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font-style: italic; color: grey; line-height: 23px; } .tt-post { border: 0px solid #489bd4 !important; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0px 0 0 #eaeaea !important; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0px 0 0 #eaeaea !important; box-shadow: 0 0px 0 0 #eaeaea !important; } @media only screen and (min-width: 769px) { .relatedsingle{ height: 396px; } .h1, .h2, .h3, h1, h2, h3, .tt-title-text{ margin-top: 0px !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; } } #fkgUBk { display: none; } </style> <meta name="twitter:card" content="summary_large_image" /> <meta name="twitter:description" content="The EU is attempting to hold talks with some EV-makers outside of official channels, shaking “the foundation and mutual trust of the negotiations,” Beijing says" /> <meta name="twitter:title" content="China Says EU Using ‘Insincere Tactics’ to Hinder Tariff Talks" /> <meta name="twitter:site" content="@ATFinancial_" /> <meta name="twitter:image" content="https://www.asiafinancial.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/ed.jpg" /><script type="application/ld+json">{ "@context": "http:\/\/schema.org", "@type": "newsarticle", "inLanguage": "en", "url": "https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com", "articleBody": " \r\n\r\nLess than two weeks after members of the European Union voted to impose hefty tariffs on China-made cars, state media backed by Beijing has accused the bloc of using "insincere tactics" to subvert dialogue to prevent the new levies.\r\n\r\nThe EU was \u201cmaking unreasonable demands, not responding positively to sensible offers from the Chinese side and attempting to split up Chinese electric vehicle (EV) producers in negotiations,\u201d Beijing mouthpiece Global Times said on Wednesday, citing sources.\r\n\r\n<strong><a href="https:\/\/www.globaltimes.cn\/page\/202410\/1321329.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">GT claimed<\/a><\/strong> that while publicly claiming it was committed to ongoing negotiations with China, EU had \u201cshown sufficient sincerity in the actual talks.\u201d\r\n\r\n \r\n<h3>Also on AF: <a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/all-time-high-ev-sales-in-china-defy-slowdown-worry" target="_blank" rel="noopener">All-Time-High EV Sales in China Defy Slowdown Worry<\/a><\/h3>\r\n \r\n\r\nThe outlet said that a primary example of the EU\u2019s \u201cinsincerity\u201d was its decision to \u201cconduct separate negotiations with different EV makers\u201d, while turning down offers on minimum import prices from Chinese negotiators.\r\n\r\nLast week China's Ministry of Commerce <strong><a href="https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/business\/autos-transportation\/china-urges-eu-not-affect-ev-tariff-talks-with-separate-price-negotiations-2024-10-12\/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">claimed<\/a><\/strong> the EU was conducting separate talks\u00a0with Chinese EV-makers, without citing any evidence. It said there had been "relevant reports" on the issue.\r\n\r\nVarious manufacturers including European-owned companies in China have authorised the China Chamber of Commerce for Machinery and Electronics (CCCME) to propose a price commitment plan that represents the overall position of the industry, the commerce ministry said.\r\n\r\nBy negotiating with some EV-makers outside of the talks with CCCME the EU would \u201cshake the foundation and mutual trust of the negotiations\u201d, the ministry said.\r\n\r\nThat statement followed the EU\u2019s <strong><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/eu-rejects-chinas-proposal-for-30000-euro-minimum-ev-price" target="_blank" rel="noopener">rejection\u00a0of China\u2019s proposal<\/a><\/strong> to sell exported EVs in Europe at a minimum price of 30,000 euros ($32,000).\r\n\r\nGT\u2019s report on Wednesday took the ministry\u2019s accusations a step forward by claiming the EU\u2019s separate negotiations were \u201can attempt to sow division\u201d within the Chinese EV industry.\r\n\r\nThis is the second time Beijing has accused the EU of using its anti-subsidy measures to harm Chinese industry.\r\n\r\nIn June, Chinese state-backed media claimed the bloc was using its investigation into subsidies for the country\u2019s EV-makers as a means to \u201cspy on China\u2019s new energy vehicle technology.\u201d\r\n\r\n \r\n<h2>Tough road ahead<\/h2>\r\nMeanwhile, Beijing claims it has shown \u201cutmost sincerity\u201d to the negotiation process.\r\n\r\nChinese negotiators worked through national holidays and produced 27,500 pages of materials to engage in talks spanning 50 hours with the EU, GT claimed.\r\n\r\nOn Thursday, a commerce ministry spokesperson also said Beijing <strong><a href="https:\/\/www.globaltimes.cn\/page\/202410\/1321373.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">had invited the EU's technical team to China<\/a><\/strong> to continue face-to-face consultations\u00a0on the tariffs that are set to come into force starting next month.