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id="toc-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>Refine "What links here" to distinguish links from templates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>Not just 1-to-1 link on Wikidata</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Enable Wikiprojects renaming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikibase_for_Wikiquote"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">7</span> <span>Wikibase for Wikiquote</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SEO_Optimization." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SEO_Optimization."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>SEO Optimization.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SEO_Optimization.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Fix ListeriaBot memory issues</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Add Thank Button by Default to Watchlists and Recent Changes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Add a single template with dropdowns to easily add words in Wiktionary</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>new home page for Chinese Wikinews</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Centralized incident/problem management and tracking for WMF production</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Improve_move_logs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Improve_move_logs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Improve move logs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Improve_move_logs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Computer-aided_document_authoring" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Computer-aided_document_authoring"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Computer-aided document authoring</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Computer-aided_document_authoring-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spoken_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spoken_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Spoken articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Spoken_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Improve the talk pages to be more in line with the article pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Limit Special Prefix subpage level</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Wikimedia Commons Upload wizard default languages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Inline_cite_references" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Inline_cite_references"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Inline cite references</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Inline_cite_references-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>2023 - Warn on moves to sensitive titles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_votes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_votes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Vote counting only counts (+) "support" voting — it should also consider (-) votes</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_votes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Better_tables" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Better_tables"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Better tables</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Better_tables-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Change_this_page_name?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Change_this_page_name?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Change this page name?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Change_this_page_name?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Google_and_Facebook_etc._login"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Google and Facebook etc. login</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-notify_watchers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#notify_watchers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>notify watchers</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-notify_watchers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Wikibreak/OoO autoresponder</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edit_WikiData_easily" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_WikiData_easily"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Edit WikiData easily</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Edit_WikiData_easily-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Global_templates" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Global_templates"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Global templates</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Global_templates-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Add support for user login with Passkeys</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>A warning popup when adding a DAB cat while using HotCat</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Provide_example_code_for_SDC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Provide_example_code_for_SDC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Provide example code for SDC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Provide_example_code_for_SDC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Improve status messages in upload process</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fix_the_upload_wizard" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fix_the_upload_wizard"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Fix the upload wizard</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fix_the_upload_wizard-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Better tracking of template dependencies</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Categorisation_logs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Categorisation_logs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Categorisation logs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">11 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Categorisation_logs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add_save_to_personal_draft_button"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Add save to personal draft button</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#local_securepoll_-_try_this_again"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>local securepoll - try this again</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>PagePile / GULP / lists for automated reports</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to_source_editor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to_source_editor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>On English Wikipedia, add the automatic citation generator from visual editor to source editor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to_source_editor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Reminder_notification" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Reminder_notification"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Reminder notification</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Reminder_notification-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-URI_rot" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#URI_rot"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>URI rot</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-URI_rot-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add_external_link_cites_in_VE"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Add external link cites in VE</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Error check refs before completing a save</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DEFAULTSORT" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DEFAULTSORT"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>DEFAULTSORT</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DEFAULTSORT-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Short_description" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Short_description"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Short description</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Short_description-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Italicize_title" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Italicize_title"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Italicize title</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Italicize_title-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Add/remove various templates from property page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-search_messages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#search_messages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>search messages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-search_messages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-signature_colour" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#signature_colour"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>signature colour</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-signature_colour-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Wikidata: Enable the "class" and "relation" parameters on more constraint types</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikidata_Recent_changes_filter_by_language" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikidata_Recent_changes_filter_by_language"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Wikidata Recent changes filter by language</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul 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.portal-navigation-subtabs>li{margin:0;padding:0}</style><div class="portal-navigation-header" style="background:#36c; color:#fff;display:none;"></div><ul class="portal-navigation-body"><li><span class="portal-navigation-entry"><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox" title="Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey/Sandbox"><span class="tab-selected">Main</span></a></span></li><li><span class="portal-navigation-entry"><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Help_us" title="Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey/Help us"><span class="tab">Help us</span></a></span></li><li><span class="portal-navigation-entry"><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey/FAQ" title="Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey/FAQ"><span class="tab">FAQ</span></a></span></li><li><span class="portal-navigation-entry"></span></li></ul></div></div> <h3 id="Welcome_to_the_sandbox" class="community-wishlist-survey-h3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_to_the_sandbox"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_to_the_sandbox"></span>Welcome to the sandbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_to_the_sandbox"></span></h3> <p>On this page, you can note your early ideas for wishes. This way, you will not forget about these before the next <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey" title="Community Wishlist Survey">Community Wishlist Survey</a> begins. You can come back and refine your ideas any time. </p> <ul><li>Ideas added here do NOT count as wishes for the Survey.</li> <li>We discourage from adding such templates as <i>support</i> or <i>oppose</i>. These do NOT count as votes.</li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Community_Tech" title="Community Tech">Community Tech</a> team will NOT approve or decline any ideas added here.</li></ul> <h3 id="Ideas_for_wishes" class="community-wishlist-survey-h3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ideas_for_wishes"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ideas_for_wishes"></span>Ideas for wishes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ideas_for_wishes"></span></h3> </div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_list(s)_of_Community_Wishlist_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_list(s)_of_Community_Wishlist_Survey"><span id="User_list.28s.29_of_Community_Wishlist_Survey"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_list(s)_of_Community_Wishlist_Survey"></span>User list(s) of Community Wishlist Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_list(s)_of_Community_Wishlist_Survey"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: User list(s) of Community Wishlist Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Du%C5%A1an_Krehe%C4%BE/Community_Wishlist_Survey" title="User:Dušan Kreheľ/Community Wishlist Survey">User:Dušan Kreheľ/Community Wishlist Survey</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="Refine_.22What_links_here.22_to_distinguish_links_from_templates"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span>Refine "What links here" to distinguish links from templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Refine "What links here" to distinguish links from templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-ShakespeareFan00-20230120122200-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>6 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>6 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates"></span>If I'm considering moving a page to a better title, I look at "What links here" to see the implications of the move. Sometimes there are vast numbers of links, but almost all are from one or few navbox templates which appear on many pages, so that the number of changes needed will really be very small. It would be helpful if that listing could distinguish links which are from templates. I wonder if this would be possible, or whether technical issues make it impractical? <a href="/wiki/User:PamD" title="User:PamD">PamD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PamD" title="User talk:PamD">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 7 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z-Refine_"What_links_here"_to_distinguish_links_from_templates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarioGom-2021-09-08T19:59:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span>This would be great for many use cases, if technically feasible. Even when looking at transclusions, it would be nice to be able to find direct transclusions only. Maybe there's even some toolforge service for this kind of advanced filtering? <a href="/wiki/User:MarioGom" title="User:MarioGom">MarioGom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarioGom" title="User talk:MarioGom">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-MarioGom-2021-09-08T19:59:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarioGom-2021-09-08T19:59:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarioGom-2021-09-08T19:59:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:19:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span>YES - agree...no point in not distinguishing links per namespace. Also does not seem too complex. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zblace" title="User:Zblace">Zblace</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zblace" title="User talk:Zblace">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:19:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 11 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:19:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:19:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pols12-2022-01-05T15:35:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span>Similar propositions: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2016/Categories/Search#Hiding_links_through_templates_in_.22what_links_here.22_results" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2016/Categories/Search">“Hide links through templates”</a> in CWS 2016,</li> <li><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14396" class="extiw" title="phab:T14396">“List the template not the pages that use it”</a> as 2008 feature request,</li> <li><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T5241" class="extiw" title="phab:T5241">“Transclusion should produce tree-like results”</a> as 2005 feature request.</li></ul></dd> <dd>-- <a href="/wiki/User:Pols12" title="User:Pols12">Pols12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pols12" title="User talk:Pols12">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Pols12-2022-01-05T15:35:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pols12-2022-01-05T15:35:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pols12-2022-01-05T15:35:00.000Z-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-20221213134700-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span>This idea <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Miscellaneous/Allow_filtering_of_WhatLinksHere_to_remove_links_from_templates" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Miscellaneous/Allow filtering of WhatLinksHere to remove links from templates">came 6th in 2022</a> and was raised as <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T301648" class="extiw" title="phab:T301648">phab:T301648</a> but doesn't seem to be moving quickly yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Certes-20221213134700-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 13 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-20221213134700-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon 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data-mw-thread-id="c-ShakespeareFan00-20230120122200-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ShakespeareFan00-20230120122200-PamD-2021-09-07T07:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"></span>Not just 1-to-1 link on Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Not just 1-to-1 link on Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Certes-20221213135000-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata"></span>Currently, each wikidata entry, representing a concept, are only allowed to link 1 article per each wikipedia, and each wikipedia article can only be allowed to correspond to 1 wikidata entry </p><p>But due to various reasons, including variation between different languages, 1 concept might be represented with multiple articles in some language Wikipedia, while in other cases 1 article might be representing multiple concepts. </p><p>And then there are also Wikipedia written in languages in multiple scripts, that are unable to convert mechanically and thus require individual articles for each concepts. </p><p>They currently cannot be linked to wikidata normally, and require-pre-wikidata-era interwiki links to provide inter-language linking, and creating wikidata items that are completely duplicate of other existing items. </p><p>This should not be the way it work and thus should be modified. <a href="/wiki/User:C933103" title="User:C933103">C933103</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C933103" title="User talk:C933103">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z-Not_just_1-to-1_link_on_Wikidata"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-20221213135000-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia redirects can now be linked to Wikidata items, if you <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Sitelinks_to_redirects#Give_help" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata talk:Sitelinks to redirects">know how</a>, which addresses some but not all of this request. