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line-height: 20px;">Alberto Savoia and </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px;">Patrick Copeland (<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/copelandpatrick">@copelandpatrick</a>). The article, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Entrepreneurial Innovation at Google, explores some of the ideas we use to encourage engineers to well, innovate. For a limited time you can see a digital version of the article on </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Computing Now – see </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><a href="http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank">http://www.computer.org/<wbr></wbr>portal/web/computingnow</a>.</span></span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /> </span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Enjoy,</span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Alberto & Pat</span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">The April 2011 issue of Computer, </span>the flagship publication of the IEEE Computer Society,<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"> features a cover article written by </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px;">Alberto Savoia and </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px;">Patrick Copeland (<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/copelandpatrick">@copelandpatrick</a>). The article, </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Entrepreneurial Innovation at Google, explores some of the ideas we use to encourage engineers to well, innovate. For a limited time you can see a digital version of the article on </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Computing Now – see </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><a href="http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank">http://www.computer.org/<wbr></wbr>portal/web/computingnow</a>.</span></span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br /> </span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Enjoy,</span><br /> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Alberto & Pat</span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Entrepreneurial Innovation at Google&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/04/entrepreneurial-innovation-at-google.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/04/entrepreneurial-innovation-at-google.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/04/entrepreneurial-innovation-at-google.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>No comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/04/entrepreneurial-innovation-at-google.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='7011861055457479213' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/were-back-live-on-twitter_31.html' itemprop='url' title='We're back live on twitter'> We're back live on twitter </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Thursday, March 31, 2011 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> For our followers on twitter, we didn't realize our feed we broken until today! Shame, lots of good posts recently. Come check them out. <a href="http://twitter.com/googletesting">@googletesting</a> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> For our followers on twitter, we didn't realize our feed we broken until today! Shame, lots of good posts recently. Come check them out. <a href="http://twitter.com/googletesting">@googletesting</a> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:We're back live on twitter&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/were-back-live-on-twitter_31.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/were-back-live-on-twitter_31.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/were-back-live-on-twitter_31.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>1 comment</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/were-back-live-on-twitter_31.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='3434061794397340866' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/innovation-at-google.html' itemprop='url' title='Innovation at Google'> Innovation at Google </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Tuesday, March 22, 2011 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <div><span class="Apple-style-span">by Patrick Copeland</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Google Innovation and the Pretotyping Manifesto*: I had the pleasure of keynoting at the sold out San Francisco and London QCon conferences. Combined about 1300 people attended. They recently published the video and I'm including it here with some reviews. Enjoy!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><a href="http://www.infoq.com/presentations/QCon-Keynote-Innovation-at-Google">The slides and video</a>.<br /> </span></span><br /> <div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Reviews and commentary from attendees:</span></div><div><a href="http://blog.rodger-brown.com/2011/03/qcon-2011-london-day-two.html"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://blog.rodger-brown.com/2011/03/qcon-2011-london-day-two.html</span></a></div><div><a href="http://alblue.bandlem.com/2011/03/qcon-day-2.html"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://alblue.bandlem.com/2011/03/qcon-day-2.html</span></a></div><div><a href="http://blogg.altran.se/cis/2011/03/12/qcon-2011-second-day-first-half/"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://blogg.altran.se/cis/2011/03/12/qcon-2011-second-day-first-half/</span></a></div><div><a href="http://orange-coding.net/?p=23"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://orange-coding.net/?p=23</span></a></div><div><a href="http://craignicol.wordpress.com/"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://craignicol.wordpress.com/</span></a></div><div><a href="http://tweetmeme.com/story/4236295014/infoq-qcon-keynote-innovation-at-google"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://tweetmeme.com/story/4236295014/infoq-qcon-keynote-innovation-at-google</span></a></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">*not your typical testing post, but once you see the talk you'll understand why we think testing and innovation go hand in hand. </span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <div><span class="Apple-style-span">by Patrick Copeland</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Google Innovation and the Pretotyping Manifesto*: I had the pleasure of keynoting at the sold out San Francisco and London QCon conferences. Combined about 1300 people attended. They recently published the video and I'm including it here with some reviews. Enjoy!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><a href="http://www.infoq.com/presentations/QCon-Keynote-Innovation-at-Google">The slides and video</a>.<br /> </span></span><br /> <div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Reviews and commentary from attendees:</span></div><div><a href="http://blog.rodger-brown.com/2011/03/qcon-2011-london-day-two.html"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://blog.rodger-brown.com/2011/03/qcon-2011-london-day-two.html</span></a></div><div><a href="http://alblue.bandlem.com/2011/03/qcon-day-2.html"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://alblue.bandlem.com/2011/03/qcon-day-2.html</span></a></div><div><a href="http://blogg.altran.se/cis/2011/03/12/qcon-2011-second-day-first-half/"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://blogg.altran.se/cis/2011/03/12/qcon-2011-second-day-first-half/</span></a></div><div><a href="http://orange-coding.net/?p=23"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://orange-coding.net/?p=23</span></a></div><div><a href="http://craignicol.wordpress.com/"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://craignicol.wordpress.com/</span></a></div><div><a href="http://tweetmeme.com/story/4236295014/infoq-qcon-keynote-innovation-at-google"><span class="Apple-style-span">http://tweetmeme.com/story/4236295014/infoq-qcon-keynote-innovation-at-google</span></a></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">*not your typical testing post, but once you see the talk you'll understand why we think testing and innovation go hand in hand. </span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Innovation at Google&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/innovation-at-google.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/innovation-at-google.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/innovation-at-google.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>1 comment</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/03/innovation-at-google.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='9102019570571849085' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/02/who-reads-this-blog.html' itemprop='url' title='Who reads this blog?'> Who reads this blog? </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Thursday, February 17, 2011 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <div style="text-align: left;">By Patrick Copeland</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /> </div><div style="text-align: left;">Just considering last year...</div><div style="text-align: left;"><ul><li>This blog was read in 181 countries/territories. </li> <li>20% of visitors came to the site at least 4 times.</li> <li>About 50% of the visits came from the United States, India, United Kingdom, Brazil, Canada, and Germany. </li> <li>Within the US, all states are represented, with a majority of visits coming from the significant technology centers. </li> <li>Top 10 world wide cities visiting (outside of the Bay Area): London, Bangalore, New York, Sao Paulo, Chennai, Hyderabad, Tokyo, Redmond, Seoul, Moscow. </li> <li>The average visitors stay about two minutes (enough time to read the post). Although, for some reason people in Switzerland stayed for 12 minutes on average and looked at twice as many pages. </li> <li>We get numerous visits from Central Asia and Melanesia, but the time on site is very small, which indicates from use of bots. As a matter of fact, 30% of the visits are flagged as search engine traffic. </li> <li>The <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2010/07/code-coverage-goal-80-and-no-less.html">highest read single post</a> was written by Alberto Savoia with 39,778 visits. Followed in (a distant) second place by a <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html">post I wrote</a>. BTW, James' <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-google-tests-software-part-three.html">recent posts</a> are really catching fire and I think Alberto could be unseated in 2011. </li> </ul><div>Below is the view of the traffic by continent...</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5574733732577947154" src="//1.bp.blogspot.com/-dy01c8d29qw/TV1uyyeyLhI/AAAAAAAAArc/oqO_lBmi1es/s400/Picture2.png" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 345px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 600px;"></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"><br /> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;">Thanks for your visits and we welcome your comments.</div><div><br /> </div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <div style="text-align: left;">By Patrick Copeland</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /> </div><div style="text-align: left;">Just considering last year...</div><div style="text-align: left;"><ul><li>This blog was read in 181 countries/territories. </li> <li>20% of visitors came to the site at least 4 times.</li> <li>About 50% of the visits came from the United States, India, United Kingdom, Brazil, Canada, and Germany. </li> <li>Within the US, all states are represented, with a majority of visits coming from the significant technology centers. </li> <li>Top 10 world wide cities visiting (outside of the Bay Area): London, Bangalore, New York, Sao Paulo, Chennai, Hyderabad, Tokyo, Redmond, Seoul, Moscow. </li> <li>The average visitors stay about two minutes (enough time to read the post). Although, for some reason people in Switzerland stayed for 12 minutes on average and looked at twice as many pages. </li> <li>We get numerous visits from Central Asia and Melanesia, but the time on site is very small, which indicates from use of bots. As a matter of fact, 30% of the visits are flagged as search engine traffic. </li> <li>The <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2010/07/code-coverage-goal-80-and-no-less.html">highest read single post</a> was written by Alberto Savoia with 39,778 visits. Followed in (a distant) second place by a <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html">post I wrote</a>. BTW, James' <a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-google-tests-software-part-three.html">recent posts</a> are really catching fire and I think Alberto could be unseated in 2011. </li> </ul><div>Below is the view of the traffic by continent...</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"><img alt="" border="0" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5574733732577947154" src="//1.bp.blogspot.com/-dy01c8d29qw/TV1uyyeyLhI/AAAAAAAAArc/oqO_lBmi1es/s400/Picture2.png" style="cursor: pointer; display: block; height: 345px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center; width: 600px;"></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; color: #0000ee;"><br /> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;">Thanks for your visits and we welcome your comments.</div><div><br /> </div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Who reads this blog?&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/02/who-reads-this-blog.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/02/who-reads-this-blog.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/02/who-reads-this-blog.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>6 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/02/who-reads-this-blog.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='2338504732622610439' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/01/google-innovation-and-pretotyping.html' itemprop='url' title='Google Innovation and The Pretotyping Manifesto'> Google Innovation and The Pretotyping Manifesto </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Thursday, January 20, 2011 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I'll be speaking very soon about innovation and The Pretotyping Manifesto (note: not prototyping). It's a concept that works well for any type of engineering, testing, or idea. Here's a brief preview...</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br /> </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">The talk starts off by discussing the odds against innovators and how the deck is stacked against you from the start. Most engineers begin with trying to come up with THE killer idea. But you quickly realize that ideas are cheap. We all believe that our own ideas are good. As a matter of fact, most of us LOVE our own ideas to the point where it clouds our judgement. In parallel, there is a strong desire to jump in and build something after a great idea has been identified. Sometimes swarms of well intentioned people join in and "help." Quickly innovators can find themselves in the weeds or feeling disconnected from their original dream. So, what can be done? The idea is to use pretotyping and to focus on techniques that allow you to: </span><span style="border-collapse: collapse;">Build the right it vs. Build it right.