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</div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Draft:Planète_Juniors-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2020_in_England" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2020_in_England"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">8</span> <span>2020 in England</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-2020_in_England-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Help" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.1</span> <span>Help</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Help-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk_Pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk_Pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.2</span> <span>Talk Pages</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Talk_Pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mobile_visual_editor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mobile_visual_editor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.3</span> <span>Mobile visual editor</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Mobile_visual_editor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Edit_Cards" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edit_Cards"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.3.1</span> <span>Edit Cards</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Edit_Cards-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Toolbar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-3"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Toolbar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.3.2</span> <span>Toolbar</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Toolbar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikimania" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikimania"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.4</span> <span>Wikimania</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Wikimania-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Looking_ahead" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Looking_ahead"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.5</span> <span>Looking ahead</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Looking_ahead-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Redirect_Chinazi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Redirect_Chinazi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Redirect Chinazi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Redirect_Chinazi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Thank you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PrabalKumar_Basu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PrabalKumar_Basu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>PrabalKumar Basu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-PrabalKumar_Basu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-43" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tech_News:_2019-43"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Tech News: 2019-43</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-43-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gamma_Theta_Phi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gamma_Theta_Phi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Gamma Theta Phi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Gamma_Theta_Phi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Oct 23: WikiWednesday Salon NYC</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Request on 16:16:51, 24 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by FeartheTurtle87</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SPI_sigs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SPI_sigs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>SPI sigs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SPI_sigs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 28</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-44" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tech_News:_2019-44"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>Tech News: 2019-44</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-44-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Request on 21:50:52, 28 October 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by 2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phnom Penh Skyline</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_31_October_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 31 October 2019</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter – November 2019</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch999" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch999"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Request on 00:10:25, 4 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Mritch999</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch999-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-45" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tech_News:_2019-45"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Tech News: 2019-45</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-45-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mr_Miyagi_award" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mr_Miyagi_award"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Mr Miyagi award</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Mr_Miyagi_award-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Fifteenth anniversary on en-wp</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Music_printed_in_England_before_1660"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Music printed in England before 1660</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-46" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tech_News:_2019-46"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Tech News: 2019-46</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Tech_News:_2019-46-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryarane22" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryarane22"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Suryarane22</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryarane22-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lunagelo_Sockpuppet"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Lunagelo Sockpuppet</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-SPI_case" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#SPI_case"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>SPI case</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-SPI_case-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Manasi2k" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Manasi2k"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>Manasi2k</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Manasi2k-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esolizg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esolizg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Request on 15:25:56, 14 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Esolizg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esolizg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>Saturday Nov 16: Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-DRV" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#DRV"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>DRV</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-DRV-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Deletion review for John Iadarola</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> 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title="User talk:RoySmith/Archive 25">Archive 25</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_26" title="User talk:RoySmith/Archive 26">Archive 26</a></td><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 27</a></span></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_28" title="User talk:RoySmith/Archive 28">Archive 28</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_29" title="User talk:RoySmith/Archive 29">Archive 29</a></td><td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_30" title="User talk:RoySmith/Archive 30">Archive 30</a></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_beer_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_beer_for_you!-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"><span id="A_beer_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_beer_for_you!-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span>A beer for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_beer_for_you!-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/70px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png" decoding="async" width="70" height="109" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/105px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png/140px-Export_hell_seidel_steiner.png 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="777"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I thought your Chinazi close was spot-on (I had thought about changing my !vote to "endorse but redirect", since redirect was so obviously the right outcome), and the kind of bold-but-correct close that few attempt and even fewer nail. While I'm here, let me also say two things: (1) put me down as supporting promoting WP:THREE from a userspace essay to at least a mainspace essay if not an informational supplement or guideline of its own (though I understand you disagree and I understand your reasons, add me to the long list of people that think this essay should essentially be policy), and (2) I hope you seriously consider running for Arbcom this year. You have a rare combination of judgment, temperament, and experience that would make you an excellent addition to the committee. Happy editing! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">– <a href="/wiki/User:Levivich" title="User:Levivich">Leviv</a><span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levivich" title="User talk:Levivich">ich</a></span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 8 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z-A_beer_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the kind words and the beer. I'll have a pint of <a href="/wiki/Allagash_Brewing_Company" title="Allagash Brewing Company">Allagash White</a>, please. It's my current favorite. I have thought a bunch about running for arbcom, but I always think the same thing: why would I want to subject myself to that kind of abuse? I did <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight/2019_CUOS_appointments" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight/2019 CUOS appointments">toss my hat in the ring for CU</a>, which doesn't seem to be going well. As for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:THREE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THREE">WP:THREE</a>, at least for the moment, I'm indulging myself with a dose of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWNERSHIP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWNERSHIP">WP:OWNERSHIP</a> which I can only justify in my userspace. My fear is if I put it in WP space, it would get pecked to death. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 8 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z-Levivich-2019-10-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Levivich-2019-10-09T04:41:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z"></span>It seems to me to be going well, those were some great answers. If it'll help, I can go do some logged out editing and you can block me? <abbr title="Awesome face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/18px-718smiley.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/27px-718smiley.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/718smiley.svg/36px-718smiley.