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Polymer may also be employed unambiguously as an adjective, according to accepted usage, e.g. <i>polymer blend</i>, <i>polymer molecule</i><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>. </p><p>The reasons are as follows: </p> <ul><li>The sentences are lifted verbatim from a 1996 IUPAC report. The citation is not noted in quotations and may constitute plagiarism. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iupac.org/reports/1996/6812jenkins/preamble.html">Original Source</a></li> <li>The IUPAC recommendation appears to be an attempt to disambiguate the usage of the term <b>polymer</b>among polymer scientists. The full report <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iupac.org/reports/1996/6812jenkins/preamble.html">(here)</a> suggests that the terms <b>macromolecules</b> and <b>polymer molecule</b> are indistinguishable. This may be true for the narrow purview of polymer science but ignores the well-established practice of describing large biologicall molecules (such as proteins, which are rarely described as polymers) or lipids (definitely not polymers) as macromolecules.</li></ul> <p>That being said, the referenced IUPAC report has some valuable information which should be added in future revisions to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Irene_Ringworm" title="User:Irene Ringworm">Irene Ringworm</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Irene_Ringworm-2007-02-23T18:59:00.000Z-IUPAC_recommendation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Irene_Ringworm-2007-02-23T18:59:00.000Z-IUPAC_recommendation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-BetacommandBot-2007-11-10T09:59:00.000Z-WikiProject_class_rating"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BetacommandBot-2007-11-10T09:59:00.000Z-WikiProject_class_rating"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>Merge discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Merge discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span 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The <a href="/wiki/DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macromolecules_of_life" class="mw-redirect" title="DNA, RNA and proteins: The three essential macromolecules of life">DNA, RNA, protein</a> page has far fewer visits but currently the more useful information. <a href="/wiki/User:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User:Evolution and evolvability">T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User talk:Evolution and evolvability">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-04-25T00:55:00.000Z-Merge_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 25 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-04-25T00:55:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-04-25T00:55:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:15:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"></span>I've gone ahead and merged the articles, since I think that the information is useful here and <a href="/wiki/Macromolecule" title="Macromolecule">macromolecule</a> gets 4 times the traffic. I've also edited the prose to fit encyclopaedic style a little more. <a href="/wiki/User:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User:Evolution and evolvability">T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User talk:Evolution and evolvability">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:15:00.000Z-Merge_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:15, 28 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:15:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:15:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:24:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"></span>I've added a branched biopolymers section. Someone with more chemistry knowledge will have to deal with synthetic macromolecules. <a href="/wiki/User:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User:Evolution and evolvability">T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evolution_and_evolvability" title="User talk:Evolution and evolvability">talk</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:24:00.000Z-Merge_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:24, 28 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:24:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Evolution_and_evolvability-2015-06-28T06:24:00.000Z-Merge_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macromolecules_of_life" data-mw-thread-id="h-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"><span id="Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA.2C_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macromolecules_of_life"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span>Old talk section moved over from <a href="/wiki/DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macromolecules_of_life" class="mw-redirect" title="DNA, RNA and proteins: The three essential macromolecules of life">DNA, RNA and proteins: The three essential macromolecules of life</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr-Merge_discussion-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Old talk section moved over from DNA, RNA and proteins: The three essential macromolecules of life"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_Mackenzie_Burke-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr"></span>The purpose of this article is to provide a single location whereby people who are confused about molecular biology can come to understand the functional and chemical differences between DNA, RNA and proteins. <a href="/wiki/User:John_Mackenzie_Burke" title="User:John Mackenzie Burke">John Mackenzie Burke</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_Mackenzie_Burke" title="User talk:John Mackenzie Burke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-John_Mackenzie_Burke-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 3 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_Mackenzie_Burke-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_Mackenzie_Burke-2011-06-03T12:51:00.000Z-Old_talk_section_moved_over_from_DNA,_RNA_and_proteins:_The_three_essential_macr"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assessment_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assessment_comment-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assessment_comment-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z"></span>Assessment comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assessment_comment-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Assessment comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tameeria-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"></span> The comment(s) below were originally left at <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule/Comments&redirect=no">Talk:Macromolecule/Comments</a></span>, and are posted here for posterity. Following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DCS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DCS">several discussions in past years</a>, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.</p><table style="width:100%; background-color:#eaf8f4; border-left:3px solid #008560;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2">Rated "top" as high school/SAT biology content; applies to many biomolecules such as DNA and proteins. - <a href="/wiki/User:Tameeria" title="User:Tameeria">tameeria</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Tameeria-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z-Assessment_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tameeria-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tameeria-2007-03-11T01:09:00.000Z-Assessment_comment"></span></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Last edited at 01:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 22:45, 29 April 2016 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="General_Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-General_Comments-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-General_Comments-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z"></span>General Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-General_Comments-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: General Comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polymer33-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span>I found the article to be heavily focused on linear polymers, such as DNA and RNA. In fact, a bulk of the article revolves around the central dogma and how DNA encodes the for RNA, which will ultimately encode