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aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#User_talk:MadmanBot"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">User talk:MadmanBot</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Koothanallur"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Koothanallur</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#afd"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">afd</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#A_pleasure,_I'm_sure"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">A pleasure, I'm sure</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Deonbot"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Deonbot</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Oops"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Oops</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#You're_back!"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">You're back!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#FAMBUSH"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">FAMBUSH</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Adam_Andrzejewski"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Adam Andrzejewski</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Archiving_Approved_requests"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Archiving Approved requests</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Re: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MadmanBot 7</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Pillar_bot_framework"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Pillar bot framework</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Jason_Steele_(footballer)"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Jason Steele (footballer)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Nomination of General average/New version for deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Notification:_changes_to_%22Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default%22_preference"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Suspension of admin privileges due to inactivity</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Re: AIV for 74.231.185.3</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Siiiii_copyright_issue"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Siiiii copyright issue</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">reg: removal of Knowledge based community sharing system</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#St_Peter's_School,_Seaford"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">St Peter's School, Seaford</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Mildred_Seydell"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Mildred Seydell</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Thank_you"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Thank you</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Thanks_for_Helping"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Thanks for Helping</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Talkback"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Talkback</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Thanks"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Thanks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Deletion Yvonne Mwale</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Talkback_2"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Talkback</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Rigpa_organization"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Rigpa organization</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">reg: removal of Knowledge based community sharing system</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Nanette_Hassall"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Nanette Hassall</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="User_talk:MadmanBot" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:MadmanBot-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:MadmanBot-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:MadmanBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:MadmanBot">User talk:MadmanBot</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:MadmanBot-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jeff_G.-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z-User_talk:MadmanBot">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeff_G.-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z-User_talk:MadmanBot"></span>Hi. I posted some questions for you at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MadmanBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:MadmanBot">User talk:MadmanBot</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G." title="User:Jeff G.">Jeff G.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G./talk" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jeff G./talk">talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jeff_G." title="Special:Contributions/Jeff G.">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Jeff_G.-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z-User_talk:MadmanBot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeff_G.-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z-User_talk:MadmanBot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeff_G.-2008-01-29T14:18:00.000Z-User_talk:MadmanBot"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Koothanallur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Koothanallur-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Koothanallur-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Koothanallur" title="Koothanallur">Koothanallur</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Koothanallur-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z-Koothanallur">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z-Koothanallur"></span>Who are you to block "Koothanallur" page?? Tell me the reason. Email to jamaldn@hotmail.com <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Jamaldn" title="User:Jamaldn">Jamaldn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jamaldn" title="User talk:Jamaldn">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jamaldn" title="Special:Contributions/Jamaldn">contribs</a>) 16:36, 2 February 2008</small> </p> <dl><dd>I reply to messages left on my talkpage on my talkpage. I'll leave you a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Talkback" title="Template:Talkback">Talkback</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, though, so you know to check here.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I protected <a href="/wiki/Koothanallur" title="Koothanallur">Koothanallur</a> from creation per the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">protection policy</a>. It was repeatedly recreated in violation of Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">copyright policy</a>. If you are capable of creating an article that is not a copyright infringement, please create one as a subpage of your userpage and it will be moved into place. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z-Koothanallur" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z-Koothanallur"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2008-02-02T21:15:00.000Z-Koothanallur"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="afd" data-mw-thread-id="h-afd-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-afd-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z"></span>afd<span data-mw-comment-end="h-afd-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-DGG-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z-afd">16 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DGG-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z-afd"></span>You participated in the previous afd for <a href="/wiki/Southeast_Leatherfest" title="Southeast Leatherfest">Southeast Leatherfest</a> it is up again, at <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Southeast_Leatherfest_%282nd_nomination%29">[1]</a> and you may want to comment. Sorry; you should have been notified earlier. <b><a href="/wiki/User:DGG" title="User:DGG">DGG</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DGG" title="User talk:DGG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-DGG-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z-afd" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DGG-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z-afd"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DGG-2008-02-04T13:22:00.000Z-afd"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="A_pleasure,_I'm_sure" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"><span id="A_pleasure.2C_I.27m_sure"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"></span>A pleasure, I'm sure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2009-07-22T21:39:00.000Z-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure"></span>Pleased to make your acquaintance! I guess all my edits have come during your break; it sure is nice to see another helpful (and yet thus far unfamiliar) face at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRFA">WP:BRFA</a> and I hope to see you around. From one BAG member to another, you might like to check whether any of the goalposts have moved in your absence. :) Heh. Anyhow, happy editing! - <a href="/wiki/User:Jarry1250" title="User:Jarry1250">Jarry1250</a> <sup>[ <span style="font-style:italic">In the UK? Sign <a href="/wiki/User:Jarry1250/P" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jarry1250/P">the petition</a>!</span> ]</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 22 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z-A_pleasure,_I'm_sure"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-22T21:39:00.000Z-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"></span>Well, I have of course re-reviewed the bot policy, the BRFA procedure, etc., but if you'd care to advise me of any other goalposts that may have moved, please feel free to. :) Thanks for the welcome back! — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-22T21:39:00.000Z-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-22T21:39:00.000Z-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-22T21:39:00.000Z-Jarry1250-2009-07-22T21:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Deonbot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deonbot-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deonbot-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"></span>Deonbot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deonbot-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2009-07-23T16:54:00.000Z-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z-Deonbot"></span>Thanks for fixing <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Deonbot&diff=next&oldid=302439976">this</a> up. As you can see in the 'source code' just above it, it says '<b>For existing bots only'</b>, so I figured I didn't have to answer the question, and therefore the answer was - not applicable. Thanks for clearing it up :) — <a href="/wiki/User:Deon" title="User:Deon">Deon</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deon" title="User talk:Deon"><sup style="color:purple;"><b>talk</b></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z-Deonbot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z-Deonbot"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z-Deonbot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-23T16:54:00.000Z-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"></span>No problem! That comment's ambiguous. :) — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-23T16:54:00.000Z-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-23T16:54:00.000Z-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-23T16:54:00.000Z-Deon-2009-07-23T11:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Oops" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oops-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oops-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z"></span>Oops<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oops-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xeno-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z-Oops">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xeno-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z-Oops"></span>Thanks for catching that error. It was when I was using very clumsy Find/replace logic, now I am using a regex that matches the whole template. <s>Can you approve for another 100 edits or so, and</s> I will go for a more diverse sample? Thanks! –<a href="/wiki/User:Xeno" title="User:Xeno"><b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xeno" title="User talk:Xeno"><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Xeno-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z-Oops" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xeno-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z-Oops"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xeno-2009-07-23T18:28:00.000Z-Oops"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="You're_back!" data-mw-thread-id="h-You're_back!-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"><span id="You.27re_back.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You're_back!-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"></span>You're back!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You're_back!-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:52:00.000Z-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z-You're_back!"></span>Glad to see you're back and editing again. I trust everything has been okay? <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Bibliomaniac15" title="User:Bibliomaniac15"><span style="color:black;">bibliomaniac</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bibliomaniac15" title="User talk:Bibliomaniac15"><span style="color:red;">1</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bibliomaniac15" title="Special:Contributions/Bibliomaniac15"><span style="color:blue;">5</span></a></b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z-You're_back!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z-You're_back!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z-You're_back!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:52:00.000Z-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"></span>I've had ups and downs; I'm poking my head out of semi-retirement to see if there's any way I can do some good even given my extremely heavy workload. :) — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:52:00.000Z-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:52:00.000Z-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:52:00.000Z-Bibliomaniac15-2009-07-23T22:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(8)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="FAMBUSH" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAMBUSH-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAMBUSH-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"></span>FAMBUSH<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAMBUSH-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:43:00.000Z-FAMBUSH">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>7 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span>Hello - I'm trying to invent a word, and I'm not sure why you think the page I created has no content. I just created the content...made up something new. Is wikipedia restricted to only categorizing things that exist? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnbernier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnbernier (page does not exist)">Johnbernier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnbernier" title="User talk:Johnbernier">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Johnbernier" title="Special:Contributions/Johnbernier">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z-FAMBUSH" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:29:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"></span>Indeed it is. It's an encyclopedia, after all. When a mainstream news organization starts using your word, feel free to re-create the article. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:29:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:29:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:29:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span>What qualifies as mainstream...? Do a search on Twitter for Fambush, you'll see it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnbernier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnbernier (page does not exist)">Johnbernier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnbernier" title="User talk:Johnbernier">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Johnbernier" title="Special:Contributions/Johnbernier">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z-FAMBUSH" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:32:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z"></span>Twitter does not qualify as a reliable source. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">Wikipedia:Reliable sources</a>. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:32:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:32:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:32:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span>So much for creativity. I have to wait for someone at a newspaper (quaint) to reference it before it's legit. That's odd, to say the least. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnbernier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnbernier (page does not exist)">Johnbernier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnbernier" title="User talk:Johnbernier">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Johnbernier" title="Special:Contributions/Johnbernier">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z-FAMBUSH" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:39:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Think of Wikipedia as a larger version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. Your made-up word would be unencyclopedic in the Britannica, and it's unencyclopedic here. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:39:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:39:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T04:39:00.000Z-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:43:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span>Until we meet again, then. I'm making t-shirts right now in my underground lair, and someone will pick up on it! Cheers. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnbernier&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnbernier (page does not exist)">Johnbernier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnbernier" title="User talk:Johnbernier">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Johnbernier" title="Special:Contributions/Johnbernier">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:43:00.000Z-FAMBUSH" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:43:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbernier-2009-07-24T04:43:00.000Z-FAMBUSH"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Adam_Andrzejewski" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adam_Andrzejewski-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adam_Andrzejewski-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Adam_Andrzejewski" class="mw-redirect" title="Adam Andrzejewski">Adam Andrzejewski</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adam_Andrzejewski-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2009-07-24T21:29:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z-Adam_Andrzejewski"></span>I noticed that you deleted this page with the rationale that it did not assert importance (CSD A7). However, looking at the deleted revisions, it pretty clearly asserted importance. The article stated that the subject was a candidate for Governor of Illinois. I would urge you to reconsider the deletion and nominate it at AfD instead--if you don't feel it meets notability criteria for inclusion. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle" title="User talk:IronGargoyle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z-Adam_Andrzejewski" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z-Adam_Andrzejewski"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z-Adam_Andrzejewski"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"></span>I agree. You may not be from IL, but this person and his organization is a major player in IL politics.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Loudes13&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Loudes13 (page does not exist)">Loudes13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loudes13" title="User talk:Loudes13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T16:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z"></span>I didn't nominate the article for speedy deletion, and you can feel free to undelete the article. However, Wikipedia's notability policies for politicians state that "Just being an [...] unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." The article linked to no reliable source; it linked to an article in a mainstream news organization that did not exist, to a government resource he apparently had some hand in, and to his own Web site, a self-published source. If the article is undeleted, please assert notability with reliable sources. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z-Loudes13-2009-07-24T16:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. I didn't say you nominated the article for speedy deletion, but you should still understand the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">criteria for speedy deletion</a> if you are going to judge the nominations of other editors and make deletion decisions about them. If an article asserts importance in a reasonable way it <i>does not</i> meet the A7 criteria for speedy deletion. The reasons you give are quite valid reasons for <i>regular deletion</i>, but are not valid for speedy deletion. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle" title="User talk:IronGargoyle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-24T17:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T21:29:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z"></span>I do understand them, but I'll be a little less deletionist next time. I didn't delete the article because of the lack of reliable sources; I deleted it because I agreed with the nominator that the assertion of notability was insufficient, combined with the lack of reliable sources. Cheers! — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-24T21:29:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-24T21:29:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-24T21:29:00.000Z-IronGargoyle-2009-07-24T19:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(10)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Archiving_Approved_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archiving_Approved_requests-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archiving_Approved_requests-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"></span>Archiving <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Approved" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Approved">Approved requests</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archiving_Approved_requests-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2009-07-26T04:47:00.000Z-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z-Archiving_Approved_requests"></span>Be sure to actually move them to the archive page instead of removing them. <a href="/wiki/User:OverlordQ" title="User:OverlordQ"><span style="color:#171788;font-weight:bold">Q</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:OverlordQ" title="User talk:OverlordQ">T</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/OverlordQ" title="Special:Contributions/OverlordQ">C</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z-Archiving_Approved_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z-Archiving_Approved_requests"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z-Archiving_Approved_requests"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-26T04:47:00.000Z-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"></span>Oops, sorry. Forgot that was the only section that wasn't archived only by category. Thanks! — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-26T04:47:00.000Z-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-26T04:47:00.000Z-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-26T04:47:00.000Z-OverlordQ-2009-07-26T04:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"><span id="Re:_Wikipedia:Bots.2FRequests_for_approval.2FMadmanBot_7"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span>Re: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MadmanBot 7">Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MadmanBot 7</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-02T11:15:00.000Z-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>11 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span>Hi there. Thanks for performing that task for me. Is there any chance you could re-programme the bot to do the same procedure on the articles in <a href="/wiki/Category:UEFA_Champions_League_seasons" title="Category:UEFA Champions League seasons">Category:UEFA Champions League seasons</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:European_Cup_seasons" title="Category:European Cup seasons">Category:European Cup seasons</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:UEFA_Cup_seasons" title="Category:UEFA Cup seasons">Category:UEFA Cup seasons</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:UEFA_Europa_League_seasons" title="Category:UEFA Europa League seasons">Category:UEFA Europa League seasons</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Inter-Cities_Fairs_Cup_seasons" title="Category:Inter-Cities Fairs Cup seasons">Category:Inter-Cities Fairs Cup seasons</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:UEFA_Futsal_Cup&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:UEFA Futsal Cup (page does not exist)">Category:UEFA Futsal Cup</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:UEFA_Intertoto_Cup" title="Category:UEFA Intertoto Cup">Category:UEFA Intertoto Cup</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:UEFA_Women%27s_Cup&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:UEFA Women's Cup (page does not exist)">Category:UEFA Women's Cup</a>? – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span>I will take a look at doing this tomorrow. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 27 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-26T17:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z"></span>Thanks very much, mate. I know you must have plenty of things of your own that you want to do, so I really appreciate this. – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-27T03:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sara©SF-2009-07-27T14:12:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your help! <a href="/wiki/User:Sara%C2%A9SF" title="User:Sara©SF">Sara©SF</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sara%C2%A9SF" title="User talk:Sara©SF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Sara%C2%A9SF-2009-07-27T14:12:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sara©SF-2009-07-27T14:12:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sara©SF-2009-07-27T14:12:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-27T07:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span>Any news on this wee project? – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z"></span>I've been very busy lately; I'll try to tackle it today. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-30T10:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z"></span>No worries, mate. Whenever you're ready :) – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 31 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z-Madman-2009-07-31T14:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-08-01T17:57:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z"></span>PeeJay, please confirm the following actions. — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-08-01T17:57:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-08-01T17:57:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-08-01T17:57:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-07-31T21:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1214851843">.