0%E1%9E%82%E1%9E%98%E1%9E%93%E1%9F%8D" title="Wiktionary:ផតថលសហគមន៍ – Khmer" lang="km" hreflang="km" data-title="Wiktionary:ផតថលសហគមន៍" data-language-autonym="ភាសាខ្មែរ" data-language-local-name="Khmer" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ភាសាខ្មែរ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kn mw-list-item"><a href="https://kn.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B7%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%BF:%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B3%E0%B2%BF_%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%9F%E0%B3%86" title="ವಿಕ್ಷನರಿ:ಅರಳಿ ಕಟ್ಟೆ – Kannada" lang="kn" hreflang="kn" data-title="ವಿಕ್ಷನರಿ:ಅರಳಿ ಕಟ್ಟೆ" data-language-autonym="ಕನ್ನಡ" data-language-local-name="Kannada" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ಕನ್ನಡ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ko mw-list-item"><a href="https://ko.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4%EB%82%B1%EB%A7%90%EC%82%AC%EC%A0%84:%EC%9E%90%EC%9C%A0%EA%B2%8C%EC%8B%9C%ED%8C%90" title="위키낱말사전:자유게시판 – Koreaans" lang="ko" hreflang="ko" data-title="위키낱말사전:자유게시판" data-language-autonym="한국어" data-language-local-name="Koreaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>한국어</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ku mw-list-item"><a href="https://ku.wiktionary.org/wiki/W%C3%AEk%C3%AEferheng:D%C3%AEwan" title="Wîkîferheng:Dîwan – Koerdies" lang="ku" hreflang="ku" data-title="Wîkîferheng:Dîwan" data-language-autonym="Kurdî" data-language-local-name="Koerdies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kurdî</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-kw mw-list-item"><a href="https://kw.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:An_tavern" title="Wiktionary:An tavern – Kornies" lang="kw" hreflang="kw" data-title="Wiktionary:An tavern" data-language-autonym="Kernowek" data-language-local-name="Kornies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Kernowek</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-la mw-list-item"><a href="https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Victionarium:Taberna" title="Victionarium:Taberna – Latyn" lang="la" hreflang="la" data-title="Victionarium:Taberna" data-language-autonym="Latina" data-language-local-name="Latyn" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Latina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lb mw-list-item"><a href="https://lb.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionnaire:De_Staminee" title="Wiktionnaire:De Staminee – Luxemburgs" lang="lb" hreflang="lb" data-title="Wiktionnaire:De Staminee" data-language-autonym="Lëtzebuergesch" data-language-local-name="Luxemburgs" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lëtzebuergesch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lmo mw-list-item"><a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Bar" title="Wikizzionari:Bar – Lombard" lang="lmo" hreflang="lmo" data-title="Wikizzionari:Bar" data-language-autonym="Lombard" data-language-local-name="Lombard" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lombard</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lt mw-list-item"><a href="https://lt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Viki%C5%BEodynas:Baras" title="Vikižodynas:Baras – Litaus" lang="lt" hreflang="lt" data-title="Vikižodynas:Baras" data-language-autonym="Lietuvių" data-language-local-name="Litaus" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Lietuvių</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-lv mw-list-item"><a href="https://lv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikiv%C4%81rdn%C4%ABca:Kopienas_port%C4%81ls" title="Vikivārdnīca:Kopienas portāls – Letties" lang="lv" hreflang="lv" data-title="Vikivārdnīca:Kopienas portāls" data-language-autonym="Latviešu" data-language-local-name="Letties" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Latviešu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-min mw-list-item"><a href="https://min.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikikato:Kadai_kopi" title="Wikikato:Kadai kopi – Minangkabaus" lang="min" hreflang="min" data-title="Wikikato:Kadai kopi" data-language-autonym="Minangkabau" data-language-local-name="Minangkabaus" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Minangkabau</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mk mw-list-item"><a href="https://mk.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BC%D0%B0" title="Викиречник:Селска чешма – Masedonies" lang="mk" hreflang="mk" data-title="Викиречник:Селска чешма" data-language-autonym="Македонски" data-language-local-name="Masedonies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Македонски</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mni mw-list-item"><a href="https://mni.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EA%AF%8B%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%9B%EA%AF%81%EA%AF%9F%EA%AF%85%EA%AF%94%EA%AF%A4:%EA%AF%83%EA%AF%A4%EA%AF%8C%EA%AF%A5%EA%AF%9D%EA%AF%92%EA%AF%A4_%EA%AF%84%EA%AF%A8%EA%AF%9F%EA%AF%90%EA%AF%9D%EA%AF%8C%EA%AF%A5%EA%AF%8E%EA%AF%90%EA%AF%9D" title="ꯋꯤꯛꯁꯟꯅꯔꯤ:ꯃꯤꯌꯥꯝꯒꯤ ꯄꯨꯟꯐꯝꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝ – Manipuri" lang="mni" hreflang="mni" data-title="ꯋꯤꯛꯁꯟꯅꯔꯤ:ꯃꯤꯌꯥꯝꯒꯤ ꯄꯨꯟꯐꯝꯌꯥꯎꯐꯝ" data-language-autonym="ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯂꯣꯟ" data-language-local-name="Manipuri" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ꯃꯤꯇꯩ ꯂꯣꯟ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mnw mw-list-item"><a href="https://mnw.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%AD%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%BE%E1%80%B1%E1%80%94%E1%80%BA%E1%80%94%E1%80%9B%E1%80%B3:%E1%80%95%E1%80%AB%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%80%99%E1%80%AF%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA_%E1%80%82%E1%80%80%E1%80%B1%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B6" title="ဝိက်ရှေန်နရဳ:ပါင်မုက် ဂကောံ – Mon" lang="mnw" hreflang="mnw" data-title="ဝိက်ရှေန်နရဳ:ပါင်မုက် ဂကောံ" data-language-autonym="ဘာသာမန်" data-language-local-name="Mon" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ဘာသာမန်</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mr mw-list-item"><a href="https://mr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%A1%E0%A5%80" title="विक्शनरी:चावडी – Marathi" lang="mr" hreflang="mr" data-title="विक्शनरी:चावडी" data-language-autonym="मराठी" data-language-local-name="Marathi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>मराठी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ms mw-list-item"><a href="https://ms.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikikamus:Kedai_Kopi" title="Wikikamus:Kedai Kopi – Maleis" lang="ms" hreflang="ms" data-title="Wikikamus:Kedai Kopi" data-language-autonym="Bahasa Melayu" data-language-local-name="Maleis" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Bahasa Melayu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-mt mw-list-item"><a href="https://mt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzjunarju:Pjazza" title="Wikizzjunarju:Pjazza – Maltees" lang="mt" hreflang="mt" data-title="Wikizzjunarju:Pjazza" data-language-autonym="Malti" data-language-local-name="Maltees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Malti</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-my mw-list-item"><a href="https://my.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%80%9D%E1%80%85%E1%80%BA%E1%80%9B%E1%80%BE%E1%80%84%E1%80%BA%E1%80%94%E1%80%9B%E1%80%AE:%E1%80%A7%E1%80%8A%E1%80%B7%E1%80%BA%E1%80%81%E1%80%94%E1%80%BA%E1%80%B8" title="ဝစ်ရှင်နရီ:ဧည့်ခန်း – Birmaans" lang="my" hreflang="my" data-title="ဝစ်ရှင်နရီ:ဧည့်ခန်း" data-language-autonym="မြန်မာဘာသာ" data-language-local-name="Birmaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>မြန်မာဘာသာ</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nah mw-list-item"><a href="https://nah.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Tlecuitl" title="Wiktionary:Tlecuitl – Nahuatl" lang="nah" hreflang="nah" data-title="Wiktionary:Tlecuitl" data-language-autonym="Nāhuatl" data-language-local-name="Nahuatl" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nāhuatl</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nds mw-list-item"><a href="https://nds.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Teestuuv" title="Wiktionary:Teestuuv – Nederduits" lang="nds" hreflang="nds" data-title="Wiktionary:Teestuuv" data-language-autonym="Plattdüütsch" data-language-local-name="Nederduits" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Plattdüütsch</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nia mw-list-item"><a href="https://nia.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Monganga_afo" title="Wiktionary:Monganga afo – Nias" lang="nia" hreflang="nia" data-title="Wiktionary:Monganga afo" data-language-autonym="Li Niha" data-language-local-name="Nias" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Li Niha</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nl mw-list-item"><a href="https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:De_Kroeg" title="WikiWoordenboek:De Kroeg – Nederlands" lang="nl" hreflang="nl" data-title="WikiWoordenboek:De Kroeg" data-language-autonym="Nederlands" data-language-local-name="Nederlands" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Nederlands</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-nn mw-list-item"><a href="https://nn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Samfunnshuset" title="Wiktionary:Samfunnshuset – Nuwe Noors" lang="nn" hreflang="nn" data-title="Wiktionary:Samfunnshuset" data-language-autonym="Norsk nynorsk" data-language-local-name="Nuwe Noors" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norsk nynorsk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-no mw-list-item"><a href="https://no.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Tinget" title="Wiktionary:Tinget – Noors" lang="no" hreflang="no" data-title="Wiktionary:Tinget" data-language-autonym="Norsk" data-language-local-name="Noors" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Norsk</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-oc mw-list-item"><a href="https://oc.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikiccionari:Wikid%C3%A8mia" title="Wikiccionari:Wikidèmia – Oksitaans" lang="oc" hreflang="oc" data-title="Wikiccionari:Wikidèmia" data-language-autonym="Occitan" data-language-local-name="Oksitaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Occitan</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pl mw-list-item"><a href="https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikis%C5%82ownik:Bar" title="Wikisłownik:Bar – Pools" lang="pl" hreflang="pl" data-title="Wikisłownik:Bar" data-language-autonym="Polski" data-language-local-name="Pools" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Polski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pnb mw-list-item"><a href="https://pnb.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%A9%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%B1%DB%8C:%D8%B3%D8%AA%DA%BE%D9%91" title="وکشنری:ستھّ – Western Punjabi" lang="pnb" hreflang="pnb" data-title="وکشنری:ستھّ" data-language-autonym="پنجابی" data-language-local-name="Western Punjabi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>پنجابی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-pt mw-list-item"><a href="https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikcion%C3%A1rio:Esplanada" title="Wikcionário:Esplanada – Portugees" lang="pt" hreflang="pt" data-title="Wikcionário:Esplanada" data-language-autonym="Português" data-language-local-name="Portugees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Português</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ro mw-list-item"><a href="https://ro.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wik%C8%9Bionar:Cafenea" title="Wikționar:Cafenea – Roemeens" lang="ro" hreflang="ro" data-title="Wikționar:Cafenea" data-language-autonym="Română" data-language-local-name="Roemeens" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Română</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ru mw-list-item"><a href="https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Викисловарь:Форум – Russies" lang="ru" hreflang="ru" data-title="Викисловарь:Форум" data-language-autonym="Русский" data-language-local-name="Russies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Русский</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-scn mw-list-item"><a href="https://scn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizziunariu:C%C3%ACrculu" title="Wikizziunariu:Cìrculu – Sisiliaans" lang="scn" hreflang="scn" data-title="Wikizziunariu:Cìrculu" data-language-autonym="Sicilianu" data-language-local-name="Sisiliaans" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sicilianu</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sh mw-list-item"><a href="https://sh.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Pijaca" title="Wiktionary:Pijaca – Serwo-Kroaties" lang="sh" hreflang="sh" data-title="Wiktionary:Pijaca" data-language-autonym="Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски" data-language-local-name="Serwo-Kroaties" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Srpskohrvatski / српскохрватски</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-shy mw-list-item"><a href="https://shy.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikasegzawal:Awwur_n_timetti" title="Wikasegzawal:Awwur n timetti – Shawiya" lang="shy" hreflang="shy" data-title="Wikasegzawal:Awwur n timetti" data-language-autonym="Tacawit" data-language-local-name="Shawiya" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tacawit</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-si mw-list-item"><a href="https://si.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%8A%E0%B7%82%E0%B6%B1%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%92:%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%9D%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%92_%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%A9%E0%B7%9A" title="වික්ෂනරි:කෝපි කඩේ – Sinhala" lang="si" hreflang="si" data-title="වික්ෂනරි:කෝපි කඩේ" data-language-autonym="සිංහල" data-language-local-name="Sinhala" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>සිංහල</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-simple mw-list-item"><a href="https://simple.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Simple_talk" title="Wiktionary:Simple talk – Simple English" lang="en-simple" hreflang="en-simple" data-title="Wiktionary:Simple talk" data-language-autonym="Simple English" data-language-local-name="Simple English" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Simple English</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sk mw-list-item"><a href="https://sk.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikislovn%C3%ADk:Kaviare%C5%88" title="Wikislovník:Kaviareň – Slowaaks" lang="sk" hreflang="sk" data-title="Wikislovník:Kaviareň" data-language-autonym="Slovenčina" data-language-local-name="Slowaaks" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenčina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-skr mw-list-item"><a href="https://skr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%88%DA%A9%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%B1%DB%8C:%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1%DB%8C_%D8%AF%D8%A7_%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%B1%DB%81" title="وکشنری:برادری دا دیرہ – Saraiki" lang="skr" hreflang="skr" data-title="وکشنری:برادری دا دیرہ" data-language-autonym="سرائیکی" data-language-local-name="Saraiki" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>سرائیکی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sl mw-list-item"><a href="https://sl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikislovar:Pod_lipo" title="Wikislovar:Pod lipo – Sloweens" lang="sl" hreflang="sl" data-title="Wikislovar:Pod lipo" data-language-autonym="Slovenščina" data-language-local-name="Sloweens" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Slovenščina</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sq mw-list-item"><a href="https://sq.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Kuvendi" title="Wiktionary:Kuvendi – Albanees" lang="sq" hreflang="sq" data-title="Wiktionary:Kuvendi" data-language-autonym="Shqip" data-language-local-name="Albanees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Shqip</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sr mw-list-item"><a href="https://sr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3" title="Викиречник:Трг – Serwies" lang="sr" hreflang="sr" data-title="Викиречник:Трг" data-language-autonym="Српски / srpski" data-language-local-name="Serwies" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Српски / srpski</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-su mw-list-item"><a href="https://su.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Sawala" title="Wiktionary:Sawala – Sundanees" lang="su" hreflang="su" data-title="Wiktionary:Sawala" data-language-autonym="Sunda" data-language-local-name="Sundanees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Sunda</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-sv mw-list-item"><a href="https://sv.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Bybrunnen" title="Wiktionary:Bybrunnen – Sweeds" lang="sv" hreflang="sv" data-title="Wiktionary:Bybrunnen" data-language-autonym="Svenska" data-language-local-name="Sweeds" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Svenska</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ta mw-list-item"><a href="https://ta.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF:%E0%AE%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF" title="விக்சனரி:ஆலமரத்தடி – Tamil" lang="ta" hreflang="ta" data-title="விக்சனரி:ஆலமரத்தடி" data-language-autonym="தமிழ்" data-language-local-name="Tamil" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>தமிழ்</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-te mw-list-item"><a href="https://te.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B7%E0%B0%A8%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%80:%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A1" title="విక్షనరీ:రచ్చబండ – Teloegoe" lang="te" hreflang="te" data-title="విక్షనరీ:రచ్చబండ" data-language-autonym="తెలుగు" data-language-local-name="Teloegoe" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>తెలుగు</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-th mw-list-item"><a href="https://th.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%A1:%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%B2%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%9F" title="วิกิพจนานุกรม:สภากาแฟ – Thai" lang="th" hreflang="th" data-title="วิกิพจนานุกรม:สภากาแฟ" data-language-autonym="ไทย" data-language-local-name="Thai" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ไทย</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tn mw-list-item"><a href="https://tn.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Patlelo_ya_set%C5%A1haba" title="Wiktionary:Patlelo ya setšhaba – Tswana" lang="tn" hreflang="tn" data-title="Wiktionary:Patlelo ya setšhaba" data-language-autonym="Setswana" data-language-local-name="Tswana" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Setswana</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-tr mw-list-item"><a href="https://tr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Vikis%C3%B6zl%C3%BCk:K%C3%B6y_%C3%A7e%C5%9Fmesi" title="Vikisözlük:Köy çeşmesi – Turks" lang="tr" hreflang="tr" data-title="Vikisözlük:Köy çeşmesi" data-language-autonym="Türkçe" data-language-local-name="Turks" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Türkçe</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ug mw-list-item"><a href="https://ug.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:%D8%A6%D9%89%D8%AC%D8%AA%D9%89%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%89_%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86" title="Wiktionary:ئىجتىمائى رايون – Uighur" lang="ug" hreflang="ug" data-title="Wiktionary:ئىجتىمائى رايون" data-language-autonym="ئۇيغۇرچە / Uyghurche" data-language-local-name="Uighur" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>ئۇيغۇرچە / Uyghurche</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-uk mw-list-item"><a href="https://uk.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC" title="Вікісловник:Форум – Oekraïens" lang="uk" hreflang="uk" data-title="Вікісловник:Форум" data-language-autonym="Українська" data-language-local-name="Oekraïens" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Українська</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ur mw-list-item"><a href="https://ur.