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</li> <li id="toc-The_page_"Per_Villand"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_page_"Per_Villand""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>The page "Per Villand"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_page_"Per_Villand"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Sourced_info"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Sourced_info""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>"Sourced info"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-"Sourced_info"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Userfy_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Userfy_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Userfy request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Userfy_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>The European Association of Development Research and Training Institutes deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bihari_Puraskar_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Bihari Puraskar deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Deleted draft: Crop Science Society of America</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Deleted Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Confused_about_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Confused_about_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Confused about edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">10 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Confused_about_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Bot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merge_of_AfD" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merge_of_AfD"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Merge of AfD</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merge_of_AfD-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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href="#Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Deletion review for Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Gandy (author)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_of_ResetEra" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_of_ResetEra"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Deletion of ResetEra</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_of_ResetEra-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girls' Frontline</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ISO_4_redirects" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" 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vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Biological_Communications"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Biological Communications</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Biological_Communications-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-UAP" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#UAP"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>UAP</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-UAP-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk_pages_consultation_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Talk pages consultation 2019</span> </div> </a> <span 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Journalism_Practice_Scope" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Journalism_Practice_Scope"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Journalism Practice Scope</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Journalism_Practice_Scope-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_sourcing" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_sourcing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Regarding sourcing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_sourcing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_21" title="User talk:Randykitty/Archive 21">Archive 21</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_22" title="User talk:Randykitty/Archive 22">Archive 22</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 23</a></span></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_24" title="User talk:Randykitty/Archive 24">Archive 24</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_25" title="User talk:Randykitty/Archive 25">Archive 25</a></td><td>→</td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_30" title="User talk:Randykitty/Archive 30">Archive 30</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thorley_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thorley_needed-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thorley_needed-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"></span>Thorley needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thorley_needed-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z-Thorley_needed"></span>Two votes for deletion, including the nominator, &, what, 5 to keep, & you call it "no consensus"? After <i>two</i> relistings? What would it take? 20 to keep? Or for somebody else to have created the page? <a href="/wiki/User:Trekphiler" title="User:Trekphiler"><span style="font-family: cursive; color: #1DACD6;">TREKphiler</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trekphiler" title="User talk:Trekphiler"><sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">any time you're ready, Uhura</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z-Thorley_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 25 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z-Thorley_needed"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z-Thorley_needed"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:09:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"></span>I already wondered how long it would take you to come here to yell at me (again). I <i>strongly</i> recommend that you tone it down a bit. Your participation in that AFD was overly aggressive, which you should know does not really help the case you are making. And this seems to be a problem more general than this particular AfD. I didn't go through your contributions, but did look up the article you mentioned near the end of the discussion and the tag you placed on it would be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">personal attack</a> if, in fact, somebody actually recently had put a notability tag there. Getting back to the closure, if you're unhappy by it, please go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:09:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 25 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:09:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:09:00.000Z-Trekphiler-2018-12-25T17:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Scientometrics_(journal)_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"><span id="Scientometrics_.28journal.29_issues"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Scientometrics (journal) issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues"></span>Hi Randykitty, I greatly appreciate your arduous efforts to create and maintain articles on journals and scientists. Thanks for your explanation of the revisions you made on my changes of the Scientometrics (journal) article. As it is said in German: "verstanden aber nicht einverstanden" (understood but not agreed). (1) The journal infobox template contains the label "Edited by". According to the definition of this infobox (<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_journal">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_journal</a>), it is supposed to contain the parameter editor=Name of journal's editor. I can accept that only the EiC's name is supposed to be indicated in the infobox, but then this fact should be reflected in the label and also in the template definition. As a practicing editor of several journals in the last four decades, I have the feeling that the label "Edited by" is an unfortunate choice whatever are your intentions. A scientific journal is never (or very rarely) "Edited by" a single person. If you want to have the EiC in the infobox, then it should be explicitly stated. (I just mention that in the article about our closest relative, the Journal of Informetrics, the founding editor is in the infobox and the EiC is only in the text.) (2) I witnessed the history of our journal from the very beginning, cooperating with partners from Elsevier-Sequoia, Kluwer and Springer. I browsed through thousands of formal and informal documents, and I am in daily correspondence with various Springer colleagues until today. I dare say that I never met "Springer Science+Business Media" designation in any letterhead, signature or any other place. It was Springer or Springer Verlag before, and it is Springer Nature since the merger. Springer Nature stands, among others, in the official Springer website of the journal. I don't doubt that Springer Science+Business Media is still an existing imprint, but in relation to Scientometrics I don't see any reason to use it. Of course, I am willing to change my opinion if you have any convincing argument. (3) I find it rather embarrassing that from the history of a 40 year old journal, the only highlighted event is an unfortunate retraction case. Unfortunately, there were several retracted papers during the decades but, obviously, this one gained dubious notoriety because of Jeffrey Beall's rather unfair, unethical and misleading blogpost. A post in a blog which was later removed (retracted?) by its author. I wonder whether such a source is considered reliable according to the Wikipedia standards. I would be more than honored if my concerns would be reassuringly replied. Regards, András <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Schubaa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Schubaa (page does not exist)">Schubaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schubaa" title="User talk:Schubaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z-Scientometrics_(journal)_issues"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:51:00.000Z-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"></span>Dear András/<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Schubaa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Schubaa (page does not exist)">Schubaa</a>, thanks for your note and sorry for the slow response. 1/ As indicated in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JWG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JWG">WP:JWG</a>, we list the EIC of a journal and other people (associate/managing editors, board members) only if there are reliable independent sources that document their contributions to the journal. You could propose on the talk page of the journal infobox remplate to clarify the labelling if you really feel that this is an issue. As for other journal articles, when I have a moment I'll have a look at the article on the <i><a href="/wiki/Journal_of_Informetrics" title="Journal of Informetrics">Journal of Informetrics</a></i>, but given the huge number of articles that we now have on WP, it is unavoidable that some are not up to par. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAX">WP:WAX</a> (or, less reverently, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERCRAPEXISTS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERCRAPEXISTS">WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS</a>. 2/ All information still says that Springer Science+Business Media is now "part of Springer Nature", meaning that the imprint has not been discarded. We categorize journals according to imprint (for example, we still categorize <a href="/wiki/Routledge" title="Routledge">Routledge</a> journals as such, even though this company is now part of <a href="/wiki/Taylor_%26_Francis" title="Taylor & Francis">Taylor & Francis</a>. I agree that Springer is a bit messier than Routledge, but for the moment see no reason to recategorize all Springer journals as "Springer Nature". Note that all "Nature" journals are categorized as "Nature Research", not "Springer Nature". 3/ Beall's blog is regarded to be a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable source</a>. His frankness made him a lot of enemies, that's clear. His blog was most certainly not retracted, but closed down because of strong pressure from Beall's enemies. It is indeed unfortunate that this is the only event concerning the journal that has been written about, but WP goes by what the sources say. If you are aware of any other coverage of the journal, do let me know and we'll add it to the article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:51:00.000Z-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 25 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:51:00.000Z-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-25T18:51:00.000Z-Schubaa-2018-12-19T23:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_neuroscience_journals" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_neuroscience_journals-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_neuroscience_journals-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/List_of_neuroscience_journals" title="List of neuroscience journals">List of neuroscience journals</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_neuroscience_journals-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z-List_of_neuroscience_journals"></span>Thought you might wanna have a look at this; I created it shortly before (maybe after) you took your break a few months ago (which I was unpleasantly surprised to find about shortly thereafter). <a href="/wiki/User:IntoThinAir" title="User:IntoThinAir">IntoThinAir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IntoThinAir" title="User talk:IntoThinAir">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z-List_of_neuroscience_journals" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 26 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z-List_of_neuroscience_journals"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z-List_of_neuroscience_journals"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T10:32:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Nice start. Thanks for letting me know about this. I've watchlisted it, because lists are often targetted by spammers for predatory journals. And as you see, I'm back :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T10:32:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 27 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T10:32:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T10:32:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2018-12-26T21:45:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_help_on_Indian_football_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Need help on Indian football article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article"></span>Hey, sorry to bother you but I really need some help dealing with a user on the <a href="/wiki/India_national_football_team" title="India national football team">India national football team</a>. Dey Subrata has honestly been insufferable, comes across as tooting his own horn, obviously doesn't know how to differentiate a blog from an encyclopedia, doesn't understand the need for proper source verification, and doesn't know proper English grammar. He has accused me of ownership of the article when that is not true, I work with many other editors all the time and don't remove their edits otherwise that would be ownership. He is currently adding what I believe is a copyrighted image of a kit on the page, information on a new kit which is unneeded, and added in a line about why India doesn't use orange because of neighboring countries despite the source given only citing Pakistan. Whenever confronted about it, he just says "gives clear view" and that we see "bhutan bangladesh or nepal wear those colours"... but this is an encycopedia and he needs to source that that is why we do this. If you can, just look through the talk pages here and help out. I tried to reach out to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Football" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Football">WP:Football</a> but nothing yet. --<a href="/wiki/User:ArsenalFan700" title="User:ArsenalFan700">ArsenalFan700</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArsenalFan700" title="User talk:ArsenalFan700">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z-Need_help_on_Indian_football_article"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span>Hi, sorry, but I know next to nothing of sports and don't edit such articles. If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Football">Wikipedia:WikiProject Football</a> is not responsive (but it looks like somebody just reverted Dey), you could try the India project. I can have a look at the image if you can give me the file name and the place where it's been copied from. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T14:57:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z"></span>Hey, no, it's fine. It is just the hectic Christmas schedule right now and I really don't have the time or energy to deal with users like that. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:India_national_team_jersey_home_2019.jpg">here</a> is the link to the picture and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.six5six.in/index.php?route=common/sport">here</a> is where it was taken from. Doesn't seem right but you would probably be a better judge than me. --<a href="/wiki/User:ArsenalFan700" title="User:ArsenalFan700">ArsenalFan700</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArsenalFan700" title="User talk:ArsenalFan700">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 27 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-27T15:56:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T16:49:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z"></span>I proposed it for speedy deletion as copyvio, but we'll jave to see what the closing admin says, as I'm not certain that those criteria are actually applicable. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T16:49:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 27 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T16:49:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-27T16:49:00.000Z-ArsenalFan700-2018-12-27T16:35:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"><span id="What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"></span>What Is Promotional About This Article?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?"></span>I am working on a project identifying Civil Rights Leaders and this individual was chosen by a group of Civil Rights Activists. I have made all adjustments to the article that previous people has asked. Please advise. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ForeverJustice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ForeverJustice (page does not exist)">ForeverJustice</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ForeverJustice#top" title="User talk:ForeverJustice">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ForeverJustice" title="Special:Contributions/ForeverJustice">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z-What_Is_Promotional_About_This_Article?"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"></span>The whole article reads like an advert for this person. Any tiny life-event is listed. Every in-passing mention in any local journal is referenced, whether it is important or not (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_bombing" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Reference bombing">WP:Reference bombing</a>). I had a look at the first 7 references, none of them substantial, and then gave up. All this makes it difficult to see if there is, in fact, any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">notability</a> here. Just being the president of the local chapter of a national organization and being its spokesperson does not make somebody notable. If you think this might pass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANYBIO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANYBIO">WP:ANYBIO</a>, then you should pare this down considerably, cut out all the fluff, and reduce the huge amount of references to those that are really substantial. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:15, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span>I have conducted extensive research on this individual and found him to be notable locally, statewide and nationally. Are you able to edit the article like you mentioned so it meets the criteria? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ForeverJustice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ForeverJustice (page does not exist)">ForeverJustice</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ForeverJustice" title="User talk:ForeverJustice">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span>I have looked at many Wikipedia articles to see what Wikipedia is looking for in an article and tried to mirror that on this article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ForeverJustice&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ForeverJustice (page does not exist)">ForeverJustice</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ForeverJustice" title="User talk:ForeverJustice">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z-Randykitty-2018-12-30T19:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z"></span>(Saw this in the Pending AfC queue) - Regardless if this should have been speedied or not, the topic doesn't meet notability. I did a check of many of the sources and a quick look on my own and could not find anything significant. Even if the draft is not deleted, I don't see how this would ever be approved as an article as there is no significant coverage in reliable sources. Brief mentions don't add up to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:CNMall41" title="User:CNMall41">CNMall41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CNMall41" title="User talk:CNMall41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z-ForeverJustice-2018-12-30T19:34:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T23:19:00.000Z-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z"></span>I agree completely with CNMall41. You'll need way more sunbstantial sources to show notability here. Sorry about that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T23:19:00.000Z-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T23:19:00.000Z-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2018-12-30T23:19:00.000Z-CNMall41-2018-12-30T20:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks...-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks...-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks...-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blue_Square_Thing-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z-Thanks..."></span>...for tidying up links after you closed a handful of cricket related AfD earlier today. I appreciate the work that involved (and it doesn't always seem to get done). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Blue_Square_Thing&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Blue Square Thing (page does not exist)">Blue Square Thing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blue_Square_Thing" title="User talk:Blue Square Thing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Blue_Square_Thing-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z-Thanks..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 1 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blue_Square_Thing-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z-Thanks..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blue_Square_Thing-2019-01-01T20:25:00.000Z-Thanks..."></span> </p> <ul><li>Thanks and you're welcome, but partly I don't deserve this praise. We have a script that does all this stuff semi-automatically and it's only a few clicks to do the cleanup... :-)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z"><span id="Administrators.27_newsletter_.E2.80.93_January_2019"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Administrators' newsletter – January 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" 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title="Special:PermanentLink/872001823"> Davidruben</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872001823#Inactive_admins_for_December_2018" title="Special:PermanentLink/872001823">Ocee</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872230620#another_inactivity_issue" title="Special:PermanentLink/872230620">Revolving Bugbear</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872001823#Inactive_admins_for_December_2018" title="Special:PermanentLink/872001823">Theda</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/873395906#Desysop_request_(There'sNoTime)" title="Special:PermanentLink/873395906">There'sNoTime</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872001823#Inactive_admins_for_December_2018" title="Special:PermanentLink/872001823">Timc</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872633174#Desysop_Request_-_Tijuana_Brass" title="Special:PermanentLink/872633174">Tijuana Brass</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/872001823#Inactive_admins_for_December_2018" title="Special:PermanentLink/872001823">Tristessa de St Ange</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/20px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/30px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/40px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Bureaucrat changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" 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A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Blocking_policy#RfC:_blocking_the_admin_who_blocked_you" title="Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy">request for comment</a> is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.</li> <li><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Copyvio-revdel" title="Template:Copyvio-revdel">Copyvio-revdel</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> now has a link to open the history with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RevDel" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RevDel">RevDel</a> checkboxes already filled in.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>Following the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2018#Results" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2018">2018 Arbitration Committee elections</a>, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AGK">AGK</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Courcelles">Courcelles</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GorillaWarfare">GorillaWarfare</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Joe_Roe">Joe Roe</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mkdw">Mkdw</a></span>, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SilkTork">SilkTork</a></span>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. 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margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-01-01T21:39:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_January_2019"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"><span id="Algebraic_Combinatorics_.28journal.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)" title="Algebraic Combinatorics (journal)">Algebraic Combinatorics (journal)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)"></span>Hi RandyKitty, </p><p>Possibly you remember <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Archive_5#Draft:Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Academic Journals/Archive 5">this discussion</a> from early last year. Recently one of the editors of Algebraic Combinatorics contacted me to inquire whether the notability situation for the journal has changed sufficiently to support its own article. The relevant details seem to be that the journal is now indexed in <a href="/wiki/MathSciNet" title="MathSciNet">MathSciNet</a> and <a href="/wiki/ZbMATH" class="mw-redirect" title="ZbMATH">ZbMATH</a>, in addition to the coverage of its founding in <i>Inside Higher Ed</i>. Any thoughts? </p><p>(Based on your past comments on other journals, I know that you typically look for inclusion in Scopus as the gold standard of notability. I don't understand Scopus well because it's not important inside mathematics, but I gather that a journal has to be up and running for several years to be listed there -- is that right?) </p><p>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Joel B. Lewis">JBL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Joel B. Lewis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z-Algebraic_Combinatorics_(journal)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WPMATH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WPMATH"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T06:33:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span>WP:WPMATH</a> has historically regarded indexing in both MathSciNet and ZbMath as sufficient. If you've got coverage of founding on top of that, that's a good indicator that it would be kept at AFD. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T06:33:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T06:33:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T06:33:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span>It's kind of minimal, but as Headbomb says, it would likely squeeze by an AfD. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T04:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z"></span>Thanks both for your input. --<a href="/wiki/User:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Joel B. Lewis">JBL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Joel B. Lewis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-02T10:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z"></span>Note that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://miar.ub.edu/issn/2589-5486">MIAR: 2589-5486</a> says it's not in MathSciNet though... Could just be out of date however. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T16:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T17:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z"></span>Just out of date, I think; when I log in to MR I find it (and all of its articles) listed. If you have credentials, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://mathscinet.ams.org/mathscinet/search/journaldoc.html?id=9279">this</a> should be the relevant page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Joel B. Lewis">JBL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joel_B._Lewis" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Joel B. Lewis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T17:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T17:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joel_B._Lewis-2019-01-02T17:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-01-02T17:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_page_"Per_Villand"" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_page_"Per_Villand"-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"><span id="The_page_.22Per_Villand.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_page_"Per_Villand"-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"></span>The page "Per Villand"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_page_"Per_Villand"-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z-The_page_"Per_Villand""></span>Coincidentally I discovered that the page "Per Villand", in which has been put lots of time and effort, has been removed. Since I have been the creator, I would have appreciated it if somebody would have sent me a message about it, before deleting. I did not receive any warning, or message. Not either that the page, Hovet, Buskerud, which I created, has been edited, especially there where is referred to Per Villand. Can somebody explain to me why this has been kept hidden from me? --<a href="/wiki/User:DutchColours" title="User:DutchColours">DutchColours</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DutchColours" title="User talk:DutchColours">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z-The_page_"Per_Villand"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 4 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z-The_page_"Per_Villand""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z-The_page_"Per_Villand""></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T19:07:00.000Z-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"></span>I closed the deletion discussion, but was unaware of the fact that the nom (<a href="/wiki/User:Geschichte" title="User:Geschichte">Geschichte</a>) for some reason did not notify you. That doesn't change much, though. Even if you had !voted "keep" in the debate, the outcome would likely have been the same, unless you would have come up with better in-depth independent sources. As for the article <a href="/wiki/Hovet,_Buskerud" title="Hovet, Buskerud">Hovet, Buskerud</a>, it is quite normal to edit an article without notifying previous editors. After all, nobody <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">owns</a> an article. As <a href="/w/index.php?title=Per_Villand&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Per Villand (page does not exist)">Per Villand</a> had been deleted, it is standard procedure to remove links to it and remove it from lists, as was done here (we even have an automated script to do this, that's how routine this is). Hope this explains. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T19:07:00.000Z-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T19:07:00.000Z-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T19:07:00.000Z-DutchColours-2019-01-04T15:38:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Sourced_info"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Sourced_info"-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"><span id=".22Sourced_info.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Sourced_info"-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span>"Sourced info"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Sourced_info"-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MDPI&type=revision&diff=876826522&oldid=876822101"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z-"Sourced_info""></span>[1]</a> is sourced almost entirely feromt heir own marketing claims, and the company has a far from stellar reputation. We should avoid self-published sources when theya re self-serving and where the subject is controversial, as is the case here. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JzG" title="User talk:JzG">Guy</a></b> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:JzG/help" title="User:JzG/help">Help!</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z-"Sourced_info"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z-"Sourced_info""></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z-"Sourced_info""></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T23:18:00.000Z-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span>This is indeed a crappy company. Still, their journals <i>are</i> in Scopus and Clarivate (ex ISIS) databases and mentioning that in the article seems to be warranted. Yes, it's sourced to the company, but it can easily be verified by looking at the Scopus sources or the Clarivate master list. That can also be referenced, but I don't think that it would be useful to have dozens of references to the NLM catalog, for example. (To get this in a single reference we could link to the results of a search for "MDPI", of course, but that is undesirable, too). So unless somebody shows that the company is lying and listing false info, I don't see why it can't stay. It's formulated rather NPOV, I think, and is just simple factual info. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T23:18:00.000Z-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T23:18:00.000Z-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-04T23:18:00.000Z-JzG-2019-01-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"><span id="Mankind_Quarterly_.28MQ.29_Controversy"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"></span>Mankind Quarterly (MQ) Controversy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy"></span>Hello Randykitty, </p><p>I recently came across your writings in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mankind_Quarterly">[2]</a>, where you offered an alternative opener for the MQ journal in section "peer-reviewed academic journal". I was wondering if you could please share your opinion to the responses that came after your suggestion, as I'm trying to resolve the issue(s) the deletionist had with the article. You seem very level-headed, and I'm hoping your fair alternative ("academic journal" and "peer-reviewed" are factual descriptors) can be implemented soon. </p><p>Thanks, <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC" title="Special:Contributions/2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC">2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC#top" title="User talk:2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z-Mankind_Quarterly_(MQ)_Controversy"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-07T09:40:00.000Z-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"></span>Hi, please keep the discussion centralized on the MQ talk page. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-07T09:40:00.000Z-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-07T09:40:00.000Z-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-07T09:40:00.000Z-2601:42:800:A9DB:E1F6:B033:856E:A1AC-2019-01-07T06:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfD" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfD-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfD-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z"></span>AfD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfD-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shashank5988-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z-AfD"></span>About <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bihari_Puraskar" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bihari Puraskar">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bihari_Puraskar</a>. I think you had to check the nomination at first, which was misleading since notability of an award was being discussed, not organisation. To say the award fails "WP:NORG" was misleading in itself. Finally, how the sources, including <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/noted-writer-vijay-verma-awardedbihari-puraskar/story-6Ycs7FWPOlNgqK0DWyZoWK.html">this one</a> was a "press release"? The analysis table was also misleading. <a href="/wiki/User:Shashank5988" title="User:Shashank5988">Shashank5988</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shashank5988" title="User talk:Shashank5988">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Shashank5988-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z-AfD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shashank5988-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z-AfD"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shashank5988-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z-AfD"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-07T17:06:00.000Z-Shashank5988-2019-01-07T17:04:00.000Z"></span>I stand by the close. 