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="733" data-file-height="733"/></span></span></abbr> <span style="white-space:nowrap;">– <a href="/wiki/User:Levivich" title="User:Levivich">Leviv</a><span style="display:inline-block;position:relative;transform:rotate(45deg);bottom:-.57em;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Levivich" title="User talk:Levivich">ich</a></span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Levivich-2019-10-09T04:41:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Levivich-2019-10-09T04:41:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Levivich-2019-10-09T04:41:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-08T21:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"><span id="Draft:_El_C.C3.B3dice_Maya_de_M.C3.A9xico_.28The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Draft: El Códice Maya de México (The Maya Codex of Mexico)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)"></span>In response to editor's [<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Códice_Maya_de_México&oldid=920416897%7Coriginal">note</a>]. <a href="/wiki/Maya_codices" title="Maya codices">The Maya Codices wikipedia page</a> contains general information about all known Maya codices that are outdated or inaccurate within its discussion of Códice Maya de México (CMM), previously called the Grolier Codex. Although there is a section dedicated to the "Grolier Codex" within the Maya Codices wiki page, its language and stance concerning its authenticity have not been sufficiently updated. Considering that there does exist another wikipedia page dedicated to the <a href="/wiki/Grolier_Codex" class="mw-redirect" title="Grolier Codex">Grolier Codex</a> (now renamed El Códice Maya de México, or The Maya Codex of Mexico, by the Mexican government) it is crucial that a new page that adds the latest updates on the subject matter be presented. The reason for such an assertion is that the Grolier Codex wiki page contains arguments rendered null by the Mexican scientific studies proving without a reasonable doubt the authenticity of the CMM; however, that page does serve well in documenting the various arguments involved throughout the decades since Michael D. Coe first published a small-scale facsimile of the CMM in 1973. Another aspect that sets this draft apart from the other major pages mentioned above is the updated list of references which shall lead all interested readers to sources presenting the latest results on research dedicated to the study of the CMM. Of course, because most of these materials are written in Spanish, part of this article's objectives were designed to provide English speaking and reading audiences with broad but accurate summary of these researchers' findings.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GenxM&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GenxM (page does not exist)">GenxM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenxM" title="User talk:GenxM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z-Draft:_El_Códice_Maya_de_México_(The_Maya_Codex_of_Mexico)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-09T20:23:00.000Z-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GenxM&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GenxM (page does not exist)">GenxM</a>:</span> thanks for your note. I'll reply directly on the draft with a comment there. Best to keep the conversation in one place. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-09T20:23:00.000Z-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-09T20:23:00.000Z-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-09T20:23:00.000Z-GenxM-2019-10-09T18:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_re:deletions/redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_re:deletions/redirects-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"><span id="Question_re:deletions.2Fredirects"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_re:deletions/redirects-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Question re:deletions/redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_re:deletions/redirects-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z-Question_re:deletions/redirects"></span>Thanks for clearing my proposed deletion/redirect of article <a href="/wiki/Bwark_Productions" class="mw-redirect" title="Bwark Productions">Bwark Productions</a> lately. You mentioned that my AfD proposal of this page was not really necessary. What would you suggest as the ideal procedure for going about deleting/redirecting insubstantial, slightly pointless articles like said example? I did read WP:BOLD but would rather get some kind of consensus behind removing content outright in any case. <a href="/wiki/User:Hamptonian92" title="User:Hamptonian92">Hamptonian92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hamptonian92" title="User talk:Hamptonian92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z-Question_re:deletions/redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 10 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z-Question_re:deletions/redirects"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z-Question_re:deletions/redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-10T16:12:00.000Z-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hamptonian92" title="User:Hamptonian92">Hamptonian92</a>:</span> Hi, and thanks for your note. The answer to your question is a little complicated, partly because of a confusion over terminology.</dd></dl> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Bwark_Productions" class="mw-redirect" title="Bwark Productions">Bwark Productions</a> isn't actually deleted. The full history is still there, visible to anybody who knows to look for it. If you click on <a href="/wiki/Bwark_Productions" class="mw-redirect" title="Bwark Productions">Bwark Productions</a>, it will take you to <a href="/wiki/The_Inbetweeners" title="The Inbetweeners">The Inbetweeners</a>, but also notice up near the top, just under the page title, it also says, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">(Redirected from Bwark Productions)</q>. If you click on <i>that</i> link, it'll take you to <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bwark_Productions&redirect=no">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bwark_Productions&redirect=no</a>, where the extra "redirect=no" means, <i>Don't execute the redirect, show me the original underlying page</i>. From there, if you click on the "View history" link at the top, you can see the full history of the page, like it was before the redirect.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Creating that redirect is something anybody, including yourself, could have done. The next question is, would other people have objected to that? Maybe, but if they did, they could have just undone it just as easily. We call this the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle" title="Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle">WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle</a>. Because it's so easy to undo something like this, we make it simple for people to just go ahead and experiment. This openness sometimes leads to abuse (i.e. vandalism) but on the whole, it works pretty well.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As an alternative to just redirecting out the blue, you might have also started a conversation on the article's talk page saying, "I think this should be redirected to xxx, does anybody mind?" If people agree, or even if after a few days, nobody says anything either way, just go ahead and do it.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>On the other hand, if you really wanted to delete the entry completely, as in erase its history so it can't be seen by regular users, that's something that requires the special permissions granted to admins. To do that, you need to go through the AfD process like you did. People discuss it for a week, and if there's agreement to delete it, then an admin (like myself) comes along and deletes the history.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It's possible to delete the history <i>and</i> also create a redirect at the same time, but we generally don't do that unless there's some good reason why the old content can't continue to exist on the system, such as copyright violations or libelous statements about somebody. Those situations are rare.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Anyway, you didn't do anything wrong. There's just a range of possible processes that might have been used in your case and I was pointing out a simpler one that you might have chosen. It's really no big deal. Hope that helps. Please feel free to ask if anything still doesn't make sense. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-10T16:12:00.000Z-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 10 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-10T16:12:00.000Z-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-10T16:12:00.000Z-Hamptonian92-2019-10-10T15:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_brownie_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_brownie_for_you!-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z"><span id="A_brownie_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_brownie_for_you!-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z"></span>A brownie for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_brownie_for_you!-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-THX1136-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z-A_brownie_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Brownie_transparent.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Brownie_transparent.png/120px-Brownie_transparent.png" decoding="async" width="120" height="92" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Brownie_transparent.png/180px-Brownie_transparent.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Brownie_transparent.png/240px-Brownie_transparent.png 2x" data-file-width="294" data-file-height="226"/></a></span> </td> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thanks for the review of my revised draft for IGL Studios! <a href="/wiki/User:THX1136" title="User:THX1136">THX1136</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:THX1136" title="User talk:THX1136">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-THX1136-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z-A_brownie_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-THX1136-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z-A_brownie_for_you!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-THX1136-2019-10-11T18:09:00.000Z-A_brownie_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2019-42" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2019-42"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2019-42"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/42" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/42">Tech News: 2019-42</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2019-42"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. 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NOTE: Once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. --<a href="/wiki/User:MifterBot" title="User:MifterBot">MifterBot</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MifterBot" title="User talk:MifterBot">Talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MifterBot" title="Special:Contributions/MifterBot">Contribs</a> • <a href="/wiki/User:Mifter" title="User:Mifter">Owner</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Mifter-2019-10-16T01:00:00.000Z-Unspecified_source/license_for_File:CU_Class_of_2020.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mifter-2019-10-16T01:00:00.000Z-Unspecified_source/license_for_File:CU_Class_of_2020.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mifter-2019-10-16T01:00:00.000Z-Unspecified_source/license_for_File:CU_Class_of_2020.