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C_%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%AA:%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85" title="ویکی لغت:دیوان عام – Oerdoe" lang="ur" hreflang="ur" data-title="ویکی لغت:دیوان عام" data-language-autonym="اردو" data-language-local-name="Oerdoe" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>اردو</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vec mw-list-item"><a href="https://vec.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikisionario:Ci%C3%A0co%C5%82e" title="Wikisionario:Ciàcołe – Venetian" lang="vec" hreflang="vec" data-title="Wikisionario:Ciàcołe" data-language-autonym="Vèneto" data-language-local-name="Venetian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Vèneto</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vi mw-list-item"><a href="https://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn" title="Wiktionary:Thảo luận – Viëtnamees" lang="vi" hreflang="vi" data-title="Wiktionary:Thảo luận" data-language-autonym="Tiếng Việt" data-language-local-name="Viëtnamees" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Tiếng Việt</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-vo mw-list-item"><a href="https://vo.wiktionary.org/wiki/V%C3%BCkiv%C3%B6dabuk:Kafetar" title="Vükivödabuk:Kafetar – Volapük" lang="vo" hreflang="vo" data-title="Vükivödabuk:Kafetar" data-language-autonym="Volapük" data-language-local-name="Volapük" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Volapük</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-yi mw-list-item"><a href="https://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%B0%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%B0%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%95%D7%9A:%D7%A7%D7%90%D7%95%D7%95%D7%A2_%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%99%D7%91%D7%9C" title="װיקיװערטערבוך:קאווע שטיבל – Jiddisj" lang="yi" hreflang="yi" 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title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie">Wysiging soos op 06:08, 29 Julie 2019</a> <span class="mw-diff-edit"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&action=edit&oldid=207102" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie">wysig</a></span><span class="mw-diff-timestamp" data-timestamp="2019-07-29T06:08:14Z"></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle2"><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" class="mw-userlink" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj" data-mw-revid="207102"><bdi>Naudefj</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">Besprekings</a> | <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Bydraes/Naudefj" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Spesiaal:Bydraes/Naudefj">bydraes</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>49 575</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Spelling_tot_1909">→<bdi dir="ltr">Spelling tot 1909</bdi></a></span></span></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-otitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&diff=prev&oldid=207102" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie" id="differences-prevlink">← Ouer wysiging</a></div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-ntitle diff-side-added"><div id="mw-diff-ntitle1"><strong><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&oldid=207103" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie">Wysiging soos op 06:12, 29 Julie 2019</a> <span class="mw-diff-edit"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&action=edit&oldid=207103" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie">wysig</a></span><span class="mw-diff-timestamp" data-timestamp="2019-07-29T06:12:43Z"></span> <span class="mw-diff-undo"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&action=edit&undoafter=207102&undo=207103" title=""Maak ongedaan" keer die wysiging om wys die wysigingsbladsy met 'n voorskou. U kan daar 'n wysigingsopsomming byvoeg.">maak ongedaan</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" class="mw-userlink" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj" data-mw-revid="207103"><bdi>Naudefj</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">Besprekings</a> | <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Bydraes/Naudefj" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Spesiaal:Bydraes/Naudefj">bydraes</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>49 575</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Spelling_tot_1909">→<bdi dir="ltr">Spelling tot 1909</bdi></a></span></span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&diff=next&oldid=207103" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie" id="differences-nextlink">Nuwer wysiging →</a></div></td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Lyn 746:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Lyn 746:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>== Spelling tot 1909 ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>== Spelling tot 1909 ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>[[Lêer:Akedamieberig.jpg|Dié berig oor die Akademie se stigting het in die koerant Het Westen verskyn.]]</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>[[Lêer:Akedamieberig.jpg<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|regs|300px</ins>|Dié berig oor die Akademie se stigting het in die koerant Het Westen verskyn.]]</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>Wat is die bron vir die inligting onder "Spelling tot 1909"? En wat is die noodsaak hiervan? En waarom spesifiek 1909?</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Wat is die bron vir die inligting onder "Spelling tot 1909"? En wat is die noodsaak hiervan? En waarom spesifiek 1909?</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>Ek sien byvoorbeeld onder "mooi" die volgende vorme: mooi-ër, mójer, mó-jer. Waarom is daar koppeltekens in mooi-ër en mó-jer? Is dit inderdaad so gespel? [[Gebruiker:Geebee100|Geebee100]] ([[Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100|kontak]]) 06:11, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Ek sien byvoorbeeld onder "mooi" die volgende vorme: mooi-ër, mójer, mó-jer. Waarom is daar koppeltekens in mooi-ër en mó-jer? Is dit inderdaad so gespel? [[Gebruiker:Geebee100|Geebee100]] ([[Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100|kontak]]) 06:11, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Wysiging soos op 06:12, 29 Julie 2019</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="af" dir="ltr"><p><br/> </p> <div style="background:#f9f9f9; border:1px solid #aaaaaa; clear:both; float:right; font-size:90%; margin:1em 0 1em 1em; padding:1em; width:20em;"> <div style="font-size:larger; text-align:center;"><b>Sien ook:</b></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Oor_hierdie_projek" title="Wiktionary:Oor hierdie projek">Oor hierdie projek</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Versoeke" title="Wiktionary:Versoeke">Versoek byvoeging van 'n woord</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Hoe_om_%E2%80%99n_nuwe_bladsy_te_skep" title="Wiktionary:Hoe om ’n nuwe bladsy te skep">Hoe om self 'n woord by te voeg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Algemene_vrae" title="Wiktionary:Algemene vrae">Algemene vrae</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Statistiek" title="Wiktionary:Statistiek">Statistiek</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Styl" title="Wiktionary:Styl">Styl</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:GNU/FDL-lisensie" title="Wiktionary:GNU/FDL-lisensie">GNU/FDL-lisensie</a></li></ul> </div> <table border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" class="agtergrondkleur1 raamkleur1 dryf-regs" style="float:right; clear:both; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px; border-collapse:collapse; font-size:95%; margin-top: 2px; margin-bottom: 2px; empty-cells:show;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3" style="padding: 0.5em"><div class="imagemap-inline"><figure class="noresize" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:Argiefboks" title="Sjabloon:Argiefboks"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Crystal_Clear_app_file-manager.png/100px-Crystal_Clear_app_file-manager.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Crystal_Clear_app_file-manager.png 1.5x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <big>Argief</big></div> </th></tr> <tr> <th colspan="3"> <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form" action="/wiki/Spesiaal:Soek"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-inputbox-input mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="" size="19" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie" name="prefix"/><br/><input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Deursoek argief" class="cdx-button"/><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief">Deel 1</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief2" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief2">Deel 2</a> </td> <td><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief3" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief3">Deel 3</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="text-align: center"><small><a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:Argiefboks" title="Sjabloon:Argiefboks">Hoe word 'n argief aangelê?</a></small> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief4" title="Wiktionary:Geselshoekie/Argief4">Deel 4</a></li></ul> <p>Welkom by Wikiwoordeboek se algemene geselshoekie. Almal is welkom om aan die besprekings hier deel te neem. <b>Teken asseblief u besprekings</b> deur ~~~~ te tik, of die "Handtekening met datum"-ikoon (<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Handtekening met datum"><img alt="Handtekening met datum" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Button_sig.png" decoding="async" width="23" height="22" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="23" data-file-height="22"/></span></span>) op die redigeringskieslys te kies. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="waarvan" data-mw-thread-id="h-waarvan-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-waarvan-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/waarvan" title="waarvan">waarvan</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-waarvan-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T15:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z-waarvan"></span>Woorde soos waarvan, waartydens, daartussen en hieruit word gewoonlik "pronominal adverbs" (en), "voornaamwoordelijke bijwoorden" (nl) ens. genoem, maar ek hou eintlik meer daarvan om hulle <b>voornaamwoorde</b> te noem, soos jy met <a href="/wiki/waarvan" title="waarvan">waarvan</a> gedoen het, Frank. </p><p>Hulle deel eienskappe van voornaamwoorde en van bywoorde, maar ongelukkig word bywoorde dikwels as 'n minder belangrike deel van de grammatika gesien. Hierdie woorde is egter ewe belangrik vir die Afrikaanse (en Nederlandse) grammatika as die voornaamwoorde self wat hulle vervang. Vanweë hulle naam word hulle dikwels as stiefkinders behandel. 'n Bywoord is mos net bysaak, nê? Selfs mense als Bilderdijk het hulle in die vroeë 1800s reeds kwaad daaroor gemaak. </p><p>Kan ons die term "voornaamwoordelike bywoorde" sommer omdraai en hulle "bywoordelike voornaamwoorde" noem? Dit druk ook hulle tweeslagtige natuur uit, maar doen meer reg aan hulle grammatikale rol. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z-waarvan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z-waarvan"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z-waarvan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2017-11-20T19:06:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Dit klink goed so, maar ek is ongelukkig nie 'n taalkundige nie (ek het rekenaarwetenskap studeer). Jy moet dus maar die leiding neem as dit by die tegniese aspekte kom. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2017-11-20T19:06:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2017-11-20T19:06:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2017-11-20T19:06:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Vanuit 'n taalkundige perspektief word hierdie goed (internasionaal) "voornaamwoordelike bywoorde" genoem, aangesien hulle juis bywoorde is wat voornaamwoordelik optree. Ons moet asb. nie die term verander nie - dit is goed gevestig! (Terloops ook: Ek dink darem nie bywoorde word meer in moderne grammatikas van die afgelope vyftig jaar as "stiefkinders" behandel nie :-) <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-20T18:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z"></span>Wie is "ons" Geebee? Ek het jou nog nooit sien bydra nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T15:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z"></span>Met "ons" bedoel ek die Wiktionarygemeenskap. So gesien is dit eintlik tans primêr jy, <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (as ek jou opmerkings in 'n ander onderwerp reg verstaan het)? Ek is inderdaad 'n nuweling hier op Wiktionary, want ek het nog nooit eintlik regtig verstaan wat hier aangaan nie. Maar ek wil niemand se turf bedreig of so nie ... As dit ongevraagd is, dan stoot ek liewer my energie elders in. Die laaste ding waarby ek betrokke wil raak, is die "Wikipedia-politiek" ... <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T15:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T15:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T15:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z"></span>New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers">7 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers"></span>New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers</b> </p><p>The Readers web team will be deploying a new feature this week to make it <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_PDFs" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile PDFs">easier to download PDF versions of articles on the mobile website</a>. </p><p>Providing better offline functionality was one of the highlighted areas from <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Offline" class="extiw" title="m:New Readers/Offline">the research done by the New Readers team in Mexico, Nigeria, and India</a>. The teams created a prototype for mobile PDFs which was evaluated by user research and community feedback. The <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_Readers/Offline#Concept_testing_for_mobile_web" class="extiw" title="m:New Readers/Offline">prototype evaluation</a> received positive feedback and results, so development continued. </p><p>For the initial deployment, the feature will be available to Google Chrome browsers on Android. Support for other mobile browsers to come in the future. For Chrome, the feature will use the native Android print functionality. Users can choose to download a webpage as a PDF. <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Print_Styles#Mobile_Printing" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Print Styles">Mobile print styles</a> will be used for these PDFs to ensure optimal readability for smaller screens. </p><p>The feature is available starting Wednesday, Nov 15. For more information, see <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_PDFs" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile PDFs">the project page on MediaWiki.org</a>. </p><p>Baie dankie! </p> </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:CKoerner (WMF)">CKoerner (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:CKoerner (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2017-11-20T22:07:00.000Z-New_print_to_pdf_feature_for_mobile_web_readers"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kleure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kleure-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kleure-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"></span>Kleure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kleure-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:33:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z-Kleure"></span>Kleure is 'n bietjie 'n internasionale probleem. In die een taal word hulle as selfstandige naamwoorde beskou, in die ander as byvoeglike. Eintlik is hulle nes die telwoorde gespesialiseerde naamwoorde wat soms byvoeglik, soms selfstandig kan wees. Anders as telwoorde word hulle gewoonlik nie as 'n eie (sub)woordklas beskou. 'n Ander item vir die lys met probleme wat opgelos moet word. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z-Kleure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 28 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z-Kleure"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z-Kleure"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:33:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"></span>Kleurname word tradisioneel in Afrikaans primêr as b.nw. gesien, sekondêr as s.nw. Woordeboeke soos die HAT en die WAT bied daarom ook die b.nw. eerste aan, gevolg deur die s.nw. M.i. kan ons gerus maar dieselfde patroon hier volg. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:33:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:33:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:33:00.000Z-Jcwf-2017-11-28T23:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Transliterasie-inskrywings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Transliterasie-inskrywings-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Transliterasie-inskrywings-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"></span>Transliterasie-inskrywings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Transliterasie-inskrywings-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2017-12-10T16:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z">7 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z-Transliterasie-inskrywings"></span>Wat maak ons met inskrywing soos <a href="/w/index.php?title=Armeense_transliterasie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Armeense transliterasie (bladsy bestaan nie)">Armeense transliterasie</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Oekra%C3%AFense_transliterasie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Oekraïense transliterasie (bladsy bestaan nie)">Oekraïense transliterasie</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Russiese_transliterasie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Russiese transliterasie (bladsy bestaan nie)">Russiese transliterasie</a> en <a href="/w/index.php?title=Angel-Saksiese_alfabet&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Angel-Saksiese alfabet (bladsy bestaan nie)">Angel-Saksiese alfabet</a>? Kan ons dit na die Wiktionary-naamruimte skuif? Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z-Transliterasie-inskrywings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:58, 9 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z-Transliterasie-inskrywings"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z-Transliterasie-inskrywings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-10T16:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"></span>Ja, dink ek. Dis inligting oor bepaalde tale of skrifte, nie woordeboek goeters nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2017-12-10T16:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 10 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-10T16:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2017-12-10T16:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2017-12-09T06:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="afb_stemsjabloon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Uitgevoer"><img alt="Uitgevoer" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/17px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" decoding="async" width="17" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/26px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/34px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></span> <b>Uitgevoer</b></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Dankie Jcwf!</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ons_ou_vriende..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Ons_ou_vriende...-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ons_ou_vriende...-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z"></span>Ons ou vriende...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ons_ou_vriende...-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Ons_ou_vriende...">7 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Ons_ou_vriende..."