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span">Last time I did this talk, it was called: "<span style="line-height: 16px;"><a href="http://www.infoq.com/articles/QCon-San-Francisco-2010#__26">the best keynote of any tech conference ever!</a>"</span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br /> </span></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span">I'm looking forward to seeing some of you the week of March7th when I'll be in London. In addition to dropping into the Google office, I'll be speaking at QCon London. <span style="border-collapse: collapse;">If you want to attend (at a cheaper rate than normal) here are the details:</span></span></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></span></div><ul style="border-collapse: collapse;" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="http://qconlondon.com/london-2011/conference/" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank">London event</a> March 7-11, 2011.</span></span></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span">My personal "<span style="color: #222222;">promotion</span> code" will save you £100 if they enter this code during registration.</span></span></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color: #222222;">Promotion</span> code is: COPE100</span></span></li> </ul><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Hope to see you in London,</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Patrick Copeland</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Senior Engineering Director, Google</span></div></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I'll be speaking very soon about innovation and The Pretotyping Manifesto (note: not prototyping). It's a concept that works well for any type of engineering, testing, or idea. Here's a brief preview...</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br /> </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">The talk starts off by discussing the odds against innovators and how the deck is stacked against you from the start. Most engineers begin with trying to come up with THE killer idea. But you quickly realize that ideas are cheap. We all believe that our own ideas are good. As a matter of fact, most of us LOVE our own ideas to the point where it clouds our judgement. In parallel, there is a strong desire to jump in and build something after a great idea has been identified. Sometimes swarms of well intentioned people join in and "help." Quickly innovators can find themselves in the weeds or feeling disconnected from their original dream. So, what can be done? The idea is to use pretotyping and to focus on techniques that allow you to: </span><span style="border-collapse: collapse;">Build the right it vs. Build it right.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><br /> </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span">Last time I did this talk, it was called: "<span style="line-height: 16px;"><a href="http://www.infoq.com/articles/QCon-San-Francisco-2010#__26">the best keynote of any tech conference ever!</a>"</span></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br /> </span></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse;"><span class="Apple-style-span">I'm looking forward to seeing some of you the week of March7th when I'll be in London. In addition to dropping into the Google office, I'll be speaking at QCon London. <span style="border-collapse: collapse;">If you want to attend (at a cheaper rate than normal) here are the details:</span></span></div><div style="border-collapse: collapse;"><div class="MsoNormal" style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color: #1f497d;"></span></span></div><ul style="border-collapse: collapse;" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><a href="http://qconlondon.com/london-2011/conference/" style="color: #0000cc;" target="_blank">London event</a> March 7-11, 2011.</span></span></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span">My personal "<span style="color: #222222;">promotion</span> code" will save you £100 if they enter this code during registration.</span></span></li> <li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"><span style="background-color: white;"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span style="color: #222222;">Promotion</span> code is: COPE100</span></span></li> </ul><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Hope to see you in London,</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Patrick Copeland</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span">Senior Engineering Director, Google</span></div></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Google Innovation and The Pretotyping Manifesto&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/01/google-innovation-and-pretotyping.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/01/google-innovation-and-pretotyping.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/01/google-innovation-and-pretotyping.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>1 comment</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2011/01/google-innovation-and-pretotyping.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='989806543529297125' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/10/keynote-at-qcon-sfo.html' itemprop='url' title='Keynote at QCon SFO'> Keynote at QCon SFO </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Wednesday, October 27, 2010 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> by Patrick Copeland<br /><br />FYI...I'll be giving a keynote at QCon in SFO next week. Fortunately, or unfortunately as the case my be, the conference is sold out. But they will post a video of the talk following the conference. If you are interested here's the abstract and a pointer to their site (http://qconsf.com/): <br /><br />There are many paths to innovation. At one extreme, we have large companies who create research labs, staff them with world-class Ph.Ds, and set them working for years to solve extremely complex technical problems. At the other extreme, we have the proverbial "two entrepreneurs in the garage" working on a shoe-string budget. Between these two extremes, we have all sorts of combinations of organizational structure, team size, budgets and time horizons. <br /><br />History shows that world-changing innovation is possible through all of these paths. But history also shows that, as companies grow in size and reputation, they almost inevitably become more conservative and risk-averse when it comes to considering, and investing in, new ideas and disruptive technology – often with disastrous results.<br /><br />He will describe how Google's core beliefs, culture, organization and infrastructure have successfully encouraged and enabled innovation throughout its growth. He will conclude by presenting and discussing a practical manifesto to stimulate and leverage innovation in any organization. <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> by Patrick Copeland<br /><br />FYI...I'll be giving a keynote at QCon in SFO next week. Fortunately, or unfortunately as the case my be, the conference is sold out. But they will post a video of the talk following the conference. If you are interested here's the abstract and a pointer to their site (http://qconsf.com/): <br /><br />There are many paths to innovation. At one extreme, we have large companies who create research labs, staff them with world-class Ph.Ds, and set them working for years to solve extremely complex technical problems. At the other extreme, we have the proverbial "two entrepreneurs in the garage" working on a shoe-string budget. Between these two extremes, we have all sorts of combinations of organizational structure, team size, budgets and time horizons. <br /><br />History shows that world-changing innovation is possible through all of these paths. But history also shows that, as companies grow in size and reputation, they almost inevitably become more conservative and risk-averse when it comes to considering, and investing in, new ideas and disruptive technology – often with disastrous results.<br /><br />He will describe how Google's core beliefs, culture, organization and infrastructure have successfully encouraged and enabled innovation throughout its growth. He will conclude by presenting and discussing a practical manifesto to stimulate and leverage innovation in any organization. <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Keynote at QCon SFO&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/10/keynote-at-qcon-sfo.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/10/keynote-at-qcon-sfo.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/10/keynote-at-qcon-sfo.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>No comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/10/keynote-at-qcon-sfo.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='5046130483695152761' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html' itemprop='url' title='Google's Innovation Factory (and how testing adapts)'> Google's Innovation Factory (and how testing adapts) </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Monday, April 19, 2010 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <div>Now that <a href="http://vps.it-sudparis.eu/icst2010/icst2010v4_fichiers/Page308.htm"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">ICST</span> 2010</a> has concluded, I'm going ahead and posting the keynote paper and the slides. Enjoy! </div><div>Patrick Copeland</div><div><br /></div><div>Let me know if you have comments or questions.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's a <a href="https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-ol_orZC-QgMzZkMDhmYTYtYjIxMC00MTA5LTk0YjUtOWU3YTAyYzAzZGJi&hl=en">link</a> to the paper. They are semi-complementary. </div><br /><iframe src="http://docs.google.com/present/embed?id=dx5zxb8_7g6knqgxk&interval=5&size=m" frameborder="0" width="555" height="451"></iframe> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <div>Now that <a href="http://vps.it-sudparis.eu/icst2010/icst2010v4_fichiers/Page308.htm"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">ICST</span> 2010</a> has concluded, I'm going ahead and posting the keynote paper and the slides. Enjoy! </div><div>Patrick Copeland</div><div><br /></div><div>Let me know if you have comments or questions.</div><div><br /></div><div>Here's a <a href="https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-ol_orZC-QgMzZkMDhmYTYtYjIxMC00MTA5LTk0YjUtOWU3YTAyYzAzZGJi&hl=en">link</a> to the paper. They are semi-complementary. </div><br /><iframe src="http://docs.google.com/present/embed?id=dx5zxb8_7g6knqgxk&interval=5&size=m" frameborder="0" width="555" height="451"></iframe> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Google's Innovation Factory (and how testing adapts)&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>8 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/04/googles-innovation-factory-and-how.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='7908330596400135061' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-is-hiring-sets.html' itemprop='url' title='Google is hiring SETs'> Google is hiring SETs </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Friday, March 12, 2010 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Drop me a resume and a brief note if you're interested in joining Google as an SET. email: test.eng.hiring@gmail.com. Thanks -- Patrick Copeland</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">When we hire people we look for folks with a "testing DNA." These are people who are great computer scientists at their core, but also are very curious, love software, and are passionate about test engineering. People who have those characteristics tend to pursue challenges and continue to learn. Are you one of us? We have positions all over the US and the world.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">What is a SET?</span></b></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">At Google, Software Engineers in Test (SET) develop test frameworks and build robust, scalable, and effective tests. SETs spend a majority of their time coding in either C++, Java, or scripting in Python. A SET is a software engineer, a core developer, who has a passion for test engineering. </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">How is testing done differently at Google?</span></b></span></div><div><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Literally within milliseconds of a code check-in, our build process will automatically select the appropriate tests to run based on dependency analysis, run those tests and report the results. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">By reducing the window of opportunity for bad code to go unnoticed, overall debugging and bug isolation time is radically reduced. The net result is that the engineering teams no longer sink hours into debugging build problems and test failures.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Development teams write good tests because they care about the products, but also because they want more time to spend writing features and less on debugging.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Testing teams focus on higher abstractions, like identifying latencies, system or customer focused testing, and enabling the process with tools.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SETs avoid becoming codependents within this system and generally do not write unit tests or other activities that are best done by the developer.</span></span></li></ul></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">More about SETs</span></b></span></div><div><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Our SET’s spend time developing code to prevent bugs. Google has a strong cultural emphasis on developers improving quality (i.e. unit tests, code reviews, design reviews, root cause analysis). We want our engineers to spend their time innovating - not fixing bugs.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SETs enable products to launch faster. They have great influence over internal processes and how developers write code. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">One of Google's less understood capabilities is our massive distributed computing environment. The testing groups exploit this infrastructure to do huge amounts of work very quickly and elegantly. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">For someone who wants to learn and grow as an engineer, the uninhibited access to the entire code base is a unique opportunity.