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I&#8217;m talking in the space of a few months to half a year which is pretty quick. The teams know what we&#8217;re in for this year and we can get stuck into the races.&#8221;</p> <p>Webber echoed team mate <a title="Sebastian Vettel" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-v/sebastian-vettel/">Sebastian Vettel&#8217;s</a> view that the changes to the exhaust-blown diffuser rules will have a significant effect on the cars:</p> <p>&#8220;The characteristics of the RB8, we&#8217;re looking for a car that&#8217;s very drive-able, which means not only from an engine side &#8211; Renault do a good job there &#8211; but also aerodynamically, we need to have a car that&#8217;s functional on all circuits in all temperatures.</p> <p>&#8220;Clearly we need to get the most out of the tyres which was a huge thing last year for everybody. That&#8217;s pretty much done now, everyone knows how the tyres behave, that&#8217;s old news, we need to move on and develop the car as best we can.</p> <p>&#8220;Without the exhaust effect into the blown diffuser, which was a very powerful thing the teams had last year, this year that&#8217;s changed, so that&#8217;s going to be a key area trying to understand the losses we&#8217;ve had there.&#8221;</p> <p>He added that continuity was a key reason for the team&#8217;s strong performance in recent years:</p> <p>&#8220;The success of the team in the last few years has been exceptional. So every time we launch a new car there is a lot of anticipation and excitement.</p> <p>&#8220;But some nerves and also some expectations: the bar is very high, we have cleaned up in the last few years, the constructors&#8217; championship was very dominant. 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and that will be to Pirelli&#8217;s detriment as without a competitor we will likely talk about tires less and less. Assuming MW is correct in saying that the teams pretty much have a handle on what to expect, we likely won&#8217;t be spending the first half of the season talking about how the different teams are adapting. They now have adapted, so Pirelli may soon wish to have a competing brand in F1 so that we start to talk about tires again. Oh I&#8217;m sure some teams will still have a little harder time than others making theirs last as long, or heat up in a timely manner etc. but it sounds like the gap in how each team&#8217;s cars treat the tires will be less, just as SV hints that the cars themselves will be closer in performance, which of course includes how the tires work for each one.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946206#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946206&quot;, &quot;946206&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35992" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-magnificent-geoffrey even thread-even depth-1" id="comment-946313"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/magnificent-geoffrey/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16059/94ed15e75dacfd67f77c05d5e0c79dae-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16059-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/magnificent-geoffrey/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Magnificent Geoffrey</a> (@magnificent-geoffrey) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946313"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 17:41</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>From some of the Tweets from Paul Hembrey recently, it&#8217;s looking like the Pirelli factor that thrilled us all in the first half of 2011 is pretty much history. I think that&#8217;s a shame.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946313#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946313&quot;, &quot;946313&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16059" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-robbie odd alt depth-2" id="comment-946320"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/720b7724d55d047b4c340eb3df33b5c8?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&amp;s=25&amp;r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35992-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robbie</a> (@robbie) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946320"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 17:57</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Not sure what you (or he) are/is implying from his tweets, but shouldn&#8217;t the very fact that the Pirellis are soft and therefore provide mechanical grip still be a good thing for F1? To me the shame is that with said softies and a reduction in some aero aids they still have DRS.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946320#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946320&quot;, &quot;946320&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35992" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-946332"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.sam-osborne.co.uk/" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/2bd59b3dfe109b3ba005588691f83611?s=50&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D50&amp;r=G" class="avatar avatar-50 photo" height="50" width="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.sam-osborne.co.uk/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Sam Osborne</a> said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946332"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 18:11</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>What a relief, be nice to not talk about tyres and talk about racing instead.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946332#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946332&quot;, &quot;946332&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-946361"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/33484/ed825a4b0ed869035d2acaf8ac268baa-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-33484-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> UKFan (@) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946361"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 18:57</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>We know for sure that Pirelli has been enhacing the durability of tyres, they must it was bad reputation still I think making them more durable faster will not save them from the punishement they&#8217;ll receive this season, cars should be quite slower in 2012.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946361#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946361&quot;, &quot;946361&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-eggry even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-946446"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/eggry/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/20074/22d783b729df6ba1531b09f5e02b137a-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-20074-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/eggry/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Eggry</a> (@eggry) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946446"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 21:19</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I hope so either.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946446#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946446&quot;, &quot;946446&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="20074" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-foleyger odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-946478"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/foleyger/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a5a557334ff5efa4cd458f0d5d361c00?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&amp;s=50&amp;r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-27982-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/foleyger/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">foleyger</a> (@foleyger) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946478"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 22:19</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>get rid of DRS now and we have racing. looking at races on youtube in the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s is great when you see no DRS spoiling it.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946478#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946478&quot;, &quot;946478&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="27982" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser 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easier for the car behind to follow through corners! If only the FIA could come up with rules to make the cars just like the early 90&#8242;s!