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Drawing from archival state documents and other found materials, </span><em>11</em><span> is an experimental work of documentary poetics addressing the dictatorship and its aftermath in Chile starting from the military coup on September 11, 1973.</span></span></p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">September 11, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/between-memory-and-forgetting" title="Read the rest of Between memory and forgetting.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> <div class="views-row views-row-2 views-row-even"> <div id="node-17491" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/poetic-mulching">Poetic mulching</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">A dialogue between Rodrigo Toscano and V. Joshua Adams</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/rodrigo-toscano">Rodrigo Toscano</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/v-joshua-adams">V. Joshua Adams</a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/toscano-adams-banner.png" alt="" title="Rodrigo Toscano and V. Joshua Adams." class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /><figcaption>Rodrigo Toscano and V. Joshua Adams.</figcaption></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p><span>You see, sometime back, I came up with a zippy formula meant to clarify how we might arrive at “political poetry.” It goes like this: </span><em>if metapolitics is the seedbed of realpolitik, poetics is the mulch of metapolitics.</em><span> </span></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><span style="font-size: 14px;"> </span><strong>V. Joshua Adams</strong>: Let’s start at the beginning. The title of the upcoming 2025 book: <em>WHITMAN. CANNONBALL. PUEBLA.</em> It comes from the opening of <a href="https://tripwirejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/toscano_20.pdf">“Caras y Mascaras,”</a> which juxtaposes the names of poets and literary practices with those of military hardware and politico-historical places and events a total of 14 times, by way of tercets, like this:</p> <p style="padding-left: 90px;"><strong>Caras y Mascaras</strong></p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">August 23, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/poetic-mulching" title="Read the rest of Poetic mulching.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> <div class="views-row views-row-3 views-row-odd"> <div id="node-17486" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/paying-be-fooled">Paying to be fooled</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">Laura Mullen in conversation with Benjamin Morris</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/laura-mullen">Laura Mullen</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/benjamin-morris">Benjamin Morris</a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/Int_Mullen-Morris_ Banner.png" alt="From left to right: Laura Mullen, Mullen’s new book “EtC,” and Benjamin Morris." title="From left to right: Laura Mullen, Mullen’s new book “EtC,” and Benjamin Morris." class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /><figcaption>From left to right: Laura Mullen, Mullen’s new book “EtC,” and Benjamin Morris.</figcaption></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p><em>EtC</em> takes as its subject an iconic bovine mascot who has lived one of the longest and strangest lives of any corporate emblem in history — and whom Mullen here examines in a collection that serves equally as send-up, as critique, and as lament, but above all as trip through the capitalist funhouse: a trip in which, with the knives out and sharpened, we discover there is very little fun to be had after all. </p> </div> </div> </div> <p>Having recently returned to school as a mature student, once a week I drive from New Orleans, Louisiana, to Jackson, Mississippi on my way to campus, about a three-hour drive. Most of my commute takes place along Interstate 55, along which I often see a truck from one of the Sanderson Farms chicken plants in nearby Hammond, Louisiana, or McComb, Mississippi. These trucks are loaded up with thousands of live birds, their crowded cages stacked ten rows high and twenty rows deep, likely on their final journey ever taken in the open air. </p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">August 12, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/paying-be-fooled" title="Read the rest of Paying to be fooled.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> <div class="views-row views-row-4 views-row-even"> <div id="node-17478" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/to-undo-the-human">To undo the human</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">Kendra Sullivan in conversation with Louis Bury</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/kendra-sullivan">Kendra Sullivan</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/louis-bury">Louis Bury</a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/Int_Sullivan_Bury_Banner.png" alt="From left to right: Kendra Sullivan, Sullivan’s new book “Reps,” and Louis Bury" title="From left to right: Kendra Sullivan, Sullivan’s new book “Reps,” and Louis Bury." class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /><figcaption>From left to right: Kendra Sullivan, Sullivan’s new book “Reps,” and Louis Bury.</figcaption></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p><span>We spoke together on the occasion of her recent Ugly Duckling Presse book, <em>Reps</em>, which uses undisclosed constraints as carrying cases — safe deposit boxes — for the stories humans tell each other to make sense of their many capacities.</span><span></span></p> </div> </div> </div> <p>Kendra Sullivan operates in the vital tradition of poets who undertake DIY cultural work. She is the Director of the CUNY Graduate Center’s Center for Humanities, where she is responsible for initiatives such as <em>Lost & Found: The CUNY Poetics Archive Initiative</em> and NYC Climate Justice Hub. She co-founded the Sunview Luncheonette, a cooperative arts venue in Brooklyn, and is a member of Mare Liberum, an eco-arts collective.</p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">July 18, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/to-undo-the-human" title="Read the rest of To undo the human.