</span></span></li></ul></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Drop me a resume and a brief note if you're interested in joining Google as an SET. email: test.eng.hiring@gmail.com. Thanks -- Patrick Copeland</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">When we hire people we look for folks with a "testing DNA." These are people who are great computer scientists at their core, but also are very curious, love software, and are passionate about test engineering. People who have those characteristics tend to pursue challenges and continue to learn. Are you one of us? We have positions all over the US and the world.</span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">What is a SET?</span></b></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">At Google, Software Engineers in Test (SET) develop test frameworks and build robust, scalable, and effective tests. SETs spend a majority of their time coding in either C++, Java, or scripting in Python. A SET is a software engineer, a core developer, who has a passion for test engineering. </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br /></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">How is testing done differently at Google?</span></b></span></div><div><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Literally within milliseconds of a code check-in, our build process will automatically select the appropriate tests to run based on dependency analysis, run those tests and report the results. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">By reducing the window of opportunity for bad code to go unnoticed, overall debugging and bug isolation time is radically reduced. The net result is that the engineering teams no longer sink hours into debugging build problems and test failures.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Development teams write good tests because they care about the products, but also because they want more time to spend writing features and less on debugging.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Testing teams focus on higher abstractions, like identifying latencies, system or customer focused testing, and enabling the process with tools.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SETs avoid becoming codependents within this system and generally do not write unit tests or other activities that are best done by the developer.</span></span></li></ul></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">More about SETs</span></b></span></div><div><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Our SET’s spend time developing code to prevent bugs. Google has a strong cultural emphasis on developers improving quality (i.e. unit tests, code reviews, design reviews, root cause analysis). We want our engineers to spend their time innovating - not fixing bugs.</span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">SETs enable products to launch faster. They have great influence over internal processes and how developers write code. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">One of Google's less understood capabilities is our massive distributed computing environment. The testing groups exploit this infrastructure to do huge amounts of work very quickly and elegantly. </span></span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:arial;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">For someone who wants to learn and grow as an engineer, the uninhibited access to the entire code base is a unique opportunity.</span></span></li></ul></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Google is hiring SETs&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-is-hiring-sets.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-is-hiring-sets.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-is-hiring-sets.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>26 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-is-hiring-sets.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Jobs' rel='tag'> Jobs </a> , <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='5774504648297413591' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-icst-2010.html' itemprop='url' title='Google @ ICST 2010'> Google @ ICST 2010 </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Saturday, March 06, 2010 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> I'll be a presenting a paper at ICST 2010 in Paris April 6-10 about how Google tests and builds software. Here's a <a href="https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-ol_orZC-QgMjAzMGI4N2YtMjgwOC00YWUzLTk4ODItY2EwODQ0MjVmNTkx&hl=en">pointer to the program</a> if you are interested. Also here's a <a href="http://vps.it-sudparis.eu/icst2010/icst2010v4_fichiers/Page488copeland.htm">link to the abstract</a> of the talk itself. I'll publish the paper after the talk here. Hopefully, I'll see some of you there!<div><br /><span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland</span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> I'll be a presenting a paper at ICST 2010 in Paris April 6-10 about how Google tests and builds software. Here's a <a href="https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-ol_orZC-QgMjAzMGI4N2YtMjgwOC00YWUzLTk4ODItY2EwODQ0MjVmNTkx&hl=en">pointer to the program</a> if you are interested. Also here's a <a href="http://vps.it-sudparis.eu/icst2010/icst2010v4_fichiers/Page488copeland.htm">link to the abstract</a> of the talk itself. I'll publish the paper after the talk here. Hopefully, I'll see some of you there!<div><br /><span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland</span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Google @ ICST 2010&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-icst-2010.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-icst-2010.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-icst-2010.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>5 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/03/google-icst-2010.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='3494400310437022270' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/02/interview-with-copeland.html' itemprop='url' title='Interview with Copeland'> Interview with Copeland </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Tuesday, February 23, 2010 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> I recently did an interview with Matt Johnston of uTest (a community based testing company) that talks about our philosophy and approach to testing at Google. Let me know what you think. <div><br /></div><div><a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-i/2010/02/">Part 1</a>, <a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-ii/2010/02/">Part 2</a>, <a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-iii/2010/02/">Part 3</a></div><div><br /><span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland</span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> I recently did an interview with Matt Johnston of uTest (a community based testing company) that talks about our philosophy and approach to testing at Google. Let me know what you think. <div><br /></div><div><a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-i/2010/02/">Part 1</a>, <a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-ii/2010/02/">Part 2</a>, <a href="http://blog.utest.com/testing-the-limits-with-patrick-copeland-part-iii/2010/02/">Part 3</a></div><div><br /><span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland</span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Interview with Copeland&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/02/interview-with-copeland.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/02/interview-with-copeland.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/02/interview-with-copeland.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>2 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2010/02/interview-with-copeland.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='4423389607868514209' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/12/httptwittercomgoogletesting.html' itemprop='url' title='http://twitter.com/googletesting'> http://twitter.com/googletesting </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Monday, December 14, 2009 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> Google Testing Blog is now live on twitter. Follow us here: <a href="http://twitter.com/googletesting">http://twitter.com/googletesting</a><div><br /></div><div>By Patrick Copeland</div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> Google Testing Blog is now live on twitter. Follow us here: <a href="http://twitter.com/googletesting">http://twitter.com/googletesting</a><div><br /></div><div>By Patrick Copeland</div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:http://twitter.com/googletesting&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/12/httptwittercomgoogletesting.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/12/httptwittercomgoogletesting.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/12/httptwittercomgoogletesting.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>1 comment</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/12/httptwittercomgoogletesting.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='1937060308977825007' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-stats.html' itemprop='url' title='Blog Stats'> Blog Stats </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Tuesday, July 21, 2009 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <p><span style="font-family:arial;">by Patrick Copeland</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">We get questions once in a while about our readership. Here's a brief summary of the <strong>last 30 days</strong>...</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">P</span><span style="font-family:arial;">age view count: 34,140<br />Time on each page: 2:52<br />Most <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">popular</span> day to read: Tuesday's.<br />Most traffic (top 5 in order): US, India, UK, Germany, Canada<br />Number of <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">countries with readers</span>: 131</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">Most popular posts...</span></p><ol><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-are-we-embarrassed-to-admit-that-we.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/why-are-we-embarrassed-to-admit-that-we</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> (2,227)</span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/7-plagues-of-software-testing.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/7-plagues-of-software-testing</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> (2,151)</span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/software-testing-categorization.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/software-testing-categorization</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/by-shyam-seshadri-nowadays-when-i-talk.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/advantages-of-unit-testing</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/by-james.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/plague-of-repetitiveness</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/old-habits-die-hard.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/old-habits-die-hard</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/separation-anxiety.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/separation-anxiety </span></a></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/gtac-call-for-proposals.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">gtac</span></span>-call-for-proposals</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/plague-of-amnesia.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/plague-of-amnesia</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li></ol> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <p><span style="font-family:arial;">by Patrick Copeland</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">We get questions once in a while about our readership. Here's a brief summary of the <strong>last 30 days</strong>...</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">P</span><span style="font-family:arial;">age view count: 34,140<br />Time on each page: 2:52<br />Most <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">popular</span> day to read: Tuesday's.<br />Most traffic (top 5 in order): US, India, UK, Germany, Canada<br />Number of <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">countries with readers</span>: 131</span></p><p><span style="font-family:arial;">Most popular posts...</span></p><ol><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/why-are-we-embarrassed-to-admit-that-we.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/why-are-we-embarrassed-to-admit-that-we</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> (2,227)</span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/7-plagues-of-software-testing.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/7-plagues-of-software-testing</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> (2,151)</span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/software-testing-categorization.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/software-testing-categorization</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/by-shyam-seshadri-nowadays-when-i-talk.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/advantages-of-unit-testing</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/by-james.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/plague-of-repetitiveness</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/old-habits-die-hard.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/old-habits-die-hard</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/separation-anxiety.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/separation-anxiety </span></a></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/06/gtac-call-for-proposals.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/06/<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">gtac</span></span>-call-for-proposals</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li><li><a href="http://googletesting.blogspot.com/2009/07/plague-of-amnesia.html"><span style="font-family:arial;">/2009/07/plague-of-amnesia</span></a><span style="font-family:arial;"> </span></li></ol> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Blog Stats&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-stats.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-stats.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-stats.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>No comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-stats.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='781150873688745739' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-editor-moderating-comments.html' itemprop='url' title='Blog Editor: Moderating Comments'> Blog Editor: Moderating Comments </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Thursday, July 16, 2009 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> by Patrick Copeland<br /><br />You might not know this but when we started this blog back in January 2007 we were the first at Google to allow readers to comment openly on our posts. We take pride in our goal to participate in the testing community.