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">MOBILE TECHNOLOGY</a> <h1 id="ar_title">iPod touch 5G vs. iPod touch 4G</h1> <div class="summary_details_left"> <p>By <a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/author/will-shanklin/" rel="author">Will Shanklin</a></p> <p><em>October 10, 2012</em></p> </div> <div class="summary_details_right"> <div class="has_comments"><a href="ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g#comments">11 Comments</a></div> <div class="has_pictures"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures">11 Pictures</a></div> </div> </div> <div id="article_share_rail"> <div class="as_button"><div class="fb-like" data-href="http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/" data-send="false" data-layout="box_count" data-show-faces="false"></div><script type="text/javascript">_ga.trackFacebook();</script></div> <div class="as_button"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609/http://twitter.com/share" class="twitter-share-button" data-count="vertical" data-via="gizmag">Tweet</a></div> <div class="as_button"><div class="g-plusone" data-size="tall" data-href="http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/"></div></div> <div class="as_button"><iframe style="overflow: hidden; 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adstage = '2'; google_ad_client = 'pub-1607124478120364'; google_ad_output = 'js'; google_ad_channel = '5541773889+8761738140+8561185782+'; google_max_num_ads = '4'; google_skip = google_adnum; google_feedback = 'on'; google_ad_type = 'text'; google_image_size = '300x250'; //--> </script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609js_/http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js"></script> <p>The iPod touch lives on. When Apple neglected to update its oddball iOS device in 2011, some speculated that the end was near. But now the touch has been updated to its 5th generation, and life goes on for the iPhone without a phone. Apple opted to keep the older 4th generation iPod touch on the market, next to its younger sibling. How do the two stack up against one another? Let's take a look …</p> <ul id="gallery_images"> <li><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#1" class="image"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_tn/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-0.jpg" title="Apple is advertising similar uptimes in the two versions" alt="Apple is advertising similar uptimes in the two versions"/></a></li> <li><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#2" class="image"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_tn/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-1.jpg" title="Though it isn't exactly cutting-edge, the rear camera in the new model is a huge improveme..." alt="Though it isn't exactly cutting-edge, the rear camera in the new model is a huge improveme..."/></a></li> <li><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#3" class="image"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_tn/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-2.jpg" title="The A5 in the 5G touch is the one found in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S" alt="The A5 in the 5G touch is the one found in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S"/></a></li> <li><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#4" class="image"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_tn/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-3.jpg" title="This is the most significant iPod touch redesign since its inception in 2007" alt="This is the most significant iPod touch redesign since its inception in 2007"/></a></li> <li id="view_all"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures" class="blue">View all<br/></a></li> </ul> <div class="clear_both"></div> <h2>Dimensions</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#4" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-3.jpg" width="530" alt="This is the most significant iPod touch redesign since its inception in 2007"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>This is the most significant iPod touch redesign since its inception in 2007</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Apart from getting thinner, the iPod touch's physical design didn't change much for its first four generations. The iPod touch 5G gets a huge redesign, however. Its longer build mirrors the iPhone 5's evolution, and makes room for its obtuse 16:9 display.</p> <p>Both devices are ridiculously thin, but the new 5G iPod touch is so svelte it's practically non-existent. It will disappear in your pocket.</p> <h2>Weight</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#9" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-9.jpg" width="530" alt="Both devices are light, but the new model is freakishly so"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Both devices are light, but the new model is freakishly so</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Speaking of insane measurements, picking up the 5th gen. touch will feel like nothing.</p> <p>To lend some perspective, it weighs roughly the same as 18 sheets of notebook paper. Paper can be written on and folded into an airplane; the iPod touch 5G plays <em>Infinity Blade</em>.