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> <div class="views-row views-row-5 views-row-odd views-row-last"> <div id="node-17476" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/jaguar-in-the-box">The jaguar in the box</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">A conversation between Diego Báez and Jose-Luis Moctezuma</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/diego-b%C3%A1ez">Diego Báez</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/jose-luis-moctezuma">Jose-Luis Moctezuma </a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/interview.png" alt="" title="" class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p><span>After the event, Jose and I chatted briefly, but he had to jet off to class. So we decided to continue our conversation in a slightly more formal context. We corresponded via email on December 31, 2023 and through the first weeks of the new year, first discussing </span><em>Black Box Syndrome</em><span> and then </span><em>Yaguareté White.</em></p> </div> </div> </div> <p>In August of 2023, just as the Fall term commenced, poet and scholar Jose-Luis Moctezuma reached out to me about celebrating Latinx Heritage Month at Wilbur Wright College, where he teaches Literature and Composition in the English department. Jose invited me to read from my forthcoming debut poetry collection, <em>Yaguareté White</em>, which was published by University of Arizona Press in February. As a fellow faculty member at the City Colleges of Chicago, I didn’t want to miss an opportunity to spend time with a new group of students talking about poetry.</p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">June 25, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/jaguar-in-the-box" title="Read the rest of The jaguar in the box.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> </div> </div>  </div> </section> <aside id="secondary" class="column sidebar second"> <div class="region region-right"> <div id="block-views-interviews-block_4" class="block block-views region-odd odd region-count-1 count-1"> <h2 class="title">More interviews</h2> <div class="content"> <div class="view view-interviews view-id-interviews view-display-id-block_4 view-dom-id-2 view-interviews view-id-interviews view-display-id-block_4 view-dom-id-2"> <div class="view-content"> <div class="views-row views-row-1 views-row-odd views-row-first"> <div id="node-17440" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/crossing-points-contested-spaces">Crossing points, contested spaces</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">A conversation between Joseph Harrington and H. L. Hix</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/joseph-harrington">Joseph Harrington</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/h-l-hix">H L Hix</a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/hix-harrington-banner.png" alt="" title="" class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p><span>Joseph Harrington and H. L. Hix have perceived their work as being “in conversation” for quite some time, so the strength of their shared sense that Harrington’s recent </span><em>Disapparitions</em><span> and Hix’s </span><em>Moral Tales</em><span> were intent on </span><em>listening</em><span> in related ways led them to formalize their conversation. The result is the following inquiry into attention, attunement, genre, and other matters of writerly — and human — concern.</span></p> </div> </div> </div> <p>Joseph Harrington and H. L. Hix have perceived their work as being “in conversation” for quite some time, so the strength of their shared sense that Harrington’s recent <em>Disapparitions</em> and Hix’s <em>Moral Tales</em> were intent on <em>listening</em> in related ways led them to formalize their conversation. The result is the following inquiry into attention, attunement, genre, and other matters of writerly — and human — concern.</p> <p style="margin-bottom: -6px;"> </p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">April 30, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/crossing-points-contested-spaces" title="Read the rest of Crossing points, contested spaces.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> <div class="views-row views-row-2 views-row-even views-row-last"> <div id="node-17416" class="node node-type-interview node-teaser clearfix"> <h2 class="title"><a href="/interviews/piece-these-disjointed-images-together">Piece these disjointed images together</a></h2> <div class="content"> <h3 class="subtitle">Brandi George in conversation with Sandra Simonds</h3><div class="author-and-type-wrapper"><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/brandi-george">Brandi George</a></div><div class="author-and-type"><a href="/content/sandra-simonds">Sandra Simonds</a></div></div><div class="field field-type-filefield field-field-image-feature"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <figure><img src="https://jacket2.org/sites/jacket2.org/files/imagecache/wide_main_column/george-simonds-banner image.png" alt="Brandi George, George's new book "The Nameless," and Sandra Simonds." title="From left to right: Brandi George, George's new book "The Nameless," and Sandra Simonds." class="imagecache imagecache-wide_main_column imagecache-default imagecache-wide_main_column_default" /><figcaption>From left to right: Brandi George, George's new book "The Nameless," and Sandra Simonds.</figcaption></figure> </div> </div> </div> <div class="field field-type-text field-field-teaser-text"> <div class="field-items"> <div class="field-item odd"> <p>This interview with Brandi George was conducted by Sandra Simonds via email and on Zoom on November 12, 2023. The two discuss George's latest book, <em>The Nameless</em> (Kernpunkt Press, 2023).</p> </div> </div> </div> <p><em>The Nameless</em>: a memoir-in-verse (<a href="http://www.kernpunktpress.com/store/p38/nameless.html">http://www.kernpunktpress.com/store/p38/nameless.html</a>), is the winner of the Eyelands Book Award. Brandi’s work explores her struggle with mental illness, sexual assault, religious extremism, an exorcism, and the burning of her creative work when she was in her early teens. Through all of this, she has been guided and inspired by the power of poetry and artmaking.</p> </div><div class="meta"><span class="submitted">February 13, 2024</span></div> <ul class="links inline"><li class="node_read_more first last"><a href="/interviews/piece-these-disjointed-images-together" title="Read the rest of Piece these disjointed images together.">Read more</a></li> </ul></div>  </div> </div> </div>  </div> </div>  <div id="block-views-interviews-block_3" class="block block-views region-even even region-count-2 count-2"> <div class="content"> <div class="view view-interviews view-id-interviews view-display-id-block_3 h2-sidebar-marginbottom view-dom-id-3 view-interviews view-id-interviews view-display-id-block_3 view-dom-id-3"> <div class="view-header"> <div class="j2-index-sidebar-toc"> </div> </div> <div class="view-content"> <div class="views-row views-row-1 views-row-odd views-row-first"> <div class="views-field-body"> <div class="field-content"><a href="/view"><a 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