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[[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC) == Deleting Content == The debate about the Lebanon section you just [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_terrorism&action=historysubmit&diff=415346626&oldid=415266434 deleted] is still continuing. Please do not delete it until a clear consensus has been reached on the article's talk page. --[[User:Rpeh|rpeh]]<span style="font-size:xx-small">&nbsp;•[[User_Talk:Rpeh|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Rpeh|C]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Rpeh|E]]•</span> 17:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC) == [[WP:3RR]] == [[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|left|alt=|link=]] You currently appear to be engaged in an [[Wikipedia:Edit warring|edit war]]. 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In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]]. If edit warring continues, '''you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing without further notice.'''  :Although the edit war is over, and the template above is inapplicable inasmuch as that is true, you should familiarize yourself / abide by [[WP:DISRUPT]]: :"editors should note that the three revert rule should not be broken even by editors attempting to revert disruptive edits" :A report of your activity on the [[Disinformation]] page is being entered at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring]] :[[User:Anarchangel|Anarchangel]] ([[User talk:Anarchangel|talk]]) 03:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC) == Talk:Communist terrorism == Could you please remove [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACommunist_terrorism&action=historysubmit&diff=415727467&oldid=415725706 this comment] which may be seen as a personal attack. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 18:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC) :I have struck the perceived personal attack. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 19:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC) == Belated == It has been my experience (my perception, of course) that "NPOV"ing of the Soviet legacy on WP is a veritable cottage industry. Apologies for the belated welcoming! [[User:Vecrumba|P<small>ЄTЄRS</small>&nbsp;<s>J</s>&nbsp;V]]<small> ►[[User_talk:Vecrumba|TALK]]</small> 19:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC) :I suspect your perceptions are correct. But thank you for the welcome belated or not, it is appreciated given the usual messages posted here are, unpleasant shall we say. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 19:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC) == Re: Father Stalin == I have not. This looks interesting though; it could use the original lyrics (presumably Ukrainian), for the text as it stands certainly seems like a poeticised translation. ~~ [[User:Lothar von Richthofen|Lothar von Richthofen]] ([[User talk:Lothar von Richthofen|talk]]) 00:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :I only have the English translation from Bloodlands. I shall continue on my quest to find other sources. Thank you. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 00:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC) == CPI(ML)PW == Hi. I replied again at the talk page. However, to begin with, you ought to recognize that the organization no longer exists as such. "is" is incorrect, "was" is correct in the first sentence. --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 01:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :Yes I know in 04 they merged with the MCC to become the CPI. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 01:27, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::Regarding MCC, please note that no organization in South Asia uses the name "Center". South Asia uses British spellings of English. MCC, MCC(I) and MCCI are the same, its just different names for different stages of development of the same organization (which eventually merged into CPI(Maoist)). --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 02:29, 8 March 2011 (UTC) == Left-wing terrorism == Please see [[Template:POV#When to remove]]: "This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever: 2.Discussions about neutrality issues have stopped (for more than a few days)." Tags are supposed to be used in order to draw attention to problems that may be resolved. What specific changes do you think should be made to this article? If this article is merged into [[Communist terrorism]], will it make that article POV? [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 14:07, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :I add POV templates to articles that I believe lack neutrality and remove them where I believe there are no neutrality issues, and either there is no recent discussion, no POV issues have been identified or consensus has been achieved. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 14:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::No matter, thank you again. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 14:43, 8 March 2011 (UTC) == March 2011 == {{hat}} <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Balance icon.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] To enforce an [[WP:Arbitration|arbitration]] decision, you have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''1 week'''&nbsp;for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes&diff=417783427&oldid=417243356 editing] the article in violation of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes restrictions] that apply to it&nbsp;on the page [[Mass killings under Communist regimes]]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#Arbitration enforcement blocks|guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks]] and follow the instructions there to appeal your block. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 15:23, 8 March 2011 (UTC) <hr/><p><small>'''Notice to administrators:''' In a <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&oldid=349940199#Motions_regarding_Trusilver_and_Arbitration_Enforcement March 2010 decision]</span>, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as [[WP:AN]] or [[WP:ANI]]). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification|proper page]]. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."</small></div> {{unblock reviewed | 1=Would someone be so kind as to move the below appeal to the correct venue, and please inform Sandstein of it. Thank you. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 16:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)| accept=Provided that you adhere to your agreement not to edit the article for six months, I have lifted your block. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 07:24, 9 March 2011 (UTC)}} {{hab}} == Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Tentontunic == {{hat}} <small>''Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&oldid=349940199#Motions_regarding_Trusilver_and_Arbitration_Enforcement this 2010 ArbCom motion]. According to that motion, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action. <p>To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see [[WP:UNINVOLVED]]).''</small> ; Appealing user : {{userlinks|Tentontunic}} – [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 16:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ; Sanction being appealed : [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes restrictions] This one made up by the blocking administrator. ; Administrator imposing the sanction : {{admin|Sandstein}} ; Notification of that administrator : ''The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a [[WP:DIFF|diff]] of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.'' ===Statement by Tentontunic=== This is not an Arbcom imposed sanction, after a little digging around I found that Sandstein has in fact created this restriction himself. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sandstein&oldid=415876361#Mass_killings_sanction]. I think a one week block is far to harsh for removing a POV tag which has sat on an article since 2009. I also think one admin creating and imposing such harsh sanctions alone is not quite right, were is the consensus for this restriction? Who was informed of these restrictions? I had no part in any conversation regarding them. I had not even seen the damn restrictions when I edited the page. I should like this block reduced to time served and will of course abide by these restrictions in future, now that I know they are there. I had als ojust been told by The Four Deuces that this was allowed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tentontunic&action=historysubmit&diff=417781788&oldid=417776158]. In fact I shall take a voluntary 6mth ban from the article, it is more trouble than it is worth. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 16:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ===Statement by Sandstein=== ===Statement by (involved editor 1)=== ===Statement by (involved editor 2)=== ===Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Tentontunic === ===Result of the appeal by Tentontunic=== :''This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.''  {{hab}} == How long does this actually take == {{hat}} {{tmbox | type = style | image = [[File:Pictogram_resolved.svg|40px]] | text = <span style="font-size:120%;">'''Someone has replied to your request for help.'''</span><br />Please see below for the reply. If you need more help or have additional questions, please replace the code '''{{tlf|help me-helped}}''' on this page with '''{{tlf|help me}}''', or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page. }} I posted an unblock request at 16:21 so that my appeal against a one week block would be reviewed. I see no way to e-mail the blocking administrator on his talk page and as no one has looked at my un block request to move my appeal to the correct forum I am trying this. Please forgive me if this is a misuse of this template but I am a little frustrated at having had to wait so long to begin y appeal. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :Everyone here is a volunteer, we cannot guarantee a prompt response. The blocking administrator, {{user0|Sandstein}} has email enabled: on either his user page or talk page, look in the left hand sidebar for a link "Email this user". You may have to click "Toolbox" to make it visible. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 22:28, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::If you don't see "Email this user" in Sandstein's left hand sidebar, it's possible, I'm not sure, that you may have to enable your own email first. To do that, click on "My preferences" at the top of the screen, and on the "User profile" tab, at the bottom, enter your email address (which nobody will see) and check the box marked "Enable e-mail from other users." [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 22:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :::Thank you, but I do not wish to have my e-mail made public or receive messages from random strangers. I shall have to wait the block out I suppose. Thank`s again. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:34, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :I am aware of your unblock request but do not believe that it should be granted. Admins have the authority to impose discretionary sanctions without consensus in this topic area, and you were made aware of the sanction by way of the edit notice that appeared above the edit box. The addition or removal of the POV tag, in particular, has been the topic of much edit-warring in the past, including notably by you. The most recent removal of the tag by you, for which you were blocked, is a continuation of this long-running edit war. I will therefore not lift your block on the basis of your appeal or submit your appeal to a community discussion. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 22:35, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::You were aware and choose to ignore me and let me sweat? How very kind of you. I did not see the notice when I removed the tag, I assumed it was the 1R one. I have removed the POV tag twice, and one of those was self reverted, that is not edit warring. Given you are the blocking administrator and thus are involved you have no right to refuse my right of appeal. I have not asked you to lift the block, I have asked for the block to be reviewed, as is my right. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :::I have not declined your unblock request. You will need to wait until an administrator reviews it. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 22:43, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::::It is not an unblock request, it is an appeal. I followed the instructions in the block notice. Your refusal to move the appeal to the appropriate forum is bad form, the fact that I have said I will not edit the article for six months ought to be enough to have the block lifted, it is far in excess of the supposed crime. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC) ::::And the digwuren arbitration decision on imposing sanctions say ''Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision by an uninvolved administrator; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines.''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren&diff=prev&oldid=417792438#Discretionary_sanctions] I was not given any warning link by an administrator. You have not even followed to correct protocol on this matter. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC) :::::You have been given a link to the Digwuren decision - in the edit notice. Nonetheless, provided that you adhere to your agreement not to edit the article for six months, I have lifted your block as it is no longer needed. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span></small> 07:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC) ::::::Thank you. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 07:59, 9 March 2011 (UTC) {{hab}} == Your [[WP:GA|GA]] nomination of [[The River Saile]] == The article [[The River Saile]] you nominated as a [[Wikipedia:Good article nominations|good article]] has failed [[Image:Symbol unsupport vote.svg|20px]]; see [[Talk:The River Saile]] for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment|reassessment]]. [[User:Jezhotwells|Jezhotwells]] ([[User talk:Jezhotwells|talk]]) 15:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC) Thanks you for looking, I shall expand upon it once my block expires. <ref name="David Atkinson">{{cite journal|last=Atkinson|first=David|title=History, Symbol, and Meaning in 'The Cruel Mother'|journal=Folk Music Journal|year=1992|volume=6|issue=3|pages=359-380|url=http://www.jstor.org/stable/4522412}}</ref> == Punching pregnant women == I figured you must have seen that. [[User:The Interior|<span style="color:brown;">The</span><span style="color:green;"> Interior</span>]] [[User Talk:The Interior|(Talk)]] 12:30, 9 March 2011 (UTC) :Ya but it took a few minutes, I`m looking for better sourcing on that BLP now. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 12:31, 9 March 2011 (UTC) == [[WP:DYK]] == When you create a beyond-[[WP:STUB]] article like [[Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler]], consider adding [[WP:FOOTNOTES|inline citations]] to each sentence, not just paragraphs, and nominate your work at [[T:TDYK]] for a front-page exposure. Also, consider adding [[WP:ASSESS]] talk page tags like I did for you. Thanks! --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 19:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC) :I have no idea what most of that means. I am guessing the assess thing is what you have put on the talk page? A cite for each line would be overkill don`t you think? I`ll go look at the [[T:TDYK]] thing now. Thanks. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 19:23, 9 March 2011 (UTC) ::A cite for each line is useful as other editors can move your sentences around and insert more. I will try to expand the article and nominate it for T:TYK for you, but in the future, you may want to do it yourself. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 19:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC) :::Thank you, I am looking slowly over the TYK thing. It looks quite complex, the next article I create I shall try to do as you have suggested. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 19:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC) == Father Stalin == I have provided my comments on possible copyright violations on this article on the article's discussion page. I suggest that that is the appropriate forum for discussion of the deletion request. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 18:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC) :I have deleted it. To say "This was a nursery rhyme from 1930. It is not nor ever has been copyrighted." is simply wrong - see the [[WP:FAQ/Copyright]]: "''The absence of a copyright notice does not mean that a work may be freely used.''" If you are saying that because of its age it is in the public domain, you would need to show that it had been published before 1923 - see [[WP:FAQ/Copyright#Public domain]]. Also, it is probable that the translator has a copyright on the English version. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 19:09, 10 March 2011 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice]] == [[Image:Ambox warning yellow.svg|left|link=|48px|]] The article [[Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern: :'''Relatively new journal, apparently not indexed anywhere. Apart from a very minor controversy (see references 1 and 2), no indication of notability. Does not meet [[WP:GNG]] or [[WP:NJournals]].''' While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be [[WP:DEL#REASON|deleted for any of several reasons]]. You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your [[Help:edit summary|edit summary]] or on [[Talk:Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice|the article's talk page]]. Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion process]], but other [[Wikipedia:deletion process|deletion process]]es exist. The [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion]] process can result in deletion without discussion, and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|articles for deletion]] allows discussion to reach [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for deletion. [[User:Crusio|Crusio]] ([[User talk:Crusio|talk]]) 08:16, 11 March 2011 (UTC) == Nomination of [[Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice]] for deletion == <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|42px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]]. The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. [[User:Crusio|Crusio]] ([[User talk:Crusio|talk]]) 08:40, 11 March 2011 (UTC) == On using templates == Hello Tentontunic, as you might have seen I've come across some of your C class destroyer articles and noticed that you copied the entire code from the {{t|C class destroyer (1943)}} navigation box into the articles. That's really not needed because it's even the purpose of coded templates to have bulky code stored on a central place but to use it by applying a simple string. Like e.g. <nowiki>{{refbegin}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{refend}}</nowiki> you can use any template page title within curly brackets <nowiki>{{}}</nowiki> and the proper box or message will be displayed on the article page. Happy editing, [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 00:33, 13 March 2011 (UTC) :P.S.: Having browsed your talk page archive I also noticed that you've basically been advised to add inline citations for each and every sentence in a paragraph. I just wanted to let you know that such a practice is utter nonsense and bad writing style in my opinion. Not only does it clutter the article it is not even recommended by Wikipedia's guidelines. [[Wikipedia:When to cite]] says very clearly that you need not cite every single sentence in a paragraph while using the same source for it (you should mention different sources though). And on a general note, inline citations are only required for potentially contentious material, for quotes and for directly copied phrases. So I would suggest being bold and developing your own judgment of when and where to cite additional sources with an inline tag. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 01:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC) :Yes I thought it would be overkill to use so many. Thanks for your help and advice. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 08:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC) == United States and state terrorism == You have now reached 3RR on this article. Please stop removing content from the article and work toward consensus. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 13:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC) :No I have not, look again. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 13:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC) ::Actually, you have exceeded 3RR. Please self revert your recent edits. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 13:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC) :::I am unable to self revert due to slaterseven edit warring in content against policy, I still have not broken 3r though, but I am quite certain you shall take great pleasure in reporting me anyway, have fun. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 13:47, 15 March 2011 (UTC) :::: Welcome to WP, where the United States is a terrorist organization, communist terrorists are mislabeled left-wingers, and communist genocide does not exist. Let's not forget the USSR being the kinder, gentler occupiers, really, just a friendly intervention. [[User:Vecrumba|P<small>ЄTЄRS</small>&nbsp;<s>J</s>&nbsp;V]]<small> ►[[User_talk:Vecrumba|TALK]]</small> 14:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC) :::::I know, it`s insane isn`t it. But who ever said there was no communist genocide? That would be, well madness to say. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 14:46, 15 March 2011 (UTC) I strongly suggest you keep to 1RR. Not breaking 3RR still means you can be blocked for [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. See also [[WP:BRD]]. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span>]]</span></sub> 20:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC) :I second that. Formal adherence to the 3RR rule is not sufficient when the spirit of the WP policy is violated.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 20:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC) == Communist terrorism == Although your last removal of the section does not violate 1RR letter, it violates the spirit of the WP policy and, therefore is a pure edit warring. I suggest you to self-revert and to join a discussion on the talk page. Remember that consensus is not a right of veto.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 20:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC) :I do not see it that way, as there is no consensus for inclusion of either your or my proposals it seems best to remove both until such a time as a consensus is reached. Given this article is under digwuren sanctions it seems prudent to remove obviously contentious material. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 20:06, 17 March 2011 (UTC) ::I suggest you self-revert. Also, some of your comments to Paul Siebert may be seen as personal attacks and should be re-ractored. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 20:40, 17 March 2011 (UTC) :::You may make further suggestions [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flemish_Bond.jpg|Here]. The removal of obviously contentious content was quite simply the right thing to do, there is no consensus for either version. I suggest you do not come here and attempt to browbeat me again. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC) ::::By refusing to provide concrete arguments you abstained from the consensus building process. Therefore, your references to consensus are based on nothing. All legitimate concerns have been addressed, therefore we do have consensus. Please, self-revert, otherwise we will have to take other steps.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 21:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC) :::::Is that the royal we? Or do you have a gang? If there is no consensus for inclusion, then it stays out. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 22:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC) ::::::Please, provide ''serious'' arguments against inclusion. The arguments you provided so far are totally unsubstantiated, therefore, they express just your own opinion, and nothing more. This is not sufficient to prevent me from adding properly sourced and neutral text. If no ''real'' arguments (supported by sources) will follow, I'll restore the text removed by you.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert|talk]]) 00:05, 18 March 2011 (UTC) I have now filed a report at AE and you may reply [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Request_concerning_Tentontunic here]. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 03:01, 18 March 2011 (UTC) == Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice == Hi, Tentontunic. It looks like this article might have legs after all. If you haven't been watching [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice | the AfD discussion]] you might like to review it and [[Journal of Global Drug Policy and Practice | the article itself]] with a view toward possibly changing your !vote back to "Keep". I've done so myself, as did Crusio (who nominated it for deleteion) based on that discussion and on the new sources that user Pontificalibus and myself have added to the article. Btw, have you ever thought about some lighter garb? I imagine a ten ton tunic will be pretty warm with summer coming on in the northern hemisphere. Maybe something in the one or two ton range? ;-) Cheers, &nbsp;–&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Cambria;">[[User:Ohiostandard|<span style="color:teal;">'''OhioStandard'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Ohiostandard|talk]])</span> 01:46, 20 March 2011 (UTC) == Vasana == I've just had a look at your Workshop page. Try adding {{tl|infobox ship}} and seeing how much you can fill in. You might have enough info for a stub/start class article. [[WP:MILHIST]] members may be able to provide more info once the article has been created, it would be worth giving them a shout. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 11:58, 21 March 2011 (UTC) == DYK nomination of HMS Constance (1846) == [[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[HMS Constance (1846)]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath '''{{T:TDYK|HMS Constance (1846)|your nomination's entry}}''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] ([[User talk:Yoninah|talk]]) 19:15, 24 March 2011 (UTC) == Edit summaries == You should take care when using edit summaries, especially with Twinkle (TW). Edits should only be called "Vandalism" when they meet the criteria in [[WP:VANDAL]]. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 15:23, 27 March 2011 (UTC) :Tell that to IGNY who has reverted myself and called it vandalism, I also consider accusations of edit warring on my talk page an attack which borders on vandalism. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 15:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC) ::I told Igny not to use the term vandalism in edit summaries as you can see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive672#Is_removing_a_BIAS_tag_vandalism.3F here]. He has not in fact done so since. [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 19:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC) == Ownership == I deliberately did not directly accuse anyone in particular as I hoped someone would look with "clean hands" so to speak but no you weren't the person(s) I had in mind. I appreciate and sympathise with your predicament. Regards, [[User:Wee Curry Monster|Wee Curry Monster]] <small>[[User talk:Wee Curry Monster|talk]]</small> 17:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC) :Thank you. I have been in Glasgow by the way, loved it. Although I found the easter house a little rough around the edges :) [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 17:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC) ::If I may offer a word of advice, tendentious argument on AN/I is not helping your case. [[User:Wee Curry Monster|Wee Curry Monster]] <small>[[User talk:Wee Curry Monster|talk]]</small> 20:33, 4 April 2011 (UTC) :::And good advice it is, I shall refrain from further comment, but it annoys me no end when people tell only half a story. [[User:Tentontunic|Tentontunic]] ([[User talk:Tentontunic#top|talk]]) 20:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC) == talkback == Hi, talkback - [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC) == DYK for Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler == {{tmbox |style = notice |small = |image = [[Image:Updated DYK query.svg|15px|Updated DYK query]] |text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions#8 April 2011|8 April 2011]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know?]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler]]''''', which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ''... that '''''[[Bloodlands: Europe Between Stalin and Hitler]]''''', by [[Timothy D. Snyder]], discusses the estimated {{Nowrap|14 million}} deaths that occurred in [[Eastern Europe]] between 1933 and 1945?'' 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