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Certes-20221213135000-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 13 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-20221213135000-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-20221213135000-C933103-2021-09-08T04:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"></span>Enable Wikiprojects renaming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Enable Wikiprojects renaming"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-H78c67c-20230116065200-CX_Zoom-20221218082200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming"></span>From at least year 2006, a number of wikipedia and other wikiprojects have been trying to change their language code. However, even after more than 1.5 decades, due to <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172035">a number of technical roadblocks</a>, this is not currently possible, and the only site that have gone through such process, from be-x-old to be-tarask, is under a perpetual state of technical issues, for example Content Translation tool still fail to function properly for the wiki due to the change in code. </p><p>In order to fix the editing environment and to correct the name and language codes of all the wikis being affected, it is necessary to clear all technical roadblock, which have existed for more than a decade already. </p><p>Examples of affected site (While most of the following used Wikipedia URL as example, other non-wikipedia sites for these languages are also being affected, and in some cases are also blocking the creation of new projects for these languages due to intention to avoid related technical troubles) </p> <ol><li>be-x-old.wikipedia.org was renamed be-tarask.wikipedia.org</li> <li>There are petition to rename no.wikipedia.org into nb.wikipedia.org , so as to reflect the site's language being Norwegian Bokmål</li> <li>simple.wikipedia.org should be changed to en-simple.wikipedia.org, in order to reflect it is a Wikipedia for Simple English, and comply with the language tagging standard</li> <li>Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia sh.wikipedia.org currently use a language code sh. But the language code have been invalid since year 2000. The language code for the language is now hbs and proposal have been made to move the wiki to hbs.wikipedia.org accordingly.</li> <li>Classical Chinese Wikipedia, currently located at zh-classical.wikipedia.org, have its own language code lzh, so it have been suggested to move to lzh.wikipedia.org.</li> <li>Cantonese Wikipedia, zh-yue.wikipedia.org, being described as Wikipedia for a variant of Chinese speaking in Guangdong, Guangxi, Hong Kong, Macau, and in diaspora around the world, is usually considered a language, and have its ISO language code "yue" Thus proposal have been made to remove the "zh-" and just use the standard language code for the wikipedia's URL, turning it into yue.wikipedia.org.</li> <li>Min Nan Wikipedia, aka the Wikipedia for Minnanese and Taiwanese, is now located at zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org, due to the way tsome classify the language. However, the language have an official language code "nan", and proposal have been made to move the site to nan.wikipedia.org, accordingly.</li> <li>Swiss German Wikipedia, which have been placed under als.wikipedia.org, have since year 2005 received official language code "gsw", and is thus desirable to change the wiki's link to gsw.wikipedia.org</li> <li>Syriac Wikipedia, is now currently working under another name of Aramaic Wikipedia, at arc.wikipedia.org, which is an historical language which have disappeared long ago, and is not the language of the project. It would be favorable to change its name to Syriac Wikipedia and change its link to syc.wikipedia.org, to properly reflect the language used in the Wikipedia.</li> <li>Norman language from Normandy is now having a wikipedia at nrm.wikipedia.org. Yet "nrm" is actually a language code for Narom language from Malaysia. Hence it have been proposed to change the wiki's URL from nrm.wikipedia.org to nrf.wikipedia.org to reflect the correct language code for the Norman language.</li> <li>The Wikipedia for Emilian language from Italy, currently located at eml.wikipedia.org, is actually using the old language code for the combined "Emilian-Romagnol language". As the language code have been separated and Emilian language is encoded as "egl", it have been proposed to change the link to egl.wikipedia.org, although there are also opinion against such change</li> <li>Võro language from Estonia, as part of the Finno-Ugrian languages, now have their Wikipedia at fiu-vro.wikipedia.org. Since the language received its own language code in 2009 as "vro", it have been desired tom move the site to vro.wikipedia.org</li> <li>Currently, bh.wikipedia.org is used by Wikipedia of Bhojpuri language in the Bihari languages group from India. Yet the language code "bh" have been deprecated, separating into individual language codes for each language, with Bhojpuri having the code "bho", and thus proposal have been made to move the wiki to bho.wikipedia.org, to avoid confusion with other Bihari languages.</li> <li>cbk-zam.wikipedia.org is the URL for Wikipedia in Zamboangueño dialect of Chavacano language. As the dialect have been said as the only living version of the language from the Philippines, proposal have been made to move it directly to cbk.wikipedia.org representing the language.</li> <li>The Wikipedia for the Eastern Baltic language of Samogitian, have received its own language code "sgs", and thus proposal have been made to move the wiki's location from the current location of bat-smg.wikipedia.org to sgs.wikipedia.org.</li> <li>Aromanian Wikipedia, is currently located at roa-rup.wikipedia.org, with rup representing Aromanian language roa supposedly mean "Other romance languages", which is meaningless, and thus should be moved to simply rup.wikipedia.org.</li> <li>Currently, there is an "Old Wikisource" located at www.wikisource.org. It have been proposed to rename it as Multilingual Wikisource and be moved to mul.wikisource.org, to better reflect its nature of collecting text in multiple languages that don't have their own wikisource projects.</li></ol> <p>All of the above moving/renaming have been blocked for up to 16 years as of 2022 due to various bugs in the MediaWiki software. Fixing them would have helped users of all these wikis by able to associate their language and their language code to the wiki sites they use appropriately.<a href="/wiki/User:C933103" title="User:C933103">C933103</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C933103" title="User talk:C933103">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z-Enable_Wikiprojects_renaming"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"></span>Asking here would be more nonsense than useful, since this is already mentioned via <a href="/wiki/Limits_to_configuration_changes#Changes_that_are_likely_to_be_stalled,_though_not_declined" title="Limits to configuration changes">Limits_to_configuration_changes#Changes_that_are_likely_to_be_stalled,_though_not_declined</a>, also as Krenair mentioned elsewhere, renaming of a database name would not be possible due to the MediaWiki compatible requirements. --<a href="/wiki/User:Liuxinyu970226" title="User:Liuxinyu970226">Liuxinyu970226</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liuxinyu970226" title="User talk:Liuxinyu970226">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-08T06:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z"></span>It is not the first time a similar proposal was submitted to community wishlist, and last time I get a response that there are some technical roadblock that can indeed be helped by community tech team.<a href="/wiki/User:C933103" title="User:C933103">C933103</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C933103" title="User talk:C933103">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z-Liuxinyu970226-2021-09-10T04:18:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span 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But isn't there a much easier way to do this? Let's say foo.wikipedia has to be changed to bar.wikipedia . Instead of changing the code from one to another, we make foo.wikipedia read-only for a day or two. foo.wikipedia's entire database is extracted which contains all pages and page history. A separate wiki (fork) is created at bar.wikipedia with that database dump. Forks don't have any specific technical issues afaik. Now, the foo.wikipedia domain is permanently redirected to bar.wikipedia and all old data erased. Editing is resumed at bar.wikipedia. How is this not feasible? Why use the hard way when this easier alternative is available? —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221218082200-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 18 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218082200-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221218082200-C933103-2021-09-10T20:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-H78c67c-20230116065200-CX_Zoom-20221218082200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a>:</span> You might want to take a look at the pontential issues with the approach you described here: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30441#6213240" class="extiw" title="phab:T30441">phab:T30441#6213240</a>, <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T30441#6214672" class="extiw" title="phab:T30441">phab:T30441#6214672</a> <a href="/wiki/User:H78c67c" title="User:H78c67c"><span style="color:#000;">H78c67c</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:H78c67c" title="User talk:H78c67c"><span style="background:black;color:#000;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-H78c67c-20230116065200-CX_Zoom-20221218082200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 16 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-H78c67c-20230116065200-CX_Zoom-20221218082200"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-H78c67c-20230116065200-CX_Zoom-20221218082200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikibase_for_Wikiquote" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"></span>Wikibase for Wikiquote<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Wikibase for Wikiquote"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:24:00.000Z-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote"></span>The wikiquote project would gain in simplicity if the citations were stored in a wikibase. A translation of the quotation in each language would be easier, and the feeding of this database would be simpler. </p><p>There would be no need for a lot of properties to describe the quotations, author, language of the quotation, text of the quotation, language of the translation text of the translation, source, context of the quotation, date of the quotation. The difficulty will surely be to create the contribution interface and to succeed in describing the source of the citation. </p><p>— <a href="/wiki/User:Koreller" title="User:Koreller">Koreller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koreller" title="User talk:Koreller">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z-Wikibase_for_Wikiquote"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:24:00.000Z-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"></span>Smart idea! Worth the effort for sure. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zblace" title="User:Zblace">Zblace</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zblace" title="User talk:Zblace">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:24:00.000Z-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:24:00.000Z-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:24:00.000Z-Koreller-2021-09-08T19:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SEO_Optimization." data-mw-thread-id="h-SEO_Optimization.-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SEO_Optimization.-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"></span>SEO Optimization.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SEO_Optimization.-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: SEO Optimization."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-C933103-2022-01-16T12:25:00.000Z-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z-SEO_Optimization."></span>Sites like WIkiwands which aggregate WIkipedia content and then represent them to readers are frequently spotted on search engine result at about as high or sometime higher place than Wikipedia itself. While it's nothing og fault to have Wikipedia content rehosted and represent in different style as long as copyright and content origin are properly represented, increased readership on third party sites instead of Wikipedia itself could have a potential of leading to less chance of attracting readers into contributing to Wikipedia since those third party sites usually don't have as obvious direct link to let readers contribute to Wikipedia when they see something isn't properly written, and in the long term it could lead to a reduction in number of new Wikipedia editors and could be bad to the long term suvival of the project. Wikipedia the site itself, together with other wikiproject sites, can probably use better SEO, so that readers are attracted to read Wiki content on sites directly managed under WMF which also provide clear guidance toward new user on how to help and contribute to the project and have the potential to attract more editors in the long run.<a href="/wiki/User:C933103" title="User:C933103">C933103</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C933103" title="User talk:C933103">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z-SEO_Optimization." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 15 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z-SEO_Optimization."><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z-SEO_Optimization."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Looking at the interest group and the website itself(<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.similarweb.com/website/wikiwand.com/">https://www.similarweb.com/website/wikiwand.com/</a>), I think the wikipedia mobile UI is at fault. Better UI longer retention time+less bounce --> higher SEO rank. Wikipedia seriously needs to upgrade it's mobile experience, mobile should be the main focus. <a href="/wiki/User:Greatder" title="User:Greatder">Greatder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Greatder" title="User talk:Greatder">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 10 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z-C933103-2021-09-15T10:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C933103-2022-01-16T12:25:00.000Z-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z"></span>The site you linked currently claim Wikipedia have a bit higher retention time than wikiwand. But one interesting thing is that the site also claim most traffic from another site to wikiwand are from wikipedia? <a href="/wiki/User:C933103" title="User:C933103">C933103</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C933103" title="User talk:C933103">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C933103-2022-01-16T12:25:00.000Z-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 16 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C933103-2022-01-16T12:25:00.000Z-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C933103-2022-01-16T12:25:00.000Z-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z"></span>Fix ListeriaBot memory issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Fix ListeriaBot memory issues"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-MarioGom-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:ListeriaBot" title="User:ListeriaBot"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarioGom-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues"></span>ListeriaBot</a> is used to automatically maintain lists of Wikidata items in various Wikipedias. It is used intensively by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a> in various languages, as well as other projects (<a class="external text" href="https://templatecount.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=en&namespace=10&name=Wikidata_list#bottom">3,204 lists in English</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://templatecount.toolforge.org/index.php?lang=fr&namespace=10&name=Wikidata+list#bottom">1,152 in French</a>).</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> Since the release of ListeriaBot v2, there is a problem with lists with many links to big entities (for example, links to countries), which make the list generation fail. See some previous discussions: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Archive_97#Workaround_to_ListeriaBot_crashes" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Archive 97">1</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_nationality/Israel#No_ListeriaBot_update" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Israel">2</a>.