></span>Frank, Jaap: dit sal regtig graaf wees indien julle ons ou vriende hier skep – <a href="/wiki/interessant" title="interessant">interessant</a>, <a href="/wiki/onmiddellik" title="onmiddellik">onmiddellik</a>, <a href="/wiki/finansieel" title="finansieel">finansieel</a> met meervoude, asook <a href="/wiki/kommersieel" title="kommersieel">kommersieel</a> met meervoud! Groete! 07:22, 10 Desember 2017 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Ons sal so maak, Oesjaar. Sien asb. ook <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Versoeke" title="Wiktionary:Versoeke">Wiktionary:Versoeke</a>. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Ons_ou_vriende..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 10 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Ons_ou_vriende..."><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T07:24:00.000Z-Ons_ou_vriende..."></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="afb_stemsjabloon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Uitgevoer"><img alt="Uitgevoer" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/17px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" decoding="async" width="17" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/26px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/34px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></span> <b>Uitgevoer</b></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Woordsoortontleding" data-mw-thread-id="h-Woordsoortontleding-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Woordsoortontleding-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z"></span>Woordsoortontleding<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Woordsoortontleding-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:43:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"></span>Kry mens programme wat woordsoortontleding in Afrikaans kan doen? Die Ingelse taalkundiges praat van 'n "Part-of-speech tagger". So iets sal geweldig baie kan help. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 10 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2017-12-10T18:03:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"></span>Hallo Frank. Ek dink die kodewoord is "morphological analyser" op Google. Ek kon wel twee programme opspoor in ander tale, maar ek weet nie hoe akkuraat hulle is nie. Legible Latin werk absoluut soos 'n droom, hoewel hy 'n woord soos <s><i>vocitatus</i> glad nie herken nie</s> (tog wel!); gelukkig is daardie woord reeds by die Engelse Wiktionary opgeneem (wat dit weer by Franse woordeboeke gekry het?). Dan het ek vanoggend afgekom op <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://nlp.fi.muni.cz/czech-morphology-analyser/">https://nlp.fi.muni.cz/czech-morphology-analyser/</a>. Die programme kom nog uit 1995 aan. Die Duitse weergawe is by: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://morphy.wolfganglezius.de/download/">http://morphy.wolfganglezius.de/download/</a>. Onder Löwe (Leeu) spoeg hy die volgende uit:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>SUB <i>Löwe</i> NOM MAS SIN</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Onder <i>Löwen</i> (Leeu/Leeus) wel:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>SUB Löwe GEN MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe DAT MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe AKK MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe NOM MAS PLU</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe GEN MAS PLU</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe DAT MAS PLU</dd> <dd>SUB Löwe AKK MAS PLU</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Onder Panther (luiperd, panter) kry jy egter almal onder een dak:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>SUB Panther NOM MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Panther DAT MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Panther AKK MAS SIN</dd> <dd>SUB Panther NOM MAS PLU</dd> <dd>SUB Panther GEN MAS PLU</dd> <dd>SUB Panther AKK MAS PLU</dd></dl> <p>Wat mis ons? </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Panthers</dd></dl></dd> <dd>SUB Panther GEN MAS SIN <dl><dd>Panthern</dd></dl></dd> <dd>SUB Panther DAT MAS PLU</dd></dl> <p>Dit klop 100% met die Duitse Wiktionary-inskrywing (<a class="external free" href="https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Panther">https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Panther</a>). Ek besef nou eers hoe onreëlmatig Duits kan raak... Ek dink egter nie Afrikaans het so iets ontwikkel nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:53, 13 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z-Woordsoortontleding"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-20T15:28:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"></span>Dankie vir die interessantste inligting. Ek sal later verder oor die onderwerp nalees. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2017-12-20T15:28:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 20 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2017-12-20T15:28:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2017-12-20T15:28:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:43:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"></span>In Afrikaans noem ons 'n "part-of-speech tagger" 'n "woordsoortetiketteerder". Daar is al 'n klompie van hulle vir Afrikaans ontwikkel, waarvan die ene van die Noordwes-Universiteit meestal die basis vorm vir ander wat daarop wil verbeter. Kyk byvoorbeeld hierdie artikel: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.ajol.info/index.php/salas/article/view/6661">https://www.ajol.info/index.php/salas/article/view/6661</a>. Die dokumentasie, data en kode van die jongste weergawe is hier beskikbaar: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://repo.sadilar.org/handle/20.500.12185/323">https://repo.sadilar.org/handle/20.500.12185/323</a>. CTexT (aan die NWU) het ook 'n webmodule geskep wat 'n pyplyn skep vir die outomatiese annotering van tekste, waaronder woordsoortetikettering. Tot slot: In beginsel kan 'n mens nie daarop vertrou om woordsoortetiketteerders tussen tale te gebruik nie. Ons het uitvoerig navorsing hieroor gedoen, en dit word ten sterkste afgeraai om dit blindelings te gebruik. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:43:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:43:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T05:43:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2017-12-13T04:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Frases_en_vaste_begrippe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z"></span>Frases en vaste begrippe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"></span>Hallo Leute. </p><p>Drie vrae, waarmee, dink ek, veral <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Gebruiker:Jcwf</a> kan help. </p><p>VRAAG 1 Ek kom onlangs af op die volgende (gottwein.de): </p> <dl><dd>"LATYN": Nostri consocii <b>crustulis memorialibus</b> utuntur. Concedis, si legere pergis.</dd> <dd>"AFRIKAANS": Ons vennote gebruik <b>koekies</b>. Deur verder te lees, stem jy toe. [Letterlik: jy stem toe, deur verder te lees]</dd></dl> <p>Mag mens hierdie "begrip" (letterlik: geheuebrokkies of geheuekoekies) net so as soekwoord/lemma/hofie gebruik? [Ek weet net nie of ons hier die ablatief, akkusatief of nominatief het nie - daarmee is ek maar dom]. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Dit is ablatief meervoud.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>VRAAG 2 </p><p>Die 32 Bataljon het die slagspreuk/leuse gehad: PROELIO PROCUSI. Kan hierdie leuse (of, vaste bewoording) soos "carpe diem" ook soos by vraag 1 gebruik word, of hoe nou? Eintlik raak dit nou vrekmoeilik, want onder elke liewe vervoeging sal ons 'n voorbeeldsin moet aanhaal. Ons sal die carpe diem dus onder "dies" (nominatief, enkelvoud, onsydig) en carpo moet plaas? </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Op nl.wikt het ons nooit regtig tot goeie afsprake daaoroor gekom nie, omdat daar nog derduisende ander goeter was wat ons aandag gevra het. Dis seker legitiem om <i>carpe diem</i> onder 'n Latynse lemma dies as uitdrukking op teneem. Ek dink Manie het 'n idioom-opskrif geskep om ook 'n bladsy <i>carpe diem</i> moontlik te maak, maar ek het my nooi so hiervoor geïnteresseer nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 23 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-1"></span>VRAAG 3 </p><p>Hoe maak mens as Afrikaans/Nederlands één woord het wat in ander tale dikwels "veelwoordig" is, soos <i>voetstoots</i>? In Duits sien ek skryf hulle oor dieselfde aangeleentheid <i>gekauft wie gesehen</i>. In Trümpelmann staan daar weer <i>unbesehen</i>, wat heeltemal onwaar is. Deur voetstoots te koop beteken dit om wel iets te koop, soos die HAT stel: <i>met sigbare en onsigbare gebreke</i>. Die tweede deel is "sommer so", "sonder nadere ondersoek", maar hier het ons te make met beeldspraak: Ek kan nie hierdie aantyging voetstoots aanvaar nie. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Dis een van die redes waarom ons verskeie wikti's het en die poging om een omega-wiki daarvan te skep met 'n relasionele database nie regtig geslaag is nie. Ja daar is woorde wat nie met een woord vertaal kan word. Vertaal is nie een-op-een nie. Die indeling van die inligtings sal dus op en.wikt, de.wikt ens. effens verskil. In die vertaalblokkie kan of gekies word vir 'n omskrywing wat dikwels nie geskakel word nie ofwel daar kom geen vertaling nie. Dis ook een van die redes waarom verskeie vertaalblokke, voorbeeldsinne en prentjies belangrik is om die betekenisdefinisie te onderbou. Soms is daar egter vaste verbindings soos "byvoeglike naamwoord" wat hulle eie bladsy verdien. Die Franse gee hieraan 'n eie opskrif soos <i>locution nominale</i>. Ons kan oorweeg om hiervoor ook 'n opskriffie te bedink. Maar soos gesê: daar wag nog derduisende eenvoudiger goeters op 'n beskrywing. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 23 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-1"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2017-12-23T13:38:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"></span>Post Scriptum: as 'n internetramp gebeur en ek nog nie geantwoord het nie - Geseënde Kersfees. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 23 Desember 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2017-12-23T08:56:00.000Z-Frases_en_vaste_begrippe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Dankie, en dieselfde!</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Voorspoedige_2018!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voorspoedige_2018!-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"><span id="Voorspoedige_2018.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voorspoedige_2018!-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"></span>Voorspoedige 2018!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voorspoedige_2018!-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2018-01-01T15:55:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z-Voorspoedige_2018!"></span>Aan die Wikiwoordeboek gemeenskap: dankie vir al julle bydraes in 2017! Die Wikipedia hoogtepunt vir 2018 is ongetwyfeld die Wikimania-konferensie in Kaapstad in Julie! Ons Wikiwoordeboek groei mooi! knap gedaan Frank en Jaap! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Oesjaar" title="Gebruiker:Oesjaar">Oesjaar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z-Voorspoedige_2018!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:12, 1 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z-Voorspoedige_2018!"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z-Voorspoedige_2018!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"></span>Baie dankie vir die ondersteuning, Oesjaar. Ons het hard gewerk en hoop om die projek tot groot hoogstes in 2018 te dryf. Voorspoed ook aan ons kollegas by die Afrikaanse Wikipedia. Mag die voorspoed julle algar verveel. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 1 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-01T06:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-01T15:55:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z"></span>'n Voorspoedige 2018!<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-01-01T15:55:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 1 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-01T15:55:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-01-01T15:55:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-01T08:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nm-_en_fm-sjablone" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"></span>Nm- en fm-sjablone<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2018-02-04T22:32:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone"></span>Wat maak ons met {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:-nm-" title="Sjabloon:-nm-">-nm-</a>}} soos by <a href="/wiki/filet" title="filet">filet</a> en {{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-fm-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-fm- (bladsy bestaan nie)">-fm-</a>}} soos by <a href="/wiki/tien" title="tien">tien</a>? Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 10 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z-Nm-_en_fm-sjablone"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-04T22:32:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"></span>Ek sien {{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-fm-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-fm- (bladsy bestaan nie)">-fm-</a>}} word {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:fm" title="Sjabloon:fm">fm</a>}}, maar daar is nog nie 'n ooreenstemmende {{<a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:nm&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:nm (bladsy bestaan nie)">nm</a>}} nie.</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Die fm-goeters is 'n stelselmatige ding omdat die meeste vroulike woord nou ook as manlik behandel kan word. Ander kombinasies soos m-n of f-n of m-f-n is lukraak en ek dink ons het geen aparte slablone nodig nie. Ons kan net {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:m" title="Sjabloon:m">m</a>}}/{{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:n" title="Sjabloon:n">n</a>}} skryf. Dis 'n ander rede waarom ek die opskrifte {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:-nm-" title="Sjabloon:-nm-">-nm-</a>}} verafsku. Ons moenie reelmaat beweer waar nie reelmaat is nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-04T22:32:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 4 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-04T22:32:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-04T22:32:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-10T10:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Posisie_68!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Posisie_68!-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"><span id="Posisie_68.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Posisie_68!-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"></span>Posisie 68!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Posisie_68!-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2018-01-16T19:36:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z-Posisie_68!"></span>Die Afrikaanse woordeboek het die Sisiliaanse een verbygesteek en is nou nommer 68. Goed gedoen Frank en Jaap! Groete! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Oesjaar" title="Gebruiker:Oesjaar">Oesjaar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z-Posisie_68!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 16 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z-Posisie_68!"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z-Posisie_68!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"></span>Dankie Oesjaar! Latyn met 20977 inskrywings is volgende in ons visier. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 16 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-16T12:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-16T19:36:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z"></span>Eh Ja Frank, maar hulle is 'n bewegende teiken en ek dink hulle beweeg vinniger as ons... <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-01-16T19:36:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 16 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-16T19:36:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-01-16T19:36:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-16T15:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_skakel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_skakel-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_skakel-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia skakel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_skakel-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-01-27T21:46:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia_skakel"></span>Kan mens 'n enkele woord in Wikipedia skakel met 'n inskrywing in die wikiwoordeboek? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:JMK" title="Gebruiker:JMK">JMK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:JMK" title="Gebruikerbespreking:JMK">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia_skakel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 27 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia_skakel"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z-Wikipedia_skakel"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-27T21:46:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span>Dit lyk of [[wikt:]] werk. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-27T21:46:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 27 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-27T21:46:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-27T21:46:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-27T21:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="19,000_woorde!" data-mw-thread-id="h-19,000_woorde!-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"><span id="19.2C000_woorde.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-19,000_woorde!-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span>19,000 woorde!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-19,000_woorde!-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-02-02T16:47:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>7 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z-19,000_woorde!"></span>Goed gedoen julle! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Oesjaar" title="Gebruiker:Oesjaar">Oesjaar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z-19,000_woorde!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z-19,000_woorde!"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z-19,000_woorde!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span>Dankie. Wanneer kan ons jou eerste inskrywing verwag? Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z"></span>Gebruiker:Alias stel in woordeboekmaak belang, maar sover ek verstaan is hy nie oortuig van die wikiwoordeboek se formaat nie. Nietemin, aangesien ons meer hande nodig het, sal dit baie doen as iemand hom kan oortuig. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:JMK" title="Gebruiker:JMK">JMK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:JMK" title="Gebruikerbespreking:JMK">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T06:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z"></span>Ek sal graag sy sieninge daaromtrent wil hoor. Ons het talle veranderinge in die laaste paar maande deurgevoer, en daar is nog heelwat ruimte vir verbetering. Kan jy hom dalk nooi om dit hier te bespreek. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T13:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T17:31:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Ek sal <b>nie</b> graag sy sieninge daaromtrent wil hoor <b>nie</b>. Mense wat hier nie wil bydra nie is wat my betref nie welkom om baas te kom speel nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T17:31:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T17:31:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T17:31:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-01-29T14:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span>Frank, ek trek maar swaer op ons Wiki, lyk my al die gebruikers het verdwyn. Aliwal het hartomleiding gehad vier weke terug, jy is weg, Suidpunt het verdwyn en die Maroela Medium bedraers is ook uit aksie. Tans is dit net ek, Voya, Sören en K175 wat bydraes maak. Groete! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Oesjaar" title="Gebruiker:Oesjaar">Oesjaar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:55, 2 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-01-29T05:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-02T16:47:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z"></span>Hou <a href="/wiki/moed" title="moed">moed</a>! Aliwal sal DV eersdaags terug wees. As jy vasbrand, laat weet dan kom help ons. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-02T16:47:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 2 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-02T16:47:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-02T16:47:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-02-02T05:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vaste_uitdrukking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vaste_uitdrukking-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vaste_uitdrukking-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"></span>Vaste uitdrukking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vaste_uitdrukking-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T13:10:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z-Vaste_uitdrukking"></span>Is daar 'n sjabloon vir vaste uitdrukkings waarin 'n woord gebruik word? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:JMK" title="Gebruiker:JMK">JMK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:JMK" title="Gebruikerbespreking:JMK">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z-Vaste_uitdrukking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z-Vaste_uitdrukking"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z-Vaste_uitdrukking"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T13:10:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"></span>Daar is {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:-uitdruk-" title="Sjabloon:-uitdruk-">-uitdruk-</a>}} en {{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:spreekwoorde" title="Sjabloon:spreekwoorde">spreekwoorde</a>}}. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T13:10:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 29 Januarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T13:10:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-01-29T13:10:00.000Z-JMK-2018-01-29T09:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Klankopnames" data-mw-thread-id="h-Klankopnames-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Klankopnames-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z"></span>Klankopnames<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Klankopnames-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2018-02-03T23:32:00.000Z-Klankopnames">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z-Klankopnames"></span>Weet iemand dalk van Afrikaanse klankopnames in die openbare domein wat ons in woorde kan versnipper? Elke Afrikaanse woord kort so 'n klankgreep in 'n manlike en vroulike stem. Alternatiewelik, as iemand bereid is om die woorde vir ons op te neem sal dit ook werk. Die <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Afrikaans_100" title="Wiktionary:Afrikaans 100">Afrikaans 100</a>-woordelys 'n goeie plek om te begin. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z-Klankopnames" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 3 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z-Klankopnames"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-03T13:01:00.000Z-Klankopnames"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-03T23:32:00.000Z-Klankopnames"></span>Wat mens nodig het: <dl><dd>Jy moet 'n moedertaalspreker wees.</dd> <dd>'n Goeie mikrofoon, soos H4N (ingeboude mikrofoons is dikwels nie goed genoeg nie)</dd> <dd>'n Ruimte wat stil is. (geen agtergrondgeluid of geraas asseblief)</dd> <dd>Gratis geluid-sagteware soos Audacity op jou rekenaar</dd> <dd>Geduld en tyd.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <ol><li>Maak 'n lys van die woorde wat jy gaan inspreek. (10-20 of so.)</li> <li>Spreek hulle duidelik maar natuurlik in. Vermy "letter-uitspraak", praat soos jy normaal sou praat.</li> <li>Maak seker dat: <ol><li>jy die resultaat krities beluister (Die hele wiktionary-wêreld wil/gaan jou stem hoor!)</li> <li>die opname 'n goeie sterkte het,</li> <li>dit duidelik en sonder vervorming is</li> <li>jy nie in die mikrofoon geblaas het nie, met jou lippe gesmak ens.</li></ol></li> <li>Knip die opname in aparte lêers</li> <li>stoor hulle as .ogg lêers.</li> <li>Noem die lêer van die woord "watterwoordook": <b>af-<i>watterwoordook</i>.ogg</b>: met prefiks af- en die juiste spelling van die woord. (Klein letter tensy dit altyd 'n hoofletter kry)</li> <li>gaan na commons om hulle op te laai. (Ek glo jy kan 10 tegelyk doen)</li> <li>dit behoort as Category:Afrikaans pronunciation|watterwoordook gekategoriseer te word. (Anders kom alles onder "af")</li></ol> <p>Hier op die Afrikaanse wikiwoordeboek word die klankopname so op die bladsy gesit: </p><p>{{<a href="/wiki/Sjabloon:-uitspraak-" title="Sjabloon:-uitspraak-">-uitspraak-</a>}}<br/> :{{woordklank|ipa=|t=af|o=1}} </p><p>Die klanklêer sal dalk nogtans ook dankbaar op ander wikiwoordeboeke gebruik word. Jy kan dit self doen, maar die sintaks is op ieder werf effens anders. Respekteer asseblief die plaaslike gebruike. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-03T23:32:00.000Z-Klankopnames" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 3 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-03T23:32:00.000Z-Klankopnames"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-03T23:32:00.000Z-Klankopnames"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Voorbeeldblad" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voorbeeldblad-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voorbeeldblad-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Voorbeeldblad<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voorbeeldblad-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-02-08T15:13:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z-Voorbeeldblad"></span>As ons 'n woord het wat baie volledig uiteengesit is moet ons dit miskien as 'n voorbeeldblad aandui. Dis vir my bv. onduidelik in watter volgorde die hofies moet wees, of wanneer woorde deur kommas geskei, of met nommers gelys moet word. En as dit moontlik is om die voorbeeldblad sommer hier in die linkerbaan aan te dui vir maklike verwysing sal dit goed wees. Dankie vir die wenk dat verskillende betekenisse deur nommers met mekaar geskakel word. Dit was ook nie dadelik intuïtief nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:JMK" title="Gebruiker:JMK">JMK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:JMK" title="Gebruikerbespreking:JMK">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z-Voorbeeldblad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 7 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z-Voorbeeldblad"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z-Voorbeeldblad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"></span>Die sjablone wat onder die teksboks gelys is, is min of meer in die gewenste volgorde. Die oorspronklike voorbeeldblad is by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Sjabloon/Afrikaans&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wiktionary:Sjabloon/Afrikaans (bladsy bestaan nie)">Wiktionary:Sjabloon/Afrikaans</a> (hoewel ons ondertussen effens daarvan begin afwyk het). Die beste is om by die diep kant in te spring en te kyk hoe die mense jou inskrywings korrigeer. Dit het my meer as 'n maand geneem om op dreef te kom, maar die nuutgeskepte dokumentasie behoort die proses aansienlik te versnel. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 7 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T19:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z"></span>'n Skakel na hierdie teksboks asb. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:JMK" title="Gebruiker:JMK">JMK</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:JMK" title="Gebruikerbespreking:JMK">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 7 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-07T20:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-08T14:03:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Ek het begin om die huidige formaat -wat natuurlik nog aan die verander is- beter te beskrywe. Sien <a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:Formaat" title="Wiktionary:Formaat">Wiktionary:Formaat</a>. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-08T14:03:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 8 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-08T14:03:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-08T14:03:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-08T15:13:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Sien <a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Teksboks_op_die_Afrikaanse_Wiktionary.png" title="Lêer:Teksboks op die Afrikaanse Wiktionary.png">Lêer:Teksboks op die Afrikaanse Wiktionary.png</a>. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-08T15:13:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 8 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-08T15:13:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-08T15:13:00.000Z-JMK-2018-02-07T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Begeerde_inskrywing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Begeerde_inskrywing-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Begeerde_inskrywing-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span>Begeerde inskrywing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Begeerde_inskrywing-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T10:38:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z-Begeerde_inskrywing"></span>Maak daar vir ons 'n inskrywing oor <i><a href="/wiki/concerto" title="concerto">concerto</a></i>, toe? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z-Begeerde_inskrywing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 10 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z-Begeerde_inskrywing"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z-Begeerde_inskrywing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T10:38:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span><span class="afb_stemsjabloon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Uitgevoer"><img alt="Uitgevoer" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/17px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" decoding="async" width="17" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/26px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/34px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></span> <b>Uitgevoer</b>. Kyk maar of dit reg lyk. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T10:38:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 10 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T10:38:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T10:38:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bots_begeerd" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bots_begeerd-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bots_begeerd-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Bots begeerd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bots_begeerd-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-K175-2018-02-16T22:13:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z-Bots_begeerd"></span>Kan ons asseblief 'n bot-meester vind wat alle {{-af-}} in {{=af=}} en alle :*{{ in :{{ en alle woord·af·bre·kings in woord•af•bre•kings kan wysig? Ek het niks teen formaatwysigings nie, behalwe dat dit dikwels so veel werk oplewer dat eintlik net 'n bot dit kan doen en formaatwysigings <b>moet (volledig) uitgevoer</b> word, omdat anders daar heeltemaal geen formaat meer is nie. Net chaos wat dodelik vir hierdie projek is. En ja ander wikiwoordeboeke het met dieselfde probleem gestoei. En ja hulle is soms dood. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z-Bots_begeerd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 10 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z-Bots_begeerd"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z-Bots_begeerd"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"></span>En ja mense met "sienings" kan baie dodelik wees. Dit het verskeie kere geblyk. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 10 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z"></span>Natuurlik, hierdie is klein veranderinkies wat mens maklik in 'n agtermiddag kan standaardiseer. Ek is net nie 100% seker oor die :{{ nie. Miskien moet dit net so 'n rukkie los voordat ons 'n bot opsaal. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 10 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-10T19:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z"></span>Kort julle nog hulp hiermee? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 16 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-10T19:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z"></span>Ek het reeds 'n bot hiervoor opgelei. Dankie in elke geval. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 16 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-16T17:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-16T22:13:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z"></span>👍 <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-16T22:13:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 16 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-16T22:13:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-16T22:13:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-16T17:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Video" data-mw-thread-id="h-Video-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Video-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z"></span>Video<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Video-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z-Video">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z-Video"></span>Ietsie om na te luister terwyl julle aan ons woordeboek werk: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1nUFetfh0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm1nUFetfh0</a></li></ul> <p>Geniet! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z-Video" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 12 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z-Video"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-12T16:54:00.000Z-Video"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikiquote" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikiquote-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikiquote-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"></span><a href="https://af.wikiquote.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="q:">Wikiquote</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikiquote-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-K175-2018-02-17T20:38:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z-Wikiquote"></span>Weet julle wat aangaan by Wikiquote? Daar is geen administrateurs of burokrate nie. Hoe kry ons hierdie projek aan die gang? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z-Wikiquote" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z-Wikiquote"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z-Wikiquote"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"></span>Ek dink daar gaan net mooi niks aan nie. Betrek die plek, doen aansoek vir administrateurskap en nooi ons sodat ons jou kan instem. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span>Ongelukkig gaan daar baie min aan by af.wikiquote. En dit geld ook vir wikibooks en ander goeters. Ons het nie genoeg mense nie, K175. Selfs hierdie woordeboekwerf se bestaansreg is twyfelagtig en dit het 7 jaar stilgestaan. Daar was lank net genoeg kritiese massa om af.wiki aan die gang te hou. Maar wikiwoordeboek gee my nou hoop dat dit gaan verbeter.<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T18:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z"></span>Kan ons begin deur die burokrate hier en by Wikipedia te betrek vir administrateurskap by Wikiquote? Ek wil solank net 'n robotvlag daar kry (vir verwelkoming), en daarvoor het ons 'n admin nodig! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:52, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-02-17T18:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z"></span>Ek dink nie een van ons sal maklik adminregte bekom, tensy ons daar betrokke raak nie. Die beste is om self betrokke te raak en dan vir regte aansoek te doen. Aan die ander kant het 'n bot wat net nou en dan bywerkings doen nie spesiale regte nodig nie. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z-K175-2018-02-17T18:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K175-2018-02-17T20:38:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z"></span>Goed 👍 Dankie vir die insette. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:K175">K175</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:K175" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:K175">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-K175-2018-02-17T20:38:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 17 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K175-2018-02-17T20:38:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K175-2018-02-17T20:38:00.000Z-Naudefj-2018-02-17T19:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Besoek" data-mw-thread-id="h-Besoek-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Besoek-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z"></span>Besoek<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Besoek-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z-Besoek">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=af.wiktionary.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-90&pages=sinoniem"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z-Besoek"></span>hmm.</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=af.wiktionary.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-90&pages=Kategorie:Woorde_in_Afrikaans">HMM!</a> </p> <dl><dd>'n Mooi opwaartse kurwe. Ek dink dit beteken wat ons doen vind inslag. Maar hoe lui die spreekwoord... "elke dassie prys sy eie kwassie" :-) Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z-Besoek" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 21 Februarie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z-Besoek"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-02-21T06:36:00.000Z-Besoek"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tydperke" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tydperke-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tydperke-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Tydperke<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tydperke-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:48:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>7 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z-Tydperke"></span>Die geologiese tydperke is effens 'n probleem. Daar is gewoonlik 'n selfstandige naamwoord en 'n bybehorende byvoeglike. As ek die HAT goed begryp het die s.nw. Mesosoïkum 'n hoofletter, maar die b.nw. is mesosoïes met kleinletter. Die tydperk Jura kryg nogtans 'n b.nw. Jurassies in HAT, wat nogtans ook dikwels (anglisisties?) as s.nw. gebruik word. </p><p>'n Ander probleem is dat daar dikwels verskillende benamings gebruik word, selfs in skoolmateriale. Ek sien byv. Kainosoïkum op wiki, maar Senosoïkum in HAT. Is dit net sinonime of is Kaino- nie Afrikaans nie? Wat is die b.nw. van Kryt? Van Karboon? (Indien dit bestaan?) Ek het Ordovikium gesien naas Ordovisium. Ensomeer. </p><p>Gedagtes? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z-Tydperke" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z-Tydperke"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z-Tydperke"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span>PAW Patrol! <i>Geen klus te groot en geen pup te klein!</i></dd> <dd>WAT: <i>Kainosoïkum: Minder gewoon vir Senosoïkum.</i> Bl. 143, WAT, Deel V, J-KJ, 1975. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:11:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Karbonies - 2. (geol.) Van, betreffende, beh. tot die Karboon; Karboon-; Karboniese formasie, gesteentes, lae. (bl. 325, WAT, Deel V, J-KJ, 1975.)</dd> <dd>Die res van die woordeboeke het ek nie, wel in die dorpsbiblioteek. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:17, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z-Jcwf-2018-03-02T17:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z"></span>Volgens die aanlyn HAT is Mesosoïkum en Mesosoïes albei met hoofletters. Jura is die selfstandige naam en Jurassies die byvoeglike naamwoord. Kainosoïkum en Senosoïkum is sinonieme. Ek het die geologiese tydperke op Wikipedia gedoen en het die name deeglik (dink ek) nagevors. Karbonies is Karboon se byvoeglike naamwoord, maar ek dink nie Kryt het een nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Winstonza" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruiker:Winstonza">Winstonza</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Winstonza" class="mw-redirect" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Winstonza">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:45:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"></span>Jammer ek skryf nou eers, ek skryf nou in my aandklere. M & M: korrek. J & J: korrek. K & S: korrek. Kryt: Nee, ek dink ons plak net Kryt- vooraan. Anders word dit miskien Krities, en dit is erg verwarrend. Ek dink ek kan miskien een of ander tyd in die bib gaan kyk (Valerie Worth-Stylianou se <i>French: A handbook of grammar...</i> moet buitendien 6 Maart ingelewer word), lys maar die name so deurentyd. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:45:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:45:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:45:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:48:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"></span>O, ekskuus, ek sien nou eers dis Winston! :) Ek het my vergis. Ek het gedog dis Jcwf, hy het mos nie 'n WAT nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Suidpunt" title="Gebruiker:Suidpunt">Suidpunt</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Suidpunt">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:48:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:48:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suidpunt-2018-03-02T18:48:00.000Z-Winstonza-2018-03-02T18:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mieliestronk-2018-03-02T18:46:00.000Z-Tydperke"></span>Voorstel vir enigiemand met ernstige taalvrae wat darem baiemaal kundig bespreek sal word deur onder meer gerekende leksikograwe: Sluit jou aan by die groep Taaltameletjies op Facebook. Hulle het my al dikwels gehelp. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Gebruiker:Mieliestronk&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gebruiker:Mieliestronk (bladsy bestaan nie)">Mieliestronk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Mieliestronk" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Mieliestronk">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Mieliestronk-2018-03-02T18:46:00.000Z-Tydperke" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 2 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mieliestronk-2018-03-02T18:46:00.000Z-Tydperke"><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mieliestronk-2018-03-02T18:46:00.000Z-Tydperke"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="20_000_woorde!" data-mw-thread-id="h-20_000_woorde!-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"><span id="20_000_woorde.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-20_000_woorde!-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"></span>20 000 woorde!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-20_000_woorde!-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-03-13T14:12:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z-20_000_woorde!"></span>Geluk aan die woordeboek gemeenskap met 20,000 woorde! Doen so voort! Groete! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Oesjaar" title="Gebruiker:Oesjaar">Oesjaar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Oesjaar">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z-20_000_woorde!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:17, 13 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z-20_000_woorde!"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z-20_000_woorde!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-03-13T14:12:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"></span>Dankie Oesjaar! Om die volgende trappie te klim het ons opnames nodig sodat mense kan hoor hoe die woorde uitgespreek word. Daar is geen beter manier om die taal te dokumenteer en dit vir mense regoor die wêreld toeganklik te maak nie. Kan jy dalk help om voorbrand hiervoor te maak? Mens kan selfs vir Maroela se span om hulp nader. Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-03-13T14:12:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 13 Maart 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-03-13T14:12:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-03-13T14:12:00.000Z-Oesjaar-2018-03-13T13:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z"></span>Tell us what you think about the automatic links for Wiktionary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary"></span>Hello all, </p><p>(Sorry for writing in English. Feel free to translate this message below.) </p><p>One year ago, the Wikidata team started deploying new automatic interwiki links for Wiktionaries. Today, the links for the main namespace are automatically displayed by a Mediawiki extension, and the links for other namespaces are stored in Wikidata. You can find <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks" class="extiw" title="d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks">the documentation here</a> (feel free to help translating it in your language). </p><p>We would like to know if you encountered problems with the system, if you would have suggestions for further improvements. This could be for example: </p> <ul><li>Some automatic links don’t work as expected</li> <li>Some problems you encountered with entering links (for non-main namespace) in Wikidata</li> <li>Some new features you’d like to have, related to links</li></ul> <p>To give feedback, you have two options: </p> <ul><li>Let a message on <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Lexicographical_data/Sitelinks" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data/Sitelinks">this talk page</a></li> <li>Let a message here. If you do so, please mention me with the {{ping}} template, so I can get a notification.</li></ul> <p>Our preferred languages are English, French and German, but you can also let a message in your own language if you feel more comfortable with it. </p><p>I’m looking forward for your feedback! <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="d:User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">Lea Lacroix (WMDE)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 24 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary"><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-04-24T10:23:00.000Z-Tell_us_what_you_think_about_the_automatic_links_for_Wiktionary"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AdvancedSearch" data-mw-thread-id="h-AdvancedSearch-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AdvancedSearch-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z"></span>AdvancedSearch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AdvancedSearch-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Birgit_Müller_(WMDE)-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z-AdvancedSearch">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="af" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Birgit_Müller_(WMDE)-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z-AdvancedSearch"></span> Vanaf die 8ste Mei sal <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch">AdvancedSearch</a> as 'n <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Beta_Features" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Beta Features">beta funksie</a> in jou wiki beskikbaar wees. Die funksie verbeter die <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Soek" title="Spesiaal:Soek">soekbladsy</a> deur 'n gevorderde parametervorm en het die doel om <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch/Functional_scope" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/AdvancedSearch/Functional scope">bestaande soekopsies</a> vir amal meer sigbaar en toeganklik te maak. AdvancedSearch is 'n projek van <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/AdvancedSearch">WMDE Tegniese Wense</a>. Almal word uitgenooi om die funksie uit te toets, en ons hoop dat dit handig te pas sal kom in julle werk! </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Birgit_M%C3%BCller_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Birgit Müller (WMDE)">Birgit Müller (WMDE)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Birgit_Müller_(WMDE)-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z-AdvancedSearch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 7 Mei 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Birgit_Müller_(WMDE)-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z-AdvancedSearch"><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Birgit_Müller_(WMDE)-2018-05-07T14:44:00.000Z-AdvancedSearch"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z"></span>Lexicographical data is now available on Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata"></span>Hello, </p><p><i>Sorry for writing in English. Feel free to translate the content of this message below.</i> </p><p>After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team of Wikimedia Germany has now released the first version of <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data">lexicographical data support on Wikidata</a>. </p><p>Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. </p><p>The goal of lexicographical data on Wikidata is to provide a structured and machine-readable way to describe words and phrases in multiple languages, stored in a same place, reusable under CC-0. In the near future, this data will be available for Wiktionaries and other projects to reuse, as much as you want to. </p><p>For now, we’re at the first steps of this project: the new data structure has been released on Wikidata, and we’re looking for people to try it, and give us feedback on what is working or not. Participating to this project is the opportunity for you to have a voice in it, to make sure that your needs and requests are taken in account very early in the process, and to start populating Wikidata with words in your language! </p><p>Here’s how you can try lexicographical data on Wikidata: </p> <ul><li>First of all, if you’re not familiar with the data model, I encourage you to have a look at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data/Documentation">the documentation page</a>. If you’re not familiar with Wikidata at all, I suggest <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Contents" class="extiw" title="d:Help:Contents">this page</a> as a start point.</li> <li>You can also <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146">look at the Lexemes that already exists</a> (search features will be improved in the future).</li> <li>When you feel ready to create a word, go on <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme" class="extiw" title="d:Special:NewLexeme">d:Special:NewLexeme</a>.</li> <li>If some properties that you need are missing, you can <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes">suggest them on this page</a> (if you’re not sure how to do it, just let a message on the talk page and someone will help you).</li> <li>The main discussion page is <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data">d:Wikidata:Lexicographical data</a>. Here, you can ask for help, suggest ways to organize the data, but also leave feedback: if you encounter any bug or issue, let us know. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.</li></ul> <p>In any case, feel free to contact me if you have a question or problem, I’ll be very happy to help. </p><p>Cheers, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="d:User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">Lea Lacroix (WMDE)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 23 Mei 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata"><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-05-23T12:20:00.000Z-Lexicographical_data_is_now_available_on_Wikidata"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web" data-mw-thread-id="h-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z"></span>Update on page issues on mobile web<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web"></span>Update on page issues on mobile web</b> </p><p>Help met die vertaal na uw taal Hi everyone. The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Team" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Team">Readers web team</a> has recently begun working on exposing issue templates on the mobile website. Currently, details about issues with page content are generally hidden on the mobile website. This leaves readers unaware of the reliability of the pages they are reading. The goal of this project is to improve awareness of particular issues within an article on the mobile web. We will do this by changing the visual styling of page issues. </p><p>So far, we have <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues">drafted a proposal on the design and implementation</a> of the project. We were also able to run <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues/Research_Results" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues/Research Results">user testing on the proposed designs</a>. The tests so far have positive results. Here is a quick summary of what we learned: </p> <ul><li>The new treatment increases awareness of page issues among participants. This is true particularly when they are in a more evaluative/critical mode.</li> <li>Page issues make sense to readers and they understand how they work</li> <li>Readers care about page issues and consider them important</li> <li>Readers had overwhelmingly positive sentiments towards Wikipedia associated with learning about page issues</li></ul> <p>Our next step would be to start implementing these changes. We wanted to reach out to you for any concerns, thoughts, and suggestions you might have before beginning development. Please <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues">visit the project page</a> where we have more information and mockups of how this may look. Please <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues">leave feedback on the talk page</a>. </p> </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:CKoerner (WMF)">CKoerner (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:CKoerner (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 12 Junie 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web"><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-06-12T20:57:00.000Z-Update_on_page_issues_on_mobile_web"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Global_preferences_are_available" data-mw-thread-id="h-Global_preferences_are_available"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Global_preferences_are_available"></span>Global preferences are available<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Global_preferences_are_available"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p>Global preferences are now available, you can set them by visiting your new <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:GlobalPreferences" title="Spesiaal:GlobalPreferences">global preferences page</a>. Visit <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalPreferences" class="extiw" title="mw:Help:Extension:GlobalPreferences">mediawiki.org for information on how to use them</a> and <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:GlobalPreferences" class="extiw" title="mw:Help talk:Extension:GlobalPreferences">leave feedback</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Keegan_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:Keegan (WMF)">Keegan (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Keegan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)">talk</a>) </p> </div><p> 19:19, 10 Julie 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" data-mw-thread-id="h-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z"><span id="Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS.2FJS"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z"></span>Consultation on the creation of a separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Tgr-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgr-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J"></span>(Help met die vertaal na uw taal)</i> </p><p>Hi all, </p><p>I'm preparing a change in who can edit sitewide CSS/JS pages. (These are pages like <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Common.css</code> and <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Vector.js</code> which are executed in the browser of all readers and editors.) Currently all administrators are able to edit these pages, which poses a serious and unnecessary security risk. Soon, a dedicated, smaller user group will take over this task. Your community will be able to decide who belongs in this group, so this should mean very little change for you. You can find out more and provide feedback at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS">the consultation page on Meta</a>. If you are involved in maintaining CSS/JS code, or policymaking around adminship requests, please give it a look! </p><p>Thanks! <br/><span dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User:Tgr">Tgr</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Tgr">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Tgr-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:45, 12 Julie 2018 (UTC)</a> <small>(via <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Global_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery">global message delivery</a>)</small></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgr-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J"><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgr-2018-07-12T08:45:00.000Z-Consultation_on_the_creation_of_a_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/J"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z"><span id="New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS.2FJS"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z"></span>New user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Tgr-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgr-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS"></span>(Help met die vertaal na uw taal)</i> </p><p>Hi all! </p><p>To improve the security of our readers and editors, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed. (These are pages like <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Common.css</code> and <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:Vector.js</code> which contain code that is executed in the browsers of users of the site.) A new user group, <code dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Interface_administrators" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Interface administrators">interface-admin</a></code>, has been created. Starting four weeks from now, only members of this group will be able edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with <code dir="ltr">.css</code> or <code dir="ltr">.js</code> that is either in the <code dir="ltr">MediaWiki:</code> namespace or is another user's user subpage). </p><p>You can learn more about the motivation behind the change <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS">here</a>. </p><p>Please add users who need to edit CSS/JS to the new group (this can be done the same way new administrators are added, by stewards or local bureaucrats). This is a dangerous permission; a malicious user or a hacker taking over the account of a careless interface-admin can abuse it in far worse ways than admin permissions could be abused. Please only assign it to users who need it, who are trusted by the community, and who follow common basic password and computer security practices (use strong passwords, do not reuse passwords, use two-factor authentication if possible, do not install software of questionable origin on your machine, use antivirus software if that's a standard thing in your environment). </p><p>Thanks! <br/><span dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User:Tgr">Tgr</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Tgr">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Tgr-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 30 Julie 2018 (UTC)</a> <small>(via <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Global_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery">global message delivery</a>)</small></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgr-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS"><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgr-2018-07-30T13:08:00.000Z-New_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z"></span>Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png/220px-Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="172" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png/330px-Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png/440px-Screenshot_of_Hubs_on_Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard.png 2x" data-file-width="900" data-file-height="703"/></a><figcaption>Screenshot of the Hub view</figcaption></figure> <p><i>Sorry for writing this message in English. Feel free to help translate it below.