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class="vector-toc-numb">2.2.1</span> <span>Statement by GhostOfDanGurney</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Statement_by_(username)_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Statement_by_(username)_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.2.2</span> <span>Statement by (username)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_(username)_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2.3</span> <span>Result concerning GhostOfDanGurney</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Ecrusized</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Ecrusized subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Statement_by_Ecrusized" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Statement_by_Ecrusized"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.1</span> <span>Statement by Ecrusized</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_Ecrusized-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.2</span> <span>Statement by ScottishFinnishRadish</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.3</span> <span>Statement by Red-tailed hawk</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Statement_by_(involved_editor_2)" 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href="#Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.5.1</span> <span>Statement by (uninvolved editor 1)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.5.2</span> <span>Statement by (uninvolved editor 2)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3.6</span> <span>Result of the appeal by Ecrusized</span> </div> </a> <ul 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To appeal a contentious topic restriction or other enforcement decision, please create a new section and use the template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Arbitration_enforcement_appeal" title="Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal">Arbitration enforcement appeal</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256386598">.mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#F0F2F5;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#CCFFCC;color:inherit}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-mainspace{background:#14181F;color:inherit}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cot-header-other{background:#003500;color:inherit}}</style> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Appeals and administrator modifications of contentious topics restrictions</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee">Arbitration Committee</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">procedures</a> relating to modifications of contentious topic restrictions state the following: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>All contentious topic restrictions (and <a href="#Warnings">logged warnings</a>) may be appealed. Only the restricted editor may appeal an editor restriction. Any editor may appeal a page restriction. </p><p>The appeal process has three possible stages. An editor appealing a restriction may: </p> <ol><li>ask the administrator who first made the contentious topic restrictions (the "enforcing administrator") to reconsider their original decision;</li> <li>request review at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">arbitration enforcement noticeboard</a> ("AE") or at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">administrators' noticeboard</a> ("AN"); and</li> <li>submit a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARCA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARCA">request for amendment</a> ("ARCA"). If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by <a href="/wiki/User:Arbitration_Committee" title="User:Arbitration Committee">email</a>.</li></ol> <p>Appeals submitted at AE or AN must be submitted using the <a href="/wiki/Template:Arbitration_enforcement_appeal" title="Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal">applicable template</a>. </p><p>A rough consensus of administrators at AE or editors at AN may specify a period of up to one year during which no appeals (other than an appeal to ARCA) may be submitted. </p> <dl><dt>Changing or revoking a contentious topic restriction</dt></dl> <p>An administrator may only modify or revoke a contentious topic restriction if a formal appeal is successful or if one of the following exceptions applies: </p> <ul><li>The administrator who originally imposed the contentious topic restriction (the "enforcing administrator") affirmatively consents to the change,<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>a<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> or is no longer an administrator;<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>b<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> or</li> <li>The contentious topic restriction was imposed (or last renewed) more than a year ago and: <ul><li>the restriction was imposed by a single administrator, or</li> <li>the restriction was an indefinite block.</li></ul></li></ul> <p>A formal appeal is successful only if one of the following agrees with revoking or changing the contentious topic restriction: </p> <ul><li>a <b>clear</b> consensus of uninvolved administrators at AE,</li> <li>a <b>clear</b> consensus of uninvolved editors at AN,</li> <li>a majority of the Arbitration Committee, acting through a motion at ARCA.</li></ul> <p>Any administrator who revokes or changes a contentious topic restriction out of process (i.e. without the above conditions being met) may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped. </p> <dl><dt>Standard of review</dt> <dt>On community review</dt></dl> <p>Uninvolved administrators at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">arbitration enforcement noticeboard</a> ("AE") and uninvolved editors at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">administrators' noticeboard</a> ("AN") should revoke or modify a contentious topic restriction on appeal if: </p> <ol><li>the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),</li> <li>the action was not reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption when first imposed, or</li> <li>the action is no longer reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption.</li></ol> <dl><dt>On Arbitration Committee review</dt></dl> <p>Arbitrators hearing an appeal at a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARCA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARCA">request for amendment</a> ("ARCA") will generally overturn a contentious topic restriction only if: </p> <ol><li>the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),</li> <li>the action represents an unreasonable exercise of administrative enforcement discretion, or</li> <li>compelling circumstances warrant the full Committee's action.</li></ol> </div> </div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns 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as there would be no single enforcing administrator.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Appeals and administrator modifications of non-contentious topics sanctions</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee">Arbitration Committee</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures">procedures</a> relating to modifications and appeals state: </p> <dl><dt>Appeals by sanctioned editors</dt></dl> <p>Appeals may be made only by the editor under sanction and only for a currently active sanction. Requests for modification of page restrictions may be made by any editor. The process has three possible stages (see "Important notes" below). The editor may: </p> <ol><li>ask the enforcing administrator to reconsider their original decision;</li> <li>request review at the <a class="mw-selflink selflink">arbitration enforcement noticeboard</a> ("AE") or at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard">administrators’ noticeboard</a> ("AN"); and</li> <li>submit a request for amendment at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment">amendment requests page</a> ("ARCA"). If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by email through <a href="/wiki/User:Arbitration_Committee" title="User:Arbitration Committee">Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee</a> (or, if email access is revoked, to <span class="nowrap">arbcom-en<span class="mw-no-invert"><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="@"><img alt="@" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/23px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/30px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"/></span></span></span>wikimedia.org</span>).</li></ol> <dl><dt>Modifications by administrators</dt></dl> <p>No administrator may modify or remove a sanction placed by another administrator without: </p> <ol><li>the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or</li> <li>prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" below).</li></ol> <p>Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped. </p><p>Nothing in this section prevents an administrator from replacing an existing sanction issued by another administrator with a new sanction if fresh misconduct has taken place after the existing sanction was applied. </p><p>Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators – that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) – without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction placed by a former administrator, the administrator who made the modification becomes the "enforcing administrator". If a former administrator regains the tools, the provisions of this section again apply to their unmodified enforcement actions. </p><p><b>Important notes</b>: </p> <ol><li>For a request to succeed, either</li></ol> <dl><dd><dl><dd>(i) the clear and substantial consensus of (a) uninvolved administrators at AE or (b) uninvolved editors at AN or</dd> <dd>(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA</dd> <dd>is required. If consensus at AE or AN is unclear, the status quo prevails.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ol><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li><li value="2"> While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still request an easing or removal of the sanction on the grounds that said sanction is no longer needed, but such requests may only be made once every six months, or whatever longer period the committee may specify.</li> <li>These provisions apply only to contentious topic restrictions placed by administrators and to blocks placed by administrators to enforce arbitration case decisions. They do not apply to sanctions directly authorized by the committee, and enacted either by arbitrators or by arbitration clerks, or to special functionary blocks of whatever nature.</li> <li>All actions designated as arbitration enforcement actions, including those alleged to be out of process or against existing policy, must first be appealed following arbitration enforcement procedures to establish if such enforcement is inappropriate before the action may be reversed or formally discussed at another venue.</li></ol> </div> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em">Information for administrators processing requests</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <p>Thank you for participating in this area. AE works best if there are a variety of admins bringing their expertise to each case. There is no expectation to comment on every case, and the Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) thanks all admins for whatever time they can give. </p><p>A couple of reminders: </p> <ul><li>Before commenting, please familiarise yourself with the referenced ArbCom case. Please also read all the evidence (including diffs) presented in the AE request.</li> <li>When a request widens to include editors beyond the initial request, these editors must be notified and the notifications recorded in the same way as for the initial editor against whom sanctions were requested. Where some part of the outcome is clear, a partial close may be implemented and noted as "Result concerning X".</li> <li>Enforcement measures in arbitration cases should be construed liberally to protect Wikipedia and keep it running efficiently. Some of the behaviour described in an enforcement request might not be restricted by ArbCom. 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Request concerning Southasianhistorian8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>User who is submitting this request for enforcement</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:DeletedContributions/GhostOfDanGurney">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Log/GhostOfDanGurney">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=GhostOfDanGurney">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Block/GhostOfDanGurney">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AGhostOfDanGurney">block log</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-1"></span>User against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Contributions/Southasianhistorian8">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Southasianhistorian8">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Log/Southasianhistorian8">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Southasianhistorian8">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Block/Southasianhistorian8">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ASouthasianhistorian8">block log</a>)</span><p><span class="plainlinks">Search CT alerts<a href="/wiki/Template:Contentious_topics/log" title="Template:Contentious topics/log">:</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&action=history&tagfilter=contentious+topics+alert">in user talk history</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=602&wpSearchTitle=User+talk%3ASouthasianhistorian8">in system log</a></span></p></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Sanction or remedy to be enforced</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBIPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBIPA">Wikipedia:ARBIPA</a></dd></dl> <dl><dt><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DIFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DIFF">Diffs</a> of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation <i>how</i> these edits violate it</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khalistan_movement&diff=prev&oldid=1257032461">21:37, November 12</a> Ignores <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ONUS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ONUS">WP:ONUS</a>, edit warring in order to restore POV-pushing/<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">WP:COATRACK</a> content after that content had been removed by <a href="/wiki/User:Nyttend" title="User:Nyttend">Nyttend</a>.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1257269567">02:11, November 14</a> Repeats the same <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">WP:COATRACK</a> behaviour at another article, just over 24hrs after Nyttend (a longstanding administrator) warned them about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">WP:COATRACK</a> on their talk page.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1257318371">08:49 November 14</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PA">Personal attack</a> towards me on their userpage in response to sharing my concern about diff2 and agreeing with Nyttend, claims I'm <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">"piling on my t/p over a <b>topic that does not concern you</b> as a form of <b>petty bullying/harassment and revenge</b>."</q> (bolding mine; Nyttend was the only other user with a message on their talk page)</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1257326122">10:05 November 14</a> Leaves a retaliatory message on my talk page, spurned by my reverting of their edit in diff2.</li></ol> <dl><dt>Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1090688302">20:47, 2022 May 30</a> Indeff'd for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOCKPUPPETRY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOCKPUPPETRY">abusing multiple accounts</a> in the area of conflict as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Suthasianhistorian8/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Suthasianhistorian8/Archive">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Suthasianhistorian8/Archive</a>. Unblocked in December 2022 following a standard offer.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1054725243">19:06, 2021 November 11</a> 48hrs for edit warring in the area of conflict.</li></ol> <dl><dt>If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">contentious topics restrictions</a> are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP#Awareness_of_contentious_topics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics</a>)</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ul><li>Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1057433472">16:31, 2021 November 27</a> (see the system log linked to above).</li></ul> <dl><dt>Additional comments by editor filing complaint</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <p>SAH continues to push their anti-Sikh POV into articles. Diff1 shows them adding repetitive content which was already covered in the article, not to mention that it has <a href="/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row" title="Canada–India diplomatic row">its own article</a>. Repeating in such detail can only be interpreted as an attempt to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SYNTH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SYNTH">draw a equivalency</a> between <a href="/wiki/Khalistan_movement" title="Khalistan movement">Khalistan movement</a> and the Canada-India row that is not supported by sources. </p><p>Diff2 shows them doing them same at <a href="/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar" title="Hardeep Singh Nijjar">Hardeep Singh Nijjar</a>, using that article as a COATRACK to add content about a tangentially relevant person, content which belong in an article about that person, and attempting to further their POV that Nijjar was a "militant". </p><p>Diffs 3 and 4 showcase an unwillingness to self-reflect when conduct concerns are brought up, getting defensive with personal attacks, retaliatory warnings, and digging up of past dirt (which they already mentioned in the last AE thread about them). At no point do they acknowledge <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">WP:COATRACK</a> either in response to Nyttend or myself. </p><p>Contribution history shows they nearly-exclusively edit about Sikh topics, suppressing positive information and restoring negative information. Talk page history shows numerous NPOV warnings. At this point, we either have a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDHT">LISTENing</a> issue or a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTHERE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTHERE">WP:NOTHERE</a> issue. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000-Request_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:103.251.217.66&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:103.251.217.66 (page does not exist)">103.251.217.66</a>:</span> I disagree with your evaluation of this as only a content dispute. I am reporting conduct; specifically violations of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EW">WP:EW</a> (after the user made an agreement to <b>never edit war</b><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8/Archive_1#Appeal_2">[1]</a> as part of their SOCK unblock request), <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">WP:NPA</a>. I am aware that AE does not and should never rule on content. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"></span>Has SAH gotten a waiver of the word limit that I'm not aware of? They are at 1552 by my count. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600-GhostOfDanGurney-20241114170000"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a>:</span> While BLPCRIME is <i><b>a</b></i> reason why I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=next&oldid=1257269827">reverted</a> diff 2, it was not the <i>only</i> reason, with the other reason being that I felt SAH was pushing a POV using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COATRACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COATRACK">WP:COATRACK</a> edits, something they had been warned about 24 hours previously for the edit in diff 1. My issue with the edit to Hardeep Singh Nijjar re: Arsh Dalla is beyond the BLPCRIME issue. It goes into the aspect of using another person's arrest to further a POV that Nijjar was a militant extremist.</dd> <dd>The fact that SAH filed a report about Simonm223 to AN today<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1257729734">[2]</a> for simply <i>trying to engage with SAH at SAH's talk page</i><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1257415994">[3]</a>, then <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BADGER" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BADGER">WP:BADGERed</a> voorts at voort's talk page after voorts closed the thread<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Voorts&diff=prev&oldid=1257794737">[4]</a> shows that SAH's conduct is the primary issue, not the content of any article. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115022600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>:</span> it is at DRN <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Zeroth_statement_by_possible_moderator_(Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar)">[5]</a> on referral by <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">Voorts</a> after SAH made a thread reporting <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> at ANI <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1172#Persistent_IDHT_and_disruptive_fabrication_of_Wikipedia_policy">[6]</a>, was warned for forum shopping, then badgered voorts at their talk page<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Voorts&oldid=1257797878#Question_about_ANI_closure">[7]</a> The DRN has new posts tonight that I still need to catch up on. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100-GhostOfDanGurney-20241116233000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025800-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100"></span>...Okay, seriously, this is getting out of hand now. SAH's response to being asked to <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">state concisely what they want to change that another editor wants to leave the same</q> at DRN is to post a wall of text outlining their entire rationale to insert what they call "a brief few sentences or paragraphs" (huh?). Is this not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLUDGEONING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLUDGEONING">WP:BLUDGEONING</a> of a discussion?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&oldid=1258697329#Zeroth_statements_by_editors_(Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar)">[8]</a> ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025800-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025800-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025800-GhostOfDanGurney-20241121025100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dt>Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1257382749">[9]</a> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"></span>Discussion concerning Southasianhistorian8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Discussion concerning Southasianhistorian8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><i>Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.<br/>Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Statement by Southasianhistorian8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Statement by Southasianhistorian8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"></span>Statement by Southasianhistorian8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Statement by Southasianhistorian8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121091100-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span>(Note, below is SAH's original statement, the one people have commented on. The altered statement, where he removed/changed the things others had criticised, so that their criticism no longer made sense, can be found <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1258714448" title="Special:Diff/1258714448">here</a>. See my comment down in the admin section (in a moment from now) for why I've put their original statement back. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121091100-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121091100-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121091100-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span>Talk about desperation. Any outsider can take a look at my handling on <a href="/wiki/Khalistan_movement" title="Khalistan movement">Khalistan movement</a> and see that I handled myself very responsibly as opposed to GhostofDanGurney who keeps lobbing personal attacks at editors he dislikes. I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khalistan_movement&action=history">only made one revert</a>, and when Nyttend posted on my t/p, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8">I told him I would not revert further,</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khalistan_movement#Canada-India_diplomatic_row">and initiated a discussion on the t/p</a>. The content I added was literally a direct result of the killing of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Khalistan activist, and the RCMP's allegations of India's operations against Khalistan activists, so clearly the event is relevant to the page at least to some degree and I'm extremely confident that editors at 3O or DRN will agree. The content there wasn't even authored by me, I copied it (with attribution) from the <a href="/wiki/Canada-India_diplomatic_row" class="mw-redirect" title="Canada-India diplomatic row">Canada-India diplomatic row</a>. If I was so biased, wouldn't I be trying to suppress this information? I figured that precluding such a consequential event would be irresponsible and make it appear as though the page was skewed towards a pro-India narrative. What more do you want from me? </p><p>Now, in line with GhostofDanGurney hastily making edits to get one over me such as here-<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row&diff=prev&oldid=1253449989">where he engaged in interpretation of a primary source to publicy discredit a figure, as confirmed by ScottishFinnishRadish on A/E</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1253487149">here where he falsely accused me of plagiarizing his work</a><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1257312443">Now he falsely called Arsh Dalla a "low profile" individual thus wrongly invoking BLPCRIME; Ghost could have spent at least 10 minutes researching this guy or at least initiated a respectful discussion on the t/p instead of piling attacks on my t/p</a>. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1257317133">Instead he made a rude condescending post on my t/p, threatening to escalate matters and stating that I need to confirm whether I understand Wikipedia's policies to him, as if he's my boss or something</a>. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar#Arsh_Dalla">He has yet to engage in the t/p of the article where I laid out sources and arguments</a>, instead coming here to again win a content dispute illegitimately. </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Southasianhistorian8">Now just days after his failed A/E request where he was also criticized for making personal attacks and making nonconstructive edits, he's again wasting everyone's tie over this drama</a>. This ridiculous BATTLEGROUND behaviour should not be given carte-blanche here.<a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241114192700-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span>@GhostofDanGurney- Is one revert on the Khalistan movement page, in which I believed the removal from Nyttend to be a simple misunderstanding and subsequently went on the t/p, and zero reverts on the Hardeep Singh Nijjar page - for a grand total of<b> one revert</b> considered "edit warring". If so, you've edit warred hundreds of times as well Ghost. You've also told people to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=846616405">"fuck themselves"</a>, called them <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=839161588">"thots"</a> and "hypocrites" and more; I've never come close to saying something like that. Again, I strongly urge admins to issue a block for these juvenile insults. Literally every disagreement on his t/p is met with a nasty response-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1181175680">[10]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1176557150">[11]</a>. This ill-researched statement is like the last time <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1253487149">when you falsely accused me of plagiarizing your work.</a> </p><p>Regarding, allegations of BLPCRIME or Dalla's low-profile/non public figure status-I've laid out a comprehensive case here-<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar#Response_to_claims_of_Dalla's_low_profile_+_non_public_figure">which shows extensive media coverage surrounding Dalla + sources in which Dalla clearly gave interviews to the media thus making him a high profile person as per Wiki policy</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241118034800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Black_Kite" title="User:Black Kite">Black Kite</a>, I saw a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar#change_in_lede_of_the_article">thread on the article's t/p</a> in which two editors expressed a desire to move the paragraph about the diplomatic row in the lead of the article. I removed the paragraph from the lead, and intended to move it <i>and expand on it</i> in the body of the article, but was unexpectedly called away before I could. By the time I returned, you had reverted me. In hindsight, I should have made my 2nd intended edit immediately afterwards and linked the t/p discussion, so my apologies for that. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241118034800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241118034800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241118034800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span>(End of original statement) </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>:</span>, those year old edit summaries are part of a <i>continuing pattern</i> of Ghost's hostility to anyone who disagrees with him, even as recent. The underlying behaviour hasn't changed at all, he was making inflammatory edit summaries, which SFR acknowledged in the first A/E not too long ago-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_relations&diff=prev&oldid=1253300634">[12]</a> + <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_relations&action=history">[13]</a>, then right after that he <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row&diff=prev&oldid=1253449989">took a quote from a primary source and framed it in a very inflammatory way (also acknowledged by SFR) to clearly cause irritation</a>. His t/p reveals numerous attacks against people who disagree with him as recent as 2023-<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1181175680">ironically it was him who did not have consensus</a> and <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1176557150">[14]</a>. He also admitted to messaging Kautilya3 on Twitter after a heated content dispute, which is pretty absurd.</dd> <dd>As for this edit-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1258026783">[15]</a>, I explicitly stated that it shouldn't have been in the <i>lead</i>-<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Please gain WP:CONSENSUS to add this to the article's <b>lead</b></q>, in accordance with the t/p discussion. I already apologized for the poor communication on my part here (I should have stated my intention to move and expand the para and linked the t/p discussion) and admit that I should take care to not add WIP edits, but I feel like AGF should apply here, especially when I already apologized and it involves my private life. I'm willing to own up to when I make a mistake.<a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000-Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8_2"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000"></span>In all, I think that a good solution to this conflict(s) would be a 2 way IBAN between Ghost and myself, <i>after</i> the DRN or any other consensus building forum has concluded. Our editing seems to primarily intersect at two pages-<a href="/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar" title="Hardeep Singh Nijjar">Hardeep Singh Nijjar</a> and <a href="/wiki/Canada-India_diplomatic_row" class="mw-redirect" title="Canada-India diplomatic row">Canada-India diplomatic row</a> out of the many hundreds of pages we've edited, the C-I row is not a page I'm particularly interested in anymore. There may be more developments on those two pages surrounding the ongoing criminal investigation, but that's not something I'm too interested in and will likely not make edits towards. I'm committed to resolving the Nijjar content dispute peacefully through consensus, and I hope Ghost will too, and I'll also commit to avoiding GoDG as much as possible from hereon. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121042000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz">Liz</a>, I agree, but a lot of my earlier thoughts/responses were unorganized as this a pretty complicated, high stress dispute. Would me linking my earlier responses be a good solution? <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121050900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400"></span>Note: This was my previous statement(s) up until 21 November 4:38 , I substantially altered it for length and because a lot of the responses were spur of the moment/unorganized-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=1258709728#Statement_by_Southasianhistorian8">[16]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200-Southasianhistorian8-20241121070400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200"></span>Would also like to point that Bishonen is not an uninvolved administrator and is posting in the wrong section. We've had disagreements in the past regarding a blocked user's sock/meat status-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Festivalfalcon873#Unblock_conditions_offered">[17]</a>. That was a case in which I and another administrator believed the blocked account to be a sock, while Bishonen believed them to be a m/p.<a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121071200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000"></span>We've had <b>2</b> disagreements in the past over users alleged to be <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit/Archive#10_May_2024">HaughtonBrit socks</a> barely a few months ago. In the other case, a user who was initially deemed to be "unrelated" to HaughtonBrit, was later deemed a "possible indicator of sockpuppetry" after my report highlighted significant developments in their editing patterns. I believed the user to be a sock, Bishonen stated that she believed that they weren't. Given the contested nature of the latter disagreement, I dont think Bishonen counts as uninvolved administrator. This is what WP:UNINVOLVED states:<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Involvement is construed broadly by the community to include current or <b>past</b> conflicts with an editor (or editors), and disputes on topics, <b>regardless of the nature, age, or outcome of the dispute</b>.</q></dd> <dd>The sockmaster in question was also someone whose sock reports sometimes faced significant opposition from admins, and it turned I was correct multiple times-<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/HaughtonBrit&diff=prev&oldid=1136095962">in this case for example, an admin was looking to close my report</a>, and it turned out that the user reported was making numerous edits logged out in violation of their block, which they themselves admitted to on their t/p-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MehmoodS&diff=prev&oldid=1136523307">[18]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900-Southasianhistorian8-20241121101000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, could you provide your view on this? <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500-Southasianhistorian8-20241121114900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>:</span>, I feel like a topic ban is unnecessary. It shouldn't be ignored that this A/E request is primarily based of a content dispute which is currently underway at DRN-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Zeroth_statements_by_editors_(Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar)">[19]</a>. It should also be highlighted that I provided detailed and policy backed reasons for my proposed changes there, whereas G and Simonm gave curt one sentence responses. Is that not telling? I sincerely request that I be allowed to participate in the consensus building. It should also be noted that I did not edit war anywhere, and am making sincere efforts to gain consensus for my changes.</dd> <dd>I also do a lot of work in cleaning up articles in this topic area, which is inundated with POV pushing, poor sourcing and lackluster content. Could you please consider allowing the DRN to conclude and a later IBAN between me and Ghost? I strongly believe that would cease any further conflicts. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300-Southasianhistorian8-20241121121500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300"></span>I also feel like my inexperience and mistakes at A/E shouldn't dictate the fate of my editing in the Wikipedia mainspace, which are vastly different from each other. The vast majority of my editing in the main space and on talk pages is productive, and I've worked to arrive consensuses consistently over the past 2 years. The dispute between Ghost and myself became so acrimonious and litigious, that it's impossible to handle both discussing on the article t/p, DRN, and handling numerous dogpiles on A/E. Again @<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, please consider an alternative. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000-Southasianhistorian8-20241121124300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, could you please let me know if something else other than a topic ban is on the table? Again, I find it punitive when I'm contributing substantially to the DRN and trying to seek a consensus there. Can we at least not see the assessment of other editors in that content dispute and what they make of Ghost and Simon's BLP/coatrack claims? <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700-Southasianhistorian8-20241121130000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700"></span>Scratch that. Honestly, after seeing the immense toxicity on this site, where numerous editors dog-pile on you, lob false accusations against you, gaslight you and arm-twist you into believing their falsehoods, and just in general playing favourites with those in their own clique, all to get one over someone else in a content dispute, I've realized that Wikipedia is no longer a suitable place for me.</dd> <dd>I would request an indef site ban for myself, and I do not intend to make any more edits here. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121133700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121163400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> An indef site block would be good, and allow me to start a new chapter in life. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121163400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121163400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121163400-Southasianhistorian8-20241121143400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(103.251.217.66_(talk))" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(103.251.217.66_(talk))-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span id="Statement_by_.28103.251.217.66_.28talk.29.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(103.251.217.66_(talk))-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Statement by (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.251.217.66" title="Special:Contributions/103.251.217.66">103.251.217.66</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:103.251.217.66&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:103.251.217.66 (page does not exist)">talk</a>))<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(103.251.217.66_(talk))-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Statement by (103.251.217.66 (talk))"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li>I think both needs to calm down. both should talk on the article talk page before making changes to the article and stop reverting changes.</li> <li>I see this is only as content dispute... I don't think Southasianhistorian8 is attacking you op.. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1255952101">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1255952101</a> you should assume good faith.. and you are also trying gatekeep article it seems to me... <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row#NPOV">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row#NPOV</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Simonm223" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Simonm223-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114194600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Simonm223-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114194600"></span>Statement by Simonm223<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Simonm223-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114194600"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Statement by Simonm223"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simonm223-20241114194600-Statement_by_Simonm223"></span>I would concur that both editors should probably both get some space from each other for a few days. A short-duration 2-way iBan might be a reasonable remedy here.