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My question is what Twinkle warning can or should I issue. I gave a Level 3 warning for Disruptive Editing, but I would have preferred to give something more specific. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>More generally, if I would like to propose that a new Twinkle warning be added, is this the place to make the suggestion, or should I make it somewhere else? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 18:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:Twinkle only exposes some of the standard warnings available - see [[Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace]] for more. Not sure if any more precise warning exists, but I think "Disruptive Editing" is very accurate if they remove an opposing !vote without a clear and valid reason. [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 18:54, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:I'd use one of the Uw-tvp* templates. "Refactoring other's talk page comments". Example: {{t|Uw-tpv3}}. I found it by going to TW -> Warn, then clicking on the dropdown box with all the user warnings. There's a spot to search. I typed "talk", and if that didn't work, I was going to try searching for "[[WP:TPO|tpo]]". –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 21:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::I saw "Refactoring other's talk page comments" and didn't know if striking the Keep was refactoring. Maybe I will use it next time, but maybe there won't be a next time, because I think that this is the first time I have seen that behavior, and it should be the last time.</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::They didn't remove an opposing !vote. They struck it. The principle is the same.</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::The editor deleted my warning, so they saw it and have been warned. Thank you. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 17:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::{{Closing without action}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== Where is warn entry? ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>I don't see the "warn" entry, how to fix? [[User:Susbush|Susbush]] ([[User talk:Susbush|talk]]) 17:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:@[[User:Susbush|Susbush]]. Are you on a user or user talk page? Do you see the TW menu? When you click that open do you see the "Warn" link? –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 23:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::I see the TW menu, but not the "Warn" link. [[User:Susbush|Susbush]] ([[User talk:Susbush|talk]]) 01:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::What URL are you at when you're looking at the TW menu? Warn will only show up if you're on a user page or user talk page, and if that page isn't your own. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 03:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::::Oh, so that's why it wasn't showing up. [[User:Susbush|Susbush]] ([[User talk:Susbush|talk]]) 11:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::::{{Closing without action}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== XFDCloser issue? ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>There's some potential cross-script issues between this and [[WP:XFDC]], if any of the technically-minded back-end programmers could check out [[Wikipedia_talk:XFDcloser#XFDcloser_creating_erroneous_edit_summaries_and_linking_to_Undefined_after_AfD/PROD_closures|this conversation]] at XFDC's talk page, we would much appreciate it. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 12:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:Replied there. Bug is not caused by Twinkle. – [[User:SD0001|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 18:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::{{Closing without action}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:13, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== Warning about citing Wikipedia ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>Am I right in thinking that Twinkle does not have a warning template for people who [[Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia|cite Wikipedia]]? If so, could one be added? Does such a template already exist? I have been unable to find one. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:I've been using [[:Template:Uw-circular]]. Hope this helps! [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 15:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::Thank you. That is for when a user {{Tq|1="cited the information you added to another Wikipedia article or an external wiki."}} - a small subset of the cases I describe. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::You might have better luck at [[Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace]]; Twinkle doesn't host (or create) warning templates, it just provides an easier way to post them. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 13:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::I may be being a bit thick here, but I guess I'm not seeing the distinction? Are you talking about citing Wikipedia outside the scope of Wikipedia itself? [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 15:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::::No, the confusion is mine; I misread the template. Apologies. I have changed the wording slightly to make it clearer. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 17:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::::{{Closing without action}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:13, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== Request: Last protection duration in dialogue box? ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2021}}</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>Is it possible, when bringing up the dialogue box to protect a page, to show the duration of the last protection? Like how when you're blocking someone, it shows how long the last block was for. <span style="color:DarkGray">...