</i> </p><p>Hello all, </p><p>A few months ago, we asked you for feedback about <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Wiktionary/Sitelinks">Cognate</a>, the system allowing interwikilinks between Wiktionaries (on main namespace). Several community members gave some suggestions, one of them was to provide statistics about these interwikilinks. </p><p>The Wikidata team is pleased to present you the <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wdcm.wmflabs.org/Wiktionary_CognateDashboard/">Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard</a></b>, a website presenting a lot of interesting information about how Wiktionaries are connected to each others. You can find there, for example: </p> <ul><li>the most interlinked Wiktionary entries not having a page on your Wiktionary</li> <li>the number of interlinks between each possible pair of Wiktionaries</li> <li>visualizations of the relationships between different Wiktionaries</li></ul> <p>To learn more about the tool, you can have a look at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard" class="extiw" title="m:Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard">the documentation</a> (please help us translating it in your language!). The interface of the tool itself can also be translated in other languages by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard/Interface" class="extiw" title="m:Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard/Interface">using this page</a>. </p><p>If you find a bug, please let a comment on <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166487" class="extiw" title="phab:T166487">this Phabricator task</a> or ping me onwiki. Thanks a lot, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="d:User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)">Lea Lacroix (WMDE)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 14 Augustus 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard"><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE)-2018-08-14T13:08:00.000Z-Wiktionary_Cognate_Dashboard"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_now" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z"><span id="Editing_of_sitewide_CSS.2FJS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_now"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Editing of sitewide CSS/JS is only possible for interface administrators from now<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Tgr-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgr-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no"></span>(Help met die vertaal na uw taal)</i> </p> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p>Hi all, </p><p>as <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS/announcement_2" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS/announcement 2">announced previously</a>, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed: only members of the <code><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Interface_administrators" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Interface administrators">interface-admin</a></code> (Koppelvlakadministrateurs) group, and a few highly privileged global groups such as stewards, can edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with .css or .js that is either in the MediaWiki: namespace or is another user's user subpage). This is done to improve the security of readers and editors of Wikimedia projects. More information is available at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Creation_of_separate_user_group_for_editing_sitewide_CSS/JS" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS">Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS</a>. If you encounter any unexpected problems, please contact me or file a bug. </p><p>Thanks!<br/> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User:Tgr">Tgr</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tgr" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Tgr">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Tgr-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 27 Augustus 2018 (UTC)</a> <small>(via <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Global_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery">global message delivery</a>)</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgr-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no"><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgr-2018-08-27T12:39:00.000Z-Editing_of_sitewide_CSS/JS_is_only_possible_for_interface_administrators_from_no"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October" data-mw-thread-id="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October"></span>Read-only mode for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_an_hour_on_12_September_and_10_October"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch_2018" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch 2018">Read this message in another language</a> • Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p><p>The <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="foundation:">Wikimedia Foundation</a> will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems. </p><p>They will switch all traffic to the secondary data center on <b>Wednesday, 12 September 2018</b>. On <b>Wednesday, 10 October 2018</b>, they will switch back to the primary data center. </p><p>Unfortunately, because of some limitations in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:What_is_MediaWiki%3F" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:What is MediaWiki?">MediaWiki</a>, all editing must stop when we switch. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future. </p><p><b>You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.</b> </p> <ul><li>You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Wednesday, 12 September and Wednesday, 10 October. The test will start at <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170503T14">14:00 UTC</a> (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Thursday 13 September and Thursday 11 October).</li> <li>If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.</li></ul> <p><i>Other effects</i>: </p> <ul><li>Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.</li> <li>There will be code freezes for the weeks of 10 September 2018 and 8 October 2018. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.</li></ul> <p>This project may be postponed if necessary. You can <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Switch_Datacenter#Schedule_for_2018_switch" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Switch Datacenter">read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org</a>. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. <b>Please share this information with your community.</b> /<span dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johan (WMF)">User:Johan(WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Johan (WMF)">talk</a>)</span> </p> </div></div><p> 13:32, 6 September 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_GFDL_license_on_Commons" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_GFDL_license_on_Commons"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_GFDL_license_on_Commons"></span>The GFDL license on Commons<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_GFDL_license_on_Commons"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>This has been posted here because your wiki allows local file uploads. Help met die vertaal na uw taal. </p><p>Commons <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals/Archive/2018/08#No_longer_allow_GFDL_for_some_new_uploads" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Village pump/Proposals/Archive/2018/08">will no longer allow</a> uploads of photos, paintings, drawings, audio and video that use the GFDL <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Licensing">license</a> and no other license. This starts after 14 October. Textbooks, manuals and logos, diagrams and screenshots from GFDL software manuals that only use the GFDL license are still allowed. Files licensed with both GFDL and an accepted license like Creative Commons BY-SA are still allowed. </p><p>There is no time limit to move files from other projects to Commons. The licensing date is all that counts. It doesn't matter when the file was uploaded or created. Every wiki that allows local uploads should check if bots, scripts and templates that are used to move files to Commons need to be updated. Also update your local policy documentation if needed. </p><p>The decision to allow files that only have a GFDL license, or not allow them, is a decision all wikis can make for themselves. Your wiki can decide to continue allowing the files that Commons will no longer allow after 14 October. If your wiki decides to continue to allow files after 14 October that Commons will no longer allow those files should not be moved to Commons. — <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Alexis_Jazz" title="Gebruiker:Alexis Jazz">Alexis Jazz</a>, <small>distributed by <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Johan_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:Johan (WMF)">Johan</a> using <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/MassMessage" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/MassMessage">MassMessage</a></small> </p> </div></div><p> 18:10, 20 September 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October"></span>Reminder: No editing for up to an hour on 10 October<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder:_No_editing_for_up_to_an_hour_on_10_October"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="af" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server_switch_2018_2" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch 2018 2">Lees hierdie boodskap in ń ander taal</a> • Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p><p>Die <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.org/">Wikimedia-stigting</a> toets sy sekondêre datasentrum Dit sal verseker dat Wikipedia en die ander Wikimedia wikis aanlyn kan bly, selfs na ń ramp. </p><p>Hulle het op 12 September 2018 alle verkeer na die secondêre datasentrum verander. Op <b>Woensdag, 10 Oktober 2018</b>, sal hulle terug na die primêre datasentrum verander. </p><p>Ongelukkig as gevolg van sommige beperkings in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:What_is_MediaWiki%3F" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:What is MediaWiki?">MediaWiki</a>, alle redigeerwerk moet stilstand wanneer ons verander. </p><p><b>U sal vir ń kort tydperk alle wikis kan lees, maar nie redigeer nie.</b> </p><p>U sal nie toegelaat op Woensdag, 10 Oktober vir ń uur te redigeer nie. Die toets sal 'n bietjie later as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20181010T14">14:00 UTC</a> (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST) begin. As u gedurende hierdie tye probeer redigeer of bewaar, sal u ń foutboodskap sien. </p><p>Hierdie projek kon uitgestel word indien dit nodig is. Jy kan <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Switch_Datacenter#Schedule_for_2018_switch" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Switch Datacenter">die skedule lees by wikitech.wikimedia.org</a>. Enige veranderinge sal in die skedule aangekondig word. <b>Deel hierdie inligting asseblief met u se gemeenskap.</b> /<span dir="ltr"><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johan (WMF)">User:Johan(WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Johan (WMF)">talk</a>)</span> </p> </div></div><p> 12:03, 4 Oktober 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Community_Wishlist_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Community_Wishlist_Survey"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Community_Wishlist_Survey"></span>The Community Wishlist Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Community_Wishlist_Survey"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>The Community Wishlist Survey. Help met die vertaal na uw taal. </p><p>Hey everyone, </p><p>The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Community Tech">Community Tech</a> should work on over the next year. </p><p>The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can post technical proposals from now until 11 November. The communities will vote on the proposals between 16 November and 30 November. You can read more on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2019">wishlist survey page</a>. </p> <span dir="ltr">/<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johan (WMF)">User:Johan (WMF)</a></span></div></div><p> 11:05, 30 Oktober 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web" data-mw-thread-id="h-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z"></span>Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web"></span>Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web</b> </p><p>Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg/220px-Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="177" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg/330px-Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg/440px-Page_issues_-_mobile_banner_example.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2206" data-file-height="1774"/></a><figcaption>Example of improvements</figcaption></figure> <p>Hello, </p><p>In a few weeks the Readers web team will be changing how some templates look on the mobile web site. We will make these templates more noticeable when viewing the article. We ask for your help in updating any templates that don't look correct. </p><p>What kind of templates? Specifically templates that notify readers and contributors about issues with the content of an article – the text and information in the article. Examples like <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5962027" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q5962027">Template:Unreferenced</a> or <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5619503" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q5619503">Template:More citations needed</a>. Right now these notifications are hidden behind a link under the title of an article. We will format templates like these (mostly those that use Template:Ambox or message box templates in general) to show a short summary under the page title. You can tap on the "Learn more" link to get more information. </p><p>For template editors we have <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Recommendations_for_mobile_friendly_articles_on_Wikimedia_wikis#Making_page_issues_(ambox_templates)_mobile_friendly" class="extiw" title="mw:Recommendations for mobile friendly articles on Wikimedia wikis">some recommendations on how to make templates that are mobile-friendly</a> and also further <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues" class="extiw" title="mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues">documentation on our work so far</a>. </p><p>If you have questions about formatting templates for mobile, <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile_Page_Issues" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Mobile Page Issues">please leave a note on the project talk page</a> or <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projects=Readers-Web-Backlog">file a task in Phabricator</a> and we will help you. </p><p>Baie dankie! </p> </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:CKoerner (WMF)">CKoerner (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:CKoerner (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web"><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-11-13T19:34:00.000Z-Change_coming_to_how_certain_templates_will_appear_on_the_mobile_web"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote" data-mw-thread-id="h-Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote"></span>Community Wishlist Survey vote<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Community_Wishlist_Survey_vote"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>The Community Wishlist Survey. Help met die vertaal na uw taal. </p><p>Hey everyone, </p><p>The Community Wishlist Survey is the process when the Wikimedia communities decide what the Wikimedia Foundation <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Community Tech">Community Tech</a> should work on over the next year. </p><p>The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. The communities have now posted a long list of technical proposals. You can vote on the proposals from now until 30 November. You can read more on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2019">wishlist survey page</a>. </p> <span dir="ltr">/<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johan_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johan (WMF)">User:Johan (WMF)</a></span></div></div><p> 18:13, 22 November 2018 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advanced_Search" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advanced_Search-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advanced_Search-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z"></span>Advanced Search<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advanced_Search-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z-Advanced_Search">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/AdvancedSearch" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/AdvancedSearch"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z-Advanced_Search"></span>Advanced Search</a> will become a default feature on your wiki on November 28. This new interface allows you to perform specialized searches on the <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Soek" title="Spesiaal:Soek">search page</a>, even if you don’t know any <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch">search syntax</a>. Advanced Search originates from the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes">German Community’s Technical Wishes project</a>. It's already a default feature on German, Arabic, Farsi and Hungarian Wikipedia. Besides, more than 40.000 users across all wikis have tested the beta version. Feedback is welcome on the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:AdvancedSearch" class="extiw" title="mw:Help talk:Extension:AdvancedSearch">central feedback page</a>.</div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)">Johanna Strodt (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z-Advanced_Search" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z-Advanced_Search"><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2018-11-26T10:57:00.000Z-Advanced_Search"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bladsy_titel_verander?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bladsy_titel_verander?-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z"><span id="Bladsy_titel_verander.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bladsy_titel_verander?-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z"></span>Bladsy titel verander?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bladsy_titel_verander?-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z-Bladsy_titel_verander?">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z-Bladsy_titel_verander?"></span>Hoë verander 'n mens die titel van 'n bladsy? [Spelling van inskrywing] </p><p>Ons het nie dieselfde opsie as op die Engelse wiktionary ('move', langs wysig) nie. Beta verskil? </p><p>Ek het 'n verkeerde karakter gebruik ('ê' in plaas van 'e') en dit pla my erg. </p><p>Dankie </p> <dl><dd><span class="afb_stemsjabloon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Uitgevoer"><img alt="Uitgevoer" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/17px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png" decoding="async" width="17" height="17" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/26px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png/34px-Crystal_Clear_action_apply.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></span> Kyk vir die "skuif" opsie (onder "Meer"). Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z-Bladsy_titel_verander?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 29 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z-Bladsy_titel_verander?"><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2018-11-29T19:08:00.000Z-Bladsy_titel_verander?"