</s> Most of the edits in contention from both editors don't seem disruptive although both could be a bit more careful with sourcing to avoid primary sources and to ensure that secondary sources are included in major edits. The only point of contention I'd take with either's position (as I don't think either is actually entirely <i>wrong</i> so much as operating at cross-purposes) surrounds the interpretation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>. Arsh Dalla is not a public figure per the definition laid out by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PUBLICFIGURE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PUBLICFIGURE">WP:PUBLICFIGURE</a> because his notoriety is <i>entirely</i> from the circumstances of him having been accused of a crime. As such the guidance, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime</q> very much applies here. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Simonm223-20241114194600-Statement_by_Simonm223" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simonm223-20241114194600-Statement_by_Simonm223"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simonm223-20241114194600-Statement_by_Simonm223"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simonm223-20241114200800-Simonm223-20241114194600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> there is a key difference between Bishnoi and Dalla. Bishnoi stood trial and was convicted. My understanding is that Canada has declined to arrest and extradite Dalla. As such, since he is a free person and considered innocent both under Canadian law and by Wikipedia's standards, and since all the media coverage around him is about whether he did any criminal acts, we should not be commenting on him on Wikipedia. I hope this clarifies <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a> for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Simonm223-20241114200800-Simonm223-20241114194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simonm223-20241114200800-Simonm223-20241114194600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simonm223-20241114200800-Simonm223-20241114194600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simonm223-20241114231800-Simonm223-20241114200800"></span>Honestly my attempt to provide some friendly help regarding the BLPCRIME issue has left me a bit more concerned about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDHT">WP:IDHT</a> than I was at the outset. Especially since <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OSE">WP:OSE</a> statements do not override BLP policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Simonm223-20241114231800-Simonm223-20241114200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simonm223-20241114231800-Simonm223-20241114200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simonm223-20241114231800-Simonm223-20241114200800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Simonm223-20241121133000-Simonm223-20241114231800"></span>Hopefully my last comment here I just want to apologize to @<a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a> for originally interpreting this as a two-way interaction problem. I saw this and tried to sincerely help Southasianhistorian8 and the result was an ANI complaint, a DRN page and several <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TLDR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TLDR">repetitive textwalls</a>. This is much more of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a> situation than I initially assumed with Southasianhistorian8 specifically and, what's worse, they appear to assume any attempt <i>to assist them</i> is an attack. I have struck my initial comments about a 2-way i-ban as I no longer believe that would be an effective remedy. <a href="/wiki/User:Simonm223" title="User:Simonm223">Simonm223</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Simonm223" title="User talk:Simonm223">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Simonm223-20241121133000-Simonm223-20241114231800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Simonm223-20241121133000-Simonm223-20241114231800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Simonm223-20241121133000-Simonm223-20241114231800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Swatjester" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Swatjester-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114212400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Swatjester-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114212400"></span>Statement by Swatjester<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Swatjester-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241114212400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Statement by Swatjester"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swatjester-20241114212400-Statement_by_Swatjester"></span>Regardless of which side is correct on the merits of the arguments, it does *not* help SAH's case that they've presented their opposition to Ghost of Dan Gurney in an uncivil and excessively inflammatory manner. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish&diff=prev&oldid=1257410714">"he clearly has an extreme vendetta against and is desperate to hound me off this page"</a> fails to assume good faith. So does accusing them of having "a long history of suppressing any critical information on the page... saw this opportunity and rushed to try to hound me further." Vaguely handwaving at a previous report does not suffice to make that anything less than an aspersion. Saying "I find it reprehensible that this bullying behaviour has carte-blanche on Wikipedia" is both uncivil, inflammatory, and presumes that the behavior is 1) bullying, and 2) has "carte-blanche" despite this AE request existing and there having been discussion about it in multiple talk page forums already. Regardless of how this AE gets decided, I'd admonish SAH to find a more constructive, less inflammatory way of expressing their positions. I think all involved would do well to be reminded that in a contentious topic area you need to be on your best behavior. <a href="/wiki/User:Swatjester" title="User:Swatjester"><span style="color:red">⇒</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swatjester" title="User talk:Swatjester"><span style="font-family:Serif"><span style="color:black">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod">Jester</span></span></a> <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Swatjester-20241114212400-Statement_by_Swatjester" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swatjester-20241114212400-Statement_by_Swatjester"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swatjester-20241114212400-Statement_by_Swatjester"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Black_Kite" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Black_Kite-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241117210400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Black_Kite-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241117210400"></span>Statement by Black Kite<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Black_Kite-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241117210400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Statement by Black Kite"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20241117210400-Statement_by_Black_Kite"></span>SAH is still - whilst this AE is continuing <i>and</i> having <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">started a DRN</a> on the topic themselves - removing sourced and DUE information at <a href="/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar" title="Hardeep Singh Nijjar">Hardeep Singh Nijjar</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=1258026783&oldid=1257312443">[20]</a>. Quite bizarre behaviour, almost like they <i>want</i> to be sanctioned. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Black_Kite-20241117210400-Statement_by_Black_Kite" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20241117210400-Statement_by_Black_Kite"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20241117210400-Statement_by_Black_Kite"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20241121113500-Black_Kite-20241117210400"></span>The claim that Bishonen is not uninvolved here is so ridiculous that it's verging on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIR">WP:CIR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Black_Kite-20241121113500-Black_Kite-20241117210400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20241121113500-Black_Kite-20241117210400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20241121113500-Black_Kite-20241117210400"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Tiggerjay" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Tiggerjay-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241124215900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Tiggerjay-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241124215900"></span>Statement by Tiggerjay<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Tiggerjay-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-20241124215900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Statement by Tiggerjay"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124215900-Statement_by_Tiggerjay"></span>I've had several of the articles that SAH has been editing come up on various boards that I monitor. Unfortunately, I've been unable to positively contribute for a lack of time to read through the wall of text that SAH generates through their apparent POV-pushing style, and then sometimes Wikilawyering to support their POV. While I think that the situation is primarily one-sided, and GDG is doing a fair job of handling it well, just a reminder that the integrity of WP is not solely upon him to keep other editors in line, and perhaps not taking it too personally. I think a formal TBAN with 500 edits is a good place to start for SAH, and perhaps, if anything, an IBAN for GDG. <a href="/wiki/User:Tiggerjay" title="User:Tiggerjay"><span style="color:DarkOrange"><b>Tigger</b></span><b>Jay</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiggerjay" title="User talk:Tiggerjay"><span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Tiggerjay-20241124215900-Statement_by_Tiggerjay" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiggerjay-20241124215900-Statement_by_Tiggerjay"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiggerjay-20241124215900-Statement_by_Tiggerjay"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(username)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(username)-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span id="Statement_by_.28username.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(username)-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Statement by (username)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(username)-Discussion_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Statement by (username)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" data-mw-thread-id="h-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241115024300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241115024300"></span>Result concerning Southasianhistorian8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8-Southasianhistorian8-20241115024300"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Result concerning Southasianhistorian8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a>, you're at three times your limit and no admins have commented yet. You need to trim about a thousand words. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:43, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121005800-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"></span>I haven't had the time to look into this in-depth, but I plan to in the next couple days. In the meantime, has anyone started a thread at BLPN? <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121005800-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121005800-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121005800-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121122600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"></span>Okay, I've looked into this a bit more, but even based on their behavior at this report, the bludgeoning and walls of text, the incivility, and the retaliatory filing below I'm thinking at least a 3-6 month and 500 edit topic ban for tendentious editing with the hope that it will be enough of a sanction that their behavior will be better when they return. I'm also open to an indef topic ban if other admins believe that they should have to offer some proof of constructive editing to return to the topic area.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a>, what SAH linked to was a discussion of your administrative actions and fulfilling <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMINACCT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ADMINACCT">WP:ADMINACCT</a> does not make you involved. I don't see any issues with involvement here. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121122600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121122600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121122600-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241115024300"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivanvector-20241116153500-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>This seems like a plain dispute over interpretation of BLPCRIME with respect to an edit that was made <i>yesterday</i>, but instead of a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">WP:BLPN</a>, there are three enforcement threads visible on this page and another at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">WP:AN</a>. Perhaps the editors involved should try BLPN first, or other forms of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DR">dispute resolution</a>, instead of running here to get each other banned? <a href="/wiki/User:Ivanvector" title="User:Ivanvector">Ivanvector</a> (<sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivanvector" title="User talk:Ivanvector">Talk</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivanvector" title="Special:Contributions/Ivanvector">Edits</a></sub>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ivanvector-20241116153500-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivanvector-20241116153500-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivanvector-20241116153500-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20241121030900-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>I encouraged these editors to take their dispute to DRN. I think everyone needs to de-escalate, step away from the article, and let the process at DRN play out. If that fails and this acrimony continues, IBANs, TBANs, or page restrictions might be needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Voorts-20241121030900-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20241121030900-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20241121030900-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121040000-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>I also haven't had time to research this properly, but I've noticed without difficulty that SAH's behaviour on this very page is poor. SAH, you point out that GhostOfDanGurney told someone to go fuck themselves <i>in 2018</i>, (near the beginning of their Wikipedia career) called somebody else a thot in the same year, and you "strongly urge admins to issue a block for these juvenile insults". A block? Six years after the fact? Please don't air ancient history at AE, especially when it has nothing to do with the matter in hand. I see you offer the same diffs and others from your historical collection in the retaliatory report below, too. I'm also interested to see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241118034800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115030200">your explanation</a> of Black Kite's point that <i>during</i> this AE, you removed sourced and DUE information at <a href="/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar" title="Hardeep Singh Nijjar">Hardeep Singh Nijjar</a>, 'almost like [you] <i>want</i> to be sanctioned'. You explain that two editors on Talk wanted to "move" the information, and therefore you <b>re</b>-moved it, intending to move it to the body and even, virtuously, expand on it there, but were interrupted at this very point. This statement of yours flies in the face of a) your edit summary for the removal,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=1258026783&oldid=1257312443">[21]</a> and b) what you yourself said about it on Talk.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1258042974">[22]</a> In view of that, the drama where you are "unexpectedly called away" is unfortunately not credible. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121040000-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121040000-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121040000-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241121065700-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Just noting that I think Southasianhistorian8 has rewritten much of their statement here today. Many comments others have referred to are now absent from their statement. I know that the length of their content was a concern but I don't think a participant should basically rewrite their original statement in response to other editors' complaints. It's confusing when one tries to understand the flow of the discussion. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Liz-20241121065700-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20241121065700-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20241121065700-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121091500-Liz-20241121065700"></span>Yes, indeed they have, and that's not acceptable. Before I commented, I counted SAH's words to see if they had complied with shortening their statement. Yes, they had, it was 554 words. Then, after I had complained about poor behaviour, specifically asking admins to block G over ancient diffs, and trying to explain away Black Kite's complaint of disruption during this case, they "<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">substantially altered it for length and because a lot of the responses were spur of the moment/unorganized</q>". That's one way of putting it. Another would be that after my criticism and Simon223's, they removed the things we criticized. That's unacceptable on talkpages, and just as unacceptable here. Linking to the old version doesn't help much. You simply shouldn't have done it. I have restored the version I commented on, with a link to your new, massaged, less "spur of the moment" version. The time to think is before you post here, not after people have told you what's wrong with it. Note, if you decide to no longer offer an argument that's been criticized, you may of course disown it. But that's done by <s>crossing it out, like this</s>. <i>Not</i> by removing it. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121091500-Liz-20241121065700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121091500-Liz-20241121065700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121091500-Liz-20241121065700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121112900-Bishonen-20241121091500"></span>SAH now <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1258734826/1258741464" title="Special:Diff/1258734826/1258741464">suggests</a> I'm not an uninvolved admin. I think I am, and I hope one or more admin/user here will please follow SAH's link to evaluate this putative involvement. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121112900-Bishonen-20241121091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121112900-Bishonen-20241121091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121112900-Bishonen-20241121091500"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121132200-Bishonen-20241121112900"></span>ScottishFinnishRadish</a>, I'm not sure what the "500 edit" means in your proposed t-ban? <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121132200-Bishonen-20241121112900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121132200-Bishonen-20241121112900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121132200-Bishonen-20241121112900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121133100-Bishonen-20241121132200"></span>The need to both wait 3 or 6 months <i>and</i> make 500 edits outside of the topic area. This way they have to demonstrate constructive editing elsewhere rather than waiting out the tban. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121133100-Bishonen-20241121132200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121133100-Bishonen-20241121132200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121133100-Bishonen-20241121132200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ealdgyth-20241121140300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>I am good with SFR's suggested 3 or 6 months (I lean 6) topic ban AND making 500 substantial edits outside the topic area (by "substantial" I mean not just adding commas or moving around stuff, but engaging with content and showing that they understand how to use reliable sources and how to edit collaboratively) <a href="/wiki/User:Ealdgyth" title="User:Ealdgyth">Ealdgyth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ealdgyth" title="User talk:Ealdgyth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ealdgyth-20241121140300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ealdgyth-20241121140300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ealdgyth-20241121140300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bishonen-20241121160300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Indef now?</b> In view of <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1258766669" title="Special:Diff/1258766669">this post</a> by SAH, is it time for an indef block? Or (my preference) should we instead give them a chance to calm down? <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Bishonen-20241121160300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bishonen-20241121160300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bishonen-20241121160300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121163900-Bishonen-20241121160300"></span>I would give them a chance to calm down. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121163900-Bishonen-20241121160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121163900-Bishonen-20241121160300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121163900-Bishonen-20241121160300"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241122043300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>Southasianhistorian8</a>, you don't need to quit editing or be indefinitely blocked. You just have to continue to be a productive editor without getting yourself into disputes. I don't see any favoritism here in this discussion. But when I look over your most recent 200 edits in your contribution history, almost all have to do with arguments with other editors. Can you coexist with editors you don't agree with? That's what the rest of us do. And, believe me, there are longtime editors here who have had disagreements with each other that are deeper and longer-lasting than your dispute with GhostOfDanGurney...we just keep a distance between us and do not provoke each other. Remember, this is not just an editing project but a collaborative one so you have to be able to collaborate even when not agreeing. Can you do that? <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Liz-20241122043300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20241122043300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20241122043300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span>I'm seeing a rough consensus for a 6 month and 500 edit topic ban. Any objections? <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300-Result_concerning_Southasianhistorian8"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seraphimblade-20241127043200-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300"></span>Just for clarity, is that indicating that the ban expires after 6 months or 500 edits, whichever comes later? <a href="/wiki/User:Seraphimblade" title="User:Seraphimblade">Seraphimblade</a> <small><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Seraphimblade" title="User talk:Seraphimblade">Talk to me</a></sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Seraphimblade-20241127043200-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seraphimblade-20241127043200-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Seraphimblade-20241127043200-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125012300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133000-Seraphimblade-20241127043200"></span>Correct. They have have both 500 new edits <i>and</i> have passed six months. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133000-Seraphimblade-20241127043200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133000-Seraphimblade-20241127043200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121121700-GhostOfDanGurney"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256395271">.mw-parser-output .hidden-archive{box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;width:100%;clear:both;text-align:center;padding:1px;margin:0.2em auto 0;font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .hat-header{padding:0.25em 1em;line-height:1.5em;text-align:center;background-color:#f2dfce;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .hat-content{border:solid 1px silver;padding:8px;background-color:#fff4f2;color:inherit;text-align:left}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}</style> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header">No action, being looked into in another report. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121121700-GhostOfDanGurney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121121700-GhostOfDanGurney"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241121121700-GhostOfDanGurney"></span> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;">The following discussion has been closed. <span style="color:var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <p><small><i>This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. <br/>Requests may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115040300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115040300"></span>Request concerning GhostOfDanGurney<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115040300"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Request concerning GhostOfDanGurney"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115040300-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span>User who is submitting this request for enforcement</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Contributions/Southasianhistorian8">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Southasianhistorian8">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Log/Southasianhistorian8">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Southasianhistorian8">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Southasianhistorian8" title="Special:Block/Southasianhistorian8">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ASouthasianhistorian8">block log</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115040300-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115040300-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115040300-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span>User against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:DeletedContributions/GhostOfDanGurney">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Log/GhostOfDanGurney">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=GhostOfDanGurney">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/GhostOfDanGurney" title="Special:Block/GhostOfDanGurney">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AGhostOfDanGurney">block log</a>)</span><p><span class="plainlinks">Search CT alerts<a href="/wiki/Template:Contentious_topics/log" title="Template:Contentious topics/log">:</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&action=history&tagfilter=contentious+topics+alert">in user talk history</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=602&wpSearchTitle=User+talk%3AGhostOfDanGurney">in system log</a></span></p></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Sanction or remedy to be enforced</dt> <dd>Topic ban on India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan related topics.</dd></dl> <dl><dt><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DIFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DIFF">Diffs</a> of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation <i>how</i> these edits violate it</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Air_India_Flight_182&diff=prev&oldid=1176135567">19 September 2023</a> Tendentious edit warring alleging "anti-Canada POV pushing" despite numerous editors' objections and RS</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1181222775">21 October 2023</a> Admits to harassing another user he was in a content dispute with on Twitter.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_relations&diff=prev&oldid=1253300634">25 October 2024</a> <s>Personal attacks</s> Inflammatory edit summary, accusing of cherrypicking and being without evidence, even though most of the article included content for which evidence was not publicly disclosed and WP:OWN behaviour</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_relations&diff=prev&oldid=1252677040">22 October 2024</a> More <s>personal attacks</s> inflammatory edit summaries, also acknolwedged by ScottishFinnishRadish in the 1st AE</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row&diff=prev&oldid=1253449989">26 October 2024</a> Replaces neutrally worded sentence with an inflammatory and tendentious interpretation of a primary source as acknowledged by ScottishFinnishRadish, clearly attempting to publicly discredit the diplomat, thus violating WP:BLP. Also a clear case of WP:HOUNDING and WP:OWN behaviour. (Also the impetus to this while conflict)</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Southasianhistorian8">26 October 2024</a> Files an A/E request over a content dispute, wasting a large amount of community time</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1253480401">26 October 2024</a> Falsely claimed I plagiarized his work</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1257477980">15 November 2024</a> WP:IDHT, brazenly ignoring sources right above him which explicitly state that Dalla's alleged criminal network was linked to Khalistani militancy</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Southasianhistorian8&diff=prev&oldid=1257317133">14 November 2024</a> Makes an inflammatory and condescending post on my talk page, accusing me of WP:NPOV violations and threatening to escalate matters before engaging on the t/p.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1257383186">14 November 2024</a> Files another A/E request days after his first failed one over 1(!) revert and me responding to his escalation on my t/p. Instead of following WP:BRD, Ghost is filing frivolous reports forcing this platform to be a substitute for content issues. He did not engage with my arguments on the t/p of the Nijjar page which I laid out right after he reverted me, instead he immediately filed a 2nd report, then waited multiple hours to respond to my points on the t/p. He cannot even abide by Wikipedia's most fundamental policy which is to <b>discuss</b> when you have a disagreement with someone, not intimidate them through reports.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1257467026">15 November 2024</a> Falsely claimed I was in violation of edit warring, citing a total of <b>one</b> revert.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1258667371">20 November 2024</a> Further exhibits bizarre, unprovoked aggression despite a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1258627850">DRN being underway</a>, where editors are expected to try to reach a consensus civilly.</li></ol> <dl><dt>Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=972926748">14 August 2020</a> Blocked for personal attacks</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=846612788">19 June 2018</a> Blocked for edit warring</li></ol> <dl><dt>If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">contentious topics restrictions</a> are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP#Awareness_of_contentious_topics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics</a>)</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ul><li>Previously given a discretionary sanction or contentious topic restriction or warned for conduct in the area of conflict on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1181174355">21 October 2023</a> by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kautilya3">Kautilya3</a></span>.</li> <li>Gave CTOPS warning in this topic area on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0&diff=prev&oldid=1252075237">19 October 2024</a></li></ul> <dl><dt>Additional comments by editor filing complaint</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <p>GhostOfDanGurney has a history of being incredibly rude and juvenile when engaged in content disputes. He regularly calls people names, assumes bad faith or incites drama through his inflammatory bheaviour-<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=839161588">Be gone thot</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1052051049">Actually, I'll let people see how much of a hypocrite you are for posting this fucking bullshit.</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1041986090">[23]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=846616405">[24]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1176557150">[25]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1181175680">[26]</a>, among numerous other diffs. Constantly exhibits tendentious and WP:OWN behaviour in articles-<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_diplomatic_row&diff=prev&oldid=1253449989">[27]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canada%E2%80%93India_relations&diff=prev&oldid=1253300634">[28]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1257312443">[29]</a> + <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1096595768">[30]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1089463806">[31]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1090979909">[32]</a>. </p> <dl><dd>Even barring the personal attacks, how is it fair that he's non stop filing frivolous reports against me-in the most recent A/E he filed, it was literally over one revert, content he personally didn't like, and me responding to his escalation on my t/p (pretty ironic considering what he says on his own t/p). Instead of engaging with my points on the article's t/p, he filed a 2nd A/E. How is that not brazen harassment and bullying and a major waste of time? How in the world is that not a weaponization of A/E to get one over an editor they dislike? <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500-Request_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a> The definition of militancy is as follows: "the use of confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause." Militancy almost always involves criminal behaviour and actions, does it not? Otherwise it wouldn't be called militancy, it'd be called activism. A criminal network alleged to be close the Khalistan movement apparently does not mean violent actions taken out in order to support the movement? <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:38, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800-Southasianhistorian8-20241115045500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/GhostOfDanGurney&target=GhostOfDanGurney&offset=20241118032954">your A/E request against me</a>- stated that I have a WP:LISTENing (IDHT) problem. Please give me examples in the past 2 years where I <i>specifically</i> acted against or ignored <b>community consensus</b> in terms of a content dispute. If you are unable to do so, it'll be overly clear that you're just throwing anything on the wall against me, as a substitute for engaging on the t/p, despite yourself<b> far more </b>being guilty of the same accusations you throw out. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000-Southasianhistorian8-20241115073800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000"></span>Now that a DRN is underway, it would be nice for you to at least temporarily stop inciting conflict and work towards a consensus there. If you are unable to do so, admins should issue an immediate block for failing to discuss despite initiating a content dispute and battleground behaviour. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121000400-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User:GhostOfDanGurney">GhostOfDanGurney</a>, an A/E report was well overdue given your lengthy and egregious WP:OWN and inflammatory conduct on various articles. You constantly using this platform as a substitute for BRD pushed it over the edge, <i>and in of itself is sanctionable.</i> The desperation to bar anyone from examining his atrocious conduct is telling. <a href="/wiki/User:Southasianhistorian8" title="User:Southasianhistorian8">Southasianhistorian8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Southasianhistorian8" title="User talk:Southasianhistorian8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121000400-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121000400-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Southasianhistorian8-20241121000400-Southasianhistorian8-20241120233300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dt>Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney&diff=prev&oldid=1257487887">[33]</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span>Discussion concerning GhostOfDanGurney<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Discussion concerning GhostOfDanGurney"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><i>Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.<br/>Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span>Statement by GhostOfDanGurney<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Statement by GhostOfDanGurney"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney"></span>In their statement in the above request against them, they said, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">"He has yet to engage in the t/p of the article where I laid out sources and arguments"</q>. So I commented on the talk page,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar&diff=prev&oldid=1257477980">[34]</a> saying that I opposed the content as (in addition to the BLPCRIME issue) there was already adequate sourced content on <a href="/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar#Allegations_of_militant_activity" title="Hardeep Singh Nijjar">Hardeep Singh Nijjar#Allegations of militant activity</a> (it's already the largest section of the article). This had nothing to do with the additional sources SAH presented to the talk page after I had removed the content. </p><p>I then wrote a sentence on the wording "criminal network" as used by SAH in their <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">>greentext</q> proposal which made no corroboration to any militancy, just allusions to "gangsters". It did not mention the KTF by name, and the preceding quote they posted only mentions "the Khalistan cause". An IDHT charge here is a <i>long</i> stretch that shows a misunderstanding of the policy, and to use the phrase <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">"brazenly ignoring"</q> here is an assumption of bad faith. If my above request doesn't result in sanctions against SAH, this frivolous request should. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800-Statement_by_GhostOfDanGurney"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span>What does any of that re: militancy have to do with me <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">"act[ing] as though [my] point must be accepted by the community when [I] have been told otherwise."</q>, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDHT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDHT">WP:IDHT</a>? I don't understand at all how my talk page comment violates IDHT. What about that specific comment is actionable here? ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115071800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200"></span>Is SAH is unable or unwilling to answer the above question, this retaliatory attempt at a <i><a href="/wiki/Tu_quoque" title="Tu quoque">tu quoque</a></i> style of ad hominem should be closed with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOOMERANG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOOMERANG">WP:BOOMERANG</a>. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115083200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120234500-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700"></span>That's twice now I've asked this question and gotten no response. It's obvious that this retaliatory request is a backdoor way to get around the 500-word limit that you ignored before <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a>:</span> told you to trim it. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120234500-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120234500-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120234500-GhostOfDanGurney-20241120224700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(username)_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(username)_2-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"><span id="Statement_by_.28username.29_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(username)_2-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span>Statement by (username)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(username)_2-Discussion_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Statement by (username)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" data-mw-thread-id="h-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115042200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115042200"></span>Result concerning GhostOfDanGurney<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney-GhostOfDanGurney-20241115042200"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Result concerning GhostOfDanGurney"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swatjester-20241115042200-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span>This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul> <p>This is unnecessary, and retaliatory. Spot checking of the diffs alleging personal attacks, I don't see anything remotely of the sort. Going back and digging up diffs from 2018 and 2021 is likewise unhelpful and represents a battleground mentality towards weaponizing an AE action that is deeply concerning. Honestly if SAH thought this was a good idea after not listening to the advice about dropping the stick and behaving more civilly on the other AE request, it probably merits <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOOMERANG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOOMERANG">boomerang sanctions</a> to stop the disruption. <a href="/wiki/User:Swatjester" title="User:Swatjester"><span style="color:red">⇒</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swatjester" title="User talk:Swatjester"><span style="font-family:Serif"><span style="color:black">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod">Jester</span></span></a> <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Swatjester-20241115042200-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swatjester-20241115042200-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swatjester-20241115042200-Result_concerning_GhostOfDanGurney"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swatjester-20241115044700-Swatjester-20241115042200"></span>SAH, I've looked at the diffs. The ones from 2024 don't appear actionable, and I think your characterizations of them as personal attacks are a stretch. The "thots" and "go fuck themselves" diffs were, as I mentioned, from 2018 and 2021, not directed at you, and were comments from his own talk page (which is a space where he is entitled to ask people to stop/leave within the confines of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:USERTALKSTOP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:USERTALKSTOP">WP:USERTALKSTOP</a>, and though it doesn't excuse the incivility of the language, we tend to give a degree of leeway in those cases.) So I don't see the relevance of those edits to your dispute with GhostofDanGurney today. <a href="/wiki/User:Swatjester" title="User:Swatjester"><span style="color:red">⇒</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swatjester" title="User talk:Swatjester"><span style="font-family:Serif"><span style="color:black">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod">Jester</span></span></a> <small><sup>Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!</sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Swatjester-20241115044700-Swatjester-20241115042200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swatjester-20241115044700-Swatjester-20241115042200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swatjester-20241115044700-Swatjester-20241115042200"></span></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116150000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116150000"></span>Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Ecrusized<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116150000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Ecrusized"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Femke-20241123154800-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256395271"> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header">Appeal declined. <a href="/wiki/User:Femke" title="User:Femke">—Femke 🐦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Femke" title="User talk:Femke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Femke-20241123154800-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Femke-20241123154800-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Femke-20241123154800-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecrusized-20241116150000-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>The following discussion has been closed. <span style="color:var(--color-error, red);"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <p><small><i>Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures">here</a>. According to the procedures, a "clear and substantial consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.</i></small> </p><p><small><i>To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections<span class="nowrap"> </span>but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNINVOLVED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNINVOLVED">WP:UNINVOLVED</a>).</i></small> </p> <dl><dt>Appealing user</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Ecrusized" title="User:Ecrusized">Ecrusized</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized" title="User talk:Ecrusized">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ecrusized" title="Special:Contributions/Ecrusized">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Ecrusized" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Ecrusized">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Ecrusized" title="Special:Log/Ecrusized">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Ecrusized">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Ecrusized" title="Special:Block/Ecrusized">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3AEcrusized">block log</a>)</span> – <a href="/wiki/User:Ecrusized" title="User:Ecrusized">Ecrusized</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized" title="User talk:Ecrusized">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ecrusized-20241116150000-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecrusized-20241116150000-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecrusized-20241116150000-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>Sanction being appealed</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CT/A-I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CT/A-I">WP:CT/A-I</a></dd></dl> <p>Sanction notice on user talk page. Diff: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ecrusized&diff=prev&oldid=1224781735">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ecrusized&diff=prev&oldid=1224781735</a> </p><p>Discussion leading to the block: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#WP:BATTLEGROUND_User:BilledMammal" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#WP:BATTLEGROUND User:BilledMammal</a> </p> <dl><dt>Administrator imposing the sanction</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Contributions/ScottishFinnishRadish">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/block/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Log/block/ScottishFinnishRadish">blocks</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/protect/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Log/protect/ScottishFinnishRadish">protections</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/delete/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Log/delete/ScottishFinnishRadish">deletions</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/move/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Log/move/ScottishFinnishRadish">page moves</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/rights/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:Log/rights/ScottishFinnishRadish">rights</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/ScottishFinnishRadish" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ScottishFinnishRadish">RfA</a>)</span></dd></dl> <dl><dt>Notification of that administrator</dt> <dd><i>The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DIFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DIFF">diff</a> of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.</i></dd></dl> <p>Diff: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish&diff=prev&oldid=1257767232">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish&diff=prev&oldid=1257767232</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Statement_by_Ecrusized" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116214200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116214200"></span>Statement by Ecrusized<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116214200"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Statement by Ecrusized"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecrusized-20241116214200-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span>Greetings all. Today is precisely the 180th day since the filing of my indefinite topic ban on the Arab-Israeli conflict. I was sanctioned for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BATTLEGROUND">WP:BATTLEGROUND</a> editing, not understanding the arbitration rules, (including 1RR). As well as a <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1223777044%7Cpersonal">commentary towards other editors</a>. During the past 6 months, I have completely refrained from editing any and all topics linked to the Arab-Israeli conflict on English Wikipedia. I have updated the maps of the Israel-Hamas war, and Israel-Hezbollah conflict, on Commons, after confirming with <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadar</a>, the administrator who sanctioned me, that editing commons was not in violation of my topic ban. I would like to appeal my topic ban in this area because I have now learned about the 1RR rule, what the arbitration commitee is and how its rules work. As well as my personal commentary towards other editors in the topic area. I believe my appeal is just as I have observed all of my sanctions rules since its enforcement, and I have waited 6 months to file this very first appeal on the ban as its required. Thank you all. </p><p><b>Ecrusized response to Red-tailed hawk</b> </p><p>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a>, neither of the two articles you've linked, which I have edited during my topic ban, are sanctioned under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CT/A-I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CT/A-I">WP:CT/A-I</a>. During the time of my sanctioning from the topic, I have checked the talk page header of every article I was editing to confirm beforehand that I was not violating my topic ban. <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a> is an article about US and British strikes on Yemen. The article is not linked to the Arab-Israeli conflict on its talk page header in any way. Instead, it is applied to enforcement for <i>post-1978 Iranian politics</i>. For which I was not placed under restriction for. Regarding the now deleted article, <a href="/w/index.php?title=2024_Turkish_Hostage_Crisis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2024 Turkish Hostage Crisis (page does not exist)">2024 Turkish Hostage Crisis</a> which I nominated for deletion. It was a news story citing Turkish language sources, once again, not linked to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CT/A-I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CT/A-I">WP:CT/A-I</a> nor in the scope of that topic. Both of the articles are also not linked Israel, or Arab-Israeli conflict in their categories. Additionally, I was told my the administrator giving me my sanction that I must refrain from editing topics involving Arab-Israeli conflict, which is what I did. I was not told that I must also refrain from editing topics that <i>might</i> be related to that topic area. This is why I am asking for an appeal, and giving a bold statement saying <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">During the past 6 months, I have completely refrained from editing any and all topics linked to the Arab-Israeli conflict on English Wikipedia</q>. If there are clear lines defining this topic ban, I believe I have completely abided by them. <a href="/wiki/User:Ecrusized" title="User:Ecrusized">Ecrusized</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized" title="User talk:Ecrusized">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ecrusized-20241116214200-Statement_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecrusized-20241116214200-Statement_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecrusized-20241116214200-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span> </p><p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecrusized-20241117104100-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span>Ecrusized 2nd response to Red-tailed hawk</b> </p><p>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a> you are indeed correct that <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a> was sanctioned under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPIA">WP:ARBPIA</a> at the time of my editing. However, this was not mentined in the talk page header where arbitration enforcements are generally written, and in my notion, without a guideline stating it as such, I did not consider US-UK strikes on Yemen within the scope of Arab-Israeli conflict. This does not appear to be a deliberate or blatant violation of my sanctioning from the topic area, but a misidentification of the enforcement, and its mandated expression. I believe I am asking my appeal in good faith. As an user who was previously heavily involved in editing Arab-Israeli conflict articles, I have nearly completely refrained from editing them, apart from one or two articles where the enforcement was not directly visible. <a href="/wiki/User:Ecrusized" title="User:Ecrusized">Ecrusized</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized" title="User talk:Ecrusized">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ecrusized-20241117104100-Statement_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecrusized-20241117104100-Statement_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecrusized-20241117104100-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span> </p><p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ecrusized-20241123103000-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span>Ecrusized response to Extraordinary Writ</b> </p><p>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a>, can you tell me about when I can make this appeal again, given that I will have refrained from any further violations or edit warring in other topic areas by then? Would it be another 6 months in minimum, or can I make an appeal, in say, 3 months from now? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Ecrusized" title="User:Ecrusized">Ecrusized</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized" title="User talk:Ecrusized">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Ecrusized-20241123103000-Statement_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ecrusized-20241123103000-Statement_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ecrusized-20241123103000-Statement_by_Ecrusized"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>Statement by ScottishFinnishRadish<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_ScottishFinnishRadish-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Statement by ScottishFinnishRadish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116203300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116203300"></span>Statement by Red-tailed hawk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241116203300"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Statement by Red-tailed hawk"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk"></span>I am going to note that the user continued to make edits to articles relating to the <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a>, a topic very much within the scope of the ongoing war (see <a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war#Yemen_and_the_Red_Sea" title="Israel–Hamas war">Israel–Hamas war#Yemen and the Red Sea</a>) after the topic ban was issued on 20 May. These edits include: </p> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen&diff=prev&oldid=1226550410">A substantial edit</a> to <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a> made on 31 May;</li> <li>A <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=30_May_2024_Yemen_strikes&diff=prev&oldid=1226709768">page</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Sanaa_strikes&oldid=1226709769">move</a> and associated <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:30_May_2024_Yemen_strikes&diff=prev&oldid=1226709770">talk page</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Sanaa_strikes&oldid=1226709771">move</a> related to a specific missile strike in Yemen that was moved on 1 June;</li> <li>Another <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen&diff=prev&oldid=122936955">set</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen&diff=prev&oldid=1229369652">of</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen&diff=prev&oldid=1229377184">edits</a> to <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a> on 16 June.</li> <li>The user <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2024_Turkish_hostage_crisis&oldid=1232748451">created</a> an AfD for <a href="/wiki/2024_Turkish_hostage_crisis" title="2024 Turkish hostage crisis">2024 Turkish hostage crisis</a> on 5 July. The article was about a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/factory-hostages-turkey-proctor-gamble-gaza-d246a7853e0982d589a1b1e0d7390380">hostage taking scenario</a> that was a protest against Israeli actions in Gaza.</li></ol> <p>As such, I am skeptical of the appellant's statement from above, where the appellant said <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">During the past 6 months, I have completely refrained from editing any and all topics linked to the Arab-Israeli conflict on English Wikipedia</q>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300-Statement_by_Red-tailed_hawk"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117022400-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"></span>In response to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1257834717">this comment</a>: <ol><li>With respect to <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">neither of the two articles you've linked, which I have edited during my topic ban, are sanctioned under WP:CT/A-I</q>, I will note that <a href="/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen" title="2024 missile strikes in Yemen">2024 missile strikes in Yemen</a> is <i>extended confirmed protected per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPIA">WP:ARBPIA</a></i> (see <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2024#c-Daniel_Quinlan-20240112211300-January%E2%80%93March">this comment</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AELOG/2024#PIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AELOG/2024">WP:AELOG/2024#PIA</a>), and that the infobox of <a href="/wiki/30_May_2024_Yemen_strikes" title="30 May 2024 Yemen strikes">30 May 2024 Yemen strikes</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=30_May_2024_Yemen_strikes&diff=prev&oldid=1226709768">at the time of the page move</a> indicated that this was part of the "spillover of the Israel–Hamas war". I do not understand how you reason that neither of these are within the scope of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BROADLY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BROADLY">WP:BROADLY</a> construed Arab-Israeli conflict.</li> <li>With respect to the deleted article, I have requested it be temporarily undeleted to show the text to everybody. However, it is quite clear to me that an article about a protest action <i>against Israel's actions in the ongoing war</i> would be within the scope of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BROADLY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BROADLY">WP:BROADLY</a> construed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PIA">WP:PIA</a> tban.</li></ol></dd> <dd>— <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117022400-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117022400-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117022400-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117024000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"></span>I will note that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Turkish_hostage_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=1257882406">2024 Turkish hostage crisis</a> has now been restored temporarily for the purposes of this discussion. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span></a> <sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk"><span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117024000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117024000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241117024000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241116203300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Statement_by_(involved_editor_2)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(involved_editor_2)-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span id="Statement_by_.28involved_editor_2.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(involved_editor_2)-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>Statement by (involved editor 2)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(involved_editor_2)-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Statement by (involved editor 2)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Ecrusized<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Ecrusized"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><i>Statements must be made in separate sections. 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Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span id="Statement_by_.28uninvolved_editor_1.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>Statement by (uninvolved editor 1)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_1)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Statement by (uninvolved editor 1)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span id="Statement_by_.28uninvolved_editor_2.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>Statement by (uninvolved editor 2)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(uninvolved_editor_2)-Discussion_among_uninvolved_editors_about_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Statement by (uninvolved editor 2)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized" data-mw-thread-id="h-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241122025000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241122025000"></span>Result of the appeal by Ecrusized<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized-Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Ecrusized-20241122025000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Result of the appeal by Ecrusized"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241122025000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li>Even putting RTH's concerns to the side, we still have <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1242856170">two</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ecrusized#Formal_warning_about_edit_warring">warnings</a> recently about 1RR/edit-warring issues—the very same issues that led to the topic ban. I can't support this appeal without a much better track record of avoiding revert-related problems. <a href="/wiki/User:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User:Extraordinary Writ">Extraordinary Writ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Extraordinary_Writ" title="User talk:Extraordinary Writ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241122025000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241122025000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Extraordinary_Writ-20241122025000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Femke-20241123154000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"></span>In response to the question about a possible re-appeal, please wait at least 6 months. I see you have scaled down your activity since the start of the topic ban, making it a bit more difficult to demonstrate a track record of unproblematic edits within 6 months. Note that further violations of your topic ban may lead to escalating blocks, so please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Topic_ban" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Topic ban">WP:topic ban</a> again to fully understand what broadly construed means (and ask the enforcing admin / any other admin when in doubt). <a href="/wiki/User:Femke" title="User:Femke">—Femke 🐦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Femke" title="User talk:Femke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Femke-20241123154000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Femke-20241123154000-Result_of_the_appeal_by_Ecrusized"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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<dd><a href="/wiki/User:Loveforwiki" title="User:Loveforwiki">Loveforwiki</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loveforwiki" title="User talk:Loveforwiki">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Loveforwiki" title="Special:Contributions/Loveforwiki">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Loveforwiki" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Loveforwiki">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Loveforwiki" title="Special:Log/Loveforwiki">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Loveforwiki">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Loveforwiki" title="Special:Block/Loveforwiki">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ALoveforwiki">block log</a>)</span><p><span class="plainlinks">Search CT alerts<a href="/wiki/Template:Contentious_topics/log" title="Template:Contentious topics/log">:</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loveforwiki&action=history&tagfilter=contentious+topics+alert">in user talk history</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=602&wpSearchTitle=User+talk%3ALoveforwiki">in system log</a></span></p></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Sanction or remedy to be enforced</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPAK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPAK">WP:ARBPAK</a></dd></dl> <dl><dt><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DIFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DIFF">Diffs</a> of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation <i>how</i> these edits violate it</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subhas_Chandra_Bose&diff=prev&oldid=1253089657">23 October</a> - Whitewashing with misleading edit summary. Trying to show that allegiance with <a href="/wiki/Nazism" title="Nazism">Nazism</a> and <a href="/wiki/Imperial_Japan" class="mw-redirect" title="Imperial Japan">Imperial Japan</a> is considered bad only in the western world.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Subhas_Chandra_Bose&diff=prev&oldid=1253662804">27 October</a> - Repeated the above again.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharat_country&oldid=1253267596">25 October</a> - Created this POV redirect "Bharat country" because he wasn't successful over changing the page on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bharat&action=history">Bharat</a>.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lal_Bahadur_Shastri&diff=1254735701&oldid=1254735163">1 November</a> - added a conspiracy theory</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devendra_Fadnavis&diff=prev&oldid=1256363578">9 November</a> - Removes reliably sourced content with dubious edit summary</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=India&diff=prev&oldid=1257119787">13 November</a> - Restores his edits without gaining consensus even after being <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=India&diff=prev&oldid=1252835533">told earlier not to do this</a>.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=India&diff=prev&oldid=1257168940">13 November</a> - Restores his above edit again by using aggressive edit summary</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J._Sai_Deepak&diff=prev&oldid=1257913722">17 November</a> - Suppresses the word "<a href="/wiki/Hindutva" title="Hindutva">Hindutva</a>" despite the subject being known for it</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Narendra_Modi&diff=prev&oldid=1258888145">23 November</a> - Removes the mention of "<a href="/wiki/Trinamool_Congress" title="Trinamool Congress">Trinamool Congress</a>" by locating them to <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a></li></ol> <dl><dt>Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <dl><dt>If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">contentious topics restrictions</a> are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP#Awareness_of_contentious_topics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics</a>)</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loveforwiki&diff=prev&oldid=1252855077">[35]</a></dd></dl> <dl><dt>Additional comments by editor filing complaint</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <p>I don't think this editor cares about the consensus process or anything else. He is here mainly to promote <a href="/wiki/Hindutva" title="Hindutva">Hindutva</a> agenda. <a href="/wiki/User:Capitals00" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Capitals00">Capitals00</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Capitals00" title="User talk:Capitals00">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Capitals00-20241124040100-Request_concerning_Loveforwiki-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Capitals00-20241124040100-Request_concerning_Loveforwiki-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Capitals00-20241124040100-Request_concerning_Loveforwiki-1"></span> </p> <dl><dt>Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loveforwiki&diff=prev&oldid=1259243492">[36]</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124044000"></span>Discussion concerning Loveforwiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124044000"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Discussion concerning Loveforwiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><i>Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.<br/>Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Loveforwiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Loveforwiki-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-20241124044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Loveforwiki-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-20241124044000"></span>Statement by Loveforwiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Loveforwiki-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki-20241124044000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Statement by Loveforwiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loveforwiki-20241124044000-Statement_by_Loveforwiki"></span><moved from Capitals00's section></small> I am not such kind of user. I adds contents with reliable sources. Sorry if anyone gets such vibes.. Sorry to.l Wikipedia communities. Love for Wikipedia always. <a href="/wiki/User:Loveforwiki" title="User:Loveforwiki">Loveforwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loveforwiki" title="User talk:Loveforwiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Loveforwiki-20241124044000-Statement_by_Loveforwiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loveforwiki-20241124044000-Statement_by_Loveforwiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loveforwiki-20241124044000-Statement_by_Loveforwiki"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(username)_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(username)_3-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki"><span id="Statement_by_.28username.29_3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(username)_3-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span>Statement by (username)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(username)_3-Discussion_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Statement by (username)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Result_concerning_Loveforwiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124102300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124102300"></span>Result concerning Loveforwiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki-Loveforwiki-20241124102300"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Result concerning Loveforwiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Femke-20241124102300-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span>This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li>I appreciate it can be frustrating to edit in a topic area where your views are often in the minority. If you find yourself in such a position, you'll need to come to talk pages with high-quality reliable sources (in high-profile contentious topics, scholarly sources may be needed to convince others). Using misleading edit summaries, attacking other editors (rather than <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Focus_on_content" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Focus on content">focusing on content</a>) and edit warring are incompatable with editing in a contentious area. Here, and with a previous warning <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loveforwiki&diff=prev&oldid=1252835796">[37]</a>, they do not seem interested in acknowledging fault and learning from mistakes. They continue to tag edits as minor <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_cinema_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257916395">[38]</a> that aren't, after being asked to stop in September. Further edits outside of the field (<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stree_2&diff=prev&oldid=1250888348">[39]</a>) indicate there may be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIR">broader competence</a> issue here. <a href="/wiki/User:Femke" title="User:Femke">—Femke 🐦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Femke" title="User talk:Femke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Femke-20241124102300-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Femke-20241124102300-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Femke-20241124102300-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Loveforwiki" title="User:Loveforwiki"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span>User:loveforwiki</a>: could you please answer my request to explain when you need to provide attribution in your edit summary? And explain what edit warring is (you denied you were engaged in an edit war on India before).</dd></dl></li> <li>I think the most AGF reading of this is that there is a CIR/language issue that is making it difficult to communicate effectively instead of deliberate POV pushing. Either way, I don't think they're a positive in the topic area. For me, the question is if there is a narrow topic ban that would be effective rather than the standard IPA. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Femke-20241127082000-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000"></span>You're thinking about a carve-out of cinema and sport? Are they neatly separated from politics in India, or do conflicts flow over to these topics a lot? I'm open to a narrower topic ban, but I do wonder if the CIR/language issue isn't going to lead to problems elsewhere. <a href="/wiki/User:Femke" title="User:Femke">—Femke 🐦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Femke" title="User talk:Femke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Femke-20241127082000-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Femke-20241127082000-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Femke-20241127082000-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125131000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133200-Femke-20241127082000"></span>From what I've seen there can be quite a significant amount of crossover, e.g. <a href="/wiki/The_Kashmir_Files" title="The Kashmir Files">The Kashmir Files</a>. This, along with few admins being very familiar with the topic, is why the topic bans in ARBIPA so often end up covering the whole kit and kaboodle. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133200-Femke-20241127082000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133200-Femke-20241127082000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241127133200-Femke-20241127082000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Blade_of_the_Northern_Lights-20241127134500-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"></span>I was ready to just go ahead and block, but I'd be content with an ARBIPA ban. It'd functionally be the same thing. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Blade_of_the_Northern_Lights" title="User:The Blade of the Northern Lights">The Blade of the Northern Lights</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Blade_of_the_Northern_Lights#top" title="User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights"><span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-The_Blade_of_the_Northern_Lights-20241127134500-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Blade_of_the_Northern_Lights-20241127134500-Result_concerning_Loveforwiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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<br/>Requests may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Request_concerning_Rasteem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125102200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125102200"></span>Request concerning Rasteem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125102200"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Request concerning Rasteem"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem"></span>User who is submitting this request for enforcement</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:NXcrypto" title="User:NXcrypto">NXcrypto</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NXcrypto" title="User talk:NXcrypto">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NXcrypto" title="Special:Contributions/NXcrypto">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/NXcrypto" title="Special:DeletedContributions/NXcrypto">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/NXcrypto" title="Special:Log/NXcrypto">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=NXcrypto">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/NXcrypto" title="Special:Block/NXcrypto">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ANXcrypto">block log</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem-1"></span>User against whom enforcement is requested</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Rasteem" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rasteem">Rasteem</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rasteem" title="User talk:Rasteem">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rasteem" title="Special:Contributions/Rasteem">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Rasteem" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Rasteem">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Rasteem" title="Special:Log/Rasteem">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Rasteem">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Rasteem" title="Special:Block/Rasteem">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ARasteem">block log</a>)</span><p><span class="plainlinks">Search CT alerts<a href="/wiki/Template:Contentious_topics/log" title="Template:Contentious topics/log">:</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&action=history&tagfilter=contentious+topics+alert">in user talk history</a> • <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&wpSearchFilter=602&wpSearchTitle=User+talk%3ARasteem">in system log</a></span></p></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dt>Sanction or remedy to be enforced</dt> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBIPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBIPA">WP:ARBIPA</a></dd></dl> <dl><dt><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DIFF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DIFF">Diffs</a> of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation <i>how</i> these edits violate it</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devaraja_(Bhoja_dynasty)&diff=prev&oldid=1246785835">07:15, 21 September 2024 </a> - Introduces close paraphrased content into an article <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1254733025#November_2024">[40]</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoysala_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254210799">04:14, 30 October 2024</a> - Moves a page against the naming convention.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoysala_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254615224">02:59, 1 November 2024</a> - Edit wars over the same page move with another user while calling it vandalism .</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256310696">13:52, 9 November 2024</a> - Does not understand that he is edit warring in spite of being warned about it and doing exactly that.