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border-bottom: 1px dotted #aaa; font-size:.9em"> <p><span class="anchor" id="DYKN"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Did you know</span> </p> <ul><li>19 Nov 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Anarchism_without_adjectives" title="Anarchism without adjectives">Anarchism without adjectives</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Anarchism_without_adjectives" title="Talk:Anarchism without adjectives">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anarchism_without_adjectives&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anarchism_without_adjectives&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> was nominated for DYK by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; see <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Anarchism_without_adjectives" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Anarchism without adjectives">discussion</a></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="AfD"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Articles for deletion</span> </p> <ul><li>13 Dec 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Postcolonial_anarchism" title="Postcolonial anarchism">Postcolonial anarchism</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Postcolonial_anarchism" title="Talk:Postcolonial anarchism">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Postcolonial_anarchism&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Postcolonial_anarchism&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> was AfDed by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Postcolonial_anarchism" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Postcolonial anarchism">discussion</a> <small>(<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1038841319">.mw-parser-output .tooltip-dotted{border-bottom:1px dotted;cursor:help}</style><span class="rt-commentedText tooltip tooltip-dotted" title="del: 1, keep: 0, merge: 2"><b>4</b> participants</span>)</small></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="GAN"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Good article nominees</span> </p> <ul><li>09 Dec 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Liceu_bombing" title="Liceu bombing">Liceu bombing</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Liceu_bombing" title="Talk:Liceu bombing">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liceu_bombing&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liceu_bombing&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> was GA nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; start <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Liceu_bombing/GA1&action=edit&preload=Template:GAN/preload&editintro=Template:GAN/editintro">discussion</a></li> <li>04 Dec 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Los_Solidarios" title="Los Solidarios">Los Solidarios</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Los_Solidarios" title="Talk:Los Solidarios">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Los_Solidarios&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Los_Solidarios&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> was GA nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; start <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Los_Solidarios/GA1&action=edit&preload=Template:GAN/preload&editintro=Template:GAN/editintro">discussion</a></li> <li>28 Nov 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Alt_Llobregat_insurrection" title="Alt Llobregat insurrection">Alt Llobregat insurrection</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Alt_Llobregat_insurrection" title="Talk:Alt Llobregat insurrection">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alt_Llobregat_insurrection&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alt_Llobregat_insurrection&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> was GA nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; start <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alt_Llobregat_insurrection/GA1&action=edit&preload=Template:GAN/preload&editintro=Template:GAN/editintro">discussion</a></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="PR"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Peer reviews</span> </p> <ul><li>26 Oct 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Lucy_Parsons" title="Lucy Parsons">Lucy Parsons</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:Lucy_Parsons" title="Talk:Lucy Parsons">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lucy_Parsons&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lucy_Parsons&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> has been put up for PR by <a href="/wiki/User:Mujinga" title="User:Mujinga">Mujinga</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mujinga" title="User talk:Mujinga">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mujinga" title="Special:Contributions/Mujinga">c</a>)</small>; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Lucy_Parsons/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Lucy Parsons/archive1">discussion</a></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="RM"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Requested moves</span> </p> <ul><li>05 Dec 2024 – <a href="/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests" title="1999 Seattle WTO protests">1999 Seattle WTO protests</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Talk:1999_Seattle_WTO_protests" title="Talk:1999 Seattle WTO protests">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1999_Seattle_WTO_protests&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1999_Seattle_WTO_protests&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> is requested to be moved to <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Seattle" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Seattle">Battle of Seattle</a> by <a href="/wiki/User:Grnrchst" title="User:Grnrchst">Grnrchst</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grnrchst" title="User talk:Grnrchst">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grnrchst" title="Special:Contributions/Grnrchst">c</a>)</small>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:1999_Seattle_WTO_protests#Requested_move_5_December_2024" title="Talk:1999 Seattle WTO protests">discussion</a></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="AFC"></span><span style="font-weight: bold">Articles for creation</span> </p> <ul><li>13 Dec 2024 – <a href="/wiki/Draft:Jos%C3%A9_de_Molina" title="Draft:José de Molina">Draft:José de Molina</a> <span class="plainlinks"><small>(<a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Jos%C3%A9_de_Molina" title="Draft talk:José de Molina">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Jos%C3%A9_de_Molina&action=edit">edit</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Jos%C3%A9_de_Molina&action=history">hist</a>)</small></span> has been submitted for AfC by <a href="/wiki/User:MexicanSoda" title="User:MexicanSoda">MexicanSoda</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MexicanSoda" title="User talk:MexicanSoda">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MexicanSoda" title="Special:Contributions/MexicanSoda">c</a>)</small></li></ul> <p><span class="anchor" id="AAend"></span> </p> </td></tr> <tr style="vertical-align:top;font-size: 85%;"> <td colspan="3" style="text-align: center;"> <p><a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/bambots/cwb/bycat/Anarchism.html" class="extiw" title="toollabs:bambots/cwb/bycat/Anarchism.html">Cleanup</a> (0) · <a href="/wiki/User:AlexNewArtBot/AnarchismSearchResult" title="User:AlexNewArtBot/AnarchismSearchResult">Potentially related articles</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anarchism" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Anarchism">Recent edits</a> · <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Czar/Anarchism" class="extiw" title="commons:User:Czar/Anarchism">Recent Commons images</a> · <a href="/wiki/Category:Anarchism_stubs" title="Category:Anarchism stubs">Stub expansion project</a> (514) </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"],"text":"Edit needed","linkableTitle":"Edit needed"}--><h2 id="Edit_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z"></span>Edit needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Edit needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed","timestamp":"2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Edit_needed-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"],"text":"Edit needed","linkableTitle":"Edit needed"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-"alyosha"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"></span>"The Adhocracy is clearly positioned in an environment that is both dynamic and compex, by Henry Mintzberg" does not make sense and is not a sentence. Thx, <a href="/wiki/User:%22alyosha%22" title="User:"alyosha"">"alyosha"</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-"alyosha"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-"alyosha"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z","author":"\"alyosha\"","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\"alyosha\"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-"alyosha"-2005-12-25T06:39:00.000Z-Edit_needed"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"],"text":"Merge?","linkableTitle":"Merge?"