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aria-label="Apariencia"> <div id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">Apariencia</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">mover a la barra lateral</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">ocultar</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">De Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="es" dir="ltr"><p><br/> </p><p><br/> </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r161979998">.mw-parser-output .caja{background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f9f9f9);border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#aaa);box-sizing:border-box;clear:both;float:right;margin:0 0 0.5em 1em;width:255px}.mw-parser-output .caja-tabla{border-spacing:0;width:100%;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .caja-imagen,.mw-parser-output .caja-imagen-derecha{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .caja-texto{font-size:small;line-height:1.5em;padding:.5em}</style><div class="caja noprint infobox plainlinks" style="width: 120px;"> 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href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2015" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2015">/Archivo 2015</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2016" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2016">/Archivo 2016</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2017" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2017">/Archivo 2017</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2018" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2018">/Archivo 2018</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2019" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2019">/Archivo 2019</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2020" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2020">/Archivo 2020</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2021" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2021">/Archivo 2021</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2022" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2022">/Archivo 2022</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2023" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2023">/Archivo 2023</a></center> <center><a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado/Archivo_2024" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo 2024">/Archivo 2024</a></center> </div></td> </tr></tbody></table> </div> <div><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r162080723">.mw-parser-output .caja.auto-archivado{width:300px}.mw-parser-output .caja.auto-archivado .mw-collapsible{background-color:var(--background-color-base,#eaecf0);color:inherit;font-size:9px;line-height:1rem;padding:0 6px}@media only screen and (max-width:480px){.mw-parser-output .caja.auto-archivado{width:100%}}</style> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r161979998"><div class="caja noprint auto-archivado" style=";"> <table class="caja-tabla"><tbody><tr><td class="caja-imagen" style="padding-left:10px"><span class="skin-invert-image" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg/30px-Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg/45px-Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg/60px-Save_%2889536%29_-_The_Noun_Project.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></span></span></td> <td class="caja-texto" style="font-size:11px;">Esta p谩gina es <a href="/wiki/Plantilla:Archivado_autom%C3%A1tico" title="Plantilla:Archivado autom谩tico">archivada autom谩ticamente</a>. <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"> <p><b>Par谩metros del archivado</b>: </p> <dl><dd><b>Lugar</b>: Usuario Discusi贸n:Grabado/Archivo AAAA</dd> <dd><b>D铆as a mantener</b>: 30</dd> <dd><b>Avisar al archivar</b>: S铆</dd> <dd><b>Estrategia</b>: Firma m谩s reciente en la secci贸n</dd> <dd><b>Mantener caja de archivos</b>: S铆</dd></dl> </div></td> </tr></tbody></table> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apuestas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apuestas-20240911134300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apuestas-20240911134300"></span>Apuestas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apuestas-20240911134300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado&action=edit&section=1" title="Editar secci贸n: Apuestas"><span>editar</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Juan25-20240911134300-Apuestas"></span>Hola Grabado, en el mes de abril quitaste el enlace a las apuestas de la <a href="/wiki/Plantilla:%C3%9Altima_hora" title="Plantilla:脷ltima hora">Plantilla:脷ltima hora</a>. El hecho es que ese era el principal enlace de acceso a las apuestas y desde esa fecha que los usuarios no participan en ellas. Te pedir铆a por favor si la puedes volver a incluir. Un afectuoso saludo. <a href="/wiki/Usuario:Juan25" title="Usuario:Juan25">Juan25</a> <a href="/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Juan25" title="Usuario discusi贸n:Juan25">(discusi贸n)</a> <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_discusi%C3%B3n:Grabado#c-Juan25-20240911134300-Apuestas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43 11 sep 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Juan25-20240911134300-Apuestas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">responder</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Juan25-20240911134300-Apuestas"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grabado-20240912075600-Juan25-20240911134300"></span>Hola @<a href="/wiki/Usuario:Juan25" title="Usuario:Juan25">Juan25</a>. Con todo el respeto a la secci贸n de apuestas (yo he participado alguna que otra vez), considero que no tiene tanta relevancia como para estar pendientes de ellas como algo de <i>煤ltima hora</i> en la enciclopedia, al mismo nivel casi que las votaciones. Pero puedes preguntar en el caf茅, si quieres la opini贸n de la comunidad al respecto. 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