\r\n\r\nThose efforts, however, may not necessarily be fruitful.\r\n\r\nEarly this week, a senior EU official\u00a0<strong><a href="https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/business\/autos-transportation\/hard-see-chinese-ev-price-deal-by-end-october-says-eu-official-2024-10-14\/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">told Reuters<\/a><\/strong> that the negotiations pose a "formidable challenge" as offers need to be adequate and enforceable.\r\n\r\n\u201cIt seems very, very difficult to reach an agreement by the end of October,\u201d the official said.\r\n\r\nAny solution "needs to be fully enforceable, and it needs to be monitored very, very closely, and the risk of circumventing undertakings need to be reduced significantly," the official added.\r\n\r\nNegotiations\u00a0could extend\u00a0beyond October, but the process would remain incredibly complex.\r\n\r\nSpeaking to the challenge European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen <strong><a href="https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/business\/autos-transportation\/eu-wants-level-playing-field-still-negotiating-with-china-car-tariffs-2024-10-14\/#:~:text=BERLIN%2C%20Oct%2014%20(Reuters),der%20Leyen%20said%20on%20Monday." target="_blank" rel="noopener">explained<\/a><\/strong> on Monday the many questions that negotiators would need to answer to reach a solution.\r\n\r\n"What could be the compensation that is offered instead of countervailing duties, for example? And there is the question of price commitments that are on the table, investments in Europe," von der Leyen said.\r\n\r\n"These are all questions that are on the table, as always in negotiations. Everything has only been negotiated when the last piece has been negotiated."\r\n\r\nThe Commission has maintained that the responsibility for finding a solution will remain on China.\r\n\r\n \r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li>Vishakha Saxena, with Reuters<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n \r\n<h3>Also read:<\/h3>\r\n<h4><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/tariffs-on-chinese-evs-will-speed-up-eu-plant-closures-tavares" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tariffs on Chinese EVs Will Speed up EU Plant Closures: Tavares<\/a><\/h4>\r\n<h4><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/eu-probe-into-russian-plywood-exported-from-china-ft" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EU Warns \u2018China Must Adapt\u2019 to Resolve Trade Disputes<\/a><\/h4>\r\n<h4 class="reports-big-head"><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/eu-backs-large-tariffs-on-chinese-evs-but-talks-will-continue" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EU Backs Large Tariffs on Chinese EVs But Talks Will Continue<\/a><\/h4>\r\n<h4><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/chinese-carmakers-call-for-25-retaliatory-tariffs-on-eu-cars" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chinese Carmakers Call For 25% Retaliatory Tariffs on EU Cars<\/a><\/h4>\r\n<h4><a href="https:\/\/www.asiafinancial.com\/stellantis-ceo-calls-china-ev-tariffs-a-trap-he-may-be-right" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stellantis CEO Calls China EV Tariffs a \u2018Trap\u2019. 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Photo: Reuters </figcaption> </figure> </div> <div class="content"> <p> </p> <p>Less than two weeks after members of the European Union voted to impose hefty tariffs on China-made cars, state media backed by Beijing has accused the bloc of using “insincere tactics” to subvert dialogue to prevent the new levies.</p> <p>The EU was “making unreasonable demands, not responding positively to sensible offers from the Chinese side and attempting to split up Chinese electric vehicle (EV) producers in negotiations,” Beijing mouthpiece Global Times said on Wednesday, citing sources.</p> <p><strong><a href="https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202410/1321329.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">GT claimed</a></strong> that while publicly claiming it was committed to ongoing negotiations with China, EU had “shown sufficient sincerity in the actual talks.”</p> <p> </p> <h3>Also on AF: <a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/all-time-high-ev-sales-in-china-defy-slowdown-worry" target="_blank" rel="noopener">All-Time-High EV Sales in China Defy Slowdown Worry</a></h3> <p> </p> <p>The outlet said that a primary example of the EU’s “insincerity” was its decision to “conduct separate negotiations with different EV makers”, while turning down offers on minimum import prices from Chinese negotiators.</p> <p>Last week China’s Ministry of Commerce <strong><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/china-urges-eu-not-affect-ev-tariff-talks-with-separate-price-negotiations-2024-10-12/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">claimed</a></strong> the EU was conducting separate talks with Chinese EV-makers, without citing any evidence. It said there had been “relevant reports” on the issue.