}--><h2 id="Merge?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"><span id="Merge.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"></span>Merge?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Merge?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","timestamp":"2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Merge?-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"],"text":"Merge?","linkableTitle":"Merge?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"></span>Re: suggestion to merge to "libertarian management", I don't think this concept has anything especially to do with libertarianism, so that's not an appropriate merge. Maybe some other merge destination makes sense, or a bigger article could be constructed around this and several related concepts. <a href="/wiki/User:Phr" title="User:Phr">Phr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phr" title="User talk:Phr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Phr","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?","replies":["c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z-Merge?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"></span>I also don't agree with merging, this is an interesting topic and one that I think could have an entire article. Just because it's not fleshed out now doesn't mean it will never be. - <b><a href="/wiki/User:Cohesion" title="User:Cohesion">cohesion</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:26, 27 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z","author":"Cohesion","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cohesion-2006-08-27T05:26:00.000Z-Phr-2006-08-02T14:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"],"text":"current wikipedia structure?","linkableTitle":"current wikipedia structure?"}--><h2 id="current_wikipedia_structure?" data-mw-thread-id="h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span id="current_wikipedia_structure.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>current wikipedia structure?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: current wikipedia structure?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z","timestamp":"2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-current_wikipedia_structure?-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"],"text":"current wikipedia structure?","linkableTitle":"current wikipedia structure?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"></span>Removed this line: <i>"To some degree, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a>'s management structure is an example of an adhocracy."</i>, as possible original research, as well as self reference. Can we back this statement up? <a href="/wiki/User:Kim_Bruning" title="User:Kim Bruning">Kim Bruning</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","author":"Kim Bruning","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?","replies":["c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z-current_wikipedia_structure?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Projects" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Projects"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia:Projects</a> at least would fulfill it. People join, established some structures (guidelines, task lists, votes), work and then leave or stay as it pleases them. --<a href="/wiki/User:Error" title="User:Error">Error</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Error","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Error-2006-09-04T23:17:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Such a statement makes me wonder where original research ends and common sense begins. <a href="/wiki/User:Forzan" title="User:Forzan">Forzan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Forzan" title="User talk:Forzan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z","author":"Forzan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z-Kim_Bruning-2006-09-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z"></span>Well, actually we can back it up: Spek et al. 2006 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/cs.DL/0611068">[1]</a>). There will be a better ref once I publish a paper on that in a few months, but yes - wiki is certainly very close to adhocracy.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2008-04-30T16:52:00.000Z-Forzan-2008-04-30T09:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"],"text":"What about the downsides of adhocracies?","linkableTitle":"What about the downsides of adhocracies?"}--><h2 id="What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z"><span id="What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z"></span>What about the downsides of adhocracies?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: What about the downsides of adhocracies?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","timestamp":"2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"],"text":"What about the downsides of adhocracies?","linkableTitle":"What about the downsides of adhocracies?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"></span>Chaos, corruption, lack of fairness, arbitraryness, etc etc? I expect the Mafia and Somali pirates must be examples of adhocracy. These issues ought to be included in the article - currently it is one-sided. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.13.54.183" title="Special:Contributions/84.13.54.183">84.13.54.183</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:84.13.54.183&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:84.13.54.183 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z","author":"84.13.54.183","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-84.13.54.183-2009-05-09T10:52:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"></span>Gee, I'm pretty sure that the Mafia and possibly also Somali pirates have a clearly defined hierarchy, which makes them by definition not adhocracies. But if you want to find something about the downsides, just make sure you cite your source. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/130.65.11.101" title="Special:Contributions/130.65.11.101">130.65.11.101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:130.65.11.101" title="User talk:130.65.11.101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z","author":"130.65.11.101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-130.65.11.101-2010-03-25T21:41:00.000Z-What_about_the_downsides_of_adhocracies?