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class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sock_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sock_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Sock question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Sock_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ec_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ec_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>ec question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-ec_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Golden" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Golden"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Golden</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Golden-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Google" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Google"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Google</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Google-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>New message from Red-tailed hawk</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AN" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AN"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>AN</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AN-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Editor_experience_invitation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Editor_experience_invitation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Editor experience invitation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Editor_experience_invitation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Appeal_restoration" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Appeal_restoration"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Appeal restoration</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Appeal_restoration-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"The_diaeresis"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"The_diaeresis""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>"The diaeresis"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"The_diaeresis"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Salt" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Salt"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Salt</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Salt-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-An_idle_observation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#An_idle_observation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>An idle observation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-An_idle_observation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Admin_accountability" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Admin_accountability"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Admin accountability</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Admin_accountability-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redirect" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redirect"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Redirect</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Redirect-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AE_word_limit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AE_word_limit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>AE word limit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AE_word_limit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>A mini-project to improve rcat templates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Another apparent NeuroSex sockpuppet</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_friendly_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_friendly_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>A friendly request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_friendly_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Non-EC user creating articles in ARABPIA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Yet another sockpuppet of Neurosex</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fashions_by_decade_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fashions_by_decade_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Fashions by decade articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fashions_by_decade_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-0RR_in_effect" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#0RR_in_effect"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>0RR in effect</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-0RR_in_effect-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-AvinashCabral_Sock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#AvinashCabral_Sock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>AvinashCabral Sock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-AvinashCabral_Sock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Another_NeuroSex_sock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_NeuroSex_sock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Another NeuroSex sock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Another_NeuroSex_sock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#List of Commonly Used Queer Acronyms</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mismatching_socks" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mismatching_socks"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Mismatching socks</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mismatching_socks-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_solstice_greeting" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_solstice_greeting"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>A solstice greeting</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_solstice_greeting-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Yo_Ho_Ho" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Yo_Ho_Ho"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Yo Ho Ho</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Yo_Ho_Ho-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Seasons_Greetings" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Seasons_Greetings"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Seasons Greetings</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Seasons_Greetings-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_holidays!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_holidays!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Happy holidays!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_holidays!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redirect_patrol" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redirect_patrol"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Redirect patrol</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Redirect_patrol-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-routine_revdel_(I_think)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#routine_revdel_(I_think)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>routine revdel (I think)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-routine_revdel_(I_think)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_New_Year" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_New_Year"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Happy New Year</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_New_Year-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_Rollback_re-grant"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Request for Rollback re-grant</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Weasily" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Weasily"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Weasily</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Weasily-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Your GA nomination of The Many Faces of Jesus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>DYK for The Many Faces of Jesus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>DYK for Gay Jesus film hoax</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Your GA nomination of Mira Bellwether</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Restoring a deleted page entitled "مسعود شفیعی"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rollback_conditions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rollback_conditions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Rollback conditions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Rollback_conditions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Move_to_workshop" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Move_to_workshop"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Move to workshop</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Move_to_workshop-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Uncivil_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Uncivil_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Uncivil message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Uncivil_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>DYK for Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Watching the Night, or the current RfA</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RfA_comments" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RfA_comments"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>RfA comments</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RfA_comments-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>ARCA request - contentious topics appeals 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data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello_again-20231109194200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infinity_Knight-20231109194200-Hello_again"></span>Please see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FEnforcement&diff=1184332605&oldid=1184237375">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Infinity_Knight" title="User:Infinity Knight">Infinity Knight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infinity_Knight" title="User talk:Infinity Knight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Infinity_Knight-20231109194200-Hello_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 9 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infinity_Knight-20231109194200-Hello_again"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infinity_Knight-20231109194200-Hello_again"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes." data-mw-thread-id="h-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes.-20231113180500"><span id="Welp.2C_that.27s_one_for_the_userboxes."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes.-20231113180500"></span>Welp, that's one for the userboxes.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes.-20231113180500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AstatineEnjoyer-20231113180500-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes."></span>I can now say I was "blocked" by an IP. Thanks for that revert, and happy trails. <a href="/wiki/User:AstatineEnjoyer" title="User:AstatineEnjoyer">I like Astatine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AstatineEnjoyer" title="User talk:AstatineEnjoyer">Talk to me</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-AstatineEnjoyer-20231113180500-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AstatineEnjoyer-20231113180500-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AstatineEnjoyer-20231113180500-Welp,_that's_one_for_the_userboxes."></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPI_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_question-20231114200200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_question-20231114200200"></span>SPI question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_question-20231114200200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20231114200200-SPI_question"></span>I've noticed some very odd behaviour by a user that really only makes sense to me as "sockpuppeteer forgot what account they were logged into while editing". I don't have any other account to link them to, so it's my understanding that I'm not supposed to open an SPI about it. What <i>am</i> I supposed to do? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Asilvering-20231114200200-SPI_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20231114200200-SPI_question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20231114200200-SPI_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231114203000-Asilvering-20231114200200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">Asilvering</a>: Well you can post it here and I can take a look. Or you can email me if you think it will be sensitive. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231114203000-Asilvering-20231114200200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231114203000-Asilvering-20231114200200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231114203000-Asilvering-20231114200200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20231114203700-Tamzin-20231114203000"></span>It's this user: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vlodiker_Chimok">[1]</a>. The strange behaviour is draftifying an article after it was accepted by an AfC reviewer - the first edits this user has ever made in mainspace. Previously, there's a hiatus for a few months, before which they worked on something completely unrelated. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Asilvering-20231114203700-Tamzin-20231114203000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20231114203700-Tamzin-20231114203000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20231114203700-Tamzin-20231114203000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JBW-20231114214000-Asilvering-20231114203700"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">Asilvering</a>, there is a very unusual editing pattern going on, and really not looking like a new user, but I don't see anything more definite than that. Tamzin may be able to offer something more helpful, but at present the best I can say is that it may be worth watching the account for a while. <a href="/wiki/User:JBW" title="User:JBW">JBW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JBW" title="User talk:JBW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-JBW-20231114214000-Asilvering-20231114203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JBW-20231114214000-Asilvering-20231114203700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JBW-20231114214000-Asilvering-20231114203700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asilvering-20231115004300-JBW-20231114214000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JBW" title="User:JBW">JBW</a> I assume that it's gone dormant again and will be for some time. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Asilvering" title="User:Asilvering">asilvering</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asilvering" title="User talk:Asilvering">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Asilvering-20231115004300-JBW-20231114214000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asilvering-20231115004300-JBW-20231114214000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asilvering-20231115004300-JBW-20231114214000"></span></dd> <dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elli-20231115213400-JBW-20231114214000"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> The only sock I recall doing similar draftification to that was MRY (see <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/VladimirBoys" title="Special:Contributions/VladimirBoys">Special:Contributions/VladimirBoys</a>), but the other editing doesn't seem to line up. <a href="/wiki/User:Elli" title="User:Elli">Elli</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elli" title="User talk:Elli">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elli" title="Special:Contributions/Elli">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Elli-20231115213400-JBW-20231114214000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elli-20231115213400-JBW-20231114214000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elli-20231115213400-JBW-20231114214000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Restriction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Restriction-20231116184800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Restriction-20231116184800"></span>Restriction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Restriction-20231116184800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-20231116184800-Restriction"></span>If you want to impose me a restriction of no more than 500 / 1000 / 2000 words per Anthroposophical topic, I would agree. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tgeorgescu-20231116184800-Restriction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 16 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-20231116184800-Restriction"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-20231116184800-Restriction"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:Tomafahe_bot" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:Tomafahe_bot-20231117223400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:Tomafahe_bot-20231117223400"></span>User:Tomafahe bot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:Tomafahe_bot-20231117223400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400-User:Tomafahe_bot"></span>gah <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400-User:Tomafahe_bot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400-User:Tomafahe_bot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400-User:Tomafahe_bot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231117223700-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400"></span>ikr? <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231117223700-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231117223700-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231117223700-Deepfriedokra-20231117223400"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Prusiner" data-mw-thread-id="h-Prusiner-20231118160100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Prusiner-20231118160100"></span>Prusiner<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Prusiner-20231118160100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DragonflySixtyseven-20231118160100-Prusiner"></span>Per your request after our discussion, a reminder of the Prusiner issue. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:DragonflySixtyseven" title="User:DragonflySixtyseven">DS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DragonflySixtyseven" title="User talk:DragonflySixtyseven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-DragonflySixtyseven-20231118160100-Prusiner" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DragonflySixtyseven-20231118160100-Prusiner"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DragonflySixtyseven-20231118160100-Prusiner"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope-20231118222700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope-20231118222700"></span><a href="/wiki/User:Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope" title="User:Hope a Dope a Rope">Hope a Dope a Rope</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope-20231118222700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20231118222700-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope"></span>I wasn't sure about asking for rev/del on some of those. <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Knitsey-20231118222700-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20231118222700-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20231118222700-Hope_a_Dope_a_Rope"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231118223000-Knitsey-20231118222700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a>: Think I've gotten everything that meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RD2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RD2">RD2</a>. If I missed anything, feel free to email. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231118223000-Knitsey-20231118222700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231118223000-Knitsey-20231118222700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231118223000-Knitsey-20231118222700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knitsey-20231118223100-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span>You've got it me lovely, thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Knitsey-20231118223100-Tamzin-20231118223000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knitsey-20231118223100-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knitsey-20231118223100-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231118223200-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span>Oh, and are any talkpage-watchers familiar enough wiht Evlekis to tell if <a href="/wiki/Special:PageHistory/Norm_Macdonald" title="Special:PageHistory/Norm Macdonald">Special:PageHistory/Norm Macdonald</a> is self-edit-warring? The content almost certainly meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUE">WP:DUE</a>, although someone might need to find better sources than are currently used. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231118223200-Tamzin-20231118223000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231118223200-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231118223200-Tamzin-20231118223000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seawolf35-20231118225300-Tamzin-20231118223200"></span>Hi, sorry to jump in , but what LTA are they? <a href="/wiki/User:Seawolf35" title="User:Seawolf35">Seawolf35</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Seawolf35#top" title="User talk:Seawolf35">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Seawolf35" title="Special:EmailUser/Seawolf35">email</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Seawolf35-20231118225300-Tamzin-20231118223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seawolf35-20231118225300-Tamzin-20231118223200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Seawolf35-20231118225300-Tamzin-20231118223200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzuuzz-20231118225500-Seawolf35-20231118225300"></span>The account is Evlekis. The others I'd be inclined to lean a bit negative at this time, though I can't really say any more than that. I can tell you that Evlekis doesn't edit from the US. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Zzuuzz" title="User:Zzuuzz">zzuuzz</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzuuzz" title="User talk:Zzuuzz">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Zzuuzz-20231118225500-Seawolf35-20231118225300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzuuzz-20231118225500-Seawolf35-20231118225300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzuuzz-20231118225500-Seawolf35-20231118225300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231118234900-Zzuuzz-20231118225500"></span>Thanks, zzuuzz. The British IP is a mess of vandalism and BLPvio since February, which has seemingly slipped through the cracks owing to the dynamicness of the /64. So I've blocked 6mo, without finding as to whether they're Evlekis. No action on the American IP. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231118234900-Zzuuzz-20231118225500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231118234900-Zzuuzz-20231118225500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231118234900-Zzuuzz-20231118225500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article-20231119124600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article-20231119124600"></span>Looking for advice re: <a href="/wiki/Iraq_war" class="mw-redirect" title="Iraq war">Iraq war</a> article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article-20231119124600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article"></span> Hi Tamzin, (or any talk page watchers!) </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> I was hoping I could get some advice on how to proceed. In the <a href="/wiki/Iraq_war" class="mw-redirect" title="Iraq war">Iraq war</a> article, you may recall the now-indeffed Ali36800p was stonewalling against changes to the infobox. Since then, it seems to me that a consensus has developed on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Iraq_war#Result_in_infobox" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Iraq war">the talk page</a>, but some IPs have been edit warring it back. My question has three parts. </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> <ol><li>Is my read of that as consensus reasonable? One other editor indicated so, but I'm also aware that two does not a quorum make. If I'm mistaken or in a gray area, would an RFC be an acceptable way to help generate a firm consensus (one way or the other)?</li> <li>If my read is correct, what's the most appropriate way to enforce that consensus on the article page? I'm up to two reverts already, and too new to want to do a third revert. The options I've considered are ANI, request for page protection, and SPI. (See below.)</li> <li>The third and final wrinkle is that I suspect these IPs to be socks or meatpuppets of Ali36800p. First, these IPs geolocate to the same locations as the suspected socks/meats/joe-jobs just prior to their indef. Second, their first ever edits were to the same interest areas as Ali36800p, espousing what seem to be the same views. Finally, the timing is interesting, in that Ali was silent for quite some time, and the IPs were not active, but just a couple days after Ali reposted their <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ali36800p&diff=prev&oldid=1185477267">request for an unblock decision</a></span> (Nov 16) these IPs suddenly came up with the same arguments as Ali. (Nov 18) I haven't yet filed an SPI because I'm not experienced enough to know solid this evidence is, and I don't want to waste clerk time if this isn't anywhere near enough for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUCK">WP:DUCK</a> block.</li></ol> <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p>Thanks in advance; I want to avoid wasting community time, and I figure getting good advice instead of getting near 3RR is a smarter way to do that! <a href="/wiki/User:EducatedRedneck" title="User:EducatedRedneck">EducatedRedneck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EducatedRedneck" title="User talk:EducatedRedneck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600-Looking_for_advice_re:_Iraq_war_article"></span> </p><dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EdJohnston-20231119170600-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> After reviewing the protection log, I'd suggest that <a href="/wiki/Iraq_War" title="Iraq War">Iraq War</a> deserves indefinite semiprotection. <a href="/wiki/User:EdJohnston" title="User:EdJohnston">EdJohnston</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EdJohnston" title="User talk:EdJohnston">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-EdJohnston-20231119170600-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EdJohnston-20231119170600-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EdJohnston-20231119170600-EducatedRedneck-20231119124600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119181000-EdJohnston-20231119170600"></span>Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:EdJohnston" title="User:EdJohnston">EdJohnston</a>! I've put in a request at RFPP; I hadn't even thought of that, and appreciate the guidance! <a href="/wiki/User:EducatedRedneck" title="User:EducatedRedneck">EducatedRedneck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EducatedRedneck" title="User talk:EducatedRedneck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-EducatedRedneck-20231119181000-EdJohnston-20231119170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119181000-EdJohnston-20231119170600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EducatedRedneck-20231119181000-EdJohnston-20231119170600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade" data-mw-thread-id="h-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade-20231120054700"><span id="1997_Macy.27s_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade-20231120054700"></span><a href="/wiki/1997_Macy%27s_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade" title="1997 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade">1997 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade-20231120054700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scorpions1325-20231120054700-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade"></span>You can almost call it a <a href="/wiki/Thanksgiving_Day_Disaster" title="Thanksgiving Day Disaster">Thanksgiving Day Disaster</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Scorpions1325" title="User:Scorpions1325">Scorpions1325</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scorpions1325" title="User talk:Scorpions1325">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Scorpions1325-20231120054700-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scorpions1325-20231120054700-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scorpions1325-20231120054700-1997_Macy's_Thanksgiving_Day_Parade"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sock_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sock_question-20231121164900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sock_question-20231121164900"></span>Sock question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sock_question-20231121164900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-20231121164900-Sock_question"></span>Tamzin, I was pinged by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IndicHistorian555">IndicHistorian555</a></span> (don't know why they picked me) to review the edits of <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hassan_Gangu">Hassan Gangu</a></span>. I did spend some time doing that, not exactly sure why but... I ended up blocking Indic as a sock, but, at the same time, I wondered if Hassan is the same person as <a href="/wiki/User:Aryan330" title="User:Aryan330">Aryan330</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aryan330" title="User talk:Aryan330">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aryan330" title="Special:Contributions/Aryan330">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Aryan330" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Aryan330">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Aryan330" title="Special:Log/Aryan330">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Aryan330">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Aryan330" title="Special:Block/Aryan330">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AAryan330">block log</a>)</span>. Because you blocked Aryan on November 6, I figured you would be more familiar with Aryan and might want to compare the two. Thanks.