<br /><br />This openness is sometimes abused. Lately the volume of comment spam has been on the raise. We have to spend a lot of time playing "whack-a-mole" cleaning it up. It's annoying to our readers and clutters the legitimate discussion.<br /><br />We've taken the step to moderate comments starting today and will delete spam before you see it. Comments that are clearly spam or are purely promotional in nature will be filtered. The only down side is that comments will have a slight latency getting posted. We will continue to encourage debate and won't censor conflicting or alternative ideas.<br /><br />Thanks for understanding. And keep up the rich discussion.<br /><span class="byline-author"></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> by Patrick Copeland<br /><br />You might not know this but when we started this blog back in January 2007 we were the first at Google to allow readers to comment openly on our posts. We take pride in our goal to participate in the testing community.<br /><br />This openness is sometimes abused. Lately the volume of comment spam has been on the raise. We have to spend a lot of time playing "whack-a-mole" cleaning it up. It's annoying to our readers and clutters the legitimate discussion.<br /><br />We've taken the step to moderate comments starting today and will delete spam before you see it. Comments that are clearly spam or are purely promotional in nature will be filtered. The only down side is that comments will have a slight latency getting posted. We will continue to encourage debate and won't censor conflicting or alternative ideas.<br /><br />Thanks for understanding. And keep up the rich discussion.<br /><span class="byline-author"></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Blog Editor: Moderating Comments&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-editor-moderating-comments.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-editor-moderating-comments.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-editor-moderating-comments.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>5 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/07/blog-editor-moderating-comments.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='4236649122107332594' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/06/james-whittaker-joins-google.html' itemprop='url' title='James Whittaker joins Google'> James Whittaker joins Google </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Tuesday, June 02, 2009 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse;font-family:arial;font-size:13;" ><div>By Patrick Copeland</div><div><br /></div><div>I'm excited to announce that James Whittaker has joined us as our newest Test Director at Google. <br /></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse;font-family:arial;font-size:13;" ><div><br /></div><div>James comes to us most recently from Microsoft. He has spent his career focusing on testing, building high quality products, and designing tools and process at the industrial scale. In the not so distant past, he was a professor of computer science at Florida Tech where he taught an entire software testing curriculum and issued computer science degrees with a minor in testing (something we need more schools to do). Following that , he started a consulting practice that spanned 33 countries. Apparently, fashion is not high on his list as he he has collected soccer jerseys from many of these countries and wears those during major tournaments. At Microsoft he wrote a <a style="COLOR: rgb(42,93,176)" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/james_whittaker/" target="_blank">popular blog,</a> and in the near future you can expect him to start <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">contributing</span> here. </div><div><br /></div><div>He has trained thousands of testers worldwide. He's also written set of books in the <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><a style="COLOR: rgb(42,93,176)" href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/How-to-Break-Software/James-A-Whittaker/e/9780201796193" target="_blank">How to Break Software</a> </span>series. They have won awards and achieved best seller status. His most recent book is on exploratory testing is coming out this summer. It is not a stretch to say that he is one of the most recognizable names in the industry and has had a deep impact on the field of testing. If you have a chance, strike up a conversation with James about the future of testing. His vision for what we'll be doing and how our profession will change is interesting, compelling and not just a little bit scary.</div><div><br /></div><div>Join me in welcoming James to Google!</div></span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse;font-family:arial;font-size:13;" ><div>By Patrick Copeland</div><div><br /></div><div>I'm excited to announce that James Whittaker has joined us as our newest Test Director at Google. <br /></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse;font-family:arial;font-size:13;" ><div><br /></div><div>James comes to us most recently from Microsoft. He has spent his career focusing on testing, building high quality products, and designing tools and process at the industrial scale. In the not so distant past, he was a professor of computer science at Florida Tech where he taught an entire software testing curriculum and issued computer science degrees with a minor in testing (something we need more schools to do). Following that , he started a consulting practice that spanned 33 countries. Apparently, fashion is not high on his list as he he has collected soccer jerseys from many of these countries and wears those during major tournaments. At Microsoft he wrote a <a style="COLOR: rgb(42,93,176)" href="http://blogs.msdn.com/james_whittaker/" target="_blank">popular blog,</a> and in the near future you can expect him to start <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">contributing</span> here. </div><div><br /></div><div>He has trained thousands of testers worldwide. He's also written set of books in the <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><a style="COLOR: rgb(42,93,176)" href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/How-to-Break-Software/James-A-Whittaker/e/9780201796193" target="_blank">How to Break Software</a> </span>series. They have won awards and achieved best seller status. His most recent book is on exploratory testing is coming out this summer. It is not a stretch to say that he is one of the most recognizable names in the industry and has had a deep impact on the field of testing. If you have a chance, strike up a conversation with James about the future of testing. His vision for what we'll be doing and how our profession will change is interesting, compelling and not just a little bit scary.</div><div><br /></div><div>Join me in welcoming James to Google!</div></span></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:James Whittaker joins Google&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/06/james-whittaker-joins-google.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/06/james-whittaker-joins-google.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/06/james-whittaker-joins-google.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>8 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/06/james-whittaker-joins-google.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/James%20Whittaker' rel='tag'> James Whittaker </a> , <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='4797867827188004307' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/04/beyond-testing-becoming-part-of.html' itemprop='url' title='Beyond Testing: Becoming Part of the Innovation Machine'> Beyond Testing: Becoming Part of the Innovation Machine </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Tuesday, April 14, 2009 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <td bgcolor="#dfecf4" width="2%"></td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#dfecf4" valign="top" width="80%"><span class="GreyText"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><div style="margin-top: 8px; margin-right: 8px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 8px; font: normal normal normal small/normal arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 16px; ">As you may have noticed, we've taken a short hiatus from posting. But all is not lost...we have been building a group of robots that will automatically write witty testing articles for us. We are still tweaking our algorithms for verbosity, humor, and technical detail. Once we are done, the posting will continue. In the mean time, we are sending one of our cyborgs to do a keynote at <a href="http://www.sqe.com/StareaSt/Keynotes/Default.aspx">Star East 2009.</a> Here's the topic of the keynote if you are interested...</span></div></span><blockquote>Testing, once a marginalized function at Google, is now an integral part of Google’s innovation machine. Patrick Copeland describes how this vital transformation took place. As he was analyzing how to be more efficient and better align his testing team with the needs of the company, Patrick realized they had to move beyond “just testing” and become a force for change. His approach was based on five powerful principles: (1) Building feature factories rather than products, (2) Embedding testing at the grass roots level, (3) Solving problems of scale with technology, (4) Automating at the right level of abstraction, (5) Only doing what the team can do well. Learn how Google test teams used these principles to shift from a “service group” composed predominantly of exploratory testers to an “engineering group” with technical skills. Their focus became “delivering innovation” rather than “testing product.” Learn how Patrick led a cultural shift where product teams saw testing and continuous improvement, not as alien concepts driven by someone else, but as a tool for them to meet their own goals of delivering features quickly and with fewer problems. Discover how you can incorporate the lessons of Google to make your test team a vital force for change.</blockquote></span></td> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <td bgcolor="#dfecf4" width="2%"></td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#dfecf4" valign="top" width="80%"><span class="GreyText"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><div style="margin-top: 8px; margin-right: 8px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 8px; font: normal normal normal small/normal arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia; font-size: 16px; ">As you may have noticed, we've taken a short hiatus from posting. But all is not lost...we have been building a group of robots that will automatically write witty testing articles for us. We are still tweaking our algorithms for verbosity, humor, and technical detail. Once we are done, the posting will continue. In the mean time, we are sending one of our cyborgs to do a keynote at <a href="http://www.sqe.com/StareaSt/Keynotes/Default.aspx">Star East 2009.</a> Here's the topic of the keynote if you are interested...</span></div></span><blockquote>Testing, once a marginalized function at Google, is now an integral part of Google’s innovation machine. Patrick Copeland describes how this vital transformation took place. As he was analyzing how to be more efficient and better align his testing team with the needs of the company, Patrick realized they had to move beyond “just testing” and become a force for change. His approach was based on five powerful principles: (1) Building feature factories rather than products, (2) Embedding testing at the grass roots level, (3) Solving problems of scale with technology, (4) Automating at the right level of abstraction, (5) Only doing what the team can do well. Learn how Google test teams used these principles to shift from a “service group” composed predominantly of exploratory testers to an “engineering group” with technical skills. Their focus became “delivering innovation” rather than “testing product.” Learn how Patrick led a cultural shift where product teams saw testing and continuous improvement, not as alien concepts driven by someone else, but as a tool for them to meet their own goals of delivering features quickly and with fewer problems. Discover how you can incorporate the lessons of Google to make your test team a vital force for change.</blockquote></span></td> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Beyond Testing: Becoming Part of the Innovation Machine&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/04/beyond-testing-becoming-part-of.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/04/beyond-testing-becoming-part-of.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/04/beyond-testing-becoming-part-of.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>4 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2009/04/beyond-testing-becoming-part-of.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='9107537524752361033' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/07/yui-and-gwt-how-do-you-test.html' itemprop='url' title='YUI and GWT... How do you test?'> YUI and GWT... How do you test? </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Monday, July 21, 2008 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director<br /><br />A smart person once said that, "all computer science problems can be solved by introducing another abstraction layer." From a testing perspective, every new abstraction layer also introduces every problem in computer science.<br /><br />Frank Cohen, of PushToTest, wrote a blog post recently that focuses on the Google Web Tool Kit and puts the challange of dealing new abstration layers into a brief historical perspective.<br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6r34jf">http://tinyurl.com/6r34jf</a><br /></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director<br /><br />A smart person once said that, "all computer science problems can be solved by introducing another abstraction layer." From a testing perspective, every new abstraction layer also introduces every problem in computer science.<br /><br />Frank Cohen, of PushToTest, wrote a blog post recently that focuses on the Google Web Tool Kit and puts the challange of dealing new abstration layers into a brief historical perspective.<br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6r34jf">http://tinyurl.com/6r34jf</a><br /></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:YUI and GWT... How do you test?&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/07/yui-and-gwt-how-do-you-test.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/07/yui-and-gwt-how-do-you-test.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/07/yui-and-gwt-how-do-you-test.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>5 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/07/yui-and-gwt-how-do-you-test.