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{box-sizing:border-box;width:100%;padding:5px;border:none;font-size:95%}.mw-parser-output .hidden-title{font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .hidden-content{text-align:left}@media all and (max-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .hidden-begin{width:auto!important;clear:none!important;float:none!important}}</style><div class="hidden-begin mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style=""><div class="hidden-title skin-nightmode-reset-color" style="text-align:center;">Intended actions</div><div class="hidden-content mw-collapsible-content" style=""> <ul><li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1992–93 -> 1992–93 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1993–94 -> 1993–94 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1994–95 -> 1994–95 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1995–96 -> 1995–96 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1996–97 -> 1996–97 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1997–98 -> 1997–98 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1998–99 -> 1998–99 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 1999–2000 -> 1999–2000 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2000–01 -> 2000–01 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2001–02 -> 2001–02 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2002–03 -> 2002–03 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2003–04 -> 2003–04 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2004–05 -> 2004–05 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2005–06 -> 2005–06 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2006–07 -> 2006–07 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Champions League 2007–08 -> 2007–08 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Skip: 2008–09 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Skip: 2009–10 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Skip: 2010–11 UEFA Champions League</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1955–56 -> 1955–56 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1956–57 -> 1956–57 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1957–58 -> 1957–58 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1958–59 -> 1958–59 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1959–60 -> 1959–60 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1960–61 -> 1960–61 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1961–62 -> 1961–62 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1962–63 -> 1962–63 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1963–64 -> 1963–64 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1964–65 -> 1964–65 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1965–66 -> 1965–66 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1966–67 -> 1966–67 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1967–68 -> 1967–68 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1968–69 -> 1968–69 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1969–70 -> 1969–70 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1970–71 -> 1970–71 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1971–72 -> 1971–72 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1972–73 -> 1972–73 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1973–74 -> 1973–74 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1974–75 -> 1974–75 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1975–76 -> 1975–76 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1976–77 -> 1976–77 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1977–78 -> 1977–78 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1978–79 -> 1978–79 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1979–80 -> 1979–80 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1980–81 -> 1980–81 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1981–82 -> 1981–82 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1982–83 -> 1982–83 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1983–84 -> 1983–84 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1984–85 -> 1984–85 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1985–86 -> 1985–86 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1986–87 -> 1986–87 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1987–88 -> 1987–88 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1988–89 -> 1988–89 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1989–90 -> 1989–90 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1990–91 -> 1990–91 European Cup</li> <li>Move: European Cup 1991–92 -> 1991–92 European Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1971–72 -> 1971–72 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1972–73 -> 1972–73 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1973–74 -> 1973–74 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1974–75 -> 1974–75 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1975–76 -> 1975–76 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1976–77 -> 1976–77 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1977–78 -> 1977–78 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1978–79 -> 1978–79 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1979–80 -> 1979–80 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1980–81 -> 1980–81 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1981–82 -> 1981–82 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1982–83 -> 1982–83 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1983–84 -> 1983–84 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1984–85 -> 1984–85 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1985–86 -> 1985–86 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1986–87 -> 1986–87 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1987–88 -> 1987–88 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1988–89 -> 1988–89 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1990–91 -> 1990–91 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1991–92 -> 1991–92 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1992–93 -> 1992–93 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1993–94 -> 1993–94 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1994–95 -> 1994–95 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1995–96 -> 1995–96 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1996–97 -> 1996–97 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1997–98 -> 1997–98 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1998–99 -> 1998–99 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 1999–2000 -> 1999–2000 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2000–01 -> 2000–01 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2001–02 -> 2001–02 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2002–03 -> 2002–03 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2003–04 -> 2003–04 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2004–05 -> 2004–05 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2005–06 -> 2005–06 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2006–07 -> 2006–07 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Cup 2007–08 -> 2007–08 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Skip: 2008–09 UEFA Cup</li> <li>Skip: 2009–10 UEFA Europa League</li> <li>Skip: 2010–11 UEFA Europa League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Europa League 2011–12 -> 2011–12 UEFA Europa League</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1955–58 -> 1955–58 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1958–60 -> 1958–60 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1960–61 -> 1960–61 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1961–62 -> 1961–62 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1962–63 -> 1962–63 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1963–64 -> 1963–64 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1964–65 -> 1964–65 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1965–66 -> 1965–66 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1966–67 -> 1966–67 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1967–68 -> 1967–68 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1968–69 -> 1968–69 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1969–70 -> 1969–70 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Move: Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 1970–71 -> 1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup</li> <li>Skip: UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Futsal Cup 2001–02 -> 2001–02 UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Futsal Cup 2006–07 -> 2006–07 UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Futsal Cup 2007–08 -> 2007–08 UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Futsal Cup 2008–09 -> 2008–09 UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Futsal Cup 2009–10 -> 2009–10 UEFA Futsal Cup</li> <li>Skip: UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1961–62 -> 1961–62 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1962–63 -> 1962–63 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1963–64 -> 1963–64 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1964–65 -> 1964–65 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1965–66 -> 1965–66 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1966–67 -> 1966–67 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1967 -> 1967 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1968 -> 1968 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1969 -> 1969 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1970 -> 1970 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1971 -> 1971 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1972 -> 1972 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1973 -> 1973 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1974 -> 1974 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1975 -> 1975 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1976 -> 1976 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1977 -> 1977 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1979 -> 1979 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1980 -> 1980 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1981 -> 1981 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1982 -> 1982 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: Intertoto Cup 1983 -> 1983 Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 1995 -> 1995 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 1996 -> 1996 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 1997 -> 1997 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 1998 -> 1998 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 1999 -> 1999 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2000 -> 2000 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2001 -> 2001 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2002 -> 2002 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2003 -> 2003 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2004 -> 2004 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2005 -> 2005 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2006 -> 2006 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2007 -> 2007 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Intertoto Cup 2008 -> 2008 UEFA Intertoto Cup</li> <li>Skip: List of UEFA Intertoto Cup winners</li> <li>Skip: List of UEFA Intertoto Cup winning managers</li> <li>Skip: UEFA Women's Champions League</li> <li>Skip: List of UEFA Women's Cup winners</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Champions League 2009–10 -> 2009–10 UEFA Women's Champions League</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2001–02 -> 2001–02 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2002–03 -> 2002–03 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2003–04 -> 2003–04 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2004–05 -> 2004–05 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2005–06 -> 2005–06 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2006–07 -> 2006–07 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2007–08 -> 2007–08 UEFA Women's Cup</li> <li>Move: UEFA Women's Cup 2008–09 -> 2008–09 UEFA Women's Cup</li></ul></div></div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Actions confirmed. Looks good :-) – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z-Re:_Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/MadmanBot_7"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 18px;height: 18px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="18" data-height="18" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span><span style="display:none">Y</span> <b>Done</b> a bit back. Cheers! — <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Madman" title="User:Madman">madman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">bum and angel</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-01T20:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-02T11:15:00.000Z-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z"></span>Multo bene! Thanks very much. – <a href="/wiki/User:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PeeJay2K3">Pee</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PeeJay2K3" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PeeJay2K3">Jay</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-02T11:15:00.000Z-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-02T11:15:00.000Z-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PeeJay2K3-2009-08-02T11:15:00.000Z-Madman-2009-08-02T01:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(12)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Pillar_bot_framework" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pillar_bot_framework-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pillar_bot_framework-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z"></span>Pillar bot framework<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pillar_bot_framework-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sam_Korn-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z-Pillar_bot_framework">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sam_Korn-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z-Pillar_bot_framework"></span>Hi Madman. Thanks for your message. Sorry for the belated response -- I've been rather busy with some real life stuff. I'd be delighted to see your changes and indeed give you commit access (if I can figure out how!). If you'd like to send them to me as patches (<span class="nowrap">smoddy<span class="mw-no-invert"><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span title="@"><noscript><img alt="@" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="145" data-file-height="145"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 15px;height: 15px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/15px-At_sign.svg.png" data-alt="@" data-width="15" data-height="15" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/23px-At_sign.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/At_sign.svg/30px-At_sign.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span></span>gmail.com</span>), I'll have a look and sort out the commit access. Best wishes, [[User:Sam Korn|<a href="/w/index.php?title=Sam_Korn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Sam Korn (page does not exist)">Sam Korn</a>]] <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Korn" title="User talk:Sam Korn">(smoddy)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Sam_Korn-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z-Pillar_bot_framework" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sam_Korn-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z-Pillar_bot_framework"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sam_Korn-2009-08-22T16:04:00.000Z-Pillar_bot_framework"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Jason_Steele_(footballer)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jason_Steele_(footballer)-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z"><span id="Jason_Steele_.28footballer.