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Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:NavjotSR" title="User:NavjotSR">NavjotSR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NavjotSR" title="User talk:NavjotSR">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z-Userfy_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 8 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z-Userfy_request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z-Userfy_request"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z"></span>No, sorry. The AfD was unanimous that this didn't meet our inclusion criteria and despite extensive searches no good sources were found. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z-NavjotSR-2019-01-08T14:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NavjotSR-2019-01-09T04:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span>Userfied at <a href="/wiki/User:NavjotSR/Mitra_Samaj" title="User:NavjotSR/Mitra Samaj">User:NavjotSR/Mitra_Samaj</a>, but note that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Userfication" title="Wikipedia:Userfication">Wikipedia:Userfication</a> allows this. <a href="/wiki/User:NavjotSR" title="User:NavjotSR">NavjotSR</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NavjotSR" title="User talk:NavjotSR">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-NavjotSR-2019-01-09T04:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NavjotSR-2019-01-09T04:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NavjotSR-2019-01-09T04:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-08T14:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"></span>The European Association of Development Research and Training Institutes deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span>Hello. This is in relation to my recent edit of The European Association of Development Research and Training Institutes (EADI) being deleted because of a conflict of interest. I no longer work for this company, nor did I ever officially, only a few month long internship. All the updated information that I included is very general and neutral, and can be confirmed by the website. The information that is displayed now is outdated and incorrect, hence why I wanted to change it. Please let me know what else I can do to have my edits approved. Thanks! Jordan. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jordandevenish&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jordandevenish (page does not exist)">Jordandevenish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jordandevenish#top" title="User talk:Jordandevenish">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jordandevenish" title="Special:Contributions/Jordandevenish">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T12:27:00.000Z-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"></span>There were numerous problems with those edits, the least of which was that you destroyed the correct formatting of the page (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a>). Then you inserted a long list of working groups (each with a "reference" to its page on the organization's own website) and a list of members (all with inappropriate in-lin external links, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EL">WP:EL</a>). WP is not a web host, this kind of stuff does not belong in an encyclopedic article but on the organization's own website (see also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTADIRECTORY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTADIRECTORY">WP:NOTADIRECTORY</a>. And, frankly, I find it quite weird that in your last edit summary on that article you claimed to be working for this organization, but after I warned you about that you now suddenly deny that... If there is outdated or incorrect info in the article, then post a note on the talk page and we'll see what can be done. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T12:27:00.000Z-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T12:27:00.000Z-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T12:27:00.000Z-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T12:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T13:00:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span>Thanks for your response, I didn't know I destroyed the formatting and understand that it shouldn't be a directory page. Will keep that in mind with future edits. I will note what is incorrect and outdated on the talk page, thanks. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jordandevenish&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jordandevenish (page does not exist)">Jordandevenish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jordandevenish#top" title="User talk:Jordandevenish">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jordandevenish" title="Special:Contributions/Jordandevenish">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T13:00:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T13:00:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jordandevenish-2019-01-10T13:00:00.000Z-The_European_Association_of_Development_Research_and_Training_Institutes_deletio"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bihari_Puraskar_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"></span>Bihari Puraskar deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion"></span>Greetings! </p><p>This is with respect to the deletion of Article Bihari Puraskar. I was unable to contribute to the discussion and deliberations last week when the article discussions happened and conclusions reached. My apologies. </p><p>I do believe it is an important state level award and has coverage annually in multiple mainstream Indian English media outlets as well since at least 2009. The award is itself in its 27th year and is given for the state <a href="/wiki/Rajasthan" title="Rajasthan">Rajasthan</a>, a state that has a population almost comparable to <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a>. We are a country with 29 states (and many more languages) and it is often hard for mainstream english media to find space for state level award articles elaborately. Coverage for the article would surely be more in vernacular media than English media. Besides in the sub continent, there is often systemic bias and limited coverage in the "ratings hungry" media for topics like literature while cinema, sport and politics take the lions share. Also, even the most sought after awards have limited coverage and independent stories on the winners. State media tend to go with the Press release from PTI or ANI. I can relate to this from my experience of editing article for the key <a href="/wiki/Rajyotsava_Awards_(2014)" title="Rajyotsava Awards (2014)">Rajyotsava awards</a> state awards for the state of <a href="/wiki/Karnataka" title="Karnataka">Karnataka</a>. But this does not make a few of these awards any less important. This is the context and peculiarity of Indian media coverage of state awards. </p><p>I hope a review of this decision could be made at an appropriate time. I genuinely believe vernacular awards need more support and attention from the general public and also wikipedia editors and articles and as well. Thank you. </p><p>best regards <a href="/wiki/User:Arunram" title="User:Arunram">Arunram</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arunram" title="User talk:Arunram">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z-Bihari_Puraskar_deletion"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"></span>Hi, unless I miss something, it looks to me like these issues weer already discussed in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bihari_Puraskar" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bihari Puraskar">debate</a>. AFD is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE">not a vote</a>, so I don't think it would have made a difference if you had !voted "keep" during the AfD. If you have in-depth sources that somehow were missed during the debate, that might be something else. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 10 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z-Arunram-2019-01-10T05:34:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arunram-2019-01-11T02:27:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I am quite familiar with the Afd process. Yes, i was referring to additional sources. I will request a review when i get a chance to organize the sources. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Arunram" title="User:Arunram">Arunram</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arunram" title="User talk:Arunram">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Arunram-2019-01-11T02:27:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arunram-2019-01-11T02:27:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arunram-2019-01-11T02:27:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-10T08:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Deleted draft: Crop Science Society of America<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MPings-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America"></span>Thanks for the alert. I'm a new contributor. Please restore the draft so I can work on resolving the issues you flagged. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:MPings" title="User:MPings">MPings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MPings" title="User talk:MPings">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-MPings-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a>MPings<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MPings-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MPings-2019-01-11T17:06:00.000Z-Deleted_draft:_Crop_Science_Society_of_America"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z"><span id="Deleted_Draft:Cardano_.28cryptocurrency_platform.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span>Deleted Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span>Hello <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span> you speedy deleted <a href="/wiki/Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)">Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)</a>. I feel that the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Why_was_the_page_I_created_deleted%3F#What_you_can_do_about_it">page has been deleted in error</a> as I contested the nomination on the talk page, but did not see any reaction. Are you willing to undelete the page or do you have any recommendations for me? Thank you, --<a href="/wiki/User:FlippyFlink" title="User:FlippyFlink">FlippyFlink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FlippyFlink" title="User talk:FlippyFlink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-11T22:15:00.000Z-Deleted_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Confused_about_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Confused_about_edits-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Confused_about_edits-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span>Confused about edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Confused_about_edits-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z-Confused_about_edits"></span>Hi, You've reversed multiple of my edits, and some I understand, but some go against convention in my field and make the article unclear. While you find the term 'landscape science' "weird", that is in fact my entire field of study and the main focus/subject of the journal. In this field, landscape science =/= landscape architecture. At this point I am at a loss for how to fix the article so that it is accurate and still up to Wikipedia's standards. The intro makes no sense to me as it stands. <a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rachelleonard" title="User talk:Rachelleonard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z-Confused_about_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z-Confused_about_edits"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z-Confused_about_edits"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I've tweaked the lead. Is this better? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z"></span>A good effort? Landscape science, planning, design, architecture are all distinct fields, not subsets under an umbrella of landscape science. L planning and architecture are 'practice oriented fields' along w Urban and regional planning, the ecologies, and the engineering fields. <a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rachelleonard" title="User talk:Rachelleonard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:13:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z"></span>So what's the difference between "landscape science" and the rest? I note that we don't have an article "landscape science", while we have articles on all the other subfields. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T18:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page watcher</a>)</small> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a>:</span> Yes, please consider creating either an article about <a href="/wiki/Landscape_science" class="mw-redirect" title="Landscape science">Landscape science</a> or a section within a wider article of wherever it fits in the hierarchy of academic disciplines - perhaps within <a href="/wiki/Geography#Related_fields" title="Geography">Geography#Related_fields</a>? Googling "Landscape science" I found various citable descriptions of the field like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ecologyandsociety.org/vol18/iss1/art32/">here</a>. (Incidentally, Rachel, do you have a connection to the journal which might be considered a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">Conflict of Interest</a>? I see that you state that " I use Wikipedia to update and upkeep the article for <i><a href="/wiki/Landscape_and_Urban_Planning" title="Landscape and Urban Planning">Landscape and Urban Planning</a></i>." and that you have made no other edits to the encyclopedia.) <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-PamD-2019-01-11T18:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T18:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2019-01-11T18:44:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-11T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span>I simply don't have time to create a entire new page for landscape science. It took me hours and hours just to learn enough about Wikipedia to edit this one page. I am a researcher and I work for the University of Michigan under the Landscape Architecture program - I was asked to update the page as part of my appointment because it was severely underdeveloped and unhelpful. I have made no other edits because this is simply not my thing. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rachelleonard#top" title="User talk:Rachelleonard">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rachelleonard" title="Special:Contributions/Rachelleonard">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T18:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Racehlleonard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Racehlleonard (page does not exist)">Racehlleonard</a>:</span> I can see that the journal page was indeed <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landscape_and_Urban_Planning&oldid=814405080">"severely underdeveloped"</a> before you started work on it, and you've done most of the expansion since then! Your work probably counts as "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UPE">Undisclosed Paid Editing</a>" as you were asked to do it as part of an appointment, so please read that link and make a statement on your talk page or the article's talk page or both. But I've now got interested in trying to define "<a href="/wiki/Landscape_science" class="mw-redirect" title="Landscape science">landscape science</a>" (being retired I have the luxury of disposable time) and I'll see what I can do to turn that into a blue link. <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> 22:30, 11 January 2019 (UTC) <small><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a>:</span> pinging again because I mistyped your name before, sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z-Rachelleonard-2019-01-11T19:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a>:</span> I'm now thinking in terms of adding a section on Landscape Science to the article <a href="/wiki/Landscape" title="Landscape">Landscape</a>: I hope that makes sense. But one thing baffles me: in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://journals.openedition.org/belgeo/13975">this</a> it says <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The whole of the disciplines involved in landscape research will be referred to as landscape science, although this term was used first in 1885 by the geographers Oppel and Troll (Troll, 1950).</q> Was the Troll of 1950 discussing his/her own work of 65 years earlier (just about possible), or that of his or her parent or someone with coincidental same name, or is there a typo? Do you know anything about this/these Trolls which would help make sense of this? I know you're a busy researcher but I'm trying to put your discipline onto the Wikipedia map and would be grateful if you could shed any light! (Apologies, Randy, for taking over your talk page like this.) <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-12T00:37:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z"></span>Concerning the paid editing claim, I don't particularly care since it's clear <a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rachelleonard" title="User talk:Rachelleonard">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rachelleonard" title="Special:Contributions/Rachelleonard">contribs</a>) followed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JWG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JWG">WP:JWG</a> as best she could. Even if there's a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> somewhere, it's not a problematic one. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-01-12T00:37:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-01-12T00:37:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-01-12T00:37:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2019-01-12T19:46:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Rachelleonard" title="User:Rachelleonard">Rachelleonard</a>:</span> Please have a look at <a href="/wiki/Landscape#Landscape_science" title="Landscape">Landscape#Landscape science</a> and improve it or comment to me. I found such a range of different definitions that all I could do was to quote some of them. <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD"><span style="color: green"><i><b>Pam</b></i></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD"><span style="color: brown"><i><b>D</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-PamD-2019-01-12T19:46:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2019-01-12T19:46:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2019-01-12T19:46:00.000Z-PamD-2019-01-11T22:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"></span>Bot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z-Bot"></span>Yeah, if a bot could be designed to do this, then I'd stop. I don't want to cause any inconvience to others, just want to mae sure that articles that already have wikiata have the ac, and those that might in the future will already have the "infrastructure", the "sockets" for the plug so to speak.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bellerophon5685" title="User:Bellerophon5685">Bellerophon5685</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bellerophon5685" title="User talk:Bellerophon5685">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z-Bot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z-Bot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z-Bot"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"></span>Wikidata? If we actually want to use that. As far as I am concerned, it's a potential source of hardly-traceable vandalism... Did you get consensus sopmewhere for these edits? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T18:45:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z"></span>I didn't see how it would clog up anything or cause any difficulty. The only problem is there is no way to tell if a page has wikidata, that I am aware of, other than adding it to the bottom of a page and seeing if it is already there.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bellerophon5685" title="User:Bellerophon5685">Bellerophon5685</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bellerophon5685" title="User talk:Bellerophon5685">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-12T18:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T21:07:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Well, I have hundreds of academic journal articles on my watchlist so, yes, I get every day multiple edits of yours that just add this template without any visible consequence. I have seen literally dozens of edits where you added this template and not a single instance where it actually made any difference. And, again, is there sommunity consensus for adding these templates? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T21:07:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T21:07:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-12T21:07:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-01-12T19:31:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_of_AfD" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_of_AfD-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_of_AfD-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z"></span>Merge of AfD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_of_AfD-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z-Merge_of_AfD"></span>Hi there, </p><p>I was hoping you could both explain in a bit more detail and hopefully reconsider your close of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Koszalin_escape_room_fire" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koszalin escape room fire">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koszalin escape room fire</a>. </p><p>Including nom's change of heart, there were 11 !votes, of which 10 were justified (1 merge was just "merge to escape room"). This seems to be 6 Keeps and 4 merges - with no delete/redirect !vote left I'm not sure whether it could have legitimately been relisted, but I feel that an ordered merge is inappropriate in this case, rather than a proposed merge in the regular fashion. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z-Merge_of_AfD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 13 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z-Merge_of_AfD"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-13T10:14:00.000Z-Merge_of_AfD"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z"></span>Blue squirrel listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_loose_noose-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect <a href="/w/index.php?title=Blue_squirrel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Blue squirrel (page does not exist)">Blue squirrel</a>. Since you had some involvement with the <i>Blue squirrel</i> redirect, you might want to participate in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_14#Blue_squirrel" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 14">the redirect discussion</a> if you have not already done so. <a href="/wiki/User:A_loose_noose" class="mw-redirect" title="User:A loose noose">A loose noose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A_loose_noose" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:A loose noose">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-A_loose_noose-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 14 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_loose_noose-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_loose_noose-2019-01-14T10:07:00.000Z-Blue_squirrel_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/Koszalin_escape_room_fire" class="mw-redirect" title="Koszalin escape room fire">Koszalin escape room fire</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire"></span>An editor has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Koszalin_escape_room_fire" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a> of <a href="/wiki/Koszalin_escape_room_fire" class="mw-redirect" title="Koszalin escape room fire">Koszalin escape room fire</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nosebagbear-2019-01-14T17:49:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Koszalin_escape_room_fire"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z"><span id="Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_.28cryptocurrency_platform.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)">Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span>An editor has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a> of <a href="/wiki/Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)">Draft:Cardano (cryptocurrency platform)</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/User:FlippyFlink" title="User:FlippyFlink">FlippyFlink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FlippyFlink" title="User talk:FlippyFlink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FlippyFlink-2019-01-18T22:12:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FPeter_Gandy_.28author.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Gandy (author)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Gandy (author)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)"></span>Hmmm, looks like I stepped on your relist by accident. I hope that's OK. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Gandy_(author)"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-20T19:16:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span>No worries. For me, it was a toss up between relist and the same close as you did anyway. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-20T19:16:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-20T19:16:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-20T19:16:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-01-20T17:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_of_ResetEra" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_ResetEra-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_ResetEra-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"></span>Deletion of ResetEra<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_ResetEra-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z-Deletion_of_ResetEra"></span>Good afternoon, </p><p>I saw the page for ResetEra was deleted and noticed that in the discussion that it was removed due to a lack of "notability." I don't know who originally created the page, but I believe I can write a new one that focuses more on the site itself rather than the site it spun-off from. I've drafted something if you care to look at it. Thank you! </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Adkbay&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adkbay (page does not exist)">Adkbay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adkbay" title="User talk:Adkbay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z-Deletion_of_ResetEra" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z-Deletion_of_ResetEra"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z-Deletion_of_ResetEra"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"></span>This was deleted after a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">deletion discussion</a>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/ResetEra" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ResetEra">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ResetEra</a>. You should not re-create the article unless you have independent <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a> that discuss the subject in-depth and that were not mentioned in that discussion. Otherwise any re-creation will just be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">speedily deleted</a> (see under G4). --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z"></span>Oh, I agree. I didn't create it because it said I needed to contact you. I have 19 sources regarding ResetEra (as in ResetEra was sourced in some way in the article), with only the first 2 referencing the prior site due to the History section. (draft in sandbox) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Adkbay&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adkbay (page does not exist)">Adkbay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adkbay" title="User talk:Adkbay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z"></span>I'm not very optimistic. I checked the first few references and they're not about ResetEra. I don't have time to go through all of them. Just give me two that are <i>independent</i> or ResetEra, published in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sources</a>, and discuss the subject <i>in-depth</i>, so that it can be shown that this meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">our inclusion criteria</a>. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:11:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z"></span>Understandable. The first two are the two that reference NeoGAF primarily, yes (since the scandal involving that site is inextricably linked to the creation of ResetEra). References 3 and 4 are almost entirely about the development of ResetEra, with only passing references to NeoGAF for context (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/24/16536652/neogaf-resetera-forum-scandal-malka">https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/24/16536652/neogaf-resetera-forum-scandal-malka</a>) (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.usgamer.net/articles/resetera-the-new-forum-founded-by-ex-neogaf-members-is-now-live">https://www.usgamer.net/articles/resetera-the-new-forum-founded-by-ex-neogaf-members-is-now-live</a>). After that, the rest are news outlets using ResetEra as their primary source and industry members referencing ResetEra. I understand if I need to look for more. And I thank you for your time, I'm sure all of you are quite busy! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Adkbay&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Adkbay (page does not exist)">Adkbay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adkbay" title="User talk:Adkbay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adkbay-2019-01-21T23:43:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-21T23:34:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FGirls.27_Frontline"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls%27_Frontline" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girls' Frontline">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girls' Frontline</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline"></span>Hi, I disagree with your assessment of consensus as "keep". Numerically, 2:1 isn't a consensus, and in terms of arguments, no actual source that meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> was cited. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein"><span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;"><b> Sandstein </b></span></a></span></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girls'_Frontline"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-27T05:49:00.000Z-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"></span>You're right. I've changed the close to "no consensus". --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-27T05:49:00.000Z-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:49, 27 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-27T05:49:00.000Z-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-27T05:49:00.000Z-Sandstein-2019-01-26T23:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ISO_4_redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISO_4_redirects-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ISO_4_redirects-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span>ISO 4 redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ISO_4_redirects-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z-ISO_4_redirects"></span>BTW when you're working with German titles in the infobox, make sure you uncheck the 'English Only' box in <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://marcinwrochna.github.io/abbrevIso/?search=Milit%C3%A4rgeschichtliche_Zeitschrift">[3]</a>. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z-ISO_4_redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z-ISO_4_redirects"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z-ISO_4_redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span>See also the 'Search links' subsection of <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_journal#Sub_templates" title="Template:Infobox journal">Template:Infobox_journal#Sub_templates</a>. If you add stuff to your CSS files, you'll have links to various databases and abbreviation generators, as well as MIAR to check for indexing. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! I already thought that it was strange that "Zeitschrift" was not abbreviated. I indeed forgot to uncheck that box... I've added that line to my css file. Which gave an error warning for the stuff above, but I neither know how to correct the error nor even what that stuff is about... There is something that says "persondata", so perhaps it has something to do with that deprecated stuff, but I'm loath to mess around withour understanding what I'm doing... Perhaps you can have a look and tell me what I safely can remove or correct? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-02-01T08:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span>Whatever persondata error you've got, I'm pretty sure it's unrelated to the infoboxes. For that, I'd ask at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a>, because I don't know much about anything there.<span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-01T09:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Jytdog should consider returning back<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DBigXray-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/881449905" title="Special:Diff/881449905">feeling</a> is mutual, I have started a thread <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jytdog#Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back" title="User talk:Jytdog">User talk:Jytdog#Jytdog should consider returning back</a> to try and canvass him to return back. I am sure he will read it someday, lets hope for the best. Regards. --<i><span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DBigXray&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DBigXray (page does not exist)">D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span></a><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DBigXray&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:DBigXray (page does not exist)">X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ</a></span></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-DBigXray-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 2 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DBigXray-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DBigXray-2019-02-02T17:53:00.000Z-Jytdog_should_consider_returning_back"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks" data-mw-thread-id="h-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z"></span>request for deleted list of industrial parks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doncram-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span>Per your offer within your closing statement at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_industrial_parks_by_size" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of industrial parks by size">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of industrial parks by size</a>, could you please provide the now-deleted list-article to my userspace. I will plan to merge some or all of it to the <a href="/wiki/Industrial_park" title="Industrial park">industrial park</a> article. I would prefer to get the full version with complete edit history, for my own reference. Thanks in advance. --<a href="/wiki/User:Doncram" title="User:Doncram">Doncram</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doncram" title="User talk:Doncram">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Doncram-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 29 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doncram-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doncram-2019-01-29T04:11:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> It's at <a href="/wiki/User:Doncram/List_of_industrial_parks" title="User:Doncram/List of industrial parks">User:Doncram/List of industrial parks</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 29 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z-request_for_deleted_list_of_industrial_parks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doncram-2019-02-02T22:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Doncram" title="User:Doncram">Doncram</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doncram" title="User talk:Doncram">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Doncram-2019-02-02T22:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 2 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doncram-2019-02-02T22:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doncram-2019-02-02T22:30:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-29T09:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div 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Exactly what do you want me to do?--<a href="/wiki/User:Bellerophon5685" title="User:Bellerophon5685">Bellerophon5685</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bellerophon5685" title="User talk:Bellerophon5685">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:14:00.000Z-Authority_control" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 7 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:14:00.000Z-Authority_control"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:14:00.000Z-Authority_control"></span> </p><p><a href="/wiki/Mosfilm" title="Mosfilm"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z-Authority_control"></span>Mosfilm</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lenfilm" title="Lenfilm">Lenfilm</a> were perfectly legitimate edits, as the authority control linked to wikidata. <a href="/wiki/Rheinische_Volkspflege" title="Rheinische Volkspflege">Rheinische Volkspflege</a> had noting to do with Authority control at all. I never added it, so why was that reverted?