</p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> <p>The issue is reported in the official repository: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/magnusmanske/listeria_rs/issues/66">magnusmanske/listeria_rs#66</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:MarioGom" title="User:MarioGom">MarioGom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarioGom" title="User talk:MarioGom">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-MarioGom-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarioGom-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarioGom-2021-09-15T17:49:00.000Z-Fix_ListeriaBot_memory_issues"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span>Add Thank Button by Default to Watchlists and Recent Changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Add Thank Button by Default to Watchlists and Recent Changes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Certes-20221213135400-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes"></span>We have a lot of scholarly evidence that the Thank feature improves the general social dynamic on our Wikis, for example, this <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://osf.io/ueq5f/">recent paper</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://citizensandtech.org/2020/06/effects-of-saying-thanks-on-wikipedia/">summarized here</a>. However, the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Thanks" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Thanks">thanks button right now</a> in the default interface is living only in the history page of articles, not in many of the places where experienced editors interact with diffs (watchlists, recent changes feeds, etc). There is a user script on English Wikipedia that implements a thanks feature in other feeds ( see <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Evad37/Thanky.js">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Evad37/Thanky.js</a> ) but this is a super hidden feature -- and for most wikis, having to configure a script is too high of a technical threshold for most users, especially the ones we want to interact with other users: newbies. The number of newbies looking at individual history pages, is miniscule.<a href="/wiki/User:Sadads" title="User:Sadads">Sadads</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sadads" title="User talk:Sadads">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z-Add_Thank_Button_by_Default_to_Watchlists_and_Recent_Changes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:28:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span>Good idea. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zblace" title="User:Zblace">Zblace</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zblace" title="User talk:Zblace">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:28:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:28:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zblace-2021-12-11T04:28:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span>It could be enabled locally as a Gadget (maybe by default?). <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 29 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2022-01-29T20:56:00.000Z-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z"></span>This does not seem like an issue concerning only a local wiki. <span style="display:inline-block;text-align:center;vertical-align:bottom;line-height:0.5em;">~~~~<br/><span style="font-size:0.7em;"><a href="/wiki/User:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User:1234qwer1234qwer4">User:1234qwer1234qwer4</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4">talk</a>)</span></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2022-01-29T20:56:00.000Z-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 29 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2022-01-29T20:56:00.000Z-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2022-01-29T20:56:00.000Z-Qwerfjkl-2021-12-29T19:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Certes-20221213135400-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span>Good idea. I've implemented this locally using TamperMonkey but official support would be better. More controversially, add an undo link too, perhaps disabled by default to deter abuse but selectable in preferences. An argument against is one should view the edit before thanking (or undoing); the refutation is that I use <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Popups" class="extiw" title="en:WP:Popups">Popups</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Certes" title="User:Certes">Certes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Certes" title="User talk:Certes">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Certes-20221213135400-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 13 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Certes-20221213135400-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Certes-20221213135400-Sadads-2021-10-07T23:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z"></span>Add a single template with dropdowns to easily add words in Wiktionary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Add a single template with dropdowns to easily add words in Wiktionary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary"></span>When adding a word on bn.wiktionary I just add meaning, parts of speech, language. I would like a straightforward way to do this, without remembering all the templates, special structures. This will also encourage new contributors to add words easily. <a href="/wiki/User:Greatder" title="User:Greatder">Greatder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Greatder" title="User talk:Greatder">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Greatder-2021-11-10T16:24:00.000Z-Add_a_single_template_with_dropdowns_to_easily_add_words_in_Wiktionary"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews" data-mw-thread-id="h-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"></span>new home page for Chinese Wikinews<span data-mw-comment-end="h-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: new home page for Chinese Wikinews"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-CX_Zoom-20221218082600-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews"></span>Design and provide a new home page for Chinese Wikinews that is beautiful and modern.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kitabc12345" title="User:Kitabc12345">Kitabc12345</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kitabc12345" title="User talk:Kitabc12345">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 20 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z-new_home_page_for_Chinese_Wikinews"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218082600-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kitabc12345" title="User:Kitabc12345">Kitabc12345</a>: Main pages are maintained by that site's editing community. Community wishlist team can't help with that. If you want to design a beautiful and modern home page, you need to create appropriate css/html code. You can look at other wiki's main pages for inspiration. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221218082600-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 18 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218082600-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221218082600-Kitabc12345-2021-11-20T14:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production" data-mw-thread-id="h-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"><span id="Centralized_incident.2Fproblem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"></span>Centralized incident/problem management and tracking for WMF production<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Centralized incident/problem management and tracking for WMF production"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tacsipacsi-20230122173200-Snævar-20230121202200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production"></span>We currently use phabricator for bug tracking, feature requests, and other items. A common scenario is that contributors from a WMF project finds something malfunctioning - this may be occurring simultaneously on multiple WMF projects. What happens next: one or more phabricator tasks get opened, reporting instances - this works OK, and bug wranglers will merge duplicate reports. Next, if confirmed someone may decide to work on the problem. A common scenario is that the problem is code in need of improvement, and someone working on it may create some new code, and the new code may be released. At this point all of the tracking comes to an end - however notably this does not mean that from the point of view of the original reporters that their actual production problem is resolved. Why - because that doesn't mean that WMF servers are actually running the new code, and it certainly doesn't mean that resolution acceptance in production has occurred. What is lacking here? Tracking of the actual incident and/or problem from report to resolution. Additionally, no information about the priority (the impact and urgency) of the incident or problem is gathered (a priority field that can be misleading is tracked, but this is the priority that software developers are declaring). The primary place that incident tracking may be occurring is on disparate wiki pages across all projects. So what is lacking: A process and system to manage and track actual incident reports. This could be phabricator, however this is going to require more of a human element and mindset improvement than just technology. Should this be a call to help to the volunteer community - a call to help to ask WMF to assign some of this "service desk" functions to staff - not sure right now (still sandboxing) - any idea welcome below! — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z-Centralized_incident/problem_management_and_tracking_for_WMF_production"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snævar-20230121202200-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"></span>I think phabricator needs a bot that makes an edit to tasks that have an merged change (that is not an cherry-pick) and where the task has been closed, mentioning when the change will be deployed. There can be multiple patches per task, so submitting for each one of them would not be helpful. Cherry-picks are changes that have been picked for deployment, and are often deployed ahead of the train of deployments, they often also specify when the deployment has been made. <a href="/wiki/User:Sn%C3%A6var" title="User:Snævar">Snævar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sn%C3%A6var" title="User talk:Snævar">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Snævar-20230121202200-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 21 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snævar-20230121202200-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snævar-20230121202200-Xaosflux-2021-11-23T12:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230122173200-Snævar-20230121202200"></span>What about modifying gerritbot to include the estimated deployment date in the message about merging the patch? While this is not 100% reliable (the train can be cancelled, blocked etc.), it should be correct in most cases. Additional messages after the change has actually been deployed spam Phabricator, even in cases where everyone interested perfectly knows the timeline (which I think means the majority of tickets). Or enhance the Gerrit changes table to include the first train branch it was included in (if there’s any), linking to a page (e.g. on Toolforge) that explains when that particular patch was installed on which wiki – this wouldn’t predict anything before the branch cut, nor would it be sent out in notification emails, but it would be 100% reliable without spamming users. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20230122173200-Snævar-20230121202200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 22 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230122173200-Snævar-20230121202200"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20230122173200-Snævar-20230121202200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Improve_move_logs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Improve_move_logs-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Improve_move_logs-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Improve move logs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Improve_move_logs-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Improve move logs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-TheresNoTime-20230125033800-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66184" class="extiw" title="phab:T66184"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z-Improve_move_logs"></span>phab:T66184</a> / <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152829" class="extiw" title="phab:T152829">phab:T152829</a> -- in short, make the move log better, including indexing it by the target page(s). — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z-Improve_move_logs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 29 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z-Improve_move_logs"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z-Improve_move_logs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Giraffer-2022-01-06T17:57:00.000Z-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span>This would be immensely useful, especially for people like myself who often cleanup spam – lots of spammers will recreate deleted pages by moving an account's sandbox to the (deleted) article's location, and should that article get deleted again, it's basically impossible to find out who made it (since page creation logs don't move with the page, and the move log doesn't show the origin). This would be great to see happen. <a href="/wiki/User:Giraffer" title="User:Giraffer">Giraffer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giraffer" title="User talk:Giraffer">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Giraffer-2022-01-06T17:57:00.000Z-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Giraffer-2022-01-06T17:57:00.000Z-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Giraffer-2022-01-06T17:57:00.000Z-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083000-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span>+1</b> to Giraffer and Xaosflux. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221218083000-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 18 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083000-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083000-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheresNoTime-20230125033800-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Comment"><img alt="Comment" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_comment_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_comment_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Code review appreciated</b> at <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/762102" class="extiw" title="gerrit:762102">762102: Allow searching the move log by destination title</a>! A PatchDemo instance for this patch exists at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/770dbdaea0/w">https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/770dbdaea0/w</a> to assist — <a href="/wiki/User:TheresNoTime" title="User:TheresNoTime">TheresNoTime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheresNoTime" title="User talk:TheresNoTime">talk</a> • they/them) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-TheresNoTime-20230125033800-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheresNoTime-20230125033800-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheresNoTime-20230125033800-Xaosflux-2021-12-29T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Computer-aided_document_authoring" data-mw-thread-id="h-Computer-aided_document_authoring-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Computer-aided_document_authoring-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z"></span>Computer-aided document authoring<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Computer-aided_document_authoring-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Computer-aided document authoring"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-AdamSobieski-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z-Computer-aided_document_authoring">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdamSobieski-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z-Computer-aided_document_authoring"></span>MediaWiki software could support and interoperate with an extensible set of <i>server-side document-processing tools</i>. The outputs of these tools can be represented as <i>annotations</i>. These output annotations can be merged, aggregated, and presented to end-users as they edit, view, or view more information about wiki documents. </p><p>As envisioned, there are two flavors of server-side document-processing tools. </p><p>Firstly, server-side document-processing tools can be of use for computer programming languages. Tools, in these regards, include parsers and compilers which can output annotations such as informational, warning, and error messages about portions of source code. </p><p>Secondly, server-side document-processing tools can be of use for natural languages. Tools, in these regards, include: spellchecking, grammar checking, readability analysis, sentiment analysis, analysis of subjectivity and objectivity, fact-checking, reasoning checking, and argument verification and validation. </p><p>Were MediaWiki to support an extensible set of server-side document processing tools, this could result in a new <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Extensions">type of extension</a>. </p><p>Some benefits of enhancing computer-aided document authoring are indicated: </p><p><b>Wikifunctions</b>. This project could be enhanced with the first flavor of server-side document-processing tools, wrappers for various server-side parsers and compilers, e.g., Python. </p><p><b>Wikipedia</b> and <b>Wikinews</b>. These projects could be enhanced with the second flavor of server-side document-processing tools, natural-language processing tools. </p><p><b>Downstream projects</b>. Users of MediaWiki software would be able to create new solutions with MediaWiki and related extensions should MediaWiki come to support enhanced computer-aided document authoring. </p><p>More discussion about computer-aided document authoring is available here: <a href="/wiki/Wikianswers/Technical_discussion/Computer-aided_document_authoring" title="Wikianswers/Technical discussion/Computer-aided document authoring">Wikianswers/Technical_discussion/Computer-aided_document_authoring</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AdamSobieski" title="User:AdamSobieski">AdamSobieski</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AdamSobieski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:AdamSobieski (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-AdamSobieski-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z-Computer-aided_document_authoring" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 30 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdamSobieski-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z-Computer-aided_document_authoring"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AdamSobieski-2021-12-30T02:58:00.000Z-Computer-aided_document_authoring"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spoken_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spoken_articles-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spoken_articles-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"></span>Spoken articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spoken_articles-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Spoken articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bluerasberry-20230105184600-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z-Spoken_articles"></span>Attempts to make Wikimedia articles spoken have failed or the number of audios compared to the number of articles is negligible. </p><p>Therefore, one of the possible ways to expand and improve this idea is to make software that reads (with pre-established rulesª) the text of articles in all Wikimedia projects in all languages, thus making it possible for people to choose to listen or read, notice misspellings more easily to fix them and the visually impaired can benefit from this. </p><p>ª - Rules such as: "Read: '{{Article name}}, in Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia at en.wikipedia.org'" / "ignore sections 'See also', 'Notes' 'References', ' Futher reading', etc. "... --<a href="/wiki/User:N4CH77" title="User:N4CH77">N4CH77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:N4CH77" title="User talk:N4CH77">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z-Spoken_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 9 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z-Spoken_articles"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z-Spoken_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AdamSobieski-2022-01-10T11:09:00.000Z-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"></span>You might find interesting <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/publishing/epub3/epub-contentdocs.html#sec-pls">pronunciation lexicons for XHTML</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/publishing/epub3/epub-contentdocs.html#sec-xhtml-ssml-attrib">SSML attributes in XHTML</a>. There could be wiki syntax, possibly templates, for listing pronunciations which could be aggregated into <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-lexicon/">pronunciation lexicon resources</a> referenced with document metadata. There could also be one or more wiki templates for rendering XHTML spans with SSML attributes. As for which document content to synthesize, this could also be done using cascading stylesheets using the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/css-speech-1/">CSS Speech Module</a>, specifically <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.w3.org/TR/css-speech-1/#speaking-props-speak">the <code>speak</code> property</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AdamSobieski" title="User:AdamSobieski">AdamSobieski</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AdamSobieski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:AdamSobieski (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-AdamSobieski-2022-01-10T11:09:00.000Z-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AdamSobieski-2022-01-10T11:09:00.000Z-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-37" 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id="c-Bluerasberry-20230105184600-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"></span>Wikispeech</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia">Wikipedia:WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia</a> and variants at <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1012368" class="extiw" title="d:Q1012368">WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia <small>(Q1012368)</small></a></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e"><b> Bluerasberry </b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluerasberry" title="User talk:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Bluerasberry-20230105184600-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 5 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluerasberry-20230105184600-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bluerasberry-20230105184600-N4CH77-2022-01-09T01:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"></span>Improve the talk pages to be more in line with the article pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Improve the talk pages to be more in line with the article pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-12T10:18:00.000Z-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages"></span>Problem:</b> Wikipedia talk pages are pretty painful to use when there is a large discussion going on. While novel to use at first, getting anything done while using these pages is a bit of an issue. </p><p><b>Solution:</b> Personally, I would prefer if there was a small editable space at the top of the page for applying tags and the rest of the page was like the app. At the very least, there needs to be a better system than indenting with mark-up. I think it would help newbies navigate the site a lot easier, and might make archives redundant. Also, I think new topics should be at the top. </p><p><b>Suggestion by</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TiggyTheTerrible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TiggyTheTerrible (page does not exist)">TiggyTheTerrible</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TiggyTheTerrible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TiggyTheTerrible (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z-Improve_the_talk_pages_to_be_more_in_line_with_the_article_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TiggyTheTerrible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TiggyTheTerrible (page does not exist)">TiggyTheTerrible</a> This is the sandbox page, not the <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022" title="Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2022">actual survey</a>. But no need to create a proposal, because the problems you're describing are/have already been worked on. See <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project">mw:Talk pages project</a>. Thanks for the suggestions, anyway! <a href="/wiki/User:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User:MusikAnimal (WMF)">MusikAnimal (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)" title="User talk:MusikAnimal (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-10T19:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-12T10:18:00.000Z-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z"></span>Ah okay! Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TiggyTheTerrible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TiggyTheTerrible (page does not exist)">TiggyTheTerrible</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TiggyTheTerrible&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TiggyTheTerrible (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-12T10:18:00.000Z-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 12 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-12T10:18:00.000Z-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TiggyTheTerrible-2022-01-12T10:18:00.000Z-MusikAnimal_(WMF)-2022-01-10T19:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level" data-mw-thread-id="h-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span>Limit Special Prefix subpage level<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Limit Special Prefix subpage level"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:20:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level"></span>I would like to add a parameter "level=1" to the <a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex" title="Special:PrefixIndex">Special:PrefixIndex</a> to e.g. limit the list to the first level (main subpages); level=2 would also show the sub-subpages, etc. When there are too many sublevels an unrestricted subpage list confuses the users. Then we could have the same list generating statement on the next sublevel, etc. making it more easy to easily navigate through subpages. </p><p>Example: {{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/|stripprefix=1|level=1}} <a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geert Van Pamel (WMBE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geertivp" title="User talk:Geertivp">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 27 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z-Limit_Special_Prefix_subpage_level"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:20:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span>This proposal is mentioned in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T9184" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T9184">task T9184</a> (dates from 2006!) but it is totally unclear to me if this was ever implemented? <a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geert Van Pamel (WMBE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geertivp" title="User talk:Geertivp">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:20:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:20:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:20:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-01-27T15:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"></span>Wikimedia Commons Upload wizard default languages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Wikimedia Commons Upload wizard default languages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:26:00.000Z-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages"></span>When uploading a media file, the Wikimedia Commons Upload wizard should propose all languages as per the user's #Babel box, so that entering the labels and the short description is just clicking and typing instead of adding each of the other user languages. <a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geert Van Pamel (WMBE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geertivp" title="User talk:Geertivp">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z-Wikimedia_Commons_Upload_wizard_default_languages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geertivp</a>:</span> This looks like a minor and unlikely-to-be-controversial change. You might propose it on <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/" class="extiw" title="phab:">Phabricator</a> and have it implemented in way less than a year, when the next survey will be conducted. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-15T09:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:26:00.000Z-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z"></span>Actually I already created task <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223111" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T223111">task T223111</a> (myself) 3 years ago... clearly not implemented yet - even when this request obviously requires few coding effort? <a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geert Van Pamel (WMBE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geertivp" title="User talk:Geertivp">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:26:00.000Z-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-16T16:26:00.000Z-Tacsipacsi-2022-02-16T11:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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Inline cite references"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Geertivp-2022-02-25T14:34:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-22T23:53:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-22T23:53:00.000Z-Inline_cite_references"></span>Create instant Cite references with the Visual editor omitting the ref-tag, see <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T302355" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T302355">task T302355</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Geertivp" title="User:Geertivp">Geert Van Pamel (WMBE)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geertivp" title="User talk:Geertivp">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Geertivp-2022-02-22T23:53:00.000Z-Inline_cite_references" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geertivp-2022-02-22T23:53:00.000Z-Inline_cite_references"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Geertivp-2022-02-25T14:34:00.000Z-Geertivp-2022-02-22T23:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles" data-mw-thread-id="h-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z"></span>2023 - Warn on moves to sensitive titles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: 2023 - Warn on moves to sensitive titles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles"></span>Follow up from old <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85393" class="extiw" title="phab:T85393">phab:T85393</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-2022-02-26T11:56:00.000Z-2023_-_Warn_on_moves_to_sensitive_titles"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon 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class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XavierItzm-2022-04-08T14:56:00.000Z-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_v"></span>The <b>2022 wishlist survey report</b> vote "counting" reporting only adds those votes which support an idea. </p><p>All (-) «do not support» votes are discarded. The time of those who endeavoured to explain why a proposal might not be productive is considered <i>meaningless</i>. </p><p>Kinda makes pointless voting on these things; I shall not be wasting my time on these surveys anymore unless fixed. Thanks anyway, <a href="/wiki/User:XavierItzm" title="User:XavierItzm">XavierItzm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:XavierItzm" title="User talk:XavierItzm">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-XavierItzm-2022-04-08T14:56:00.000Z-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_v" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XavierItzm-2022-04-08T14:56:00.000Z-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_v"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XavierItzm-2022-04-08T14:56:00.000Z-Vote_counting_only_counts_(+)_"support"_voting_—_it_should_also_consider_(-)_v"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_tables" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_tables-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_tables-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z"></span>Better tables<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_tables-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Better tables"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Klein_Muçi-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z-Better_tables">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klein_Muçi-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z-Better_tables"></span>Currently table wikitext is clunky and very hard to use. Tables are generally hard to edit, esthetically bland and usually even VE isn't enough to make them feel flexible. </p><p>The overall source and visual editing experience with them should be improved. - <a href="/wiki/User:Klein_Mu%C3%A7i" title="User:Klein Muçi">Klein Muçi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Klein_Mu%C3%A7i" title="User talk:Klein Muçi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Klein_Muçi-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z-Better_tables" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klein_Muçi-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z-Better_tables"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klein_Muçi-2022-04-29T02:05:00.000Z-Better_tables"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Change_this_page_name?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Change_this_page_name?-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z"><span id="Change_this_page_name.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Change_this_page_name?-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z"></span>Change this page name?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Change_this_page_name?-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Change this page name?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GhostInTheMachine-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z-Change_this_page_name?">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostInTheMachine-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z-Change_this_page_name?"></span>Sandboxes are generally <i>disposable</i> test pages. Rename this page to "Early suggestions", "Early ideas for wishes", "Possible 2023 suggestions" or "Pending 2023 suggestions". Also, add a more prominent link to this page to the top of the parent page — <a href="/wiki/User:GhostInTheMachine" title="User:GhostInTheMachine">GhostInTheMachine</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostInTheMachine" title="User talk:GhostInTheMachine">talk to me</a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-GhostInTheMachine-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z-Change_this_page_name?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostInTheMachine-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z-Change_this_page_name?"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostInTheMachine-2022-04-29T12:13:00.000Z-Change_this_page_name?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Google_and_Facebook_etc._login" data-mw-thread-id="h-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"></span>Google and Facebook etc. login<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Google and Facebook etc. login"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20221224202300-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login"></span>To make possible to login with other sites' accounts, such as with Google or Facebook. --<a href="/wiki/User:40bus" title="User:40bus">40bus</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:40bus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:40bus (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z-Google_and_Facebook_etc._login"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20221224202300-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"></span>c.f. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138695" class="extiw" title="phab:T138695">phab:T138695</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20221224202300-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20221224202300-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20221224202300-40bus-2022-05-25T09:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="notify_watchers" data-mw-thread-id="h-notify_watchers-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-notify_watchers-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z"></span>notify watchers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-notify_watchers-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: notify watchers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z-notify_watchers">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T310185" class="extiw" title="phab:T310185"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z-notify_watchers"></span>phab:T310185</a> : Be able to make an edit notify page watchers. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z-notify_watchers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z-notify_watchers"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-2022-06-08T15:35:00.000Z-notify_watchers"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder-20220803230500"><span id="Wikibreak.2FOoO_autoresponder"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder-20220803230500"></span>Wikibreak/OoO autoresponder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder-20220803230500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Wikibreak/OoO autoresponder"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tar_Lócesilion-20230101183100-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder"></span>IDK if that'd even be possible; it would be just so useful if I could set up a "wikibreak/OoO" status which would make anyone pinging me/writing on my user talk page get an Echo message informing that the ping worked/edit was saved but wasn't really effective. <a href="/wiki/User:Tar_L%C3%B3cesilion" title="User:Tar Lócesilion">Tar Lócesilion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tar_L%C3%B3cesilion" title="User talk:Tar Lócesilion"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 3 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500-Wikibreak/OoO_autoresponder"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500"></span>On your user talk page, you can use edit notices if your wiki is set up to allow non-admins to create edit notices on user talk pages. As an example, see <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" class="extiw" title="c:User talk:Tacsipacsi">my Commons talk page</a>—if you <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tacsipacsi&action=edit&section=new">create a new topic</a>, a notice appears about how I like to have conversations. (Pay attention, though, that edit notices currently don’t appear in the reply tool, only the new topic tool and the legacy full page editor.) —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 4 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200-Tar_Lócesilion-20220803230500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20230101183100-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200"></span>Thanks @<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a>. I'm familiar with edit notices. That would be a poor ersatz, though. I mostly mean notifications and pings outside of the user talk page namespace. It's more about Admins' noticeboards, WikiProject talk pages, Village Pumps, anywhere where template/gadget maintainers get chased - spaces where someone may ping you specifically and never ask themselves if you're active at a given moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Tar_L%C3%B3cesilion" title="User:Tar Lócesilion">Tar Lócesilion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tar_L%C3%B3cesilion" title="User talk:Tar Lócesilion"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tar_Lócesilion-20230101183100-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20230101183100-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tar_Lócesilion-20230101183100-Tacsipacsi-20220804184200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_WikiData_easily" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_WikiData_easily-20221108201700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_WikiData_easily-20221108201700"></span>Edit WikiData easily<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_WikiData_easily-20221108201700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Edit WikiData easily"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tacsipacsi-20221110221900-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Template:EditAtWikidata" class="extiw" title="w:en:Template:EditAtWikidata"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Edit_WikiData_easily"></span>w:en:Template:EditAtWikidata</a> gives a link to WikiData. Users then have to edit on that website. It would be nicer, and would help Wikidata integration, if a pop-up box or similar appeared instead, allowing users (and readers) to edit Wikidata from Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Edit_WikiData_easily" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Edit_WikiData_easily"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Edit_WikiData_easily"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20221110221900-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span>See <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_Bridge" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikidata Bridge">mw:Wikidata Bridge</a>. However, its development halted a while ago (without being explicitly declined), so making it a wish could help it get continued. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20221110221900-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20221110221900-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20221110221900-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Global_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Global_templates-20221108201700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Global_templates-20221108201700"></span>Global templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Global_templates-20221108201700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Global templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Midleading-20231125080100-CX_Zoom-20221218083800">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Global_templates"></span>It would be useful if a template could be created in meta, and able to use on all (language) wikis, similarly to global userpages. <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl" title="User:Qwerfjkl">Qwerfjkl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Global_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Global_templates"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700-Global_templates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20221213213300-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span>c.f. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121470" class="extiw" title="phab:T121470">phab:T121470</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20221213213300-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 13 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20221213213300-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20221213213300-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083800-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span>Not in meta perhaps, because meta templates are managed according to local usage. I'd appreciate a repository.wikimedia.org that contains everything for centralised usage. Can be invoked by something like {{#repo:ping}} <span style="font-size: smaller; line-height: 130%;">(similar to {{#invoke:)</span> to use Template:Ping at the repository locally. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221218083800-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 18 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083800-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221218083800-Qwerfjkl-20221108201700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Midleading-20231125080100-CX_Zoom-20221218083800"></span>This would soon be obsolete, replaced by <a href="/wiki/Wikifunctions" title="Wikifunctions">Wikifunctions</a>, when #wikifunctions magic word becomes available on all wikis to call out to <a href="/wiki/Wikifunctions" title="Wikifunctions">Wikifunctions</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Midleading&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Midleading (page does not exist)">Midleading</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Midleading" title="User talk:Midleading">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Midleading-20231125080100-CX_Zoom-20221218083800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:01, 25 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Midleading-20231125080100-CX_Zoom-20221218083800"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Midleading-20231125080100-CX_Zoom-20221218083800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys-20221214161600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys-20221214161600"></span>Add support for user login with Passkeys<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys-20221214161600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Add support for user login with Passkeys"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20221214210100-Agusbou2015-20221214161600">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Agusbou2015-20221214161600-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys"></span>I will propose to add support for user login with Passkeys, a passwordless authentication system. --<a href="/wiki/User:Agusbou2015" title="User:Agusbou2015">Agusbou2015</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Agusbou2015" title="User talk:Agusbou2015">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Agusbou2015-20221214161600-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 14 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Agusbou2015-20221214161600-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Agusbou2015-20221214161600-Add_support_for_user_login_with_Passkeys"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20221214210100-Agusbou2015-20221214161600"></span>c.f. <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T321708" class="extiw" title="phab:T321708">phab:T321708</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20221214210100-Agusbou2015-20221214161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 14 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20221214210100-Agusbou2015-20221214161600"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-JopkeB-20230125053400-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JopkeB-20221216054200-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"></span>See <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-HotCat.js#Could_a_warning_popup_appear_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat?" class="extiw" title="c:MediaWiki talk:Gadget-HotCat.js">MediaWiki talk:Gadget-HotCat.js#Could a warning popup appear when adding a DAB cat while using HotCat?</a>. </p> <ul><li><b>Problem</b>: If you try to add a Disambiguation category (DAB category) to a file or category using HotCat, you cannot see that it is a DAB category. So a lot of DAB categories have files and/or subcategories, see <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Non-empty_disambiguation_categories" class="extiw" title="c:Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories">c:Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories</a> (not only due to HotCat). But it is undesirable to have files or categories in DAB categories.</li> <li><b>Possible solution</b>: A warning pop-up appears when you try to add a DAB cat via HotCat. That happens already when you try to add a DAB cat via the edit tab. Could such a warning pop-up also appear when you try to add a DAB cat via HotCat?</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:JopkeB" title="User:JopkeB">JopkeB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JopkeB" title="User talk:JopkeB">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-JopkeB-20221216054200-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 16 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JopkeB-20221216054200-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JopkeB-20221216054200-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"></span><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JopkeB-20230125053400-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"></span> I just made a proposal on the Wishlist 2023, see <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023/Multimedia_and_Commons#A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Multimedia and Commons">Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Multimedia and Commons#A warning popup when adding a DAB cat while using HotCat</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:JopkeB" title="User:JopkeB">JopkeB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JopkeB" title="User talk:JopkeB">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-JopkeB-20230125053400-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JopkeB-20230125053400-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JopkeB-20230125053400-A_warning_popup_when_adding_a_DAB_cat_while_using_HotCat"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Provide_example_code_for_SDC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Provide_example_code_for_SDC-20221220185900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Provide_example_code_for_SDC-20221220185900"></span>Provide example code for SDC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Provide_example_code_for_SDC-20221220185900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Provide example code for SDC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123500-C.Suthorn-20221220185900">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220185900-Provide_example_code_for_SDC"></span>Media on commons are expected to contain depicts vid SDC. There are tools like QuickStatements and ACDC but no code examples (in python, php, java, whatever) on how to add/edit SDC programmatically. I would love to add depicts to all my uploads, if I could integrate it in my upload process. But without a tutorial or code examples it simply is to much of an effort. <a href="/wiki/User:C.Suthorn" title="User:C.Suthorn">C.Suthorn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C.Suthorn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C.Suthorn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C.Suthorn-20221220185900-Provide_example_code_for_SDC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 20 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220185900-Provide_example_code_for_SDC"><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C.Suthorn-20221220185900-Provide_example_code_for_SDC"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123500-C.Suthorn-20221220185900"></span>This wish is too vague. If you want submit data programmatically, you have two options: <ol><li>choose a language and use it to send some data to the site (its API),</li> <li>choose a framework that does the above for you and can work with SDC.</li></ol></dd> <dd>For (1), you need to know the language, how to make web requests and what data API will accept. In this case, there is not much to be done. Tutorials are all over the internet, Wikibase API is documented at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/API" class="extiw" title="mw:Wikibase/API">mw:Wikibase/API</a>.</dd> <dd>For (2), it all depends on the chosen framework, but you don't mention any. <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pywikibot" class="extiw" title="mw:Pywikibot">Pywikibot</a> (Python) already supports SDC (and most <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Wikidata" class="extiw" title="mw:Manual:Pywikibot/Wikidata">Wikibase API</a>): <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173195#6165308" class="extiw" title="phab:T173195">phab:T173195#6165308</a>. For Java, there is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/Wikidata/Wikidata-Toolkit">Wikidata Toolkit</a>.