</p> <h2>Display</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#5" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-4.jpg" width="530" alt="Though the pixel density stays the same, everything else about the display in the 5G is be..."/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Though the pixel density stays the same, everything else about the display in the 5G is better</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>The 5G iPod touch's display is a huge upgrade. Though the 4G touch shared the same resolution as the iPhone 4/4S, it was made of cheaper materials, with inferior viewing angles.</p> <p>Not only does the 5G iPod touch get a longer four-inch screen, but it's the exact same display as the one in the iPhone 5. That's <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/iphone-5-review/24240/" target="_blank">a good thing</a>.</p> <h2>Processor</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#3" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-2.jpg" width="530" alt="The A5 in the 5G touch is the one found in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>The A5 in the 5G touch is the one found in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>The 5th generation model is the first iPod touch to rock a dual-core processor. Though it's not in the same class as the zippy A6 found in the iPhone 5, the A5 was fast enough to power the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S. It will make the 5G touch fast and powerful enough for most uses.</p> <p>The A4 in the older touch is growing long in the tooth. It's the chip that was in 2010's iPhone 4 and original iPad, so it's a bit slow by today's (rapidly evolving) standards.</p> <h2>RAM</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#8" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-7.jpg" width="530" alt="512MB isn't a huge amount of RAM, but it's double what you'll find in the 4G version"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>512MB isn't a huge amount of RAM, but it's double what you'll find in the 4G version</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>The new iPod touch also sees its RAM doubled, coming in at 512 MB. That isn't a huge number, but – when combined with the dual-core chip and the lean, efficient iOS – the 5G touch should be fairly quick.</p> <h2>Storage</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#11" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-12.jpg" width="530" alt="Apple offers a healthy amount of storage for both models"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Apple offers a healthy amount of storage for both models</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Until recently, the 4th gen. iPod touch was also available in the same quantities as the new version (along with an 8GB model), but Apple cut down on flash memory for the discounted 2012 release. That leaves it coming in 16GB and 32GB models, with the new model available in 32GB and 64GB options.</p> <h2>Wireless</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#10" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-10.jpg" width="530" alt="No cellular data here"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>No cellular data here</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Nothing to see here. The very definition of an iPod touch is that it's <em>almost</em> an iPhone. Its biggest missing piece is cellular connectivity, as these are both Wi-Fi only affairs.</p> <h2>Cameras</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#2" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-1.jpg" width="530" alt="Though it isn't exactly cutting-edge, the rear camera in the new model is a huge improveme..."/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Though it isn't exactly cutting-edge, the rear camera in the new model is a huge improvement</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Though it still isn't mind-blowing, the camera in the 5G iPod touch represents a massive upgrade over its predecessor. For reference, the 4G touch's camera is roughly – if not exactly – the same as the one in the iPad 2. The 5G touch's camera is roughly – if not exactly – the same as the ones in the iPhone 4 and 3rd gen. iPad.</p> <h2>Battery</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#1" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-0.jpg" width="530" alt="Apple is advertising similar uptimes in the two versions"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Apple is advertising similar uptimes in the two versions</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>Estimated battery times are roughly equal, with the new model supposedly getting an extra hour of video playing. Until we get our hands on the new touch, we're going by Apple's projections.