--<a href="/wiki/User:Bellerophon5685" title="User:Bellerophon5685">Bellerophon5685</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bellerophon5685" title="User talk:Bellerophon5685">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z-Authority_control" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z-Authority_control"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z-Authority_control"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-07T16:36:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z"></span>You <i>have</i> been adding the authority control template to articles where this did not have any visible effect (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennauchfilm&diff=prev&oldid=882135323">here for example</a>). That you at the same time performed other edits, too, is irrelevant here. You have been asked multiple times to stop adding this template in such cases without first obtaining community consensus. So what I want you to do is start having that discussion. And as I said on your talk page, the next time you add an "empty" authority control template to an article, you <i>will</i> be blocked for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Disruptive_editing&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Disruptive editing (page does not exist)">disruptive editing</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-07T16:36:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-07T16:36:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-07T16:36:00.000Z-Bellerophon5685-2019-02-07T16:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FDavid_Nemer"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Nemer">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Nemer</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer"></span>I have already posted this on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion" title="Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion">Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion</a> but they told me to contact the admin who deleted the page. Here's why I believe the page should be undeleted: Nemer (Portuguese wiki <a class="external free" href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nemer">https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nemer</a> ) has become one of the leading researchers on misinformation and election: article published in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-whatsapp-fake-news">the Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://qz.com/india/1445013/whatsapp-fake-news-helped-bolsonaro-win-brazil-is-india-next/">Quartz</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://brasil.elpais.com/brasil/2018/10/26/opinion/1540565822_010438.html">El Pais</a>, he was recognized as one of the most influential people in science and technology <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://g1.globo.com/educacao/guia-de-carreiras/noticia/2019/01/11/o-brasileiro-que-virou-referencia-em-antropologia-da-informatica-nos-eua-para-ter-impacto-maior-no-brasil.ghtml">by Globo</a> (number 1 news venue in Brazil). He is the author of Favela Digital- The other side of technology. I'd be happy to edit and update the information. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Wikisharktank" title="User:Wikisharktank">Wikisharktank</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikisharktank#top" title="User talk:Wikisharktank">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wikisharktank" title="Special:Contributions/Wikisharktank">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Nemer"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"></span>Hi, I'm sorry, but I don't see any reason te revisit that AfD closure. The sources you present are articles <i>by</i> Nemer (not <i>about</i> him) and an interview, which does not count for much in terms of notability. Only the Globo article is more substantial, but I have no idea how reliable that website is. In any case, one article is not enough to meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. If you still want to pursue this, feel free to take this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 28 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-01-28T12:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span> Thanks for your feedback. I've taken it to Deletion Review and they want to see a draft- but my question is: if there's already a Wiki article in Portuguese, that has been through the review process, would this be enough of a reason to have the article translated to other languages? --<a href="/wiki/User:Wikisharktank" title="User:Wikisharktank">Wikisharktank</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikisharktank" title="User talk:Wikisharktank">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z"></span>Different language wikis have different rules. I'm not very familiar with the rules on other wikis than this one, so I'm afraid that I cannot be of much help. If you're asking whether having an article on ptwiki is enough to have an article here, the answer is no, given those different rules. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 1 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-01T13:28:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-01T13:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a>:</span> Thanks, Randykitty. I completely understand and agree with your point. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#David_Nemer_(closed)" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">I got a notification that the DRV discussion on this article has been closed</a>, and the conclusion was to let the article to be drafted and, then, have an editor moving it to the main space whenever he/she finds it ready. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:David_Nemer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:David Nemer (page does not exist)">I have prepared the draft a while ago</a>, and some people went there and also contributed to the article. I have also solicited it to be reviewed, but since you have looked at it before, I was wondering if could you review it and check if you deem it ready? --<a href="/wiki/User:Wikisharktank" title="User:Wikisharktank">Wikisharktank</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikisharktank" title="User talk:Wikisharktank">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 7 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span>Just an updated: I added a bunch of relevant External Links of TV interviews, Press Coverage, TEDx talk, OP EDs, Google Books link, and Portuguese Wikipedia article, just to show relevance. Also, as you mentioned, sometimes you can't tell the reliability of a news source in Brazil, so I also linked the news sources to their Wikipedia pages in English. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wikisharktank" title="User:Wikisharktank">Wikisharktank</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikisharktank" title="User talk:Wikisharktank">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-01-28T12:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-08T10:52:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z"></span>I have asked the editor who originally proposed this bio for deletion to have a look at the draft to see whether they now think it passes the bar. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-08T10:52:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-08T10:52:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-08T10:52:00.000Z-Wikisharktank-2019-02-08T04:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9-2019-02-09T09:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9-2019-02-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for February 9<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9-2019-02-09T09:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2019-02-09T09:17:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/w/index.php?title=David_Nemer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="David Nemer (page does not exist)">David Nemer</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Musical" class="mw-disambig" 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data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2019-02-09T09:17:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_9"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"><span id="Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312.27s_block"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Edit war restarting after the end of Rmor312's block<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block"></span>You may be interested in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI/3RR#User:Rmor312_reported_by_User:D.Lazard_(Result:_)" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI/3RR">WP:ANI/3RR#User:Rmor312 reported by User:D.Lazard (Result: )</a>, in which you are involved as a blocking administrator. <a href="/wiki/User:D.Lazard" title="User:D.Lazard">D.Lazard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:D.Lazard" title="User talk:D.Lazard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z-Edit_war_restarting_after_the_end_of_Rmor312's_block"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-10T17:38:00.000Z-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the note. I've watchlisted that article (and also <a href="/wiki/Contact_process_(mathematics)" title="Contact process (mathematics)">Contact process (mathematics)</a>). The disruption seems to have ceased now, but if they restart, I'll see it and will block again (and longer this time). --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-10T17:38:00.000Z-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-10T17:38:00.000Z-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-10T17:38:00.000Z-D.Lazard-2019-02-10T17:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Occupational_Health_Science" data-mw-thread-id="h-Occupational_Health_Science-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Occupational_Health_Science-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"></span>Occupational Health Science<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Occupational_Health_Science-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z-Occupational_Health_Science"></span>Occupational Health Science</i> has published two volumes already, and volume 3 is coming up. Please undo your redirect. I understand why you redirected it last year when only one volume and one issue were published. But now the journal is publishing every quarter. The first issue of Volume 3 will be out next month. <a href="/wiki/User:Iss246" title="User:Iss246">Iss246</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iss246" title="User talk:Iss246">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z-Occupational_Health_Science" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z-Occupational_Health_Science"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z-Occupational_Health_Science"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-11T20:18:00.000Z-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"></span>It's not enough for a journal to exist. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJournals">WP:NJournals</a>. This one still misses that by a mile. It misses <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a> by even more. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-11T20:18:00.000Z-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-11T20:18:00.000Z-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-11T20:18:00.000Z-Iss246-2019-02-11T20:12:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revision" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revision-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revision-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"></span>Revision<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revision-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z-Revision"></span>Hello, I am the writer of <i><a href="/w/index.php?title=Dagger_(zine)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Dagger (zine) (page does not exist)">Dagger</a></i>. I use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITEX#harvnb" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITEX">shortened notes linked with {{tl|sfn}} and citation templates</a>, styled <a href="/wiki/Sudirman#References" title="Sudirman">Sudirman</a>. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NorthPark1417&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NorthPark1417 (page does not exist)">NorthPark1417</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NorthPark1417" title="User talk:NorthPark1417">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z-Revision" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z-Revision"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z-Revision"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-13T12:33:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"></span>I have self-reverted, but must say that I find it ugly (but that's a question of personal taste, I guess). Also, I don't see the need for separating print from online sources. In addition, about half of this short stub is not even about the zine itself, but about its founder. None of the references contains more than an in-passing mention of <i>Dagger</i> (except one and that is only a single paragraph). At least one reference does not even mention the zine. If you cannot show notability, this will likely end up at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">AfD</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-13T12:33:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-13T12:33:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-13T12:33:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-02-13T12:08:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Who's_a_neuroscientist?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Who's_a_neuroscientist?-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"><span id="Who.27s_a_neuroscientist.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Who's_a_neuroscientist?-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"></span>Who's a neuroscientist?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Who's_a_neuroscientist?-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z-Who's_a_neuroscientist?"></span>I noticed you recently removed mentions of <a href="/wiki/Danielle_Posthuma" title="Danielle Posthuma">Danielle Posthuma</a> being a neuroscientist from her article. I wanted to point out that there is at least one source referring to her as a neuroscientist (which is why I put it in the article in the first place): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610151/a-search-for-insomnia-genes-involving-13-million-people-is-the-largest-genetic-study-ever/?__hstc=43953530.1262e0d967587ea21af1cb8a0299b690.1550184874657.1550184874657.1550184874657.1&__hssc=43953530.1.1550184874658&__hsfp=2608085517&_ga=2.95398943.2042425278.1550184875-418183893.1550184875">this article</a> in MIT Technology review. It says "It was led by Danielle Posthuma, a neuroscientist specializing in statistical genetics at Vrije University, in Amsterdam." Do you think this is good enough by itself to refer to her as a neuroscientist in the article? <a href="/wiki/User:IntoThinAir" title="User:IntoThinAir">IntoThinAir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IntoThinAir" title="User talk:IntoThinAir">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z-Who's_a_neuroscientist?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z-Who's_a_neuroscientist?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z-Who's_a_neuroscientist?"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-15T10:06:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"></span>Well, in a sense, everyone who studies behavior could be considered a neuroscientist (after all, behavior is the output of the brain). Posthuma is perhaps a borderline case. Looking at GScholar, most of her best-cited publications are what I would call "classical behavior genetics", that is, looking at heritability of behavior or localising genes for behavior, i.e. going from gene to behavior as if there's no brain pathways in between the two. Even when her team attempts to localise genes for psychiatric disorders, no brain properties are included. She comes from the department led by Dorret Boomsma, which is in psychology. There are a few articles that mention certain proteins, for example, or brain size. To me, that doesn't really put her into the "neuroscientist box", but I agree that it is perhaps a matter of taste, so if you really feel that the moniker "neuroscientist" applies in this case, I won't object if you put it back (but I think that in any case "behavior geneticist" and "psychiatric geneticist" should stay). --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-15T10:06:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 15 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-15T10:06:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-15T10:06:00.000Z-IntoThinAir-2019-02-14T23:03:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Biological_Communications" data-mw-thread-id="h-Biological_Communications-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Biological_Communications-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"></span>Biological Communications<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Biological_Communications-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span>Hi, Randykitty! I appreciate your help in improving the WP article about <a href="/wiki/Draft:Biological_Communications" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Biological Communications">Biological Communications</a> journal (1956-ongoing). Now I have added more references (including indexing platforms like Scopus and Clarivate Analytics). Please review this new version when you will have time! --<a href="/wiki/User:KunRiskun" title="User:KunRiskun">KunRiskun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KunRiskun" title="User talk:KunRiskun">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z-Biological_Communications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)</a>KunRiskun<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T17:17:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"></span>Actuzally, earlier today I looked into this, planning to expand the article and move it to main article space. However, when I checked Scopus and Clarivate Analytics, I could not find this journal. THe reference about Russian journals in Scopus does not pan out either. So it looks like this still does not meet NJournals (and GNG even less). Sorry about that... --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T17:17:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T17:17:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T17:17:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T16:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span>Hi again! Elsevier (read Scopus) now have journal lists for different countries(e.g., Russian, Chineese). If you (or any researcher or librarian) have access to WoS (Clarivative Analytics) database, you will find all articles of the journal there! The references included are just available from this side of the paywall. Please, try again Clarivative Analytics - Here is the regular way: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://mjl.clarivate.com/">http://mjl.clarivate.com/</a> then type Biological Communications into "Search our Master Journal List". Press search - here it is! I can send you a print screen if you need. Regards --<a href="/wiki/User:KunRiskun" title="User:KunRiskun">KunRiskun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KunRiskun" title="User talk:KunRiskun">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z-Biological_Communications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)</a>KunRiskun<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T18:33:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z"></span>I checked Scopus again and it does NOT list this journal (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.scopus.com/sources?sortField=citescore&sortDirection=desc&isHiddenField=false&field=issn&issn=%092542-2154&_openAccess=on&_countCheck=on&count=0&countField=documentsMin&_bestPercentile=on&_quartile=on&_quartile=on&_quartile=on&_quartile=on&_type=on&_type=on&_type=on&_type=on&year=2017&offset=&resultsPerPage=20.">here</a>). And as far as Clarivate goes, the journal is only included in the minor databases <a href="/w/index.php?title=BIOSYS_Previews&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="BIOSYS Previews (page does not exist)">BIOSYS Previews</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=The_Zoologicak_Record&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="The Zoologicak Record (page does not exist)">The Zoologicak Record</a>. That's a bit meager... --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T18:33:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 18 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T18:33:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-18T18:33:00.000Z-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T17:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T18:55:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span>-Ok, I see, it is for 2018. Let's wait for updated 2019 Scopus list. I will return to this draft later. Regards--<a href="/wiki/User:KunRiskun" title="User:KunRiskun">KunRiskun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KunRiskun" title="User talk:KunRiskun">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T18:55:00.000Z-Biological_Communications" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 18 February 2019 (UTC)</a>KunRiskun<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T18:55:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KunRiskun-2019-02-18T18:55:00.000Z-Biological_Communications"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="UAP" data-mw-thread-id="h-UAP-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-UAP-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"></span>UAP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-UAP-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z-UAP"></span>Hi, Randykitty. Just wanted to say thanks for your work on the University of Arkansas Press page. (Is this the right place to do that?) I'm very new to Wikipedia editing and have appreciated expert attention. Curious, what's your interest in the press? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Darkbrowndog" title="User:Darkbrowndog">Darkbrowndog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Darkbrowndog#top" title="User talk:Darkbrowndog">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Darkbrowndog" title="Special:Contributions/Darkbrowndog">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z-UAP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 20 February 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z-UAP"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z-UAP"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-20T15:36:00.000Z-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, you're welcome! My interests here are mostly related to all aspects of academic publishing, hence my interest in the UAP. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-20T15:36:00.000Z-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-20T15:36:00.000Z-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-20T15:36:00.000Z-Darkbrowndog-2019-02-20T15:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk_pages_consultation_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk_pages_consultation_2019-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk_pages_consultation_2019-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z"></span>Talk pages consultation 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk_pages_consultation_2019-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z-Talk_pages_consultation_2019"></span>The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019">a consultation</a> on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019">Wikipedia:Talk pages consultation 2019</a></b>. You are invited to express your views in the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric_(AWB)" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric (AWB)"><span style="color:green">~ <i>Winged Blades</i></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color:green">Godric</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z-Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z-Talk_pages_consultation_2019"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-02-24T05:21:00.000Z-Talk_pages_consultation_2019"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion.2FDaniel_James_.28boxer.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel James (boxer)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel James (boxer)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)"></span>I am curious as to what keep arguments you found persuasive. To me they looked like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ILIKEIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ILIKEIT">WP:ILIKEIT</a> so I would like to know what I missed. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Papaursa" title="User:Papaursa">Papaursa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Papaursa" title="User talk:Papaursa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Daniel_James_(boxer)"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"></span>Some argued that GNG was met even though NBOX was perhaps not met. Somebody else argued for significant coverage (I have no access to that source -nor is it necessarily the task of a closer to check sources- but I <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AGF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AGF">assume good faith here</a>). There was quite obviously not a consensus to delete, so I closed "no consensus". Feel free to re-nominate this for deletion after an appropriate amount of time (usually something like 6 months) has passed without improvement forthcoming. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T16:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z"></span>I voted the way I did because I did check all the sources I could find and looked for more on my own. Thanks for enlightening me. I was somewhat surprised there weren't more votes (one way or the other). <a href="/wiki/User:Papaursa" title="User:Papaursa">Papaursa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Papaursa" title="User talk:Papaursa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-24T16:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T20:40:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z"></span>There are quite a few AfDs these days and fewer people that seem to be participating in the discussions. I find myself relisting debates because of too few participants more and more frequently. It's starting to worry me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T20:40:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 24 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T20:40:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-24T20:40:00.000Z-Papaursa-2019-02-24T20:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kichesippi_Beer_Co." data-mw-thread-id="h-Kichesippi_Beer_Co.-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kichesippi_Beer_Co.-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Kichesippi_Beer_Co.&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kichesippi Beer Co. (page does not exist)">Kichesippi Beer Co.</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kichesippi_Beer_Co.-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z-Kichesippi_Beer_Co."></span>Hi Randykitty, you closed this AfD back in April 2018. I'm finding a lot of coverage in more recent months. Could you please move it to my draft space I can work on it? Thanks for your consideration. <a href="/wiki/User:FloridaArmy" title="User:FloridaArmy">FloridaArmy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloridaArmy" title="User talk:FloridaArmy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z-Kichesippi_Beer_Co." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z-Kichesippi_Beer_Co."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z-Kichesippi_Beer_Co."></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span>I have restored the article to your USER space. Once you have added that new coverage (hopefully something more substantial than just more blogs), drop me a note and I'll move the thing to draft space where it can go through the usual process. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T11:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z"></span>Hi Randykitty, I saw you moved it to my userspace before reading your reply here and I moved it from userspace to draft space but somehow it became "New" and the history was lost. Somehow I must have conflicted with your work when recreating? Anyway, I worked it up in draftspace before I saw that you had fixed the recresting in my userspace so now there are two versions. I guess I can copy over my latest draft version to the userspace version and then I will try to iron out any wrinkles lost from your editing. Thanks for your help. <a href="/wiki/User:FloridaArmy" title="User:FloridaArmy">FloridaArmy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloridaArmy" title="User talk:FloridaArmy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T12:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:FloridaArmy" title="User:FloridaArmy"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z"></span>FloridaArmy</a>, I see you moved it yet again. What about my message above was unclear? In addition, are those two references that you added all you got or is there more? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T12:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Afc submissions are made from draft space. I also like to work on articles in draftspace rather than my userspace. In fact I prefer to work on them in mainspace.</dd> <dd>It isn't an article I created. Anyone is welcome to contribute to it so draftspace seems the appropriate place.</dd> <dd>I was busy sorting out the moves and edit conflicts so no, I didn't remember clearly your instructions. But I don't think I need anyone's permission to move an article from my userspace to draftspace? There are other news items in the subject since the Afd. I think the two I added and the content changes I made are enough. Honestly, it was a bad close of a clearly notable subject the first go around. If you still think it isn't notable I would welcome another Afd dsicussion. <a href="/wiki/User:FloridaArmy" title="User:FloridaArmy">FloridaArmy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloridaArmy" title="User talk:FloridaArmy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z"></span>That's what you most likely are going to get if this gets moved to article space. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T13:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T14:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z"></span>AfDs are okay by me. I'm often amazed at what editors drag there, but that's the process we have. <a href="/wiki/User:FloridaArmy" title="User:FloridaArmy">FloridaArmy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloridaArmy" title="User talk:FloridaArmy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T14:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T14:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloridaArmy-2019-02-28T14:36:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-02-28T13:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd" data-mw-thread-id="h-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Looks like someone changed a redirect that was voted per afd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd"></span>Found this on the new page feed: <a href="/wiki/Venu_Udugula" class="mw-redirect" title="Venu Udugula">Venu Udugula</a> was voted a redirect per AFD, was not sure what type of warning to give the one who changed it. (Been a while since I gave one for that, so yeah) <a href="/wiki/User:Wgolf" title="User:Wgolf">Wgolf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wgolf" title="User talk:Wgolf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z-Looks_like_someone_changed_a_redirect_that_was_voted_per_afd"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-03T09:36:00.000Z-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"></span>The edits were made by anonymous IPs, so giving warnings may not be very useful. I've put it on my watchlist, if this happens again, I'll protect it. Thanks for the heads up! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-03T09:36:00.000Z-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-03T09:36:00.000Z-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-03T09:36:00.000Z-Wgolf-2019-03-03T01:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z"><span id="Thanks_.2C_will_learn_step_by_step"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z"></span>Thanks , will learn step by step<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-182.74.181.186-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step"></span>Thanks, Randykitty I am new to Wikipedia Editing and will surely learn step by step. Thanks for correcting me and sending links. Will Ask you for any help If i need. Thanks <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.74.181.186" title="Special:Contributions/182.74.181.186">182.74.181.186</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:182.74.181.186#top" title="User talk:182.74.181.186">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-182.74.181.186-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-182.74.181.186-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-182.74.181.186-2019-03-04T11:05:00.000Z-Thanks_,_will_learn_step_by_step"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2019" 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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Evad37" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Evad37">Evad37</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/883548380#Resysop_request_(There'sNoTime)" title="Special:PermanentLink/883548380">There'sNoTime</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/882948111#Arbitration_motion_regarding_Alex_Shih" title="Special:PermanentLink/882948111">Alex Shih</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Brian</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884565634#Request_for_desysopping_(Mushroom)" title="Special:PermanentLink/884565634">Mushroom</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/882454408#Resignation" title="Special:PermanentLink/882454408">Nakon</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Oscarthecat</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884598807#Request_for_de-sysoppificationing" title="Special:PermanentLink/884598807">PeruvianLlama</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Ragib</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Reaper Eternal</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Rossami</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881192391#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#February_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/881192391">Tom</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="467"/></a></span> <b>Interface administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884571702#IAdmin_request_(Evad37)" title="Special:PermanentLink/884571702">Evad37</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881473540#IAdmin_request_(Galobtter)" title="Special:PermanentLink/881473540">Galobtter</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/881882689#Resignation_of_Interface_admin_privileges" title="Special:PermanentLink/881882689">Ritchie333</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <figure 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Checkuser_Logo.svg/40px-Checkuser_Logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="110" data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/883839254#Permissions_restored_to_There'sNoTime" title="Special:PermanentLink/883839254">There'sNoTime</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884177762#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/884177762">Keegan</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884177762#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/884177762">Ks0stm</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/883839254#Permissions_restored_to_There'sNoTime" title="Special:PermanentLink/883839254">There'sNoTime</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884177762#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/884177762">Ks0stm</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/884177762#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/884177762">Sphilbrick</a></dd></dl> <p> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span> <b>Guideline and policy news</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>The RfC on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators/2019_request_for_comment_on_inactivity_standards" title="Wikipedia:Administrators/2019 request for comment on inactivity standards">administrator activity requirements</a> failed to reach consensus for any proposal.</li> <li>Following discussions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard/Archive_40#Five_year_rule" title="Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/Archive 40">the Bureaucrats' noticeboard</a> and <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/885266975#Removing_"voluntary_removal"_from_the_5-year_etc_rule" title="Special:PermanentLink/885266975">Wikipedia talk:Administrators</a>, an earlier change to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators#Restoration_of_adminship" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">restoration of adminship</a> policy was <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/883929704/884420780" title="Special:Diff/883929704/884420780">reverted</a>. If requested, bureaucrats will not restore administrator permissions removed due to inactivity if there have been five years without a logged administrator action; this "five year rule" does not apply to permissions removed voluntarily.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Octicons-tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/20px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/40px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></a></span> <b>Technical news</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>A <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/ipcheck" class="extiw" title="toolforge:ipcheck">new tool</a> is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>The Arbitration Committee announced <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/883309481#New_OTRS_queues" title="Special:PermanentLink/883309481">two new OTRS queues</a>. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COIN">WP:COIN</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPI">WP:SPI</a>). <ul><li><code><span class="nowrap">paid-en-wp<span class="mw-no-invert"><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="@"><img alt="@" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/23px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/30px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"/></span></span></span>wikipedia.org</span></code> has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PAID" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PAID">paid editing</a>.</li> <li><code><span class="nowrap">checkuser-en-wp<span class="mw-no-invert"><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="@"><img alt="@" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/23px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/30px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"/></span></span></span>wikipedia.org</span></code> has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.</li></ul></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Info_Simple_bw.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/20px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/30px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Info_Simple_bw.svg/40px-Info_Simple_bw.