</span> [[User:discospinster|<span style="color:DarkOrange">'''disco'''</span><span style="color: #556B2F">'''''spinster'''''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<span style="color:DarkGray">talk</span>''']]</sub> 19:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:@[[User:Discospinster|Discospinster]]. When I went to test this, it shows this already. For example, go to [[WP:ANI]], then do TW -> PP. Under Tagging options, I see the red text {{tq|Current protection level: Move: sysop (indefinite) by ScottishFinnishRadish. Previous protections: protection log • pending changes log (expired 2019-02-24)}}. Got any pages where this isn't showing up that you'd like me to look into? –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:17, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::I'm thinking of articles that are not currently edit protected but have been in the past - for how long was the immediately previous protection? For example [[Ni Hao, Kai Lan]] shows that it's currently move protected, but I'm interested in the length of the last edit protection (in this case it was one year but in the Twinkle dialogue box I have to click on "protection log" to see that). <span style="color:DarkGray">...</span> [[User:discospinster|<span style="color:DarkOrange">'''disco'''</span><span style="color: #556B2F">'''''spinster'''''</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:discospinster|'''<span style="color:DarkGray">talk</span>''']]</sub> 17:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== Request: Inline parenthetical referencing ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2022}}</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>It would be nice if <nowiki>{{Inline parenthetical referencing}}</nowiki> were added. [[User:Snowman304|'''Snowman304''']]'''&#124;'''[[User talk:Snowman304|'''talk''']] 01:14, 6 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:@[[User:Snowman304|Snowman304]]. Are you aware of any other inline templates that Twinkle places? I don't think there are any. I don't think Twinkle has the ability to place anything inline, which would probably require the visual editor. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 12:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::{{ping|Novem Linguae}} [[Template:Inline parenthetical referencing]] is confusingly named. It's about parenthetical referencing that's inline, not an inline template for parenthetical referencing. It produces the same sort of box that, say, [[Template:Cleanup lang]] would. [[User:Snowman304|'''Snowman304''']]'''&#124;'''[[User talk:Snowman304|'''talk''']] 00:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:::Ah, got it. I've gone ahead and renamed the template to {{t|Parenthetical referencing}}, since "inline" and "section" both have very specific meaning in maintenance tag template names, and that is not what is going on here. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 08:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== CSD criteria for categories and another small issue ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/1994|resolved}}</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>The CSD criteria for categories should be changed to include the new criteria C4, instead of just showing C1 and two other general criteria. Would help a ton when doing technical CSDs for categories. (I know you can add your own stuff but it always doesn't work for me.) The criteria is also brand new so I don't blame you for not seeing it. I also had a bit of an issue when I was opening up a CFD using Twinkle, it had subst: it but it only pasted in the whole template and not the actual subst: here is the [[Special:Diff/1251423383|diff]] but was fixed by Pppery in the next edit. <span style="font-family:Arial;background-color:#fff;border:2px dashed#69c73e">[[User:Cowboygilbert|<span style="color:#3f6b39">'''Cowboygilbert'''</span>]] - [[User talk:Cowboygilbert|<span style="color:#d12667"> (talk) ♥</span>]]</span> 02:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:We have a ticket and a patch to add C4 already. Will see if I can expedite it.</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:Looks like the bad [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1251423383 diff] was caused by malformed wikicode syntax provided by the user. Changing [[[[ to [[ fixes the subst. Probably no need to fix this on the Twinkle side. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 07:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::I approved the CSD C4 patch and did a deploy just now. Should be all set. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 09:44, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>== [[Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing]] note in warnings ==</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>There is only one level for this, which might be a bit strong for new editors {{tq|Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing}}. Can we get a lighter level, similar to how there are multiple levels for vandalism? [[User:Bogazicili|Bogazicili]] ([[User talk:Bogazicili|talk]]) 14:57, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>:This isn't really a Twinkle issue because it involves the creation of new user warning (Uw) templates. [[Wikipedia talk:Template index/User talk namespace]] might be a better place to suggest this. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 19:41, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>::{{Closing without action}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 05:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-added"></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>== Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>== Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2032}}</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2032<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|resolved</ins>}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>When a user is given a noticeboard notification through the Talkback feature (I don't know about the other three), it somehow gets marked as minor ([[Special:Diff/1252810183|diff]]). This causes the user to not receive the notification associated with the edit (I know, because ClueBot marks my talk page archivings as minor and I don't get new message alerts on them). Since the point of these notifications is to make sure they are aware of the discussion (especially since ANI requires the user to be notified), these should not be marked as minor. [[User:Miraclepine|ミラP]]@[[User talk:Miraclepine#top|Miraclepine]] 02:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>When a user is given a noticeboard notification through the Talkback feature (I don't know about the other three), it somehow gets marked as minor ([[Special:Diff/1252810183|diff]]). This causes the user to not receive the notification associated with the edit (I know, because ClueBot marks my talk page archivings as minor and I don't get new message alerts on