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Welcome to the <b>Wikimedia <a href="/wiki/Meta:About_Meta" class="mw-redirect" title="Meta:About Meta">Meta-Wiki</a></b>! This website is for coordinating and discussing all <a href="/wiki/Complete_list_of_Wikimedia_projects" title="Complete list of Wikimedia projects">Wikimedia projects</a>. You may find it useful to read our <a href="/wiki/Meta:Policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Meta:Policy">policy page</a>. If you are interested in doing translations, visit <a href="/wiki/Meta:Babylon" title="Meta:Babylon">Meta:Babylon</a>. You can also leave a note on <a href="/wiki/Meta:Babel" title="Meta:Babel">Meta:Babel</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum" title="Wikimedia Forum">Wikimedia Forum</a> if you need help with something (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing! </p> </div> </div> <p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Meta-Wiki_Welcome" title="User:Meta-Wiki Welcome">Meta-Wiki Welcome</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meta-Wiki_Welcome" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Meta-Wiki Welcome">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Meta-Wiki_Welcome-2014-01-10T17:08:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Meta!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meta-Wiki_Welcome-2014-01-10T17:08:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Meta!"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meta-Wiki_Welcome-2014-01-10T17:08:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Meta!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-S\u00e4nger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Mail_ist_angekommen...-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-S\u00e4nger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Mail ist angekommen...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Mail ist angekommen...&quot;}--><h2 id="Mail_ist_angekommen..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Mail_ist_angekommen...-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mail_ist_angekommen...-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"></span>Mail ist angekommen...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mail_ist_angekommen...-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Mail ist angekommen..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sänger-2021-07-02T11:30:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-S\u00e4nger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Mail_ist_angekommen...-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-S\u00e4nger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen...&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Mail ist angekommen...&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Mail ist angekommen...&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen..."></span>...Ping auch. Ich kann zwar recht gut Englisch, aber augenscheinlich nicht gut genug, um in irgendwelche Formulierungsfallen zu tappen, die dann von (WMF)ern, die keine Kritik hören wollen, als Verstoß gegen <a href="/wiki/WM:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="WM:CIVIL">WM:CIVIL</a> ausgelegt werden können, um Sperren auszusprechen. Insbesondere bei Phab und MediaWiki gibt es zudem keinerlei ordentliches Verfahren, was solche Sperren angeht. Dort wird in irgendwelchen vollkommen intransparenten Hinterzimmern von irgendwelchen (WMF)ern intern ausgekungelt und beschlossen, ohne Anhörung, ohne direkte Aussprache und auch ohne normale Revisionsinstanz der Community. Abbügeln von validen Argumenten und Ignorieren der Community iseitens derer, die ihre persönlichen Lieblingsprojekte gegen die Community durchprügeln wollen ist vollkommen in Ordnung, es kann sogar jemand <i>Head of Trust and Safety</i> werden, der einen aggressiven Angriff auf die Community technisch ausgeführt hat und sich afaik für dieses antiwikimedianischer Verhalten nie offen entschuldigt hat bei seinen Opfern. Wenn ich allerdings offensichtlich absichtliche Unwahrheiten in der Pseudoargumentation der Projekt-Puscher als solche benenne, gelte ich als <i>incivil</i>. Das ist der Grund für mein häufiges Schreiben auf Deutsch. </p><p>Daneben allerdings auch die monolinguale anglozentrische Arroganz der enWPler, die einfach nur nervt. <i>What do they know of England, who only England know</i>. Da schreibe ich auch gerne mal absichtlich auf <s>Englisch</s><small>[siehe unten]</small>, damit die auch mal mitbekommen, das es mehr als eine Sprache auf der Welt gibt. Grüße vom <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A4nger" title="User:Sänger">Sänger ♫</a><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A4nger" title="User talk:Sänger">Reden</a>)</sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 2 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen..."><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z-Mail_ist_angekommen..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A4nger" title="User:Sänger">Sänger</a>:</span> Danke soweit. Liest du hier mit oder brauchst du pings? Mit dem technischen Angriff meinst du den Superschutz? <i>absichtlich auf <b>Englisch</b>, damit die auch mal mitbekommen, das es mehr als eine Sprache...</i> Du meinst absichtlich auf Deutsch?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Letzten Monat war ich bei zwei online-WMF-Terminen die für die Allgemeinheit gedacht waren, beide sogar mit Simultan-Übersetzung (die ich nicht benötigt habe), aberr das mangelnde Bewusstsein vieler WMFler für Sprachprobleme ist mir durchaus aufgefallen. (Gab auch positive Gegenbeispiele) --<a href="/wiki/User:Der-Wir-Ing" title="User:Der-Wir-Ing">Der-Wir-Ing</a> ("DWI") <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 2 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z-Sänger-2021-07-02T04:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T11:30:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z"></span>Ja, ich meinte SuperPutsch , und den Entwickler Jan, der das in der deWP implementiert hat, afaik hat er das auch entwickelt. Und ja, das war ein Flüchtigkeitsfehler, ich meinte latürnich <i>absichtlich auf <b>Deutsch</b></i>. Grüße vom <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A4nger" title="User:Sänger">Sänger ♫</a><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A4nger" title="User talk:Sänger">Reden</a>)</sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Sänger-2021-07-02T11:30:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)</a> PS: Manchmal auch auf Niederländisch, just for the fun of it.