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When you pour stuff down the sink or flush it down the toilet, where does it go? Luckily, we don't need to think about it...until somebody does the wrong thing.</p> <p>That's when we should hail the invisible, unsung heroes of this story. That's right, these are the people that go down into the bowels - literally - of a city's plumbing to do what must be done.</p> <p>We can do our bit, it's not difficult... think before you flush.</p> <p>Here, Rod interviews Davina McCormick, General Manger Customer Engagement at ICON water.</p> <p>If you're in Floriade this weekend (21-22 Sep), be sure to see their display. 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you know the term <em>cognitive dissonance</em>, it applies to ability of a person to hold entirely incompatible ideas in their head at the same time. If people can have it, so can a government. Take these two statements:</p> <p>1) We will work towards a sustainable future</p> <p>2) We will pursue economic growth</p> <p>The evidence is overwhelming:聽 we cannot do both of these things because economic growth is the antithesis of sustainability. 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class="e-description text-two-line card-text"><p>If there were a single invention of humanity that you remove, what would that be? In this episode we revisit a personal story broadcast on Radio National in 2006.</p> <p>This is part of our series, <a href="https://sustainablecivilisation.com/category/podcasts/rethinking-sustainability/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rethinking Sustainability</a>.</p> <div class="is-root-container is-desktop-preview is-layout-flow wp-block-post-content block-editor-block-list__layout"><img class="wp-image-578" style="width: 268px; height: 358px; display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; float: left;" src="https://sustainablecivilisation.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/War-poster-Tintaldra-Medium-rotated.jpg" alt="This image has an empty alt attribute; its file name is War-poster-Tintaldra-Medium-rotated.jpg" /><div>聽</div> </div></p></div><div class="read-more"><a href="/e/the-worst-invention/" class="text-decoration-none text-truncate"> Read more <svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="16" height="16" fill="currentColor" class="bi bi-arrow-right" 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Heather Massie shares her story in bringing the life of Hedy Lamar to the stage through her one-woman play HEDY! The Life & Inventions of Hedy Lamarr. Then, Liz Lea and the Chameleon Collective share their experience telling a story of a reef through dance in the show Reef Up!\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003EFor more details on HEDY! The Life & Inventions of Hedy Lamarr and to book tickets head to \u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fgcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com\u002F?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heathermassie.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7CAbdelghaniGA%40state.gov%7Cbfa8f66a5486403ba66408da70825b8e%7C66cf50745afe48d1a691a12b2121f44b%7C0%7C0%7C637946002441492603%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=91qDMUxcA635G51aqsw23CVBnDdDnRKQZU92IsU1Spo%3D&reserved=0\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\"\u003Ewww.HeatherMassie.com\u002FHedy\u003C\u002Fa\u003E聽\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003EFor more details on Reef UP! and to book tickets head to \u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.thestellarcompany.com\u002F\\\"\u003Ehttps:\u002F\u002Fwww.thestellarcompany.com\u002F\u003C\u002Fa\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003EMore National Science Week events can be found at \u003Ca href=\\\"http:\u002F\u002Fwww.scienceweek.net.au\\\"\u003Ewww.scienceweek.net.au\u003C\u002Fa\u003E聽\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003E聽\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\",\"content\":null,\"publishTimestamp\":1723377188,\"duration\":3336,\"mediaUrl\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fmcdn.podbean.com\u002Fmf\u002Fweb\u002F5527xy36tpuc8zgs\u002F20240811_Science_Meets_Art6lmci.mp3\",\"mediaType\":\"audio\u002Fmpeg\",\"shareLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fadmin5.podbean.com\u002Fembed.html?id=pb-4w2w2-16990ac\",\"likedCount\":0,\"deepLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.podbean.com\u002Few\u002Fpb-4w2w2-16990ac\",\"transcriptUrl\":null,\"permalink\":\"\u002Fe\u002Fscience-meets-art\u002F\",\"downloadLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.podbean.com\u002Fsite\u002FEpisodeDownload\u002FPB16990AC4W2W2\",\"fallbackResource\":null,\"fallbackResourceMimetype\":null,\"downloadCount\":62,\"status\":\"publish\",\"hasMoreContent\":false,\"chaptersUrl\":null},{\"id\":\"pb23446629\",\"idTag\":\"brhmn\",\"title\":\"The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation.\",\"logo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fpbcdn1.podbean.com\u002Fimglogo\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb_300x300.jpg\",\"shareLogo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fd2bwo9zemjwxh5.cloudfront.net\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb_1200x628.jpg?s=d9703d800e4ce0476a4616ed1604e138&e=jpg\",\"largeLogo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fpbcdn1.podbean.com\u002Fimglogo\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb.jpg\",\"previewContent\":\"\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan style=\\\"color:#0d0d0d;font-family:Roboto, Noto, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:#ffffff;float:none;\\\"\u003EHow far off 'sustainability' are we today? How did we get here, and where do we go next? These are questions tackled by Rod Taylor at a U3A event in June. \u003C\u002Fspan\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan style=\\\"color:#0d0d0d;font-family:Roboto, Noto, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:#ffffff;float:none;\\\"\u003EThis wide ranging talk is based on the book co-authored with Mark Diesendorf,\u003Cem\u003E\u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fsustainablecivilisation.com\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\"\u003E The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation\u003C\u002Fa\u003E.\u003C\u002Fem\u003E\u003C\u002Fspan\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003EOther links:聽\u003Cbr \u002F\u003ESustainable Population Australia \u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fpopulation.org.au\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\"\u003Ehttps:\u002F\u002Fpopulation.org.au\u003C\u002Fa\u003E \u003Cbr \u002F\u003ESteady State ACT \u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fsteadystateact.org\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\"\u003Ehttps:\u002F\u002Fsteadystateact.org\u003C\u002Fa\u003E \u003Cbr \u002F\u003ETouching the Void \u003Ca href=\\\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=lHYwxoYsK0A&ab_channel=WackyWanderlust\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\"\u003Ehttps:\u002F\u002Fwww.youtube.com\u002Fwatch?v=lHYwxoYsK0A&ab_channel=WackyWanderlust\u003C\u002Fa\u003E\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003E聽\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\",\"content\":null,\"publishTimestamp\":1720059130,\"duration\":2939,\"mediaUrl\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fmcdn.podbean.com\u002Fmf\u002Fweb\u002Fmu9dhrkfv6b4ykha\u002FU3A_talk_26_June_2024_Goodwin_Farrer_edited6jo0k.mp3\",\"mediaType\":\"audio\u002Fmpeg\",\"shareLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fadmin5.podbean.com\u002Fembed.html?id=pb-brhmn-165c465\",\"likedCount\":0,\"deepLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.podbean.com\u002Few\u002Fpb-brhmn-165c465\",\"transcriptUrl\":null,\"permalink\":\"\u002Fe\u002Fthe-path-to-a-sustainable-civilisation-1720059130\u002F\",\"downloadLink\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fwww.podbean.com\u002Fsite\u002FEpisodeDownload\u002FPB165C465BRHMN\",\"fallbackResource\":null,\"fallbackResourceMimetype\":null,\"downloadCount\":49,\"status\":\"publish\",\"hasMoreContent\":false,\"chaptersUrl\":null},{\"id\":\"pb23358562\",\"idTag\":\"qkkcz\",\"title\":\"The Myth of Growth\",\"logo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fpbcdn1.podbean.com\u002Fimglogo\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb_300x300.jpg\",\"shareLogo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fd2bwo9zemjwxh5.cloudfront.net\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb_1200x628.jpg?s=d9703d800e4ce0476a4616ed1604e138&e=jpg\",\"largeLogo\":\"https:\u002F\u002Fpbcdn1.podbean.com\u002Fimglogo\u002Fimage-logo\u002F84694\u002FPodbean_Banner_Square888wb.jpg\",\"previewContent\":\"\u003Cp\u003EIf you know the term \u003Cem\u003Ecognitive dissonance\u003C\u002Fem\u003E, it applies to ability of a person to hold entirely incompatible ideas in their head at the same time. If people can have it, so can a government. Take these two statements:\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003E1) We will work towards a sustainable future\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003E2) We will pursue economic growth\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\\n\u003Cp\u003EThe evidence is overwhelming:聽 we cannot do both of these things because economic growth is the antithesis of sustainability. 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