them). Since the point of these notifications is to make sure they are aware of the discussion (especially since ANI requires the user to be notified), these should not be marked as minor. [[User:Miraclepine|ミラP]]@[[User talk:Miraclepine#top|Miraclepine]] 02:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:Users will get a notification alright even if the edit is marked as minor. ClueBot doesn't trigger notifications because its edits are additionally marked as bot edits. – [[User:SD0001|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:Users will get a notification alright even if the edit is marked as minor. ClueBot doesn't trigger notifications because its edits are additionally marked as bot edits. – [[User:SD0001|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 123:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 52:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>== Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>== Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td> <td class="diff-deletedline diff-side-deleted"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2038}}</div></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2038<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|resolved</ins>}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>Hey. As someone who frequently welcomes new users, I sometimes have the occasion to use the many welcomeen templates, which basically says "Hi! Unfortunately, you're not fluent in English. Please edit another language Wikipedia. Thank you." I have had to add several welcomeen templates, and I propose that all be added to the default configuration. Please note that I've used all of them at least once.</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Hey. As someone who frequently welcomes new users, I sometimes have the occasion to use the many welcomeen templates, which basically says "Hi! Unfortunately, you're not fluent in English. Please edit another language Wikipedia. Thank you." I have had to add several welcomeen templates, and I propose that all be added to the default configuration. Please note that I've used all of them at least once.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>*{{tls|Welcomeen-ha}} (Hausa)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>*{{tls|Welcomeen-ha}} (Hausa)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 184:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 113:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>::Yeah [[User:TheWikipede|<span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TheWikipede|<span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;">''talk''</span>]]</sup> 17:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::Yeah [[User:TheWikipede|<span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TheWikipede|<span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;">''talk''</span>]]</sup> 17:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:::Likely because IPs are editors but are not accounts. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 20:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:::Likely because IPs are editors but are not accounts. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 20:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== Twinkle does not update selections when copy-pasting via right click ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2050}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Virtually what the title says. I discovered this as I got lazy when adding tags via twinkle.<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Steps:<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>1. Open the Twinkle gadget for tagging<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>2. Use the copy paste feature when right clicking to paste in a valid option (in my case, unreferenced)<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Expected result: Twinkle should update to show the unreferenced option.<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Actual result: Nothing updates and it stays on the screen from when it was opened.<br></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Cheers! [[User:Kline|Kline]] • [[User talk:Kline|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kline|contribs]] 18:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== Request for an RfPP preset that addresses specific pattern of disruptive editing ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>It would be nice to be able to select a page-protection preset designed to address MAB-style IP sockpuppetry on noticeboards where we want to avoid restricting new editors' access. Currently I've been applying 1-hour or 2-hour autoconfirmed or pending changes restrictions; I don't have strong opinions about what exact number is best but I can propose 2 hours pending changes as the preset in order to have a concrete suggestion to start with. The current sockpuppetry log statement is essentially fine, could be made more precise as {{tq|Persistent sockpuppetry of a high-traffic forum}}. <sub>signed, </sub>[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] <sup>[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]</sup> 22:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== Twinkle shows Teahouse is protected when it expired two minutes ago ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>At 23:45 November 19, 2024, I was going to remove the protection template from [[Wikipedia:TH|the teahouse]] when Twinkle says that it is protected. It actually expired two minutes ago (23:43 November 19). I think this is because my local time is "earlier" than UTC time (for example, if UTC is at 13:00, my local time is still before that), and Twinkle assumes my time zone is the same as UTC.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>[[File:Twinkle protection error.png|300px|thumb|I captured a screenshot of the error.]] [[User:Myrealnamm|<span style="color:#0085BD">My</span><span style="color:#ED7700">real</span><span style="color:#2A7E19">namm</span>]] <big>([[User talk:Myrealnamm|💬Let's talk]]</big> · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm|📜My work]])</small> 23:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{{Clear}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== Renaming fluff to rollback ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>{{Tracked in|https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/pull/2056}}</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Hello talk page watchers. I have a patch in the queue that, once merged, will rename "fluff" to "rollback". Fluff is the bespoke name for Twinkle's rollback module which provides [rollback] links on diff pages. Anyway, this also involves renaming the preference variables confirmOnFluff and confirmOnMobileFluff. Changing these preference names will make Twinkle forget those two particular preferences for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22confirmOnFluff%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns118=1&ns119=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&ns710=1&ns711=1&ns828=1&ns829=1 937 users] that are not using the default setting. If this patch is merged as is, those folks will have to go to their Twinkle preferences and turn those preferences back on manually.