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Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. <p><b>Discussions: </b> </p> <ul><li>RM, Majorca → Mallorca, <b>moved</b>, 16 May 2017, <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/843913746#Requested_move_16_May_2018" title="Special:PermanentLink/843913746">discussion</a></li> <li>RM, Mallorca → Majorca, <b>not moved</b>, 29 August 2021, <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1041669116#Requested_move_29_August_2021" title="Special:PermanentLink/1041669116">discussion</a></li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p><p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;,&quot;c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;,&quot;c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move 16 May 2018&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move 16 May 2018&quot;}--><h2 id="Requested_move_16_May_2018" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 16 May 2018<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mallorca&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Requested move 16 May 2018"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018","c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018","c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z","timestamp":"2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__18__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__15__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_16_May_2018-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;,&quot;c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;,&quot;c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move 16 May 2018&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move 16 May 2018&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>MOVED</b> Supporters overall argued that the English-language sources were split, and so to go with consistency with Menorca. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">non-admin closure</a>)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Galobtter" title="User:Galobtter">Galobtter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter" title="User talk:Galobtter">pingó mió</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z","author":"Galobtter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Galobtter-2018-06-01T10:00:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span> </p> <hr/> <a href="/wiki/Majorca" class="mw-redirect" title="Majorca"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span>Majorca</a> → <a href="/wiki/Mallorca" title="Mallorca">Mallorca</a> – Mostly to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRITERIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRITERIA">consistent</a> with <a href="/wiki/Menorca" title="Menorca">Menorca</a>. I'm surprised no one requested this move given the tons of ink spilled at Minorca/Menorca, but the rationale is as strong here as it was there (i.e., not super strong, but arguable). Here are some 21st-century comparisons for "Majorca is" vs. "Mallorca is":<p>Google Books since 2001:</p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22majorca+is%22&amp;tbm=bks&amp;source=lnt&amp;tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2000,cd_max:2099&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwjrwfCBnInbAhUwq1kKHa4FD-IQpwUIIQ&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=662&amp;dpr=1">Majorca - 952</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&amp;bih=662&amp;tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2000%2Ccd_max%3A2099&amp;tbm=bks&amp;ei=lZ37WpObCsGc5wKjx7_oDg&amp;q=%22mallorca+is%22&amp;oq=%22mallorca+is%22&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.3...8052.8673.0.9741.3.3.0.0.0.0.86.234.3.3.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.fTBfv-_ncIc">Mallorca - 768</a></p><p>Google Scholar since 2010:</p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C21&amp;as_ylo=2010&amp;q=%22majorca+is%22&amp;btnG=">Majorca - 229</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22mallorca+is%22&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C21&amp;as_ylo=2010&amp;as_yhi=">Mallorca - 629</a></p><p>Google News since 2010:</p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22majorca+is%22&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=662&amp;source=lnt&amp;tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A&amp;tbm=nws">Majorca - 2,700</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&amp;bih=662&amp;tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2010&amp;tbm=nws&amp;ei=8537Wu9v0OvmAsaGpugF&amp;q=%22mallorca+is%22&amp;oq=%22mallorca+is%22&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.3...6335.6902.0.7380.3.3.0.0.0.0.83.229.3.3.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.IEh7Bpjctm4">Mallorca - 2,320</a></p><p>An ngram through 2008 is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Majorca+is%2CMallorca+is&amp;year_start=1980&amp;year_end=2018&amp;corpus=15&amp;smoothing=3&amp;share=&amp;direct_url=t1%3B%2CMajorca%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CMallorca%20is%3B%2Cc0">largely inconclusive</a>.</p><p>Sources are super split. To be honest, I probably wouldn't support this move if presented on its own. Given last year's move of Menorca, however, I find that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRITERIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRITERIA">consistency</a>, though the lowliest of title considerations, is nonetheless enough of a reason to make this move. <a href="/wiki/User:Dohn_joe" title="User:Dohn joe">Dohn joe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dohn_joe" title="User talk:Dohn joe">talk</a>) 03:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC) <small>--<i><b>Relisting.