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='660789245724190864' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/06/productivity-games-using-games-to.html' itemprop='url' title='Productivity Games – Using Games to Improve Quality'> Productivity Games – Using Games to Improve Quality </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Saturday, June 21, 2008 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> Editor's note (Pat Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director, Google): On occasion we ask a special guest to post on an interesting topic. Ross has some really interesting ideas about how to use games to influence behavior. I'm a big fan. Enjoy!<br /><br /><br />Ross Smith, Director of Test, Microsoft Windows Core Security<br /><i><br />“Quality takes you out of yourself, makes you aware of the world around you.” [1]<br /></i><br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal">The “Gamer Generation” is here. <span style="font-size:0;"></span>According to the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/07/AR2006050700172.html">Washington Post</a>, in 2006 at least 40% of Americans play video games on a computer or a console. The largest demographic is 18-34 year-<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">olds</span>, many of whom are working as our friends and peers as software developers and testers. <span style="font-size:0;"></span>There is a great book, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=uxz6UU_AW3cC">Got Game</a>, which describes the impact of games on the workforce of today and in the future.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Many businesses are wondering these days how to use simple concepts popular in video games and apply them to work.</p><p class="MsoNormal">It’s happening already. From a construction site with a sign posted with “days since last accident” to the car dealer with <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">salespersons</span> leader board scrawled out in chalk. Simple competition helps work get done in all kinds of industries. The success of sales contests is a great example of how well competition works.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><i>“In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and—SNAP—the job’s a game!” —Mary Poppins</i></p><p class="MsoNormal">A company called <a href="http://www.seriosity.com/products.html"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">Seriosity</span></a> has made interesting use of video game concepts at work with their application of virtual currency to email. To help with information overload from an overflowing inbox, email senders can “spend” virtual currency (<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">Serios</span>) to help prioritize their messages. Spending to denote the importance of a message is not a whole lot different than buying new golf clubs with virtual money earned in a Tiger Woods game, buying new tires in a car racing game – or using gamer points to upgrade your armor in an <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">RPG</span> (Role-playing Game). Wired Magazine had a <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.04/learn.html">great article</a> on the use of WOW as a leadership training game. Playing games at work is more than just a quick game of online Hearts with one finger on the “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_key">boss key</a>”. Games at work can have real impact.</p><p class="MsoNormal">With other industries using productivity games, what about software development?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>How can productivity games help testers improve the quality of the products they test?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>One of the more famous test techniques is the bug bash. Teams pick a certain date, and everyone bangs on a certain area of the product to find bugs. At the end, prizes are awarded while everyone enjoys pizza and drinks. That sounds a lot like game, doesn't it?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>It’s also a perfect example of a simple productivity game.</p><p class="MsoNormal">As the world of software gets more complex and the test matrix grows, there is no shortage of opportunities for testers to do more testing. Quality is always “improved”, it’s never completed, fixed or finished. Therefore, testers must choose from a variety of techniques and activities to pursue tasks with the highest return and value. In 1990, <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/1990/index.html">Harry <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Markowitz</span></a> won the Nobel Prize for his work on <a href="http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cm/m16/m16-all.pdf">Portfolio Selection</a> (that he began in the 1950’s). The theory, familiar in financial markets and mutual funds, is that a portfolio of diverse assets with varying risk and returns actually reduces risk in time uncertain conditions. Testers can benefit from the work on portfolio selection by varying the techniques they use to find defects. However, some techniques are more expensive, more difficult, or less attractive than others. Some teams, in some situations, can rely on the altruism and volunteer efforts – <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_citizenship_behavior">organizational citizenship behaviors</a> – of their members to take on the more difficult tasks. However, that doesn't always work, and other incentives may be required. That’s where productivity games can help.</p><p class="MsoNormal">When a project needs a bit of a push towards a certain behavior, building a game around it can help.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>For example, if a test team wants to improve the usage of unit tests by developers, encourage the team to “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one">eat their own <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">dogfood</span></a>” or run automated tests on personal machines overnight, then creating a game will help people’s motivation can motivate people to participate in those activities. </p><p class="MsoNormal">Productivity games differ from traditional games in a few distinct ways. The goal of a productivity game is to attract players. <b>These games don’t need winners as much as they need players. </b>In many cases, productivity games don’t even need prizes. Productivity games can be simple. There’s no need to invest in expensive graphics or 3-D modeling – people play the game to compete around a work activity, not because of the appeal of the user interface. A simple leader board might be all that’s needed. </p><p class="MsoNormal">Using games at work is a powerful and effective method to influence change in organizational behavior, and therefore requires care in the design and use. It is possible to overdo the use of games to a point where they are counter-productive or ineffective. Successful game design is best achieved through experience and experimentation, and the goal should be to keep things interesting enough to always attract players. A game where one player leaps out to an insurmountable lead is not effective, because that will discourage others from playing. When a team wants to encourage testers to invest in fault injection techniques, setting up a leader board with bug totals found via fault injection techniques will attract attention of other testers, often just by word-of-mouth. You should encourage team-wide competition, smack talk, and public embarrassment as a means to draw attention. Games should be short in duration.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>Many testers remember the Dilbert “I’m gonna write me a new minivan” from 11/13/95. This is what results from a poorly designed productivity game.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Productivity games are great at motivating people to do things and change behavior. And as Uncle Ben said to <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">Spiderman</span>, “With great power comes great responsibility”. It’s critical to have specific goals for the games, and to understand the impact before deploying a game – it’s pretty likely that people will play, at least initially, and the impact may not be what you intended. Keep the duration of games short in order to be able to adjust. And finally, keep the games focused on volunteer or “extra” activities. A game designed around an individual’s job or portions of everyone’s regular job can introduce unusual feelings when it comes to rewards and performance evaluation. It’s easier to steer clear of that than to try to figure out the right balance.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Shigeru</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Miyamoto</span>, who designed Super Mario Bros., talks about games as “miniature gardens”, metaphorically representing the cultural values, humanity, and challenges of everyday life the way a miniature garden might represent a real one. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><i>The whole idea, for me, is about the exploration of a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">hakoniwa</span>, a miniature garden. It's like a garden in a box, where if you look at it from different angles, you can see different plants and arrangements. And you have that sense of surprise and exploration. There's always things you can find. </i>[2]<br /></p><p class="MsoNormal">Games are a lot like testing.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>Software quality assurance and testing efforts represent a proxy for real users in much the same way that games are a proxy for the real world. The challenges that Mario faces with fire-breathing dragons and knife throwing turtles are balanced by the allure of coins and princesses.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>A testing organization has a good idea of the tools available in their portfolio to improve quality and eliminate those “fire-breathing dragons” for their customers. Productivity games allow teams to offer coins and position rewards around their equivalents of <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">Markowitz</span>’s “diverse assets” at their disposal, in the form of defect detection and removal techniques, to improve quality. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:0;"></span>For the players, productivity games offer people the ability to learn, solve problems, and earn a reward. They offer a way to challenge players to compete, to explore and discover, and to establish a surrogate identity or status via a leader board. There are many fundamental motivations to play a game. “<i>If you build it, they will come [3]." </i>A good productivity game designer can build a game around “work that needs to be done that no one wants to do” – and like the lone teenager who plays Halo for weeks on end, people will take on that work. Experiment and explore – the results can be surprising.</p><p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested in any <a href="mailto:rosss@defectprevention.org?subject=Comments%20on%20Productivity%20Games">comments about Productivity Games</a> that you might have.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt">Thanks,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt">Ross Smith</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt"><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/">http://www.defectprevention.org/</a> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Interesting Links: <span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"></span></b></p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7030234.stm" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>When Work becomes a Game</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://seriousgames.org/index2.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Serious Games Initiative</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.e-learningguru.com/books/gotgame.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Got Game - How the Gamer Generation is Reshaping Business Forever</u></span></a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;"> </span></p><p><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/book.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Chapter 5 – Productivity Games - The Practical Guide to Defect Prevention</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/downloads/bug+hunter.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>2008 Serious Games Summit presentation</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/education/theses/20030901/gingold_01.shtml" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Miniature Gardens and Magic Crayons: Games, Spaces, & Worlds</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/articles/article.jsp?ml_subscriber=true&ml_action=get-article&&articleID=R0805C&pageNumber=1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>HBR Leadership’s Online Labs</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91573868" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>NPR: Software lets users assign value to email</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.edery.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Game Tycoon blog</u></span></a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;"> (How Video Games are transforming the Business World) </span></p><p><a href="http://productivitygames.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Productivity Games Blog</u></span></a></p><a href="http://www.levityeffect.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>The Levity Effect</u></span></a><br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"></span></b><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%;font-size:85%;" ></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%;font-size:85%;" >Special thanks to Joshua Williams for his help with this post.<o:p></o:p></span><br /></p><hr align="left" width="33%" style="font-size:78;"><br /><div id="edn1"><p class="MsoEndnoteText">[1] Robert <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">Pirsig</span>, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance<br />[2] Wired Magazine Interview <a title="" href="//www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=15045980#_ednref3" name="_edn3">http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/interview-super.html<br /></a>[3] Field of Dreams, 1989</p></div><div id="edn2"></div><div id="edn3"></div> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> Editor's note (Pat Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director, Google): On occasion we ask a special guest to post on an interesting topic. Ross has some really interesting ideas about how to use games to influence behavior. I'm a big fan. Enjoy!