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span> <b>Miscellaneous</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>Following the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019">2019 Steward Elections</a>, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019/Statements/Base" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019/Statements/Base">Base</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019/Statements/Einsbor" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019/Statements/Einsbor">Einsbor</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019/Statements/Jon_Kolbert" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019/Statements/Jon Kolbert">Jon Kolbert</a>, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019/Statements/Schniggendiller" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019/Statements/Schniggendiller">Schniggendiller</a>, and <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2019/Statements/Wim_b" class="extiw" title="meta:Stewards/Elections 2019/Statements/Wim b">Wim b</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter">Discuss this newsletter</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></li></ul> </div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-03-04T21:13:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-03-04T21:13:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2019"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-03-04T21:13:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_March_2019"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deleted_Article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deleted_Article-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deleted_Article-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span>Deleted Article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deleted_Article-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z-Deleted_Article"></span>Greetings, I was writing you directly as recommended regarding an article you deleted Dec. 2018 for the entry "Red Haircrow". I met him at an event, looked him up and thought he should have a page on Wikipedia. I did read the guidelines for this, and felt he qualified especially when there are people who were in one film as a child actor, did nothing else, and they still have a wikipedia page. He has also appeared in film, please see IMDb links below. Thinking back, I should have gone back and removed the other links, but I got new job in a newsroom that's very busy, and had not had the time. I was looking tonight to share the link to the Wikipedia page only to see its been deleted so I wrote. </p><p>I am not a general editor on Wikipedia as you know. Naturally, I would update the page I created or other related pages. I used the name "contributingauthor" because that is what I do. I would not use my own name or anything close. I am a journalist and author here in Berlin. It applies. I never imagined just my choice of name would make me a suspect. I am not a publicist, paid by him or anything else. I object to the opinion of blatant conflict of interest or self-promotion comments. </p><p>I had not had the chance to update it really for almost a year. As I cannot see the information previously listed on the page anymore or the time it was last updated with more current information. I have added that here. Recent info: </p><p>1. Interview on RT UK (Sept. 2018): <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enhILUv9lDo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enhILUv9lDo</a> 2. The Electric Sheep Radio Show (July 2018): <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://panelborders.wordpress.com/2018/09/18/tomorrows-show-unspoken-cultures/">https://panelborders.wordpress.com/2018/09/18/tomorrows-show-unspoken-cultures/</a> 3. Director/producer documentary film, "Forget Winnetou! Loving in the Wrong Way" (2018) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6494700/?ref_=rvi_tt">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6494700/?ref_=rvi_tt</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forgetwinnetou.com/">https://forgetwinnetou.com/</a> </p> <pre> a. imdb profile <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8754173/?ref_=tt_ov_wr">https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8754173/?ref_=tt_ov_wr</a> </pre> <p>4. Audience Award for "Forget Winnetou!" (2018) at "Refugees Welcome Film Festival (Oct. 2018) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.refugeesfilmfest.com/winners.html?fbclid=IwAR3IRRm970S92KuHZBmwqZlnZqsGoQKrAYbRjSM0kxgj5wwQUxhMf87P-gQ">http://www.refugeesfilmfest.com/winners.html?fbclid=IwAR3IRRm970S92KuHZBmwqZlnZqsGoQKrAYbRjSM0kxgj5wwQUxhMf87P-gQ</a> 5. Played himself in "Searching for Winnetou" (2018), <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7958836/?ref_=nv_sr_1">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7958836/?ref_=nv_sr_1</a> a documentary film by Drew Hayden Taylor <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Hayden_Taylor">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Hayden_Taylor</a>. Looking at Drew Hayden Taylor's page for example, there is not so much difference. 6. Dakota Access Pipeline coverage at Al Jazeera (start around 10:30 mark) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2016/12/dakota-access-pipeline-protests-politics-coverage-161210064734287.html">https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2016/12/dakota-access-pipeline-protests-politics-coverage-161210064734287.html</a> 7. Interview from other outside sources Suddeutsch Zeitung <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.sueddeutsche.de/leben/glaubensbekenntnis-red-haircrow-1.3400776">https://www.sueddeutsche.de/leben/glaubensbekenntnis-red-haircrow-1.3400776</a> Der Freitag <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.freitag.de/autoren/mdell/ich-bin-nur-dem-nein-begegnet">https://www.freitag.de/autoren/mdell/ich-bin-nur-dem-nein-begegnet</a> Deutschlandfunkkultur Radio (interview and podcast) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/projekt-forget-winnetou-gegen-klischees-die-ureinwohner.2156.de.html?dram%3Aarticle_id=381217">https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/projekt-forget-winnetou-gegen-klischees-die-ureinwohner.2156.de.html?dram%3Aarticle_id=381217</a> </p><p>All of the interviews are also about the topics of Native American activism like Standing Rock, racism, colonialism and cultural appropriation </p><p>Also current Secretary for Native Research Network (2017-2019) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.nativeresearchnetwork.org/about">https://www.nativeresearchnetwork.org/about</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Contributingauthor" title="User:Contributingauthor">Contributingauthor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Contributingauthor#top" title="User talk:Contributingauthor">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Contributingauthor" title="Special:Contributions/Contributingauthor">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z-Deleted_Article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z-Deleted_Article"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z-Deleted_Article"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-05T22:56:00.000Z-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span>Hi, After a (brief) review of the links that you give above, it doesn't look to me that they indicate notability <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">in the WP sense</a>. If you think that this is incorrect, you can take this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>, but I don't think you'd have much luck with that. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-05T22:56:00.000Z-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 5 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-05T22:56:00.000Z-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-05T22:56:00.000Z-Contributingauthor-2019-03-05T19:28:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journalism_Practice_Scope" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journalism_Practice_Scope-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journalism_Practice_Scope-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"></span>Journalism Practice Scope<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journalism_Practice_Scope-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z-Journalism_Practice_Scope"></span>Hin Randykitty, </p><p>I'm contacting you because you recently deleted the scope portion of the Journalism Practice page. I don't feel that this was promotional material or biased in any way. I do not work for Journalism Practice and doing this for academic purposes. I would ask you to please reconsider your edit. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jfortunapeak&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jfortunapeak (page does not exist)">Jfortunapeak</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfortunapeak#top" title="User talk:Jfortunapeak">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jfortunapeak" title="Special:Contributions/Jfortunapeak">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z-Journalism_Practice_Scope" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 11 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z-Journalism_Practice_Scope"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z-Journalism_Practice_Scope"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:45:00.000Z-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"></span>I think it was promotional. However, whether promotional or not, it's unnecessary. The current lead ("covering the professional practice and relevance of journalism") covers it all. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:45:00.000Z-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 16 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:45:00.000Z-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:45:00.000Z-Jfortunapeak-2019-03-11T21:51:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_sourcing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_sourcing-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_sourcing-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Regarding sourcing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_sourcing-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z-Regarding_sourcing"></span>Hello RandyKitty, outside of the deletion forum, please explain how an article you approved of, <i><a href="/wiki/Globalizations" title="Globalizations">Globalizations</a></i> is upheld by in-depth sources. When I did a search myself to see if I was able to improve the article, I found only listings, and no coverage, comments, reviews or history. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NorthPark1417&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NorthPark1417 (page does not exist)">NorthPark1417</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NorthPark1417" title="User talk:NorthPark1417">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z-Regarding_sourcing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 12 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z-Regarding_sourcing"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z-Regarding_sourcing"></span> </p> <ul><li><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:48:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Globalizations</i> is included in the very selective <a href="/wiki/Social_Sciences_Citation_Index" title="Social Sciences Citation Index">Social Sciences Citation Index</a>. This means that a committee of specialists evaluated the journal and determined that it is among the most important ones in its field. Following <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJournals">WP:NJournals</a>, this meets our inclusion criteria. It's indeed irrelevant to any current AfD (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAX">WP:WAX</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OTHERCRAPEXISTS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OTHERCRAPEXISTS">WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:48:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:48:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-16T19:48:00.000Z-NorthPark1417-2019-03-12T19:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span>Removal of Use templates on AFD Closers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers"></span>Thankyou for your work during AfDs. Following someones pick up that on the AfD closures of <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DWWR_15&diff=888527308&oldid=previous">DWWR 15</a></span>.that <a href="/wiki/Template:Use_dmy" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Use dmy">Template:Use dmy</a> and <a href="/wiki/Template:Use_Irish_English" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Use Irish English">Template:Use Irish English</a> had been removed. <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DWWR_55&diff=888526269&oldid=previous">DWWR 55</a></span> has had the same issue. (I've just noted other templates gone on <a href="/wiki/DWWR_15" title="DWWR 15">DWWR 15</a> so I'm going to fix those then resume this or I'll be trying to multiprocess with someone else getting dressed on top).<a href="/wiki/User:Djm-leighpark" title="User:Djm-leighpark">Djm-leighpark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Djm-leighpark" title="User talk:Djm-leighpark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z-Removal_of_Use_templates_on_AFD_Closers"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span>Oh my, did I do that? That certainly was unintentional! That AfD was a pain to close because of the large number of articles invlved. And because they had been added in a non-standard way, the script did not recognize them, so I had to remove the templates and add the oldafd templates to the talk pages by hand. Thanks for letting me know, I'll check and where necessary will clean up my mess. Sorry for the hassle! --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T09:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I'll simply re-check after you've finished. I've noted at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galobtter/Shortdesc_helper#Template_being_added_at_incorrect_position_for_AfD_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Galobtter/Shortdesc helper">User talk:Galobtter/Shortdesc helper#Template being added at incorrect position for AfD articles</a> about that being added at the top ... I think I need to raise use of <a href="/wiki/Template:Short_description" title="Template:Short description">Template:Short description</a> at WikiProject Trains for usage standardisation but that's not your issue (NB: I've now relocated 10 miles west trying to wake up so I may not be making sense) Thankyou. <a href="/wiki/User:Djm-leighpark" title="User:Djm-leighpark">Djm-leighpark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Djm-leighpark" title="User talk:Djm-leighpark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T09:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T09:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T09:22:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T10:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span>As far as I can we are all good. Thanks for the good work you do.<a href="/wiki/User:Djm-leighpark" title="User:Djm-leighpark">Djm-leighpark</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Djm-leighpark" title="User talk:Djm-leighpark">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T10:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T10:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Djm-leighpark-2019-03-20T10:40:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-20T09:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong" data-mw-thread-id="h-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"><span id="Relisting_discussion_.E2.80.93_something_went_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"></span>Relisting discussion – something went wrong<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong"></span>Hey, just to let you know – while relisting <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mark_L._Hunt" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark L. Hunt">this AfD discussion</a>, you've placed an appropriate template on the discussion's page and you've added an entry to the today's log <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mark_L._Hunt&diff=prev&oldid=888841045">[4]</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2019_March_21&diff=prev&oldid=888841048">[5]</a>, but you've not removed it from the March 14 log. I've got it done for you <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2019_March_14&diff=888863735&oldid=888856634">[6]</a>. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Tymon.r" title="User:Tymon.r"><span style="color:darkorange;">Tymon.</span><span style="color:red;">r</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tymon.r" title="User talk:Tymon.r"><small><span style="color:navy;">Do you have any questions?</span></small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z-Relisting_discussion_–_something_went_wrong"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-21T22:45:00.000Z-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"></span>That's weird. I use a script to close/relist and it usually takes care of this automatically. Anyway, thanks for correcting this glitch. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-21T22:45:00.000Z-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-21T22:45:00.000Z-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-21T22:45:00.000Z-Tymon.r-2019-03-21T22:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jean_Mill" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jean_Mill-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jean_Mill-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Jean_Mill" title="Jean Mill">Jean Mill</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jean_Mill-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span>Hello, wondering why you have relisted the afd. The afd was already relisted twice. The votes seemed to be a clear <b>Keep</b>. The votes were 6 Keep and 2 redirect. </p> <ul><li>March 7 Afd</li> <li>March 14 Afd relisted</li> <li>March 21 Afd relisted 6 votes keep 2 votes redirect</li> <li>March 28 Afd relisted by Randykitty</li></ul> <p>Thank you <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lubbad85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lubbad85 (page does not exist)">Lubbad85</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lubbad85" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lubbad85">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z-Jean_Mill" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:56:00.000Z-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"></span>I didn't think that consensus was so clear and the discussion seemed ongoing. Indeed, after I relisted there was more discussion. In such a case I find a "no consensus" close unsatisfactory. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:56:00.000Z-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:56:00.000Z-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:56:00.000Z-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T01:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T15:08:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span>Thank you for the response. It seems that Wikipedia has clear ideas about what should happen. yet here we are. </p><p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lubbad85&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lubbad85 (page does not exist)">Lubbad85</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lubbad85" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lubbad85">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T15:08:00.000Z-Jean_Mill" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T15:08:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lubbad85-2019-03-29T15:08:00.000Z-Jean_Mill"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crapwatch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crapwatch-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crapwatch-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"></span>Crapwatch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crapwatch-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z-Crapwatch"></span>I know we have disagreements from time to time (always colloquial however), but I'd appreciate some support <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom#Late_ish_submission:_The_Wikipedia_Crapwatch" title="Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom">here</a> if you think the Crapwatch is a good initiative. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z-Crapwatch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z-Crapwatch"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z-Crapwatch"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T14:48:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"></span>Good job! I've made a few comments. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T14:48:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T14:48:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T14:48:00.000Z-Headbomb-2019-03-28T12:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_about_relist_after_no_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span>Question about relist after no comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments"></span>Hi! <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Radio-controlled_drifting" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio-controlled drifting">This AfD</a> was relisted after receiving no comments despite being on two delsorts. My understanding is that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOQUORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOQUORUM">WP:NOQUORUM</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIST">WP:RELIST</a> both state that AfD's with no comments are treated as expired PRODs, right? Just asking for clarification :) Thanks! — <a href="/wiki/User:MarkH21" title="User:MarkH21">MarkH21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarkH21" title="User talk:MarkH21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z-Question_about_relist_after_no_comments"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span>That's correct, but generally I don't close as "soft delete" without at least one relist to give the community the chance to chime in. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Got it, thanks! — <a href="/wiki/User:MarkH21" title="User:MarkH21">MarkH21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarkH21" title="User talk:MarkH21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarkH21-2019-03-28T18:16:00.000Z-Randykitty-2019-03-28T18:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Proposed_Portland_Ballpark&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Proposed Portland Ballpark (page does not exist)">Proposed Portland Ballpark</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:SportsFan007" title="User:SportsFan007"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark"></span>User:SportsFan007</a> has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2019_March_28#Proposed_Portland_Ballpark" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2019 March 28">deletion review</a> of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Proposed_Portland_Ballpark&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Proposed Portland Ballpark (page does not exist)">Proposed Portland Ballpark</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —<a href="/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_Proposed_Portland_Ballpark"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:57:00.000Z-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for letting me know, <a href="/wiki/User:Cryptic" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cryptic">Cryptic</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:57:00.000Z-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:57:00.000Z-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T07:57:00.000Z-Cryptic-2019-03-28T22:44:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_you_delete_the_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_you_delete_the_category-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_you_delete_the_category-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"></span>Can you delete the category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_you_delete_the_category-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z-Can_you_delete_the_category"></span>Mentioned in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/K%26C_Video" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/K&C Video">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/K&C Video</a>? I think CfD would be just a speedy delete going through the motions wasting everyone's time. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z-Can_you_delete_the_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:29, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z-Can_you_delete_the_category"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z-Can_you_delete_the_category"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T08:02:00.000Z-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"></span>ALthough I kind of agree with what you say about wasting time, I don't really see a good rationale for deleting out of hand. It would be different if the category creator would support this request. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T08:02:00.000Z-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 29 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T08:02:00.000Z-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-29T08:02:00.000Z-Piotrus-2019-03-29T02:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"></span>Request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z-Request"></span>Hi Randy, </p><p>I wrote an article a while back that was deleted. A few things have changed and I am curious if people would re-consider. I know one of the big issues was related to notability. I think that has changed. As of now, the group is being featured both online and on national radio with Corus Radio (See Links below). </p><p>In addition to this, they were featured on national CBC radio as well as an article on National CBC website (see Below). </p><p>I think together, this certainly increases the notability to the point where it meets wikipedia standards. Obviously, I can add these links to the page if restored. I am not sure how this works, but I thought writting you was the best first step. </p><p>Links/Refs </p><p>Paragon Cause on Global News Canada and Corus Radio - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://globalnews.ca/news/5080513/nighttime-podcast-recap-firearms-arsenal-valentines-day-massacre-plot/">https://globalnews.ca/news/5080513/nighttime-podcast-recap-firearms-arsenal-valentines-day-massacre-plot/</a> Paragon Cause on Global News Canada and Corus Radio - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://globalnews.ca/news/5055265/nighttime-podcast-recap-sasquatch-pictou-county-ns/">https://globalnews.ca/news/5055265/nighttime-podcast-recap-sasquatch-pictou-county-ns/</a> </p><p>Paragon Cause on CBC - <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/new-ontario-songs-1.5010329">https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/new-ontario-songs-1.5010329</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Jbonapar" title="User:Jbonapar">Jbonapar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jbonapar#top" title="User talk:Jbonapar">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jbonapar" title="Special:Contributions/Jbonapar">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 27 March 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z-Request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z-Request"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-27T18:26:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"></span>What was the article? --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-27T18:26:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-27T18:26:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-27T18:26:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-27T18:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z-Request"></span>band- Paragon Cause </p><p>I am not sure how to find a deleted article? <a href="/wiki/User:Jbonapar" title="User:Jbonapar">Jbonapar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jbonapar" title="User talk:Jbonapar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z-Request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z-Request"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:32:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z"></span>I found it via your talk page. You give three links above. The first two just list Paragon Cause. The third is a very brief mention. None of this contributes to notability (please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NBAND" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NBAND">Wp:NBAND</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>). I see no reason to change the outcome of the AfD. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:32:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:32:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:32:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:22:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-Request"></span>Hi Randy, they list the Band in the first two links, but this is a link indicating the band is doing the soundtrack work for this show, which is played internationally on over 39 radiostations now. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Corus_radio&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Corus radio (page does not exist)">Corus radio</a> is one of North America's largest radio groups. I think this is some missunderstanding here. A group that is contrubuting soundtrack work to a show that is internationally known, let alone nationally (ie, top 10 itunes podcasts, plus international play) seems reasonably notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Jbonapar" title="User:Jbonapar">Jbonapar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jbonapar" title="User talk:Jbonapar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-Request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z-Request"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:45:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z"></span>It's just a listing, without any real coverage. What you need are <i>independent</i> sources that discuss the band <i>in-depth</i>. If you disagree with my evaluation, you're welcome to take this to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRV">WP:DRV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:45:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:45:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-03-28T17:45:00.000Z-Jbonapar-2019-03-28T17:42:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-30T14:55:00.000Z-Request"></span> Hi Randy, I'll see what else can be done. I understand your point, but I know there are more details. I'll just post a few below, but at the same time, i'll look to other avenues. We can agree to disagree ;) </p><p>- The band was recently featured on both National CBC Radio (Show: In the key of C, plus national play) - The band was featured on CBC online as one of the top new songs of the week from a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/new-ontario-songs-1.5010329">city outside the bands home city</a> - The band is responsible for soundtrack and theme music for the show <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/nighttime/id1054220508?mt=2">The Nighttime Podcast</a> which is syndicated internationally on <a href="/wiki/Corus_Entertainment" title="Corus Entertainment">corus radio</a>. - this POdcast and radio show, featuring the music of Paragon Cause has over <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.corusent.com/news/nighttime-podcast-joins-corus-entertainments-curiouscast-network/?fbclid=IwAR373T7aLslZjSIsoHaoRHbpWgeh9PdyitHcOiMgRUSlD5p2FF1Sh_Uqsow">5 Million Downloads on itunes!</a> - this POdcast, featuring the bands soundtrack work has reached as high as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.itunescharts.net/can/artists/podcast/jordan-boneparty/podcasts/the-night-time-podcast/">#27 on North American (including the USA) itunes charts</a> - The bands music has been featured on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://globalnews.ca/news/4458500/jordan-bonaparte-nighttime-podcast/">CKNW, CHQR, CHED, CFPL, CHML, and 640 Toronto in addition to these stations</a> - I can post 70 or more of links to the episodes <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nighttimepodcast.com/episodes">but here is a recent one with The band</a> (Paragon Cause) doing soundtrack. The night time podcast and radio show have featured 8 of the bands songs on their show in addition to the theme music. - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BrP4YeyHSZH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link">The band has just recorded an album</a> with Academy Award Nominee and international music star <a href="/wiki/Sune_Rose_Wagner" title="Sune Rose Wagner">Sune Rose Wagner</a> of <a href="/wiki/The_Raveonettes" title="The Raveonettes">the Raveonettes</a> you can see the mention on his instagram page also a<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BreCtvvHHFN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link">nother link where he is mixing our album</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Jbonapar" title="User:Jbonapar">Jbonapar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jbonapar" title="User talk:Jbonapar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Jbonapar-2019-03-30T14:55:00.000Z-Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-30T14:55:00.000Z-Request"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jbonapar-2019-03-30T14:55:00.000Z-Request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="you_are_deleting_my_contributions" data-mw-thread-id="h-you_are_deleting_my_contributions-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-you_are_deleting_my_contributions-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"></span>you are deleting my contributions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-you_are_deleting_my_contributions-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z-you_are_deleting_my_contributions"></span>Please specify why you are deleting the journal of natural resources from the list of environmental journals. I would apreciate if you could explain to me, what must be done to ad the JNRD to this list. (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sciencefortheworld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sciencefortheworld (page does not exist)">Sciencefortheworld</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sciencefortheworld" title="User talk:Sciencefortheworld">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z-you_are_deleting_my_contributions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 1 April 2019 (UTC)</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z-you_are_deleting_my_contributions"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z-you_are_deleting_my_contributions"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T12:42:00.000Z-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"></span>As explained in the edit summaries, have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WTAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WTAF">WP:WTAF</a>. Once an article exists, it can be linked from the list. However, before creating an article, have a look whether the journal actually meets either <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NJOURNALS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NJOURNALS">WP:NJOURNALS</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>. Hope this helps. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T12:42:00.000Z-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T12:42:00.000Z-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T12:42:00.000Z-Sciencefortheworld-2019-04-01T12:39:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"></span>New Wikipedia page for Alphaville Journal- speedy deletion notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice"></span>Hi, sorry new to Wikipedia. On revision, the first publication on the page '<a href="/w/index.php?title=Alphaville:_Journal_of_Film_and_Screen_Media&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Alphaville: Journal of Film and Screen Media (page does not exist)">Alphaville: Journal of Film and Screen Media</a>' clearly did not adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines. Information from this page that read like a promotion for the journal has been removed. I believe the journal is notable as it includes a large number of articles from academic experts from all around the world. It is also the first journal of its kind in Ireland.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Breillyucc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Breillyucc (page does not exist)">Breillyucc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Breillyucc" title="User talk:Breillyucc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z-New_Wikipedia_page_for_Alphaville_Journal-_speedy_deletion_notice"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T16:18:00.000Z-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"></span>Actually, besides being promotional, the article also suffers from a lack of notability. That academic experts published in the journal is irrelevant, as is being the first of its kind in Ireland. What is needed are in-depth independent sources discussing the journal (that would make it meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GNG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GNG">WP:GNG</a>) <i>or</i> indexing in major <i>selective</i> databases. None of this is currently the case. If it is not deleted as spam, I will open <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">a community discussion</a> to delete the article. Sorry about that, but I hope that you understand that a serious encyclopedia has to have clear inclusion criteria. --<a href="/wiki/User:Randykitty" title="User:Randykitty">Randykitty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty#top" title="User talk:Randykitty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23#c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T16:18:00.000Z-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 1 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T16:18:00.000Z-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Randykitty-2019-04-01T16:18:00.000Z-Breillyucc-2019-04-01T16:02:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1232521257">.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk{margin:auto 0;border:1px dashed var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);padding:4px;padding-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-talk-title{font-weight:bold}</style><div class="reflist-talk"> <p class="reflist-talk-title">References</p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://filmstudiesforfree.blogspot.com/2011/08/alphaville-new-journal-of-film-and.html">https://filmstudiesforfree.blogspot.com/2011/08/alphaville-new-journal-of-film-and.html</a></span> </li> </ol></div></div> </div>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23&oldid=1248749350">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Randykitty/Archive_23&oldid=1248749350</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 1 October 2024, at 07:45<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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