</b></i> <b style="font-family:Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"><span style="color:#18a">Anarchyte</span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anarchyte" title="Special:Contributions/Anarchyte"><span style="color:#0d5fad">work</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anarchyte" title="User talk:Anarchyte"><span style="color:#0d5fad">talk</span></a>)</small></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","author":"Dohn joe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018","replies":["c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Weak support</b> per nom, I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_such_user-2018-05-21T11:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. Move <a href="/wiki/Menorca" title="Menorca">Menorca</a> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UE">WP:UE</a> instead. — <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AjaxSmack" title="User talk:AjaxSmack"><span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> <b>AjaxSmack</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 22 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z","author":"AjaxSmack","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>That would be fine, except for the successful RM over there. The point here is consistency. Whatever rationale holds for one holds for the other. I'd be happy to put this RM on hold if you want to try to reverse last year's decision. If not, though, let's match 'em up. <a href="/wiki/User:Dohn_joe" title="User:Dohn joe">Dohn joe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dohn_joe" title="User talk:Dohn joe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z","author":"Dohn joe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T01:02:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2018-05-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per nominator and per <a href="/wiki/Menorca" title="Menorca">Menorca</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Iiii_I_I_I" title="User:Iiii I I I">Iiii I I I</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iiii_I_I_I" title="User talk:Iiii I I I">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z","author":"Iiii I I I","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iiii_I_I_I-2018-05-23T05:19:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> Agree that what matters most here is consistency with <a href="/wiki/Menorca" title="Menorca">Menorca</a> (even if I personally use the term Minorca)...--<a href="/wiki/User:Yaksar" title="User:Yaksar">Yaksar</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yaksar" title="User talk:Yaksar">(let's chat)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z","author":"Yaksar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaksar-2018-05-23T17:34:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. What matters here is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a>. From the above evidence, it appears that unlike the Menorca situation, the Spanish and Catalan version "Mallorca" hasn't become more common in the sources.--<a href="/wiki/User:Cuchullain" title="User:Cuchullain">Cúchullain</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cuchullain" title="User talk:Cuchullain"><sup>t</sup></a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cuchullain" title="Special:Contributions/Cuchullain"><small>c</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Cuchullain","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"C\u00fachullain"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z"></span>It's actually almost identical. Some sets of sources prefer one, some the other. I'd be happy to recreate the results for Menorca/Minorca here, if you'd like. <a href="/wiki/User:Dohn_joe" title="User:Dohn joe">Dohn joe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dohn_joe" title="User talk:Dohn joe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Dohn joe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dohn_joe-2018-05-23T22:00:00.000Z-Cuchullain-2018-05-23T20:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Lean toward <b>support</b>, but it's not a big deal for me. <a href="/wiki/User:Tony1" title="User:Tony1"><b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tony1" title="User talk:Tony1"><span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Tony"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tony1-2018-05-24T05:58:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> BBC has been "Mallorca" for years but UK newspapers are still split <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.theguardian.com/travel/mallorca">https://www.theguardian.com/travel/mallorca</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/essential-mallorca-n8mrf5nhd">https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/essential-mallorca-n8mrf5nhd</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/where/mallorca/">https://www.thesun.co.uk/where/mallorca/</a> follow the name used on departure boards at Gatwick and Luton, but The Telegraph and The Mirror are still sticking with the British colonial name. It's pretty clear the way the wind has blown though. Most UK people know the place from what is printed on their holiday tickets. <a href="/wiki/User:In_ictu_oculi" title="User:In ictu oculi">In ictu oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:In_ictu_oculi" title="User talk:In ictu oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 24 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z","author":"In ictu oculi","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-24T08:38:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CONSISTENCY" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:CONSISTENCY">WP:CONSISTENCY</a>, with the other potential determiners being inconclusive. Another consideration is that of beyond-the-UK. Over here in Yankeeland, we're plenty familiar with Spanish and that language's <i>ll</i> for <i>y</i> (as in <i>tortilla</i>), so we generally use <i>Mallorca</i>. <i>Majorca</i> looks like an obsoletism, like calling China <i>Cathay</i>. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — <a href="/wiki/User:SMcCandlish" title="User:SMcCandlish"><b>SMcCandlish</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SMcCandlish" title="User talk:SMcCandlish">☏</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish" title="Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish">¢</a> 😼 </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 24 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z","author":"SMcCandlish","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SMcCandlish-2018-05-24T22:50:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Mallorca</b> (duouble L pronounces as "j" in Castellian Spanish) But the issue here is how it is spelled in English ? We use "Vienna" not "Wien", "Rome" not "Roma" , "Cologne" not "Köln", "Copenhagen" not "København". This is NOT taking side in the Spain vs Catalonia question, only the English (and in this case, the British English) spelling counts. <a