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jason_Steele_(footballer)-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z"></span>Jason Steele (footballer)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jason_Steele_(footballer)-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Clicriffhard-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z-Jason_Steele_(footballer)">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clicriffhard-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z-Jason_Steele_(footballer)"></span>Just to let you know that this article - which was protected due to being created repeatedly before the guy had actually played a senior game - does actually need creating now: he's now played two league games on loan at Northampton. Any chance of unprotecting it? <a href="/wiki/User:Clicriffhard" title="User:Clicriffhard">Clicriffhard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clicriffhard" title="User talk:Clicriffhard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Clicriffhard-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z-Jason_Steele_(footballer)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clicriffhard-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z-Jason_Steele_(footballer)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clicriffhard-2010-03-09T22:48:00.000Z-Jason_Steele_(footballer)"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(14)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z"><span id="Nomination_of_General_average.2FNew_version_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=General_average/New_version&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="General average/New version (page does not exist)">General average/New version</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Whpq-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Whpq-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/42px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="42" height="36" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 42px;height: 36px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/42px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="42" data-height="36" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/63px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/84px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span></div><p>The article <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=General_average/New_version&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="General average/New version (page does not exist)">General average/New version</a></b> is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. </p><p>The article will be discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/General_average/New_version" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General average/New version">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/General average/New version</a> until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines. </p><p>Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Whpq" title="User:Whpq">Whpq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Whpq" title="User talk:Whpq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Whpq-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Whpq-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Whpq-2011-01-13T17:25:00.000Z-Nomination_of_General_average/New_version_for_deletion"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference' data-mw-thread-id='h-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z'><span id="Notification:_changes_to_.22Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default.22_preference"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z'></span>Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z'></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-LivingBot-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-LivingBot-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference'></span>Hello there. This is an automated message to tell you about the gradual phasing out of the preference entitled "Mark all edits minor by default", which you currently have (or very recently had) enabled. </p><p>On 13 March 2011, this preference was hidden from the user preferences screen as part of efforts to prevent its accidental misuse (<a href="/wiki/Help_talk:Minor_edit#Should_we_remove_the_Preference_setting_to_.22Mark_all_edits_minor_by_default.22_.3F" title="Help talk:Minor edit">consensus discussion</a>, guidelines for use at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MINOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MINOR">WP:MINOR</a>). This had the effect of locking users in to their existing preference, which, in your case, was <code>true</code>. To complete the process, your preference will automatically be changed to <code>false</code> in the next few days. This does not require any intervention on your part and all users will still be able to manually mark their edits as being minor in the usual way. </p><p>For well-established users such as yourself there is <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_78#Preference_to_mark_all_edits_minor_by_default_asked_to_be_removed_in_bugzilla:24313" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 78">a workaround available</a></b> involving custom JavaScript. If you have any problems, feel free to drop me a note. </p><p>Thank you for your understanding and happy editing :) Editing on behalf of <a href="/wiki/User:Jarry1250" title="User:Jarry1250">User:Jarry1250</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:LivingBot" title="User:LivingBot">LivingBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LivingBot" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:LivingBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-LivingBot-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z-Notification:_changes_to_%22Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default%22_preference" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-LivingBot-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference'></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-LivingBot-2011-03-15T20:39:00.000Z-Notification:_changes_to_"Mark_my_edits_as_minor_by_default"_preference'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(16)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" data-mw-thread-id="h-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z"><span id="MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment.2FWikipedia_policies_and_guidelines.2FWikipedia:Requests_for_adminship"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z"></span>MfD nomination of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship">Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kudpung-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-16 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-16"> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin"></span>Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</a>, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MfD">deletion</a>. 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You are free to edit the content of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship">Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia policies and guidelines/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship</a> during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Kudpung-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2011-05-14T01:22:00.000Z-MfD_nomination_of_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelin"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(17)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Suspension of admin privileges due to inactivity<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-RL0919-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-17 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-17"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RL0919-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 25px;height: 25px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="25" data-height="25" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> Following a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/suspend_sysop_rights_of_inactive_admins" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/suspend sysop rights of inactive admins">community discussion</a> in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative privileges of users who have been inactive for one year, meaning administrators who have made neither any edits nor any logged actions in over one year. As a result of this discussion, your administrative privileges have been removed pending your return. If you wish to have these privileges reinstated, please post to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard">Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard</a> and the userright will be restored per the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats#Resysopping" title="Wikipedia:Bureaucrats">re-sysopping process</a> (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. <a href="/wiki/User:RL0919" title="User:RL0919">RL0919</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RL0919" title="User talk:RL0919">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-RL0919-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 9 July 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RL0919-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RL0919-2011-07-09T21:56:00.000Z-Suspension_of_admin_privileges_due_to_inactivity"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(18)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"></span>Re: AIV for 74.231.185.3<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:58:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-18 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-18"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3"></span>Hello madman, </p><p>I noticed that you closed the AIV for <span class="plainlinks userlinks"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:74.231.185.3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:74.231.185.3 (page does not exist)">74.231.185.3</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:74.231.185.3" title="User talk:74.231.185.3">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.231.185.3" title="Special:Contributions/74.231.185.3">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/74.231.185.3" title="Special:DeletedContributions/74.231.185.3">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=74.231.185.3">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip=74.231.185.3">WHOIS</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dnswatch.info/dns/dnslookup?host=74.231.185.3&submit=Resolve&la=en">RDNS</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/74.231.185.3#dnsbl">RBLs</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://74.231.185.3">http</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/74.231.185.3" title="Special:Block/74.231.185.3">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3A74.231.185.3">block log</a>)</span></span> as "no vandalism since final warning". However, you should note that the user's contribs list is lengthy and appears to consist exclusively of vandalism. It eludes me how they have not been warned to level 4 a very long time ago. Thus, I still recommend applying <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Schoolblock" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Schoolblock">schoolblock</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzarch" title="User:Zzarch">Zzarch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzarch" title="User talk:Zzarch">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z-Re:_AIV_for_74.231.185.3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"></span>However, there were only two instances of vandalism <i>today</i> and there had been none in about an hour, if I recall correctly. When dealing with shared IP addresses, I find that previous contributions are not particularly relevant as each series of incidents is typically a different user. Keeping that in mind, the user in question was warned for those two instances of vandalism and it would seem punitive to me to give him a final warning and then block him anyway with the bad-faith assumption that he would be incapable of heeding those warnings. Indeed, it seems he did heed those warnings. So, I declined even a softblock but the matter's not "closed"; you can feel free to follow up on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AIV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AIV">WP:AIV</a> and see if another administrator disagrees with me. I wouldn't take it personally. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T21:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z"></span>I see. I'll be keeping an eye out on this IP then and report as needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Zzarch" title="User:Zzarch">Zzarch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zzarch" title="User talk:Zzarch">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-12T23:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:58:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:58:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:58:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-12T23:58:00.000Z-Zzarch-2012-01-12T23:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(19)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Your input is needed on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action" title="Wikipedia:SOPA initiative/Action">SOPA initiative</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thehelpfulbot-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-19 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-19"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thehelpfulbot-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative"></span>Hi Madman, </p><p>You are receiving this message either because you expressed an opinion about the proposed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action#Blackout" title="Wikipedia:SOPA initiative/Action">SOPA blackout</a> before <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action#Full_blackout" title="Wikipedia:SOPA initiative/Action">full blackout</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action#Soft_blackout" title="Wikipedia:SOPA initiative/Action">soft blackout</a> were adequately differentiated, or because you expressed general support without specifying a preference. Please ensure that your voice is heard by clarifying your position accordingly. </p><p>Thank you. </p><p><small> Message delivered as per request on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#SOPA_blackout" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">ANI</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Thehelpfulbot" title="User:Thehelpfulbot"><span style="color:red;"><b>The</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thehelpfulone" title="User talk:Thehelpfulone"><span style="color:black;"> <b>Helpful</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thehelpfulbot" title="Special:Contributions/Thehelpfulbot"><span style="color:red;"> <b>Bot</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Thehelpfulbot-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 14 January 2012 (UTC)</a> </small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thehelpfulbot-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thehelpfulbot-2012-01-14T16:36:00.000Z-Your_input_is_needed_on_the_SOPA_initiative"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(20)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Siiiii_copyright_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Siiiii_copyright_issue-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Siiiii_copyright_issue-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Siiiii copyright issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Siiiii_copyright_issue-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-16T22:17:00.000Z-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-20 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-20"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z-Siiiii_copyright_issue"></span>I'm copying this here in hopes you'll see it. When I had first created the article, the bot informed me of the copyright issue. Checked the comparison, changed the text and ran the check again. The link confirmed that there were no matches with copyright material and the currently posted link STILL shows that there are no matches with copyrighted material. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSiiiii&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.siiiii.co.uk%2Fbio.html&minwords=3&minchars=13&removequotations=&removenumbers=">http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSiiiii&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.siiiii.co.uk%2Fbio.html&minwords=3&minchars=13&removequotations=&removenumbers=</a> </p><p>I feel this copyright issue may be in error. Please advise.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thedeathsound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thedeathsound (page does not exist)">Thedeathsound</a> </p> <dl><dd>Also, Paul Devine of Siiiii contacted me wondering how to best go about clearing this up, granting permission or whathave you, for Siiiii's page.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thedeathsound&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thedeathsound (page does not exist)">Thedeathsound</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thedeathsound" title="User talk:Thedeathsound">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z-Siiiii_copyright_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z-Siiiii_copyright_issue"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z-Siiiii_copyright_issue"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-16T22:17:00.000Z-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"></span>I reviewed the text and reviewed the text on Siiiii's Web site. It is generally the same. Things have been rephrased and slightly re-ordered (hence the duplication detector result), but it's the same content. However, if Siiiii is willing to donate the content via the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials" title="Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials">Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials</a>, there's no problem at all. I think the assertions of notability in the article are valid and it could be a worthwhile addition to the encyclopedia. I'm also willing to have someone else on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CP">WP:CP</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCV">WP:SCV</a> look over the article again, but my opinion is it's the same content. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-16T22:17:00.000Z-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-16T22:17:00.000Z-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-16T22:17:00.000Z-Thedeathsound-2012-01-16T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(21)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system" data-mw-thread-id="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"></span>reg: removal of Knowledge based community sharing system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:33:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-21 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-21"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system"></span>Hi madman!! </p><p>please review the page Knowledge based community sharing system. It was the project scenario being done by thousands of students from India for The Great Mind challenge of IBM, a software contest<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>. It was proposed by me and IBM accepted as its official project scenario. The problem I hope you identified would be of the document in scrid.com. scribd is meant for sharing files. And the entire doc you found in scribd is written by me.If you have any more queries pls report it to my talk page.Just revoke the deletion once again for the good sake. Thanks in advance for looking at me. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Karthik9u&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Karthik9u (page does not exist)">Karthik9u</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Karthik9u" title="User talk:Karthik9u">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Karthik9u" title="Special:Contributions/Karthik9u">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 19 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"></span>Hey Karthik9u. I'm glad to get the opportunity to follow up with you on this. I noted that your document on scribd was shared under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial license. Unfortunately, that's incompatible with Wikipedia's license; content contributed to Wikipedia must be released under the GNU Free Documentation License or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license (which means that it can be used commercially). If you're willing to change the license on Scribd, I'd be happy to restore the page for you; if you can't or don't wish to do so, you can follow the instructions at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials" title="Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials">Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials</a> (basically, just e-mailing confirmation to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org) verify your authorship and that you're donating the material to us. It's all in the interest of making sure no one's stealing your work. :) Please let me know if you have any further questions! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 19 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-19T15:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span>Thanks madman for your quick response. Before making my option you gave for me first I want to tell the present situation of the page concept. The page created by me is my own project. It was a good idea and IBM India found that the topic is interesting and choose to use that in the student competition called THE GREAT MIND CHALLENGE. I described the proposal. Later many students across India are developing the proposal given by me. So the same doc that you find in scribd will be observed with many peoples blogs and sites. I dont think we have copy right issues here. I have a good idea and I am proposing it and publishing for the goodness of this world. Well I can remove contents of the file in www.scribd.com by seeking the uploader to remove it but you can notice the same document in many sites. The reference page of IBM TGMC has given the same doc. I mentioned the refences in the article where you find the same doc. So please dont think it is a big mistake to publish my article. Please differ your move and bring back the page "Knowledge based community sharing system". <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Karthik9u&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Karthik9u (page does not exist)">Karthik9u</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Karthik9u" title="User talk:Karthik9u">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Karthik9u" title="Special:Contributions/Karthik9u">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-19T20:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:33:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z"></span>Hey Karthik9u. I didn't mean to give you the impression that your document/proposal had to be taken down anywhere else. We just need to confirm that it's okay for us to publish it under the GNU Free Documentation License or the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. So if <i>you've</i> published it anywhere and you note there that the text is available under one of said licenses, that's good enough and probably the easiest thing to do. I feel like I'm still being a little dense here with my explanations, so feel free to continue to ask follow-up questions. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:33:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:33:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:33:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-20T16:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(22)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="St_Peter's_School,_Seaford" data-mw-thread-id="h-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"><span id="St_Peter.27s_School.2C_Seaford"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"></span>St Peter's School, Seaford<span data-mw-comment-end="h-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:39:00.000Z-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-22 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-22"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford"></span>Dear Madman,<br> Thanks for your comment on St Peter's School, Seaford entry.<br> I am so very much at a learning stage with Wikipedia and need your help. I have read through a lot of the help pages and have a couple of comments/questions:<br> 1. I have amended the two links to the website that I run by simply removing the 'l' from 'html' - sorted.<br> 2. I have uploaded two photos but neither show on the Wikipedia page. Can you tell me why?<br> 3. What additional section should I add? My website has a lot more to offer but not all relevant to Wikipedia really - or is some of it?<br> 4. Is this the correct place to contact you? Sorry if it isn't.<br> Very grateful for your input. Is there a better/simpler/user-friendly set of advice pages to advise me how to put material on Wikipedia? Thank you. Am I correct signing off with these four tildes? <a href="/wiki/User:StephenCKent" title="User:StephenCKent">StephenCKent</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StephenCKent" title="User talk:StephenCKent">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z-St_Peter's_School,_Seaford"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:39:00.000Z-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Greetings, StephenCKent! I'd be happy to help. First of all, I can follow the links now and see everything's properly licensed, so that's great! No remaining problems there. As far as the photos, I <a href="/wiki/Special:ListFiles/StephenCKent" title="Special:ListFiles/StephenCKent">don't see that you've uploaded any photos</a>. You'll want to go <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Upload">here</a> to upload those photos, and give them the same names you specified in the article. In the description, you may also want to note that you took the pictures yourself, if applicable. As far as advice pages... I think some of the most basic pages that'll help you at this point are <a href="/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Wiki markup">Help:Wiki markup</a> (regarding organizing and formatting your page) and <a href="/wiki/Help:Files" title="Help:Files">Help:Files</a> (regarding uploading images and sounds). But do feel free to ask me any other questions you may have; this is indeed the correct place to contact me. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:39:00.000Z-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:39:00.000Z-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-20T18:39:00.000Z-StephenCKent-2012-01-20T18:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(23)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Mildred_Seydell" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mildred_Seydell-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mildred_Seydell-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Mildred_Seydell" title="Mildred Seydell">Mildred Seydell</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mildred_Seydell-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T17:25:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-23 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-23"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span>I am appalled at your conclusion. <b>To reply to what you alleged</b> </p> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="background-color: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid var(--border-color-subtle, #c8ccd1); margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="background-color: var(--background-color-interactive, #eaecf0); font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align: left;"><div style="display: inline; font-size: 115%; color: var(--color-base, #202122);">Duplication Detector results</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="border: solid 1px var(--border-color-subtle, #c8ccd1); padding: 8px; background-color: var(--background-color-base, #fff); color: var(--color-base, #202122);"> <div>Comparing documents for duplicated text: <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Seydell">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Seydell</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2460">http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2460</a> Downloaded document from <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Seydell">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mildred_Seydell</a> (90772 characters (UTF8), 3100 words) Downloaded document from <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2460">http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2460</a> (29254 characters, 921 words) Total match candidates found: 174 (before eliminating redundant matches) </p><p>Matched phrases: </p><p>lisby gregory c harris linda l winter 1991 georgia reporters at the scopes trial a comparison of newspaper coverage georgia historical quarterly georgia historical society 75 784 803 http www reading gregory c lisby and linda l harris georgia reporters at the scopes trial a comparison of newspaper coverage georgia historical quarterly 75 winter 1991 784 803 mary elizabeth holcomb (14 words, 101 characters) </p><p>state university pp 254 holcomb mary elizabeth 1997 master's thesis mildred seydell the road from southern belle to feminist journalist georgia state university seydell papers including extended biography of mildred historical quarterly 75 winter 1991 784 803 mary elizabeth holcomb mildred seydell the road from southern belle to feminist journalist master's thesis georgia state university 1997 mildred seydell 98 of (10 words, 67 characters) THIS IS THE TITLE OF THE PAPER. AND THE AUTHOR OF THE PAPER. IT IS A CITATION </p><p>georgia breaking the gender barrier in newspapers in the state she was a nationally syndicated columnist and book author she founded the seydell journal a quarterly journal that was first women to work as a newspaper journalist in georgia she was a nationally syndicated