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<meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao-20241009003600"><span id="Hello_Haitong.2C_This_is_Chentao"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao-20241009003600"></span>Hello Haitong, This is Chentao<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao-20241009003600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Hello Haitong, This is Chentao"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chentaocui-20241009003600-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao"></span>Just want to say hi to you. <a href="/wiki/User:Chentaocui" title="User:Chentaocui">Chentaocui</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chentaocui" title="User talk:Chentaocui">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haitongzhang#c-Chentaocui-20241009003600-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chentaocui-20241009003600-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chentaocui-20241009003600-Hello_Haitong,_This_is_Chentao"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome!-20241009162800"><span id="Welcome.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome!-20241009162800"></span>Welcome!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome!-20241009162800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Welcome!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ian_(Wiki_Ed)-20241009162800-Welcome!"></span>Hello, Haitongzhang, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/Welcome_to_Wikipedia" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia">welcome to Wikipedia</a>! My name is Ian and I work with Wiki Education; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment. </p><p>I hope you enjoy editing here. If you haven't already done so, please check out the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students">student training library</a>, which introduces you to editing and Wikipedia's core principles. You may also want to check out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">the Teahouse</a>, a community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to helping new users. Below are some resources to help you get started editing. </p> <table style="width:100%; border-spacing:5px; vertical-align:top;"> <tbody><tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background-color:#858DA8; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid #CEF2E0; text-align:left; color:#FFFFFF; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Handouts</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Editing_Wikipedia_brochure_(Wiki_Education_Foundation).pdf" title="File:Editing Wikipedia brochure (Wiki Education Foundation).pdf">Editing Wikipedia</a>, a guide for student editors</li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Choosing_an_article.pdf" title="File:Choosing an article.pdf">Choosing an article to edit</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Illustrating_Wikipedia_brochure_(Wiki_Education_Foundation).pdf" title="File:Illustrating Wikipedia brochure (Wiki Education Foundation).pdf">Add images to articles</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Citing_your_sources.pdf" title="File:Citing your sources.pdf">Citing sources on Wikipedia</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <th><div style="margin: 0; background:#858DA8; font-family: sans-serif; font-size:120%; font-weight:bold; border:1px solid #CEF2E0; text-align:left; color:#FFFFFF; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;">Additional Resources</div> </th></tr> <tr> <td> <ul><li>You can find answers to many student questions in our <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/faq">FAQ</a>.</li></ul> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_(Wiki_Ed)" title="User:Ian (Wiki Ed)">Ian (Wiki Ed)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_(Wiki_Ed)" title="User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haitongzhang#c-Ian_(Wiki_Ed)-20241009162800-Welcome!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ian_(Wiki_Ed)-20241009162800-Welcome!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ian_(Wiki_Ed)-20241009162800-Welcome!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Choosing_an_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Choosing_an_article-20241013234500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Choosing_an_article-20241013234500"></span>Choosing an article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Choosing_an_article-20241013234500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Choosing an article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241013234500-Choosing_an_article"></span>I saw the article you chose over on <a href="/wiki/User:Haitongzhang/Choose_an_Article" title="User:Haitongzhang/Choose an Article">User:Haitongzhang/Choose an Article</a> and I saw on <a href="/wiki/User:Haitongzhang/Evaluate_an_Article" title="User:Haitongzhang/Evaluate an Article">User:Haitongzhang/Evaluate an Article</a> that you appear to be leaning toward work on <a href="/wiki/Mount_Emei" title="Mount Emei">Mount Emei</a> for the class. </p><p>As I mentioned in class, I'm going to asses your work on the Wikipedia assignment in terms of whether you can raise the quality of the article by one quality class on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_assessment" title="Wikipedia:Content assessment">Wikipedia's content assessment scale</a>. That means that it's really going to be easiest if you do as I suggested and choose a true stub article. My sense is that <a href="/wiki/Mount_Emei" title="Mount Emei">Mount Emei</a> is quite developed and it's going to be hard. I think <a href="/wiki/Samantabhadra_(Bodhisattva)" title="Samantabhadra (Bodhisattva)">Samantabhadra (Bodhisattva)</a> is a bit better, but also more developed than I'd really recommend. Of the three you suggested, <a href="/wiki/Twice-cooked_pork" title="Twice-cooked pork">twice-cooked pork</a> seems the easiest. </p><p>I do think that any of the three are possible, but it will simply be more work to improve the Start-class articles you've selected. I'm happy to talk more if that's helpful. —<b><a href="/wiki/User:Benjamin_Mako_Hill" title="User:Benjamin Mako Hill"><span style="color: #C40099">m</span><span style="color: #600099">a</span><span style="color: #2D0399">k</span><span style="color: #362365">o</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Benjamin_Mako_Hill" title="User talk:Benjamin Mako Hill"><span style="color: #000000">๛</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haitongzhang#c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241013234500-Choosing_an_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241013234500-Choosing_an_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241013234500-Choosing_an_article"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg-20241105103100"><span id="Problems_with_upload_of_File:.E5.8D.97.E9.AB.98logo.