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Anyway, just wanted to check with the group first. Is this kind of collateral damage acceptable here? (A bunch of the 937 are probably inactive.) Or does it need to be mitigated somehow, with backwards compatibility code, an [[WP:AWB]] run to change them all, etc? I'm leaning towards it being acceptable, but happy to hear other thoughts. Thanks. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 09:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:{{Done}} –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:I'd personally lean towards doing an AWB run to rename the variables, because it's low-risk and a quick fix.<span id="Frostly:1732356091450:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNTwinkle" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Frostly|Frostly]] ([[User talk:Frostly|talk]]) 10:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</span></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>::SD0001 wrote a patch to provide reverse compatibility, so we'll just do that I think. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 17:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Latest revision as of 17:23, 23 November 2024</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1236090951">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none!important}}</style><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">"WT:TW" redirects here. 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Sections older than <b>30 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 10 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"></span>Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1227084136">.mw-parser-output .tracked{float:right;clear:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;width:12em;border:1px solid #72777d;border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked-closure{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}</style><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2032">Issue #2032</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"></span>When a user is given a noticeboard notification through the Talkback feature (I don't know about the other three), it somehow gets marked as minor (<a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1252810183" title="Special:Diff/1252810183">diff</a>). This causes the user to not receive the notification associated with the edit (I know, because ClueBot marks my talk page archivings as minor and I don't get new message alerts on them). Since the point of these notifications is to make sure they are aware of the discussion (especially since ANI requires the user to be notified), these should not be marked as minor. <a href="/wiki/User:Miraclepine" title="User:Miraclepine">ミラP</a>@<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Miraclepine#top" title="User talk:Miraclepine">Miraclepine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"></span>Users will get a notification alright even if the edit is marked as minor. ClueBot doesn't trigger notifications because its edits are additionally marked as bot edits. – <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"></span>No, minor edits on your user talk don't trigger alerts. <a href="/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"></span>From testing it on testwiki, looks like you're right. Is this some recent change? I've always remembered it working that way, and it's what the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/d4c4924948d6a48243001f74bd9ccb55803a760b/includes/Storage/DerivedPageDataUpdater.php#L1661">code says</a> as well – minor edits should suppress notifications only if the editor has <code>nominornewtalk</code> right, which per <a href="/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights" title="Special:ListGroupRights">Special:ListGroupRights</a> is only available to bots. – <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"></span>It's worked that way for as far back as I can remember. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/883819932" title="Special:Diff/883819932">Here</a>'s me telling an editor to mark their c/e edits on my talk page as minor in February 2019. <a href="/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"></span>Adding article functionality to <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome_cookie" title="Template:Welcome cookie">Template:Welcome cookie</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Adding article functionality to Template:Welcome cookie"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"></span>Hello, </p><p>Would it be possible to add article naming functionality to <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome_Cookie" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Welcome Cookie">Template:Welcome Cookie</a> in the same way as <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome" title="Template:Welcome">Template:Welcome</a>? This way, the template would say something to the effect of "I noticed your edits on <x article> and wanted to welcome you! Etc. Let me know if this has already been discussed! </p><p>Thanks! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"></span>Thanks for the idea. This page is mainly for changing the Twinkle gadget. Requests for coders to edit/improve templates might be a better fit for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RT">WP:RT</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a>. Hope that helps. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"></span>Thank you @<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a>, will follow up there.</dd> <dd>Have a great day!</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_declined.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="no" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/18px-Symbol_declined.