columnist and book author a strong advocate for women's rights and the founder of (9 words, 57 characters) THIS HAS BEEN TOTALLY REWRITTEN. </p><p>all in a day personal stories and opinions in which she emerged as a prominent advocate of women's rights in her columns she detailed to suffering of the unemployed an advice format to one of personal anecdotes and opinions she emerged as a prominent advocate of women's rights during mildred seydell the 1930s seydell also began what was (9 words, 53 characters) YOU HAVE A MATCH FOR THEIR NAMES. SURELY YOU DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO PARAPHRASE THEIR NAMES. I admit that "emerged as a prominent advocate of women's rights" is shared and will rewrite it. </p><p>reading 6 external links edit early life she was born to bessie rutherford and little berry vasser woolley her father was an attorney and businessman her namesake was rutherford woolley was born in atlanta on march 21 1889 to bessie rutherford and little berry vasser woolley a lawyer and businessman and was named for her great (8 words, 52 characters) YOU HAVE A MATCH FOR THEIR NAMES. SURELY YOU DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TO PARAPHRASE THEIR NAMES </p><p>her father was an attorney and businessman her namesake was her great aunt mildred lewis rutherford she attended the lucy cobb institute in athens georgia and later vasser woolley a lawyer and businessman and was named for her great aunt mildred lewis rutherford she was educated at the lucy cobb institute in athens and (7 words, 43 characters) </p><p>discover the intimate personality characteristics of big names such as u s vice president charles g dawes and film director cecil b demille she even claimed to hand reading an examination of their hands her subjects included u s vice president charles g dawes filmmaker cecil b demille and circus gorilla john daniel ii (7 words, 34 characters) THIS IS NOT A "CLOSE PARAPHRASE" </p><p>and see the best splash in print she also founded the mildred seydell publishing company and was a regular on the lecture circuit contents 1 early a move to belgium with her second husband she established the mildred seydell publishing company and the seydell quarterly a journal of essays and poetry she (6 words, 42 characters) AGAIN YOU HAVE MATCHES FOR THE WORDS "BELGIUM" SEYDELL QuARTERLY AND SEYDELL PUBLISHING COMPANY. </p><p>seydell449 retrieved january 24 2012 mildred seydell multimedia courtesy of manuscript archives and rare book library emory university http www georgiaencyclopedia org nge multimedia jsp id in the mildred woolley seydell collection at emory university 's manuscript archives and rare book library in atlanta suggested reading gregory c lisby and linda l (6 words, 41 characters) THIS IS A CITATION. </p><p>unemployed in the 1930s and offered advice seydell became intertwined with the national woman's party and the struggle for equal rights following passage of the 19th seydell also began what was to be a lifelong association with the national woman's party and its postsuffrage struggle for equal rights serving as atlanta chair (6 words, 35 characters) I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE NAME OF THE "NATIONAL WOMAN'S PARTY" IF; YOU WOUILD PREFER "QUEST" INSTEAD OF STRUGGLE, I CAN DO THAT. </p><p>namesake was her great aunt mildred lewis rutherford she attended the lucy cobb institute in athens georgia and later the sorbonne edit career in 1922 she her great aunt mildred lewis rutherford she was educated at the lucy cobb institute in athens and later at the sorbonne in paris france she married (6 words, 33 characters) AGAIN WITH THE PROPER NAMES. MILDRED LEWIS RUTHERFORD, LUCY COBB INSTGITUTE, ATHENS GEORGIA AND SORBONNE. </p><p>chairperson of atlanta and georgia respectively in 1935 she became associate editor of equal rights its national publication other women's organizations in which she was as atlanta chair in 1931 georgia chair in 1932 and associate editor of equal rights magazine a national woman's party publication in 1935 in the (5 words, 32 characters) PROPER NAMES. CAN'T CHANGE EQUAL RIGHTS MAGAZINE NAME. ATLANTA AND GEORGIA. DIFFERNT PRHASING </p><p>she met while studying at the sorbonne she bore him two sons paul and john after mr seydel died from complications of a colectomy she married paul seydel a belgian scientist in 1910 they had two sons paul and john her husband died in 1944 and she married his brother (5 words, 22 characters) THIS IS NOT A CLOSE PARAPHRASE. CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPER NAMES </p><p>h i j k lisby gregory c may 5 2010 mildred seydell 1889 1988 the new georgia encyclopedia georgia state university http www georgiaencyclopedia >> print journalism >> newspapers >> writers and columnists >> mildred seydell 1889 1988 advanced search certain features within the nge site require the (4 words, 25 characters) CITATION </p><p>seydell became intertwined with the national woman's party and the struggle for equal rights following passage of the 19th amendment in 1931 and 1932 lifelong association with the national woman's party and its postsuffrage struggle for equal rights serving as atlanta chair in 1931 georgia chair in 1932 (4 words, 25 characters) </p><p>service other columns included what would you do advice column from 1926 to 1931 renamed as mildred seydell says in 1933 and all in her first advice column what would you do was published from 1926 to 1931 when she renamed the column all in a day and (4 words, 17 characters) </p><p>hearst papers and the universal news service other columns included what would you do advice column from 1926 to 1931 renamed as mildred seydell famous hollywood stars of the era her first advice column what would you do was published from 1926 to 1931 when she renamed the (4 words, 17 characters) </p><p>mildred seydell wikipedia the free encyclopedia mildred seydell from wikipedia the free encyclopedia jump to navigation search investigation new georgia encyclopedia mildred seydell 1889 1988 nge >> media >> print journalism >> newspapers (3 words, 28 characters) </p><p>5 2010 mildred seydell 1889 1988 the new georgia encyclopedia georgia state university http www georgiaencyclopedia org nge article jsp id h 2460 the road from southern belle to feminist journalist master's thesis georgia state university 1997 mildred seydell 98 of roswell globe trotting newspaper writer (3 words, 24 characters) </p><p>e january 29 2010 mildred lewis rutherford 1851 1928 the new georgia encyclopedia university of georgia http www georgiaencyclopedia org nge article jsp new georgia encyclopedia mildred seydell 1889 1988 nge >> media >> print journalism (3 words, 24 characters) </p><p>mildred seydell march 21 1889 february 20 1988 born mildred rutherford woolley was a pioneering woman journalist in georgia breaking the gender barrier her own publishing company and quarterly journal mildred mildred seydell rutherford woolley was born in atlanta on march 21 1889 to bessie rutherford (3 words, 22 characters) </p><p>the table for dinner her interviews appeared in her column talks with celebrities hollywood celebrities mostly which was carried in 27 hearst papers her overseas reporting led to another syndicated series of articles talks with celebrities in which she interviewed many famous hollywood stars of the (3 words, 22 characters) </p><p>in 1922 she began her career as a journalist with the charleston gazette a west virginia newspaper in 1924 she moved to atlanta name began writing as a community correspondent in 1921 for the charleston gazette in west virginia in 1924 she invaded the male dominated (3 words, 22 characters) PROPER NAMES </p><p>2010 mildred lewis rutherford 1851 1928 the new georgia encyclopedia university of georgia http www georgiaencyclopedia org nge article jsp id h 3178 project of the georgia humanities council in partnership with the university of georgia press the university system of georgia galileo and the office (3 words, 21 characters) </p><p>20 1988 born mildred rutherford woolley was a pioneering woman journalist in georgia breaking the gender barrier in newspapers in the state she one of the first women to work as a newspaper journalist in georgia she was a nationally syndicated columnist and book author a (3 words, 21 characters) </p><p>the georgia federation of women's clubs as seydell wrote in the atlanta georgian the school is called the light in the mountains because she landed a job writing for the society page of the atlanta georgian part of william randolph hearst's vast chain of newspapers confronted (3 words, 20 characters) THESE DON'T CONVEY THE SAME THOUGHT AND ARE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT </p><p>state university seydell papers including extended biography of mildred seydell at emory university library edit external links journalist mildred seydell does a hand her papers are housed in the mildred woolley seydell collection at emory university 's manuscript archives and rare book library in atlanta suggested (3 words, 19 characters) PROPER NAMES, NAME OF THE COLLECTION </p><p>that paper she was affiliated with the atlanta georgian one of william randolph hearst 's string of newspapers working there from 1926 until writing for the society page of the atlanta georgian part of william randolph hearst's vast chain of newspapers confronted with barriers that discouraged (3 words, 19 characters) </p><p>she was a nationally syndicated columnist and book author she founded the seydell journal a quarterly journal that was the successor to the the atlanta journal at the same time in 1940 seydell founded the seydell syndicate think tank and the think tank newsletter which featured (3 words, 19 characters) </p><p>rutherford woolley was a pioneering woman journalist in georgia breaking the gender barrier in newspapers in the state she was a nationally syndicated for more information mildred seydell 1889 1988 mildred seydell broke the gender barrier and was one of the first women to work as (3 words, 18 characters) </p><p>of birth atlanta georgia u s state date of death february 20 1988 place of death roswell georgia u s state retrieved from were essential messages of the women's cause seydell died on february 20 1988 in roswell at age ninety eight her papers are housed (3 words, 16 characters) </p><p>first marriage was from 1910 to 1944 to paul bernard seydel a belgian chemist scientist who she met while studying at the sorbonne later at the sorbonne in paris france she married paul seydel a belgian scientist in 1910 they had two sons paul and john (3 words, 16 characters) </p><p>obituary mildred seydell journalist 98 associated press new york times february 21 1988 http www nytimes com 1988 02 21 obituaries mildred seydell 98 of roswell globe trotting newspaper writer atlanta journal constitution february 21 1988 gregory c lisby georgia state university updated 5 5 2010 (3 words, 16 characters) </p><p>seydel a belgian chemist scientist who she met while studying at the sorbonne she bore him two sons paul and john after mr educated at the lucy cobb institute in athens and later at the sorbonne in paris france she married paul seydel a belgian scientist (3 words, 15 characters) </p><p>67 5 feet 20 6 m linear at emory university a collection of early and rare belgian poetry and masterpiece books was created to bear a child out of wedlock chins up is a collection of positive daily spiritual vitamins first published as her columns in (3 words, 15 characters) YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING! </p><p>u s vice president charles g dawes and film director cecil b demille she even claimed to have been able to read the subjects included u s vice president charles g dawes filmmaker cecil b demille and circus gorilla john daniel ii in 1925 seydell who (3 words, 15 characters) </p><p>atlanta woman's club from 1941 43 seydell served as president of the atlanta federation of women's clubs seydell was also active in the when she landed a job writing for the society page of the atlanta georgian part of william randolph hearst's vast chain of newspapers (3 words, 14 characters) PROPER NAMES </p><p><br> state federation of women's clubs it was founded in 1909 by the georgia federation of women's clubs as seydell wrote in the atlanta galileo and the office of the governor copyright 2004 2012 by the georgia humanities council and the university of georgia press all rights (3 words, 14 characters) THIS IS MAINLY A CIATION </p><p>seydell journal a quarterly journal that was the successor to the think tank a short lived biweekly journal of poetry articles and reviews in 1940 seydell founded the seydell syndicate think tank and the think tank newsletter which featured current events book reviews and poetry until (3 words, 14 characters) AGAIN WITH THE NAMES OF THE JOURNALS </p><p>palms of a well known circus gorilla called sultan aka john daniel ii during the scopes trial seydell was sent with a picture charles g dawes filmmaker cecil b demille and circus gorilla john daniel ii in 1925 seydell who had never covered a major news (3 words, 14 characters) PROPER NAMES. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU CALL A "CIRCUS GORILLA" </p><p>writer children paul vasser seydel john rutherford seydel mildred seydell march 21 1889 february 20 1988 born mildred rutherford woolley was a pioneering mildred mildred seydell rutherford woolley was born in atlanta on march 21 1889 to bessie rutherford and little berry vasser woolley a lawyer (3 words, 13 characters) </p><p>Matching phrases found: 41 </p><p>Frankly, I don't know how or where to correct this misapprehension. I trust you do. </p> We cover the same ground. Same cast of characters. The sources appear a lot, and certainly they are shared, but not "closely paraphrased." What else can yhou do with a sorurce name? It is properly sourced. It is sliced and diced, and written and paraphrased.</div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Please read the articles for real, not just pulling phrases out of the air with a computer. Compare them. This is wrong! It is a wrong-headed accusation that is utterly baseless. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"></span>As it happens, I hadn't even looked at Duplication Detector results, so <i>your</i> allegation that I hadn't even read the article is a little insulting itself. I did read the article, and the lead section and the first section at the very least were similar enough to the referenced URL that I believed there could be a problem. This is not a judgment of the article and it's not a judgment of you or the other excellent contributors who have been editing it. I took the trouble to write a very polite comment on your talk page; could you please do me the same courtesy?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Just looking at the beginning of the article, I read "breaking the gender barrier" vs. "broke the gender barrier", "nationally syndicated columnist and book author", "an attorney and businessman" vs. "a lawyer and businessman", "Her namesake was her great aunt" vs. "[she] was named for her great aunt", "She attended the Lucy Cobb Institute" vs. "She was educated at the Lucy Cobb Institute", et cetera. When these phrases are so similar and presented in the same way, it's a problem.