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg-20241105103100"></span>Problems with upload of File:南高logo.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg-20241105103100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Problems with upload of File:南高logo.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ImageTaggingBot-20241105103100-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg"></span>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:%E5%8D%97%E9%AB%98logo.jpg" title="File:南高logo.jpg">File:南高logo.jpg</a></b>. You don't seem to have said where the image came from, who created it, or what the copyright status is. We require this information to verify that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia, and because most image licenses require giving credit to the image's creator. </p><p>To add this information, click on <a href="/wiki/File:%E5%8D%97%E9%AB%98logo.jpg" title="File:南高logo.jpg">this link</a>, then click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page and add the information to the image's description. If you need help, post your question on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media copyright questions</a>. </p><p>For more information on using images, see the following pages: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy" title="Wikipedia:Image use policy">Wikipedia:Image use policy</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">Wikipedia:Image copyright tags</a></li></ul> <p>Thank you for your cooperation. --<a href="/wiki/User:ImageTaggingBot" title="User:ImageTaggingBot">ImageTaggingBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ImageTaggingBot" title="User talk:ImageTaggingBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haitongzhang#c-ImageTaggingBot-20241105103100-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ImageTaggingBot-20241105103100-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ImageTaggingBot-20241105103100-Problems_with_upload_of_File:南高logo.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_Draft" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_Draft-20241106013000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_Draft-20241106013000"></span>Your Draft<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_Draft-20241106013000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Your Draft"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241106013000-Your_Draft"></span>I looked over your draft at <a href="/wiki/User:Haitongzhang/Nanchong_Senior_High_School" title="User:Haitongzhang/Nanchong Senior High School">User:Haitongzhang/Nanchong Senior High School</a>. First of all, it's a ton of work! Congrats on that. </p><p>Two quick responses right off the bat: </p> <ol><li>I noticed that you created it in your sandbox, not in the live version of the article. Remember that the point of this assignment is to interact with the Wikipedia community so the priority should be to get this into the live version ASAP.</li> <li>My reaction to the text itself is that while it has as bunch of great information. It has some pretty big issues with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TONE">WP:TONE</a> and what Wikipedians call "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PUFFERY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PUFFERY">WP:PUFFERY</a>." Basically, it's all about #1 this, and top #100 that. It <i>sounds</i> (to me at least) like it's written by a person who is a fan or a booster of the organization, not by a neutral and disinterested person.</li> <li>I have some lingering questions about whether and how many of the references are to third-party reliable sources that are fully independent of the subject.</li></ol> <p>I would like you publish this on Wikipedia ASAP but I also think if you copy it in the current form, it might be deleted, mostly for the second issue. If you can, it would be good to find a little bit of time for the two of us to meet to talk through these issues and figure out how we're going to get this live on Wikipedia ASAP. —<b><a href="/wiki/User:Benjamin_Mako_Hill" title="User:Benjamin Mako Hill"><span style="color: #C40099">m</span><span style="color: #600099">a</span><span style="color: #2D0399">k</span><span style="color: #362365">o</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Benjamin_Mako_Hill" title="User talk:Benjamin Mako Hill"><span style="color: #000000">๛</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Haitongzhang#c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241106013000-Your_Draft" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241106013000-Your_Draft"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benjamin_Mako_Hill-20241106013000-Your_Draft"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Better_source_request_for_File:南高logo.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Better_source_request_for_File:南高logo.jpg-20241110142500"><span id="Better_source_request_for_File:.E5.8D.97.E9.AB.98logo.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Better_source_request_for_File:南高logo.jpg-20241110142500"></span>Better source request for <a href="/wiki/File:%E5%8D%97%E9%AB%98logo.jpg" title="File:南高logo.jpg">File:南高logo.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Better_source_request_for_File:南高logo.jpg-20241110142500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Haitongzhang&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Better source request for File:南高logo.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Salavat-20241110142500-Better_source_request_for_File:南高logo.jpg"></span>Thanks for your upload to Wikipedia: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:%E5%8D%97%E9%AB%98logo.jpg" title="File:南高logo.jpg">File:南高logo.jpg</a></li></ul> <p>You provided a source, but it is difficult for other users to examine the <a href="/wiki/Copyright" title="Copyright">copyright</a> status of the image because the source is incomplete or generic. Please consider clarifying the <i>exact</i> source so that the copyright status may be checked more easily. It is best to specify the exact source (such as the web page, or printed document) where you found the image, rather than only giving the source domain, search engine, pinboard, aggregator, or the direct/bare URL of the image file itself. Please update the image description with a URL that will be more helpful to other users in determining the copyright status. </p><p>If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source in a complete manner. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=upload&user=Haitongzhang">this link</a></span>. If you have any questions please ask them at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media copyright questions</a>. 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