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/27px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/36px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Closing without action</b> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_Dark_Mode" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"></span>Wikipedia Dark Mode<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Wikipedia Dark Mode"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/1979">Issue #1979</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"></span>Could we add support for the new wikipedia dark mode? <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User:TheWikipede">TheWikipede</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:TheWikipede">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"></span>Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2038">Issue #2038</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"></span>Hey. As someone who frequently welcomes new users, I sometimes have the occasion to use the many welcomeen templates, which basically says "Hi! Unfortunately, you're not fluent in English. Please edit another language Wikipedia. Thank you." I have had to add several welcomeen templates, and I propose that all be added to the default configuration. Please note that I've used all of them at least once. </p> <ul><li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ha" title="Template:Welcomeen-ha">subst:Welcomeen-ha</a>}} (Hausa)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-hi" title="Template:Welcomeen-hi">subst:Welcomeen-hi</a>}} (Hindi)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-id" title="Template:Welcomeen-id">subst:Welcomeen-id</a>}} (Indonesian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-it" title="Template:Welcomeen-it">subst:Welcomeen-it</a>}} (Italian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ms" title="Template:Welcomeen-ms">subst:Welcomeen-ms</a>}} (Malay)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-fa" title="Template:Welcomeen-fa">subst:Welcomeen-fa</a>}} (Persian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-th" title="Template:Welcomeen-th">subst:Welcomeen-th</a>}} (Thai)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ur" title="Template:Welcomeen-ur">subst:Welcomeen-ur</a>}} (Urdu)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-vi" title="Template:Welcomeen-vi">subst:Welcomeen-vi</a>}} (Vietnamese)</li></ul> <p>Now, I'm vaguely aware that other welcomeen templates exist. On principle, I'm not opposed to having all of them added to the default configuration of Twinkle. I'm just trying to prevent inertia by suggesting only the ones I've had occasion to use. <a href="/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Hoofprints)</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">(Neigh at me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CFD/S_merging" data-mw-thread-id="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"><span id="CFD.2FS_merging"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"></span>CFD/S merging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: CFD/S merging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2040">Issue #2040</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1255067356" title="Special:Diff/1255067356">Special:Diff/1255067356</a>, I expected it to put a merge tag ({{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfm-speedy" title="Template:Cfm-speedy">subst:cfm-speedy</a>}}), but it put a rename tag instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span>Misclick? Has it happened anywhere else? <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"></span>I don't see how it could have been a misclick – there's no "rename vs merge" option to incorrectly select, and it did go through as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2F" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2F">C2F</a> (as shown in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1255067358" title="Special:Diff/1255067358">Special:Diff/1255067358</a>). I think the issue is that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2">the speedy category criteria</a> are mostly for renaming, and Twinkle doesn't know that C2F is the exception – it's for speedy <i>merging</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">Jlwoodwa</a>. Can you confirm the steps you took? Was it TW -> XFD -> CfD/S -> C2D?</dd> <dd>When I did that on testwiki just now, it placed <code class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">{{subst:cfr-speedy|1=Trochilinae}}</code>. But you're saying it should instead place <code class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">{{subst:cfm-speedy|1=Trochilinae}}</code>? –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"></span>Almost – it was TW→XfD→CfD/S→C2<b>F</b>. Most of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2">the speedy category criteria</a> are used for renaming, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2F" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2F">WP:C2F</a> is for merging, so I think it should place <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfr-speedy" title="Template:Cfr-speedy">subst:cfr-speedy</a>}}</code> in most cases and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfm-speedy" title="Template:Cfm-speedy">subst:cfm-speedy</a>}}</code> only when C2F is used. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"></span>Request for a new warning to be added<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Request for a new warning to be added"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2034">Issue #2034</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"></span>Every once in a while I have to use the <a href="/wiki/Template:Uw-pronouns1" title="Template:Uw-pronouns1">Uw-pronouns</a> series of warnings, and it kind of bugs me that this isn't available for use with twinkle. I'm not quite sure if this is right place to suggest something like this, and if it isn't then I would greatly appreciated being pointed in the right direction. <span style="font-family: Arial; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">Gaismagorm</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">(talk)</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_closed?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"><span id="Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_closed.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"></span>Can we have a warning for renominating pages where the discussion was recently closed?