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T11:30:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sänger-2021-07-02T11:30:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2021-07-02T11:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;We're still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;We're still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature&quot;}--><h2 id="We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature" data-mw-thread-id="h-We&#039;re_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"><span id="We.27re_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"></span>We're still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: We&#039;re still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-28T11:59:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;We're still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;We're still collecting feedback for the IP Info feature&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:JavaHurricane" title="User:JavaHurricane">JavaHurricane</a>, there's still time to <a href="/wiki/Talk:IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation/IP_Info_feature" title="Talk:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/IP Info feature">test the IP Info feature</a> and share your feedback. Looking forward to hearing from you. –– <a href="/wiki/User:STei_(WMF)" title="User:STei (WMF)">STei (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:STei_(WMF)" title="User talk:STei (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z-We're_still_collecting_feedback_for_the_IP_Info_feature"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Why have I gotten a ping on this page rather than my talk page, <a href="/wiki/User:STei_(WMF)" title="User:STei (WMF)">STei (WMF)</a>? <i><a href="/wiki/User:JavaHurricane" title="User:JavaHurricane"> <span style="color:green">Java</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JavaHurricane" title="User talk:JavaHurricane"><span style="color:red">Hurricane</span></a></i> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-24T18:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z"></span>Probably a copy and paste error. <a href="/wiki/User:Der-Wir-Ing" title="User:Der-Wir-Ing">Der-Wir-Ing</a> ("DWI") <a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z-JavaHurricane-2022-04-27T11:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-28T11:59:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z"></span>Thanks @<a href="/wiki/User:Der-Wir-Ing" title="User:Der-Wir-Ing">Der-Wir-Ing</a>, it is indeed an error. If you are still interested, you can share your feedback. @<a href="/wiki/User:JavaHurricane" title="User:JavaHurricane">JavaHurricane</a>, apologies for the confusing moment you might have had. However the message still applies if you are up for it. –– <a href="/wiki/User:STei_(WMF)" title="User:STei (WMF)">STei (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:STei_(WMF)" title="User talk:STei (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-28T11:59:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 28 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-STei_(WMF)-2022-04-28T11:59:00.000Z-Der-Wir-Ing-2022-04-27T11:48:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" 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Check your email—you've got mail!</b><br/><span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> You can <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing&amp;action=edit">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the {{<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Template:You%27ve_got_mail" title="Special:MyLanguage/Template:You've got mail">You've got mail</a>}} or {{<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Template:YGM" title="Special:MyLanguage/Template:YGM">YGM</a>}} template.</span></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Xeno_(WMF)" title="User:Xeno (WMF)">Xeno (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xeno_(WMF)" title="User talk:Xeno (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Xeno_(WMF)-20230505141700-You've_got_mail!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 5 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xeno_(WMF)-20230505141700-You've_got_mail!"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xeno_(WMF)-20230505141700-You've_got_mail!"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Risker-20240321043400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond\&quot;-20240321043400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Risker-20240321043400-\&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Committees are slow to respond\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Committees are slow to respond\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;-20240321043400"><span id=".22Committees_are_slow_to_respond.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;-20240321043400"></span>"Committees are slow to respond"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;-20240321043400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: &quot;Committees are slow to respond&quot;"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Risker-20240321043400-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;">8 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Risker-20240321043400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond\&quot;-20240321043400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Risker-20240321043400-\&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond\&quot;&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Committees are slow to respond\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Committees are slow to respond\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Risker-20240321043400-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;"></span>Thank you for the unexpected smile. After 2.5 years on the Movement Charter Drafting Committee, I can really relate to this. </p><p>Best wishes and thanks to you and your colleagues in the busy election season ahead. You may be relieved to know that the MCDC is going to retain responsibility for the ratification vote for the draft Movement Charter, which is scheduled to take place in June. <a href="/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Risker" title="User talk:Risker">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Risker-20240321043400-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Risker-20240321043400-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Risker-20240321043400-&quot;Committees_are_slow_to_respond&quot;"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sleyece-20240406002400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Tiffany_Henyard-20240406002400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Tiffany Henyard&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Tiffany Henyard&quot;}--><h2 