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"],"text":"downside example","linkableTitle":"downside example"}--><h2 id="downside_example" data-mw-thread-id="h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z"></span>downside example<span data-mw-comment-end="h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: downside example"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example","timestamp":"2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-downside_example-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"],"text":"downside example","linkableTitle":"downside example"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"></span>Personal experience indicates that small teams of highly skilled IT professionals following this model of loose organization will often fail to produce high quality output. The teams suffer from most of the above downsides (chaos, lack of fairness, arbitraryness). I believe that it is due to members personal responsibility. Ad-hoc organization does not enforce responsibility as strictly, so laziness, overconfidence and egotism are harder to control. I guess what I am saying is that I think that without an overseer, the less palatable parts of a job will be overlooked and chaos and low quality will ensue. (based on experience working in modern s/w development with various s/w development methods). <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.152.204.40" title="Special:Contributions/86.152.204.40">86.152.204.40</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:86.152.204.40&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:86.152.204.40 (page does not exist)">dn</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z","author":"86.152.204.40","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.152.204.40-2009-06-08T14:31:00.000Z-downside_example"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"],"text":"wrong origin?","linkableTitle":"wrong origin?"}--><h2 id="wrong_origin?" data-mw-thread-id="h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"><span id="wrong_origin.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"></span>wrong origin?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: wrong origin?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z","timestamp":"2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-wrong_origin?-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"],"text":"wrong origin?","linkableTitle":"wrong origin?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"></span>According to Gareth Morgan (Images of Organization, Sage Publication, Updated Edition 2006 - p50) the origin of the term is Warren Bennis. This is supported at this web-page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.mariosalexandrou.com/business-management/adhocracy.asp">http://www.mariosalexandrou.com/business-management/adhocracy.asp</a>, 3rd paragraph: The idea first surfaced in the work of US leadership theorist Warren G. Bennis. Writing about the company of the future in The Temporary Society (with Philip Slater in 1968), he predicted that it would rely on nimble and flexible project teams within a structure he called 'adhocracy'. The Latin phrase ad hoc means 'for this particular purpose only', though today it also conveys a sense of improvisation. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Erlingjossang&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Erlingjossang (page does not exist)">Erlingjossang</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Erlingjossang&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Erlingjossang (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Erlingjossang" title="Special:Contributions/Erlingjossang">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 26 June 2010 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","author":"Erlingjossang","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?","replies":["c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z-wrong_origin?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"></span>Agreed. Why is he not mentioned in the main article? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.190.253.2" title="Special:Contributions/70.190.253.2">70.190.253.2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:70.190.253.2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:70.190.253.2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z","author":"70.190.253.2","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z-Erlingjossang-2010-06-26T12:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z"></span>I made the edit/change to this. There is clearly documented evidence that Bennis coined the term before Tofler. Even <a href="/wiki/Henry_Mintzberg" title="Henry Mintzberg">Henry Mintzberg</a> credits Bennis as the originator: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2393104?uid=3739552&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104689454923">http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2393104?uid=3739552&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104689454923</a> (Administrative Science Quarterly, Vol. 30, No. 2 (Jun., 1985), pp. 160)<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.190.253.2" title="Special:Contributions/70.190.253.2">70.190.253.2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:70.190.253.2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:70.190.253.2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z","author":"70.190.253.2","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:43:00.000Z-70.190.253.2-2014-09-15T03:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"],"text":"Referenced COI","linkableTitle":"Referenced COI"}--><h2 id="Referenced_COI" data-mw-thread-id="h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Referenced COI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Referenced COI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Jutta-2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Referenced_COI-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"],"text":"Referenced COI","linkableTitle":"Referenced COI"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"></span>I am inclinded to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adhocracy&curid=159856&diff=403398340&oldid=384284098">revert this</a> due to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> AND the new addition being not very notable, but there are possibly third party references used. Second opinion? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI","replies":["c-Jutta-2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z-Referenced_COI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jutta-2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"></span>I agree. Both of the cited publications are written by someone with the same name as the account who is referencing them.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jutta" title="User:Jutta">Jutta</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jutta" title="User talk:Jutta">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-Jutta-2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jutta-2011-11-22T18:05:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-12-20T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="h-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z"><span id="job_specialization_based_on_formal_training.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z"></span>job specialization based on formal training?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Adhocracy&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: job specialization based on formal training?"><span>edit</span></a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-YodaWhat-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-YodaWhat-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?"],"text":"job specialization based on formal training?","linkableTitle":"job specialization based on formal training?"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-YodaWhat-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?"></span>Under "Characteristics of an adhocracy" are numerous characteristic traits, but the 3rd one jumped out at me as characteristic of Bureaucracy rather than of Adhocracy: </p> <ul><li>highly organic structure[3]</li> <li>little formalization of behavior[1][3]</li> <li>job specialization based on formal training</li></ul> <p>So I have changed it to </p> <pre> job specialization not necessarily based on formal training </pre> <p>If someone can provide good reference(s) to the contrary, the point should still be clarified. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:YodaWhat" title="User:YodaWhat">YodaWhat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:YodaWhat" title="User talk:YodaWhat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adhocracy#c-YodaWhat-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-YodaWhat-2012-09-07T16:37:00.000Z-job_specialization_based_on_formal_training?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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