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bbb23-20231121164900-Sock_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-20231121164900-Sock_question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-20231121164900-Sock_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231121181100-Bbb23-20231121164900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a>: A tale of two boomerangs, eh? Well, on behavioral evidence I don't think Hassan is Aryan330. But the Mughal–Maratha topic area is crawling with POV-pushers and sox, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're <em>someone</em> (hint, hint, TPW CUs). <span class="plainlinks cuEntry"><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Melechha">Melechha</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Melechha" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Melechha">talk</a><sup><span style="font-size: 120%;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMelechha&action=edit&section=new"><span style="color: grey;">+</span></a></span></sup> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMelechha&preload=Template%3ACheckuser%2FPreload&preloadparams%5B%5D=%3C%21--+insert+sock+master+here+--%3E&action=edit">tag</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Melechha" title="Special:Contributions/Melechha">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Melechha" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Melechha">deleted contribs</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=Melechha">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Melechha">filter log</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Melechha" title="Special:Block/Melechha">block user</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AMelechha">block log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Melechha" class="extiw" title="m:Special:CentralAuth/Melechha">CA</a><span class="cuLink checkuser-show"> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUser&user=Melechha">CheckUser</a>(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUserLog&cuSearch=Melechha">log</a>) <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AInvestigate&targets=Melechha">investigate</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?ns2=1&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns14=1&search=Melechha">cuwiki</a></span>)</span> is the other partisan from that POV who was involved in <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/1171392321#Melechha" title="Special:PermanentLink/1171392321">the sprawling AE thread</a>, and I'd call that behaviorally inconclusive. Abecedare is sadly inactive at the moment; maybe <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> has some insight. Either way, I'll ECP <a href="/wiki/Maratha_invasion_of_Deccan_(1739)" title="Maratha invasion of Deccan (1739)">Maratha invasion of Deccan (1739)</a> and drop Hassan a CTOP alert. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231121181100-Bbb23-20231121164900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231121181100-Bbb23-20231121164900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231121181100-Bbb23-20231121164900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-20231121185700-Tamzin-20231121181100"></span>Thanks for checking out the behavior, and your other actions sound good. Me, It's late morning, and I've been up for way too long and already expended the energy I have for the hard stuff. Happy Thanksgiving!--<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bbb23-20231121185700-Tamzin-20231121181100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-20231121185700-Tamzin-20231121181100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-20231121185700-Tamzin-20231121181100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Z1720-20231122143300-Bbb23-20231121185700"></span>Hi everyone, weighing in because I was pinged and I did a quick skim of their contributions: while there are similarities in topic areas and POV perspectives, I don't think there's enough evidence to say that they are the same person. However, I would keep an eye on their contributions to ensure they are not pushing an inappropriate POV. <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Z1720" title="User talk:Z1720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Z1720-20231122143300-Bbb23-20231121185700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Z1720-20231122143300-Bbb23-20231121185700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Z1720-20231122143300-Bbb23-20231121185700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ec_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-ec_question-20231125134300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ec_question-20231125134300"></span>ec question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ec_question-20231125134300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20231125134300-ec_question"></span>If an editor gained extended-confirmed largely through violations of the EC restriction, would that be grounds for revoking or not? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nableezy-20231125134300-ec_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20231125134300-ec_question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20231125134300-ec_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128043300-Nableezy-20231125134300"></span>Hi, @<a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy">Nableezy</a>, sorry, totally missed this. Fact-bound question, would probably come down to levels of AGF. Got an example? <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128043300-Nableezy-20231125134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:33, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128043300-Nableezy-20231125134300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128043300-Nableezy-20231125134300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20231128154900-Tamzin-20231128043300"></span>ping or noping? <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nableezy-20231128154900-Tamzin-20231128043300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20231128154900-Tamzin-20231128043300"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20231128154900-Tamzin-20231128043300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20231128170900-ec_question"></span>Screw it, since it now includes edit-warring against previously established consensus at <a href="/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Washington Institute for Near East Policy">Washington Institute for Near East Policy</a> and my AGF meter is trying its best to buy it but I dont: <a href="/wiki/User:Thmymerc" title="User:Thmymerc">Thmymerc</a>: </p> <ul><li>Nearly all of their edits on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Thmymerc&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=2023-10-30&end=2023-10-30&limit=500">Oct 30</a>, excepting the first 2, 223 in sum, were adding <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1182588509" title="Special:Diff/1182588509">similar edits to this</a> to US congresspeople's biographies.</li> <li>Along with another 68 edits robotically adding a <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1185237836" title="Special:Diff/1185237836">Biden score</a> on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Thmymerc&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=2023-11-15&end=2023-11-15&limit=500">November 15</a> (non-ARBPIA but robotic and thoughtless).</li></ul> <p><small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nableezy-20231128170900-ec_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20231128170900-ec_question"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20231128170900-ec_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128205600-Nableezy-20231128170900"></span>I have a resolution in mind on the EC-gaming side, but let me look into something first. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128205600-Nableezy-20231128170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128205600-Nableezy-20231128170900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128205600-Nableezy-20231128170900"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Redirect/logid/155873813" title="Special:Redirect/logid/155873813"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128234300-Tamzin-20231128205600"></span>Blocked indefinitely.</a> Definitely someone's sock, and the normal "Oh maybe it's a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CLEANSTART" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CLEANSTART">CLEANSTART</a>" doesn't apply when the account immediately leaps into hundreds of policy violations. Gun to my head, if I had to guess a master I'd say NoCal100, but that's not a very confident guess. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128234300-Tamzin-20231128205600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128234300-Tamzin-20231128205600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128234300-Tamzin-20231128205600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20231129011600-Tamzin-20231128234300"></span>Doesnt feel like NoCal to me, theres a word that I use to describe the vibe I get reading NoCal's writing that I cant use around polite company, and I just did not get that vibe here. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nableezy-20231129011600-Tamzin-20231128234300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20231129011600-Tamzin-20231128234300"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20231129011600-Tamzin-20231128234300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Golden" data-mw-thread-id="h-Golden-20231127232100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Golden-20231127232100"></span>Golden<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Golden-20231127232100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100-Golden"></span>Hello Tamzin. Do Golden's edits in the <a href="/wiki/Shamakhi" title="Shamakhi">Shamakhi</a> and <a href="/wiki/Armenians_in_Shamakhi" title="Armenians in Shamakhi">Armenians in Shamakhi</a> articles<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shamakhi&diff=1186453595&oldid=1186394965">[2]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenians_in_Shamakhi&diff=prev&oldid=1186503734">[3]</a> violate the topic ban for <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Golden/Archive_4#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction_2">conflicts involving Armenia or Azerbaijan, broadly construed</a>? Armenians had a significant population in Shamakhi until the <a href="/wiki/First_Nagorno-Karabakh_War" title="First Nagorno-Karabakh War">First Nagorno-Karabakh War</a>, so the articles are related to conflict. Golden removed sources that stated Shamakhi "is predominantly populated by Armenians" (Hakluyt) and removed any mention of Armenians having even been the majority. And judging by the edit summary (<i>“strangers” likely refers to Turks</i>) these edits seem to consist of original research. <a href="/wiki/User:KhndzorUtogh" title="User:KhndzorUtogh">KhndzorUtogh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KhndzorUtogh" title="User talk:KhndzorUtogh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100-Golden" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100-Golden"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100-Golden"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128050000-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100"></span>Sigh. Resolved. Thanks for letting me know. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128050000-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128050000-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128050000-KhndzorUtogh-20231127232100"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Google" data-mw-thread-id="h-Google-20231128100800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Google-20231128100800"></span>Google<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Google-20231128100800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Colin-20231128100800-Google"></span>If you google "trans" the top of the page is a summary of the lead of the <a href="/wiki/Transgender" title="Transgender">Transgender</a> wikipedia page. But today it says: </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">‹ The template Infobox gender and sexual identity is being considered for deletion. › A transgender person (often shortened to trans) is someone whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.</q></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Is there any way to make that template notice something that Google ignores the way it ignores "A B-class article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" and the hatnote <i>"Not to be confused with Transsexual."</i> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Colin" title="User:Colin">Colin</a>°<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Colin" title="User talk:Colin"><sup>Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Colin-20231128100800-Google" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Colin-20231128100800-Google"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Colin-20231128100800-Google"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128153800-Colin-20231128100800"></span>Hmm. I'm not sure, @<a href="/wiki/User:Colin" title="User:Colin">Colin</a>. @<a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">Pppery</a> might know? If not, maybe a good <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a> question. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128153800-Colin-20231128100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128153800-Colin-20231128100800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128153800-Colin-20231128100800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20231128154600-Tamzin-20231128153800"></span>I've done <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Template_for_discussion/dated&diff=prev&oldid=1187329002">this</a>, which may or may not help. If not it's beyond me, although that TfD will close soon anyway rendering this moot. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pppery-20231128154600-Tamzin-20231128153800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20231128154600-Tamzin-20231128153800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20231128154600-Tamzin-20231128153800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128155000-Pppery-20231128154600"></span>It will? It's tied on the numbers, with the latest !vote adding new arguments. Either way, thanks. Guess we'll see if that change works. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128155000-Pppery-20231128154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128155000-Pppery-20231128154600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128155000-Pppery-20231128154600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"></span>New message from Red-tailed hawk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Golden-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Golden#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction" title="User talk:Golden"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/40px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/60px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg/80px-Nuvola_apps_edu_languages.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Tamzin. You have new messages at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Golden#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction" title="User talk:Golden">Golden's talk page</a>.<br/><span style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;">Message added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Golden-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a>. You can <a href="/wiki/Special:EditPage/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12" title="Special:EditPage/User talk:Tamzin/Archive/12">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Golden-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Golden-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span>— <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200-New_message_from_Red-tailed_hawk"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"></span>Alternatively, if you don't agree with my argument there, would you please just make the topic ban "Armenians, broadly construed"? Golden has a large collection of GAs about Azeri poets (<a href="/wiki/Yusuf_Meddah" title="Yusuf Meddah">Yusuf Meddah</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kishvari" title="Kishvari">Kishvari</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mirza_Shafi_Vazeh" title="Mirza Shafi Vazeh">Mirza Shafi Vazeh</a>, <a href="/wiki/Imadaddin_Nasimi" title="Imadaddin Nasimi">Imadaddin Nasimi</a>, etc.) and an FA in that same topic area (<a href="/wiki/Fuzuli_(poet)" title="Fuzuli (poet)">Fuzuli (poet)</a>). If the concern is ethnic conflict POV-pushing, it might be wiser to just ban him from Armenians, and let him make edits about Azeri poets and the like. I feel like this will make it a lot easier, and will serve a more narrowly tailored <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCKP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLOCKP">preventative purpose</a> than banning him from all Azerbaijan. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128161800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800"></span>I don't know why you've split your message across two pages, but I've responded there. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128161800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128161800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128161800-Red-tailed_hawk-20231128155800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AN" data-mw-thread-id="h-AN-20231128161800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AN-20231128161800"></span>AN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AN-20231128161800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scorpions1325-20231128161800-AN"></span>I want to be clear that my meltdown at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a> had nothing to do with anything you did. I do not think you are a bigot at all. In fact, I once saw you sticking up for an editor who associates with a denomination of Christianity (Evangelical) who genuinely don't like queer people. I have always believed that if you think Trump is a reliable source of information for anything, I would question your ability to reason on just about anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Scorpions1325" title="User:Scorpions1325">Scorpions1325</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scorpions1325" title="User talk:Scorpions1325">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Scorpions1325-20231128161800-AN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scorpions1325-20231128161800-AN"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scorpions1325-20231128161800-AN"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231128163000-Scorpions1325-20231128161800"></span>It's funny, @<a href="/wiki/User:Scorpions1325" title="User:Scorpions1325">Scorpions1325</a>, no one in my RfA ever bothered to ask whether I think Wikipedia has a liberal bias. I do. I think some of that is inevitable (between "reality has a well-known liberal bias" and our duty to match the consensus POV of reliable sources, which often lean left), but often it isn't, just the product of crappy writing by AMPOL regulars. I don't have a solution to it. It does piss me off, though, to see "John Doe is a far-right<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1255586131">.mw-parser-output .fakelinks{color:var(--color-progressive,#0645ad);cursor:default}.mw-parser-output .fakelinks:hover{color:var(--color-progressive--hover,#0645ad)}</style><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[1]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[2]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[3]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[4]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[5]</sup> anti-vaxx<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[6]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[7]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[8]</sup> transphobic<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[9]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[10]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[12]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[12]</sup> Trump supporter<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[13]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[14]</sup> from Idaho who currently serves as the state's attorney general and supports the pseudoscientific<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[15]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[16]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[17]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[18]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[19]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[20]</sup><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1255586131"><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[21]</sup> belief of intelligent design". We don't write any other class of article that way—not Nazis, not serial killers, not child abusers—and the people who perpetrate this perversion of NPOV should be ashamed of themselves. But again I don't have any solution.<a href="/wiki/User:JPxG" title="User:JPxG"></a> <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231128163000-Scorpions1325-20231128161800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231128163000-Scorpions1325-20231128161800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231128163000-Scorpions1325-20231128161800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scorpions1325-20231128164100-Tamzin-20231128163000"></span>You hit the nail right on the head. It helps to know that at least some people on the far-left are aware of this. I concede that my side doesn't fact-check as well as they used to. Heck, a Gallup poll from 2003 found that Republicans and Democrats held similar views on <a href="/wiki/Global_warming" class="mw-redirect" title="Global warming">global warming</a>. I took an environmental science class in 2020, and I was surprised to see how easy it was to defend a small-government solution to it via a literature review. In 1980, the bias would not have been a problem since the mainstream media was more diverse back then.</dd> <dd>Ever since I learned who <a href="/wiki/Tucker_Carlson" title="Tucker Carlson">Tucker Carlson</a> was, I have predicted that the biggest political realignment since 1980 will take place in 2028. This could resolve a lot of long-standing societal problems. <a href="/wiki/User:Scorpions1325" title="User:Scorpions1325">Scorpions1325</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scorpions1325" title="User talk:Scorpions1325">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Scorpions1325-20231128164100-Tamzin-20231128163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scorpions1325-20231128164100-Tamzin-20231128163000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scorpions1325-20231128164100-Tamzin-20231128163000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editor_experience_invitation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20231128220000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20231128220000"></span>Editor experience invitation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20231128220000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20231128220000-Editor_experience_invitation"></span>Hi, if you're interested, I was hoping you might be willing to talk about your experiences <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss/Editor_reflections" title="User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections">here</a>? No pressure but I'd appreciate it. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Clovermoss-20231128220000-Editor_experience_invitation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20231128220000-Editor_experience_invitation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20231128220000-Editor_experience_invitation"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Appeal_restoration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Appeal_restoration-20231129145000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Appeal_restoration-20231129145000"></span>Appeal restoration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Appeal_restoration-20231129145000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcelus-20231129145000-Appeal_restoration"></span>Hi, can you please restore my appeal? It was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=prev&diff=1187420806">archived</a> 3rd time. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcelus" title="User:Marcelus">Marcelus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcelus" title="User talk:Marcelus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Marcelus-20231129145000-Appeal_restoration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcelus-20231129145000-Appeal_restoration"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcelus-20231129145000-Appeal_restoration"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231129183600-Marcelus-20231129145000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Marcelus" title="User:Marcelus">Marcelus</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Marcelus_0RR_appeal_(now_restored_more_times_than_the_House_of_Bourbon)" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard § Marcelus 0RR appeal (now restored more times than the House of Bourbon)</a>. I've moved to close. Vive la Wikipédia. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231129183600-Marcelus-20231129145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231129183600-Marcelus-20231129145000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231129183600-Marcelus-20231129145000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcelus-20231129194900-Tamzin-20231129183600"></span>Thank you very much <a href="/wiki/User:Marcelus" title="User:Marcelus">Marcelus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcelus" title="User talk:Marcelus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Marcelus-20231129194900-Tamzin-20231129183600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcelus-20231129194900-Tamzin-20231129183600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcelus-20231129194900-Tamzin-20231129183600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""The_diaeresis"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"The_diaeresis"-20230216000800"><span id=".22The_diaeresis.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"The_diaeresis"-20230216000800"></span>"The diaeresis"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"The_diaeresis"-20230216000800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DatGuy-20230216000800-"The_diaeresis""></span>A possible solution to one of your cons is that Microsoft has an installable utility for Windows that supports this kind of stuff, rather than fumbling with ALT + 1,254,737,413. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/powertoys/quick-accent">https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/powertoys/quick-accent</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DatGuy" title="User:DatGuy">DatGuy</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DatGuy" title="User talk:DatGuy">Talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/DatGuy" title="Special:Contributions/DatGuy">Contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-DatGuy-20230216000800-"The_diaeresis"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DatGuy-20230216000800-"The_diaeresis""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DatGuy-20230216000800-"The_diaeresis""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Theleekycauldron-20230216003000-DatGuy-20230216000800"></span>now i don't have to enter and reënter those keys, thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Theleekycauldron" title="User:Theleekycauldron">theleekycauldron</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Theleekycauldron" title="User talk:Theleekycauldron">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Theleekycauldron" title="Special:Contributions/Theleekycauldron">contribs</a>) (she/her) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Theleekycauldron-20230216003000-DatGuy-20230216000800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Theleekycauldron-20230216003000-DatGuy-20230216000800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Theleekycauldron-20230216003000-DatGuy-20230216000800"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Salt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Salt-20230818220500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Salt-20230818220500"></span>Salt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Salt-20230818220500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JBW-20230818220500-Salt"></span>Hi, Tamzin. I've just seen <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Salting_is_usually_a_bad_idea" title="Wikipedia:Salting is usually a bad idea">Wikipedia:Salting is usually a bad idea</a>. I wish a few more administrators realised the very basic and simple fact which is the main point of that page. Many times I have been carefully watching a repeatedly created title to catch the next sockpuppet, only to be thwarted by someone coming along and protecting it. A related case is a personal photograph, often on Commons but sometimes on WP, which is used only for persistent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTWEBHOST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTWEBHOST">WP:NOTWEBHOST</a> violations by an editor who keeps coming back as various socks, and naively puts the same image in each new user page. So easy to check "what links here" every now and then, until someone deletes it, thereby cleverly persuading the sockpuppeteer to recreate it under a title that I'm not watching... <i>Sigh...