</dd> <dd>--<a href="/wiki/User:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User:Matěj Suchánek">Matěj Suchánek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User talk:Matěj Suchánek">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123500-C.Suthorn-20221220185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123500-C.Suthorn-20221220185900"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123500-C.Suthorn-20221220185900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process" data-mw-thread-id="h-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process-20221220190400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process-20221220190400"></span>Improve status messages in upload process<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process-20221220190400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Improve status messages in upload process"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20230104112000-C.Suthorn-20221220190400">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190400-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process"></span>Media uploads to Wikimedia consist of the steps: Uploading, assembling, publishing. In the assembling and publishing steps an upload tool can poll the server for status info. But it is only "assembling" or "publishing". If the server responded with something like "assembling 41%" or "assembling - checking EXIF for malware links" upload tools like UploadWizard, Commopnist, pattypan, Rillke upload tool and every other upload tool could return much more useful info to the user uploading a file. There is a phab task for this. <a href="/wiki/User:C.Suthorn" title="User:C.Suthorn">C.Suthorn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C.Suthorn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C.Suthorn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C.Suthorn-20221220190400-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190400-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190400-Improve_status_messages_in_upload_process"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20230104112000-C.Suthorn-20221220190400"></span>Think this is <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T309094" class="extiw" title="phab:T309094">phab:T309094</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230104112000-C.Suthorn-20221220190400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 4 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230104112000-C.Suthorn-20221220190400"><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230104112000-C.Suthorn-20221220190400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fix_the_upload_wizard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fix_the_upload_wizard-20221220190500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fix_the_upload_wizard-20221220190500"></span>Fix the upload wizard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fix_the_upload_wizard-20221220190500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Fix the upload wizard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20230104111800-C.Suthorn-20230104090500">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190500-Fix_the_upload_wizard"></span>The upload wizard is broken since 2016 and gets brokener every year. It needs to be fixed or reset to pre 2016 software version. <a href="/wiki/User:C.Suthorn" title="User:C.Suthorn">C.Suthorn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C.Suthorn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C.Suthorn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C.Suthorn-20221220190500-Fix_the_upload_wizard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190500-Fix_the_upload_wizard"><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C.Suthorn-20221220190500-Fix_the_upload_wizard"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20221224201700-C.Suthorn-20221220190500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:C.Suthorn" title="User:C.Suthorn">C.Suthorn</a> I know this is a placeholder, but this is going to need a lot more details - you should start getting those together. If there is an existing task (<a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/?project=PHID-PROJ-7gh7qm2t4b6ny5rtublq&statuses=open()&group=none&order=newest#R">see all here</a> about it, note the task number. If there isn't please also open a task in phab with the technical details. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20221224201700-C.Suthorn-20221220190500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 24 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20221224201700-C.Suthorn-20221220190500"><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20221224201700-C.Suthorn-20221220190500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C.Suthorn-20230104090500-Xaosflux-20221224201700"></span>Over the years I opened a number of tasks at phab. - They got closed as not reproducable. The only thinkable solution would be if developers uploaded themselves large numbers of files or large files or both. I have even offered such files for them to try. But there is no interest. I will not again provide details - I have done so too many times.</dd> <dd>But take a look at <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Think_big_-_open_letter_about_Wikimedia_Commons" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Think big - open letter about Wikimedia Commons">c:Commons:Think big - open letter about Wikimedia Commons</a>: "On the one hand, we strongly welcome quick solutions for the most urgent problems such as the upload of content." or at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://adp.gg/R/P/OFROAD">http://adp.gg/R/P/OFROAD</a> as a tool that can upload large files and large numbers of files. <a href="/wiki/User:C.Suthorn" title="User:C.Suthorn">C.Suthorn</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C.Suthorn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C.Suthorn (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-C.Suthorn-20230104090500-Xaosflux-20221224201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C.Suthorn-20230104090500-Xaosflux-20221224201700"><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C.Suthorn-20230104090500-Xaosflux-20221224201700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20230104111800-C.Suthorn-20230104090500"></span>Sorry you are frustrated, as this will go to the larger community if you list it - being able to tell people what they are voting for may help you get more support. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230104111800-C.Suthorn-20230104090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 4 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230104111800-C.Suthorn-20230104090500"><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230104111800-C.Suthorn-20230104090500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies-20221221175100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies-20221221175100"></span>Better tracking of template dependencies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies-20221221175100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Better tracking of template dependencies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-CX_Zoom-20221221175100-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20221221175100-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies"></span>Very often, one template invokes another template, only when some condition is met. When we look into the "WhatLinksHere" of this conditional template, it does not show which template invokes it. As such, it may be modified in a way that breaks its dependency template. Further, if we do find it being used at some articles, it becomes very difficult to track down exactly which template invokes it. It also makes debugging difficult. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221221175100-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:51, 21 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221221175100-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies"><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221221175100-Better_tracking_of_template_dependencies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categorisation_logs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categorisation_logs-20221224074600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categorisation_logs-20221224074600"></span>Categorisation logs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categorisation_logs-20221224074600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Categorisation logs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230125071100-Ooligan-20230125030600">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>11 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>5 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20221224074600-Categorisation_logs"></span>Categorisation logs which are currently only seen at watchlists and recent changes, related changes, should be made into a separate log page that tracks all input and output to the category ever made by anyone. And preserve the history of a category just as we preserve the history of articles. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20221224074600-Categorisation_logs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 24 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20221224074600-Categorisation_logs"><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20221224074600-Categorisation_logs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"></span>Please note that showing categorization changes in watchlists and recent changes is done on a best-effort basis; it doesn’t log pages whose categorization changes due to an edit to an embedded template or based on some condition (e.g. “categorize pages with red links” or “categorize pages that have been marked for deletion for more than a week”). I’d be wary of creating persistent logs with such incomplete data, and I’m not sure if the data could be made more complete (changes to embedded templates could probably be tracked, but this may have performance issues; condition-based categorization may not even be possible to track). —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500-CX_Zoom-20221224074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 25 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20230101154000-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a>: In my opinion, we don't need to attribute every categorisation to the editor of embedded template. [We don't do it currently either, so nothing of value is lost.] All we do is track what enters a category and what exits it, and at what time. Nothing more. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20230101154000-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20230101154000-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500"><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20230101154000-Tacsipacsi-20221225144500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500-CX_Zoom-20230101154000"></span>But what if it enters the category due to a manual edit and exits it due to an edit to a template? Based on the logs, it’d look like as if it was still member of the category, since it was never removed from it. Or vice versa, pages removed from categories that were never added to them in the first place. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500-CX_Zoom-20230101154000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500-CX_Zoom-20230101154000"><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500-CX_Zoom-20230101154000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CX_Zoom-20230102120300-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500"></span>Yeah, I said <span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa); color:var(--color-success,#14866d);">All we do is track what enters a category and what exits it, and at what time. Nothing more.</span> Category logs will maintain a log of entry/exits with time, irrespective of how/why the entry/exit happened. Whenever something enters a category, due to manual edit or edit to a template, it triggers the catlog and is logged, same for exiting members. —‍<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a> <abbr title="en-English, hi-हिंदी, bn-বাংলা">(A/अ/অ)</abbr> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CX_Zoom" title="User talk:CX Zoom">let's talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CX_Zoom" title="Special:Contributions/CX Zoom">contribs</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-CX_Zoom-20230102120300-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CX_Zoom-20230102120300-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500"><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CX_Zoom-20230102120300-Tacsipacsi-20230101221500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230102183200-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"></span>Unless it doesn’t trigger it. Category changes caused by template edits are usually processed sooner or later, but category changes caused by changes to MediaWiki messages (<a href="/wiki/Special:TrackingCategories" title="Special:TrackingCategories">tracking categories</a>), magic words/parser functions or external data (Wikidata, tabular data from Commons) sometimes get stuck for months or even years. And if we ask the sysadmins to solve this caching issue, they’ll probably say “no, we don’t want to blow up the wiki”. So this cannot be better than best-effort. —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Tacsipacsi-20230102183200-CX_Zoom-20230102120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-20230102183200-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-20230102183200-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooligan-20230125030500-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"></span><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Support"><img alt="Support" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- @<a href="/wiki/User:CX_Zoom" title="User:CX Zoom">CX Zoom</a>, This would be helpful. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ooligan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ooligan (page does not exist)">Ooligan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooligan" title="User talk:Ooligan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Ooligan-20230125030500-CX_Zoom-20230102120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooligan-20230125030500-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"><span id="ooui-php-84" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooligan-20230125030500-CX_Zoom-20230102120300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"></span>For 2021 and 2022, I proposed <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Categories/Improve_tracking_of_categorization_changes" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Categories/Improve tracking of categorization changes">Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Categories/Improve tracking of categorization changes</a>. I might give it one more try. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User:Matěj Suchánek">Matěj Suchánek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User talk:Matěj Suchánek">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800-CX_Zoom-20221224074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800-CX_Zoom-20221224074600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20230123090600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"></span>+1 <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nardog&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nardog (page does not exist)">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Nardog-20230123090600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20230123090600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"><span id="ooui-php-86" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20230123090600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooligan-20230125030600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User:Matěj Suchánek">Matěj Suchánek</a>, Please, try again. Thanks, -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ooligan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ooligan (page does not exist)">Ooligan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooligan" title="User talk:Ooligan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Ooligan-20230125030600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooligan-20230125030600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooligan-20230125030600-Matěj_Suchánek-20230114123800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230125071100-Ooligan-20230125030600"></span>It's already done: <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2023/Search_and_Categories/Improve_tracking_of_categorization_changes" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Search and Categories/Improve tracking of categorization changes">Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Search and Categories/Improve tracking of categorization changes</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User:Matěj Suchánek">Matěj Suchánek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mat%C4%9Bj_Such%C3%A1nek" title="User talk:Matěj Suchánek">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230125071100-Ooligan-20230125030600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230125071100-Ooligan-20230125030600"><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matěj_Suchánek-20230125071100-Ooligan-20230125030600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_save_to_personal_draft_button" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button-20221226193100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button-20221226193100"></span>Add save to personal draft button<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button-20221226193100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Add save to personal draft button"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20221227212600-Ideophagous-20221226193100">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ideophagous-20221226193100-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button"></span>When writing new articles, I often can't finish them in one go, and end up having to save my incomplete work in my Google Docs. Why not have a "save to draft" button, so that the last version would automatically be added to User:username/Drafts/title. Meanwhile User:username/Drafts can have a list of all drafts created by the user. Inversely, the draft page can have a button "resume article creation" to return to the article creation page, and "delete draft" if the user doesn't need the draft anymore.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ideophagous" title="User:Ideophagous">Ideophagous</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ideophagous" title="User talk:Ideophagous">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Ideophagous-20221226193100-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ideophagous-20221226193100-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button"><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ideophagous-20221226193100-Add_save_to_personal_draft_button"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20221227212600-Ideophagous-20221226193100"></span>Possible overlap with <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T229115" class="extiw" title="phab:T229115">phab:T229115</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20221227212600-Ideophagous-20221226193100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 27 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20221227212600-Ideophagous-20221226193100"><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20221227212600-Ideophagous-20221226193100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="local_securepoll_-_try_this_again" data-mw-thread-id="h-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again-20230101174200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again-20230101174200"></span>local securepoll - try this again<span data-mw-comment-end="h-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again-20230101174200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: local securepoll - try this again"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xaosflux-20230113151800-Xaosflux-20230101174200">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20230101174200-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again"></span>Follow on from <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T301180" class="extiw" title="phab:T301180">phab:T301180</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230101174200-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230101174200-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again"><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230101174200-local_securepoll_-_try_this_again"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20230113151800-Xaosflux-20230101174200"></span>Was relegated to <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Larger_suggestions/Make_SecurePoll_accessible_through_local_wikis" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Larger suggestions/Make SecurePoll accessible through local wikis">Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Larger suggestions/Make SecurePoll accessible through local wikis</a> last year. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230113151800-Xaosflux-20230101174200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 13 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230113151800-Xaosflux-20230101174200"><span id="ooui-php-92" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230113151800-Xaosflux-20230101174200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports" data-mw-thread-id="h-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports-20230101221500"><span id="PagePile_.2F_GULP_.2F_lists_for_automated_reports"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports-20230101221500"></span>PagePile / GULP / lists for automated reports<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports-20230101221500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: PagePile / GULP / lists for automated reports"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Bluerasberry-20230101221500-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="tracked tracked-floatright mw-trackedTemplate"> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r27690877">.mw-parser-output .tracked{font-size:85%;margin:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);border-radius:.5em;padding:2px .3em;width:12em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tracked-floatright{float:right;clear:right;margin:2px 0 2px 2px}.mw-parser-output .tracked-floatleft{float:left;clear:left;margin:2px 2px 2px 0}</style> Tracked in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Phabricator">Phabricator</a>: <br/> <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T231891" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T231891"><strong class="trakfab-T231891">Task T231891</strong></a></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bluerasberry-20230101221500-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports"></span>Develop a tool which saves a list of Wikipedia articles, then makes that list available as input into other tools which run analytics reports on all articles in the list. </p><p>Magnus made <a class="external free" href="https://pagepile.toolforge.org/">https://pagepile.toolforge.org/</a> years ago and proposed <a href="/wiki/Gulp" title="Gulp">Gulp</a> in 2019. This is a tool which creates lists of Wikipedia articles which a user can input into other tools to output metrics. The most popular application for this is <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org">https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org</a>, where a user can input a Pagepile of Wikipedia articles to output a traffic report. </p><p>Having traffic reports for each of hundreds of Wikipedia articles in a user-curated list is critical for institutional partners. For example, a health organization may want to consider all the Wikipedia articles related to a medical condition to identify the most popular articles as targets for editing. Wikimedia categories do not work for this because they include unwanted topics and exclude wanted topics; organizations simply must make their own lists. </p><p>For lots of reasons, mostly lack of development, PagePile needs improvement and fixes. The Gulp proposal on the table which is a specification for the ideal product. </p><p>When such a list generation tool works and is reliable, then I expect there will be demand for many other kinds of analytics tools, like aspects of the XTools editing reports for arbitrary lists of Wikipedia articles, or future applications like identifying which articles have translated versions, multimedia from Commons, references, and all the other metrics which Wikimedians check and encourage as part of content development and quality control. </p><p>Another desired feature is new ways of list generation. PagePile methods include manually inputting Wikipedia article titles or Wikidata identifiers. Running Wikidata queries is possible too. I also want to be able to input a Wikimedia URL and get a list with all the articles linked or Q ids linked on that page. <a href="/wiki/User:Bluerasberry" title="User:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e"><b> Bluerasberry </b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluerasberry" title="User talk:Bluerasberry"><span style="background:#cedff2;color:#11e">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Bluerasberry-20230101221500-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 1 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluerasberry-20230101221500-PagePile_/_GULP_/_lists_for_automated_reports"><span id="ooui-php-93" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="On_English_Wikipedia.2C_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to_source_editor"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to-20230117034500"></span>On English Wikipedia, add the automatic citation generator from visual editor to source editor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to-20230117034500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: On English Wikipedia, add the automatic citation generator from visual editor to source editor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Di_(they-them)-20230117194900-Xaosflux-20230117194500">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to"></span>That way, we don't have to switch between visual and source editor for formatting and citations. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Di_(they-them)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Di (they-them) (page does not exist)">Di (they-them)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Di_(they-them)" title="User talk:Di (they-them)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to"><span id="ooui-php-94" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500-On_English_Wikipedia,_add_the_automatic_citation_generator_from_visual_editor_to"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaosflux-20230117194500-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Di_(they-them)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Di (they-them) (page does not exist)">Di (they-them)</a> are you familiar with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Wikipedia:RefToolbar" class="extiw" title="w:en:Wikipedia:RefToolbar">w:en:Wikipedia:RefToolbar</a> tool there? — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230117194500-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230117194500-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500"><span id="ooui-php-95" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230117194500-Di_(they-them)-20230117034500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117194900-Xaosflux-20230117194500"></span>I was not, thank you. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Di_(they-them)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Di (they-them) (page does not exist)">Di (they-them)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Di_(they-them)" title="User talk:Di (they-them)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Di_(they-them)-20230117194900-Xaosflux-20230117194500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117194900-Xaosflux-20230117194500"><span id="ooui-php-96" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Di_(they-them)-20230117194900-Xaosflux-20230117194500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_notification" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_notification-20230117175000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_notification-20230117175000"></span>Reminder notification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_notification-20230117175000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Reminder notification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Aram-20230117175000-Reminder_notification">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aram-20230117175000-Reminder_notification"></span>Many times we miss notifications or don't have time to deal with them right when we receive them, so we need reminders. See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reminder_software" class="extiw" title="en:Reminder software">Reminder software</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Aram" title="User:Aram">Aram</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aram" title="User talk:Aram">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Aram-20230117175000-Reminder_notification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 17 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aram-20230117175000-Reminder_notification"><span id="ooui-php-97" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aram-20230117175000-Reminder_notification"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="URI_rot" data-mw-thread-id="h-URI_rot-20230411185700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-URI_rot-20230411185700"></span>URI rot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-URI_rot-20230411185700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: URI rot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411185700-URI_rot">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411185700-URI_rot"></span>- URls are rotting all over WP. Instead, whenever a ref with an URL is added, automatically archive it and add an archive link to the ref. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411185700-URI_rot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411185700-URI_rot"><span id="ooui-php-98" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411185700-URI_rot"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add_external_link_cites_in_VE" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE-20230411185800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE-20230411185800"></span>Add external link cites in VE<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE-20230411185800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Add external link cites in VE"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411185800-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411185800-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE"></span>- In VE, add a way to add a cite to the external links section using the same mechanism used to add a ref. (Possibly by adding a checkbox to the ref page that says something like include ref wraper. Currently, you have to switch to source to get rid of the ref wrapper. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411185800-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411185800-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE"><span id="ooui-php-99" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411185800-Add_external_link_cites_in_VE"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save" data-mw-thread-id="h-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save-20230213060200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save-20230213060200"></span>Error check refs before completing a save<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save-20230213060200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Error check refs before completing a save"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230213060200-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230213060200-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save"></span>- In source editing, if you save a change that has a damaged ref in it, display the error without finishing the save. Once the errors are gone, then accept the change. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230213060200-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 13 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230213060200-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save"><span id="ooui-php-100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230213060200-Error_check_refs_before_completing_a_save"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DEFAULTSORT" data-mw-thread-id="h-DEFAULTSORT-20230411190000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DEFAULTSORT-20230411190000"></span>DEFAULTSORT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DEFAULTSORT-20230411190000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: DEFAULTSORT"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411190000-DEFAULTSORT">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190000-DEFAULTSORT"></span>Allow this to be set in VE <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411190000-DEFAULTSORT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190000-DEFAULTSORT"><span id="ooui-php-101" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411190000-DEFAULTSORT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Short_description" data-mw-thread-id="h-Short_description-20230411190100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Short_description-20230411190100"></span>Short description<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Short_description-20230411190100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Short description"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411190100-Short_description">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190100-Short_description"></span>Allow this to be set in the Properties page, without requiring knowledge of the template. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411190100-Short_description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190100-Short_description"><span id="ooui-php-102" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411190100-Short_description"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Italicize_title" data-mw-thread-id="h-Italicize_title-20230411190200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Italicize_title-20230411190200"></span>Italicize title<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Italicize_title-20230411190200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Italicize title"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411190200-Italicize_title">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190200-Italicize_title"></span>Make this a checkbox on the Properties page. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411190200-Italicize_title" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190200-Italicize_title"><span id="ooui-php-103" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411190200-Italicize_title"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page-20230411190500"><span id="Add.2Fremove_various_templates_from_property_page"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page-20230411190500"></span>Add/remove various templates from property page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page-20230411190500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Add/remove various templates from property page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lfstevens-20230411190500-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190500-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page"></span>Things like: </p><p>copyedit </p><p>refimprove </p><p>coi </p><p>infobox settlement </p><p>, etc. Use MI accordingly. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Lfstevens&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Lfstevens (page does not exist)">Lfstevens</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lfstevens" title="User talk:Lfstevens">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Lfstevens-20230411190500-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lfstevens-20230411190500-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page"><span id="ooui-php-104" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lfstevens-20230411190500-Add/remove_various_templates_from_property_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="search_messages" data-mw-thread-id="h-search_messages-20230426134300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-search_messages-20230426134300"></span>search messages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-search_messages-20230426134300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: search messages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem 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Provide a way to search within <a href="/wiki/Special:AllMessages" title="Special:AllMessages">Special:AllMessages</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Xaosflux" title="User:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux" title="User talk:Xaosflux"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Xaosflux-20230426134300-search_messages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaosflux-20230426134300-search_messages"><span id="ooui-php-105" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaosflux-20230426134300-search_messages"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="signature_colour" data-mw-thread-id="h-signature_colour-20230625231400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-signature_colour-20230625231400"></span>signature colour<span data-mw-comment-end="h-signature_colour-20230625231400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: signature colour"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Roundish-20230625231400-signature_colour">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Roundish-20230625231400-signature_colour"></span>Make a setting for all links to userpages and talk/contribs able to be highlighted in a bright colour (of our choosing). Really annoying to see what is signature and what is actual text in discussions, especially when people use the default sig.