href="/wiki/User:Boeing720" title="User:Boeing720">Boeing720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boeing720" title="User talk:Boeing720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z","author":"Boeing720","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/List_of_English_exonyms" class="mw-redirect" title="List of English exonyms"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z"></span>List of English exonyms</a> shows that most are defunct. The trend is always against them. <a href="/wiki/User:In_ictu_oculi" title="User:In ictu oculi">In ictu oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:In_ictu_oculi" title="User talk:In ictu oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 27 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z","author":"In ictu oculi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-In_ictu_oculi-2018-05-27T19:44:00.000Z-Boeing720-2018-05-26T07:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> per COMMONNAME, Reading up about it there seems to be a lot of confusion over where "Majorca" comes from but in others it states it's used in Spain as well here in the UK, Anyway oppose per CN and no objections to moving once sources start using the Malorca name. –<a href="/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color: blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color: orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color: navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davey2010-2018-05-29T18:59:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> for consistency, as sources do not indicate a strong preference. Feels like the switch from Bombay to <a href="/wiki/Mumbai" title="Mumbai">Mumbai</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:JFG" title="User:JFG">JFG</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JFG" title="User talk:JFG">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 31 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z","author":"JFG","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JFG-2018-05-31T11:35:00.000Z-Dohn_joe-2018-05-16T03:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <hr/> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <p>Now that it's been moved, the instances of <i>Majorca</i> within the article should be changed to <i>Mallorca</i> (except for the very first instance in the lead). --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.248.216.137" title="Special:Contributions/184.248.216.137">184.248.216.137</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:184.248.216.137&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:184.248.216.137 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 10 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z","author":"184.248.216.137","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018","replies":["c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z-Requested_move_16_May_2018"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z"></span>I broke off the 2 sentences in the lead to be the Etymology section, as the topic is not otherwise discussed in the main body if article. Given all the discussion above, perhaps some explanation of the two spellings could be added to Etymology. - - <a href="/wiki/User:Prairieplant" title="User:Prairieplant">Prairieplant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prairieplant" title="User talk:Prairieplant">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z","author":"Prairieplant","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prairieplant-2021-04-27T15:03:00.000Z-184.248.216.137-2018-10-10T21:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021&quot;,&quot;c-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move 29 August 2021&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move 29 August 2021&quot;}--><h2 id="Requested_move_29_August_2021" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Requested move 29 August 2021<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mallorca&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move 29 August 2021"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021","c-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021","timestamp":"2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__16__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__9__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Requested_move_29_August_2021-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021&quot;,&quot;c-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Requested move 29 August 2021&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Requested move 29 August 2021&quot;}--></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021"></span>The following is a closed discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. 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No further edits should be made to this discussion. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>not moved.</b> per discussion consensus, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES">WP:TITLECHANGES</a>. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Closure_by_a_page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">closed by non-admin page mover</a>)</small> — <a href="/wiki/User:Shibbolethink" title="User:Shibbolethink"><span style="color: black">Shibboleth</span><span style="color: maroon">ink</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shibbolethink" title="User talk:Shibbolethink">♔</a></sup> <sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink" title="Special:Contributions/Shibbolethink">♕</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z","author":"Shibbolethink","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shibbolethink-2021-09-07T23:38:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Mallorca" title="Mallorca"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021"></span>Mallorca</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Majorca&amp;redirect=no">Majorca</a></span> – Majorca is used by major English sources such as Britanica<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>, Trip Advisor<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>, Tui<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>3<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>, The Telegraph<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>4<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> and the BBC<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>5<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>. Besides the reason most commonly given to move the article to 'Mallorca' in the first place was 'consistency with Menorca'. This is irrelevant because: A) Wikipedia uses the most common name; whether or not it is consistent doesn’t always matter. </p> B) A lot of English sources Majorca <b>and</b> Menorca together such as the BBC article I have referenced. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output 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rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Tourism-g187462-Majorca_Balearic_Islands-Vacations.html#/media/187462/'355727267':p/?focusedIndex=0">https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Tourism-g187462-Majorca_Balearic_Islands-Vacations.html#/media/187462/'355727267':p/?focusedIndex=0</a> </span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/europe/spain/majorca/holidays-majorca.html?im_id=PPC&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw4KyJBhAbEiwAaAQbE8-qMo4NcWBkTISwVvopZ3zR3_WorpX4-8EfkEVOs-4ySGse3t7MZhoCngIQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds">https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/europe/spain/majorca/holidays-majorca.html?im_id=PPC&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw4KyJBhAbEiwAaAQbE8-qMo4NcWBkTISwVvopZ3zR3_WorpX4-8EfkEVOs-4ySGse3t7MZhoCngIQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds</a> </span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-4">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/spain/majorca/">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/spain/majorca/</a> </span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-5">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57839184">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57839184</a> </span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ale3353&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ale3353 (page does not exist)">Ale3353</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ale3353" title="User talk:Ale3353">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z-Requested_move_29_August_2021" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span 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id="c-Bait30-2021-08-30T02:55:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>: I was in the mood to make a table. From what I found, there's not really any preference towards either name. And actually, I found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mallorca-v-majorca-which-is-correct-q2sx38hwv5h">this article</a> in <i><a href="/wiki/The_Times" title="The Times">The Times</a></i> that suggests "Majorca" is the British spelling of the island whereas "Mallorca" is the rest-of-the-world spelling of the island. <a href="/wiki/User:Bait30" title="User:Bait30"><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b> Bait30 </b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bait30" title="User talk:Bait30"><sup><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b><i>Talk 2 me pls</i>?</b></span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Bait30-2021-08-30T02:55:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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href="/wiki/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times">The New York Times</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/search?dropmab=false&amp;query=%22mallorca%22%20spain&amp;sort=best">529</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/search?dropmab=false&amp;query=%22majorca%22%20spain&amp;sort=best">960</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Deutsche_Welle" title="Deutsche Welle">Deutsche Welle</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/search/en?searchNavigationId=9097&amp;languageCode=en&amp;origin=gN&amp;item=%22mallorca%22+spain">127</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/search/?languageCode=en&amp;item=%22majorca%22%20spain&amp;searchNavigationId=9097&amp;sort=DATE&amp;resultsCounter=10">34</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/Reuters" title="Reuters">Reuters</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/site-search/?query=%22mallorca%22+spain">1596</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/site-search/?query=%22majorca%22+spain&amp;offset=0">1576</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/CNN" title="CNN">CNN</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/search?q=%22mallorca%22+spain">146</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/search?size=10&amp;q=%22majorca%22%20spain">11</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/RT%C3%89" title="RTÉ">RTÉ</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rte.ie/search/query/%22mallorca%22%20spain/">261</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rte.ie/search/query/%22majorca%22%20spain">222</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/NPR" title="NPR">NPR</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/search?query=%22mallorca%22%20spain&amp;page=1">43</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/search?query=%22majorca%22%20spain&amp;page=1">21</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/The_Times" title="The Times">The Times</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/search?source=search-page&amp;q=%22mallorca%22+spain">1362</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thetimes.co.uk/search?source=search-page&amp;q=%22majorca%22+spain">1112</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal" title="The Wall Street Journal">The Wall Street Journal</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wsj.com/search?query=%22mallorca%22%20spain&amp;mod=searchresults_viewallresults">5</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wsj.com/search?query=%22majorca%22%20spain&amp;mod=searchresults_viewallresults">0</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/The_Age" title="The Age">The Age</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theage.com.au/search?text=%22mallorca%22+spain">200</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theage.com.au/search?text=%22majorca%22+spain">149</a> </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="/wiki/BBC" title="BBC">BBC</a> <small>by <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>)</small></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Mallorca+Spain&amp;page=11">~110</a></td> <td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Majorca+Spain&amp;page=7">~80</a> </td></tr></tbody></table></dd></dl> <ul><li><b>Oppose</b>. Moved here 3 years ago, cherry-picked sources in the nomination are unimpressive. Evidence presented by Bait30 as well as in the previous RM suggests that both names are in similar circulation, so the consistency argument pulls a significant weight. And <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLECHANGES">WP:TITLECHANGES</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T08:53:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T08:53:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-30T08:53:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T08:53:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T08:53:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Support</b> per <a href="/wiki/User:Bait30" title="User:Bait30">User:Bait30</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">User:No such user</a> <i>(sic)</i>. If usage is mixed, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UE">use English</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AjaxSmack" title="User talk:AjaxSmack"><span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> <b>AjaxSmack</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z","author":"AjaxSmack","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z","c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:AjaxSmack" title="User:AjaxSmack"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>AjaxSmack</a>, I'm confused by your statement. We said oppose, so I'm unsure how you can say support per my argument. <a href="/wiki/User:Bait30" title="User:Bait30"><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b> Bait30 </b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bait30" title="User talk:Bait30"><sup><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b><i>Talk 2 me pls</i>?</b></span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z","author":"Bait30","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z"></span>You presented evidence showing that there's "not really any preference towards either name". In that case, let's use English in line with policy. <small> — <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AjaxSmack" title="User talk:AjaxSmack"><span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> <b>AjaxSmack</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z","author":"AjaxSmack","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-Bait30-2021-08-30T20:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"></span>Where are you seeing that "Mallorca" isn't English? If anything, "Mallorca" better fulfills <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECOGNIZABILITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECOGNIZABILITY">WP:RECOGNIZABILITY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bait30" title="User:Bait30"><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b> Bait30 </b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bait30" title="User talk:Bait30"><sup><span style="color: #ffffff;background-color: #bf5700;"><b><i>Talk 2 me pls</i>?</b></span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z","author":"Bait30","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bait30-2021-08-31T13:47:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span>Last time I checked, BBC and New York Times were written in English. Or was it something awfully close resembling it? <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-30T16:50:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg/300px-Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg" decoding="async" width="300" height="307" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg/450px-Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6e/Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg/600px-Harper_Collins_Spanish_Concise_Dictionary_-_Majorca.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1026" data-file-height="1050"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Yes, and both of them use "Majorca" based on links given above. <small> — <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AjaxSmack" title="User talk:AjaxSmack"><span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> <b>AjaxSmack</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z","author":"AjaxSmack","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-30T20:18:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"></span>They use both, without apparent preference. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMallorca&amp;type=revision&amp;diff=1041569719&amp;oldid=1041538732">BBC added</a>. Are you saying that Medieval Latin "Majorca" is somehow more "English" than modern Spanish "Mallorca"? <a href="/wiki/User:No_such_user" class="mw-redirect" title="User:No such user">No such user</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_such_user" title="User talk:No such user">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z","author":"No such user","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T03:04:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z"></span>I don't know any medieval Latin, but my modern translation dictionary (which reads "Revised and Updated for the 21st Century") only gives "Majorca" for the modern English and <i>Mallorca</i> for the modern Spanish. See image over here. <small> — <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AjaxSmack" title="User talk:AjaxSmack"><span style="border:1px solid #93010b;background:#ef0000;padding:2px;color:#efe6e6;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em; font-family: Georgia;"> <b>AjaxSmack</b> </span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a></small> <big>→<span data-mw-comment-end="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z"></span></big><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z","author":"AjaxSmack","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-AjaxSmack-2021-08-31T16:26:00.000Z-No_such_user-2021-08-31T08:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red_Slash-2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b>. Cherry-pick sources all you want - no one denies that SOME people use the J - or just... aggregate all high-level uses at once. Oh look! <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Mallorca%2CMajorca&amp;year_start=1979&amp;year_end=2019&amp;corpus=26&amp;smoothing=3">Mallorca overtook Majorca thirty years ago.