</i> <a href="/wiki/User:JBW" title="User:JBW">JBW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JBW" title="User talk:JBW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-JBW-20230818220500-Salt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 18 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JBW-20230818220500-Salt"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JBW-20230818220500-Salt"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="An_idle_observation" data-mw-thread-id="h-An_idle_observation-20231108171500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-An_idle_observation-20231108171500"></span>An idle observation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-An_idle_observation-20231108171500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JBW-20231108171500-An_idle_observation"></span>If while I am editing on my phone, but not on my computer, I select some text in a foreign language, a box with various options pops up, including Google translation. (I think it is probably a feature of the particular browser I am using, but it just could be some option or script I've put in place and then forgotten.) Anyway, if on this page I select the text "wan Tansin li toki pona" and then select "translate", Google translate appears, and tells me that the sentence is Arabic, and means "I want to talk to you". If instead I get to Google translate by a Google search, and paste the same sentence in, it still thinks it's Arabic, but now translates it as "And if you forget me, you will protect us". </p><p>An interesting warning against treating Google translate as reliable. <a href="/wiki/User:JBW" title="User:JBW">JBW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JBW" title="User talk:JBW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-JBW-20231108171500-An_idle_observation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JBW-20231108171500-An_idle_observation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JBW-20231108171500-An_idle_observation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-178.120.54.237-20231118090400-JBW-20231108171500"></span>Trivial example. Toki Pona is one of the least common languages on the internet (and real life too). <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.120.54.237" title="Special:Contributions/178.120.54.237">178.120.54.237</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:178.120.54.237&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:178.120.54.237 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-178.120.54.237-20231118090400-JBW-20231108171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 18 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-178.120.54.237-20231118090400-JBW-20231108171500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-178.120.54.237-20231118090400-JBW-20231108171500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Admin_accountability" data-mw-thread-id="h-Admin_accountability-20231129164000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Admin_accountability-20231129164000"></span>Admin accountability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Admin_accountability-20231129164000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20231129164000-Admin_accountability"></span>Hi Tamzin, just came by a philosophical discussion more than anything and to say thank you for your feedback in your guide. Yours was the first one to be published with substantive commentary on the candidates and up to that point it had felt a bit like typing into a black hole! I think we agree on more than disagree on. I'm very strongly in favour of admin accountability. I'd like to see it become slightly easier to become an admin, much easier to git rid of a problem admin, and for a desysop to not be a permanent stain on an editor's record that means they'd probably never pass an RfA again. I'd love to see a community-based desysop process for removing admins who have lost the community's trust or confidence, and I'd love to have a venue like XRV that had teeth to censure. I just think the whole meatpuppetry case was handled rather clumsily. All ArbCom had to do was say "for policy purposes, these two editors can be treated as one" (which is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SHARE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SHARE">black-letter law</a>) at the outset. The community could have handled the rest. From what I've seen, these were two editors who were trying to do what they thought was the right thing for Wikipedia, even if they were on the wrong side of policy. I think it's important to remember (cf. my comments about YellowMonkey in response to my most-recent question) that we're humans behind the usernames and even admins who have made even severe misjudgements are still people who have given thousands of hours to make Wikipedia better. We may have to discipline them for The Greater Good™ but we should try to be compassionate while we do it. Anyway, you're a great admin and I respect your opinion and won't hold it against you if you oppose me. I don't expect you to change your mind, just wanted to share my thought process. All the best, <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-HJ_Mitchell-20231129164000-Admin_accountability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20231129164000-Admin_accountability"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20231129164000-Admin_accountability"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirect-20231129220900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirect-20231129220900"></span>Redirect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirect-20231129220900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XMcan-20231129220900-Redirect"></span>Hi, the page I mentioned in my comments no longer exists. Could you please create a redirect from <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/_Sennalen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/_Sennalen</a> to <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sennalen">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sennalen</a> ? Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:XMcan" title="User:XMcan">XMcan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XMcan" title="User talk:XMcan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-XMcan-20231129220900-Redirect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XMcan-20231129220900-Redirect"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XMcan-20231129220900-Redirect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231129222200-XMcan-20231129220900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:XMcan" title="User:XMcan">XMcan</a>: We usually don't do redirects from invalid titles at SPI, but that's why <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187524388" title="Special:Diff/1187524388">I edited your comment</a> when I moved the page. <code>:)</code> P.S. You can link to Wikipedia pages <a href="/wiki/Help:Linking" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Linking">using [[square brackets]]</a>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231129222200-XMcan-20231129220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231129222200-XMcan-20231129220900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231129222200-XMcan-20231129220900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XMcan-20231129222800-Tamzin-20231129222200"></span>Perfect, I'm happy when everything works ;))) <a href="/wiki/User:XMcan" title="User:XMcan">XMcan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XMcan" title="User talk:XMcan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-XMcan-20231129222800-Tamzin-20231129222200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XMcan-20231129222800-Tamzin-20231129222200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XMcan-20231129222800-Tamzin-20231129222200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AE_word_limit" data-mw-thread-id="h-AE_word_limit-20231130180800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AE_word_limit-20231130180800"></span>AE word limit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AE_word_limit-20231130180800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ජපස-20231130180800-AE_word_limit"></span>Hi! Should I shunt off my collapsed section elsewhere off the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">WP:AE</a>? I thought that I should try to illustrate the problem for the admins that I see, but I'm not sure if this PvP is helpful as an illustrative matter or not. Without the section, I'm well-below 500 words. With the section, I am well over. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User:ජපස">jps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User talk:ජපස">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-ජපස-20231130180800-AE_word_limit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ජපස-20231130180800-AE_word_limit"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ජපස-20231130180800-AE_word_limit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ජපස-20231130180900-ජපස-20231130180800"></span>One option would be to start a section on my usertalkpage, for example, and link there just to make things prettier. Seems a little silly in terms of rule following, but I want to make the situation as easy as possible for people who want/need to follow it to follow it. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User:ජපස">jps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User talk:ජපස">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-ජපස-20231130180900-ජපස-20231130180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ජපස-20231130180900-ජපස-20231130180800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ජපස-20231130180900-ජපස-20231130180800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231130181100-ජපස-20231130180800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User:ජපස">ජපස</a>: I think it's fine collapsed, as long as you understand that, collapsed, some might not read it. Either way, you're "only" at ~160% the limit, while Sennalen is approaching 300%, and I try to be even-handed on word limit. If you have more to say, we can discuss an extension, but again, fine for now. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231130181100-ජපස-20231130180800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231130181100-ජපස-20231130180800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231130181100-ජපස-20231130180800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ජපස-20231130181500-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span>I am hopeful that this may be the end of it. I am fine with people skipping the section as I think it should really only be relevant for those with a keen interest in the sausage-making/inside-baseball of these matters. If I think there may be cause to expand, I'll ask your advice, if you don't mind. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User:ජපස">jps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%B6%A2%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%83" title="User talk:ජපස">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-ජපස-20231130181500-Tamzin-20231130181100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ජපස-20231130181500-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ජපස-20231130181500-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sennalen-20231130185400-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span>I don't know of anything else I might need to say, but as more and more people excavate old diffs to accuse me of different things, I reiterate that there is too much for me to respond to under the current procedural vehicle. I encourage you to join the conversation on my Talk page about whether I have any improper PoV. <a href="/wiki/User:Sennalen" title="User:Sennalen">Sennalen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sennalen" title="User talk:Sennalen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Sennalen-20231130185400-Tamzin-20231130181100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 30 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sennalen-20231130185400-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sennalen-20231130185400-Tamzin-20231130181100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sennalen-20231201035400-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin">Tamzin</a>:</span> If it's alright, I would like to reply to Rjjiii, <blockquote class="quote-frame pullquote" style="font-size: 95%; padding: 0.5em 2em; background-color: var( --background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa ); color: var( --color-base, black ); border: 1px solid #aaa; display:table; float:none;"><div style="padding: 0.6em 1em;">((re Rjjiii)), Lab leak and zoonotic theories are not equally likely. "Unknown" is the language of several sources and is not principally about lab leaks - but rather uncertain aspects of timing, intermediate host, etc. Jps and I are having a more fruitful exchange along these lines on the article talk page, which I invite you to join.</div></blockquote> Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Sennalen" title="User:Sennalen">Sennalen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sennalen" title="User talk:Sennalen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Sennalen-20231201035400-Sennalen-20231130185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sennalen-20231201035400-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sennalen-20231201035400-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231201040200-Sennalen-20231201035400"></span>I do not think that this comment will help admins reach a decision in the thread, especially after so much has already been written, so I am declining this request for an extension. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231201040200-Sennalen-20231201035400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231201040200-Sennalen-20231201035400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231201040200-Sennalen-20231201035400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sennalen-20231201043100-Tamzin-20231201040200"></span>Okay. Would it be procedurally inappropriate to leave it on his talk page then? I really just want to invite him to the conversation. <a href="/wiki/User:Sennalen" title="User:Sennalen">Sennalen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sennalen" title="User talk:Sennalen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Sennalen-20231201043100-Tamzin-20231201040200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sennalen-20231201043100-Tamzin-20231201040200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sennalen-20231201043100-Tamzin-20231201040200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231201044500-Sennalen-20231201043100"></span>There's no rule against talking through other channels, although that's not to say I recommend it, just that it's allowed. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231201044500-Sennalen-20231201043100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231201044500-Sennalen-20231201043100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231201044500-Sennalen-20231201043100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sennalen-20231201133900-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span>This may have more bearing on helping weigh the evidence: I would like to remind everyone, <blockquote class="quote-frame pullquote" style="font-size: 95%; padding: 0.5em 2em; background-color: var( --background-color-neutral-subtle, #f8f9fa ); color: var( --color-base, black ); border: 1px solid #aaa; display:table; float:none;"><div style="padding: 0.6em 1em;"> Documented consensus<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Origin_of_COVID-19">[4]</a> is there is <b>no consensus</b> that lab leak is a conspiracy theory (#1) and that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The consensus of scientists is that SARS-CoV-2 is <b>likely</b> of zoonotic origin.</q> (#4). What I support and others oppose is the presence of the word "likely" there, and in this matter I am on the side of consensus. (It's true I once considered lab origin very likely; however my current assessment is only that it is plausible.)</div></blockquote></dd> <dd>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Sennalen" title="User:Sennalen">Sennalen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sennalen" title="User talk:Sennalen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Sennalen-20231201133900-Sennalen-20231130185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sennalen-20231201133900-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sennalen-20231201133900-Sennalen-20231130185400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"></span>A mini-project to improve rcat templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates"></span>If you're ever looking for a new project, I think it would be very helpful for categorizing redirects if more redirect category templates could take a parameter to define the term the redirect is a modifcation from, for use with redirects that are modifications of other redirects (i.e. are avoided double redirects) and can be used along with the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_avoided_double_redirect" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R from avoided double redirect">R from avoided double redirect</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template. For example, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_alternative_name" title="Template:R from alternative name">R from alternative name</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> allows one to put the more common name after a pipe (parameter 1) in cases where it is different from the title of the redirect target, or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_other_capitalization" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R from other capitalization">R from other capitalization</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> allows one to indicate the form with other capitalization after two pipes because that template is coded differently. <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_alternative_spelling" title="Template:R from alternative spelling">R from alternative spelling</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> also takes a parameter after a single pipe. Rcats that don't seem to have this functionality include <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_plural" title="Template:R from plural">R from plural</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_singular" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:R from singular">R from singular</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_long_name" title="Template:R from long name">R from long name</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_ASCII-only" title="Template:R from ASCII-only">R from ASCII-only</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_initialism" title="Template:R from initialism">R from initialism</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_acronym" title="Template:R from acronym">R from acronym</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and likely others. Should be fairly simple to modify the templates, but you seem far more suited for template editing than me! Let me know what you think. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Mdewman6" title="User:Mdewman6">Mdewman6</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mdewman6" title="User talk:Mdewman6">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z-A_mini-project_to_improve_rcat_templates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20220726214300-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mdewman6" title="User:Mdewman6">Mdewman6</a>:</span> That does seem like a good project. I've got a full plate of technical projects right now, but maybe <a href="/wiki/User:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User:1234qwer1234qwer4">1234qwer1234qwer4</a> wants to take a stab? <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A;">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup>[<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A;">cetacean needed</span></a></i>]</sup> (she|they|xe)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20220726214300-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20220726214300-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20220726214300-Mdewman6-2022-06-08T00:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet-20231202220500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet-20231202220500"></span>Another apparent NeuroSex sockpuppet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet-20231202220500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/IntroEggplant"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keyhound-20231202220500-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet"></span>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/IntroEggplant</a> </p><p>Thanks for anything you can do to investigate and prevent further abuse. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Keyhound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Keyhound (page does not exist)">Keyhound</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keyhound" title="User talk:Keyhound">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Keyhound-20231202220500-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 2 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keyhound-20231202220500-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keyhound-20231202220500-Another_apparent_NeuroSex_sockpuppet"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_friendly_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_friendly_request-20231203123400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_friendly_request-20231203123400"></span>A friendly request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_friendly_request-20231203123400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400-A_friendly_request"></span>Hello, Tamzin. I hope you're doing well. In your closing comment to that AN discussion <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ereyesterday" class="extiw" title="wikt:ereyesterday">ereyesterday</a>, you said: "I've always tried to be an editor who's a leftist, not a leftist editor. It saddens me that some others are seemingly unable to draw that distinction for themselves." Hearing this from you gave me pause as, in context, this to me feels more like an attack on the characters of editors (including me) who differed from you, than a contribution to the debate on the issue at hand. Now that that discussion has more or less concluded, would you consider retracting that remark? Kind regards, <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- <a href="/wiki/User:Maddy_from_Celeste" title="User:Maddy from Celeste">Maddy from Celeste</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maddy_from_Celeste" title="User talk:Maddy from Celeste">WAVEDASH</a>)</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400-A_friendly_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400-A_friendly_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400-A_friendly_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231203214900-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:Maddy_from_Celeste" title="User:Maddy from Celeste">Maddy from Celeste</a>. I've considered your request. Given that multiple editors cited explicitly political rationales for their stances in that thread, I do not think it was inappropriate to criticize, in general terms and without naming names, editors who were putting their political views ahead of the encyclopedia's interests. There's more I could say, but I said I was done with that thread, so I'm going to stick to that and continue working on building an encyclopedia. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231203214900-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231203214900-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231203214900-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203123400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203222800-Tamzin-20231203214900"></span>Thank you for your reply. Looking at that thread, I think <i>multiple</i> is an overstatement. In any case, it's good to know you presumably weren't referencing me. I would contend that, as evident here, such general criticisms may be liable to misinterpretation. Best, <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- <a href="/wiki/User:Maddy_from_Celeste" title="User:Maddy from Celeste">Maddy from Celeste</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maddy_from_Celeste" title="User talk:Maddy from Celeste">WAVEDASH</a>)</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203222800-Tamzin-20231203214900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203222800-Tamzin-20231203214900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maddy_from_Celeste-20231203222800-Tamzin-20231203214900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA-20231206093800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA-20231206093800"></span>Non-EC user creating articles in ARABPIA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA-20231206093800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dovidroth-20231206093800-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA"></span>Hi Tamzin. The following articles in ARABPIA were recently created by a non-EC user. Could you please delete them? (I put up a deletion template, but this shouldn't need to wait 7 days ... if you are not the correct address, can please you tell me where to turn?). </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=Report_of_the_Secretary-General%E2%80%99s_Panel_of_Inquiry_on_the_31_May_2010_Flotilla_Incident_(July_2011)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry on the 31 May 2010 Flotilla Incident (July 2011) (page does not exist)">Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry on the 31 May 2010 Flotilla Incident (July 2011)</a> </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=The_palmer_report&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="The palmer report (page does not exist)">The palmer report</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Brokers_of_Deceit:_How_the_U.S._Has_Undermined_Peace_in_the_Middle_East" title="Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East">Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Lieutenant_Hadar_Goldin" class="mw-redirect" title="Lieutenant Hadar Goldin">Lieutenant Hadar Goldin</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Black_Friday_(bombing_campaign)" title="Black Friday (bombing campaign)">Black Friday (bombing campaign)</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/2014_Bombing_of_Rafah" class="mw-redirect" title="2014 Bombing of Rafah">2014 Bombing of Rafah</a> </p><p>Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dovidroth" title="User:Dovidroth">Dovidroth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dovidroth" title="User talk:Dovidroth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Dovidroth-20231206093800-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dovidroth-20231206093800-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dovidroth-20231206093800-Non-EC_user_creating_articles_in_ARABPIA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231206172700-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span>Hi Dovid. I won't have much bandwidth for admin work for at least a few days, but I'll ping @<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> as a <a href="/wiki/Pinch_hitter" title="Pinch hitter">pinch hitter</a>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231206172700-Dovidroth-20231206093800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:27, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231206172700-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231206172700-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206173300-Tamzin-20231206172700"></span>I left the editor my fancy ARBPIA welcome and a CTOP alert. I'll look into it further this evening. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206173300-Tamzin-20231206172700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206173300-Tamzin-20231206172700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206173300-Tamzin-20231206172700"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20231206173200-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span>Id ask you or SFR move <a href="/wiki/Brokers_of_Deceit:_How_the_U.S._Has_Undermined_Peace_in_the_Middle_East" title="Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East">Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East</a> and <a href="/wiki/Black_Friday_(bombing_campaign)" title="Black Friday (bombing campaign)">Black Friday (bombing campaign)</a> to draft space instead of delete, as I would take responsibility for both of those if necessary, just want to more fully review both sets of citations, but I do know both are definitely notable topics. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nableezy-20231206173200-Dovidroth-20231206093800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20231206173200-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20231206173200-Dovidroth-20231206093800"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500-Nableezy-20231206173200"></span>Nableezy</a>, I'm willing to just leave them in mainspace.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Dovidroth" title="User:Dovidroth">Dovidroth</a>, the article on the lieutenant is already at AfD, so I'll let the community decide on that. I've deleted <a href="/w/index.php?title=Report_of_the_Secretary-General%E2%80%99s_Panel_of_Inquiry_on_the_31_May_2010_Flotilla_Incident_(July_2011)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry on the 31 May 2010 Flotilla Incident (July 2011) (page does not exist)">Report of the Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry on the 31 May 2010 Flotilla Incident (July 2011)</a> as it has no substantial contributions from ECR editors. The others have been converted to redirects, so I'll leave them. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500-Nableezy-20231206173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500-Nableezy-20231206173200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500-Nableezy-20231206173200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dovidroth-20231207060300-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500"></span>Ok, thank you. Is there something that we can to prevent this type of thing from happening in the future? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dovidroth" title="User:Dovidroth">Dovidroth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dovidroth" title="User talk:Dovidroth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Dovidroth-20231207060300-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dovidroth-20231207060300-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dovidroth-20231207060300-ScottishFinnishRadish-20231206185500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lizthegrey-20231207060800-Dovidroth-20231207060300"></span>There is not, because we can't proactively salt every prospective page title relating to ARBPIA. <a href="/wiki/User:Lizthegrey" title="User:Lizthegrey">lizthegrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lizthegrey" title="User talk:Lizthegrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Lizthegrey-20231207060800-Dovidroth-20231207060300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lizthegrey-20231207060800-Dovidroth-20231207060300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lizthegrey-20231207060800-Dovidroth-20231207060300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex-20231207020200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex-20231207020200"></span>Yet another sockpuppet of Neurosex<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex-20231207020200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keyhound-20231207020200-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex"></span>Second one in a week. </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deliganist">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deliganist</a> </p><p>Please investigate, and remove the suspect content. Thank you for your help. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Keyhound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Keyhound (page does not exist)">Keyhound</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keyhound" title="User talk:Keyhound">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Keyhound-20231207020200-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keyhound-20231207020200-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keyhound-20231207020200-Yet_another_sockpuppet_of_Neurosex"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span class="plainlinks cuEntry"><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:IntroEggplant"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231207031000-Keyhound-20231207020200"></span>IntroEggplant</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IntroEggplant" title="User talk:IntroEggplant">talk</a><sup><span style="font-size: 120%;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AIntroEggplant&action=edit&section=new"><span style="color: grey;">+</span></a></span></sup> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AIntroEggplant&preload=Template%3ACheckuser%2FPreload&preloadparams%5B%5D=%3C%21--+insert+sock+master+here+--%3E&action=edit">tag</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/IntroEggplant" title="Special:Contributions/IntroEggplant">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/IntroEggplant" title="Special:DeletedContributions/IntroEggplant">deleted contribs</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=IntroEggplant">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=IntroEggplant">filter log</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/IntroEggplant" title="Special:Block/IntroEggplant">block user</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AIntroEggplant">block log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/IntroEggplant" class="extiw" title="m:Special:CentralAuth/IntroEggplant">CA</a><span class="cuLink checkuser-show"> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUser&user=IntroEggplant">CheckUser</a>(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUserLog&cuSearch=IntroEggplant">log</a>) <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AInvestigate&targets=IntroEggplant">investigate</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?ns2=1&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns14=1&search=IntroEggplant">cuwiki</a></span>)</span></li> <li><span class="plainlinks cuEntry"><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deliganist">Deliganist</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deliganist" title="User talk:Deliganist">talk</a><sup><span style="font-size: 120%;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADeliganist&action=edit&section=new"><span style="color: grey;">+</span></a></span></sup> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ADeliganist&preload=Template%3ACheckuser%2FPreload&preloadparams%5B%5D=%3C%21--+insert+sock+master+here+--%3E&action=edit">tag</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deliganist" title="Special:Contributions/Deliganist">contribs</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Deliganist" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Deliganist">deleted contribs</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=Deliganist">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Deliganist">filter log</a><span class="sysop-show"> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Deliganist" title="Special:Block/Deliganist">block user</a></span> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ADeliganist">block log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Deliganist" class="extiw" title="m:Special:CentralAuth/Deliganist">CA</a><span class="cuLink checkuser-show"> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUser&user=Deliganist">CheckUser</a>(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACheckUserLog&cuSearch=Deliganist">log</a>) <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AInvestigate&targets=Deliganist">investigate</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://checkuser.