</p> <p>Various manufacturers including European-owned companies in China have authorised the China Chamber of Commerce for Machinery and Electronics (CCCME) to propose a price commitment plan that represents the overall position of the industry, the commerce ministry said.</p> <p>By negotiating with some EV-makers outside of the talks with CCCME the EU would “shake the foundation and mutual trust of the negotiations”, the ministry said.</p> <p>That statement followed the EU’s <strong><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/eu-rejects-chinas-proposal-for-30000-euro-minimum-ev-price" target="_blank" rel="noopener">rejection of China’s proposal</a></strong> to sell exported EVs in Europe at a minimum price of 30,000 euros ($32,000).</p> <p>GT’s report on Wednesday took the ministry’s accusations a step forward by claiming the EU’s separate negotiations were “an attempt to sow division” within the Chinese EV industry.</p> <p>This is the second time Beijing has accused the EU of using its anti-subsidy measures to harm Chinese industry.</p> <p>In June, Chinese state-backed media claimed the bloc was using its investigation into subsidies for the country’s EV-makers as a means to “spy on China’s new energy vehicle technology.”</p> <p> </p> <h2>Tough road ahead</h2> <p>Meanwhile, Beijing claims it has shown “utmost sincerity” to the negotiation process.</p> <p>Chinese negotiators worked through national holidays and produced 27,500 pages of materials to engage in talks spanning 50 hours with the EU, GT claimed.</p> <p>On Thursday, a commerce ministry spokesperson also said Beijing <strong><a href="https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202410/1321373.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener">had invited the EU’s technical team to China</a></strong> to continue face-to-face consultations on the tariffs that are set to come into force starting next month.</p> <p>Those efforts, however, may not necessarily be fruitful.</p> <p>Early this week, a senior EU official <strong><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/hard-see-chinese-ev-price-deal-by-end-october-says-eu-official-2024-10-14/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">told Reuters</a></strong> that the negotiations pose a “formidable challenge” as offers need to be adequate and enforceable.</p> <p>“It seems very, very difficult to reach an agreement by the end of October,” the official said.</p> <p>Any solution “needs to be fully enforceable, and it needs to be monitored very, very closely, and the risk of circumventing undertakings need to be reduced significantly,” the official added.</p> <p>Negotiations could extend beyond October, but the process would remain incredibly complex.</p> <p>Speaking to the challenge European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen <strong><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-wants-level-playing-field-still-negotiating-with-china-car-tariffs-2024-10-14/#:~:text=BERLIN%2C%20Oct%2014%20(Reuters),der%20Leyen%20said%20on%20Monday." target="_blank" rel="noopener">explained</a></strong> on Monday the many questions that negotiators would need to answer to reach a solution.</p> <p>“What could be the compensation that is offered instead of countervailing duties, for example? And there is the question of price commitments that are on the table, investments in Europe,” von der Leyen said.</p> <p>“These are all questions that are on the table, as always in negotiations. Everything has only been negotiated when the last piece has been negotiated.”</p> <p>The Commission has maintained that the responsibility for finding a solution will remain on China.</p> <p> </p> <ul> <li>Vishakha Saxena, with Reuters</li> </ul> <p> </p> <h3>Also read:</h3> <h4><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/tariffs-on-chinese-evs-will-speed-up-eu-plant-closures-tavares" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tariffs on Chinese EVs Will Speed up EU Plant Closures: Tavares</a></h4> <h4><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/eu-probe-into-russian-plywood-exported-from-china-ft" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EU Warns ‘China Must Adapt’ to Resolve Trade Disputes</a></h4> <h4 class="reports-big-head"><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/eu-backs-large-tariffs-on-chinese-evs-but-talks-will-continue" target="_blank" rel="noopener">EU Backs Large Tariffs on Chinese EVs But Talks Will Continue</a></h4> <h4><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/chinese-carmakers-call-for-25-retaliatory-tariffs-on-eu-cars" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Chinese Carmakers Call For 25% Retaliatory Tariffs on EU Cars</a></h4> <h4><a href="https://www.asiafinancial.com/stellantis-ceo-calls-china-ev-tariffs-a-trap-he-may-be-right" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stellantis CEO Calls China EV Tariffs a ‘Trap’. 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