</a> This article has the right title. <a href="/wiki/User:Red_Slash" title="User:Red Slash"><span style="color:#FF4131;">Red</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red_Slash" title="User talk:Red Slash"><b><span style="color:#460121;">Slash</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Red_Slash-2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 30 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red_Slash-2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z","author":"Red Slash","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Red_Slash-2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Red"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red_Slash-2021-08-30T18:42:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davey2010-2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> - Support because the name sounds better and it's what everyone's used to calling it. Oppose because under Google News "Majorca" has 139,000 results<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Majorca%22&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=657&amp;tbm=nws&amp;sxsrf=AOaemvKXv8KJXPmDUPCK_6hqffwVc50O3g%3A1630418188346&amp;ei=DDUuYdXJFJS4gQbJlpfIAg&amp;oq=%22Majorca%22&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i512k1l3j0i512i433k1j0i512k1j0i10i67k1j0i512k1j0i512i433k1j0i512k1l2.1105.1705.0.1889.2.2.0.0.0.0.488.488.4-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.1.485....0.onNNsA87Gxo">[1]</a>, Mallorca has 28,500,000 <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mallorca%22&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=657&amp;tbm=nws&amp;sxsrf=AOaemvJoIA6HuR50r8n4Ao5Z4q0kliZc7A%3A1630418190984&amp;ei=DjUuYcDMO4_XgQbygZjIDA&amp;oq=%22Mallorca%22&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i433i131i67k1j0i433i67k1l2j0i512i433k1j0i512i433i131k1j0i512i433k1l2j0i512k1j0i512i433i131k1l2.2580.3067.0.3307.2.2.0.0.0.0.210.331.0j1j1.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.328....0.U9YpzfunUIA">[2]</a>. As much as I really want to there's no valid reason to support moving other than preference. –<a href="/wiki/User:Davey2010" title="User:Davey2010"><span style="color:blue;"><b>Davey</b></span><span style="color:orange;"><b>2010</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davey2010" title="User talk:Davey2010"><span style="color:navy;"><b>Talk</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Davey2010-2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davey2010-2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z","author":"Davey2010","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Davey2010-2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davey2010-2021-08-31T14:00:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blindlynx-2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>oppose</b> per Bait and No such user<a href="/wiki/User:Blindlynx" title="User:Blindlynx">—blindlynx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blindlynx" title="User talk:Blindlynx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Blindlynx-2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blindlynx-2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z","author":"Blindlynx","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Blindlynx-2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014blindlynx"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blindlynx-2021-08-31T19:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yaksar-2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> Both names are regularly used in English-language sources, but the current one appears to be more commonly used.--<a href="/wiki/User:Yaksar" title="User:Yaksar">Yaksar</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yaksar" title="User talk:Yaksar">(let's chat)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Yaksar-2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yaksar-2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z","author":"Yaksar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yaksar-2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yaksar-2021-08-31T20:07:00.000Z-Ale3353-2021-08-29T15:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: #FF0000;">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;"></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sca-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Tourism_stats-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sca-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z-Tourism_stats&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Tourism stats&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Tourism stats&quot;}--><h2 id="Tourism_stats" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tourism_stats-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tourism_stats-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z"></span>Tourism stats<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tourism_stats-2022-06-21T14:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mallorca&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240831124700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240831124700-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600\u2009years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;}--><h2 id="Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arrival_in_Mallorca,_Spain" data-mw-thread-id="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124700"><span id="Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arrival_in_Mallorca.2C_Spain"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124700"></span>Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mallorca&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain"><span>edit</span></a><span 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href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01584-4?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=commission_junction&amp;utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PBOK_ALWYS_DEEPLINK&amp;utm_content=textlink&amp;utm_term=PID100094349&amp;CJEVENT=eda7a1b4679611ef832cd10c0a18ba73">[3]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mallorca#c-Doug_Weller-20240831124700-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240831124700-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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