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z"></span>New Wikimedia password policy and requirements<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements">6 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements"></span>Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation security team is implementing a new <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Password_policy" class="extiw" title="m:Password policy">password policy and requirements</a>. <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Security_Team/Password_strengthening_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikimedia Security Team/Password strengthening 2019">You can learn more about the project on MediaWiki.org</a>. </p><p>These new requirements will apply to new accounts and privileged accounts. New accounts will be required to create a password with a minimum length of 8 characters. Privileged accounts will be prompted to update their password to one that is at least 10 characters in length. </p><p>These changes are planned to be in effect on December 13th. If you think your work or tools will be affected by this change, please let us know on <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Security_Team/Password_strengthening_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Wikimedia Security Team/Password strengthening 2019">the talk page</a>. </p><p>Baie dankie! </p> </div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:CKoerner (WMF)">CKoerner (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:CKoerner_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:CKoerner (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 6 Desember 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements"><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CKoerner_(WMF)-2018-12-06T20:02:00.000Z-New_Wikimedia_password_policy_and_requirements"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedia_Summit_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z"></span>Selection of the Tremendous Wiktionary User Group representative to the Wikimedia Summit 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Balajijagadesh-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Balajijagadesh-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi"></span>Dear all, </p><p>Sorry for posting this message in English and last minute notification. The <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group" class="extiw" title="m:Tremendous Wiktionary User Group">Tremendous Wiktionary User Group</a> could send one representative to the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Summit_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia Summit 2019">Wikimedia Summit 2019</a> (formerly "Wikimedia Conference"). The Wikimedia Summit is an yearly conference of all organizations affiliated to the Wikimedia Movement (including our Tremendous Wiktionary User Group). It is a great place to talk about Wiktionary needs to the chapters and other user groups that compose the Wikimedia movement. </p><p>For context, there is a <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2018/Further_reports/Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia Conference 2018/Further reports/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group">short report on what happened last year</a>. The deadline is very close to 24 hrs. The last date for registration is 17 December 2018. As a last minute effort, there is a <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group/Wikimedia_Summit_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Tremendous Wiktionary User Group/Wikimedia Summit 2019">page on meta to decide who will be the representative of the user group to the Wikimedia Summit</a></b> created. </p><p>Please feel free to ask any question on the <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiktionary-l">wiktionary-l</a> mailing list or on the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiktionary/Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Wiktionary/Tremendous Wiktionary User Group">talk page</a>. </p><p>For the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group" class="extiw" title="m:Tremendous Wiktionary User Group">Tremendous Wiktionary User Group</a>, -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=Gebruiker:Balajijagadesh&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gebruiker:Balajijagadesh (bladsy bestaan nie)">Balajijagadesh</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Balajijagadesh-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 16 Desember 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Balajijagadesh-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi"><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Balajijagadesh-2018-12-16T05:56:00.000Z-Selection_of_the_Tremendous_Wiktionary_User_Group_representative_to_the_Wikimedi"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z"></span>Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019"></span>Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p> <figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:WLL_Subtitled_Logo_(transparent).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg/220px-WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="293" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg/330px-WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg/440px-WLL_Subtitled_Logo_%28transparent%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="300" data-file-height="400"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Love is an important subject for humanity and it is expressed in different cultures and regions in different ways across the world through different gestures, ceremonies, festivals and to document expression of this rich and beautiful emotion, we need your help so we can share and spread the depth of cultures that each region has, the best of how people of that region, celebrate love. </p><p><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Wiki Loves Love">Wiki Loves Love (WLL)</a> is an international photography competition of Wikimedia Commons with the subject love testimonials happening in the month of February. </p><p>The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects. </p><p>The theme of 2019 iteration is <i><b>Celebrations, Festivals, Ceremonies and rituals of love.</b></i> </p><p>Sign up your affiliate or individually at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019/Participants" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Wiki Loves Love 2019/Participants">Participants</a> page. </p><p>To know more about the contest, check out our <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2019" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Wiki Loves Love 2019">Commons Page</a> and <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2018/FAQ" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Wiki Loves Love 2018/FAQ">FAQs</a> </p><p>There are several prizes to grab. Hope to see you spreading love this February with Wiki Loves Love! </p><p>Kind regards, </p><p><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Love_2018/International_Team" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Wiki Loves Love 2018/International Team">Wiki Loves Love Team</a> </p><p>Imagine... the sum of all love! </p> </div> <p>--<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="Gebruikerbespreking:MediaWiki message delivery">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 27 Desember 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019"><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-12-27T10:12:00.000Z-Invitation_from_Wiki_Loves_Love_2019"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FileExporter_beta_feature" data-mw-thread-id="h-FileExporter_beta_feature-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FileExporter_beta_feature-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z"></span>FileExporter beta feature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FileExporter_beta_feature-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z-FileExporter_beta_feature">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z-FileExporter_beta_feature"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg/220px-Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg/330px-Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg/440px-Logo_for_the_beta_feature_FileExporter.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="264" data-file-height="162"/></a><figcaption>Coming soon: the beta feature <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Move files to Commons">FileExporter</a></figcaption></figure> <p>A new beta feature will soon be released on all wikis: The <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Move files to Commons">FileExporter</a>. It allows exports of files from a local wiki to Wikimedia Commons, including their file history and page history. Which files can be exported is defined by each wiki's community: <b>Please check your wiki's <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons/Configuration_file_documentation" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Move files to Commons/Configuration file documentation">configuration file</a></b> if you want to use this feature. </p><p>The FileExporter has already been a beta feature on <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org">mediawiki.org</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org">meta.wikimedia</a>, deWP, faWP, arWP, koWP and on <a class="external text" href="https://wikisource.org">wikisource.org</a>. After some functionality was added, it's now becoming a beta feature on all wikis. Deployment is planned for January 16. More information can be found <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Move files to Commons">on the project page</a>. </p><p>As always, feedback is highly appreciated. If you want to test the FileExporter, please activate it in your <a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Voorkeure#mw-prefsection-betafeatures" title="Spesiaal:Voorkeure">user preferences</a>. The best place for feedback is the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Extension:FileImporter" class="extiw" title="mw:Help talk:Extension:FileImporter">central talk page</a>. Thank you from Wikimedia Deutschland's <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes">Technical Wishes project</a>. </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)" title="Gebruiker:Johanna Strodt (WMDE)">Johanna Strodt (WMDE)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z-FileExporter_beta_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 14 Januarie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z-FileExporter_beta_feature"><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johanna_Strodt_(WMDE)-2019-01-14T09:41:00.000Z-FileExporter_beta_feature"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January"></span>No editing for 30 minutes 17 January<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_editing_for_30_minutes_17_January"></span></h2></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">You will <b>not be able to edit</b> the wikis for up to 30 minutes on <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20190117T07">17 January 07:00 UTC</a></b>. This is because of a database problem that has to be fixed immediately. You can still read the wikis. Some wikis are not affected. They don't get this message. You can see which wikis are <b>not</b> affected <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Johan_(WMF)/201901ReadOnlyPage" class="extiw" title="m:User:Johan (WMF)/201901ReadOnlyPage">on this page</a>. Most wikis are affected. The time you can't edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Johan_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:Johan (WMF)">Johan (WMF)</a></div><p> 14:47, 16 Januarie 2019 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk_to_us_about_talking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk_to_us_about_talking-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk_to_us_about_talking-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z"></span>Talk to us about talking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk_to_us_about_talking-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Trizek_(WMF)-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z-Talk_to_us_about_talking">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trizek_(WMF)-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z-Talk_to_us_about_talking"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt=""icon depicting two speech Bubbles"" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg/120px-OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="120" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg/180px-OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg/240px-OOjs_UI_icon_speechBubbles-rtl.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="20"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019">global consultation about communication</a>. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication. </p><p>We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices. </p><p>We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives. </p><p>We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help. </p><p><b>We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.</b> </p><p>You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do: </p> <ol><li>First, <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Participant_group_sign-up" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019/Participant group sign-up">sign up your group here.</a></li> <li>Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.</li> <li>Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions: <ol><li>When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?</li> <li>What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?</li> <li>What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?</li> <li>What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?</li> <li>What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?</li></ol></li> <li>Finally, please go to <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Talk pages consultation 2019">Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org</a> and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.</li></ol> <p><b>You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.</b> </p><p>Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Tools_in_use" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019/Tools in use">how your group communicates</a>. </p><p>You can read more about <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019">the overall process</a> on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:Talk pages consultation 2019">leave feedback about the consultation process</a> in the language you prefer. </p><p>Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you. </p> </div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=Gebruiker:Trizek_(WMF)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gebruiker:Trizek (WMF) (bladsy bestaan nie)">Trizek (WMF)</a> <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Trizek_(WMF)-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z-Talk_to_us_about_talking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 21 Februarie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trizek_(WMF)-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z-Talk_to_us_about_talking"><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trizek_(WMF)-2019-02-21T15:00:00.000Z-Talk_to_us_about_talking"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April" data-mw-thread-id="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April"></span>Read-only mode for up to 30 minutes on 11 April<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Read-only_mode_for_up_to_30_minutes_on_11_April"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">You will <b>not be able to edit</b> most Wikimedia wikis for up to 30 minutes on <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20190411T05">11 April 05:00 UTC</a></b>. This is because of a hardware problem. You can still read the wikis. You <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220080" class="extiw" title="phab:T220080">can see which wikis are affected</a>. The time you can not edit might be shorter than 30 minutes. /<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Johan_(WMF)" title="Gebruiker:Johan (WMF)">Johan (WMF)</a></div></div></div><p> 10:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z"></span>Wikimedia Foundation Medium-Term Plan feedback request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Quiddity_(WMF)-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 opmerking</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quiddity_(WMF)-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request"></span>Help met die vertaal na uw taal </p> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">The Wikimedia Foundation has published a <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Medium-term plan 2019">Medium-Term Plan proposal</a> covering the next 3–5 years. We want your feedback! Please leave all comments and questions, in any language, on <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Medium-term plan 2019">the talk page</a>, by April 20. Baie dankie! <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Quiddity_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User:Quiddity (WMF)">Quiddity (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Quiddity (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Quiddity_(WMF)-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quiddity_(WMF)-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request"><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quiddity_(WMF)-2019-04-12T17:35:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-Term_Plan_feedback_request"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Uitspraakriglyne" data-mw-thread-id="h-Uitspraakriglyne-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Uitspraakriglyne-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span>Uitspraakriglyne<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Uitspraakriglyne-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:37:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 mens in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z-Uitspraakriglyne"></span>Is daar iewers riglyne wat geld vir die IPA-weergawe van uitspraak op die Afrikaanse Wiktionary? Ek sou graag wou weet – slegs as voorbeeld – waarom "mooi" getranskribeer word as [moːɪ̯]? In al my jare wat ek in die Afrikaanse taalkunde werk, het ek dit nog nie teëgekom dat ons 'n [ɪ] in Afrikaans kry nie; ook nie dat ons nonsillabiese annotasie soos [ɪ̯] gebruik nie. Dit is meer gebruiklik om dit te transkribeer as [moi], of in my dialek as [mɔi]. Dit is selfs deesdae gebruiklik om nie lengte [ː] aan te dui nie, behalwe in gevalle waar rekking ter sprake is. 'n Ander geval is byvoorbeeld die aanduiding van sillabegrense, wat lyk asof dit nie konsekwent gedoen word nie. Ek sou byvoorbeeld "die mooiste" transkribeer as [di ˈmoi.stə], waar [ˈ] primêre klem aandui en [.] 'n sillabegrens. Ek wil nou nie dwars wees en goed gaan verander as daar iewers 'n verantwoorde riglyn hieroor bestaan nie. Met die samestelling van die IFA-tabel in die nuutste Afrikaanse woordelys en spelreëls (2017) het ons baie moeite gedoen om dit ooreenkomstig nuutste insigte en praktyke te probeer standaardiseer. Maar dit is natuurlik nie die alfa en die omega nie; ek luister graag as daar hier ander riglyne geld. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z-Uitspraakriglyne" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z-Uitspraakriglyne"><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z-Uitspraakriglyne"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:37:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span>Ek weet niks van Afrikaanse transkribering nie. Jy kan seker reg het dat [ɪ] ontereg is vir Afrikaans. Vir my Nederlandse ore lyk dit of dieselfde geld vir [o]. Ek hoor net [ɔ] of 'n tweeklank [ʊə] of so. Ek dink egter dat vir tweeklanke 'n nie-sillabiese annotasie verdedigbaar is. Mooi word mos nie as tweelettergrepig moo-ïe uitgespreek nie. Jy sou selfs aan [mɔj] kan dink.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Ek stem saam dat : rekking behoort aan te dui. In Nederlands het ek daarvoor baie stryd moet lewer.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Maar IFA is altyd net 'n <i>benadering</i> en jy kan baie baklei hoe om dit te doen. Dis hoekom ek probeer om Oesjaar se kletslêers in te voer. Manie het die meeste IFA ingevoer en hy het lank geleë verdwyn.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Maar as jy 'n konsistente manier het om IFA in te voer sou ek dit graag sien. Maar wel dat JY die werk doen. Ons het geen behoefte aan mense wat werkopdragte kom gee nie. <dl><dd>Dankie vir die antwoord. Ek is DEFINITIEF nie hier om opdragte te gee nie; wil graag help waar ek kan. Daarom dat ek ook eers vra, voor ek sommer net lostrek en na eie goeddunke optree.