</p> <h2>Intangibles</h2> <div style="width: 530px; height: 298px; margin-bottom: 1px;" class="article_img"><a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-5g-vs-ipod-touch-4g/24503/pictures#7" target="_blank"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609im_/http://images.gizmag.com/inline/ipod-touch-5g-vs-4g-6.jpg" width="530" alt="Siri and colors, or some extra cash? (paint splatter: Shutterstock, pennies: Shutterstock)"/></a></div><div class="inline_caption" style="width: 530px; padding: 0;"><p>Siri and colors, or some extra cash? (paint splatter: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609/http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-92662327/stock-vector-paint-splat.html" target="_blank">Shutterstock</a>, pennies: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609/http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=pennies&search_group=#id=58017463&src=p-107614478" target="_blank">Shutterstock</a>)</p></div><div class="clear_both"></div> <p>The iPod touch 5G is the fourth Apple device to get Siri (after the iPhone 4S, New iPad, and iPhone 5). Though the virtual assistant has been mocked for its obvious limitations, it still comes in handy for dictating messages, booking a restaurant table, or checking sports scores. Keep in mind, though, that you'll need to be connected to a Wi-Fi network in order to use Siri.</p> <p>Another potential perk for the 5th generation update is that it comes in colors. Apart from the black and slate version, the 5G touch will have a white front and the color of your choice on the back.</p> <p>The only reason to choose the older 4G touch over the 5G version is its cost. It will set you back US$199 for the 16 GB version, compared to $299 for the 32 GB 5G model.</p> <h2>Summing Up</h2> <p>So which do you choose? Do you splurge for the latest and greatest, or save a bit on the older model? Saving $100 is nice, but remember that the newer iPod touch gives you a larger – much better – display, improved performance, and a much improved camera. 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He lives in New Mexico with his wonderful wife, Jess. <a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/author/will-shanklin/">All articles by Will Shanklin</a> <br class="clear_both"> </div> <!-- Tags --> <div id="tags"> <span class="title">Tags</span> <div class="dotsontop"> <ul> <li>» <a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/tag/apple/" rel="tag">Apple</a></li> <li>» <a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/tag/ipod+touch/" rel="tag">iPod touch</a></li> <li>» <a href="/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/tag/product-comparison/" rel="tag">Product Comparison</a></li> </ul> <div class="clear_both"></div> </div> </div> <div id="bing_unit"><!-- bing_unit --></div> <!-- Comments --> <span class="title" id="comments">11 Comments</span> <div class="dotsontop"> <div id="comment-168055" class="a_comment"> <p>I bought my wife an iTouch a few years ago. In spite of several attempts to get existing MP3 files (made from albums we own) onto it, I was never able to do so. The interface must be just TOO intuitive I guess. :-| </p> <p>The only way she managed to get it to play songs was by buying songs on iTunes, songs we'd already bought on CDs! </p> <p>After about a year, it stopped working altogether so she now uses a much cheaper, higher capacity (Samsung) MP3 player that simply looks like a hard drive if you plug it into a PC. It was 3 years old when she started using the Samsung and now it's 6 years old and still going strong. </p> <p>That's about it for me and Apple. </p> <span class="name">warren52nz</span><br> <span class="date"> 11th October, 2012 @ 01:34 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-168070" class="a_comment"> <p>@warren52nz. That's strange because the iPod touch has been capable of playing mp3's since at least the 2nd gen. I have a 2G and never had a problem with mp3's. It may have had to do with setting iTunes to manually manage your music as opposed to letting iTunes do it automatically...but I could be wrong. Mp3's no problem however. </p> <span class="name">twistyturns</span><br> <span class="date"> 11th October, 2012 @ 02:19 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-168088" class="a_comment"> <p>@warren52nz you probably tried to drag and drop .mp3 files into the itouch device. you have to import the .mp3 files into itunes then sync it. I have over 800 songs I didn't purchase from iTunes on my ipod touch, no problems. don't blame apple, blame yourself. </p> <span class="name">Bill Laurencki</span><br> <span class="date"> 11th October, 2012 @ 05:30 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-168112" class="a_comment"> <p>The PDA is dead! Long live the iPDA! </p> <p></p> <p>The Personal Digital Assistant never "died", Apple just changed its name. </p> <span class="name">Gregg Eshelman</span><br> <span class="date"> 11th October, 2012 @ 09:41 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-168295" class="a_comment"> <p>Will, thank you for taking the time to compare these two devices. I searched for any details about the connector on the bottom. You didn't say anything about it. The iPhone 5 has the new "lightning" connector. Does the iPod5 have the old or new lightning connector? Thanks! </p> <p></p> <p>Ed. - James, the 5th-gen iPod touch (and 7th-gen iPod nano) does indeed sport the new Lightning connector. See here for more details: <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130116011609/http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-nano-update/24119/">http://www.gizmag.com/ipod-touch-nano-update/24119/</a> </p> <span class="name">James Kelly</span><br> <span class="date"> 12th October, 2012 @ 06:34 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-170104" class="a_comment"> <p>I