<br /><br /><br />Ross Smith, Director of Test, Microsoft Windows Core Security<br /><i><br />“Quality takes you out of yourself, makes you aware of the world around you.” [1]<br /></i><br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal">The “Gamer Generation” is here. <span style="font-size:0;"></span>According to the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/07/AR2006050700172.html">Washington Post</a>, in 2006 at least 40% of Americans play video games on a computer or a console. The largest demographic is 18-34 year-<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">olds</span>, many of whom are working as our friends and peers as software developers and testers. <span style="font-size:0;"></span>There is a great book, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=uxz6UU_AW3cC">Got Game</a>, which describes the impact of games on the workforce of today and in the future.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Many businesses are wondering these days how to use simple concepts popular in video games and apply them to work.</p><p class="MsoNormal">It’s happening already. From a construction site with a sign posted with “days since last accident” to the car dealer with <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">salespersons</span> leader board scrawled out in chalk. Simple competition helps work get done in all kinds of industries. The success of sales contests is a great example of how well competition works.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><i>“In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and—SNAP—the job’s a game!” —Mary Poppins</i></p><p class="MsoNormal">A company called <a href="http://www.seriosity.com/products.html"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">Seriosity</span></a> has made interesting use of video game concepts at work with their application of virtual currency to email. To help with information overload from an overflowing inbox, email senders can “spend” virtual currency (<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">Serios</span>) to help prioritize their messages. Spending to denote the importance of a message is not a whole lot different than buying new golf clubs with virtual money earned in a Tiger Woods game, buying new tires in a car racing game – or using gamer points to upgrade your armor in an <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">RPG</span> (Role-playing Game). Wired Magazine had a <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.04/learn.html">great article</a> on the use of WOW as a leadership training game. Playing games at work is more than just a quick game of online Hearts with one finger on the “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_key">boss key</a>”. Games at work can have real impact.</p><p class="MsoNormal">With other industries using productivity games, what about software development?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>How can productivity games help testers improve the quality of the products they test?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>One of the more famous test techniques is the bug bash. Teams pick a certain date, and everyone bangs on a certain area of the product to find bugs. At the end, prizes are awarded while everyone enjoys pizza and drinks. That sounds a lot like game, doesn't it?<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>It’s also a perfect example of a simple productivity game.</p><p class="MsoNormal">As the world of software gets more complex and the test matrix grows, there is no shortage of opportunities for testers to do more testing. Quality is always “improved”, it’s never completed, fixed or finished. Therefore, testers must choose from a variety of techniques and activities to pursue tasks with the highest return and value. In 1990, <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/1990/index.html">Harry <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">Markowitz</span></a> won the Nobel Prize for his work on <a href="http://cowles.econ.yale.edu/P/cm/m16/m16-all.pdf">Portfolio Selection</a> (that he began in the 1950’s). The theory, familiar in financial markets and mutual funds, is that a portfolio of diverse assets with varying risk and returns actually reduces risk in time uncertain conditions. Testers can benefit from the work on portfolio selection by varying the techniques they use to find defects. However, some techniques are more expensive, more difficult, or less attractive than others. Some teams, in some situations, can rely on the altruism and volunteer efforts – <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_citizenship_behavior">organizational citizenship behaviors</a> – of their members to take on the more difficult tasks. However, that doesn't always work, and other incentives may be required. That’s where productivity games can help.</p><p class="MsoNormal">When a project needs a bit of a push towards a certain behavior, building a game around it can help.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>For example, if a test team wants to improve the usage of unit tests by developers, encourage the team to “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one">eat their own <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">dogfood</span></a>” or run automated tests on personal machines overnight, then creating a game will help people’s motivation can motivate people to participate in those activities. </p><p class="MsoNormal">Productivity games differ from traditional games in a few distinct ways. The goal of a productivity game is to attract players. <b>These games don’t need winners as much as they need players. </b>In many cases, productivity games don’t even need prizes. Productivity games can be simple. There’s no need to invest in expensive graphics or 3-D modeling – people play the game to compete around a work activity, not because of the appeal of the user interface. A simple leader board might be all that’s needed. </p><p class="MsoNormal">Using games at work is a powerful and effective method to influence change in organizational behavior, and therefore requires care in the design and use. It is possible to overdo the use of games to a point where they are counter-productive or ineffective. Successful game design is best achieved through experience and experimentation, and the goal should be to keep things interesting enough to always attract players. A game where one player leaps out to an insurmountable lead is not effective, because that will discourage others from playing. When a team wants to encourage testers to invest in fault injection techniques, setting up a leader board with bug totals found via fault injection techniques will attract attention of other testers, often just by word-of-mouth. You should encourage team-wide competition, smack talk, and public embarrassment as a means to draw attention. Games should be short in duration.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>Many testers remember the Dilbert “I’m gonna write me a new minivan” from 11/13/95. This is what results from a poorly designed productivity game.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Productivity games are great at motivating people to do things and change behavior. And as Uncle Ben said to <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">Spiderman</span>, “With great power comes great responsibility”. It’s critical to have specific goals for the games, and to understand the impact before deploying a game – it’s pretty likely that people will play, at least initially, and the impact may not be what you intended. Keep the duration of games short in order to be able to adjust. And finally, keep the games focused on volunteer or “extra” activities. A game designed around an individual’s job or portions of everyone’s regular job can introduce unusual feelings when it comes to rewards and performance evaluation. It’s easier to steer clear of that than to try to figure out the right balance.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">Shigeru</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9">Miyamoto</span>, who designed Super Mario Bros., talks about games as “miniature gardens”, metaphorically representing the cultural values, humanity, and challenges of everyday life the way a miniature garden might represent a real one. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><i>The whole idea, for me, is about the exploration of a <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10">hakoniwa</span>, a miniature garden. It's like a garden in a box, where if you look at it from different angles, you can see different plants and arrangements. And you have that sense of surprise and exploration. There's always things you can find. </i>[2]<br /></p><p class="MsoNormal">Games are a lot like testing.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>Software quality assurance and testing efforts represent a proxy for real users in much the same way that games are a proxy for the real world. The challenges that Mario faces with fire-breathing dragons and knife throwing turtles are balanced by the allure of coins and princesses.<span style="font-size:0;"> </span>A testing organization has a good idea of the tools available in their portfolio to improve quality and eliminate those “fire-breathing dragons” for their customers. Productivity games allow teams to offer coins and position rewards around their equivalents of <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11">Markowitz</span>’s “diverse assets” at their disposal, in the form of defect detection and removal techniques, to improve quality. </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:0;"></span>For the players, productivity games offer people the ability to learn, solve problems, and earn a reward. They offer a way to challenge players to compete, to explore and discover, and to establish a surrogate identity or status via a leader board. There are many fundamental motivations to play a game. “<i>If you build it, they will come [3]." </i>A good productivity game designer can build a game around “work that needs to be done that no one wants to do” – and like the lone teenager who plays Halo for weeks on end, people will take on that work. Experiment and explore – the results can be surprising.</p><p class="MsoNormal">I’d be interested in any <a href="mailto:rosss@defectprevention.org?subject=Comments%20on%20Productivity%20Games">comments about Productivity Games</a> that you might have.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt">Thanks,</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt">Ross Smith</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt"><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/">http://www.defectprevention.org/</a> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Interesting Links: <span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"></span></b></p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7030234.stm" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>When Work becomes a Game</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://seriousgames.org/index2.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Serious Games Initiative</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.e-learningguru.com/books/gotgame.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Got Game - How the Gamer Generation is Reshaping Business Forever</u></span></a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;"> </span></p><p><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/book.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Chapter 5 – Productivity Games - The Practical Guide to Defect Prevention</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.defectprevention.org/downloads/bug+hunter.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>2008 Serious Games Summit presentation</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/education/theses/20030901/gingold_01.shtml" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Miniature Gardens and Magic Crayons: Games, Spaces, & Worlds</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/articles/article.jsp?ml_subscriber=true&ml_action=get-article&&articleID=R0805C&pageNumber=1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>HBR Leadership’s Online Labs</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91573868" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>NPR: Software lets users assign value to email</u></span></a></p><p><a href="http://www.edery.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Game Tycoon blog</u></span></a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;"> (How Video Games are transforming the Business World) </span></p><p><a href="http://productivitygames.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>Productivity Games Blog</u></span></a></p><a href="http://www.levityeffect.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:100%;color:#0000ff;"><u>The Levity Effect</u></span></a><br /><br /><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"></span></b><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%;font-size:85%;" ></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%;font-size:85%;" >Special thanks to Joshua Williams for his help with this post.<o:p></o:p></span><br /></p><hr align="left" width="33%" style="font-size:78;"><br /><div id="edn1"><p class="MsoEndnoteText">[1] Robert <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13">Pirsig</span>, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance<br />[2] Wired Magazine Interview <a title="" href="//www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=15045980#_ednref3" name="_edn3">http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/12/interview-super.html<br /></a>[3] Field of Dreams, 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href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/02/ieee-article.html' itemprop='url' title='IEEE Article'> IEEE Article </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Monday, February 25, 2008 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director</span><br /><br />Article covering some of Google's Test culture. In the article, there's some focus on the ideas of "incremental testing" and how practices are changing in the software as a service world. Even with all of our drive to find better approaches, one thing to note is that we still believe in the fundamentals of testing. Here's a <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/52/4455615/04455640.pdf?isNumber=">direct link</a> (they use a bunch of indirection to get to the PDF. So if you can't get it directly, here's the <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?isnumber=4455615&arnumber=4455640">top level link</a>). <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span class="byline-author">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Engineering Productivity Director</span><br /><br />Article covering some of Google's Test culture. In the article, there's some focus on the ideas of "incremental testing" and how practices are changing in the software as a service world. Even with all of our drive to find better approaches, one thing to note is that we still believe in the fundamentals of testing. Here's a <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/52/4455615/04455640.pdf?isNumber=">direct link</a> (they use a bunch of indirection to get to the PDF. So if you can't get it directly, here's the <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?isnumber=4455615&arnumber=4455640">top level link</a>). <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:IEEE Article&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/02/ieee-article.