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Planète_Juniors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Planète_Juniors-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"><span id="Draft:Plan.C3.A8te_Juniors"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Planète_Juniors-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Plan%C3%A8te_Juniors&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Planète Juniors (page does not exist)">Draft:Planète Juniors</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Planète_Juniors-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z-Draft:Planète_Juniors"></span>I've added all sources about this channel. Why it always be declined ? </p><p>If you can improve this article, do it. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:41.92.37.104&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:41.92.37.104 (page does not exist)">41.92.37.104</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:41.92.37.104#top" title="User talk:41.92.37.104">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/41.92.37.104" title="Special:Contributions/41.92.37.104">contribs</a>) 15:13, 15 October 2019 (UTC)</small> / <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:41.92.101.62&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:41.92.101.62 (page does not exist)">41.92.101.62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:41.92.101.62#top" title="User talk:41.92.101.62">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/41.92.101.62" title="Special:Contributions/41.92.101.62">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z-Draft:Planète_Juniors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 15 October 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z-Draft:Planète_Juniors"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z-Draft:Planète_Juniors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheSandDoctor-2019-10-16T15:23:00.000Z-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"></span>Hello 41.92.37.104/41.92.101.62, I may not be RoySmith, but I can probably answer this for you. At current, the sourcing within the draft is not sufficient to demonstrate <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BROADCAST" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BROADCAST">notability</a> and the draft is largely unsourced (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ILC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ILC">inline</a> or otherwise). Notability has to be demonstrated by the inclusion of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INDEPENDENT">independent</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable</a> sources which "back up" the information written in the draft/article. This draft is currently being considered for deletion due to the number of times that it has been resubmitted without any improvement. This is called <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing" title="Wikipedia:Tendentious editing">tendentious editing</a> and is not good. Declined drafts should <i>only</i> be resubmitted once improvements have been made, which you think reasonably addresses the concerns that have been raised by reviewers. Doing otherwise can lead to deletion as it becomes a burden for reviewers. At this point, it is best to wait for the discussion to run its course. If the draft is deleted, then please do not recreate it. If it is kept, then please make improvements to it and do not resubmit without consulting (talking) to another editor about it (you can certainly reach out to me <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheSandDoctor" title="User talk:TheSandDoctor">here</a> in that case if you wish).</dd> <dd>Lastly, I wanted to address your comment that <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">"If you can improve this article, do it."</span> That is partially the idea - that editors work together to improve articles/drafts and increase their quality - but the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BURDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BURDEN">burden/responsibility</a> of sourcing the material that is added to an article or draft lies with the editor who adds the material in the first place/originally. --<a href="/wiki/User:TheSandDoctor" title="User:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">The</span><span style="color:#009933; font-weight:bold;">SandDoctor</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheSandDoctor" title="User talk:TheSandDoctor"><span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-TheSandDoctor-2019-10-16T15:23:00.000Z-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a> <span style="font-size:smaller;">(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)<span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheSandDoctor-2019-10-16T15:23:00.000Z-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheSandDoctor-2019-10-16T15:23:00.000Z-41.92.37.104-2019-10-15T15:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2020_in_England" data-mw-thread-id="h-2020_in_England-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2020_in_England-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"></span>2020 in England<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2020_in_England-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z-2020_in_England"></span>Should <a href="/wiki/2020_in_England" title="2020 in England">2020 in England</a> be class=draft, or perhaps something else?--<a href="/wiki/User:Dthomsen8" title="User:Dthomsen8">Dthomsen8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dthomsen8" title="User talk:Dthomsen8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z-2020_in_England" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z-2020_in_England"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z-2020_in_England"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"></span>It got promoted from draft to mainspace, so clearly class=draft doesn't apply anymore. I'm really not an expert at the rating system, so the best advice I can give is that you should go ahead and rate them. You might want to ask at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Content_assessment" title="Wikipedia talk:Content assessment">Wikipedia talk:Content assessment</a> for more specific advice than I'm able to give. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for the very prompt reply. I am assessing all the ENGLAND articles, using the Rater tool at <a href="/wiki/User:Evad37/rater" title="User:Evad37/rater">User:Evad37/rater</a>, which I commend to your attention. I rated 2020 in England as class=stub.--<a href="/wiki/User:Dthomsen8" title="User:Dthomsen8">Dthomsen8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dthomsen8" title="User talk:Dthomsen8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:48:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Sounds good. Thanks for the pointer to the rater tool. I've never used it, but pretty much everything Evad37 does is good stuff. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:48:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 16 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:48:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-16T21:48:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-10-16T21:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"><span id="Editing_News_.232_.E2.80.93_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_.E2.80.93_October_2019"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span>Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><em><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Newsletter/2019/October" class="extiw" title="m:VisualEditor/Newsletter/2019/October">Read this in another language</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Newsletter" class="extiw" title="m:VisualEditor/Newsletter">Subscription list for this multilingual newsletter</a></em> </p><p>Inside this newsletter, the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing" class="extiw" title="mw:Editing">Editing team</a> talks about their work on the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_visual_editor" class="extiw" title="mw:Mobile visual editor">mobile visual editor</a>, on <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project">the new talk pages project</a>, and at <a href="https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="wikimania:">Wikimania 2019</a>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span>Help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span></h3></div> <p><b>What talk page interactions do you remember?</b> Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it! </p><p>Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. <mark>Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the <b><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:V8d91yh8gcg404dj" class="extiw" title="mw:Topic:V8d91yh8gcg404dj">talk page for this project</a></b>.</mark> The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Talk_Pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk_Pages-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk_Pages-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span>Talk Pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk_Pages-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span></h3></div> <p>The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019">Talk Pages Consultation</a> was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_consultation_2019/Phase_2_report" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages consultation 2019/Phase 2 report">Phase 2 Report</a> of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project">Talk Page Project project page</a>. </p><p>The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project#Getting_involved" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project"><b>"Getting involved"</b></a> section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Mobile_visual_editor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mobile_visual_editor-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mobile_visual_editor-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span>Mobile visual editor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mobile_visual_editor-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span></h3></div> <p>The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile">visual editor on mobile</a>. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor_on_mobile" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk:VisualEditor on mobile">Talk:VisualEditor on mobile</a>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Edit_Cards" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_Cards-Mobile_visual_editor"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_Cards-Mobile_visual_editor"></span><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Edit_cards" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Edit cards">Edit Cards</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_Cards-Mobile_visual_editor"></span></h4></div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png/486px-Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png" decoding="async" width="486" height="385" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png/729px-Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Edit_Cards-before-v3-comparison.png 2x" data-file-width="956" data-file-height="758"/></a><figcaption>What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.</figcaption></figure> <ul><li>On 3 September, the Editing team released <a href="/wiki/File:Edit_Cards_comparison_v2_and_v3.png" title="File:Edit Cards comparison v2 and v3.png">version 3 of Edit Cards</a>. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.</li> <li>There is an <a href="/wiki/File:Edit_Cards_comparison_v2_and_v3.png" title="File:Edit Cards comparison v2 and v3.png">updated design</a> on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Edit_cards#2_September_2019_-_v3_deployment_timing" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Edit cards">combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target</a>.</li> <li>Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:V5rg0cqmikpubmjj" class="extiw" title="mw:Topic:V5rg0cqmikpubmjj">Edit cards talk page</a>.