id="Tiffany_Henyard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tiffany_Henyard-20240406002400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tiffany_Henyard-20240406002400"></span>Tiffany Henyard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tiffany_Henyard-20240406002400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Tiffany Henyard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sleyece-20240406033800-Risker-20240406031800">8 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Sleyece-20240406002400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Tiffany_Henyard-20240406002400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Tiffany Henyard&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Tiffany Henyard&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard"></span>I ended up having to send ticket 76757 to the legal department about the current behavior going on in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffany_Henyard" class="extiw" title="en:Tiffany Henyard">Tiffany Henyard</a> article. Can the election committee do something because it requires immediate review by U4C which doesn't exist yet. I also misspelled "Henyard" twice in the email to legal which I apologize for. I'm being accused of bad faith edits on the article as I'm in the middle of an election to deal with systemic problems, so I'm a little flustered. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sleyece" title="User:Sleyece">Sleyece</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sleyece" title="User talk:Sleyece">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sleyece-20240406002400-Tiffany_Henyard"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Sleyece" title="User:Sleyece"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Risker-20240406024200-Sleyece-20240406002400"></span>Sleyece</a>, why are you appealing to a member of the Elections Committee (a global body that has zero authority to affect content on any project that is unrelated to an election it is managing) to address a content issue on English Wikipedia? Is there a reason why you are not using the dispute resolution systems on English Wikipedia? For example, have you added your voice to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Tiffany_Henyard" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard">BLPN thread</a> about this article? Bluntly put, you *aren't* a member of the U4C, and it would require the entire UCCC to discuss the issues you claim to have raised with WMF Legal about that article. Being a candidate for the role doesn't give you any special authority over very specific article content, especially a presumption that an article is racially biased. It's pretty obvious that the problem with the article is that a person who would not normally be considered notable (being the mayor of a small US village does not grant notability), but suddenly has dozens of high quality reference sources writing about allegations about her. This happens all the time when something titillates the maintstream media. As a candidate, you might want to articulate how you believe the U4C should address these issues, but knocking on the door of the Elections Committee is probably not going to rank very high on that list. I'm not even sure initiating a ticket with WMF Legal would be anywhere near the top of that list. <a href="/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Risker" title="User talk:Risker">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Risker-20240406024200-Sleyece-20240406002400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Risker-20240406024200-Sleyece-20240406002400"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Risker-20240406024200-Sleyece-20240406002400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sleyece-20240406025500-Risker-20240406024200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> I'll kindly ask you to let @<a href="/wiki/User:Der-Wir-Ing" title="User:Der-Wir-Ing">Der-Wir-Ing</a> deal with the elections committee response on their own talk page. I asked for the elections committee to be aware of the ongoing because the charter says the elections committee must meet on every major issue that arises in the first election. For the record I initiated a the legal ticket because it was necessary and legal should be allowed to respond whenever they're ready to email me. Wikipedia committees that are coequal have already taken good faith actions to mend by editing <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_hotheads#You_cannot_argue_Wikipedia_into_capitulation">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_hotheads#You_cannot_argue_Wikipedia_into_capitulation</a> Don't tell me or other co-equal actors what to do again. If you don't consider me an equal, then just know that I filed the Legal ticket in good faith. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Sleyece" title="User:Sleyece">Sleyece</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sleyece" title="User talk:Sleyece">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Sleyece-20240406025500-Risker-20240406024200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sleyece-20240406025500-Risker-20240406024200"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sleyece-20240406025500-Risker-20240406024200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Risker-20240406031800-Sleyece-20240406025500"></span>Sleyece, simply put, if you want the attention of the Election Committee, the best place to post is on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee" title="Talk:Wikimedia Foundation elections committee">Talk:Wikimedia Foundation elections committee</a>, not on the page of an individual Election Committee member. I am not sure why you believe that your concerns about one specific article on English Wikipedia is something that needs to be brought to their attention, but I accept that you believe this is the case. In the meantime, perhaps you might want to send the article to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AFD" class="extiw" title="en:WP:AFD">AFD</a>. It only takes a minute or two, so it shouldn't have too negative an impact on your candidacy. I think you'd have a good argument that the mayor of a tiny village in the middle of Illinois isn't notable enough for an article, let alone the one that's there, that the article is largely built on BLP1E and thus should be deleted. It will certainly bring more eyes to the situation. <a href="/wiki/User:Risker" title="User:Risker">Risker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Risker" title="User talk:Risker">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Der-Wir-Ing#c-Risker-20240406031800-Sleyece-20240406025500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Risker-20240406031800-Sleyece-20240406025500"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon 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