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/02/ieee-article.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/02/ieee-article.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>4 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2008/02/ieee-article.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='5574267107512317494' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/10/testing-google-mashup-editor-class.html' itemprop='url' title='Testing Google Mashup Editor Class'> Testing Google Mashup Editor Class </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Thursday, October 11, 2007 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Test Engineering Director<br /><br /></span></span><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Wanted to let you know about a partnership Google Test Engineering is doing with the University of California, Irvine. We've teamed up with Professor Hadar Ziv to sponsor a course that focuses on preparing students for industry (code.google.com and several other companies are also participating). Naturally, our project focuses on testing. George Pirocanac is heading up this work and recently went down to Irvine to talk about how they will test our mash-up editor. Here's the basic project outline if you are curious.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Class Project Plan: Testing Google's Mash-up Editor</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Overall Class Goal</span><span style="font-family:arial;">: To understand the basic software functional testing concepts through the experience of a case study of testing the Google Mash-up Editor and to provide meaningful feedback to Google about the effectiveness and usability of the tool.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase I - Gaining Domain expertise and Exploratory Testing</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (four months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to explain what a mash-up is and why it is becoming important in today's internet. Be able to code a simple mash-up using a javascript api. Be able to code that same mash-up using Google Mash-up Editor tags. Be able to outline the basic features of the Google Mash-up editor. Be able to identify the essential elements of a functional test plan. Create a functional test plan outline for the Google Mash-up editor.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase II - Test Plan Execution over time</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (Keeping in step with development) (three months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to identify the major challenges in executing a test plan during the life of a software project. Be able to identify testing technologies for dealing with these challenges. Be able to identify the effectiveness of a testing approach. Execute the test plan and provide feedback to Google.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase III - Usability & Competing Technologies Survey</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (two months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to identify the essential elements of a usability study. Apply the topic of usability to programming. Compare and contrast the GME with three other industry mash-up editors.</span></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><span style="font-size:10;"></span></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Test Engineering Director<br /><br /></span></span><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Wanted to let you know about a partnership Google Test Engineering is doing with the University of California, Irvine. We've teamed up with Professor Hadar Ziv to sponsor a course that focuses on preparing students for industry (code.google.com and several other companies are also participating). Naturally, our project focuses on testing. George Pirocanac is heading up this work and recently went down to Irvine to talk about how they will test our mash-up editor. Here's the basic project outline if you are curious.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Class Project Plan: Testing Google's Mash-up Editor</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Overall Class Goal</span><span style="font-family:arial;">: To understand the basic software functional testing concepts through the experience of a case study of testing the Google Mash-up Editor and to provide meaningful feedback to Google about the effectiveness and usability of the tool.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase I - Gaining Domain expertise and Exploratory Testing</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (four months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to explain what a mash-up is and why it is becoming important in today's internet. Be able to code a simple mash-up using a javascript api. Be able to code that same mash-up using Google Mash-up Editor tags. Be able to outline the basic features of the Google Mash-up editor. Be able to identify the essential elements of a functional test plan. Create a functional test plan outline for the Google Mash-up editor.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase II - Test Plan Execution over time</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (Keeping in step with development) (three months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to identify the major challenges in executing a test plan during the life of a software project. Be able to identify testing technologies for dealing with these challenges. Be able to identify the effectiveness of a testing approach. Execute the test plan and provide feedback to Google.</span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;" ><br /><br />Phase III - Usability & Competing Technologies Survey</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> (two months)</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Goals: Be able to identify the essential elements of a usability study. Apply the topic of usability to programming. Compare and contrast the GME with three other industry mash-up editors.</span></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><span style="font-size:10;"></span></span> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </noscript> </div> </div> <div class='share'> <span class='twitter-custom social-wrapper' data-href='http://twitter.com/share?text=Google Testing Blog:Testing Google Mashup Editor Class&url=https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/10/testing-google-mashup-editor-class.html&via=googletesting'> <img alt='Share on Twitter' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_twitter_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> <span class='fb-custom social-wrapper' data-href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/10/testing-google-mashup-editor-class.html'> <img alt='Share on Facebook' height='24' src='https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/post_facebook_black_24dp.png' width='24'/> </span> </div> <div class='comment-container'> <i class='comment-img material-icons'>  </i> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/10/testing-google-mashup-editor-class.html#comments' style='font-weight: 500; text-decoration: underline;'>7 comments</a> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='cmt_iframe_holder' data-href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/10/testing-google-mashup-editor-class.html' data-viewtype='FILTERED_POSTMOD'></div> <a href='https://plus.google.com/112374322230920073195' rel='author' style='display:none;'> Google </a> <div class='label-footer'> <span class='labels-caption'> Labels: </span> <span class='labels'> <a class='label' href='https://testing.googleblog.com/search/label/Patrick%20Copeland' rel='tag'> Patrick Copeland </a> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='post' data-id='2053067868156320857' itemscope='' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <h2 class='title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://testing.googleblog.com/2007/09/seleniums-inventor.html' itemprop='url' title='Selenium's Inventor'> Selenium's Inventor </a> </h2> <div class='post-header'> <div class='published'> <span class='publishdate' itemprop='datePublished'> Wednesday, September 19, 2007 </span> </div> </div> <div class='post-body'> <div class='post-content' itemprop='articleBody'> <script type='text/template'> <span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Test Engineering Director<br /></span><br /><a href="//picasaweb.google.com/TestEngTeam/CodeGreen/photo?authkey=IA66TjDvtik#5112064269199230642"><img src="//lh6.google.com/TestEngTeam/RvGzXjKWRrI/AAAAAAAAADg/6n6WPe50yJQ/s400/big_logo.jpg"></a><br /></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" >We thought you might be interested in some articles from our internal monthly testing newsletter called CODE GREEN...<br /><br />Many projects at Google have started using or are considering using Selenium. We recently interviewed Noogler (new people to Google) Jason Huggins, who is the creator and developer of <a href="http://www.openqa.org/selenium/" target="_blank"><span style="color:green;">Selenium</span></a>, to learn about how it all started and where it's going. <o:p></o:p></span> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" >[Side note: Even before his first day at the Googleplex, Jason showed an amazing dedication to Google. After leaving <st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:city> with the big moving truck, he and his family had to stop after just a few hours because of an ice storm. Cars sliding off the road left and right. Further along, in <st1:state st="on"><st1:place st="on">Kansas</st1:place></st1:state>, one of his kids caught pneumonia. His family stayed in the local hospital while Jason drove on. Heading west, there was a big snow storm in <st1:state st="on"><st1:place st="on">Colorado</st1:place></st1:state>, which he wanted to avoid. He drove further south and ended up in a rare (but really real) <a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3?img_id=14141" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;color:green;" >dust storm over the Border States</span></a>. He promised us some great video footage of his drive through tumbleweeds. He finally arrived and has settled in and is looking forward to calmer times in the Bay Area. After that trip, he isn't even worried about earthquakes, fires, mud slides, or traffic on the 101.]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" >Couple of GTAC Videos with Jason: <a href="//youtube.com/watch?v=qxBatJ1N_Og">SeleniumRC</a></span><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family: arial;">, </span><a style="font-family: arial;" href="//youtube.com/watch?v=Vlz-WmcrBL8">Selenium vs WebDriver</a></span><br /><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Why did you invent Selenium? What was the motivation? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> Selenium was extracted from a web-based (Python + Plone!) time-and-expense (T&E) application my team and I were building for my previous employer. One of the mandates for the new T&E app was that it needed to be "fast, fast, fast." The legacy application was a client-server Lotus Notes application and wasn't scalable to the current number of offices and employees at the time. To live up to the "fast, fast, fast" design goal, we tried to improve and speed up the user experience as much as possible. For example, expense reports can get pretty long for people who travel a lot. No matter how many default rows we put in a blank expense form, people often needed to add more rows of expense items to their reports. So we added an "Add row" button to the expense report form. To make this "fast, fast, fast," I decided to use a button that triggered JavaScript to dynamically add one blank row to the form. At the time (Spring 2004), however, JavaScript was considered buggy and evil by most web developers, so I caught a lot of flak for not going with the classic approach of POSTing the form and triggering a complete page refresh with the current form data, plus one blank row.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >Going down the road of using JavaScript had consequences. For one, we had a really, really difficult time testing that little "Add row" button. And sadly, it broke often. One week "Add row" would be working in Mozilla (Firefox was pre-1.0), but broken in Internet Explorer. And of course, nothing was working in Safari since few developers were allowed to have Macs. ;-) The following week, we'd open a bug saying "'Add row' is broken in IE!!" The developer assigned to the issue would fix and test it in IE, but not test for regressions in Mozilla. So, "Add row" would now be broken in Mozilla, and I'd have to open a ticket saying "'Add row' is now broken in Mozilla!!!". Unlike most other corporate IT shops, we didn't have the luxury of telling all employees to use a single browser, and developers didn't want to manually test every feature in all supported browsers every time. Also, we had a very tiny budget and commercial testing tools were -- and still are -- ridiculously over-priced on a per-seat basis. The T&E project was done the "<st1:street st="on"><st1:address st="on">Agile Way</st1:address></st1:street>" -- every developer does testing -- so shelling out thousands of dollars per developer for a testing tool wasn't going to happen. Never mind the fact that there were no commercial tools that did what we needed anyway!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >After many months of trial and error and various code workarounds, I came to the conclusion I needed a testing tool that would let me functional-test JavaScript-enhanced web user interfaces (aka "DHTML" or now "<st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Ajax</st1:place></st1:city>"). More specifically, I needed to test the browser UIs: Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, and Safari. There were no commercial apps at the time that could do this, and the only open source option was JsUnit, which was more focused on unit testing pure JavaScript functions, rather than being a higher-level black-box/smoke-test walk through a web app. So we needed to write our own tool. Our first attempt was a Mozilla extension called "driftwood" (never <span style="font-size:100%;">released), coded by Andrew McCormick, another co-worker of mine at the time. It did make testing the "Add row" button possible, but since it was Mozilla-only, it wasn't what we needed for testing in all browsers. Paul Gross and I started over, and I started to educate myself on functional testing tools and techniques and stumbled upon Ward Cunningham's Framework for Integrated Testing (FIT). I originally set out to implement "FIT for JavaScript," but quickly realized we were drifting away from the FIT API, so Selenium became its own thing.</span></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Why does the world need another test tool?