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Toolbar" data-mw-thread-id="h-Toolbar-Mobile_visual_editor"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Toolbar-Mobile_visual_editor"></span><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Toolbar_refresh" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Toolbar refresh">Toolbar</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Toolbar-Mobile_visual_editor"></span></h4></div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Toolbar-comparison-v1.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Toolbar-comparison-v1.png/486px-Toolbar-comparison-v1.png" decoding="async" width="486" height="246" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Toolbar-comparison-v1.png/729px-Toolbar-comparison-v1.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Toolbar-comparison-v1.png 2x" data-file-width="938" data-file-height="474"/></a><figcaption>The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:V79x6zm8n6i4nb56" class="extiw" title="mw:Topic:V79x6zm8n6i4nb56">Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar</a>.</figcaption></figure> <ul><li>In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor. <ul><li><em>One toolbar:</em> All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.</li> <li><em>New navigation:</em> The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.</li> <li><em>Seamless switching:</em> an <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228159" class="extiw" title="phab:T228159">improved workflow</a> for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.</li></ul></li> <li>Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:V79x6zm8n6i4nb56" class="extiw" title="mw:Topic:V79x6zm8n6i4nb56">Toolbar feedback talk page</a>.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Wikimania" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikimania-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikimania-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span>Wikimania<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikimania-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019"></span></h3></div> <p>The Editing Team attended <a href="https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Program" class="extiw" title="wmania:2019:Program">Wikimania 2019</a> in Sweden. They led a session on <a href="https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Community_Growth/Visual_editing_on_mobile:_An_accessible_editor_for_all" class="extiw" title="wmania:2019:Community Growth/Visual editing on mobile: An accessible editor for all">the mobile visual editor</a> and a session on <a href="https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Community_Growth/After_Flow:_A_new_direction_for_improving_talk_pages" class="extiw" title="wmania:2019:Community Growth/After Flow: A new direction for improving talk pages">the new talk pages project</a>. They tested <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Toolbar_refresh#v1_prototype" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Toolbar refresh">two</a> new <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Edit_cards#v3_prototype" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Edit cards">features</a> in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile#Wikimania_Stockholm:_Overview" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile">the team's report on Wikimania 2019</a>. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Looking_ahead" data-mw-thread-id="h-Looking_ahead-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looking_ahead-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span>Looking ahead<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looking_ahead-Editing_News_#2_–_Mobile_editing_and_talk_pages_–_October_2019-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Whatamidoing_(WMF)-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z-Looking_ahead"></span>Talk Pages Project</b>: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project#Getting_involved" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project"><b>Getting involved</b></a>.</li> <li><b>Testing the mobile visual editor as the default</b>: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/VE_mobile_default" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/VE mobile default"><b>VisualEditor as mobile default project page</b></a>.</li> <li><b>Measuring the impact of Edit Cards</b>: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor_on_mobile/Edit_cards" class="extiw" title="mw:VisualEditor on mobile/Edit cards"><b>Edit Cards project page</b></a>.</li></ul> <p>– <a href="/wiki/User:PPelberg_(WMF)" title="User:PPelberg (WMF)">PPelberg (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:PPelberg_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User talk:PPelberg (WMF)">talk</a>) & <a href="/wiki/User:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" title="User:Whatamidoing (WMF)">Whatamidoing (WMF)</a> (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)" class="extiw" title="mw:User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Whatamidoing_(WMF)-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z-Looking_ahead" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Whatamidoing_(WMF)-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z-Looking_ahead"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Whatamidoing_(WMF)-2019-10-17T16:51:00.000Z-Looking_ahead"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirect_Chinazi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirect_Chinazi-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirect_Chinazi-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span>Redirect <a href="/wiki/Chinazi" class="mw-redirect" title="Chinazi">Chinazi</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirect_Chinazi-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z-Redirect_Chinazi"></span>Could you please redirect <a href="/wiki/Chinazi" class="mw-redirect" title="Chinazi">Chinazi</a> to <a href="/wiki/Tactics_and_methods_surrounding_the_2019_Hong_Kong_protests#Chinazi" class="mw-redirect" title="Tactics and methods surrounding the 2019 Hong Kong protests">Tactics and methods surrounding the 2019 Hong Kong protests#Chinazi</a>? It is because I added a section "Chinazi" and it is about Chinazi this term. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:SCP-2000" title="User:SCP-2000">SCP-2000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SCP-2000" title="User talk:SCP-2000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z-Redirect_Chinazi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 17 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z-Redirect_Chinazi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z-Redirect_Chinazi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-17T21:47:00.000Z-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span>Done. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-17T21:47:00.000Z-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 17 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-17T21:47:00.000Z-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-17T21:47:00.000Z-SCP-2000-2019-10-17T09:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span>I missed them before but if you look at their talk page December 2018, and April 2019 both indicate this has happened recently. <a href="/wiki/User:Gleeanon409" title="User:Gleeanon409">Gleeanon409</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gleeanon409" title="User talk:Gleeanon409">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-18T15:20:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"></span>I assume you're talking about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Djtechno95" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Djtechno95">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Djtechno95</a>. I actually hadn't noticed the warnings on the IP's talk page, but no matter. Now they've been warned in both places, so if it happens again, there won't be any doubt that it's intentional and they'll get blocked. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-18T15:20:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-18T15:20:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-18T15:20:00.000Z-Gleeanon409-2019-10-18T14:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PrabalKumar_Basu" data-mw-thread-id="h-PrabalKumar_Basu-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PrabalKumar_Basu-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=PrabalKumar_Basu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="PrabalKumar Basu (page does not exist)">PrabalKumar Basu</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-PrabalKumar_Basu-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z-PrabalKumar_Basu"></span>I just wanted to let you know that the editor has reverted your move, and put the article back into the mainspace. <span style="font:Century Gothic; font-weight: bold;"><a href="/wiki/User:CodeLyoko" title="User:CodeLyoko"><span style="color:#FFA500">CodeLyoko</span></a></span><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CodeLyoko" title="User talk:CodeLyoko">buzz</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z-PrabalKumar_Basu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z-PrabalKumar_Basu"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z-PrabalKumar_Basu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-19T16:20:00.000Z-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"></span>Sigh. I'll handle it, thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-19T16:20:00.000Z-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 19 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-19T16:20:00.000Z-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-19T16:20:00.000Z-CodeLyoko-2019-10-19T16:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2019-43" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2019-43"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2019-43"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43">Tech News: 2019-43</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2019-43"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43">Translations</a> are available. </p><p><b>Recent changes</b> </p> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe."><img alt="Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe." src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/15px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/23px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> The <a href="/wiki/Application_programming_interface" class="mw-redirect" title="Application programming interface">API</a> sandbox and help pages now show more clearly when API modules are marked as <code>internal</code>. API modules marked as internal were probably internal before. It was easier to miss. You should look for non-internal alternatives. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185508">[3]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Problems</b> </p> <ul><li>There is a <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Translate" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Translate">translation tool</a> we use on wikis with more than one language. For a few days it did not create pages for new languages when someone translated a page. The languages did not show in the language bar. This has been fixed. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235027">[4]</a></li> <li>The history and diffs can show wrong content. This is because of a cache problem. It will soon be fixed. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235188">[5]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Changes later this week</b> </p> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"><img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> The <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.35/wmf.3" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.3">new version</a> of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 October. It will be on all wikis from 24 October (<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.34/Roadmap" class="extiw" title="mw:MediaWiki 1.34/Roadmap">calendar</a>).