--<a href="/wiki/User:Roundish" title="User:Roundish">Roundish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Roundish" title="User talk:Roundish">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Roundish-20230625231400-signature_colour" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 25 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Roundish-20230625231400-signature_colour"><span id="ooui-php-106" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Roundish-20230625231400-signature_colour"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types-20231206160000"><span id="Wikidata:_Enable_the_.22class.22_and_.22relation.22_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types-20231206160000"></span>Wikidata: Enable the "class" and "relation" parameters on more constraint types<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types-20231206160000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Wikidata: Enable the "class" and "relation" parameters on more constraint types"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Swpb-20240104150300-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types">11 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swpb-20240104150300-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"></span>Problem</b>: Some useful constraints cannot be created with existing constraint types as currently implemented. The current workaround is often not feasible, and where it is, it results in large, difficult-to-maintain, and often incomplete constraints (examples below).</li> <li><b>Proposed solution</b>: Add support for the parameters <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">P2308 (class)</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">P2309 (relation)</a> (already supported by <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Subject_class" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Subject class">subject-type</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Value_class" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Value class">value-type constraints</a>) to the <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/None_of" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/None of">none-of</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Item" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Item">item-requires-statement</a>, and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Conflicts_with" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Conflicts with">conflicts-with</a> constraint types, to specify classes that property values may or may not belong to. This will allow some constraints to be made much smaller, more maintainable, and more complete, and enable the creation of powerful new constraints.</li> <li><b>Who would benefit</b>: Wikidata users and editors</li> <li><b>More comments</b>: The three specified constraint types support allowing or disallowing specific property values (using <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2305" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2305">P2305 (item of property constraint)</a>), but they do not support allowing or disallowing <i>classes</i> of values. This leads to 1) the creation of large, difficult-to-maintain, and often incomplete constraints (examples 1-3 below) that attempt to list every applicable property value, and 2) the absence of useful constraints when the values are just too numerous to list (example 4). In contrast, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Subject_class" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Subject class">subject-type</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Value_class" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Value class">value-type</a> constraints use the qualifiers <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">P2308 (class)</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">P2309 (relation)</a> for this purpose (the latter indicating whether values must be instances, subclasses, or either with respect to the specified class).</li></ul> <dl><dd>The effect will be to natively enable the three forms of constraint in green in the lower right of this table:</dd></dl> <table class="wikitable"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2"></th> <th>...one of these items, use:</th> <th>...a member or subclass of these classes, use: </th></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="2">If the value of the statement...</th> <th>should be... </th> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/One_of" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/One of">one-of</a> </td> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Value_class" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Value class">value-type</a> </td></tr> <tr> <th>should not be... </th> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/None_of" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/None of">none-of</a> </td> <td style="background:lightgreen"><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/None_of" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/None of">none-of</a> w/class+relation </td></tr> <tr> <th rowspan="2">If the value of another statement on the item...</th> <th>should be... </th> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Item" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Item">item-requires-statement</a> </td> <td style="background:lightgreen"><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Item" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Item">item-requires-statement</a> w/class+relation </td></tr> <tr> <th>should not be... </th> <td><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Conflicts_with" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Conflicts with">conflicts-with</a> </td> <td style="background:lightgreen"><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/Conflicts_with" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/Conflicts with">conflicts-with</a> w/class+relation </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd>Examples:</dd> <dd>1. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2408#P2408$ddf48e58-4ec0-b8ef-3e10-b8812ba1ec1d" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2408">This none-of constraint</a> has 33 values of "item of property constraint", which are meant to include all recurring events, but are certainly not exhaustive. Instead, these could all be replaced with <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">class</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15275719" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q15275719">recurring event (Q15275719)</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">relation</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30208840" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q30208840">instance or subclass of</a>, which <i>would</i> be exhaustive. <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#%23None-of%20constraints%20by%20number%20of%20%22item%20of%20property%20constraint%22%20values%0ASELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FPropertyLabel%20%3FNoneOf_ItemCount%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%20%28COUNT%28%3Fitem%29%20AS%20%3FNoneOf_ItemCount%29%0A%20%20%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FProperty%20p%3AP2302%20%3FConstraintStatement.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20ps%3AP2302%20wd%3AQ52558054.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20pq%3AP2305%20%3Fitem.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%0A%20%20%7D%20FILTER%20%28%3FNoneOf_ItemCount%20%3E%201%29%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3FNoneOf_ItemCount%29">This query</a> gives more constraints that may be candidates for this sort of simplification.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>2. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3980#P3980$e5b5dd2f-4402-6c3a-1328-414f0b1a8f89" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P3980">This item-requires-statement constraint</a> has 39 values of "item of property constraint", which are meant to include all filmmaking occupations, but are likely not exhaustive. Instead, these entries could be replaced with <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">class</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4220920" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q4220920">filmmaking occupation (Q4220920)</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">relation</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21503252" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q21503252">instance of</a>, which <i>would</i> be exhaustive. <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Item-requires-statement%20constraints%20by%20number%20of%20%22item%20of%20property%20constraint%22%20values%0ASELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FPropertyLabel%20%3FRequiresPropertyLabel%20%3FItemCount%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%20%3FRequiresProperty%20%28COUNT%28%3Fitem%29%20AS%20%3FItemCount%29%0A%20%20%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FProperty%20p%3AP2302%20%3FConstraintStatement.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20ps%3AP2302%20wd%3AQ21503247.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20pq%3AP2306%20%3FRequiresProperty.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20pq%3AP2305%20%3Fitem.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%20%3FRequiresProperty%0A%20%20%7D%20FILTER%20%28%3FItemCount%20%3E%201%29%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3FItemCount%29">This query</a> gives more such constraints.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>3. <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P710#P710$79adc499-488a-908f-6824-2e962a373c5e" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P710">This conflicts-with constraint</a> has 27 values of "item of property constraint", which are meant to include all types of crime, but are likely not exhaustive. Instead, these could all be replaced with <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">class</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q83267" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q83267">crime (Q83267)</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">relation</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21514624" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q21514624">subclass of</a>, which <i>would</i> be exhaustive. <a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Conflicts-with%20constraints%20by%20number%20of%20%22item%20of%20property%20constraint%22%20values%0ASELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FPropertyLabel%20%3FConflictsWithPropertyLabel%20%3FItemCount%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%20%3FConflictsWithProperty%20%28COUNT%28%3Fitem%29%20AS%20%3FItemCount%29%0A%20%20%20%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FProperty%20p%3AP2302%20%3FConstraintStatement.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20ps%3AP2302%20wd%3AQ21502838.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20pq%3AP2306%20%3FConflictsWithProperty.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3FConstraintStatement%20pq%3AP2305%20%3Fitem.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20GROUP%20BY%20%3FConstraintStatement%20%3FProperty%20%3FConflictsWithProperty%0A%20%20%7D%20FILTER%20%28%3FItemCount%20%3E%201%29%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3FItemCount%29">This query</a> gives more such constraints.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>4. (new constraint): The value of <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a> should not be a <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16521" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q16521">taxon (Q16521)</a>. (If the item is an <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q110224119" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q110224119">individual organism (Q110224119)</a>, it should use <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P10241" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P10241">individual of taxon (P10241)</a>; if the item is a taxon, it should use <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P171" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P171">parent taxon (P171)</a>.) As of writing, 18,080 items violated this rule: (<a class="external text" href="https://query.wikidata.org/#%23Instances%20of%20taxons%0ASELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Ftaxon.%0A%20%20%3Ftaxon%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ16521.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%20%23%20Helps%20get%20the%20label%20in%20your%20language%2C%20if%20not%2C%20then%20en%20language%0A%7D">query</a>). Obviously, we can't list all taxons in a constraint. Under the proposal, this rule could be expressed with a <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Property_constraints_portal/None_of" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Help:Property constraints portal/None of">none-of</a> constraint on <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P31">instance of (P31)</a>, with <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2308" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2308">class</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16521" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q16521">taxon (Q16521)</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2309" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Property:P2309">relation</a> = <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21503252" class="extiw" title="wikidata:Q21503252">instance of</a>.</dd></dl> <ul><li><b>Phabricator tickets</b>: <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T347628" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T347628">task T347628</a> <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T293487" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T293487">task T293487</a></li> <li><b>Proposer</b>: <a href="/wiki/User:Swpb" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Swpb">Swpb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swpb" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Swpb">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-Swpb-20240104150300-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swpb-20240104150300-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"><span id="ooui-php-107" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swpb-20240104150300-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"></span></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter_F._Patel-Schneider-20231206160000-Wikidata:_Enable_the_"class"_and_"relation"_parameters_on_more_constraint_types"></span>I wholeheartedly support this kind of extension for constraints. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Peter F. Patel-Schneider (page does not exist)">Peter F. Patel-Schneider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter_F._Patel-Schneider" title="User talk:Peter F. 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that is, you should be able to set the Recent changes to show only edits that affect a specific language. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:NGC_54" class="mw-redirect" title="User:NGC 54"><span style="color: #137c1a;">NGC 54</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NGC_54" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NGC 54"><span style="color: #021c0f;">talk</span></a><small>｜</small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NGC_54" title="Special:Contributions/NGC 54"><span style="color: #021c0f;">contribs</span></a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-NGC_54-20231231190200-Wikidata_Recent_changes_filter_by_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NGC_54-20231231190200-Wikidata_Recent_changes_filter_by_language"><span id="ooui-php-109" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NGC_54-20231231190200-Wikidata_Recent_changes_filter_by_language"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Updates_for_translations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Updates_for_translations-20231231190600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Updates_for_translations-20231231190600"></span>Updates for translations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Updates_for_translations-20231231190600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Updates for translations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-NGC_54-20231231190600-Updates_for_translations">11 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NGC_54-20231231190600-Updates_for_translations"></span>Let's say that you translate a Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia article in the source language gets updated, but you do not translate the update, as you do not know about it. There should be a notification system that notifies you about the last changes in the articles that you have translated. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:NGC_54" class="mw-redirect" title="User:NGC 54"><span style="color: #137c1a;">NGC 54</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NGC_54" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:NGC 54"><span style="color: #021c0f;">talk</span></a><small>｜</small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NGC_54" title="Special:Contributions/NGC 54"><span style="color: #021c0f;">contribs</span></a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox#c-NGC_54-20231231190600-Updates_for_translations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NGC_54-20231231190600-Updates_for_translations"><span id="ooui-php-110" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NGC_54-20231231190600-Updates_for_translations"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&oldid=26061489">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Wishlist_Survey/Sandbox&oldid=26061489</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Special:Categories" title="Special:Categories">Category</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Community_Wishlist_Survey" title="Category:Community Wishlist Survey">Community Wishlist Survey</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 13 January 2024, at 18:22.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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