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?ns2=1&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns14=1&search=Deliganist">cuwiki</a></span>)</span></li></ul></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Firefly" title="User:Firefly">Firefly</a> or @<a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a>: Are you able to take a look at these? Behaviorally it's spot-on and I'd probably block on that alone, but may be worth a check. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231207031000-Keyhound-20231207020200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231207031000-Keyhound-20231207020200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231207031000-Keyhound-20231207020200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firefly-20231207133800-Tamzin-20231207031000"></span>The two above are <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/16px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/24px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/32px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Confirmed</b> to each other, and reasonably likely to NS on behaviour and technical evidence combined. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png/16px-Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png/24px-Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png/32px-Nuvola_apps_remote_green.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></span></span> <b>No sleepers <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PIXIEDUST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PIXIEDUST">immediately visible</a></b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefly" title="User:Firefly"><span style="color:#850808;">firefly</span></a> <small>( <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefly" title="User talk:Firefly">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefly" title="Special:Contributions/Firefly">c</a> )</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Firefly-20231207133800-Tamzin-20231207031000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firefly-20231207133800-Tamzin-20231207031000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firefly-20231207133800-Tamzin-20231207031000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fashions_by_decade_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fashions_by_decade_articles-20231207192700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fashions_by_decade_articles-20231207192700"></span>Fashions by decade articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fashions_by_decade_articles-20231207192700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700-Fashions_by_decade_articles"></span>I really want the early and mid sections of these articles to change, for example, in the article <a href="/wiki/2000s_in_fashion" title="2000s in fashion">2000s in fashion</a>, the sections Early 2000s (2000-2002) are changed to Early 2000s (2000-2003) and Mid 2000s (2003-2006) to Mid 2000s (2004-2006). It just does not seem right to me and other editors here. Is there a way to change or to convince the change? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Autisticeditor_20" title="User:Autisticeditor 20">Autisticeditor 20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Autisticeditor_20" title="User talk:Autisticeditor 20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700-Fashions_by_decade_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700-Fashions_by_decade_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700-Fashions_by_decade_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231214201000-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Autisticeditor_20" title="User:Autisticeditor 20">Autisticeditor 20</a>: You can start a discussion on the article's talk page and build <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a>, but frankly this does not seem to me a good use of editorial resources. See <a href="/wiki/Bikeshed_problem" class="mw-redirect" title="Bikeshed problem">bikeshed problem</a>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231214201000-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231214201000-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231214201000-Autisticeditor_20-20231207192700"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="0RR_in_effect" data-mw-thread-id="h-0RR_in_effect-20231211013300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-0RR_in_effect-20231211013300"></span>0RR in effect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-0RR_in_effect-20231211013300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3Kingdoms-20231211013300-0RR_in_effect"></span>Hello hope all is well. I am writing because I wished to know, since it has been more than 3 months, if my 0rr for the Israel-Palestine conflict be removed? Thank you and have a good day. <a href="/wiki/User:3Kingdoms" title="User:3Kingdoms">3Kingdoms</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3Kingdoms" title="User talk:3Kingdoms">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-3Kingdoms-20231211013300-0RR_in_effect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3Kingdoms-20231211013300-0RR_in_effect"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3Kingdoms-20231211013300-0RR_in_effect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231214200300-3Kingdoms-20231211013300"></span>Hi @<a href="/wiki/User:3Kingdoms" title="User:3Kingdoms">3Kingdoms</a>. Well, as noted on your usertalk, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1185347119" title="Special:Diff/1185347119">Special:Diff/1185347119</a> was a 0RR violation, but you handled it amicably with <a href="/wiki/User:Starship.paint" title="User:Starship.paint">Starship.paint</a>, who then wished you luck in getting the 0RR lifted. I said in August that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">I would be prepared to lift at the 3-month mark as long as there has been no disruption in the preceding 3 months and you have been reasonably active</q>, and I'm not prepared to call that one-off incident "disruption"; meanwhile you <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec-monthcounts/en.wikipedia.org/3Kingdoms">meet</a> the "reasonably active" criterion. If this was a matter of going from 0RR all the way to 3RR, I might be more hesitant, but, as discussed in the original AE appeal, this whole topic area is under 1RR regardless, so this is only a moderate step down. So, sure, I hereby lift the sanction. Please make sure to abide by the 1RR and other <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">CTOP</a> norms and restrictions. All the best and happy <winter holiday of your choice>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231214200300-3Kingdoms-20231211013300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231214200300-3Kingdoms-20231211013300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231214200300-3Kingdoms-20231211013300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-3Kingdoms-20231218142300-Tamzin-20231214200300"></span>Happy to hear! Thank you very much! Happy Holidays to you too! <a href="/wiki/User:3Kingdoms" title="User:3Kingdoms">3Kingdoms</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:3Kingdoms" title="User talk:3Kingdoms">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-3Kingdoms-20231218142300-Tamzin-20231214200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-3Kingdoms-20231218142300-Tamzin-20231214200300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-3Kingdoms-20231218142300-Tamzin-20231214200300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AvinashCabral_Sock" data-mw-thread-id="h-AvinashCabral_Sock-20231212114300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AvinashCabral_Sock-20231212114300"></span>AvinashCabral Sock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AvinashCabral_Sock-20231212114300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231214200800-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1235781174">.mw-parser-output .hmbox-outer{margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .hmbox-inner{display:inline-block;color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);margin-right:0.5em;padding:0.3em 0.5em}</style><div role="note" class="hmbox-outer resolved"><div class="hmbox-inner"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/40px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> Resolved</div> – <span style="font-size: 85%">Blocked by Izno <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231214200800-AvinashCabral_Sock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231214200800-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231214200800-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DSP2092-20231212114300-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span>Please look into it as you have previously blocked his sock, it's look like a duck. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/AvinashCabral" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AvinashCabral">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AvinashCabral</a> <b><span style="color:#0080FB">DSP</span><span style="color:#0668E1">2092</span></b> (<a href="/wiki/User:DSP2092" title="User:DSP2092">👤</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:DSP2092" title="User talk:DSP2092">🗨️</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-DSP2092-20231212114300-AvinashCabral_Sock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DSP2092-20231212114300-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DSP2092-20231212114300-AvinashCabral_Sock"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Another_NeuroSex_sock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_NeuroSex_sock-20231214163500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Another_NeuroSex_sock-20231214163500"></span>Another NeuroSex sock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Another_NeuroSex_sock-20231214163500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keyhound-20231214163500-Another_NeuroSex_sock"></span>Hi Tamzin, </p><p>Hope all is well. Sorry to be a bother, but here's yet another NeuroSex sockpuppet account: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HeavyWheeler">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HeavyWheeler</a> </p><p>This is approximately NeuroSex's 89th known account. </p><p>"NeuroSex" continues to repeatedly post misleading/incorrect information with impunity using illicit sockpuppets. Unfortunately, even when such sockpuppet accounts are banned, their edits often remain. Wikipedia admins choosing to leave the sockpuppets' edits up creates a powerful incentive for NeuroSex to continue their course of conduct of posting disinformation. </p><p>Can anything be done to clean this situation up? </p><p>Thanks so much for your time. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Keyhound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Keyhound (page does not exist)">Keyhound</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keyhound" title="User talk:Keyhound">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Keyhound-20231214163500-Another_NeuroSex_sock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keyhound-20231214163500-Another_NeuroSex_sock"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keyhound-20231214163500-Another_NeuroSex_sock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231214195400-Keyhound-20231214163500"></span>Hi Keyhound, sorry for the slow follow-up on the last thread, haven't had much time for Wikipedia. But I'd like to see this batch through at least. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Firefly" title="User:Firefly">Firefly</a>:</span> Mind taking a look again? Once this is resolved I'm inclined to throw around some AE protections. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231214195400-Keyhound-20231214163500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231214195400-Keyhound-20231214163500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231214195400-Keyhound-20231214163500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firefly-20231214220400-Tamzin-20231214195400"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/16px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/24px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Symbol_confirmed.svg/32px-Symbol_confirmed.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Confirmed</b> to the last two reported here. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg/18px-Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg/27px-Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg/36px-Candidato-Art%C3%ADculo_bueno-blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Blocked without tags</b>. Closing. ;) <a href="/wiki/User:Firefly" title="User:Firefly"><span style="color:#850808;">firefly</span></a> <small>( <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefly" title="User talk:Firefly">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefly" title="Special:Contributions/Firefly">c</a> )</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Firefly-20231214220400-Tamzin-20231214195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firefly-20231214220400-Tamzin-20231214195400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firefly-20231214220400-Tamzin-20231214195400"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20231214225900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page watcher</a>)</small> @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Keyhound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Keyhound (page does not exist)">Keyhound</a>, I’ve reverted the edits of that user per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BANREVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BANREVERT">WP:BANREVERT</a>. Best, <sup style="letter-spacing:-.1em;color:#737373;font-family:monospace">user:</sup><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#ff8352"><b>A smart kitten</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten"><sub style="color:#b842b8;font-family:monospace"><i>meow</i></sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-A_smart_kitten-20231214225900-Firefly-20231214220400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20231214225900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20231214225900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231215165900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span>Thanks, Firefly. I've given a 5-year CTOP semi to the Wilson article and, with some regret, 1-year semis to both affected talkpages. This has been going on for 6 years and shows no signs of stopping without intervention. NeuroSex has no shortage of better things to do with their time; hopefully this pushes them in that direction. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231215165900-Firefly-20231214220400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 15 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231215165900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231215165900-Firefly-20231214220400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu-20231222171500"><span id="Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion.2FLog.2F2023_December_13.23List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu-20231222171500"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 13#List of Commonly Used Queer Acronyms</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu-20231222171500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tavix-20231222171500-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu"></span>Something about the closure of <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_Commonly_Used_Queer_Acronyms&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of Commonly Used Queer Acronyms (page does not exist)">List of Commonly Used Queer Acronyms</a> isn't sitting right with me. Not enough to exclaim "you've got it wrong!" but enough where I'd like to get it off my chest. Specifically, it's because <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> actually never objected to the deletion of the content itself, rather the objection was purely jurisdictional—wanting it at AfD instead. Even after prodding him to give a rationale for keeping the content, he couldn't do it. Because there is no one wanting to improve the content, draftifying doesn't actually do anything. It'll just rot in draftspace for six months and then get unceremoniously G13'd. I'd much rather have seen it deleted outright, perhaps with a comment that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REFUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REFUND">WP:REFUND</a> to draftspace applies if someone wants to work on it. That way the problem doesn't just get pushed six months down the road unless there's someone explicitly putting their name to it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tavix" title="User:Tavix"> <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia"><b>T</b>avix</span></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tavix" title="User talk:Tavix"><span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tavix-20231222171500-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tavix-20231222171500-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tavix-20231222171500-Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_13#List_of_Commonly_Used_Qu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231222192400-Tavix-20231222171500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tavix" title="User:Tavix">Tavix</a>: I considered that approach too. Ultimately what I felt was, for a non-controversial deletion of content, all that's needed to restore to draftspace is an editor in good standing saying "This shouldn't be deleted", and we had that. As I noted in the close, anyone can move it back to mainspace if they want, and the next step would be AfD. It's just that restoring it outright seemed unlikely to improve the encyclopedia, due to the current state of the page. I don't think it's a given that it will "rot in draftspace", though. I mean, it may well, but it's also possible someone will take interest. I don't think <a href="/wiki/List_of_LGBT_acronyms" class="mw-redirect" title="List of LGBT acronyms">List of LGBT acronyms</a> would be an obviously invalid list, or someone could create a broader-concept article like <a href="/w/index.php?title=Acronyms_in_LGBT_culture&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Acronyms in LGBT culture (page does not exist)">Acronyms in LGBT culture</a>, or add content to <a href="/wiki/LGBT_slang" class="mw-redirect" title="LGBT slang">LGBT slang</a>, or make an article out of the redirect <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glossary_of_LGBT_terms&redirect=no">Glossary of LGBT terms</a></span>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231222192400-Tavix-20231222171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231222192400-Tavix-20231222171500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231222192400-Tavix-20231222171500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mismatching_socks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mismatching_socks-20231223223700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mismatching_socks-20231223223700"></span>Mismatching socks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mismatching_socks-20231223223700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pbritti-20231223223700-Mismatching_socks"></span>Early in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/KlayCax" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KlayCax">KlayCax SPI</a>, we both ruled out <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:StardustToStardust">StardustToStardust</a></span> as a sock of KC. However, I think my judgement was wrong in not tying them to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ShirtNShoesPls">ShirtNShoesPls</a></span>. The SNSP account was created several hours after STS was blocked from <a href="/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election" title="2024 United States presidential election">2024 United States presidential election</a>, an article both editors overlap on. On <a href="/wiki/Talk:Pope_Francis" title="Talk:Pope Francis">Talk:Pope Francis</a>, both accounts took an identical view on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Pope_Francis" title="Talk:Pope Francis">Talk:Pope Francis</a>, parroting the term <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">sophist</q> across talk pages (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fiducia_supplicans&diff=prev&oldid=1191137443">STS</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pope_Francis&diff=prev&oldid=1191045025">SNSP</a>). Like SNSP, STS is very familiar with <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1186296701">RFC nomenclature</a></span>. Additionally, both editors exhibit American editing hours (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/StardustToStardust">STS</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/ShirtNShoesPls">SNSP</a>). Both use asterisks to accentuate words in edit summaries (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fiducia_supplicans&diff=prev&oldid=1191146427">STS</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fiducia_supplicans&diff=prev&oldid=1191129108">SNSP</a>). As I mentioned with another editor, both STS and SNSP follow a similar naming convention. Am I seeing patterns where there are none? I feel awful for putting this on KC, as I really don't think this is their fault, particularly with the fairly definitive CU. ~ <a href="/wiki/User:Pbritti" title="User:Pbritti">Pbritti</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pbritti" title="User talk:Pbritti">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pbritti-20231223223700-Mismatching_socks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pbritti-20231223223700-Mismatching_socks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pbritti-20231223223700-Mismatching_socks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231231004800-Pbritti-20231223223700"></span>Thinking on this, Prbitti. Thanks. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231231004800-Pbritti-20231223223700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231231004800-Pbritti-20231223223700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231231004800-Pbritti-20231223223700"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_solstice_greeting" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_solstice_greeting-20231224070500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_solstice_greeting-20231224070500"></span>A solstice greeting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_solstice_greeting-20231224070500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="display: flex; justify-content: center; align-items: center; margin-top:15px"> <div style="border:2px solid gold; box-shadow: 0 1px 3px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC 0%,#F5F5F5 100%); text-align:center; padding:24px; border-radius:7px; width:75%; line-height:2em;"> <p><span style="font-size:2em; font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; color:navy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20231224070500-A_solstice_greeting"></span>❄️<span style="padding-left:1.0em;"> </span><b>Happy holidays!</b><span style="padding-left:1.0em;"> </span>❄️</span> </p> <span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#202122;">Hi Tamzin! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. It was great to see you in Toronto, and hoping we'll have more opportunities to hang out in the coming year! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>Cheers,<br/><span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Sdkb</b></span></a></span><small>}}</small></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup></span> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1062633282">@media all and (max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .content .thumb>div:not(.thumbinner){display:flex;justify-content:center;flex-wrap:wrap;align-content:flex-start;flex-direction:column}}body.skin-vector .mw-parser-output div.thumb>div:not(.thumbinner){font-size:94%;text-align:center;overflow:hidden;min-width:100px}body.skin-minerva .mw-parser-output div.thumb>div:not(.thumbinner){margin:0 auto;max-width:100%!important}</style> <div class="center"> <div class="thumb tnone"> <div style="display:table;width:512px;"> <span typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Solstice Celebration for Tamzin, 2023, DALL·E 3. (View full series) Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies."><img alt="Solstice Celebration for Tamzin, 2023, DALL·E 3. (View full series) Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg/512px-Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg" decoding="async" width="512" height="512" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg/768px-Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_winterscape_82.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span><div class="thumbcaption" style="display:table-caption;caption-side:bottom;box-sizing:border-box;"><span style="line-height:2em; color:#202122;"><i>Solstice Celebration for Tamzin</i>, 2023, <a href="/wiki/DALL%C2%B7E_3" class="mw-redirect" title="DALL·E 3">DALL·E 3</a>.<div style="float:right;">(<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:AI-generated_winterscapes_with_Wikipedia-esque_globes" class="extiw" title="commons:Category:AI-generated winterscapes with Wikipedia-esque globes">View full series</a>)</div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239334494">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output div:not(.notheme)>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output p>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output table:not(.notheme) .tmp-color{color:inherit!important}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output div:not(.notheme)>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output p>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output table:not(.notheme) .tmp-color{color:inherit!important}}</style><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#72777d">Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, <a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-esque_globe_in_a_desert_landscape.jpg" title="File:Wikipedia-esque globe in a desert landscape.jpg"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: #72777d; text-decoration: inherit;"><u>oops, apologies</u></span></a>.</span></span> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> </div> <p><span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Sdkb</b></span></a></span><small>}}</small></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Sdkb-20231224070500-A_solstice_greeting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20231224070500-A_solstice_greeting"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20231224070500-A_solstice_greeting"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yo_Ho_Ho" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-20231224112100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-20231224112100"></span>Yo Ho Ho<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yo_Ho_Ho-20231224112100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StarTrekker-20231224112100-Yo_Ho_Ho"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG/100px-Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG/150px-Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG/200px-Le_Tene_Stone_Fuerty.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1273" data-file-height="1273"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen,_The_Burren,_Co_Clare,_3,_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_(2)-2.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg/67px-20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg" decoding="async" width="67" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg/101px-20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg/134px-20150610-Milky_Way_Photo_of_Poulnabrone_Dolmen%2C_The_Burren%2C_Co_Clare%2C_3%2C_Pic_by_Frank_Chandler_%282%29-2.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3255" data-file-height="4835"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:StarTrekker" title="User:StarTrekker">★Trekker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StarTrekker" title="User talk:StarTrekker">talk</a>) is wishing you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">Seasons Greetings</a>! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's <a href="/wiki/Solstice" title="Solstice">Solstice</a> or <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Christmas</a>, <a href="/wiki/Diwali" title="Diwali">Diwali</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hogmanay" title="Hogmanay">Hogmanay</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hanukkah" title="Hanukkah">Hanukkah</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lenaia" title="Lenaia">Lenaia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Festivus" title="Festivus">Festivus</a> or even the <a href="/wiki/Saturnalia" title="Saturnalia">Saturnalia</a>, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! <br/> </p><p><small>Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUBST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUBST">subst</a>:<a href="/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15c" title="User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15c">User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15c</a>}} to your friends' talk pages</small>. </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:StarTrekker" title="User:StarTrekker">★Trekker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StarTrekker" title="User talk:StarTrekker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-StarTrekker-20231224112100-Yo_Ho_Ho" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StarTrekker-20231224112100-Yo_Ho_Ho"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StarTrekker-20231224112100-Yo_Ho_Ho"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seasons_Greetings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seasons_Greetings-20231224151400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seasons_Greetings-20231224151400"></span>Seasons Greetings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seasons_Greetings-20231224151400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 6px solid #FF4646; background-color:#46CB18;"> <tbody><tr> <td align="left"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Xmastreenewyork06.