</li> <li><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ReferencePreviews" class="extiw" title="m:WMDE Technical Wishes/ReferencePreviews">Reference Previews</a> will be a beta feature on <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235083" class="extiw" title="phab:T235083">all Wikipedias and some Wikivoyages</a>. It shows you a preview of the footnote when you hover over or click on the number. It has been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April.</li></ul> <p><b>Meetings</b> </p> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"><img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Advanced item"><img alt="Advanced item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/15px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/23px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20191023T15">23 October</a>. See <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting" class="extiw" title="mw:Technical Advice IRC Meeting">how to join</a>.</li></ul> <p><i><b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Tech news</a></b> prepared by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers">Tech News writers</a> and posted by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery">bot</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Contribute</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/43">Translate</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Tech">Get help</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Tech/News">Give feedback</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors">Subscribe or unsubscribe</a>.</i> </p> </div></div><p> 14:39, 21 October 2019 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gamma_Theta_Phi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gamma_Theta_Phi-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gamma_Theta_Phi-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Gamma Theta Phi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gamma_Theta_Phi-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span>Can you please restore <a href="/w/index.php?title=Gamma_Theta_Phi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gamma Theta Phi (page does not exist)">Gamma Theta Phi</a>. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.66.61.218" title="Special:Contributions/75.66.61.218">75.66.61.218</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.66.61.218#top" title="User talk:75.66.61.218">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:11:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gamma_Theta_Phi" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamma Theta Phi">the AfD</a> was unanimous to delete it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:11:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:11:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:11:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T21:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span>May I ask why? I belonged to this fraternity that existed a several catholic colleges. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.66.61.218" title="Special:Contributions/75.66.61.218">75.66.61.218</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.66.61.218#top" title="User talk:75.66.61.218">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z-Gamma_Theta_Phi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:45:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z"></span>What we need is good sources that are talking about the organization. The applicable guideline is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORG">WP:NORG</a>. In a nutshell, <i>A ... organization ... is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.</i> The article that was deleted had no references, and people at the AfD said they did their own searching and couldn't find any either. If you want, I can restore this as a draft, where you can continue to work on it. But, please understand, for this to get accepted back into mainspace, you'll need to find sources sufficient to meet the requirements set down in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NORG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NORG">WP:NORG</a>. I'm not optimistic you'll be able to do that, but you can try if you want. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:45:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:45:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-21T22:45:00.000Z-75.66.61.218-2019-10-21T22:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC"></span>Oct 23: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/October_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/October 2019">WikiWednesday Salon NYC</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Oct_23:_WikiWednesday_Salon_NYC"></span></h2></div> <table style="background:#d5dceb; border:1px solid #6881b9; margin:0.5em; padding:0.5em;border-radius: 8px;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" style="font-size:150%; padding: .4em;">October 23rd, 7pm: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/October_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/October 2019">WikiWednesday Salon NYC</a> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: .6em;"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg/200px-Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="206" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg/300px-Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg/400px-Wikimedia_New_York_City_logo.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="460" data-file-height="474"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>You are invited to join the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/About" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/About">Wikimedia NYC</a> community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening <a href="/wiki/Salon_(gathering)" title="Salon (gathering)">salon</a> (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at <a href="/wiki/Metropolitan_New_York_Library_Council" title="Metropolitan New York Library Council">Metropolitan New York Library Council</a> in Midtown Manhattan. 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Bring your friends and colleagues! --<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC">Wikimedia New York City Team</a> 05:33, 22 October 2019 (UTC) </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p><small>(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite_list" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list">this list</a>.)</small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"><span id="Request_on_16:16:51.2C_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"></span>Request on 16:16:51, 24 October 2019 for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">AfC</a> submission by FeartheTurtle87<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="16:16:51,_24_October_2019_review_of_submission_by_FeartheTurtle87"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FeartheTurtle87&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FeartheTurtle87 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe"></span>FeartheTurtle87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FeartheTurtle87" title="User talk:FeartheTurtle87">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/FeartheTurtle87" title="Special:Contributions/FeartheTurtle87">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kenneth_J._Collins&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Kenneth J. Collins (page does not exist)">Draft:Kenneth J. Collins</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kenneth_J._Collins&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:Kenneth_J._Collins&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:Kenneth J. Collins (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kenneth_J._Collins&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:Kenneth_J._Collins">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kenneth_J._Collins&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3AKenneth+J.+Collins">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> Hello Roy, </p><p>Thank you for your feedback in relation to the Kenneth J. Collins page that I have been working on. I am sorry that the page did not have enough secondary sources befitting a wikipedia page and have been working to increase secondary sources for Kenneth J. Collins. </p><p>My question to you is this: Do I need to cite the secondary sources within the body of the page or simply have them included somewhere on the page? I know that the text can be adjusted to accommodate for more sources/citations. However, the list that I have is more extensive than what was previously provided. </p><p>My whole reason for seeking to create a Kenneth J. Collins page is to acknowledge him as a Methodist theologian, to which I compared many of those listed under Methodist theologians with what I created for him. </p><p>Thank you for your help in this. </p><p>Andy Newman </p><p><br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:FeartheTurtle87&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:FeartheTurtle87 (page does not exist)">FeartheTurtle87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FeartheTurtle87" title="User talk:FeartheTurtle87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z-Request_on_16:16:51,_24_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Fearthe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-24T16:59:00.000Z-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure what you mean by, "My whole reason for seeking to create a Kenneth J. Collins page is to acknowledge him as a Methodist theologian"? Do you have some connection with the subject? -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-24T16:59:00.000Z-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 24 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-24T16:59:00.000Z-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-24T16:59:00.000Z-FeartheTurtle87-2019-10-24T16:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPI_sigs" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_sigs-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_sigs-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"></span>SPI sigs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_sigs-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z-SPI_sigs"></span>Just a heads up that I've seen a couple of edits on SPIs where your sig has been missing today, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Geronikolakis/Archive#26_October_2019" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Geronikolakis/Archive">1</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/KaranSharma0445/Archive#26_October_2019" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KaranSharma0445/Archive">2</a>. I don't know if the SPI tool is barfing, or you're editing manually and expecting a sig to appear as if you were using the tool, but I thought I should let you know. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z-SPI_sigs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 26 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z-SPI_sigs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z-SPI_sigs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-26T17:57:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, I'll be alert for that in the future. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-26T17:57:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 26 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-26T17:57:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-26T17:57:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-10-26T15:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28-2019-10-28T07:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28-2019-10-28T07:38:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for October 28<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28-2019-10-28T07:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2019-10-28T07:38:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_28"></span>Hi. 