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256311270">13:58, 9 November 2024 </a> - Labels edit warring warning he received from me as "retaliatory" when I never interacted with him before this encounter.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256313419">14:21, 9 November 2024</a> - Calling a general sanctions alert on caste topics as a "retaliatory warning".</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256396797">00:51, 10 November 2024</a> - Accuses another editor of POV pushing when no one other than him was making a pseudohistorical claim that Zafar Khan of Muzaffarid dynasty was a Jat contravening the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Political_marriages_in_India#Muzaffarids">academic discussion</a> on the same.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adamantine123&diff=prev&oldid=1256417896">03:00, 10 November 2024</a> - Claims that he only made a single revert when he has made 3 in 24 hours. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256396797">[41]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256310343">[42]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256287174">[43]</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&diff=prev&oldid=1256403576">01:32, 10 November 2024</a> -Misidentifying an academic Priyanka Khanna with a fashion designer to remove sourced content <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&oldid=1256468172#Priyanka_Khanna">[44]</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&curid=77681490&diff=1256498720&oldid=1256468172">11:28 10 November 2024</a> - Removes good faith talkpage message about above and a general note regarding using minor edits while calling them retaliatory.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257417551">01:49, 15 November 2024</a> - Does not understand WP:BRD, immediately restores his content after being reverted and then asks others to follow BRD.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257532555">17:31, 15 November 2024</a> - Tells others to follow WP:BRD while edit warring to restore his own edits that were reverted, the irony is lost on him.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1258026560">01:13, 18 November 2024</a> - Tries to poison the well against me based on a made up on the spot rule ("2RR") when I simply gave my feedback which was requested by an Admin before granting their <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PERM/RB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PERM/RB">WP:PERM/RB</a> request.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HistorianAlferedo&diff=prev&oldid=1259370391">02:00, 25 November 2024</a> - Abuses warning templates on a new user's talkpage and then reverts the user when they clear their page. Also review <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User+talk%3AHistorianAlferedo&date-range-to=2024-11-25&tagfilter=&action=history">this revision</a> history of their page to see the severity of abuse of warning templates and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BITEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BITEY">WP:BITEY</a> behaviour.</li></ol> <dl><dt>Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any</dt> <dd></dd></dl> <ol><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a> Explanation</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink2">Date</a> Explanation</li></ol> <dl><dt>If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Contentious_topics" title="Wikipedia:Contentious topics">contentious topics restrictions</a> are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CTOP#Awareness_of_contentious_topics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CTOP">WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics</a>)</dt> <dd><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1254196715">[45]</a></dd></dl> <ul><li>Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above.</li> <li>Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction or contentious topic restriction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above.</li> <li>Previously given a discretionary sanction or contentious topic restriction or warned for conduct in the area of conflict on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a> by <a href="/wiki/User:Username" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Username">Username</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Username" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Username">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Username" title="Special:Contributions/Username">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/block/Username" title="Special:Log/block/Username">blocks</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/protect/Username" title="Special:Log/protect/Username">protections</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/delete/Username" title="Special:Log/delete/Username">deletions</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/move/Username" title="Special:Log/move/Username">page moves</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/rights/Username" title="Special:Log/rights/Username">rights</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Username" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Username">RfA</a>)</span>.</li> <li>Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a> (see the system log linked to above).</li> <li>Gave an alert about contentious topics in the area of conflict to another editor, on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a></li> <li>Participated in process about the area of conflict (such as a request or appeal at AE, AN or an Arbitration Committee process page), on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a>.</li> <li>Successfully appealed all their own sanctions relating to the area of conflict, on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Difflink1">Date</a>.</li> <li>Placed a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Contentious_topics/aware" title="Template:Contentious topics/aware">Contentious topics/aware</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template for the area of conflict on their own talk page.</li> <li>Otherwise made edits indicating an awareness of the contentious topic.</li></ul> <dl><dt>Additional comments by editor filing complaint</dt> <dd>Rasteem is repeatedly failing to meet the standards of acceptable behavior, biting new users, and assuming hostility and bad faith on the part of established editors. His editing in this topic area has been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEND">tendentious</a>.Despite being alerted sanctions on caste and WP:ARBIPA, he continues to take part in this behavior and displays <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIR">WP:CIR</a> issues. There may also be a language barrier given his poorly written or incomprehensible responses. To prevent further disruption in this highly contentious area, I believe a topic ban is the minimum necessary measure here.<a href="/wiki/User:NXcrypto" title="User:NXcrypto"><span style="color:#004400;"><b>Nxcrypto</b></span></a> <small><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NXcrypto" title="User talk:NXcrypto">Message</a></small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NXcrypto-20241125102200-Request_concerning_Rasteem-1"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NXcrypto-20241127022000-Request_concerning_Rasteem"></span>There is a lot to unpack in the wall of text posted by Rasteem. </p> <ul><li>6th - This is entirely misleading <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rasteem#c-Rasteem-20241110104200-Ratnahastin-20241110074500">[46]</a>. You did not address how my warning was retaliatory, in fact you are basically still saying that my first ever interaction with you was still somehow retaliatory, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=next&oldid=1256531559">this explains it better than I can do</a></li> <li>7th -It was not a copy edit, you used a poor cited source(that doesn't have an author) for pushing his caste as Jat, the source in question & quotation in question was added by you in the first place<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1254187887">[47]</a>.Wikipedia is not a place for boosting a certain caste.</li> <li>8th - You say that you understand what 3RR is but you are still claiming that making 3 reverts in 24 hours violates it which is not correct.</li> <li>10th - If you are allowed to remove your messages after you read them, why did you restore your warnings on a newcomer's talkpage, if they have removed it themselves?</li> <li>13th - Bringing up the conduct of other users in order to make their comments less valid when your own edits are under scrutiny is classic <a href="/wiki/Poison_the_well" class="mw-redirect" title="Poison the well">Poison the well</a> fallacy. Your continued attempt to defend that hostile stance there is concerning</li> <li>14th - You were simply told to leave warnings, not abuse them, abuse is when you give warnings that are not appropriate. I can see that you have given that user multiple final level warnings for vandalism when they clearly did not vandalise, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTVANDAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTVANDAL">WP:NOTVANDAL</a> and you are not supposed to issue a warning that is meant to be final again and again, for example you reverted this <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1259372071">addition of hyperlinks</a> by a new user <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:HistorianAlferedo" title="User:HistorianAlferedo">HistorianAlferedo</a>:</span> and issued them a final warning for vandalism,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HistorianAlferedo&diff=prev&oldid=1259372221">[48]</a> when no one would ever regard that edit as vandalism. You reverted this sourced and well explained edit by the same user and gave them a final warning for vandalism<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HistorianAlferedo&diff=prev&oldid=1257636879">[49]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Man_Singh_Tomar&diff=prev&oldid=1257636786">[50]</a> Similar thing here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kharota_Syedan&diff=next&oldid=1259092135">[51]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HistorianAlferedo&diff=prev&oldid=1259372583">[52]</a>. You also restored your warnings after they had cleared them despite being aware of the fact that when a user clears their talkpage it is assumed they have read it. The fact that you do not understand that you were abusing the warnings and are now deflecting the blame saying admins told you to do that is very concerning. <a href="/wiki/User:NXcrypto" title="User:NXcrypto"><span style="color:#004400;"><b>Nxcrypto</b></span></a> <small><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:NXcrypto" title="User talk:NXcrypto">Message</a></small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-NXcrypto-20241127022000-Request_concerning_Rasteem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NXcrypto-20241127022000-Request_concerning_Rasteem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NXcrypto-20241127022000-Request_concerning_Rasteem"></span></li></ul> <dl><dt>Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1259368897/1259473328">[53]</a></dt> <dd></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_concerning_Rasteem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem"></span>Discussion concerning Rasteem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Discussion concerning Rasteem"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><small><i>Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 <a href="/wiki/Word_count#Software" title="Word count">words</a> and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.<br/>Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.</i></small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_Rasteem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_Rasteem-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_Rasteem-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem"></span>Statement by Rasteem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_Rasteem-Discussion_concerning_Rasteem"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Statement by Rasteem"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><b>Answers to all questions:</b> </p><p>1. That was the first <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devaraja_(Bhoja_dynasty)&diff=prev&oldid=1246779984">article I ever created</a> using sources rather than creating <a href="/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Khoda_Afarin" title="List of villages in Khoda Afarin">a list page</a> before creating this page, I was aware of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_violations" title="Wikipedia:Copyright violations">COPYVIO</a> but I wasn't fully aware of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing" title="Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing">close paragraphing</a> So when I received a general note <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1254660770">on 01:32, 1 November 2024</a> for this mistake<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Devaraja_(Bhoja_dynasty)&diff=prev&oldid=1254658617">[54]</a> I didn't repeat such a mistake again and will also not repeat it in the future. </p><p>2. I moved this page from <a href="/wiki/Hoysala_Kingdom" title="Hoysala Kingdom">Hoysala Kingdom</a> to <a href="/wiki/Hoysala_kingdom" class="mw-redirect" title="Hoysala kingdom">Hoysala kingdom</a>, giving an edit summary "move per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLECAPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLECAPS">WP:TITLECAPS</a>". I thought the word "Kingdom" was not the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMANNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMANNAME">part of the full name</a>. That's why I moved this page,<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoysala_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254615224">[55]</a> I also did the same thing for other pages, including the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Chand_Kingdom&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Chand Kingdom (page does not exist)">Chand Kingdom</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chand_kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1253589439">[56]</a>,<a href="/wiki/Kumaon_Kingdom" class="mw-redirect" title="Kumaon Kingdom">Kumaon Kingdom</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kumaon_kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254201106">[57]</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kampili_Kingdom" class="mw-redirect" title="Kampili Kingdom">Kampili Kingdom</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kampili_kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254423959">[58]</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Katyuri_Kingdom" class="mw-redirect" title="Katyuri Kingdom">Katyuri Kingdom</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katyuri_kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1253587203">[59]</a> After getting a general notice on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1254733025">November 1, 2024</a> About moving the Hoysala Kingdom page, I make sure to be more careful and avoid making similar mistakes. </p><p>3. 1st time on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoysala_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254210799">22:44, 29 October 2024</a> I moved <a href="/wiki/Hoysala_Kingdom" title="Hoysala Kingdom">Hoysala Kingdom</a> > <a href="/wiki/Hoysala_kingdom" class="mw-redirect" title="Hoysala kingdom">Hoysala kingdom</a> then the 2nd time over redirect on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hoysala_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1254615224">21:29, 31 October 2024 </a> but with the gap of 2 days (29 October - 31 October) when I moved the same page twice, I explained my reason that '"Revert page-move vandalism (WP:MOVEVANDAL): Read WP:TITLECAPS & "Kingdom" is not a part of the full name. This doesn't require any consensus."<b> same as I explained above in my answer #2 </b>after this <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1254733025">general note regarding this page move</a>, I didn't make a similar mistake.<b> </b>It was my mistake <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Apology" title="Wikipedia:Apology">I truly apologize for this mistake</a> in feature I'll consider making request for controversial page moves on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests">WP:RM/TR</a>. </p><p>5. On <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a> there was a content dispute among different editors. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&action=history&offset=&limit=250">[60]</a> This was my first time dealing with a disagreement about article content, which accidentally led to an edit war in <b>answer#8</b> I've explained in depth. I talked to the editor who reverted my edits, and we discussed it on my talk page. I explained that I didn't mean to conduct an edit war.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=next&oldid=1256536192&diffonly=1">[61]</a> I was also the main person adding more information to the article. Further, I was the one who mostly worked on expanding this article. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1254187587">[62]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1254187887">[63]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1255399817">[64]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1255403896">[65]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1255406194">[66]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256424155">[67]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257226467">[68]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257233915">[69]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257233915">[70]</a> It was actually a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_dispute" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Content dispute">content dispute</a>. Not intentionally an edit war; also, this was the first time I had ever seen such a situation, and I explained my intention on my talk page with the fellow editor, where I clearly explain my intention was not to conduct an edit war.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=next&oldid=1256536192&diffonly=1">[71]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256531559">[72]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256535333">[73]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256540088">[74]</a> Furthermore, I discussed the same issue with a fellow editor on his talk page and also on talk page of an admin. Where I share my concern that there might be a content dispute and I'm only receiving edit warning notices just after making constructive edits on <a href="/wiki/Rajput" title="Rajput">Rajput</a>, <a href="/wiki/Rajput_clans" title="Rajput clans">Rajput clans</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>, here are diffs to read my conversation. On <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adamantine123" title="User talk:Adamantine123">User talk:Adamantine123</a> on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Adamantine123&diff=prev&oldid=1256417896">21:30, 9 November 2024</a> also on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ToBeFree" title="User talk:ToBeFree">Talk:ToBeFree</a> on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToBeFree&diff=prev&oldid=1256538234">11:25, 10 November 2024</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToBeFree&diff=prev&oldid=1256544817">[75]</a> </p><p>6. About General notice of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GSCASTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GSCASTE">WP:GSCASTE</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256313419">[76]</a> I gave an explanation to an editor who gave me this general contentious topic notice.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256540088">[77]</a> Also, I gave a full explanation about considering his warning as a retaliatory warning & I provided him full reasonable explanation. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256531559">[78]</a> further in more depth the same issue I discussed in question <b>question#5</b>, where I discussed with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">Admin:ToBeFree</a> where he explained. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToBeFree&diff=prev&oldid=1256626483">[79]</a> General contentious notice by a user was okay, but it should only be given to a user once. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256313211">[80]</a> </p><p> 7. First of all, my addition in <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India#Muzaffarid_dynasty" title="Political marriages in India">Zafar Khan's paragraph</a> as <a href="/wiki/Jats" title="Jats">Jat</a> ruler was only a <a href="/wiki/Copy_editing" title="Copy editing">copyedit</a> per the cited source in <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India#_Muzaffarid_dynasty" title="Political marriages in India">subheading of Muzaffarid dynasty</a>. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style></p><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>The independent kingdom of Gujarat was founded by Zafar Khan, son of Sadharan, a <b>Jat</b> convert to Islam. Sadharan's sister was married to Firuz Tughluq. Zafar Khan was appointed gover- nor of Gujarat in 1391, with the title Muzaffar Khan.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup></p></blockquote><p>I wasn't trying to promote a specific POV. My goal was simply to make sure the text matched what the source claimed. I first <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India#Muzaffarid_dynasty" title="Political marriages in India">copyedited this paragraph</a> per cited source.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256320037">[81]</a> My edit was labeled as a <i>shameful attempt</i> with a provoking comment on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Political_marriages_in_India" title="Talk:Political marriages in India">Talk page</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256350018">[82]</a> I reverted this edit, considering it POV pushing. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256396797">[83]</a> When my same edit was reverted by a different editor, I didn't make further attempts to reinstate it. </p><p>8. This was my first experience unintentionally engaging in any edit war, during which I unintentionally committed a 3RR violation on 9 November, 2024. At the time, '<i>I was unaware that the 3RR policy not only applies to making reverts using rollback/revert features of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle" title="Wikipedia:Twinkle">Twinkle</a> on the same page three times within 24 hours but also apply removing other users's edits through manually or undo features; it also counts as a <a href="/wiki/Revert" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Revert">revert</a>'</i>. So I wasn't really aware that it also counts as a revert if you manually or using undo remove edits of another editor, and I was not in the intention of conducting an edit war. I accidentally broke the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">3RR</a> rule: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:1RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:1RR">1st revert</a> was manually removing content, then <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:2RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:2RR">two reverts</a> were making 2RR using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle" title="Wikipedia:Twinkle">Twinkle</a> tool. I sincerely apologize, and I'll make a promise that I will not conduct 3RR in the feature <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Apology" title="Wikipedia:Apology">please accept my apology considering it my first & last mistake</a> of violating 3RR with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LACK">lack of knowledge of</a> the 3RR rule in depth. <b>So when I claimed I didn't conduct an edit war, I said it in the sense that I made only 2 reverts using the twinkle tool's feature rollback on <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a> then how do I conduct 3RR? </b> So then a fellow editor, told me that I conducted an edit war, but this was truly unintentionally; further, from 9th October till now, I didn't violate 3RR on any pages and will always refrain from making this type of mistake again. Later I truly came to know the 3RR rule. That said <b>"An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. <a href="/w/index.php?title=An_edit_or_a_series_of_consecutive_edits_that_undoes_or_manually_reverses_other_editors%27_actions%E2%80%94whether_in_whole_or_in_part%E2%80%94counts_as_a_revert&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert (page does not exist)">An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert</a>."</b> Also this issue I had discussed here that my intention was not to conduct any edit war.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rasteem&diff=prev&oldid=1256540088">[84]</a> Mistakenly for the first time, 3RR was conducted by myself without any intention or knowing the bold rule of 3RR that on the same page we're not allowed to remove edits of other editors, not just using the Rollback/revert feature but also not allowed to remove manually or using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Undo" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Undo">undo</a> option within 24hr. <span style="color:orange"><b>I'd like to leave an explanation in my defense without any motive of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">PA</a> "NXcrypto" himself intentionally or unintentionally violate 3RR rule.</b></span> Most recently, he violated <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">3RR</a> on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Magadhan_Empire" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magadhan Empire">Magadhan Empire</a> on 17 October within 3_hours (Time 6:32 to 9:14).<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magadhan_Empire&diff=prev&oldid=1257914884">[85]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magadhan_Empire&diff=prev&oldid=1257883987">[86]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Magadhan_Empire&diff=prev&oldid=1257936952">[87]</a> page is now deleted through <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion">AFD</a>. When with diffs, I explained this on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback" title="Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback">Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback</a> he considered it as "Poison the well/or personal attack". <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mistakes_are_allowed" title="Wikipedia:Mistakes are allowed"><i>So I think he should understand everyone makes mistakes</i></a> when he made the same mistake on 17 November, 2024, and I made the same mistake for the first on 9 November, 2024 on political marriages in India. </p><p>9. There was a misunderstanding about the author <a href="/w/index.php?title=Priyanka_Khanna&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Priyanka Khanna (page does not exist)">Priyanka Khanna</a>, as there are more than one authors with the same names in India. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&diff=prev&oldid=1256403576">[88]</a> 1st Priyanka Khanna I mistakenly thought she was the author of that particular journal. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.penguin.co.in/book_author/priyanka-khanna/">[89]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://jaipurliteraturefestival.org/speaker/priyanka-r-khanna">[90]</a> But second, Priyanka Khanna, who actually wrote the journal, was this one. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://jawaharlalanehrunewdelhiindia.academia.edu/PriyankaKhanna">[91]</a> </p><p>10. As I'm allowed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWNTALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWNTALK">remove my own talk page messages after reading</a> it. Also, an admin confirmed that I'm allowed to remove all notices/messages from my talk page. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToBeFree&diff=prev&oldid=1256626483">[92]</a> after reading such notices or replying. Also, I've briefly explained to a fellow editor why I consider his warning notices as retaliatory warnings. I've answered this in <b>answers #6</b> with a diff. </p><p>11. <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257417551">On 20:19, 14 November 2024</a> After this bold revert, I didn't make any further reverts on this page. And left a notice on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257422044">20:41, 14 November 2024</a> on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Political_marriages_in_India" title="Talk:Political marriages in India">Talk: Political marriages in India</a> regarding recent revert and removal of sourced content following the WP:BRD rule. </p><p>12. After posting the last comment on Talk: Political marriages in India, the next day on <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1257532555">12:01, 15 November 2024</a> I restored the revision of Adamantine123, and after this I didn't make any reverts or changes on this page, so I did follow WP:BRD rule from 14 November till now. </p><p>13. I didn't try to poison the well against anyone after this <a href="/wiki/Comment" class="mw-disambig" title="Comment">comment</a> by NXcrypto <span style="color:green;">"I assume Rasteem is on the verge of getting topic banned for his aggressive and frequent edit warring, especially on caste topics. I really don't think he can be trusted with any advanced permissions at all."</span>"Where he didn't justify how the <a href="/wiki/Caste" title="Caste">caste based</a> topic ban is relevant or a matter without actual conduct of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Disruptive">disruptions/non conservative</a> edits or true violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:General_sanctions/South_Asian_social_groups" title="Wikipedia:General sanctions/South Asian social groups">WP:CASTE</a>. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1257894741">[93]</a> In my defense, I briefly gave my explanations; my replies weren't in the intention of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">P_Attacks</a> At least I have the right to give my explanations. Don't I have the right?. So I just gave my explanations when NXcrypto said, "<i>Rasteem on the verge of topic ban on caste related pages</i> without any actual meaning or <a href="/wiki/Off_topic" title="Off topic">going off topic</a>".<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1258026560">[94]</a> </p><p>14. I was advised by an experienced <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ADMIN">administrator</a> that you have to leave an edit warning for every revert you made without digging into the number of edits of a user or edit history. Please read here when I request a rollback right. Admin: <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fastily">Fastily</a></span> advised me. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1255046883">[95]</a> When I asked him, it will be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BITEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BITEY">Back Bitting</a>?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1255049844">[96]</a> He replied, No, that's not correct. If I give many edit warnings for each edit revert I made or give an edit warning to a user just after their one or two edits on Wikipedia.<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1255049492">[97]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1255049844">[98]</a> <i>He replied that's incorrect, and it is necessary to leave an edit warning for each revert you made.</i> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=next&oldid=1255055018&diffonly=1">[99]</a> Where I assure to <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fastily">Fastily</a></span> further, I'll always give an edit warning notice even for a single revert I made against the revision of any user/IP without counting their number of edits. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback&diff=prev&oldid=1255055018">[100]</a> So it was <i>not any Abuses warning templates on a new user's talk pages.</i> As I was advised to do by an admin, I was following up admin's advice. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Note_for_the_Admin:" data-mw-thread-id="h-Note_for_the_Admin:-Rasteem-20241126224500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Note_for_the_Admin:-Rasteem-20241126224500"></span><i>Note for the Admin:</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Note_for_the_Admin:-Rasteem-20241126224500"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Note for the Admin:"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Without going wrong, I'd like to explain that I had no interaction with NXcrypto before the first, and the final interaction was only on <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>. On my rollback request, when the admin asked for his opinion, <i>he claimed Rasteem is on the verge of the topic ban</i>. Later he filed this report instead of resolving the content dispute on Talk page. He filed this report, which seems like a coordinated attempt to get rid of edit disputes from <a href="/wiki/Arbitration" title="Arbitration">Arbitration Enforcement</a>. I'll request the admin please also consider this. I had no interaction with this user before the first interaction, which was only on <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>, where he reverted mine, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Admantine123" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Admantine123">Admantine123</a>:</span> & <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LukeEmily">LukeEmily</a></span>'s edits. First he claimed I'm on the verge of a topic ban, then he filed this report, which is fine, but I think he did this after a content dispute that we had on <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>. Same kind of issue I discussed with <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToBeFree&diff=prev&oldid=1256538234">Admin:ToBeFree</a> that something is wrong; why I'm getting edit warnings notices just after making constructive edits on <a href="/wiki/Rajput" title="Rajput">Rajput</a> page & <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>. </p><p>I acknowledge and apologize for the mistakes I made, all of which were first-time errors. I've learned from them and taken steps for the correction. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mistakes_are_allowed" title="Wikipedia:Mistakes are allowed">Consider these mistakes I conduct for the first time as a beginner or learner in different areas of the encyclopedia</a>. I'll not repeat these mistakes again, not even repeated since these all happened. In the 1st, 2nd-3rd, and 5-6 answers, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Apology" title="Wikipedia:Apology">I admit my mistakes and apologize for these mistakes</a>. These mistakes include the first time I violated close paragraphing, then twice moved the page Hoysala Kingdom, and then violated the 3RR, which is unintentionally conduct in the content dispute on <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>. I have discussed for consensus on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Political_marriages_in_India" title="Talk:Political marriages in India">Talk page</a> for content dispute resolution; my last comment was also for the consensus, NXcrypto did not participate in any talk page discussion, filed this report, and he was directly involved in the content dispute at <a href="/wiki/Political_marriages_in_India" title="Political marriages in India">Political marriages in India</a>. </p><p>I'll request to the admin <a class="external text" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&action=history&offset=&limit=250">Please check the history of this particular page where ( from 10 October-November 2024)</a>, my first interaction with NXcrypto was on this page, and we both had a content dispute. Further, NXcrypto also had edit warnings and content disputes with other editors like <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamantine123" title="User:Adamantine123">Adamantine123</a>:</span> & <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:LukeEmily" title="User:LukeEmily">LukeEmily</a>:</span> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1250382349">[101]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1250694798">[102]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1250799602">[103]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256310343">[104]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=1256310696">[105]</a><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_marriages_in_India&diff=prev&oldid=12575341">[106]</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_(username)_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_(username)_4-Note_for_the_Admin:"><span id="Statement_by_.28username.29_4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_(username)_4-Note_for_the_Admin:"></span>Statement by (username)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_(username)_4-Note_for_the_Admin:"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Statement by (username)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Statement_by_LukeEmily" data-mw-thread-id="h-Statement_by_LukeEmily-Note_for_the_Admin:-20241126224500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Statement_by_LukeEmily-Note_for_the_Admin:-20241126224500"></span>Statement by LukeEmily<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Statement_by_LukeEmily-Note_for_the_Admin:-20241126224500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Statement by LukeEmily"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LukeEmily-20241126224500-Statement_by_LukeEmily"></span>Looking at their edit history, I think Rasteem is doing a good job across wikipedia. I have had very brief interactions with <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Rasteem" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rasteem">Rasteem</a>:</span>. Came across this page when I was posting a message on their talkpage and was surprised to find this complaint. I do not see any POV pushing for any caste by Rasteem. Most of the above items seem to be unintentional innocent mistakes - made by many senior editors - and I will go through each of them one by one. For example, Priyanka Khanna misidentification might just be because google showed up the incorrect search results. They are also polite, for example - [ <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&diff=prev&oldid=1256533002">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&diff=prev&oldid=1256533002</a> ] here they even apologised to <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Adamantine123" title="User:Adamantine123">Adamantine123</a>:</span> although it was not necessary. I don't think any ban is necessary.<a href="/wiki/User:LukeEmily" title="User:LukeEmily">LukeEmily</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LukeEmily" title="User talk:LukeEmily">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-LukeEmily-20241126224500-Statement_by_LukeEmily" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LukeEmily-20241126224500-Statement_by_LukeEmily"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LukeEmily-20241126224500-Statement_by_LukeEmily"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Result_concerning_Rasteem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Result_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125133600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Result_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125133600"></span>Result concerning Rasteem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Result_concerning_Rasteem-Rasteem-20241125133600"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Result concerning Rasteem"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125133600-Result_concerning_Rasteem"></span>This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.</i></dd></dl> <ul><li>Definitely seeing some caste shenanigans and edit warring, although the edit warring is fairly widespread. Interested in seeing the response. <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125133600-Result_concerning_Rasteem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125133600-Result_concerning_Rasteem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ScottishFinnishRadish-20241125133600-Result_concerning_Rasteem"></span></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Rasteem" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Rasteem"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Femke-20241127080000-Result_concerning_Rasteem"></span>Rasteem</a>: your response is now over 2,000 words. Per the instructions, can you please summarize this within 500 words and 20 diffs or ask for a (small!) extension to the word limit and summarize it to the new word limit. <a href="/wiki/User:Femke" title="User:Femke">—Femke 🐦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Femke" title="User talk:Femke">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#c-Femke-20241127080000-Result_concerning_Rasteem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Femke-20241127080000-Result_concerning_Rasteem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Femke-20241127080000-Result_concerning_Rasteem"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-3">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation book cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=MazdaWXQFuQC&q=Zafar+Khan+son+of+Sadharan&pg=RA1-PA131"><i>Indian History</i></a>. 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