use my 4G as a professional quality multi-track recorder with the awesome GuitarJack audio interface and MultiTrack DAW app. That's rules out on the 5G. Big advance. I'm sure that the only reason the 4G lives on is the venerable dock connector which too many of us depend on. </p> <p></p> <p>The new connector is too small to ever allow attached devices like the GuitarJack without an intervening cable. Fail. Most existing docks won't properly hold the new device even with a Fool Adapter which, it is reported, requires the attached device to have a license. </p> <p></p> <p>Site foot, shoot. </p> <span class="name">DonGateley</span><br> <span class="date"> 19th October, 2012 @ 07:55 pm PDT</span> </div> <div id="comment-184141" class="a_comment"> <p>Very thorough and helpful comparison. Thanks so much! But there are two additional costs to keep in mind if upgrading to 5G: a new $20-$30 case to accommodate the new dimensions, plus the $30 cable needed to attach the new Lightening connector to an existing dock (or else spring for a new dock as well). So the after tax difference in price is roughly $175, not $100 (plus the cost of a new dock if you get one). </p> <span class="name">DSL</span><br> <span class="date"> 13th December, 2012 @ 12:45 pm PST</span> </div> <div id="comment-184765" class="a_comment"> <p>I bought iPod touch 4G as cost here in Australia for iPod Touch 5G is $329 inc GST for 32 GB (can be had from nearby electronics store for slightly less). Although, there are lot of improvements but to be honest, it is quite close to Android 7" Tablets pricing & of course iPad Mini & although they are not quite portable as iPod touch but there is a feeling that one has wasted money on iPod touch when for the similar price you could have something bigger & better & buy a iPod Shuffle or nano instead. (I am assuming that most people have limited funds & are resourceful about their money). I got iPod Touch 4G (16GB) for $185 (inc GST) from The Good Guys which I felt was real value for money. </p> <p></p> <p>Secondly, in person I still found iPod 4G more classy (we just have choice of Black or White with Steel back but it looks awesome) whereas the new ones I felt were bit jarring (Blue looked OK, Gray & Silver were OK too but I felt they were not as good looking as the older model). Just my personal opinion though. </p> <p></p> <p>Thirdly, if one already has iPhone 5 or iPad 3 or 4 (or saving moolah for them), why spend on iPod Touch 5G when you can still get a decent experience out of iPod Touch 4G. Older chip be damned, it is music player first & foremost, all other niceties are just extra bonuses. & A4 is sufficiently powered for that. For bigger & better games, I would rather play them on tablet. The only real advantage that I found was bigger screen size in the new Gen. But to be honest after being spoiled by big glorious screens of Android phones, I find 4" screen size puny anyway. Bit less screen size of 4th wasn't a deal-breaker for me. </p> <span class="name">Him Rekhi</span><br> <span class="date"> 16th December, 2012 @ 07:45 pm PST</span> </div> <div id="comment-184771" class="a_comment"> <p>I didn't mention additional cost associated with new lightning connector as I was already discussed above but when you factor in things like more widely available accessories still supporting older connection & are obviously cheaper, then the difference becomes even more glaring. or just spring $30-35 for adapter but still in some cases like DonGately said above, it just won't be the best solution. </p> <p></p> <p>So, I saved $144 (Diff in price between 4G & 5G - altough 4G is just 16 GB but for me it is plenty) & saved another $35 on adapter. Total = $179 & it is a lot of money. </p> <p></p> <p>Cheers </p> <span class="name">Him Rekhi</span><br> <span class="date"> 16th December, 2012 @ 07:57 pm PST</span> </div> <div id="comment-185449" class="a_comment"> <p>@Him Rekhi: agreed; DonGately made a good point. When they changed the connector the pin-outs change so all previous devices that use to work, are now 'if they work'. This same deal happened when I switched from iPod classic to the iTouch, lost all my devices; no FM, no analog audio out thru dock, etc. That kind of thing is what tic's me off. I would still say (an validate this as being an audio engineer); the iPod may be the only Apple product I own but 9 out of 10 audio engineers own iPods (guess why). </p> <span class="name">bikeamtn</span><br> <span class="date"> 19th December, 2012 @ 01:44 pm PST</span> </div> <div id="comment-187420" class="a_comment"> <p>I upgraded from my 3g iPod Touch to the 5g model. The reasons were </p> <p>- camera, and that's a big improvement from not having one </p> <p>- better screen </p> <p>- up to date processor, as my old iPod Touch was becoming fairly unresponsive </p> <p>Having used it a bit, the number of new and upgraded features is a pleasant surprise. </p> <p>I don't have any dock issues, except needing a few extra sync cables, so the lightening connector is a non-issue. I'm a little surprised about the grumbling about the connector, but in any case in two years it will be hard to find accessories that use the old connector. I like that I just plug it in, and dont have to think about the orientation. 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