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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Fractran-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran","c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran","c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran","c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran"],"text":"Fractran","linkableTitle":"Fractran"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran"></span>I must ask you to immediately stop revert my edits on the Fractran article and start discussion this subject instead. Please explain why you think that your version is correct and not mine. <a href="/wiki/User:TraxPlayer" title="User:TraxPlayer">TraxPlayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TraxPlayer" title="User talk:TraxPlayer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z","author":"TraxPlayer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-19T20:42:00.000Z-Fractran"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran"></span>You asked for comments on your edits so please have a look at this edit: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FRACTRAN&diff=next&oldid=395992843">[1]</a> </p><p>I have just discovered that the <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mfrac> <mn>1</mn> <mn>7</mn> </mfrac> </mstyle> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/afcab3a9c6842020657bf281789284c1a05b1ff8" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.338ex; width:1.658ex; height:3.676ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}"/></span> fraction was missing. Why did you comment that you reverted back to Conway version ? I strongly believe based that Conway version included the important <span class="mwe-math-element"><span class="mwe-math-mathml-inline mwe-math-mathml-a11y" style="display: none;"><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" alttext="{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}"> <semantics> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="true" scriptlevel="0"> <mrow class="MJX-TeXAtom-ORD"> <mstyle displaystyle="false" scriptlevel="0"> <mfrac> <mn>1</mn> <mn>7</mn> </mfrac> </mstyle> </mrow> </mstyle> </mrow> <annotation encoding="application/x-tex">{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}</annotation> </semantics> </math></span><img src="https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/afcab3a9c6842020657bf281789284c1a05b1ff8" class="mwe-math-fallback-image-inline mw-invert skin-invert" aria-hidden="true" style="vertical-align: -1.338ex; width:1.658ex; height:3.676ex;" alt="{\displaystyle {\tfrac {1}{7}}}"/></span>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:TraxPlayer" title="User:TraxPlayer">TraxPlayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TraxPlayer" title="User talk:TraxPlayer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z","author":"TraxPlayer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran","replies":["c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z-Fractran"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your comment. However, the sequence of 14 fractions given in Conway & Guy <i>The Book of Numbers</i> and in Havil <i>Nonplussed</i> does not include 1/7. We can't just change stuff because we think it is wrong - we have to stick to cited sources. I have removed 1/7 from the sequence in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Gandalf61" title="User:Gandalf61">Gandalf61</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61#top" title="User talk:Gandalf61">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z","author":"Gandalf61","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z-TraxPlayer-2015-09-30T20:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z"></span>Also note that the version given in Project Euler Problem 308 is different from the Conway & Guy and Havil version because it ends in 13/11, 15/2, 1/7, 55/1 instead of 13/11, 15/14, 15/2, 55/1. Probably achieves the same result, but the article should stick to cited sources, and published sources are more reliable than a web page. <a href="/wiki/User:Gandalf61" title="User:Gandalf61">Gandalf61</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61#top" title="User talk:Gandalf61">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 2 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Gandalf61","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T16:05:00.000Z-Gandalf61-2015-10-02T15:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran"></span>Hi, I found a primary source on the fractran program. Written solely by Conway. And it contains the 1/7 version.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Please see this page <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://static-content.springer.com/lookinside/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-1-4612-4808-8_2/000.png">[2]</a> from the book <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.springer.com/us/book/9781461291626%7COpen">Problems in Communication and Computation</a>. This book is from 1987 and contains the original paper by Conway. That must the best primary source. <i>The Book of Numbers</i> can't be primary source. I believe that Guy wrote most of the book including the Fractran part. What is your opinion on the picture from page 116 from Mrs. Roberts book? <a href="/wiki/User:TraxPlayer" title="User:TraxPlayer">TraxPlayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TraxPlayer" title="User talk:TraxPlayer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z","author":"TraxPlayer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T19:19:00.000Z-Fractran"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran"></span>And here the first page on the original Conway paper -</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre> <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:TraxPlayer" title="User:TraxPlayer">TraxPlayer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TraxPlayer" title="User talk:TraxPlayer">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TraxPlayer" title="Special:Contributions/TraxPlayer">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 4 October 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z","author":"TraxPlayer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TraxPlayer-2015-10-04T22:31:00.000Z-Fractran"></span> </pre> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information"],"text":"Deletion of Erd\u0151s number information","linkableTitle":"Deletion of Erd\u0151s number information"}--><h2 id="Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z"><span id="Deletion_of_Erd.C5.91s_number_information"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z"></span>Deletion of Erdős number information<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Deletion of Erdős number information"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information","timestamp":"2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information"],"text":"Deletion of Erd\u0151s number information","linkableTitle":"Deletion of Erd\u0151s number information"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information"></span>Hi! Thank you for all of your contributions! :) I noticed that some guy has been going around Wikipedia deleting Erdős number information, which I think is unjustifiable. I just reverted <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:David_J._C._MacKay#Erd.C5.91s_number_belongs_in_the_article">one such deletion, explaining why</a>. Your point of view on the matter would be greatly appreciated. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Kragen" title="User:Kragen">Kragen Javier Sitaker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kragen" title="User talk:Kragen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17#c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z","author":"Kragen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erd\u0151s_number_information","replies":[],"displayName":"Kragen Javier Sitaker"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kragen-2015-11-04T04:56:00.000Z-Deletion_of_Erdős_number_information"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"],"text":"ArbCom elections are now open!","linkableTitle":"ArbCom elections are now open!"}--><h2 id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">ArbCom elections are now open!</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gandalf61/Archive17&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: ArbCom elections are now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!","timestamp":"2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"],"text":"ArbCom elections are now open!","linkableTitle":"ArbCom elections are now open!"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T08:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span>Hi,<br/> You appear to be eligible to vote in the current <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">Arbitration Committee election</a>. 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