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Xmastreenewyork06.jpg/225px-Xmastreenewyork06.jpg" decoding="async" width="225" height="245" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Xmastreenewyork06.jpg/338px-Xmastreenewyork06.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Xmastreenewyork06.jpg/450px-Xmastreenewyork06.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1139" data-file-height="1242"/></a></span> </td> <td align="center"><b style="color:red"><i style="font-size:large">Merry Christmas, Tamzin/Archive!</i><br/> Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. <a href="/wiki/User:Onel5969" title="User:Onel5969"><b><span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onel5969" title="User talk:Onel5969"><i style="color:blue">TT me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a></b><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings"></span> </td> <td align="right"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg/225px-Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg" decoding="async" width="225" height="319" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg/338px-Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Spirit_of_Christmas.jpg 2x" data-file-width="430" data-file-height="610"/></a></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Onel5969" title="User:Onel5969"><b><span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onel5969" title="User talk:Onel5969"><i style="color:blue">TT me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onel5969-20231224151400-Seasons_Greetings-1"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_holidays!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_holidays!-20231224183900"><span id="Happy_holidays.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_holidays!-20231224183900"></span>Happy holidays!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_holidays!-20231224183900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 4px solid #FFD700;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 2px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuickQuokka-20231224183900-Happy_holidays!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/211px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png" decoding="async" width="211" height="179" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/317px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png/422px-Wikipedia_Happy_New_Year.png 2x" data-file-width="444" data-file-height="376"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2px 2px 0 2px; height: 1.5em;"><b>Happy Holidays and a Prosperous 2024!</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;"> <hr/> <p><b>Hello Tamzin, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this <a href="/wiki/Christmas_and_holiday_season" title="Christmas and holiday season">seasonal occasion</a>. Spread the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> by wishing another user a <a href="/wiki/Christmas" title="Christmas">Merry Christmas</a> and a <a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">Happy New Year</a>, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. <br/>Happy editing,</b><br/> I know you're Jewish (and so am I) and that Hanukkah is over, but whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <span style="border-radius:10em;padding:0 7q;background:#111"><a href="/wiki/User:QuickQuokka" title="User:QuickQuokka"><span style="color:#0DF">Quick</span><span style="color:#FAB">Quokka</span></a></span> <sup>[⁠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuickQuokka" title="User talk:QuickQuokka">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka" title="Special:Contributions/QuickQuokka">contribs</a>]</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-QuickQuokka-20231224183900-Happy_holidays!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuickQuokka-20231224183900-Happy_holidays!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuickQuokka-20231224183900-Happy_holidays!"></span> </p><p><i><span style="font-size:96%;">Spread the love by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Seasonal_Greetings" title="Template:Seasonal Greetings">subst:Seasonal Greetings</a>}} to other user talk pages.</span></i> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirect_patrol" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirect_patrol-20231226110900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirect_patrol-20231226110900"></span>Redirect patrol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirect_patrol-20231226110900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-20231226110900-Redirect_patrol"></span>Hello and thanks for all the good work. I see 'zinbot has marked a redirect I changed as reviewed. Just checking you're aware that <a href="/wiki/User:DannyS712_bot_III" title="User:DannyS712 bot III">User:DannyS712 bot III</a> does a similar job, though it won't hurt to have a second bot helping to avoid backlog. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Certes-20231226110900-Redirect_patrol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-20231226110900-Redirect_patrol"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-20231226110900-Redirect_patrol"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231226202600-Certes-20231226110900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a>: 'zinbot shouldn't be marking any redirects (in the technical sense) as reviewed. Its scope is RfD'd redirects—which for technical reasons are considered articles, not redirects. Danny's bot, on the other hand, only patrols true redirects. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231226202600-Certes-20231226110900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231226202600-Certes-20231226110900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231226202600-Certes-20231226110900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-20231226202900-Tamzin-20231226202600"></span>Ah, yes, technically it had become an article. Thank you for the explanation. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Certes-20231226202900-Tamzin-20231226202600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-20231226202900-Tamzin-20231226202600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-20231226202900-Tamzin-20231226202600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="routine_revdel_(I_think)" data-mw-thread-id="h-routine_revdel_(I_think)-20231227075500"><span id="routine_revdel_.28I_think.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-routine_revdel_(I_think)-20231227075500"></span>routine revdel (I think)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-routine_revdel_(I_think)-20231227075500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elinruby-20231227075500-routine_revdel_(I_think)"></span>I have been struggling around verifying sources for Holocaust articles (surprise, there are a lot of problems) and with some effort and concentration produced a machine translation of an archived dead link. I then lost my mind and pasted THE WHOLE THING to the article talk page, my point being that the source is not about the massacre; which is what it was used for, but just a ceremony commemorating it a few years ago. It's not really substantive. But then I realized, aha, that may not be fair use in Polish law. It's definitely not the same thing as the hand translation with translated template that is usually what I am doing with translation. </p><p>I edited the text down to bullet points. Your opinion is solicited as to whether I am now in compliance. But I also know that a copyvio in the history is still a copyvio, so I think I am supposed to ask for help at this point. I clicked around and found the list of admins willing to do rev del's, and picked you because we've at least spoken before. I do know better but in that moment however for some reason did not. You may trout at will. </p><p>Let me know if I am requesting this wrong? The edits I am concerned about are: </p> <ul><li>#Konspect source at <a href="/wiki/Holocaust_in_Lithuania" class="mw-redirect" title="Holocaust in Lithuania">Holocaust in Lithuania</a>:<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Holocaust_in_Lithuania&diff=prev&oldid=1192024869">[5]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Holocaust_in_Lithuania&diff=next&oldid=1192024869">[6]</a></li> <li>#IPN source at <a href="/wiki/Ponary_massacre" title="Ponary massacre">Ponary massacre</a>: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ponary_massacre&diff=prev&oldid=1192026659">[7]</a></li></ul> <p><small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Elinruby" title="User:Elinruby">Elinruby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elinruby#top" title="User talk:Elinruby">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Elinruby" title="Special:Contributions/Elinruby">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Elinruby-20231227075500-routine_revdel_(I_think)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elinruby-20231227075500-routine_revdel_(I_think)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elinruby-20231227075500-routine_revdel_(I_think)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20231227204000-Elinruby-20231227075500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Elinruby" title="User:Elinruby">Elinruby</a>:</span> Honestly, I usually wouldn't bother with a few paragraphs quoted from a source on talk (a gray area in theory, in practice a ~0% chance of ever going to court), but since you're concerned, sure, I've revdelled the three edits. FWIW, Google Translate does have a "websites" option on it... but when I plug in <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20070207041704/http://www.wsp.krakow.pl/konspekt/konspekt5/ponary.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp">[8]</a> it forgets to actually, erm, translate the thing. Hmm. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20231227204000-Elinruby-20231227075500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20231227204000-Elinruby-20231227075500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20231227204000-Elinruby-20231227075500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elinruby-20231227222100-Tamzin-20231227204000"></span>just trying not to be the one. And yeah, I had to cut and paste. Translate somehow doesn't get to the archived text. Normal cut and paste doesn't work either; you have to use the widget at the bottom of the screen. In any case, thank you for taking care of that for me. <a href="/wiki/User:Elinruby" title="User:Elinruby">Elinruby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elinruby" title="User talk:Elinruby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Elinruby-20231227222100-Tamzin-20231227204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 27 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elinruby-20231227222100-Tamzin-20231227204000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elinruby-20231227222100-Tamzin-20231227204000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_New_Year" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_New_Year-20231231144800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_New_Year-20231231144800"></span>Happy New Year<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_New_Year-20231231144800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border:2px ; background-color: #FDEE00;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="right"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ealdgyth-20231231144800-Happy_New_Year"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:As_janus_rostrum_okretu_ciach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/As_janus_rostrum_okretu_ciach.jpg" decoding="async" width="250" height="261" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="203" data-file-height="212"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 2; vertical-align: left; height: 1.1em;"><b><a href="/wiki/New_Year%27s_Day" title="New Year's Day">Happy New Year</a>!</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ealdgyth" title="User talk:Ealdgyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Ealdgyth-20231231144800-Happy_New_Year" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ealdgyth-20231231144800-Happy_New_Year"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ealdgyth-20231231144800-Happy_New_Year"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_Rollback_re-grant" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant-20240102234300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant-20240102234300"></span>Request for Rollback re-grant<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant-20240102234300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant"></span>Hi Tamzin :) </p><p>It's been a little over three months since you granted me Rollback (following my request under <a href="#Request_for_Rollback">§ Request for Rollback</a>), and the temporary permission has lapsed. I'm therefore leaving this message to request a re-grant. </p><p>While I had the permission, I <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribs/A_smart_kitten?tagfilter=mw-rollback&limit=100">used it</a></span> to undo sockpuppet edits (mostly with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MASSROLLBACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MASSROLLBACK">mass rollback script</a> & a custom edit summary) and quickly revert obvious vandalism (when using the default edit summary). (I took a wikibreak for some time during the three months, which resulted in me not using the tool in November and only using it once in October.) </p><p>I made one <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1190607004" title="Special:Diff/1190607004">accidental rollback</a>, which was <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1190607112" title="Special:Diff/1190607112">undone with an apology</a>. I have not received any concerns directly relating to my use of Rollback - the closest was a message I received on my talk page regarding my reverting of sockpuppet edits (that thread can be viewed <a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten#Requesting_the_undoing_of_the_deletion_of_Merry_Littlemen,_possibly_a_few_others" title="User talk:A smart kitten">here</a> - due to the editor that messaged me also requesting undeletion, I tagged it for <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Admin_help" title="Template:Admin help">admin help</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> after responding myself). </p><p>Let me know if you have any queries. All the best, ‍—‍<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">a smart kitten</a><sub>[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten">meow</a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300-Request_for_Rollback_re-grant"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240120033600-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">A smart kitten</a>: Sorry for the delay here. I agree that there were no issues in your temp grant. I have granted permanently. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240120033600-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240120033600-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240120033600-A_smart_kitten-20240102234300"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Weasily" data-mw-thread-id="h-Weasily-20240109003200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Weasily-20240109003200"></span>Weasily<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Weasily-20240109003200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200-Weasily"></span>I thought that sounded off. Couldn't put my finer on it. <a href="/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra" title="User:Deepfriedokra">-- Deepfriedokra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deepfriedokra" title="User talk:Deepfriedokra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200-Weasily" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 9 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200-Weasily"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200-Weasily"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://twitter.com/MerriamWebster/status/1447573632448966656"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bradv-20240109012000-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200"></span>https://twitter.com/MerriamWebster/status/1447573632448966656</a> – <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bradv" title="User talk:Bradv"><span style="color:#333"><b>brad<i>v</i></b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bradv-20240109012000-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bradv-20240109012000-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bradv-20240109012000-Deepfriedokra-20240109003200"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention" data-mw-thread-id="h-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention-20240112202600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention-20240112202600"></span>wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention<span data-mw-comment-end="h-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention-20240112202600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention"></span>Just so you know, I wasn't planning on using that report anymore. <a href="/wiki/User:FilmandTVFan28" title="User:FilmandTVFan28">FilmandTVFan28</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmandTVFan28" title="User talk:FilmandTVFan28">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600-wikipedia:Usernames_for_administrator_attention"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240112203400-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600"></span>I understand. It's just a procedural action to restore the previous partial block after the temporary siteblock lapsed; it doesn't imply any issue beyond the original one. If you would like to appeal the original partial block, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GAB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GAB">you of course may</a>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(they|xe|she)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240112203400-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240112203400-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240112203400-FilmandTVFan28-20240112202600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112203700-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span>I'm not good at making an appeal anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:FilmandTVFan28" title="User:FilmandTVFan28">FilmandTVFan28</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmandTVFan28" title="User talk:FilmandTVFan28">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112203700-Tamzin-20240112203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 12 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112203700-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240112203700-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span>I did explain that the report was an accident and I was not in the right state of mind. I didn't even look at the warning to do not do it again because I was too busy with other things outside of Wikipedia. If I did lie too many times about not making unnecessary username reports, I would have remembered myself, but I don’t remember at all. <a href="/wiki/User:FilmandTVFan28" title="User:FilmandTVFan28">FilmandTVFan28</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FilmandTVFan28" title="User talk:FilmandTVFan28">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000-Tamzin-20240112203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000-Tamzin-20240112203400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240502164900-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:FilmandTVFan28" title="User:FilmandTVFan28">FilmandTVFan28</a>: I am no longer an admin. You may appeal your partial block on your talk page with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Unblock" title="Template:Unblock">unblock</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, or at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a>. For what it's worth, as I've said, I think all you need to do to get unblocked here is explain how you'll avoid making these incorrect reports. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240502164900-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240502164900-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240502164900-FilmandTVFan28-20240430185000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240120022200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240120022200"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="The Many Faces of Jesus">The Many Faces of Jesus</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240120022200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Generalissima-20240120022200-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="The Many Faces of Jesus">The Many Faces of Jesus</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has passed <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="Talk:The Many Faces of Jesus">Talk:The Many Faces of Jesus</a> for comments about the article, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus/GA1" title="Talk:The Many Faces of Jesus/GA1">Talk:The Many Faces of Jesus/GA1</a> for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Create_new_nomination" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Create new nomination">nominate it</a> within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:ChristieBot" title="User:ChristieBot">ChristieBot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Generalissima" title="User:Generalissima">Generalissima</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Generalissima" title="User:Generalissima">Generalissima</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Generalissima" title="User talk:Generalissima">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Generalissima-20240120022200-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Generalissima-20240120022200-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Generalissima-20240120022200-Your_GA_nomination_of_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240124000300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240124000300"></span>DYK for The Many Faces of Jesus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus-20240124000300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20240124000300-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/January#24_January_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January">24 January 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="The Many Faces of Jesus">The Many Faces of Jesus</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="The Many Faces of Jesus">a pornographic screenplay about Jesus</a></b> led to papal and royal condemnations, a firebombing, the writer's ban from the UK, and thousands of letters per week demanding the ban of <b><a href="/wiki/Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" title="Gay Jesus film hoax">a non-existent gay Jesus film</a></b>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="Template:Did you know nominations/The Many Faces of Jesus">Template:Did you know nominations/The Many Faces of Jesus</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-01-14&end=2024-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus">The Many Faces of Jesus</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-RoySmith-20240124000300-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20240124000300-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20240124000300-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span> </p><table style="border: 4px outset gray; background: linear-gradient(135deg, #d0e3b5, #b0dab9 67%);"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GalliumBot-20240125032800-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/45px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>Hook update</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your hook reached 25,602 views (1,066.8 per hour), making it one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders/2024/January#The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders/2024/January">most viewed hooks of January 2024</a> – nice work! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:GalliumBot" title="User:GalliumBot">GalliumBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GalliumBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GalliumBot">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GalliumBot" title="Special:Contributions/GalliumBot">contribs</a>) (he/<a href="/wiki/It_(pronoun)" title="It (pronoun)">it</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-GalliumBot-20240125032800-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GalliumBot-20240125032800-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GalliumBot-20240125032800-DYK_for_The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000-GalliumBot-20240125032800"></span>Fascinating article, thank you. Great use of old sources. <a href="/wiki/User:No_Swan_So_Fine" title="User:No Swan So Fine">No Swan So Fine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_Swan_So_Fine" title="User talk:No Swan So Fine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000-GalliumBot-20240125032800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000-GalliumBot-20240125032800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000-GalliumBot-20240125032800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240125024000-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000"></span>Thank you, @<a href="/wiki/User:No_Swan_So_Fine" title="User:No Swan So Fine">No Swan So Fine</a>! It was exciting to find such a long-lasting, far-reaching story that had almost no coverage on this wiki. I'd love to spin <i>The Return</i> out at some point, since it's really its own topic, but I'm guessing most coverage would be in Danish. Maybe <a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero" title="User:Guerillero">Guerillero</a> can pick up the torch. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240125024000-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240125024000-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240125024000-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240124214000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700-Tamzin-20240125024000"></span>I do think with the advent of contemporary newspaper sources from the Wikipedia Library that we could be entering a golden age of articles on recent historical events. I think for the first decade of my time on Wikipedia such sources were inaccessible and it seemed that the distant past was better covered than post war events. <a href="/wiki/User:No_Swan_So_Fine" title="User:No Swan So Fine">No Swan So Fine</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:No_Swan_So_Fine" title="User talk:No Swan So Fine">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700-Tamzin-20240125024000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700-Tamzin-20240125024000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700-Tamzin-20240125024000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trainsandotherthings-20240125234600-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700"></span>I think this article is a perfect example of how, despite those who claim otherwise, all the interesting articles most definitely have <i>not</i> been written yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Trainsandotherthings" title="User:Trainsandotherthings">Trainsandotherthings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trainsandotherthings" title="User talk:Trainsandotherthings">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Trainsandotherthings-20240125234600-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trainsandotherthings-20240125234600-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trainsandotherthings-20240125234600-No_Swan_So_Fine-20240125113700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax-20240124000400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax-20240124000400"></span>DYK for Gay Jesus film hoax<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax-20240124000400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20240124000400-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/January#24_January_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/January">24 January 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" title="Gay Jesus film hoax">Gay Jesus film hoax</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="The Many Faces of Jesus">a pornographic screenplay about Jesus</a></b> led to papal and royal condemnations, a firebombing, the writer's ban from the UK, and thousands of letters per week demanding the ban of <b><a href="/wiki/Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" title="Gay Jesus film hoax">a non-existent gay Jesus film</a></b>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Many_Faces_of_Jesus" title="Template:Did you know nominations/The Many Faces of Jesus">Template:Did you know nominations/The Many Faces of Jesus</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-01-14&end=2024-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gay_Jesus_film_hoax">Gay Jesus film hoax</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-RoySmith-20240124000400-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20240124000400-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20240124000400-DYK_for_Gay_Jesus_film_hoax"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether-20240124222400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether-20240124222400"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/Mira_Bellwether" title="Mira Bellwether">Mira Bellwether</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether-20240124222400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/Mira_Bellwether" title="Mira Bellwether">Mira Bellwether</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has passed <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Mira_Bellwether" title="Talk:Mira Bellwether">Talk:Mira Bellwether</a> for comments about the article, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Mira_Bellwether/GA1" title="Talk:Mira Bellwether/GA1">Talk:Mira Bellwether/GA1</a> for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Create_new_nomination" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Create new nomination">nominate it</a> within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:ChristieBot" title="User:ChristieBot">ChristieBot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Caeciliusinhorto" title="User:Caeciliusinhorto">Caeciliusinhorto</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Caeciliusinhorto" title="User:Caeciliusinhorto">Caeciliusinhorto</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Caeciliusinhorto" title="User talk:Caeciliusinhorto">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400-Your_GA_nomination_of_Mira_Bellwether"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240125025400-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Caeciliusinhorto" title="User:Caeciliusinhorto">Caeciliusinhorto</a>: Thanks for a really helpful review. I'll sleep on some of those style questions. Also, this notification made me realize that the recent change I made to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYKG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYKG">WP:DYKG</a> wasn't reflected in the GA pass notification! <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198798506" title="Special:Diff/1198798506">I've streamlined the whole thing.