</dd> <dd>Ek het ook 'n PhD-student wat tans werk aan 'n uitspraakwoordeboek vir Afrikaans; dit sou gaaf wees as 'n mens die data hier en haar data met mekaar kon belyn (in beide rigtings). Ons sou egter wel 'n hele klomp goed sistematies kon/wou doen - selfs met 'n transkripsieprotokol wat as vertrekpunt dien en wat 'n mens dan hier beskikbaar kan stel vir toekomstige gebruikers.</dd> <dd>Ek dink ook ons sal probeer om dit sistematies te doen deur gebruik te maak van die "Python Wikipedia Robot Framework". Ons is nog eers besig om die kode te verken, ook met die ondersteuning van <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a></dd> <dd>Tot slot, oor die nie-sillabiese annotasie: Anna Coetzee het, na my wete, in haar werk altyd breking met 'n halfvokaal aangedui, dus bv. iets soos [mɔʲi]. Soos jy sê, 'n mens sou seker vir ure hieroor kon argumenteer; dalk kom 'n mens dan nie eers by 'n antwoord uit nie ... Die AWS se houding was dus 'n bietjie pragmaties: Transkribeer sonder die fynste fonetiese wisseling wat moontlik is, maar verskaf 'n transkripsie wat so algemeen as moontlik geld.</dd> <dd>Dankie vir al jou antwoorde. Gewaardeerd! <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:37:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:37:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:37:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arabiese_transliterasie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arabiese_transliterasie-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arabiese_transliterasie-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span>Arabiese transliterasie<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arabiese_transliterasie-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T05:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>7 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z-Arabiese_transliterasie"></span>Wat is die bron vir die Arabiese transliterasies wat gebruik word in die Afrikaanse Wiktionary? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z-Arabiese_transliterasie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:07, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z-Arabiese_transliterasie"><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z-Arabiese_transliterasie"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span>Ek het geen idee. Manie het dit ingevoer en hy is lank weg. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-92" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"></span>As die geldigheid (en bron) hiervan nie geverifieer kan word nie, sal dit nie beter wees om dit liewer sistematies te verwyder nie? Dis tog eintlik mos 'n beginsel van Wikimedia dat inligting ten minste geverifieerd aangebied moet word? Hoor graag wat jou gevoel hieroor is. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:39, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-93" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z"></span>Nee <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-94" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z"></span>Miskien moet jy hierdie bladsy gaan lees: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability</a>. Dit sal jou dalk help om my vraag beter te verstaan? Of geld dit dus nie Wiktionary nie? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 29 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-95" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span>Ek glo die Arabiese transliterasies kan redelik maklik bevestig word. Dit is net Afrikaans met 'n ander alfabet. Dit behoort standaardreëls te hê, maar ek is nie so talentvol nie. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:PixelVulpix" title="Gebruiker:PixelVulpix">PixelVulpix</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:PixelVulpix" title="Gebruikerbespreking:PixelVulpix">kontak</a>) <dl><dd>Dankie, <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:PixelVulpix" title="Gebruiker:PixelVulpix">PixelVulpix</a>. Die enigste transliterasiereëls waarvan ek bewus is, is dié wat Achmat Davids in sy verhandeling <i>The Afrikaans of the Cape Muslims from 1815 to 1915</i> (onlangs gepubliseer as <i>Die Afrikaans van die Kaapse Moslems</i>) bespreek het. As dit die basis is van die inligting hier op Wiktionary, en as dit noukeurig ingevoer is, dan het ek vertroue daarin. Maar dit pla my dat 'n mens nie die betroubaarheid daarvan kan verifieer nie. Ken jy dalk vir Manie waarna vroeër verwys is? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 29 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-96" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T05:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z"></span>Die Arabies was nog altyd verdag en ek het al talle kere onsuksesvol met Manie probeer kontak maak. Interessant genoeg kan mens die Arabiese teks kopieer en met Google Translate vertaal, wat jou soms (so amper) by die oorspronklike woord terugbring. As voorbeeld: "Mooi" -> "مَُويْ" -> "Moi". Ander werk weer glad nie: "baie" -> "بَیِی" -> "PII". Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T05:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 29 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T05:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-97" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T05:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spelling_tot_1909" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spelling_tot_1909-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spelling_tot_1909-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Spelling tot 1909<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spelling_tot_1909-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T06:07:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z-Spelling_tot_1909"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Akedamieberig.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Dié berig oor die Akademie se stigting het in die koerant Het Westen verskyn."><img alt="Dié berig oor die Akademie se stigting het in die koerant Het Westen verskyn." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Akedamieberig.jpg/300px-Akedamieberig.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="318" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Akedamieberig.jpg/450px-Akedamieberig.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Akedamieberig.jpg/600px-Akedamieberig.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1296" data-file-height="1372"/></a><figcaption>Dié berig oor die Akademie se stigting het in die koerant Het Westen verskyn.</figcaption></figure> <p>Wat is die bron vir die inligting onder "Spelling tot 1909"? En wat is die noodsaak hiervan? En waarom spesifiek 1909? Ek sien byvoorbeeld onder "mooi" die volgende vorme: mooi-ër, mójer, mó-jer. Waarom is daar koppeltekens in mooi-ër en mó-jer? Is dit inderdaad so gespel? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z-Spelling_tot_1909" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z-Spelling_tot_1909"><span id="ooui-php-98" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z-Spelling_tot_1909"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Dit is ook Manie se erfenis. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"></span>Insgelyks, as die korrektheid en geldigheid hiervan nie kontroleerbaar is nie, moet ons dit nie liewer verwyder nie? Ek sou veel eerder wou sien dat 'n mens van die vroeë Afrikaanse woordelyste as basis gebruik om van die inligting outomaties te kontroleer; waar dit wel geverifieer kan word, die data te behou; en dan die bronverwysing by te voeg. Jou gevoel? <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z"></span>Nee <dl><dd>Ek het namelik baie meer respek vir iemand baie meer werk verrig het as jy. En wat kennis het gehad van aspekte van die Afrikaanse taal wat jy dalk nie besit nie of nie wil besit nie.<a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:02:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Ag, aarde, ek het nie tyd vir sulke disrespekvolle kommunikasie nie. En ek is nogal deur ander gebruikers gewaarsku teen jou ... Onthou asb. dat Wikipedia/Wiktionary groter is as jy (en jou ego), <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a>.</dd> <dd>Ek hoor graag wat ander gebruikers se gedagtes is. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:02:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 29 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:02:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-102" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-29T05:02:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T06:07:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Die spelling voor 1909 kom moontlik uit S.J. du Toit se "Patriot woordeboek", maar ek het nie nou tyd om te bevestig nie. Dis ook opmerklik dat die Suid-Afrikaanse Akademie vir Wetenskap en Kuns in 1909 gesig is (enkele jare na die aanvang van Tweede Taalbeweging). Groete. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Naudefj" title="Gebruiker:Naudefj">Naudefj</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Naudefj">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T06:07:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:07, 29 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T06:07:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-103" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naudefj-2019-07-29T06:07:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wysigings_aan_sjablone?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z"><span id="Wysigings_aan_sjablone.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z"></span>Wysigings aan sjablone?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Nuutste opmerking: <a href="#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:50:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z">5 jaar gelede</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 opmerkings</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 mense in gesprek</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"></span>M.b.t. tot die sjablone: </p> <ol><li>Waarom word die begrip "teengesteldes" in <b>!-- Teengesteldes --</b> gebruik? Bedoel dit eintlik "teenoorgesteldes", oftewel "antonieme"? As die term "sinonieme" in <b>!-- Sinonieme --</b> gebruik word, sou ek graag wou voorstel dat 'n mens <b>!-- Antonieme --</b> en <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-anto-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-anto- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-anto-</a> gebruik.</li> <li>Ek sou ook graag wou sien dat <b>!-- Antonieme --</b> direk op <b>!-- Sinonieme --</b> volg, aangesien hulle konseptueel verbandhoudend is (d.i. op semantiese verhoudings dui).</li> <li>Ek besef dit is onnodig punteneurig, maar kan <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-afgelyd.w-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-afgelyd.w- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-afgelyd.w-</a> en ==== <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/25px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/38px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/50px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/afleiding" title="afleiding">Afleiding</a> ==== nie maar onderskeidelik <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-afgeleid.w-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-afgeleid.w- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-afgeleid.w-</a> en <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-afleid-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-afleid- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-afleid-</a> word nie?</li> <li>Ook punteneurig, maar kan ===<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Open_book_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/35px-Open_book_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/53px-Open_book_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/70px-Open_book_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="360"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/telwoord" title="telwoord">Telwoord</a>=== nie maar <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-telw-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-telw- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-telw-</a> word nie? Dit volg dan nie net die patroon van die ander gevalle nie (bv. ===<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Open_book_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/30px-Open_book_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/45px-Open_book_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/60px-Open_book_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="360"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/voegwoord" title="voegwoord">Voegwoord</a>===, ens.), maar ook die amptelike afkorting vir dié woordsoort. Insgelyks sou 'n mens kon oorweeg om <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-werkw-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-werkw- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-werkw-</a> te vervang met die goed gevestigde afkorting "ww." – dus iets soos <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-ww-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-ww- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-ww-</a>.</li> <li>Konseptueel hoort <b>!-- Afleiding --</b> vir my nie waar hy tans staan nie, maar eerder nader aan <b>!-- Woordsoort --</b>, en eintlik liefs naby iets soos <b>!-- Etimologie --</b>.</li> <li>Sou <b>!-- Etimologie --</b> in alle sjablone bygevoeg kon word?</li> <li>Onder <b>!-- Afleiding --</b> kan die gedeelte <b>:Van ... afgelei.</b> eerder wees: <b>Afgelei van <a href="/w/index.php?title=...&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="... (bladsy bestaan nie)">...</a></b>. Sowieso moet die ellipsstippels m.i. tussen dubbele blokhakies wees.</li></ol> <p><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"><span id="ooui-php-104" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T06:40:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"></span>'n Gedeelte van die antwoorde op jou vrae vind jy as jy die 'wysig'-knoppie druk en kyk onder die bewerkingsvlak. Links sien jy 'n drop down wat 'Wiktionary' sê. Regs daarvan sien jy heelparty sjablone wat die huidige formaat weergee in hulle juiste volgorde. Ons (eintlik: ek, want ons het stilgestaan) gebruik ook liewer sinoniem en antoniem. Die sjabloon vir werkwoord heet {{-ww.-}}. 'n Sjabloon {{-afgelyd.w-}} bestaan glad nie. Die sjabloon {{afgeleid}} stel mens is staat om woorde te wys wat afgeleides is van die lemmawoord en hou min met die woordsoort en glad niks met die lemmawoord se etimologie verband nie. Ja, jy sou {{-telwd-}} kan verander in {{-telw-}} maar vergeet nie dat dit baie werk oplewer nie wat van jou sal moet kom. Dieselfde geld vir etimologie. Etimologieë kan nie altyd terggevind word nie en lewer baie werk op. Dubbele blokhakies skep 'n wikiskakel en kan dus nie rond ellipsstippels gebruik word nie.</dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"><span id="ooui-php-105" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z-Wysigings_aan_sjablone?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:50:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Ek het my boodskap baseer op die inligting wat hier beskikbaar is: <a class="external free" href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Sjabloon/Afrikaans">https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Sjabloon/Afrikaans</a>. Daar word byvoorbeeld verwys na <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-werkw-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-werkw- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-werkw-</a>, ==== <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/25px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/38px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg/50px-Nuvola_kdict_glass.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/afleiding" title="afleiding">Afleiding</a> ====, en so meer. Ek sien dan wel onderaan die bladsy (soos jy aangedui het) ===<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Open_book_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/35px-Open_book_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/53px-Open_book_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/70px-Open_book_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="360"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/werkwoord" title="werkwoord">Werkwoord</a>===, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-antonieme-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-antonieme- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-antonieme-</a>, ens. Dit lyk dus asof die teks by die skakel hier bo nie korreleer met die werklikheid nie. Dit is nogal vir nuwelinge soos ek erg verwarrend. Kan ons dus die bladsy bywerk, sonder dat iemand te kwaad gaan wees? Ek is net nogal bang, juis omdat ek 'n nuweling is hier.</dd> <dd>Kan iets soos ===<span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/L%C3%AAer:Open_book_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/35px-Open_book_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="35" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/53px-Open_book_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Open_book_01.svg/70px-Open_book_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="360"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/telwoord" title="telwoord">Telwoord</a>=== nie deur 'n robot verander word na <a href="/w/index.php?title=Sjabloon:-telw.-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sjabloon:-telw.- (bladsy bestaan nie)">Sjabloon:-telw.-</a> nie? Waar dien 'n mens sulke versoeke in? <dl><dd>Die beste kan jy dit <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">hier</a> indien. <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Jcwf" title="Gebruiker:Jcwf">Jcwf</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Jcwf">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:50:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:50:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-106" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcwf-2019-07-28T15:50:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:56:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Wat ek ook bedoel het met <a href="/w/index.php?title=...&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="... (bladsy bestaan nie)">...</a> is dat daar op bogenoemde bladsy gebruikgemaak word van <a href="/w/index.php?title=...&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="... (bladsy bestaan nie)">...</a> om te illustreer dat die ellipsstipels met die woord vervang moet word. Dis nou as ek dit reg verstaan ... <a href="/wiki/Gebruiker:Geebee100" title="Gebruiker:Geebee100">Geebee100</a> (<a href="/wiki/Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100" title="Gebruikerbespreking:Geebee100">kontak</a>) <a href="https://af.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Geselshoekie#c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:56:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 28 Julie 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:56:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-107" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Beantwoord","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Beantwoord</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geebee100-2019-07-28T14:56:00.000Z-Jcwf-2019-07-28T10:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Ontsluit van "<a dir="ltr" href="https://af.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&oldid=207103">https://af.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Geselshoekie&oldid=207103</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Spesiaal:Kategorie%C3%AB" title="Spesiaal:Kategorieë">Kategorie</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Kategorie:Wikiwoordeboek" title="Kategorie:Wikiwoordeboek">Wikiwoordeboek</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Versteekte kategorie: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Kategorie:Onge%C3%AFndekseerde_bladsye" title="Kategorie:Ongeïndekseerde bladsye">Ongeïndekseerde bladsye</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Die bladsy is laas op 29 Julie 2019 om 06:12 bygewerk.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Die teks is beskikbaar onder die lisensie <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Erkenning-Insgelyks Deel</a>. 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