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946514#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946514&quot;, &quot;946514&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="20621" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-david-a odd alt depth-3" id="comment-946606"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/9052/51fce63b26e1ac340cca78358e940bac-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-9052-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David-A</a> (@david-a) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946606"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 2:50</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I&#8217;d still rather see it be difficult to pass like itr was in the 2000s. The tense battles of Imola 05/06 definitely beat pushing the magic wing button and flying by.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946606#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946606&quot;, &quot;946606&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="9052" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-magnificent-geoffrey even depth-4" id="comment-946728"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/magnificent-geoffrey/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16059/94ed15e75dacfd67f77c05d5e0c79dae-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16059-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/magnificent-geoffrey/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Magnificent Geoffrey</a> (@magnificent-geoffrey) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946728"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 8:14</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="nofollow">@David-A</a> Really? I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. Imola 2005/6 were the prime examples of F1 at it&#8217;s worst for me. Artificial &#8216;battles&#8217; that only existed because of dirty air. Neither car in 2nd had any actual opportunity to pass.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946728#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946728&quot;, &quot;946728&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16059" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-david-a odd alt depth-5" id="comment-946759"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/9052/51fce63b26e1ac340cca78358e940bac-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-9052-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David-A</a> (@david-a) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946759"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 8:50</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/magnificent-geoffrey/" rel="nofollow">@Magnificent-Geoffrey</a> &#8211; I enjoyed those two battles because of the pressure on the leading driver not to make any errors and allow the pursuer an overtaking opportunity. While the issue of dirty air made the racing less than ideal, overtaking was still possible, like on the final lap of 2005&#8242;s Japanese race.</p> <p>The DRS often makes passing a bit too easy for my liking, which is why my favourite passes of 2011 consist of ones without DRS.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even depth-5" id="comment-946762"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fb6359daa7a900945cc2d8a88d9385f3?s=25&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&amp;r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> DVC said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946762"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 9:00</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Because it was so hard to pass there was less pressure on the driver in front. They knew they could drive at 95% and the driver behind wouldn&#8217;t be able to find a way through.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-david-a odd alt depth-5" id="comment-946785"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/9052/51fce63b26e1ac340cca78358e940bac-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-9052-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/david-a/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">David-A</a> (@david-a) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946785"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 9:41</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dvc/" rel="nofollow">@dvc</a> &#8211; Regardless, the two of them were close throughout the closing stages of the races, which made it tense. If Schumacher hit a DRS button and flew by Alonso as soon as he came up to him a la Istanbul 2011, it wouldn&#8217;t have been a memorable race.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment even depth-5" id="comment-946787"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/fb6359daa7a900945cc2d8a88d9385f3?s=25&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&amp;r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> DVC said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946787"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 9:47</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I agree. I&#8217;m no fan of DRS. I would prefer an 80s or 90s level of passing to a 00s one though.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-topdowntoedown odd alt depth-2" id="comment-946984"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/topdowntoedown/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/985c4e8637811429ec0d63198d59e14f?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&amp;s=25&amp;r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-25924-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/topdowntoedown/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">topdowntoedown</a> (@topdowntoedown) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946984"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 16:29</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Ah yes, the early 90s. What a competitive time that was&#8230; when the Williams would routinely be a clear second a lap faster than anything else, and the back of the grid would be ten seconds away per lap.</p> <p>Far better than, say, 2009 when a second would cover pretty much the whole grid&#8230;</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946984#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946984&quot;, &quot;946984&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="25924" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-stretch even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-946497"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/stretch/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/21472/71b2fc484a42f12f228051cfc21539a7-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-21472-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/stretch/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Stretch</a> (@stretch) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946497"><span class="time-since">6th February 2012, 23:12</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>Renault <em>to</em> a good job there</p></blockquote> <p>Hey <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/keithcollantine/" rel="nofollow">@keithcollantine</a>, is it meant to be do?</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/?replytocom=946497#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm(&quot;comment-946497&quot;, &quot;946497&quot;, &quot;respond&quot;, &quot;55152&quot;)">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="21472" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-andrewtanner odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-946802"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/18121/aef0618ae60ed259dfe144818957e0dc-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-18121-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">AndrewTanner</a> (@andrewtanner) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121017194731/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/02/06/webber-tyres-news-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-946802"><span class="time-since">7th February 2012, 10:17</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Perhaps famous last words from Webber there, considering how he struggled to get the tyres up to temperature last year!</p> <p>I do think he has a point but what niggles me is the supposed performance-gap that will be reduced this year, 0.5-0.6s between compounds I heard. 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