</span></b><b><span style="font-family:Arial;"><br />Huggins: </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >At the time I created Selenium, had there been another testing tool that could test JavaScript UI features in all browsers on all platforms, believe me, I would have saved lots of time *not* writing my own tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: What's special about it?</span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> Well, maybe the right question is "What's “lucky” about it? Selenium was created in a time when JavaScript was considered "bad" and generally avoided by most professional web developers. Then Google Maps hit the scene a year later, the term "<st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Ajax</st1:place></st1:city>" was coined, and BOOM! Overnight, JavaScript became "good." Also, Firefox started stealing market share from IE. The combination of needing to test 1) JavaScript features 2) in several browsers (not just IE) was a "right place, right time" moment for Selenium.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: When did you realize that Selenium was a big deal? What was the tipping point? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins: </b>When I started being asked to give presentations or write about Selenium by people I didn't know. The tipping point for Selenium technically relied on two things: 1) the Selenium IDE for Firefox, written by Shinya Kasatani, which made installation and the first-hour experience tons better for new users. And 2), Selenium Remote Control (RC) created by Paul Hammant, and extended by Dan Fabulich, Nelson Sproul, and Patrick Lightbody, which let developers write their tests in Java, C#, Perl, Python, or Ruby, and not have to write all their tests in the original FIT-like HTML tables. Socially, if Google Maps or Gmail never existed and thus the whole Ajax gold rush, I wonder if JavaScript would still be considered "bad," with a similar "why bother?" attitude to testing it. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Have you discovered any interesting teams using Selenium in ways you'd never intended? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> At my previous company, I did see some developers write Selenium scripts to create their time and expense reports for them from YAML or XLS files. Since we hadn't exposed a back-end API, automating the browser for data entry was the next best thing. It was never designed for this purpose, but I started (ab)using it as coded bug reports. Asking users for steps on how to reproduce a bug naturally lends itself to looking like a Selenium test for that bug. Also, I've used the Selenium IDE Firefox plug-in to enter NBC's "Deal or No Deal" contest on their website from home, but I stopped doing that when I read in the fine print that the use of automation tools to enter their contest was grounds for disqualification. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: What advice do you have to offer Google groups interested in Selenium?<br /></span></b><b><span style="font-family:Arial;">Huggins: </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:10;" ><span style="font-size:100%;">Well, one of the biggest drawbacks with user interface testing tools is that they're slow for various reasons. One way to bring the test run times down is to run them in parallel on a grid of servers, instead of sequentially. Of course, that isn't news to your average Googler. Engineers would be more likely to run automated browser UI tests if they could run 1000 tests in 1 minute total time on 1000 machines instead of 1000 tests in 1000 minutes on 1 machine. Sadly, though, most projects allocate only one machine, maybe two, to browser testing. I'm really excited to come to Google with the resources, the corporate interest, and the internal client base to make a large scale Selenium UI test farm possible. Eventually, I’d like to take Selenium in some new directions that we’ll talk about in later blog posts. But I'm getting ahead of myself. I have to survive Noogler training first.</span> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <span itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://plus.google.com/116899029375914044550' itemprop='url'/> </span> </script> <noscript> <span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">Posted by Patrick Copeland, Test Engineering Director<br /></span><br /><a href="//picasaweb.google.com/TestEngTeam/CodeGreen/photo?authkey=IA66TjDvtik#5112064269199230642"><img src="//lh6.google.com/TestEngTeam/RvGzXjKWRrI/AAAAAAAAADg/6n6WPe50yJQ/s400/big_logo.jpg"></a><br /></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" >We thought you might be interested in some articles from our internal monthly testing newsletter called CODE GREEN...<br /><br />Many projects at Google have started using or are considering using Selenium. We recently interviewed Noogler (new people to Google) Jason Huggins, who is the creator and developer of <a href="http://www.openqa.org/selenium/" target="_blank"><span style="color:green;">Selenium</span></a>, to learn about how it all started and where it's going. <o:p></o:p></span> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" >[Side note: Even before his first day at the Googleplex, Jason showed an amazing dedication to Google. After leaving <st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:city> with the big moving truck, he and his family had to stop after just a few hours because of an ice storm. Cars sliding off the road left and right. Further along, in <st1:state st="on"><st1:place st="on">Kansas</st1:place></st1:state>, one of his kids caught pneumonia. His family stayed in the local hospital while Jason drove on. Heading west, there was a big snow storm in <st1:state st="on"><st1:place st="on">Colorado</st1:place></st1:state>, which he wanted to avoid. He drove further south and ended up in a rare (but really real) <a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/natural_hazards_v2.php3?img_id=14141" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: none;color:green;" >dust storm over the Border States</span></a>. He promised us some great video footage of his drive through tumbleweeds. He finally arrived and has settled in and is looking forward to calmer times in the Bay Area. After that trip, he isn't even worried about earthquakes, fires, mud slides, or traffic on the 101.]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" >Couple of GTAC Videos with Jason: <a href="//youtube.com/watch?v=qxBatJ1N_Og">SeleniumRC</a></span><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family: arial;">, </span><a style="font-family: arial;" href="//youtube.com/watch?v=Vlz-WmcrBL8">Selenium vs WebDriver</a></span><br /><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;color:green;" ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Why did you invent Selenium? What was the motivation? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> Selenium was extracted from a web-based (Python + Plone!) time-and-expense (T&E) application my team and I were building for my previous employer. One of the mandates for the new T&E app was that it needed to be "fast, fast, fast." The legacy application was a client-server Lotus Notes application and wasn't scalable to the current number of offices and employees at the time. To live up to the "fast, fast, fast" design goal, we tried to improve and speed up the user experience as much as possible. For example, expense reports can get pretty long for people who travel a lot. No matter how many default rows we put in a blank expense form, people often needed to add more rows of expense items to their reports. So we added an "Add row" button to the expense report form. To make this "fast, fast, fast," I decided to use a button that triggered JavaScript to dynamically add one blank row to the form. At the time (Spring 2004), however, JavaScript was considered buggy and evil by most web developers, so I caught a lot of flak for not going with the classic approach of POSTing the form and triggering a complete page refresh with the current form data, plus one blank row.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >Going down the road of using JavaScript had consequences. For one, we had a really, really difficult time testing that little "Add row" button. And sadly, it broke often. One week "Add row" would be working in Mozilla (Firefox was pre-1.0), but broken in Internet Explorer. And of course, nothing was working in Safari since few developers were allowed to have Macs. ;-) The following week, we'd open a bug saying "'Add row' is broken in IE!!" The developer assigned to the issue would fix and test it in IE, but not test for regressions in Mozilla. So, "Add row" would now be broken in Mozilla, and I'd have to open a ticket saying "'Add row' is now broken in Mozilla!!!". Unlike most other corporate IT shops, we didn't have the luxury of telling all employees to use a single browser, and developers didn't want to manually test every feature in all supported browsers every time. Also, we had a very tiny budget and commercial testing tools were -- and still are -- ridiculously over-priced on a per-seat basis. The T&E project was done the "<st1:street st="on"><st1:address st="on">Agile Way</st1:address></st1:street>" -- every developer does testing -- so shelling out thousands of dollars per developer for a testing tool wasn't going to happen. Never mind the fact that there were no commercial tools that did what we needed anyway!<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >After many months of trial and error and various code workarounds, I came to the conclusion I needed a testing tool that would let me functional-test JavaScript-enhanced web user interfaces (aka "DHTML" or now "<st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Ajax</st1:place></st1:city>"). More specifically, I needed to test the browser UIs: Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, and Safari. There were no commercial apps at the time that could do this, and the only open source option was JsUnit, which was more focused on unit testing pure JavaScript functions, rather than being a higher-level black-box/smoke-test walk through a web app. So we needed to write our own tool. Our first attempt was a Mozilla extension called "driftwood" (never <span style="font-size:100%;">released), coded by Andrew McCormick, another co-worker of mine at the time. It did make testing the "Add row" button possible, but since it was Mozilla-only, it wasn't what we needed for testing in all browsers. Paul Gross and I started over, and I started to educate myself on functional testing tools and techniques and stumbled upon Ward Cunningham's Framework for Integrated Testing (FIT). I originally set out to implement "FIT for JavaScript," but quickly realized we were drifting away from the FIT API, so Selenium became its own thing.</span></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Why does the world need another test tool?</span></b><b><span style="font-family:Arial;"><br />Huggins: </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" >At the time I created Selenium, had there been another testing tool that could test JavaScript UI features in all browsers on all platforms, believe me, I would have saved lots of time *not* writing my own tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: What's special about it?</span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> Well, maybe the right question is "What's “lucky” about it? Selenium was created in a time when JavaScript was considered "bad" and generally avoided by most professional web developers. Then Google Maps hit the scene a year later, the term "<st1:city st="on"><st1:place st="on">Ajax</st1:place></st1:city>" was coined, and BOOM! Overnight, JavaScript became "good." Also, Firefox started stealing market share from IE. The combination of needing to test 1) JavaScript features 2) in several browsers (not just IE) was a "right place, right time" moment for Selenium.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: When did you realize that Selenium was a big deal? What was the tipping point? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins: </b>When I started being asked to give presentations or write about Selenium by people I didn't know. The tipping point for Selenium technically relied on two things: 1) the Selenium IDE for Firefox, written by Shinya Kasatani, which made installation and the first-hour experience tons better for new users. And 2), Selenium Remote Control (RC) created by Paul Hammant, and extended by Dan Fabulich, Nelson Sproul, and Patrick Lightbody, which let developers write their tests in Java, C#, Perl, Python, or Ruby, and not have to write all their tests in the original FIT-like HTML tables. Socially, if Google Maps or Gmail never existed and thus the whole Ajax gold rush, I wonder if JavaScript would still be considered "bad," with a similar "why bother?" attitude to testing it. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: Have you discovered any interesting teams using Selenium in ways you'd never intended? </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><b>Huggins:</b> At my previous company, I did see some developers write Selenium scripts to create their time and expense reports for them from YAML or XLS files. Since we hadn't exposed a back-end API, automating the browser for data entry was the next best thing. It was never designed for this purpose, but I started (ab)using it as coded bug reports. Asking users for steps on how to reproduce a bug naturally lends itself to looking like a Selenium test for that bug. Also, I've used the Selenium IDE Firefox plug-in to enter NBC's "Deal or No Deal" contest on their website from home, but I stopped doing that when I read in the fine print that the use of automation tools to enter their contest was grounds for disqualification. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style="font-size:100%;"><b><span style=";font-family:Arial;color:green;" >CG: What advice do you have to offer Google groups interested in Selenium?<br /></span></b><b><span style="font-family:Arial;">Huggins: </span></b></span><span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:10;" ><span style="font-size:100%;">Well, one of the biggest drawbacks with user interface testing tools is that they're slow for various reasons. One way to bring the test run times down is to run them in parallel on a grid of servers, instead of sequentially. Of course, that isn't news to your average Googler. Engineers would be more likely to run automated browser UI tests if they could run 1000 tests in 1 minute total time on 1000 machines instead of 1000 tests in 1000 minutes on 1 machine. Sadly, though, most projects allocate only one machine, maybe two, to browser testing. I'm really excited to come to Google with the resources, the corporate interest, and the internal client base to make a large scale Selenium UI test farm possible. Eventually, I’d like to take Selenium in some new directions that we’ll talk about in later blog posts. But I'm getting ahead of myself. 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