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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bible" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Bible</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Bible</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Bible</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Bible articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Clipboard.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1f/Clipboard.svg/40px-Clipboard.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1f/Clipboard.svg/60px-Clipboard.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1f/Clipboard.svg/80px-Clipboard.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This template was considered for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deletion</a> on <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2006-06-18">2006 June 18</span>. The result of the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_18#Template:Bibleverse" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 June 18">discussion</a></b> was "<b>withdrawn by nominator</b>".</td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NWT" data-mw-thread-id="h-NWT-20231219133700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NWT-20231219133700"></span>NWT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NWT-20231219133700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: NWT"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rodejong-20231219133700-NWT"></span>Would it be possible to add some of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/">these translations</a> as well? </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/American_Standard_Version" title="American Standard Version">American Standard Version</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Bible_in_Living_English" title="The Bible in Living English">The Bible in Living English</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=The_Emphasized_Bible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="The Emphasized Bible (page does not exist)">The Emphasized Bible</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/King_James_Version" title="King James Version">King James Version</a> (Red Minion)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Kingdom_Interlinear_Translation_of_the_Greek_Scriptures" title="The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures">The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures" class="mw-redirect" title="New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures">New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures</a> (1984 and 2013 Edition)</li></ul> <p>Would be handy for the Series on Jehovah's Witnesses, where none of the scriptures can be linked through <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Bibleverse" title="Template:Bibleverse">bibleverse</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> as to compare these scriptures. We made a template with all these versions linking to each version for our own wiki, which could be used here as well, but this version works with a module and ours doesn't. </p><p>Hope to hear from you soon! <span style="font-family:tahoma">Kind regards, <span style="background:#D2691E"> <a href="/wiki/User:Rodejong" title="User:Rodejong"><span style="color:white"><b>Rodejong</b></span></a> </span></span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rodejong" title="User talk:Rodejong">💬</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Rodejong" title="Special:EmailUser/Rodejong">✉️</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Rodejong-20231219133700-NWT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rodejong-20231219133700-NWT"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rodejong-20231219133700-NWT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_produces_incomplete_referencing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing-20231230093100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing-20231230093100"></span>Template produces incomplete referencing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing-20231230093100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Template produces incomplete referencing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GraemeLeggett-20231230093100-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing"></span>The template outputs Book chapter and verse but does not show the bible version. <a href="/wiki/User:GraemeLeggett" title="User:GraemeLeggett">GraemeLeggett</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GraemeLeggett" title="User talk:GraemeLeggett">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-GraemeLeggett-20231230093100-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GraemeLeggett-20231230093100-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GraemeLeggett-20231230093100-Template_produces_incomplete_referencing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl-20240102024100"><span id="Discussion_at_WP:ELN_.C2.A7_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl-20240102024100"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELN#Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELN">WP:ELN § Templates being used to embed external links into articles</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl-20240102024100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Discussion at WP:ELN § Templates being used to embed external links into articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20240102024100-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/25px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/38px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/50px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ELN#Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ELN">WP:ELN § Templates being used to embed external links into articles</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Marchjuly-20240102024100-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20240102024100-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20240102024100-Discussion_at_WP:ELN_§_Templates_being_used_to_embed_external_links_into_articl"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vulgata_Clementina" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vulgata_Clementina-20240324195600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vulgata_Clementina-20240324195600"></span>Vulgata Clementina<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vulgata_Clementina-20240324195600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Vulgata Clementina"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JimKillock-20240324195600-Vulgata_Clementina"></span>Noting this is at <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/la:Vulgata_Clementina" class="extiw" title="wikisource:la:Vulgata Clementina">Wikisource:la:Vulgata Clementina</a> but not yet supported here; does LA WS need to do anything to make this possible? <a href="/wiki/User:JimKillock" title="User:JimKillock">Jim Killock</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JimKillock" title="User talk:JimKillock">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-JimKillock-20240324195600-Vulgata_Clementina" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JimKillock-20240324195600-Vulgata_Clementina"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JimKillock-20240324195600-Vulgata_Clementina"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240324202100-JimKillock-20240324195600"></span>I suppose my first question would be whether anyone is actually going to link to a Latin bible edition on enWiki (especially when we have five versions in English to link to). <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Primefac-20240324202100-JimKillock-20240324195600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240324202100-JimKillock-20240324195600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240324202100-JimKillock-20240324195600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="First_parameter_as_book_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_parameter_as_book_number-20240626234100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_parameter_as_book_number-20240626234100"></span>First parameter as book number<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_parameter_as_book_number-20240626234100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: First parameter as book number"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20240626234100-First_parameter_as_book_number"></span>Although it is no longer documented, for <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Bibleverse/doc&oldid=583169835#Usage">backwards compatibility</a>, this template can use the first parameter as a book number, eg.: </p> <table style="margin-top:0;margin-left:0; border-width:medium; padding:0;"> <tbody><tr> <th scope="col" style="width:50%;">Markup</th> <th scope="col" style="width:50%;">Renders as </th></tr> <tr> <td style="background:#f8f9fa; background:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa); color:var(--color-base, #000); border:1px solid #eaecf0; padding:9px 5px 5px; vertical-align:top;"><pre style="margin:0; border:none; padding:0; word-wrap:break-word; white-space:-moz-pre-wrap; white-space:-o-pre-wrap; white-space:-pre-wrap; white-space:pre-wrap; ">{{Bibleverse|1|Samuel|3:16-4:18}}</pre> </td> <td style="background:#f8f9fa; background:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa); color:var(--color-base, #000); border:1px solid #eaecf0; padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"><div style=""> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bible.oremus.org/?passage=1%20Samuel%203:16–4:18&version=nrsv">1 Samuel 3:16–4:18</a> </p> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background:#f8f9fa; background:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa); color:var(--color-base, #000); border:1px solid #eaecf0; padding:9px 5px 5px; vertical-align:top;"><pre style="margin:0; border:none; padding:0; word-wrap:break-word; white-space:-moz-pre-wrap; white-space:-o-pre-wrap; white-space:-pre-wrap; white-space:pre-wrap; ">{{Bibleverse|1 Samuel|3:16-4:18}}</pre> </td> <td style="background:#f8f9fa; background:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle, #f8f9fa); color:var(--color-base, #000); border:1px solid #eaecf0; padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"><div style=""> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bible.oremus.org/?passage=1%20Samuel%203:16–4:18&version=nrsv">1 Samuel 3:16–4:18</a> </p> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-width:1px;border-style: none none none;border-color:#ddd; padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"> </td> <td style="border-width:1px;border-style: none none none;border-color:#ddd; padding:5px; vertical-align:top;"> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Because of this, some transclusions of this template leave the first parameter blank. This feature is deprecated and may be removed in the future. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Daask-20240626234100-First_parameter_as_book_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20240626234100-First_parameter_as_book_number"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20240626234100-First_parameter_as_book_number"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20240627011400-Daask-20240626234100"></span>Just because something is optional doesn't necessarily mean that it's deprecated; usually when something is deprecated there is a note saying as such, tracking categories set up, and an active push made to eliminate those uses. That does not seem to be the case here. If it works both ways, I see no reason to change it. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Primefac-20240627011400-Daask-20240626234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20240627011400-Daask-20240626234100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20240627011400-Daask-20240626234100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240627203700-Primefac-20240627011400"></span>If you look at the code (see the section with the comment "first argument is a numeric prefix and second is book name"), you can see that it is by design. Wikilinking the book name even works: <a href="/wiki/1_Samuel" class="mw-redirect" title="1 Samuel">1 Samuel</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bible.oremus.org/?passage=1%20Samuel%201:15–16&version=nrsv">1:15–16</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Bibleverse#c-Jonesey95-20240627203700-Primefac-20240627011400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240627203700-Primefac-20240627011400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240627203700-Primefac-20240627011400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&oldid=1231345632">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bibleverse&oldid=1231345632</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Bible_articles" title="Category:Template-Class Bible articles">Template-Class Bible articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Bible_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Bible articles">NA-importance Bible articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Bible_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Bible articles">WikiProject Bible articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 June 2024, at 20:37<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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