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oudheid</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="nl" dir="ltr"><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-In_de_oudheid-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z-In_de_oudheid"],"text":"In de oudheid","linkableTitle":"In de oudheid"}--><h2 id="In_de_oudheid" data-mw-thread-id="h-In_de_oudheid-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-In_de_oudheid-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z"></span>In de oudheid<span data-mw-comment-end="h-In_de_oudheid-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg:Steenmarter&action=edit&section=1" title="De broncode bewerken van de sectie: In de oudheid"><span>brontekst bewerken</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Laatste bericht: <a href="#c-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z-In_de_oudheid">11 jaar geleden</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 bericht</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 persoon in overleg</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-In_de_oudheid-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z-In_de_oudheid"],"text":"In de oudheid","linkableTitle":"In de oudheid"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steinbach-2013-04-14T16:19:00.000Z-In_de_oudheid"></span>"We weten dat men in de Oudheid nog geen kat als huisdier hield. Kleine roofdieren als fretten, hermelijnen en misschien marters namen hun plaats in als bestrijders van knaagdieren." Ja hallo, en de oude Egyptenaren dan? 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