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>So I noted that the article may have a couple problems and needs to be investigated, by myself and other volunteers. I'm working through a backlog and unable to check against every reference right now, but I'm confident that this is an easy case that can be cleared up right away. Either others will agree with you that it's not a problem, or it'll just need a few minor rewrites. It's really not something to get upset about, okay? — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-27T23:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z"></span>I have a desktop plagiarism detector, and would be pleased to send you the results, if you want to send me an e-mail (I can be reached through Wikipedia) where I might attach them. They are PDF files. I can't dispute the similarities. We actually have had a bunch of different formulations on the first sentence, and this one was a synthesis by several editors. I had an important writer with the right credentials -- she is a major academic in this subject -- examine the article, and she was the author of the last iteration I put in for the first sentence. I don't think (but don't actually know) whether she bothered to look at the sources, as I had directed her only to the problem on the talk page and the construct of the first sentence. In any event, I mean no discourtesy. But I take my avocation as an editor very seriously, and do not suffer gratuitous and unfounded accusations in silence. I will assume good faith, and that we merely have a failure to communicate. Nevertheless, when you put up the results of the bot, I take it at face value that you mean what you say. I look forward to working with you, so that we can all get a satisfactory result, and better our work in progress. Sincerely, <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z"></span>I look forward to working with you as well. I'm going to try to thoroughly review the article either this evening or tomorrow morning and should have suggestions at that time; usually I'll even find additional sources we can work with. It's possible (and perhaps even probable) that the small portion of the article that seemed problematic to me is all there is, and a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Close_paraphrasing" title="Template:Close paraphrasing">close paraphrasing</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template and a small rewrite would have been a far better action to take on my part. We're all human. :) And I try very hard not to be gratuitous in flagging articles for review. I know it's hardly what you want to see when you've taken the effort to write new content for the encyclopedia, and too many hurdles have a chilling effect on content creation. This is just one of my focuses as an administrator and my effort to improve the encyclopedia and keep it free. I appreciate your effort to assume good faith as we both work toward that goal. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T00:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z"></span>I suggest you start fresh in the morning. All I wanted was a <i>really good</i> and <i>really well-sourced</i> article, and a DYK. You (and others who are on the same scent) are messing with both goals. I and my collaborators write articles that are far better than most. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T01:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z"></span>Posted a rewrite of the article. Then put back the immediately prior iteration which included your copyright violation investigation template. Please access the reswrite through the history. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T01:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T17:11:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z"></span>It looks like the awesome <a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> got to it before I could. Thank you! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-28T17:11:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T17:11:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-28T17:11:00.000Z-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T11:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T17:25:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span>She did a great job cleaning up my rewritten article. Please see my comments on her talk pages. Glad we could all get together; I'm 'sure' (not) the article will now sail through on the DYK (I hope). It is a better article for all the mutual effort. "<a href="/wiki/Don%27t_worry,_be_happy" class="mw-redirect" title="Don't worry, be happy">Don't worry, be happy</a>!" — <a href="/wiki/Bobby_McFerrin" title="Bobby McFerrin">Bobby McFerrin</a> <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml"><a href="/wiki/User:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#060">7&6=thirteen</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:7%266%3Dthirteen" title="User talk:7&6=thirteen"><b style="color:#000">☎</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T17:25:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T17:25:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-7&6=thirteen-2012-01-28T17:25:00.000Z-Mildred_Seydell"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(24)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-22T20:15:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-24 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-24"> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #F0F8FF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" valign="top"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:CopyClean_Barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><noscript><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/CopyClean_Barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="100" data-file-height="95"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 100px;height: 95px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/CopyClean_Barnstar.png" data-width="100" data-height="95" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><b>The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;">For your substantial and high quality contributions to cleaning up copyright concerns at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCV">WP:SCV</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl" title="User talk:Moonriddengirl">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span>So, I always feel a little bit presumptuous with these ("With the power vested in me by, um, no one, I hereby recognize...."), but until we get an actual vested body to recognize this kind of work, it's up to us to recognize each other. So, great job! <clap clap> Thanks much. I, personally, am grateful. :) And I think you're doing a great service to Wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:Moonriddengirl" title="User:Moonriddengirl">Moonriddengirl</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moonriddengirl" title="User talk:Moonriddengirl">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-22T20:15:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! :D It's one of the few backlogs with which I actually feel qualified to work. You do awesome work with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CP">WP:CP</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CCI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CCI">WP:CCI</a> yourself! And I hope to chip in a little there too when I can; there's always more to do. ;) Cheers, — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-22T20:15:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-22T20:15:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-22T20:15:00.000Z-Moonriddengirl-2012-01-22T16:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(25)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Thanks_for_Helping" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_Helping-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_Helping-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for Helping<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_Helping-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-23T16:07:00.000Z-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-25 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-25"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Helping"></span>Dear Madman, </p><p>I appreciated your deletion of Sindh Culture Day article, I realize it that It was Copy and Pasted, let me write it with proper citation. --<a href="/wiki/User:Faizanalivarya" title="User:Faizanalivarya">Faizanalivarya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faizanalivarya" title="User talk:Faizanalivarya">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Helping" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Helping"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z-Thanks_for_Helping"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-23T16:07:00.000Z-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"></span>No problem! The article hasn't been protected, so feel free to recreate it at any time; please just make sure when you do that the article is written entirely in your own words (you can't use the words of the Web site, even paraphrased, and then just cite the Web site). Please let me know if you have any questions or encounter any problems while writing your article. Happy editing! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-23T16:07:00.000Z-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-23T16:07:00.000Z-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-23T16:07:00.000Z-Faizanalivarya-2012-01-23T16:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(26)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Talkback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talkback-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talkback-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"></span>Talkback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talkback-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-23T17:01:00.000Z-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-26 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-26"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z-Talkback"></span>{{Talkback|Talk:NIRAS }} Please take a look .Just wanted to keep the discussion at one place.Thanks.<a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z-Talkback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z-Talkback"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z-Talkback"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-23T17:01:00.000Z-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! NIRAS is on my watchlist. :) — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-23T17:01:00.000Z-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-23T17:01:00.000Z-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-23T17:01:00.000Z-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-2012-01-23T16:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(27)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"></span>Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:50:00.000Z-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-27 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-27"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z-Thanks"></span>Thanks Madman for restoring the service of <b>Emijrp/List of Wikipedians by number of edits </b> on mr.wikipedia. - Rahul Deshmukh <a href="/wiki/User:Rahuldeshmukh101" title="User:Rahuldeshmukh101">Rahuldeshmukh101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahuldeshmukh101" title="User talk:Rahuldeshmukh101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z-Thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z-Thanks"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z-Thanks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:50:00.000Z-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"></span>No problem! If you need anything else, feel free to re-open the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Query_service">DBQ</a> or make another. Cheers! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:50:00.000Z-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:50:00.000Z-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:50:00.000Z-Rahuldeshmukh101-2012-01-24T05:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(28)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"></span>Deletion <a href="/wiki/Yvonne_Mwale" title="Yvonne Mwale">Yvonne Mwale</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:54:00.000Z-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-28 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-28"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale"></span>You deleted the article because of copyright issues. The section 'Biography' had some similarities with www.yvonnemwale.com/biography.<br> Since I'm the author of the original text and decided to donate the text to the mentioned artist as well as to Wikipedia, I asked the owner of the site to agree to donate the text under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL to the public. Please review the article for undeletion.<br> Besides that I agree that the links to sources for the information are missing and have to be added immediately.<br> Thanks for your assistance! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Matthiask1979&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Matthiask1979 (page does not exist)">Matthiask1979</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthiask1979" title="User talk:Matthiask1979">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Matthiask1979" title="Special:Contributions/Matthiask1979">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z-Deletion_Yvonne_Mwale"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:54:00.000Z-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"></span>I have restored the article for you. Thank you so much for your willingness to help and your prompt attention to this matter. Happy editing! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:54:00.000Z-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:54:00.000Z-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:54:00.000Z-Matthiask1979-2012-01-24T09:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(29)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Talkback_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talkback_2-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talkback_2-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Talkback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talkback_2-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Madman-2012-01-24T20:23:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-29 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-29"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z-Talkback_2"></span>{{talkback|WT:SPI|Can a checkuser deal with this?