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Can we have a warning for renominating pages where the discussion was recently closed?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2039">Issue #2039</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"></span>This would be very ideal as I am not always aware when using Twinkle whether a page has recently been nominated for deletion or not. I just made that same mistake again and I think this problem is avoidable. Something like this: </p> <ul><li><i>Warning: This page was was recently nominated for deletion and had its discussion closed. Please take caution before renominating again.</i></li></ul> <p>or something similar. <a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">Awesome</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">Aasim</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"></span>See also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2013">this issue</a> (related, but different), about giving a heads-up when undeleting a page that was previously undeleted.<span id="Frostly:1731280557498:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNTwinkle" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Frostly" title="User:Frostly">Frostly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frostly" title="User talk:Frostly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"></span>There's also this thing called "checking the talk page first" as that is the normal location for notifications of previous nominations. <a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">Just Step Sideways</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User talk:Just Step Sideways"><sup>from this world ..... today</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"></span>Advert and Promotional content templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Advert and Promotional content templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2035">Issue #2035</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"></span>Following a TfD, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Advert" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Advert">Advert</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Promotional_tone" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Promotional tone">Promotional tone</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> have been merged and moved to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Promotional" title="Template:Promotional">Promotional</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. Please update Twinkle accordingly. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');" data-mw-thread-id="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"><span id="mw.loader.load.28.27ext.gadget.TwinkleAr.27.29.3B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"></span>mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');<span data-mw-comment-end="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/220px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="156" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/330px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/440px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png 2x" data-file-width="942" data-file-height="667"/></a><figcaption>the options that i never get in arwiki</figcaption></figure> <p>Hi Every one, <br/> </p><p> I'm Ayoub from arwiki, sorry if i ask for help in the wrong place nd sorry for my english, As you may know arwiki use </p><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');</pre></div> <p>as <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A:Gadget-Twinkle.js">here</a> to load Twinkle, and it works very well, but in File namespace when i choice<b>Tw>Tag</b> its gives me nothing, but in articles pages it works, so I need help to fix that probleme, <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"></span>It might be better to get a technical person from your own wiki to look into this. Have you tried posting somewhere like <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9" class="extiw" title="ar:ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">ar:ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية</a> or <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B5%D8%B1" class="extiw" title="ar:نقاش ويكيبيديا:لمح البصر">ar:نقاش_ويكيبيديا:لمح_البصر</a>? –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a> Thank you for replay, I tried to share this issus with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Interface_administrators" title="Wikipedia:Interface administrators">Interface administrators</a> in <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%87%D8%A9#تحديث_لمح_البصر" class="extiw" title="ar:ويكيبيديا:إخطار إداريي الواجهة">Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard</a> there, but i don't get any information exept that Twinkle in arwiki is load from enwiki, that's why i open this topic here hoping find any help. — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a> thank you again, the issus is fixed. — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"></span>You're welcome. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_declined.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="no" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/18px-Symbol_declined.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/27px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/36px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Closing without action</b> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"><span id="Vandalism.2FPromotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"></span>Vandalism/Promotion Only Account greyed out<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Vandalism/Promotion Only Account greyed out"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span>Why is vandalism-only account and promotion-only account greyed out in the ARV menu? <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;"><i>talk</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"></span>Are you looking at an IP? <span class="nowrap vcard"><b><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:NightWolf1223" title="User:NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">NightWolf1223</span></a></span> <<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NightWolf1223" title="User talk:NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">Howl at me</span></a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223" title="Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">My hunts</span></a>></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"></span>Yeah <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;"><i>talk</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"></span>Likely because IPs are editors but are not accounts. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click" data-mw-thread-id="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"></span>Twinkle does not update selections when copy-pasting via right click<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Twinkle does not update selections when copy-pasting via right click"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2050">Issue #2050</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"></span>Virtually what the title says. I discovered this as I got lazy when adding tags via twinkle.<br/> Steps:<br/> 1. Open the Twinkle gadget for tagging<br/> 2. Use the copy paste feature when right clicking to paste in a valid option (in my case, unreferenced)<br/> Expected result: Twinkle should update to show the unreferenced option.<br/> Actual result: Nothing updates and it stays on the screen from when it was opened.<br/> Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Kline" title="User:Kline">Kline</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kline" title="User talk:Kline">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kline" title="Special:Contributions/Kline">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"></span>Request for an RfPP preset that addresses specific pattern of disruptive editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Request for an RfPP preset that addresses specific pattern of disruptive editing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"></span>It would be nice to be able to select a page-protection preset designed to address MAB-style IP sockpuppetry on noticeboards where we want to avoid restricting new editors' access. Currently I've been applying 1-hour or 2-hour autoconfirmed or pending changes restrictions; I don't have strong opinions about what exact number is best but I can propose 2 hours pending changes as the preset in order to have a concrete suggestion to start with. The current sockpuppetry log statement is essentially fine, could be made more precise as <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Persistent sockpuppetry of a high-traffic forum</q>. <sub>signed, </sub><a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill"><i><b>Rosguill</b></i></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill" title="User talk:Rosguill"><i>talk</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago" data-mw-thread-id="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"></span>Twinkle shows Teahouse is protected when it expired two minutes ago<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Twinkle shows Teahouse is protected when it expired two minutes ago"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"></span>At 23:45 November 19, 2024, I was going to remove the protection template from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TH">the teahouse</a> when Twinkle says that it is protected. It actually expired two minutes ago (23:43 November 19). I think this is because my local time is "earlier" than UTC time (for example, if UTC is at 13:00, my local time is still before that), and Twinkle assumes my time zone is the same as UTC. </p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Twinkle_protection_error.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/300px-Twinkle_protection_error.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="224" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/450px-Twinkle_protection_error.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/600px-Twinkle_protection_error.png 2x" data-file-width="1256" data-file-height="936"/></a><figcaption>I captured a screenshot of the error.</figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Myrealnamm" title="User:Myrealnamm"><span style="color:#0085BD">My</span><span style="color:#ED7700">real</span><span style="color:#2A7E19">namm</span></a> <big>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myrealnamm" title="User talk:Myrealnamm">💬Let's talk</a></big> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm" title="Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm">📜My work</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Renaming_fluff_to_rollback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"></span>Renaming fluff to rollback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Renaming fluff to rollback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/pull/2056">Issue #2056</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"></span>Hello talk page watchers. I have a patch in the queue that, once merged, will rename "fluff" to "rollback". Fluff is the bespoke name for Twinkle's rollback module which provides [rollback] links on diff pages. Anyway, this also involves renaming the preference variables confirmOnFluff and confirmOnMobileFluff. Changing these preference names will make Twinkle forget those two particular preferences for <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22confirmOnFluff%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns118=1&ns119=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&ns710=1&ns711=1&ns828=1&ns829=1">937 users</a> that are not using the default setting. If this patch is merged as is, those folks will have to go to their Twinkle preferences and turn those preferences back on manually. </p><p>Anyway, just wanted to check with the group first. Is this kind of collateral damage acceptable here? (A bunch of the 937 are probably inactive.) Or does it need to be mitigated somehow, with backwards compatibility code, an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB">WP:AWB</a> run to change them all, etc? I'm leaning towards it being acceptable, but happy to hear other thoughts. Thanks. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span>I'd personally lean towards doing an AWB run to rename the variables, because it's low-risk and a quick fix.<span id="Frostly:1732356091450:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNTwinkle" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Frostly" title="User:Frostly">Frostly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frostly" title="User talk:Frostly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"></span>SD0001 wrote a patch to provide reverse compatibility, so we'll just do that I think. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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