proteins. Also, there is a clear bias, in that the author uses words like "far better" when phrases such as "more efficient" can be used to separate the functional consequences of the structures of both DNA and RNA. The section on branched polymers is quite sparse, and ideally, should include the specific alpha and beta linkages that are seen amongst glucose polymers to form glycogen, cellulose, and etc. Yes, there are links to those aforementioned articles, however, a brief discussion may be useful. As mentioned earlier, there is a clear preference for biological macromolecules and very little material devoted to synthetic macromolecules<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Polymer33&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Polymer33 (page does not exist)">Polymer33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polymer33" title="User talk:Polymer33">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Polymer33-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z-General_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 6 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polymer33-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polymer33-2017-04-06T18:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polymersrock-2019-04-02T02:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span>I think that the "Properties" section of the article could use extensive editing and addition of material. As of now, it only mentions insolubility and alteration of rates/equilibrium constants. There is also a lack of good citations in this section. More properties should be added, such as crystallinity, heat conductivity, permeability, thermal expansion, etc. It should also be explained more in depth in the beginning of this section why exactly there are different properties for macromolecules compared to smaller molecules. Then, this can be expanded to relate to the specific properties that are important for macromolecules, as mentioned previously. -<a href="/wiki/User:Polymersrock" title="User:Polymersrock">Polymersrock</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polymersrock" title="User talk:Polymersrock">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Polymersrock-2019-04-02T02:01:00.000Z-General_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 2 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polymersrock-2019-04-02T02:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polymersrock-2019-04-02T02:01:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chemdartmouth115-2019-04-05T03:03:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span>The article did a good job at defining the term "macromolecule" by covering its usage in a variety of disciplines such as biology and chemistry, and the intricacies of its IUPAC definition. However, the section on "Properties" could be improved and appears to be in need of additional information and citations. For example, more information could be provided to explain specifically how macromolecules have unusual properties that do not occur for smaller molecules. Furthermore, I think the article placed a lot of emphasis on linear bipolymers including DNA, RNA, and proteins, and could expand more on the sections focused on branched bipolymers and synthetic macromolecules. Also, citations should be incorporated into the "Synthetic Macromolecules" section to offer more credibility. <a href="/wiki/User:Chemdartmouth115" title="User:Chemdartmouth115">Chemdartmouth115</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chemdartmouth115" title="User talk:Chemdartmouth115">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Chemdartmouth115-2019-04-05T03:03:00.000Z-General_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chemdartmouth115-2019-04-05T03:03:00.000Z-General_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chemdartmouth115-2019-04-05T03:03:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nekosenseiii-2021-04-07T14:10:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span>The structure of this article seems confusing to me. The article introduces macromolecules by dividing the topic into two main categories: biopolymers and synthetic macromolecules. However, the synthetic macromolecules part takes only one paragraph. In addition, the author mentioned macrocycles in the lead but it is not explained in the article. The biopolymers section only includes linear polymers and branched polymers. This article is more about linear biopolymers but not macromolecules.--<a href="/wiki/User:Nekosenseiii" title="User:Nekosenseiii">Nekosenseiii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nekosenseiii" title="User talk:Nekosenseiii">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Nekosenseiii-2021-04-07T14:10:00.000Z-General_Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nekosenseiii-2021-04-07T14:10:00.000Z-General_Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nekosenseiii-2021-04-07T14:10:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alanzhangyj-2021-04-13T06:03:00.000Z-General_Comments"></span>I have a quick comment on the Figure "dendrimers". 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They are not, at least not to those chemists working in the field. - 15:41, 3 February 2020 <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2405:204:A021:A4B0:C249:2573:2351:1114" title="Special:Contributions/2405:204:A021:A4B0:C249:2573:2351:1114"><bdi>2405:204:a021:a4b0:c249:2573:2351:1114</bdi></a> (talk) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Non-biological_macromolecules" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-biological_macromolecules-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-biological_macromolecules-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Non-biological macromolecules<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-biological_macromolecules-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Non-biological macromolecules"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boldklub-PJs-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z-Non-biological_macromolecules"></span>Diamonds, graphene, carbon fibers (nano-tubules), and silicone analogs constitute a large unaddressed category of macromolecules that might reasonably be addressed here. <a href="/wiki/User:Boldklub-PJs" title="User:Boldklub-PJs">Boldklub-PJs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boldklub-PJs" title="User talk:Boldklub-PJs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macromolecule#c-Boldklub-PJs-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z-Non-biological_macromolecules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boldklub-PJs-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z-Non-biological_macromolecules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boldklub-PJs-2021-05-20T21:56:00.000Z-Non-biological_macromolecules"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&oldid=1217945791">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macromolecule&oldid=1217945791</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Molecular_Biology_articles" title="Category:C-Class Molecular Biology articles">C-Class Molecular Biology articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_Molecular_Biology_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance Molecular Biology articles">Unknown-importance Molecular Biology articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_MCB_articles" title="Category:C-Class MCB articles">C-Class MCB articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_MCB_articles" title="Category:High-importance MCB articles">High-importance MCB articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Molecular_and_Cellular_Biology_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology articles">WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Molecular_Biology_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Molecular Biology pages">All WikiProject Molecular Biology pages</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Chemistry_articles" title="Category:C-Class Chemistry articles">C-Class Chemistry articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Chemistry_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Chemistry articles">Mid-importance Chemistry articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Chemistry_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Chemistry articles">WikiProject Chemistry articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 8 April 2024, at 20:53<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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