|ts=12:01, 24 January 2012 (UTC)}} <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z-Talkback_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z-Talkback_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z-Talkback_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"></span>Answered there. — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T12:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z"></span>I noticed your name on the BAG list today shortly after we talked at WT:SPI, and was surprised that I had never seen your name before, until I saw that you've been pretty much absent the whole time <i>I'</i>ve been active here. So welcome back! :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-24T12:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T20:23:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! :D — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-24T20:23:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-24T20:23:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-24T20:23:00.000Z-Amalthea-2012-01-24T19:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(30)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Rigpa_organization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rigpa_organization-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rigpa_organization-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Rigpa_organization" class="mw-redirect" title="Rigpa organization">Rigpa organization</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rigpa_organization-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Op47-2012-01-28T15:31:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-30 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-30"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z-Rigpa_organization"></span>You gave this article a clean bill of health so to speak, but the note doesn't make sense in conjunction with the bot's report. The note says the article is a properly attributed split, but the bot log is concerned that the article is a rip off of an external site and has not complained about attribution to the original article. I do believe the external site has copied off Wikipedia and that there should be no problem. Can you make sure there really is no problem with the article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Op47&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Op47 (page does not exist)">Op47</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Op47" title="User talk:Op47">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z-Rigpa_organization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:45, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z-Rigpa_organization"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z-Rigpa_organization"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"></span>Indeed there's no problem; that's why I gave it a clean bill of health. The Web site in question is a Wikipedia mirror. From its footer: "This article is copied from an article on Wikipedia.org - the free encyclopedia created and edited by online user community. The text was not checked or edited by anyone on our staff. Although the vast majority of the wikipedia encyclopedia articles provide accurate and timely information please do not assume the accuracy of any particular article. This article is distributed under the terms of GNU Free Documentation License." Cheers, — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z-Op47-2012-01-28T00:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Op47-2012-01-28T15:31:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z"></span>Thankyou for clearing that up and thankyou for investigating in the first place. regards <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Op47&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Op47 (page does not exist)">Op47</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Op47" title="User talk:Op47">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Op47-2012-01-28T15:31:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Op47-2012-01-28T15:31:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Op47-2012-01-28T15:31:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-28T00:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(31)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"></span>reg: removal of Knowledge based community sharing system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Karthik9u-2012-01-28T20:38:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-31 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-31"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2"></span>Hi madman!! I am glad to see your reply. I am ready to publish under the GNU Free Documentation License. Please revoke my contribution page. I will be happy to receive any guidelines you wish me to follow. Cheers!!! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Karthik9u&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Karthik9u (page does not exist)">Karthik9u</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Karthik9u" title="User talk:Karthik9u">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Karthik9u" title="Special:Contributions/Karthik9u">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 21 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z-reg:_removal_of_Knowledge_based_community_sharing_system_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"></span>As stated above, please indicate this in the document somewhere on the Web or e-mail this to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z-Karthik9u-2012-01-21T16:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-28T20:38:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z"></span>Done mailing as indicated. Waiting to see my contribution back. Your guidance is great. Keep rocking!!! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Karthik9u&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Karthik9u (page does not exist)">Karthik9u</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Karthik9u" title="User talk:Karthik9u">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Karthik9u" title="Special:Contributions/Karthik9u">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Karthik9u-2012-01-28T20:38:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 28 January 2012 (UTC)</a></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-28T20:38:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Karthik9u-2012-01-28T20:38:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-25T19:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(32)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Nanette_Hassall" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nanette_Hassall-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nanette_Hassall-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Nanette_Hassall" title="Nanette Hassall">Nanette Hassall</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nanette_Hassall-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:35:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>14 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-32 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-32"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span>I'm the writer. I dispute your evaluation of this article. The Bot hit on phrases like "the Merce Cunningham Dance Company", "Dartington College," "Strider Dance Company", "Head of the Dance Department," and similar phrases that can't be changed. In no case were complete sentences used or even partial sentences. In a short article, the facts can't be changed. Do you still have the Bot report that you can review more carefully? <a href="/wiki/User:Tattoo515" title="User:Tattoo515">Tattoo515</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tattoo515" title="User talk:Tattoo515">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"></span>I actually didn't use the bot report at all. It was obvious that the content came from the referenced Web site; it followed its structure exactly. While every sentence may have been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing" title="Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing">paraphrased</a>, each mapped to one in the original. Articles have to be in your own words, or else they are at best derivative works, and there's no information on the referenced Web site that would indicate license to create derivative works. For more information, please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing" title="Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing">Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing</a>. If you're the owner of the material in question, you can see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_material" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted material">Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted material</a> to see how to grant permission if you'd like, and if you're not you can see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission" title="Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission">Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission</a> to see how to request permission. Please let me know if you have any further questions. — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T00:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z"></span>Please read the material at your link on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing" title="Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing">Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing</a> to see the procedure you are to follow if you think you have reviewed an article which includes it. Copyright isn't about structure, it's about exact wording. Again, in a short article, the dates and facts can't be changed, so will occur in the articles in approximately the same sequence. I understand that due to recent events, copyright patrol might be more stringent; however, my account has now been cancelled. I've written nearly 800 articles and had autopatrolled privileges. It would have been appropriate to post a "speedy delete" warning on my talk page and discuss the issues before proceeding with the deletion on copyright grounds. After reading the material, I continue to dispute your actions. <a href="/wiki/User:Tattoo515" title="User:Tattoo515">Tattoo515</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tattoo515" title="User talk:Tattoo515">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately, I believe you're mistaken when you say "Copyright isn't about structure, it's about exact wording." I think you may be correct when you say my communication was lacking; unfortunately, I sometimes neglect to let contributors know about actions taken regarding blatant copyright violations because CorenSearchBot should have already warned them. Personally, I thought the violation was blatant enough for CSD, but if you'd like I'd be happy to restore it and list it at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems" title="Wikipedia:Copyright problems">Wikipedia:Copyright problems</a> to be reviewed by another administrator. Thanks, — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z"></span>This will be sufficient if you can also restore my account. Again, "blatant" copyright violation is a cut-and-paste. Paraphrase is not "blatant" violation. <a href="/wiki/User:Tattoo515" title="User:Tattoo515">Tattoo515</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tattoo515" title="User talk:Tattoo515">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z"></span>Tattoo515, I've restored the article for review and contacted one of the best reviewers I know to see what she thinks. I'm also going to see if I can find some sources on my own so we can expand the article and make it less of a derivative work. Thanks! — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z-Tattoo515-2012-01-29T01:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. However, since she's Australian and a choreographer rather than a video game, there's not that much available. Note the list of references I've already included. <a href="/wiki/User:Pkeets" title="User:Pkeets">Pkeets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pkeets" title="User talk:Pkeets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T01:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:00:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z"></span>Rewrote the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Pkeets" title="User:Pkeets">Pkeets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pkeets" title="User talk:Pkeets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:00:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:00:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:00:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T02:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span>I think it looks just fine! Thanks for your understanding in this. :) — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z-Nanette_Hassall"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z"></span>If that's the structure you like. It's a series of lists, which are discouraged by the Wikipedia style guide, and the chonological data is lost. However, lists are never a copyright infingement, as no creative writing is involved. Again, you could have avoided the unpleasantness by asking for a rewrite in advance. <a href="/wiki/User:Pkeets" title="User:Pkeets">Pkeets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pkeets" title="User talk:Pkeets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span>(ec) Mainly I was looking at the three paragraphs of text, which look to have been rewritten well, and text still outweighs the lists. And your point is well taken. — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:35:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z"></span>They're not rewritten well. It's a series of lists without chonological information. Her education: list, her employment: list, her other employment: list, her awards: list. Text is minimal. Please check the style guide. <a href="/wiki/User:Pkeets" title="User:Pkeets">Pkeets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pkeets" title="User talk:Pkeets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:35:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:35:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:35:00.000Z-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:29:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Are you going to merge the talk pages? Editing on the talk page has not been restored. <a href="/wiki/User:Pkeets" title="User:Pkeets">Pkeets</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pkeets" title="User talk:Pkeets">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Madman/Archive_2#c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:29:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:29:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:29:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Madman-2012-01-29T18:30:00.000Z-Pkeets-2012-01-29T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I'll merge them. — <strong><span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Madman" title="User talk:Madman">madman</a></span></strong> <a 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