</a> Happy editing. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240125025400-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240125025400-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240125025400-Caeciliusinhorto-20240124222400"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"-20240125092400"><span id="Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_.22.D9.85.D8.B3.D8.B9.D9.88.D8.AF_.D8.B4.D9.81.DB.8C.D8.B9.DB.8C.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"-20240125092400"></span>Restoring a deleted page entitled "مسعود شفیعی"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"-20240125092400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Golyapooch123-20240125092400-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی""></span>Dear Tamzin Recently a page was created for professor Masoud Shafiee whom is a famous teacher at AmirKabir university in Iran. You can find his page on university website <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://aut.ac.ir/cv/2367/MASOUD-SHAFIEE?slc_lang=en&&cv=2367&mod=scv">here</a>. You can also find his page on google scholar <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=mAY-2q4AAAAJ&hl=en">here</a>. He has authored lots of scientific books and papers and is well-known in the scientific community. In regard to his works at different universities in Iran and as he is well-known in Iran, a page was created for him on Wikipedia. But a guy has deleted the page after less than a day from creation (without any reason). As he is one of the most famous professors in electrical engineering in Iran and was the dean in university of Applied Sciences and Technology (named <a class="external text" href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B4%DA%AF%D8%A7%D9%87_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9_%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85%DB%8C_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%AF%DB%8C">here</a>), the Wikipedia page was created for him to help users find his information on the internet. The page was for his students and other people to know him better and find information about him. As the page is deleted (<a class="external text" href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF_%D8%B4%D9%81%DB%8C%D8%B9%DB%8C">here</a>), I would be grateful if you could restore it. Thank you in advance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Golyapooch123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Golyapooch123 (page does not exist)">Golyapooch123</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Golyapooch123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Golyapooch123 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Golyapooch123-20240125092400-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Golyapooch123-20240125092400-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Golyapooch123-20240125092400-Restoring_a_deleted_page_entitled_"مسعود_شفیعی""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240125093000-Golyapooch123-20240125092400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Golyapooch123&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Golyapooch123 (page does not exist)">Golyapooch123</a>: The English Wikipedia has no jurisdiction over the Persian/Farsi Wikipedia. It looks like you've already found <a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MJXVI" class="extiw" title="fa:User talk:MJXVI">fa:User talk:MJXVI</a>. You should continue your discussion there. Thanks. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240125093000-Golyapooch123-20240125092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240125093000-Golyapooch123-20240125092400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240125093000-Golyapooch123-20240125092400"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rollback_conditions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rollback_conditions-20240126003500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rollback_conditions-20240126003500"></span>Rollback conditions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rollback_conditions-20240126003500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500-Rollback_conditions"></span>Hi Tamzin! I might be overthinking this but - after <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribs/A_smart_kitten?end=2024-01-25&tagfilter=huggle">taking Huggle for a test drive</a></span> yesterday - I had a couple of questions about one of the rollback conditions <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/Discretionary_admin_things#Permissions_requests" title="User:Tamzin/Discretionary admin things">here</a>. Specifically, where it says that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">reverting a net-positive but flawed edit (such as an unsourced addition of encyclopedic information that could be sourced with a simple Google search) counts as a "bad revert"</q>. </p><p>I just wanted to clarify a few things. Firstly, I wanted to check if this condition was intended for default rollback (with the bland edit summary) only, or if it includes the use of rollback with a custom edit summary and/or using tools like Huggle (which can revert with a summary like <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">addition of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">unsourced content</a> to a biographical article</q>); given that one could (for example) undo the edit using the same custom summary and not have it fall under rollback. Secondly, I wanted to check how this condition interacts with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPREMOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPREMOVE">WP:BLPREMOVE</a>, which requires that contentious unsourced information about living people be immediately removed. </p><p>For reference, the times during my Huggle test drive where I reverted due to the lack of a source are <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198811937" title="Special:Diff/1198811937">here</a>, <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198814780" title="Special:Diff/1198814780">here</a> & <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198819017" title="Special:Diff/1198819017">here</a>. Looking back afterwards: </p> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1184333354/1198811713" title="Special:Diff/1184333354/1198811713">first edit</a> contradicted the source that was currently included at the end of the sentence, and a brief Google search has found conflicting information as to whether or not the Los Angeles Opera are involved & in what sense, in addition to conflicting information regarding the year and place of the premiere. Because of this, I thought that it was best to revert the unsourced change, due to not being familiar enough with the topic area to feel comfortable making any substantive alterations to the article myself.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198814596" title="Special:Diff/1198814596">second edit</a> was reverted per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPREMOVE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPREMOVE">WP:BLPREMOVE</a>. Searching afterwards, I found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/hockey-canada-sexual-assault-leave-19fd7216d95efcd2a753911bc05e0dbb">a source</a> that could have potentially been used to insert similar content into the article, but - when patrolling (e.g. using Huggle) - this sort of investigation & rectification is something it's not always possible to do (especially when I'm not familiar with the topic in question), and - when the diff showed up on my screen - it seemed like the type of contentious material that BLPREMOVE says should be reverted immediately. A worry that came to mind was that not being able to revert unsourced additions like this while patrolling might potentially defeat the purpose of BLPREMOVE.</li> <li>For the <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198650757/1198817241" title="Special:Diff/1198650757/1198817241">last edit</a>, I accidentally hit the 'standard revert' button instead of the 'unsourced BLP revert' button, but I attempted to make up for that by leaving a <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1198819693" title="Special:Diff/1198819693">supplemental mesage</a> at the editor's talk page.)</li></ul> <p>If you have any feedback and/or criticism about the reverts I've made, or any questions about anything I've said, then please let me know. All the best, ‍—‍<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">a smart kitten</a><sub>[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_smart_kitten" title="User talk:A smart kitten">meow</a>]</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500-Rollback_conditions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500-Rollback_conditions"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500-Rollback_conditions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240128044200-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_smart_kitten&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A smart kitten (page does not exist)">A smart kitten</a>: Yes, I was only referring to standard-summary rollbacks (or rollbacks where the added summary offers no greater clarity). And of course, the occasional mistake of which button one hits is understandable. It sounds like you're being conscientious about your reverts, and that's the whole idea of my approach to granting rollback, so keep at it. <code>:)</code> <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240128044200-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240128044200-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240128044200-A_smart_kitten-20240126003500"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Move_to_workshop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Move_to_workshop-20240128110100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Move_to_workshop-20240128110100"></span>Move to workshop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Move_to_workshop-20240128110100"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Guerillero-20240128110100-Move_to_workshop"></span>Hi 'zin. Can you please move your analysis of my evidence to the "Analysis of Evidence" section on the workshop page. We have an unlimited number of words there -- <a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero" title="User:Guerillero">Guerillero</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Guerillero" title="User talk:Guerillero"><span style="color: green;">Parlez Moi</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Guerillero-20240128110100-Move_to_workshop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Guerillero-20240128110100-Move_to_workshop"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Guerillero-20240128110100-Move_to_workshop"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240128174600-Guerillero-20240128110100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero" title="User:Guerillero">Guerillero</a>: Sure! FWIW, speaking to your arb-self and not your party-self, it's not at all clear to me as a random party what the difference is between rebuttals on evidence and analysis in workshop, and that might be something to clarify someday. But whatever works for others. ☺ <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240128174600-Guerillero-20240128110100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 28 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240128174600-Guerillero-20240128110100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240128174600-Guerillero-20240128110100"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Uncivil_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-Uncivil_message-20240202085600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Uncivil_message-20240202085600"></span>Uncivil message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Uncivil_message-20240202085600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.40.212.157-20240202085600-Uncivil_message"></span>Hi, I was just looking through the contribution history of this particular IP when I noticed that someone had sent <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tamzin&oldid=1127013249">a rather uncivil message to you</a>. Well, I wasn't that person, but I would just like to stop by and offer my <i>most</i> sincere apologies on behalf of that person. I see your notice on your talk page about stress, and I know it was a while ago, but I can't imagine that that rude message helped any further. I hope you feel better soon! <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> </p><p>Many thanks, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.40.212.157" title="Special:Contributions/92.40.212.157">92.40.212.157</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:92.40.212.157" title="User talk:92.40.212.157">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-92.40.212.157-20240202085600-Uncivil_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.40.212.157-20240202085600-Uncivil_message"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.40.212.157-20240202085600-Uncivil_message"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240202135300-92.40.212.157-20240202085600"></span>Meh. I like whales and I like doing silly things. So I took no offense. But thank you for your thoughtfulness.</dd> <dd>The stress banner could probably come down now (the circumstances that begat it still exist but <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2001/09/20/we-know-who-we-are/6eac5eb3-1541-4475-ac00-6f1eef2f849a/">life goes on and life is good</a>), but I'll leave it up a little bit longer. If anything I am the opposite of stressed right now—serene and methodical—but strangely that can have similar effects, to the outward observer. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240202135300-92.40.212.157-20240202085600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240202135300-92.40.212.157-20240202085600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240202135300-92.40.212.157-20240202085600"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240202120300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240202120300"></span>DYK for Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240202120300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-20240202120300-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/February#2_February_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February">2 February 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that in <b><a href="/wiki/Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">one neighborhood commission district</a></b>, the voters and officeholders are all inmates at the D.C. Jail?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">Template:Did you know nominations/Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-01-23&end=2024-02-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08">Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> —<a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Ganesha811-20240202120300-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-20240202120300-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-20240202120300-DYK_for_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA-20240207072400"><span id="Watching_the_Night.2C_or_the_current_RfA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA-20240207072400"></span>Watching the Night, or the current RfA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA-20240207072400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA"></span>Dear Tamzin, </p><p>First of all, I am really sorry if writing this breaks any rule, be it a written or unwritten one, or if it comes off as Lourdes-style canvassing and pressuring. Heck, I am a rather random editor with quite a humble amount of edits, with few connections and somehow limited knowledge of the Wikipedia's community. But I thought to myself, what could go wrong? Worst case scenario, I will maybe be ignored or warned. Surely, I wouldn't be blocked... right? </p><p>Oki, onto the matter of the subject. Since a few months I've been participating in RfAs, getting to see the community in action and seeing how the entire process works. Honestly, this entire thing gives me anxiety and I cannot really imagine ever trying my luck there myself. Unless it takes me 10 years to gather enough experience and Wikipedian culture will be completely different by then. Although I would be an elderly man by then - 35 years old! </p><p>I mean, you know that first-hand, where RfA is just some cuttthroat business where people look for scandals to ignite just to sink the candidate down. You made a very rightful comment about Trump and Trumpism, only for it to become a huge outrage that almost sunk your entire RfA. And yet what you said was completely correct and fully appropriate, and your entire point that people can and should be judged for their politial views was just a truth that people voting against you just did not want to hear. At least that is my view here, because I do not mean any disrespect to people who voted the way they did at your RfA. </p><p>And here comes the RfA of The Night Watch. I am writing this because despite the fact the vote is currently looking good for them, I can't help but just feel... frustrated about this whole thing. Not because I know The Night Watch or have any right to be so emotionally involved in it, but it's just this... emphathy. I can imagine how hurtful their tone-policing remark against you was and how hurt you felt, and how their A9 appeared to be tone-deaf, which also prompted leeky (and, finding myself convinced by leeky's stance, also me) to vote neutral instead of supporting. But then... The Night Watch wrote an appending to A9. It felt like a very emotional, honest, sincere and simply heartwarming apology, and full recognition of their error. It made me feel like there is truly something else to Wikipedia than just its brutal atmosphere and white-on-black text everywhere. Leeky switched to support, and so did I. </p><p>And we know what happened next. Now The Night Watch is experiencing an oppose wave on its own just because for that appendix. Because it's "melodramatic", because it's weak, because it's self-flagellating, because it's supposedly disqualifying for someone who aspired to become an admin. Honestly, it just feels upsetting to read and see. I feel like The Night Watch deserves better. After all, this is just a losing situation for them, their A9 came off as out-of-touch to some, and when they went the other way and actually lived up to their mistake, they get criticized all the same. There is literally nothing they can do! Apparently the only way for The Night Watch to truly gain the community's trust is to completely disregard you and your feelings, and to stay silent on the matter. But they didn't, and it seems they're paying the price. </p><p>So, why am I even writing this? Because I thought, and wanted to ask you, if maybe you feel like you could change your vote in the light of this development. Like I said, this is a scary thing for me to do, because I do not want to come off as some canvasser making himself look like an idiot for an RfA candidate they never encountered, but I am wondering if this thought crossed your mind. I just feel like what's happening at this RfA is great injustice and makes me feel depressed about the whole thing. It felt like a personal defeat for me when Tails Wx withdrew - that is because as a fellow furry and asexual, I just couldn't help but root for him. But alas. And now The Night Watch can get their RfA sunk over developing as a person and fully recognizing their mistake. I hate this. </p><p>Your oppose was extremely impactful, and every single oppose against The Night Watch is related to it and the incident that prompted your oppose in the first place. If you were to change your vote, it would have turned this whole thing upside down. And I wonder if that wouldn't be the right thing to do in that situation. </p><p>Ok, I am so sorry for this long text. I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts! I am again sorry if you find this inappropiate or if I'm showing off my inexperience by unknowingly breaking a rule by writing this. Feel free to warn me, revert this, or maybe just ignore it if that is the case. But I felt like it was worth a chance to write this to you and see your thoughts. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Brat_Forelli" title="User:Brat Forelli"><span style="color:Goldenrod; background: white"><i><b>Brat Forelli</b></i>🦊</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400-Watching_the_Night,_or_the_current_RfA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240207215000-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400"></span>Hi, @<a href="/wiki/User:Brat_Forelli" title="User:Brat Forelli">Brat Forelli</a>. I don't mind the comment at all. I've been thinking a lot about whether I stand by my oppose. To me the four main factors are: <ol><li>I like TNW as a person.</li> <li>I don't like seeing good people put in emotionally difficult situations, and like being part of it even less.</li> <li>I do have unresolved concerns about how TNW would act as an admin.</li> <li>I do not think it would be the end of the world if TNW became an admin.</li></ol></dd> <dd>As much as (1) and (2) sway me on an emotional level, I do not want to vote against my own perception of what's best for the project: Adminship isn't a reward for being a good person; it's an assessment of one's fitness to serve in that role. So I hope that that ambivalence came through in my follow-up comment yesterday. If this goes to a 'crat chat, 'crats can and will weigh votes based on statements that qualify the support/opposition, and I would expect a 'crat to do so for mine—especially given my obvious bias regarding the incident at issue. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240207215000-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 7 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240207215000-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240207215000-Brat_Forelli-20240207072400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brat_Forelli-20240208045500-Tamzin-20240207215000"></span>Thank you for your response! I do find your perspective interesting and I really appreciate the fact that you shared it!</dd> <dd>One thing that leaves me wondering is that you did mention the increasingly likely possibility of the RfA becoming a narrow call that will have to resolved through 'crats. Of course, other possibilities on the table are withdrawal, be it from the enormous stress that The Night Watch is going through, or the odds shifting further against him.</dd> <dd>You did have to go through the 'crat vote in your own RfA. It was definitely all narrow, both the actual support ratio, and the 'crat chat was also not unanimous, with two 'crats arguing that there was no consensus for your promotion. Thankfully, however, you made it - you got the mop and you use it to your fullest to make Wikipedia a tad bit brighter.</dd> <dd>However, should The Night Watch have to go through all this? The 'crat chat, this cold process where they have to watch whether the 'crats argue in their favor or not? I feel like it was terrible in your case, and it would be just as terrible now. I also find something chilling in the scenario that you hinted at in your comment on your oppose. That should the RfA fail this time, jaded and cynical The Night Watch could try again in about a year or so. A bit depressing for me to envision that one's world has to lose their colors for the community to deem them ready for the mop. <a href="/wiki/User:Brat_Forelli" title="User:Brat Forelli"><span style="color:Goldenrod; background: white"><i><b>Brat Forelli</b></i>🦊</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Brat_Forelli-20240208045500-Tamzin-20240207215000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brat_Forelli-20240208045500-Tamzin-20240207215000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brat_Forelli-20240208045500-Tamzin-20240207215000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RfA_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfA_comments-20240209164800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfA_comments-20240209164800"></span>RfA comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfA_comments-20240209164800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barkeep49-20240209164800-RfA_comments"></span>I had stopped reading TNW's RfA after deciding I wasn't going to participate but checked in just now. And I have to say I find these diffs (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/The_Night_Watch&diff=prev&oldid=1204341486">[9]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/The_Night_Watch&diff=prev&oldid=1205049995">[10]</a>) really unfortunate. It feels like you're <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME">shocked shocked that there's opposing going on in here</a>. If you didn't want to see the rfa fail you could have done nothing rather than opposing the way that you did. But the chance that the rfa would go the way it was completely foreseeable and so feeling conflicted or sorry might be sincere but is a bit much coming from you. <a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Barkeep49-20240209164800-RfA_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Barkeep49-20240209164800-RfA_comments"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Barkeep49-20240209164800-RfA_comments"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240209171600-Barkeep49-20240209164800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a>:</span> Huh? I don't see where I said I didn't want to see the RfA fail. In fact, I've conveyed the exact opposite by declining to strike or weaken my oppose. I also don't see where I said this course of events was unforeseeable. Is it really so much to want to be able to oppose a candidate you aren't convinced would make a good admin, and to also not want people to be a dick to them? If you think that it's "really unfortunate" that I a) made a comment addressing the nuances of the situation and expressing sympathy for the candidate's situation and b) criticized someone assuming bad faith of the candidate, then I... well I really don't know what to say, Barkeep. This is one of the most utterly surreal talkpage messages I have received in 11 years. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240209171600-Barkeep49-20240209164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240209171600-Barkeep49-20240209164800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240209171600-Barkeep49-20240209164800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barkeep49-20240209172400-Tamzin-20240209171600"></span>Clearly I don't understand what your conflicting feelings are (ES of diff 1). And from my POV, Grandpallama's oppose is being no more of a dick than your oppose - which to me are both with in the realm of what people get to oppose about at RfA. <a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Barkeep49-20240209172400-Tamzin-20240209171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Barkeep49-20240209172400-Tamzin-20240209171600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Barkeep49-20240209172400-Tamzin-20240209171600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240209174800-Barkeep49-20240209172400"></span>I think you may have read my addendum in haste. Your implied question is answered in the second sentence. As to Grandpallama's comment, I suppose there might be a certain wiki-worldview in which assumption of bad faith is no worse than bringing up an old argument, but it's a worldview that's quite alien to me, and sounds uncharacteristic coming from you, as I tend to think of you as being fairly staunch on civility. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240209174800-Barkeep49-20240209172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240209174800-Barkeep49-20240209172400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240209174800-Barkeep49-20240209172400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Barkeep49-20240209192500-Tamzin-20240209174800"></span>Question 9 directly gives them a chance to respond to your oppose. And the chance that would happen is predictable. I suppose A9 wasn't predictable exactly but that for me doesn't mean you bear no responsibility for what happened, including A9 and the reaction to it. Despite your characterizing it as such I don't think Grandpallama's is bad faith; I don't agree with the characterization of it that way, I agree 100% with yours for similar reasons of how I acted when I was young and on the internet, but there is absolutely evidence to support the characterization Grandpallama gave to it. <a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Barkeep49" title="User talk:Barkeep49">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Barkeep49-20240209192500-Tamzin-20240209174800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Barkeep49-20240209192500-Tamzin-20240209174800"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Barkeep49-20240209192500-Tamzin-20240209174800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240209194800-Barkeep49-20240209192500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Barkeep49" title="User:Barkeep49">Barkeep49</a>: Again, where do you get the idea that I think the current state of the RfA was unforeseeable, or that I reject any responsibility for it? Obviously, my oppose was the first link in a <a href="/wiki/Chain_of_causation" class="mw-redirect" title="Chain of causation">chain of causation</a>, and while there have been intervening events since, ultimately we probably wouldn't be here if not for my decision to oppose. <em>That's why I made the comments you're criticizing,</em> because I felt a degree of responsibility for the state of things, including bad-faith-assuming opposes like the one that you are saying I should not have argued against. I'm really confused by what's happening in this conversation. You seem determined to dissuade me of things I never said, which is very much unlike you. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240209194800-Barkeep49-20240209192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240209194800-Barkeep49-20240209192500"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240209194800-Barkeep49-20240209192500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template-20240214132300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template-20240214132300"></span>ARCA request - contentious topics appeals template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template-20240214132300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxim-20240214132300-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template"></span>Hi Tamzin, Given there were no objections, I've implemented your suggested change to the template, and hatted the ARCA request. Let me know if I managed to botch the template somehow. :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Maxim" title="User:Maxim">Maxim</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxim" title="User talk:Maxim">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Maxim-20240214132300-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxim-20240214132300-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxim-20240214132300-ARCA_request_-_contentious_topics_appeals_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240217025800-Maxim-20240214132300"></span>Thanks, @<a href="/wiki/User:Maxim" title="User:Maxim">Maxim</a>! Tangentially, might also want to clarify the different standards of review for CTOP / case-level AE, as came up briefly in the discussion. Since it's just a matter of reflecting existing policy, I imagine it shouldn't need a new ARCA. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240217025800-Maxim-20240214132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240217025800-Maxim-20240214132300"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240217025800-Maxim-20240214132300"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'm_Open" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'm_Open-20240217174000"><span id="I.27m_Open"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'm_Open-20240217174000"></span>I'm Open<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'm_Open-20240217174000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000-I'm_Open"></span>You hit the nail on the head. If you need anything from me or want to talk, I'll be there. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Night Watch"><span style="color:black;"><span style="font-size:110%"><i>The Night Watch</i></span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Night Watch"><span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000-I'm_Open" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000-I'm_Open"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000-I'm_Open"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240218184500-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000"></span>Thanks, TNW. <code>:)</code> Likewise to you. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240218184500-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240218184500-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240218184500-The_Night_Watch-20240217174000"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel-20240223084300"><span id="Sockpuppet_investigations.2FSander.v.Ginkel"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel-20240223084300"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel">Sockpuppet investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel-20240223084300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1AmNobody24-20240223084300-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel"></span>Hi Tamzin, in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel/Archive#10_May_2022" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel/Archive">past</a> you blocked <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.174.61.58" title="Special:Contributions/82.174.61.58">this IP</a> as a sock. Well, they're back, it looks like. I've accepted one of their dratfs at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">WP:AFC</a>, but since they're a banned user any article by them can be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">G5</a>. Any advice? <a href="/wiki/User:1AmNobody24" title="User:1AmNobody24"><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:1AmNobody24" title="User talk:1AmNobody24"><span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-1AmNobody24-20240223084300-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1AmNobody24-20240223084300-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1AmNobody24-20240223084300-Sockpuppet_investigations/Sander.v.Ginkel"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_inspired_me" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_inspired_me-20240303230900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_inspired_me-20240303230900"></span>You inspired me<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_inspired_me-20240303230900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bri-20240303230900-You_inspired_me"></span>A redlink at <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/userpage/special" title="User:Tamzin/userpage/special">User:Tamzin/userpage/special</a> inspired me and I created <a href="/wiki/Martyrs%27_Day:_Chronicle_of_a_Small_War" title="Martyrs' Day: Chronicle of a Small War">this</a>. Thanks. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus"><a href="/wiki/User:Bri" title="User:Bri">Bri</a></span> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bri" title="User talk:Bri">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bri-20240303230900-You_inspired_me" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bri-20240303230900-You_inspired_me"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bri-20240303230900-You_inspired_me"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240307164600-Bri-20240303230900"></span>Oh cool! Thanks, @<a href="/wiki/User:Bri" title="User:Bri">Bri</a>. I'll have to tell my mom; she'll like that. Maybe at some point I'll edit-request in a synopsis.</dd> <dd>P.S. Might want to mention the <a href="/wiki/Highway_of_Death" title="Highway of Death">Highway of Death</a> when discussing "Highway to Hell" <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240307164600-Bri-20240303230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 7 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240307164600-Bri-20240303230900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240307164600-Bri-20240303230900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240307165700-Tamzin-20240307164600"></span>Oh also, it was <a href="/w/index.php?title=Robert_Vare&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Robert Vare (page does not exist)">Robert Vare</a>, not Ted Koppel, who edited <i>Things Worth Fighting For</i> (along with my mother, but she's not credited). <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240307165700-Tamzin-20240307164600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240307165700-Tamzin-20240307164600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240307165700-Tamzin-20240307164600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240317174400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240317174400"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08-20240317174400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sammi_Brie-20240317174400-Your_GA_nomination_of_Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has passed <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08" title="Talk:Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08">Talk:Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08</a> for comments about the article, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Advisory_Neighborhood_Commission_district_7F08/GA1" title="Talk:Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08/GA1">Talk:Advisory Neighborhood Commission district 7F08/GA1</a> for the nomination. Well done! 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Well done! If the article is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Guidelines#Newness" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines">eligible to appear</a> in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Create_new_nomination" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Create new nomination">nominate it</a> within the next seven days. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:ChristieBot" title="User:ChristieBot">ChristieBot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Generalissima" title="User:Generalissima">Generalissima</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Generalissima" title="User:Generalissima">Generalissima</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Generalissima" title="User talk:Generalissima">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Generalissima-20240322054300-Your_GA_nomination_of_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this," class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Generalissima-20240322054300-Your_GA_nomination_of_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Generalissima-20240322054300-Your_GA_nomination_of_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Promotion_of_Capri-Sun" data-mw-thread-id="h-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun-20240328000500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun-20240328000500"></span>Promotion of <a href="/wiki/Capri-Sun" title="Capri-Sun">Capri-Sun</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun-20240328000500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FACBot-20240328000500-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style="font-size:1.25em; font-family:Georgia;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 60px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Cscr-featured.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/60px-Cscr-featured.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="57" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/90px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e7/Cscr-featured.svg/120px-Cscr-featured.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="466" data-file-height="443"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> Congratulations, Tamzin! The article you nominated, <b><a href="/wiki/Capri-Sun" title="Capri-Sun">Capri-Sun</a></b>, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Capri-Sun/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Capri-Sun/archive1">nomination discussion</a></b> has been archived.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/requests" title="Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests">nominate it</a> to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Gog_the_Mild" title="User:Gog the Mild">Gog the Mild</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gog_the_Mild" title="User talk:Gog the Mild">talk</a>) via <a href="/wiki/User:FACBot" title="User:FACBot">FACBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FACBot" title="User talk:FACBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-FACBot-20240328000500-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 28 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FACBot-20240328000500-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FACBot-20240328000500-Promotion_of_Capri-Sun"></span> </div> </div> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo-20240329224200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo-20240329224200"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/Cover-up_tattoo" title="Cover-up tattoo">Cover-up tattoo</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo-20240329224200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pi.1415926535-20240329224200-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/Cover-up_tattoo" title="Cover-up tattoo">Cover-up tattoo</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has passed <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cover-up_tattoo" title="Talk:Cover-up tattoo">Talk:Cover-up tattoo</a> for comments about the article, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cover-up_tattoo/GA1" title="Talk:Cover-up tattoo/GA1">Talk:Cover-up tattoo/GA1</a> for the nomination. Well done! If the article is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Guidelines#Newness" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines">eligible to appear</a> in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Create_new_nomination" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Create new nomination">nominate it</a> within the next seven days. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:ChristieBot" title="User:ChristieBot">ChristieBot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pi.1415926535" title="User talk:Pi.1415926535">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pi.1415926535-20240329224200-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pi.1415926535-20240329224200-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pi.1415926535-20240329224200-Your_GA_nomination_of_Cover-up_tattoo"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname-20240330122000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname-20240330122000"></span>Thank you for your effort with <a href="/wiki/F1NN5TER" title="F1NN5TER">F1NN5TERs</a> surname<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname-20240330122000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FortunateSons-20240330122000-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname"></span>I just wanted to thank you for taking the additional steps required to create a viable and just consensus on a complicated topic :) <a href="/wiki/User:FortunateSons" title="User:FortunateSons">FortunateSons</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FortunateSons" title="User talk:FortunateSons">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-FortunateSons-20240330122000-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FortunateSons-20240330122000-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FortunateSons-20240330122000-Thank_you_for_your_effort_with_F1NN5TERs_surname"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Ray_cat" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Ray_cat-20240401000200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Ray_cat-20240401000200"></span>DYK for Ray cat<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Ray_cat-20240401000200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-20240401000200-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/April#1_April_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April">1 April 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Ray_cat" title="Ray cat">Ray cat</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that <b><a href="/wiki/Ray_cat" title="Ray cat">color-changing cats</a></b> could help us communicate with the future?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Ray_cat" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Ray cat">Template:Did you know nominations/Ray cat</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-03-22&end=2024-04-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ray_cat">Ray cat</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> —<a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Ganesha811-20240401000200-DYK_for_Ray_cat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-20240401000200-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-20240401000200-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span> </p><table style="border: 4px outset gray; background: linear-gradient(135deg, #d0e3b5, #b0dab9 67%);"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/45px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>Hook update</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your hook reached 43,372 views (1,807.1 per hour), making it one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders/2024/April#Ray_cat" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders/2024/April">most viewed hooks of April 2024</a> – nice work! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:GalliumBot" title="User:GalliumBot">GalliumBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GalliumBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GalliumBot">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GalliumBot" title="Special:Contributions/GalliumBot">contribs</a>) (he/<a href="/wiki/It_(pronoun)" title="It (pronoun)">it</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_Ray_cat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_Ray_cat"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240401000300"><span id="DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this.2C_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240401000300"></span>DYK for When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240401000300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-20240401000300-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/April#1_April_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April">1 April 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word" title="When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word">When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that no one laughed at <b><a href="/wiki/When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word" title="When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word">the worst joke in legal history</a></b>?</i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word" title="Template:Did you know nominations/When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word">Template:Did you know nominations/When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-03-22&end=2024-04-11&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word">When a man argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they are going to have the last word</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> —<a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Ganesha811-20240401000300-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-20240401000300-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-20240401000300-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span> </p><table style="border: 4px outset gray; background: linear-gradient(135deg, #d0e3b5, #b0dab9 67%);"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/45px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>Hook update</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your hook reached 42,498 views (1,770.8 per hour), making it one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders/2024/April#When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going_to_have_the_last_word" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders/2024/April">most viewed hooks of April 2024</a> – nice work! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:GalliumBot" title="User:GalliumBot">GalliumBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GalliumBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GalliumBot">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GalliumBot" title="Special:Contributions/GalliumBot">contribs</a>) (he/<a href="/wiki/It_(pronoun)" title="It (pronoun)">it</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GalliumBot-20240403032700-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Precious_anniversary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precious_anniversary-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240403070200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precious_anniversary-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240403070200"></span>Precious anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precious_anniversary-DYK_for_When_a_man_argues_against_two_beautiful_ladies_like_this,_they_are_going-20240403070200"></span></h3></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240403070200-Precious_anniversary"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75); border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title">Precious</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/60px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" decoding="async" width="60" height="72" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/90px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/120px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="1792"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Tamzin/Archive" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">Two years!</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240403070200-Precious_anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240403070200-Precious_anniversary"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240403070200-Precious_anniversary"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_notice-20240401010900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_notice-20240401010900"></span>ANI notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_notice-20240401010900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Di_(they-them)-20240401010900-ANI_notice"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/File:Rick_Astley_-_Never_Gonna_Give_You_Up.ogg" title="File:Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up.ogg">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<span class="aprilfools"><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:April_Fools" title="Wikipedia:April Fools"><span title="This statement is an April Fools' Day joke. Please do not take it seriously.">April Fools!</span></a></i>]</sup></span> <a href="/wiki/User:Di_(they-them)" title="User:Di (they-them)">Di (they-them)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Di_(they-them)" title="User talk:Di (they-them)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Di_(they-them)-20240401010900-ANI_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Di_(they-them)-20240401010900-ANI_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Di_(they-them)-20240401010900-ANI_notice"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Possible_splitting_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Possible_splitting_help-20240401201000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Possible_splitting_help-20240401201000"></span>Possible splitting help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Possible_splitting_help-20240401201000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000-Possible_splitting_help"></span>I believe anal fingering should have its own article split from <a href="/wiki/Fingering_(sexual_act)" title="Fingering (sexual act)">Fingering (sexual act)</a> as anal fingering comes with its own techniques and risks. Do I have to be patient when it comes to consensus? <a href="/wiki/User:Autisticeditor_20" title="User:Autisticeditor 20">Autisticeditor 20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Autisticeditor_20" title="User talk:Autisticeditor 20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000-Possible_splitting_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000-Possible_splitting_help"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000-Possible_splitting_help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240401202100-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Autisticeditor_20" title="User:Autisticeditor 20">Autisticeditor 20</a>: See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAGEDECIDE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAGEDECIDE">WP:PAGEDECIDE</a> for when to split a page. It seems unlikely to me that there's a benefit in splitting off just anal fingering, unless you plan to be able to write a much longer article on the topic. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240401202100-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240401202100-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240401202100-Autisticeditor_20-20240401201000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401202900-Tamzin-20240401202100"></span>Yes I plan to extend the info on anal fingering. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Autisticeditor_20" title="User:Autisticeditor 20">Autisticeditor 20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Autisticeditor_20" title="User talk:Autisticeditor 20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401202900-Tamzin-20240401202100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401202900-Tamzin-20240401202100"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Autisticeditor_20-20240401202900-Tamzin-20240401202100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Chag_urim_sameach!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Chag_urim_sameach!-20231208060600"><span id="Chag_urim_sameach.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Chag_urim_sameach!-20231208060600"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1038841319">.mw-parser-output .tooltip-dotted{border-bottom:1px dotted;cursor:help}</style><span class="rt-commentedText tooltip tooltip-dotted" title="Happy Hanukkah!">Chag urim sameach!</span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Chag_urim_sameach!-20231208060600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:Orange; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patient_Zero-20231208060600-Chag_urim_sameach!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg/100px-Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg/150px-Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg/200px-Potato_pancakes_in_a_frying_pan.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2448" data-file-height="2448"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Patient Zero has given you some <a href="/wiki/Potato_pancake" title="Potato pancake">Potato pancakes</a>! Potato pancakes promote <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">WikiLove</a> and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else some Potato pancakes, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy Hanukkah! </p><p>To spread the goodness of Potato pancake, you can add {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Potato_pancakes" title="Template:Potato pancakes">Potato pancakes</a>}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message! </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> </div> <pre><a href="/wiki/User:Patient_Zero" title="User:Patient Zero"><b>Patient Zero</b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patient_Zero" title="User talk:Patient Zero"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Patient_Zero-20231208060600-Chag_urim_sameach!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patient_Zero-20231208060600-Chag_urim_sameach!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patient_Zero-20231208060600-Chag_urim_sameach!"></span> </pre> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="'zinbot_seems_to_be_down" data-mw-thread-id="h-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down-20240413161600"><span id=".27zinbot_seems_to_be_down"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down-20240413161600"></span>'zinbot seems to be down<span data-mw-comment-end="h-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down-20240413161600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1227084136">.mw-parser-output .tracked{float:right;clear:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;width:12em;border:1px solid #72777d;border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked-closure{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}</style><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phabricator:">Phabricator</a><br/><span class="tracked-url"><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363552" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T363552"><span class="trakfab-T363552"> Task T363552</span></a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20240413161600-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down"></span>Last patrol <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/pagetriage-curation/%27zinbot" title="Special:Log/pagetriage-curation/'zinbot">April 4</a>. I noticed this when a redirect I created that was sent to RfD was patrolled by a human new page reviewer. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pppery-20240413161600-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20240413161600-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20240413161600-'zinbot_seems_to_be_down"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20240424215900-Pppery-20240413161600"></span>This is still an issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pppery-20240424215900-Pppery-20240413161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20240424215900-Pppery-20240413161600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20240424215900-Pppery-20240413161600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240426005600-Pppery-20240424215900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheresNoTime" title="User:TheresNoTime">TheresNoTime</a>: You had set this up on Toolforge. Do you know what's up? <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240426005600-Pppery-20240424215900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240426005600-Pppery-20240424215900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240426005600-Pppery-20240424215900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheresNoTime-20240426081600-Tamzin-20240426005600"></span>The last error was; <dl><dd><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>==> zinbot.err <== return self.request('GET', url, **kwargs) File "/data/project/zinbot/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 542, in request resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs) File "/data/project/zinbot/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 655, in send r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs) File "/data/project/zinbot/venv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 498, in send raise ConnectionError(err, request=request) requests.exceptions.ConnectionError: ('Connection aborted.', ConnectionResetError(104, 'Connection reset by peer')) CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception <class 'requests.exceptions.ConnectionError'> Sleeping for 120.0 seconds, 2024-04-20 09:22:49</pre></div></dd></dl></dd> <dd>so I've restarted everything (<code>toolforge-jobs flush && toolforge-jobs load jobs.yaml</code>) and there doesn't <i>seem</i> to be any new errors. I'll keep an eye for a bit.. — <a href="/wiki/User:TheresNoTime" title="User:TheresNoTime">TheresNoTime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheresNoTime" title="User talk:TheresNoTime">talk</a> • they/them) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-TheresNoTime-20240426081600-Tamzin-20240426005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheresNoTime-20240426081600-Tamzin-20240426005600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheresNoTime-20240426081600-Tamzin-20240426005600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheresNoTime-20240426083300-TheresNoTime-20240426081600"></span>hm, still not running (I think..?) — I've tried <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Python#Jobs" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Python">recreating the venv</a>, no joy.. I'll keep digging for a bit and let you know — <a href="/wiki/User:TheresNoTime" title="User:TheresNoTime">TheresNoTime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheresNoTime" title="User talk:TheresNoTime">talk</a> • they/them) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-TheresNoTime-20240426083300-TheresNoTime-20240426081600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheresNoTime-20240426083300-TheresNoTime-20240426081600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheresNoTime-20240426083300-TheresNoTime-20240426081600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo" data-mw-thread-id="h-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo-20240416000200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo-20240416000200"></span>DYK for Cover-up tattoo<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo-20240416000200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-20240416000200-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/40px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="81" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/80px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2024/April#16_April_2024" title="Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April">16 April 2024</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know" title="Template:Did you know">Did you know</a></b> was updated with a fact from the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Cover-up_tattoo" title="Cover-up tattoo">Cover-up tattoo</a></b></i>, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was <i>... that some <b><a href="/wiki/Cover-up_tattoo" title="Cover-up tattoo">cover-up tattoos</a></b> incorporate scars into their designs </i>(example pictured)<i><span style="padding-left:0.15em;">?</span></i> The nomination discussion and review may be seen at <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Cover-up_tattoo" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Cover-up tattoo">Template:Did you know nominations/Cover-up tattoo</a>. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Rjanag/Pageview_stats" title="User:Rjanag/Pageview stats">here's how</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2024-04-06&end=2024-04-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cover-up_tattoo">Cover-up tattoo</a>)</small>, and the hook may be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders">the statistics page</a> after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know" title="Template talk:Did you know">Did you know talk page</a>. </p> </div> </div><p> —<a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Ganesha811-20240416000200-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-20240416000200-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-20240416000200-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span> </p><table style="border: 4px outset gray; background: linear-gradient(135deg, #d0e3b5, #b0dab9 67%);"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GalliumBot-20240417032800-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Updated_DYK_query.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/30px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/45px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Updated_DYK_query.svg/60px-Updated_DYK_query.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="35" data-file-height="71"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;"><b>Hook update</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Your hook reached 30,998 views (1,291.6 per hour), making it one of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics/Monthly_DYK_pageview_leaders/2024/April#Cover-up_tattoo" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders/2024/April">most viewed hooks of April 2024</a> – nice work! </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:GalliumBot" title="User:GalliumBot">GalliumBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GalliumBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GalliumBot">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GalliumBot" title="Special:Contributions/GalliumBot">contribs</a>) (he/<a href="/wiki/It_(pronoun)" title="It (pronoun)">it</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-GalliumBot-20240417032800-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GalliumBot-20240417032800-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GalliumBot-20240417032800-DYK_for_Cover-up_tattoo"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster-20240418042300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster-20240418042300"></span>Your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles" title="Wikipedia:Good articles">GA</a> nomination of <a href="/wiki/1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster" title="1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster">1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster-20240418042300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pi.1415926535-20240418042300-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster"></span>The article <a href="/wiki/1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster" title="1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster">1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster</a> you nominated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations" title="Wikipedia:Good article nominations">good article</a> has passed <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/20px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/40px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span>; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster" title="Talk:1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster">Talk:1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster</a> for comments about the article, and <a href="/wiki/Talk:1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster/GA1" title="Talk:1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster/GA1">Talk:1967 Lake Erie skydiving disaster/GA1</a> for the nomination. Well done! If the article is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Guidelines#Newness" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines">eligible to appear</a> in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Create_new_nomination" title="Wikipedia:Did you know/Create new nomination">nominate it</a> within the next seven days. <small>Message delivered by <a href="/wiki/User:ChristieBot" title="User:ChristieBot">ChristieBot</a>, on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a></small> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Pi.1415926535" title="User:Pi.1415926535">Pi.1415926535</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pi.1415926535" title="User talk:Pi.1415926535">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Pi.1415926535-20240418042300-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pi.1415926535-20240418042300-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pi.1415926535-20240418042300-Your_GA_nomination_of_1967_Lake_Erie_skydiving_disaster"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_cheeseburger_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_cheeseburger_for_you!-20240428151500"><span id="A_cheeseburger_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_cheeseburger_for_you!-20240428151500"></span>A cheeseburger for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_cheeseburger_for_you!-20240428151500"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aryatheautistic-20240428151500-A_cheeseburger_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Cheeseburger.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Cheeseburger.png/120px-Cheeseburger.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="80" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Cheeseburger.png/180px-Cheeseburger.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Cheeseburger.png/240px-Cheeseburger.png 2x" data-file-width="2700" data-file-height="1800"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Hi! Tamzin <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Aryatheautistic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Aryatheautistic (page does not exist)">User:Aryatheautistic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Aryatheautistic-20240428151500-A_cheeseburger_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aryatheautistic-20240428151500-A_cheeseburger_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aryatheautistic-20240428151500-A_cheeseburger_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Capri-Sun" data-mw-thread-id="h-Capri-Sun-20240504204400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Capri-Sun-20240504204400"></span><a href="/wiki/Capri-Sun" title="Capri-Sun">Capri-Sun</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Capri-Sun-20240504204400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wehwalt-20240504204400-Capri-Sun"></span>This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TFA">today's featured article</a> for 22 June 2024. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/June_2024" title="Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 2024">Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 2024</a>, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Today%27s_featured_article/June_2024" title="Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/June 2024">Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/June 2024</a>. Please keep an eye on that page, as comments regarding the draft blurb may be left there by <a href="/wiki/User:Dying" title="User:Dying">user:dying</a>, who assists the coordinators by making suggestions on the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors" title="Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors">Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors</a> from two days before the article appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—<a href="/wiki/User:Wehwalt" title="User:Wehwalt">Wehwalt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wehwalt" title="User talk:Wehwalt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Wehwalt-20240504204400-Capri-Sun" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wehwalt-20240504204400-Capri-Sun"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wehwalt-20240504204400-Capri-Sun"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FAC_nomination_input_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAC_nomination_input_request-20240514021200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAC_nomination_input_request-20240514021200"></span>FAC nomination input request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAC_nomination_input_request-20240514021200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dugan_Murphy-20240514021200-FAC_nomination_input_request"></span>Tamzin, since you have already taken the time to read through <a href="/wiki/B%C3%A4ckadr%C3%A4kten" title="Bäckadräkten">Bäckadräkten</a> for its recent DYK nomination, I wonder if you wouldn't mind leaving a few comments on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/B%C3%A4ckadr%C3%A4kten/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bäckadräkten/archive1">its current FAC nomination</a>. It's been up for just over a week with only one reviewer so far. My appreciation in advance if you're able to help! <a href="/wiki/User:Dugan_Murphy" title="User:Dugan Murphy">Dugan Murphy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dugan_Murphy" title="User talk:Dugan Murphy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Dugan_Murphy-20240514021200-FAC_nomination_input_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dugan_Murphy-20240514021200-FAC_nomination_input_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dugan_Murphy-20240514021200-FAC_nomination_input_request"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FYI" data-mw-thread-id="h-FYI-20240526170400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FYI-20240526170400"></span>FYI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FYI-20240526170400"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400-FYI"></span>You've been researched on:<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2201473X.2024.2358697">[11]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">Gråbergs Gråa Sång</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gr%C3%A5bergs_Gr%C3%A5a_S%C3%A5ng" title="User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400-FYI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400-FYI"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400-FYI"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240526230600-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400"></span>tks. <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin">TK</a> talk <a href="/wiki/To_kome" class="mw-redirect" title="To kome">TK</a>. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240526230600-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240526230600-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240526230600-Gråbergs_Gråa_Sång-20240526170400"></span></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20240530184000"><span id=".22F.E2.99.AF.2A.40bois.22_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20240530184000"></span>"<a href="/wiki/F%E2%99%AF*@bois" class="mw-redirect" title="F♯*@bois">F♯*@bois</a>" listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-20240530184000"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nickps-20240530184000-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> The redirect <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=F%E2%99%AF*@bois&redirect=no">F♯*@bois</a></span> has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">redirects for discussion</a> to determine whether its use and function meets the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirect guidelines</a>. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_30#F♯*@bois" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 30">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 30 § F♯*@bois</a></b> until a consensus is reached. <a href="/wiki/User:Nickps" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Nickps">Nickps</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nickps" title="User talk:Nickps">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Nickps-20240530184000-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nickps-20240530184000-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nickps-20240530184000-"F♯*@bois"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Yesterday" data-mw-thread-id="h-Yesterday-20240626001200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Yesterday-20240626001200"></span>Yesterday<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Yesterday-20240626001200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200-Yesterday"></span>You made me laugh with that revelation of yours. I don't know if you're willing to help me, and I know we might not click properly, but I think I can learn from you and maybe someday communicate on-wiki about how I operate. Treat yourself well, alright? Your mental health is the highest priority. Take care. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Night Watch"><span style="color:black;"><span style="font-size:110%"><i>The Night Watch</i></span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Night Watch"><span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200-Yesterday" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200-Yesterday"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200-Yesterday"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240626193200-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200"></span>I'm doing great, @<a href="/wiki/User:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Night Watch">The Night Watch</a>. Walked on the beach under the full moon the other night, from <a href="/wiki/Delaware_Bay" title="Delaware Bay">bayside</a> to <a href="/wiki/Atlantic_Ocean" title="Atlantic Ocean">seaside</a>, where just by walking in a "straight" line along the shore the moon appears to move across the sky. That was really nice. Been spending most of my creative efforts on a novel-length translation effort into toki pona. We'll see how it goes. <code>:)</code> I hope you're treating yourself well too and enjoying your less-on-the-grid time. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240626193200-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240626193200-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240626193200-The_Night_Watch-20240626001200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240630160300-Tamzin-20240626193200"></span>Talked with a wikifriend on the phone for the first time yesterday. I was really nervous but it was still fun in the end. Anyway, we talked briefly about what it means to get caught up in something bigger than yourself. You know, I think it was unfair for you too to get caught up in something like that. You're human, and you deserved better after spending ten years of your life here. I got trapped in a situation of my own making. I still want to say so many things about it…but I don't know when. Maybe after I get home eventually. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Night Watch"><span style="color:black;"><span style="font-size:110%"><i>The Night Watch</i></span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Night_Watch" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Night Watch"><span style="color:brown;"><span style="font-size:85%;">(talk)</span></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-The_Night_Watch-20240630160300-Tamzin-20240626193200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Night_Watch-20240630160300-Tamzin-20240626193200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Night_Watch-20240630160300-Tamzin-20240626193200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?-20240627010700"><span id="How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?-20240627010700"></span>How and when to remove comment for a talk page archive?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?-20240627010700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neonorange-20240627010700-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?"></span>I accidentally found a very short comment in a talk page comment, only about eight comments in the five years since the article (a BLP) was created. </p><p>Can I just delete the comment from the archive? It is slur that is awful in two ways. I will clean the stable so no one else must. </p><p>Could you advise me or point me to another editor? </p><p>Now for an entirely other subject. When I scan the behind-the-scene spaces here, you write most of my favorite content. Thank you for being here. — <a href="/wiki/User:Neonorange" title="User:Neonorange"><span style="color:orange"><b>N</b></span><b>eonorange</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neonorange" title="User talk:Neonorange">talk to Phil</a>) (he, they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Neonorange-20240627010700-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a> —<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neonorange-20240627010700-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neonorange-20240627010700-How_and_when_to_remove_comment_for_a_talk_page_archive?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240627023900-Neonorange-20240627010700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Neonorange" title="User:Neonorange">Neonorange</a>: Aww shucks. Thanks! As to your question, glancing at your contribs, I can guess the comment you mean. I'd say just throw a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Redacted" title="Template:Redacted">redacted</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> in place of the sentence in question. If the term were directed explicitly at her ("X is...", not "X looks like..."), <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RevDel" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RevDel">RevDel</a> might be appropriate, but here I'd say it falls just a tad short of the line. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240627023900-Neonorange-20240627010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240627023900-Neonorange-20240627010700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240627023900-Neonorange-20240627010700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Neonorange-20240627025100-Tamzin-20240627023900"></span>Thank you very much. And in addition to thanks, you also get an image I found in a recent issue of the <a href="/wiki/Economist" title="Economist">Economist</a>; a fearsome cetacean—when a mistake is <i>really</i> egregious. Just as soon as I can fix my archives access to get a digital image plus the article and caption. I will email to you. Thanks again. — <a href="/wiki/User:Neonorange" title="User:Neonorange"><span style="color:orange"><b>N</b></span><b>eonorange</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Neonorange" title="User talk:Neonorange">talk to Phil</a>) (he, they) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Neonorange-20240627025100-Tamzin-20240627023900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:51, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a> —<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Neonorange-20240627025100-Tamzin-20240627023900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Neonorange-20240627025100-Tamzin-20240627023900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo-20240704194200"><span id="Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration.2FRequests.2FEnforcement"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo-20240704194200"></span>Falun Gong and Judaism: False Equivalence at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo-20240704194200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bloodofox-20240704194200-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo"></span>Back in 2023, you made a comparison that has not sat well with me. The more I consider it, the more outrageous and detrimental to the Wikipedia project I find it. As part of an arbitration decision regarding the extremely controversial new religious movement <a href="/wiki/Falun_Gong" title="Falun Gong">Falun Gong</a> (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1190127476#Bloodofox">[12]</a>), you state, regarding me, "All I can think is how quickly someone would be blocked if they showed up to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Mi_Shebeirach" title="Talk:Mi Shebeirach">Talk:Mi Shebeirach</a> and tried to cite my religion as part of an objection to the article's content". </p><p>This looks a lot like you were comparing antisemitism to anyone daring to mention what appear to be continued and organized attempts at manipulating Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Falun_Gong" title="Falun Gong">Falun Gong</a> page, a reality that we in fact we have discussion of in peer-reviewed academic literature (especially Lewis, James. 2018. <i>Falun Gong: Spiritual Warfare and Martyrdom</i>, p. 30, 80-81, etc. Cambridge University Press). This is not in question with our Falun Gong, <a href="/wiki/Shen_Yun" title="Shen Yun">Shen Yun</a>, and <i><a href="/wiki/Epoch_Times" class="mw-redirect" title="Epoch Times">Epoch Times</a></i> coverage. In turn, anyone foolish enough to edit in those quarters will in fact be interfacing with Falun Gong-aligned editors, many of them <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPAs</a>, who will gang up to silence them, whether by endless talk page and process lawyering or more straightforward revert-warring. Falun Gong-aligned editors will attempt to manipulate the site's coverage to reflect the group's preferred narratives, hoping to return our coverage to the earlier, Falun Gong-approved version. In addition to this necessary but obnoxious work, said user might even have have to deal with a comment here and there like the one you made (quoted above). </p><p>I'm responsible for adding most contemporary reliable sources at <a href="/wiki/Falun_Gong" title="Falun Gong">Falun Gong</a> and related articles, including information about their compound, founder-leader, and well beyond. That has made me an on-site target for editors who don't like that and aggressively attempt to get this information removed. It has led to me receiving threats, veiled and otherwise. As some other editors there noted, this arbitration request was a naked attempt to silence me from editing and adding yet more <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> to these articles. This time it backfired. </p><p>However, that above quoted comment from you was offensive, unhelpful, and simply wrong. It helped nothing. I write about a lot of new religious movement topics on Wikipedia (and only stumbled into Falun Gong-land when researching their claims about folklore). I have had to deal with various instances of attempted outing and attacks that no editor should have to endure on this site because of it, generally with zero support from Wikipedia at large. Like many new religious movements, Falun Gong much prefers to make grand claims of religious persecution rather than discussing the reality of the organization and its extremely well-funded, highly political media arms. It is no doubt going prepping its agenda for the upcoming presidential election, just like it did last time. </p><p>And I have to ask: Are you aware that the Falun Gong is a new religious movement entirely based around the words and whims of one man, <a href="/wiki/Li_Hongzhi" title="Li Hongzhi">Li Hongzhi</a>? Would you have made the comparison to antisemitism and anyone who mentioned the <a href="/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_editing_on_Wikipedia" title="Church of Scientology editing on Wikipedia">Church of Scientology editing on Wikipedia</a>? Please retract your statement. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloodofox" title="User:Bloodofox">:bloodofox:</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloodofox" title="User talk:Bloodofox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bloodofox-20240704194200-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloodofox-20240704194200-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloodofox-20240704194200-Falun_Gong_and_Judaism:_False_Equivalence_at_Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enfo"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240704214600-Bloodofox-20240704194200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bloodofox" title="User:Bloodofox">Bloodofox</a>: I stand by the statement that no editor should attempt to disqualify another editor's fitness to edit based on their religion. That is true for Judaism, it is true for Falun Gong, and it is true for Scientology. That is not the same as attempting to disqualify someone based on improper coordinated editing that may in some cases correlate with religion. (I would know. I busted <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Moksha88" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Moksha88">such a meatpuppetry ring</a> in the <a href="/wiki/BAPS" class="mw-redirect" title="BAPS">BAPS</a> topic area.) There is a difference between having religious views related to a subject one edits and editing at the behest of religious leadership. You, and a number of other editors, failed to heed that distinction, which is why I warned editors in the Falun Gong topic area generally, and you specifically, to knock it off. I stand by that, and it is hard to convey how disappointed I am that, half a year later, you not only refuse to accept the warning but have dwelled on it to such a degree that you have spontaneously demanded an apology. If I were still an admin, I'd be inclined to take this comment as <i>prima facie</i> evidence that you cannot edit civilly in the topic area, and impose a topic ban. But fortunately for both of us, I am not an admin anymore. Which means that, in fact, I couldn't take back what I said even if I wanted to, because it is substantively the same as the logged warning, which I lack the power to amend or rescind. If you would like to appeal that warning, you may do so as described at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP#Appeals_and_amendments" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">WP:CTOP § Appeals and amendments</a>. But please do think on what I've said. Your fellow editors are your equals, regardless of religion, regardless of what the institutions affiliated with their religion might do. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240704214600-Bloodofox-20240704194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240704214600-Bloodofox-20240704194200"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240704214600-Bloodofox-20240704194200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bloodofox-20240705001700-Tamzin-20240704214600"></span>I had forgotten about this all until it came up again in a recent exchange at <a href="/wiki/Falun_Gong" title="Falun Gong">Falun Gong</a>, where you're essentially handed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPA</a> editors there a shield to to deflect questions regarding their activity surrounding on article. And, yes, good thing you're not an admin then because I certainly don't appreciate the would-be threat, which is itself outrageous and inappropriate.</dd> <dd>I strongly suggest you consider the difference between a hugely diverse and ancient religion and a new religious movement centered around a single man whose adherents seek to polish his movement's media coverage by way of manipulating Wikipedia articles and the fallout that can occur when conflate these huge differences between the two. And that's well-recorded by scholars in the area, whether you acknowledge it or not.</dd> <dd>A reminder: We don't write articles around the preferences of religious groups, period, and when a religious org, like any other org, attempts to influence coverage, it needs to be called out explicitly and clearly. Invoking notions of antisemitism when editors like myself do exactly is absolutely unacceptable and merits strong pushback. All editors on the site are equal, yes, but <i>not all edits</i>: we have instance after instance or organized attempts at manipulating coverage here, and when you might have to chose to help those of us who go to bat against this kind of manipulation, it appears you instead decided to give them a little gift. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloodofox" title="User:Bloodofox">:bloodofox:</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloodofox" title="User talk:Bloodofox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bloodofox-20240705001700-Tamzin-20240704214600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloodofox-20240705001700-Tamzin-20240704214600"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloodofox-20240705001700-Tamzin-20240704214600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240705003000-Bloodofox-20240705001700"></span>If you can't see the difference between preventing organized manipulation of religious articles and targeting people for whatever religious beliefs they may privately hold, you should not be editing in the topic area. There was consensus to warn you for this last year. Please either accept this consensus or appeal it. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240705003000-Bloodofox-20240705001700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240705003000-Bloodofox-20240705001700"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240705003000-Bloodofox-20240705001700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bloodofox-20240705003900-Tamzin-20240705003000"></span>Again, the organized manipulation was and is the problem, which I've repeatedly noted (and which peer-reviewed material from experts have noted), and your invocation of antisemitism in that context was outrageous and bizarre. Adherents don't call the shots on our coverage, organized or not, and they don't get special treatment: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> rules the day. Telling the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPA">WP:SPAs</a> to stick to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> was the easy move there. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloodofox" title="User:Bloodofox">:bloodofox:</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloodofox" title="User talk:Bloodofox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Bloodofox-20240705003900-Tamzin-20240705003000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloodofox-20240705003900-Tamzin-20240705003000"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloodofox-20240705003900-Tamzin-20240705003000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamzin-20240705020400-Bloodofox-20240705003900"></span>You seem to be arguing against something I didn't say. If you want me to affirm that religious editors can't manipulate or POV-push any more than irreligious ones can, well then, of course, but I never said otherwise. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin" title="User:Tamzin"><span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span></a></span><sup class="nowrap">[<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin" title="User talk:Tamzin"><i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i></a>]</sup> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:Tamzin/%F0%9F%A4%B7" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Tamzin/🤷">they|xe</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12#c-Tamzin-20240705020400-Bloodofox-20240705003900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamzin-20240705020400-Bloodofox-20240705003900"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamzin-20240705020400-Bloodofox-20240705003900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12&oldid=1256939215">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tamzin/Archive/12&oldid=1256939215</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden categories: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors" title="Category:Pages with syntax highlighting errors">Pages with syntax highlighting errors</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Noindexed_pages" title="Category:Noindexed pages">Noindexed pages</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 12 November 2024, at 09:23<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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