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Would you please review it again and hopefully give a green light? <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Water_Wall_Turbine">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Water_Wall_Turbine</a> Thank you </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760" title="Special:Contributions/2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760">2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z-Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z-Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z-Request_on_21:50:52,_28_October_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_2604:3D"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Please don't remove prior review comments. I've restored the old comments; they should remain until such time as the draft is accepted. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z-2604:3D08:5A7F:35B1:CCAE:2EB1:855B:760-2019-10-28T21:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T23:07:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z"></span>I took a quick look. I don't see any substantial improvements. I'll leave it for somebody else to review the next time. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T23:07:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T23:07:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-10-28T23:07:00.000Z-RoySmith-2019-10-28T21:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"><span id="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations.2FPhnom_Penh_Skyline"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phnom Penh Skyline">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Phnom Penh Skyline</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline"></span>My apologies RoySmith (and <a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a>) - I didn't see that another editor had already logged an SPI. <a href="/wiki/User:Onel5969" title="User:Onel5969"><b><span style="color:#536895;">Onel</span><span style="color:#ffb300;">5969</span></b></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Onel5969" title="User talk:Onel5969"><i style="color:blue">TT me</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Phnom_Penh_Skyline"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-2019-10-30T15:55:00.000Z-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span>Hardly necessary to apologize; it happens.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Bbb23-2019-10-30T15:55:00.000Z-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 30 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-2019-10-30T15:55:00.000Z-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-2019-10-30T15:55:00.000Z-Onel5969-2019-10-30T15:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_31_October_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 31 October 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="-moz-column-count:2; 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Tor users doing good work; harmful content rare on English Wikipedia</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Essay: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-10-31/Essay" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-10-31/Essay">Wikipedia is in the real world</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News from the WMF: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-10-31/News_from_the_WMF" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-10-31/News from the WMF">Welcome to Wikipedia! Here's what we're doing to help you stick around</a></li></ul> <ul><li>On the bright side: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-10-31/On_the_bright_side" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2019-10-31/On the bright side">What's making you happy this month?</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2019-10-31" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2019-10-31">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 31 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-10-31T16:12:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_31_October_2019"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z"><span id="Administrators.27_newsletter_.E2.80.93_November_2019"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z"></span>Administrators' newsletter – November 2019<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019"></span>News and updates for administrators</a> from the past month (October 2019). </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1216972533">.mw-parser-output .col-begin{border-collapse:collapse;padding:0;color:inherit;width:100%;border:0;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .col-begin-small{font-size:90%}.mw-parser-output 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Admin_mop.PNG/40px-Admin_mop.PNG 2x" data-file-width="117" data-file-height="118"/></a></span> <b>Administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/GermanJoe" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/GermanJoe">GermanJoe</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Girth_Summit" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Girth Summit">Girth Summit</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Kees08" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kees08">Kees08</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Nosebagbear" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/919861454#Request_for_reinstatement_(DESiegel)" title="Special:PermanentLink/919861454">DESiegel</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921872334#Request_return_of_admin_rights_(GB_fan)" title="Special:PermanentLink/921872334">GB fan</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/919199766#Request_(MSGJ)" title="Special:PermanentLink/919199766">MSGJ</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/923035617#Resysop_request_-_Voice_of_Clam" title="Special:PermanentLink/923035617">Voice of Clam</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/919437002#Permissions_(WilyD)" title="Special:PermanentLink/919437002">WilyD</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/922182705#Desysop_(DeltaQuad)" title="Special:PermanentLink/922182705">DeltaQuad</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#October_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/918944073">Fang Aili </a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#October_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/918944073">Pakaran</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/20px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/30px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg/40px-Wikipedia_bureaucrat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span> <b>Bureaucrat changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/19479808#DeltaQuad@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Permalink/19479808">DeltaQuad</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/918944073#Wikipedia:Inactive_administrators/2019#October_2019" title="Special:PermanentLink/918944073">Pakaran</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/20px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/30px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg/40px-Wikipedia_Interface_administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="467"/></a></span> <b>Interface administrator changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/919199766#Request_(MSGJ)" title="Special:PermanentLink/919199766">MSGJ</a></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> </td> <td class="col-break col-break-2"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a 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data-file-height="110"/></a></span> <b>CheckUser changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">L235</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">Mz7</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">SQL</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">ST47</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Readded"><img alt="readded" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">Ivanvector</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/19479808#DeltaQuad@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Permalink/19479808">DeltaQuad</a></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Oversight_logo.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/20px-Oversight_logo.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/30px-Oversight_logo.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Oversight_logo.png/40px-Oversight_logo.png 2x" data-file-width="1058" data-file-height="1058"/></a></span> <b>Oversight changes</b> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-add.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Added"><img alt="added" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Gnome-colors-list-add.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-add.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">L235</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">Mz7</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">ST47</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740"> Stwalkerster</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">The Blade of the Northern Lights</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/921215740#2019_CheckUser_and_Oversight_appointments:_Candidates_appointed" title="Special:PermanentLink/921215740">Xaosflux</a></dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Removed"><img alt="removed" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/20px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/30px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg/40px-Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/19479808#DeltaQuad@en.wikipedia" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Permalink/19479808">DeltaQuad</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/922419021#Changes_to_functionary_team" title="Special:PermanentLink/922419021">DGG</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/19426858#Julia_W@enwiki" class="extiw" title="meta:Special:Permalink/19426858">Julia W</a></dd></dl> <p> </p> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Green_check.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/20px-Green_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/30px-Green_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Green_check.svg/40px-Green_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" 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margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><small>Sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 3 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019"></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-03T21:15:00.000Z-Administrators'_newsletter_–_November_2019"></span></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch999" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"><span id="Request_on_00:10:25.2C_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch999"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"></span>Request on 00:10:25, 4 November 2019 for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">AfC</a> submission by Mritch999<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="00:10:25,_4_November_2019_review_of_submission_by_Mritch999"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Mritch999" title="User:Mritch999"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9"></span>Mritch999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mritch999" title="User talk:Mritch999">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mritch999" title="Special:Contributions/Mritch999">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/User:Mritch999" title="User:Mritch999">User:Mritch999</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mritch999&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mritch999" title="User talk:Mritch999">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mritch999&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Mritch999">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mritch999&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AMritch999">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> </p><p>Please help me fix my badly formatted sources and also my photos taken from newspapers. According to the newspapers, there is no copyright on them. Also there is no COI. I’m not related to him nor was he a friend. I took a class from him in college. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Mritch999" title="User:Mritch999">Mritch999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mritch999" title="User talk:Mritch999">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z-Request_on_00:10:25,_4_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Mritch9"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-04T13:37:00.000Z-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"></span>I don't know why you brought up COI, but since you did, yes, being a student of the subject is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> and needs to be declared. Readers can decide for themselves how that will affect their evaluation of the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-04T13:37:00.000Z-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-04T13:37:00.000Z-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-04T13:37:00.000Z-Mritch999-2019-11-04T00:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2019-45" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2019-45"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2019-45"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/45" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/45">Tech News: 2019-45</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2019-45"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. 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The wise and honorable Mr Miyagi award. <a href="/wiki/User:Lightburst" title="User:Lightburst">Lightburst</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lightburst" title="User talk:Lightburst">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Lightburst-2019-11-07T00:52:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lightburst-2019-11-07T00:52:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lightburst-2019-11-07T00:52:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-07T01:44:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award"></span>Not sure what I did to deserve this, but thanks! -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-07T01:44:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-07T01:44:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-07T01:44:00.000Z-Mr_Miyagi_award"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z"></span>Fifteenth anniversary on en-wp<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox standard-talk" style="border: 2px dashed #FF0000; background-color: gold;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="text-align:center;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Balloons-aj.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/50px-Balloons-aj.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="55" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/75px-Balloons-aj.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Balloons-aj.svg/100px-Balloons-aj.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1100" data-file-height="1200"/></a></span> </td> <td style="text-align:center;" width="100%"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; color:darkblue">Hey, <b>RoySmith</b>. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Wikipedia Birthday Committee</a>!<br/>Have a great day!</span> <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;"><a href="/wiki/User:Chris_troutman" title="User:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_troutman" title="User talk:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">talk</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:32:00.000Z-Fifteenth_anniversary_on_en-wp"></span> </td> <td style="text-align:right;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Face-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/55px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="55" height="55" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/83px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/110px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fifteen_Year_Society" title="Wikipedia:Fifteen Year Society"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/125px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="102" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/188px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/250px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="375" data-file-height="305"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Dear RoySmith/Archive 27, </p><p>I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fifteen_Year_Society" title="Wikipedia:Fifteen Year Society">Fifteen Year Society</a></b>, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. </p><p>Best regards, <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;"><a href="/wiki/User:Chris_troutman" title="User:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_troutman" title="User talk:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">talk</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-07T14:34:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_First_Edit_Day!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_First_Edit_Day.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z"></span>Happy First Edit Day!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_kate.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="39" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Nuvola_apps_kate.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_kate.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="481" data-file-height="373"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%;">Happy First Edit Day!</span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Have a very happy first edit anniversary! </p><p>From the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BDAYCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BDAYCOM">Birthday Committee</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU"><span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;"><b>CAPTAIN RAJU</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User talk:CAPTAIN RAJU">(T)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2019-11-07T17:37:00.000Z-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Music_printed_in_England_before_1660" data-mw-thread-id="h-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z"></span>Music printed in England before 1660<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660"></span>Should <a href="/wiki/Music_printed_in_England_before_1660" title="Music printed in England before 1660">Music printed in England before 1660</a> be class=draft or class=list or perhaps something else?--<a href="/wiki/User:Dthomsen8" title="User:Dthomsen8">Dthomsen8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dthomsen8" title="User talk:Dthomsen8">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z-Music_printed_in_England_before_1660"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-Mobile-2019-11-07T21:08:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z"></span>I'm afraid article ratings are not my area of expertise. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith-Mobile" title="User:RoySmith-Mobile">RoySmith-Mobile</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith-Mobile" title="User talk:RoySmith-Mobile">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-Mobile-2019-11-07T21:08:00.000Z-Dthomsen8-2019-11-07T20:14:00.000Z" 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This has been done under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#C1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a <a href="/wiki/Category:Disambiguation_categories" title="Category:Disambiguation categories">disambiguation category</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_soft_redirected_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories">category redirect</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_featured_topics_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia featured topics categories">featured topics category</a>, under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories for discussion</a>, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. </p><p>If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may <b>contest the nomination</b> by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryarane22&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Suryarane22 (page does not exist)">visiting the page</a> and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". 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Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies" title="Wikipedia:List of policies">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UnitedStatesian" title="User talk:UnitedStatesian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-UnitedStatesian-2019-11-12T16:34:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UnitedStatesian-2019-11-12T16:34:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryar"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UnitedStatesian-2019-11-12T16:34:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Suryar"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lunagelo_Sockpuppet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"></span>Lunagelo Sockpuppet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet"></span>I ask, if possible, to block my account.--<a href="/wiki/User:Luooda" title="User:Luooda">Luooda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luooda" title="User talk:Luooda">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 12 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z-Lunagelo_Sockpuppet"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-12T22:52:00.000Z-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"></span>Done. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-12T22:52:00.000Z-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:52, 12 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-12T22:52:00.000Z-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-12T22:52:00.000Z-Luooda-2019-11-12T21:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z"></span>A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kbrown_(WMF)-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process"></span>Hello! </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to improve the community consultation outreach process for Foundation policies, and we are interested in why you didn't participate <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Office_actions/Community_consultation_on_partial_and_temporary_office_actions/09_2019" class="extiw" title="m:Office actions/Community consultation on partial and temporary office actions/09 2019">in a recent consultation</a> that followed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRAM">a community discussion</a> you’ve been part of. </p><p>Please fill out <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfWWUofC6-DmmNK0s7TBRd522YujyKWbixJflILnZQ6UYgveQ/viewform">this short survey</a> to help us improve our community consultation process for the future. It should only take about three minutes. </p><p>The privacy policy for this survey is <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation_in_Partial/Temporary_Office_Actions_consultation_2019">here</a>. This survey is a one-off request from us related to this unique topic. </p><p>Thank you for your participation, <a href="/wiki/User:Kbrown_(WMF)" title="User:Kbrown (WMF)">Kbrown (WMF)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Kbrown_(WMF)-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kbrown_(WMF)-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kbrown_(WMF)-2019-11-13T10:45:00.000Z-A_survey_to_improve_the_community_consultation_outreach_process"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SPI_case" data-mw-thread-id="h-SPI_case-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SPI_case-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"></span>SPI case<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SPI_case-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z-SPI_case"></span>Hi RoySmith, hope all is well. I saw that you closed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jborges10" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jborges10">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jborges10</a> and warned the two editors. It looks like Mannycoca3 <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALuK3&type=revision&diff=925997268&oldid=925992887">blanked my talk page</a>. I'm keeping an eye on them but I just wanted to put it on your radar as well. Thanks! -- <b><a href="/wiki/User:LuK3" title="User:LuK3"><span style="color:#DC143C"><span style="font-family:Verdana">LuK3</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:LuK3" title="User talk:LuK3"><span style="color:#000080"><span style="font-family:Verdana">(Talk)</span></span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z-SPI_case" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z-SPI_case"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z-SPI_case"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T17:05:00.000Z-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"></span>Sigh. I was just in the process of blocking them for vandalism but it looks like <a href="/wiki/User:ST47" title="User:ST47">ST47</a> got there quicker. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T17:05:00.000Z-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T17:05:00.000Z-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T17:05:00.000Z-LuK3-2019-11-13T17:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Manasi2k" data-mw-thread-id="h-Manasi2k-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Manasi2k-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Manasi2k<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Manasi2k-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z-Manasi2k"></span>You closed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Manasi2k" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Manasi2k">Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Manasi2k</a> for a lack of evidence (despite the sock creating more evidence between my filing and your closing). "moreinfo" would have been a more appropriate status than "close". Hope that helps, <a href="/wiki/User:Cabayi" title="User:Cabayi">Cabayi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cabayi" title="User talk:Cabayi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z-Manasi2k" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z-Manasi2k"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z-Manasi2k"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T20:22:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"></span>Looks like they've already been blocked by another admin. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T20:22:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T20:22:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-13T20:22:00.000Z-Cabayi-2019-11-13T20:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esolizg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z"><span id="Request_on_15:25:56.2C_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esolizg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z"></span>Request on 15:25:56, 14 November 2019 for assistance on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation" title="Wikipedia:Articles for creation">AfC</a> submission by Esolizg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="anchor" id="15:25:56,_14_November_2019_review_of_submission_by_Esolizg"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Esolizg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Esolizg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Esolizg-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span>Esolizg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Esolizg" title="User talk:Esolizg">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Esolizg" title="Special:Contributions/Esolizg">contribs</a>) <ul><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li> <li><span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx"><a href="/wiki/Draft:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:BANCO ECONÓMICO">Draft:BANCO ECONÓMICO</a> <span style="font-size:90%;">(<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO&action=edit">edit</a> | <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft talk:BANCO ECONÓMICO (page does not exist)">talk</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO&action=history">history</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Draft:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO">links</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:BANCO_ECON%C3%93MICO&action=watch">watch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Draft%3ABANCO+ECON%C3%93MICO">logs</a>)</span></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><br/> Dear Sr, </p><p>I will be waiting for 9 weeks, please review the article. </p><p>Regards, </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Esolizg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Esolizg (page does not exist)">Esolizg</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Esolizg" title="User talk:Esolizg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Esolizg-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Esolizg-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Esolizg-2019-11-14T15:25:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-14T15:41:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Esolizg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Esolizg (page does not exist)">Esolizg</a>:</span> unfortunately, the review queue is quite long. You just need to be patient. -- <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-RoySmith-2019-11-14T15:41:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:41, 14 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-2019-11-14T15:41:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-2019-11-14T15:41:00.000Z-Request_on_15:25:56,_14_November_2019_for_assistance_on_AfC_submission_by_Esoliz"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art" data-mw-thread-id="h-Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art"><span id="Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_.40_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art"></span>Saturday Nov 16: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth 2019">Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Saturday_Nov_16:_Wikipedia_Asian_Month_Edit-a-thon_@_Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art"></span></h2></div> <table style="background:#d5dceb; border:1px solid #6881b9; margin:0.5em; padding:0.5em;border-radius: 8px;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="2" style="font-size:150%; padding: .4em;">Saturday November 16, 12:30 pm - 4:30pm: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth 2019">Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon</a> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: .6em;"> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG/200px-Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG" decoding="async" width="200" height="168" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG/300px-Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG/400px-Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art_entrance_NYC.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1812" data-file-height="1519"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg/200px-Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg" decoding="async" width="200" height="267" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg/300px-Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg/400px-Damascus_Room_MET_DP240367.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2898" data-file-height="3870"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>The <b>Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met</b> will be hosted at the <a href="/wiki/Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art" title="Metropolitan Museum of Art">Metropolitan Museum of Art</a> on <b>Saturday November 16, 2019</b> in the Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Ruth and Harold D. Uris Center for Education (81st Street entrance) at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City. </p><p>The museum is excited to work with <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2019" class="extiw" title="meta:Wikipedia Asian Month 2019">Wikipedia Asian Month</a> for the potential to seed new articles about Asian artworks, artwork types, and art traditions, from any part of <a href="/wiki/Asia" title="Asia">Asia</a>. These can be illustrated with thousands of its recently-released images of public domain artworks available for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse Asian collections onsite and remotely. Asia Art Archive will host a sister event in Hong Kong next week. </p> <ul><li>Saturday November 16 <b> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth 2019">Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth_2019#Sign_up" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/MetAsianMonth 2019">RSVP on-wiki</a> or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.meetup.com/WikimediaNYC/">at meetup.com</a>)</b>.</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><i>12:30 pm - 4:30 pm in Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Uris Center for Education</i> <dl><dd><i>81st Street entrance, <a href="/wiki/Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art" title="Metropolitan Museum of Art">Metropolitan Museum of Art</a>, 1000 Fifth Avenue</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> <big><b>And there will be sandwiches and Wiki-Cake!</b></big> </p><p>Thanks, and hope to see you there! --<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC">Wikimedia New York City Team</a> 16:46, 14 November 2019 (UTC) </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p><small>(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite_list" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list">this list</a>.)</small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DRV" data-mw-thread-id="h-DRV-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DRV-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z"></span>DRV<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DRV-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z-DRV"></span>Two folks (<b>including an admin</b>) have already endorsed the closure over DRV and pursuant to that, I have reverted your blatant out-of-process closure, resembling a super-vote. <a href="/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric"><span style="color: red">∯</span><span style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:#070">WBG</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric"><sup><span style="color:#00F">converse</span></sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z-DRV" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 15 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z-DRV"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-15T13:54:00.000Z-DRV"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z"></span>Deletion review for <a href="/wiki/John_Iadarola" title="John Iadarola">John Iadarola</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeekInParadise-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola"></span>An editor has asked for a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#John_Iadarola" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">deletion review</a> of <a href="/wiki/John_Iadarola" title="John Iadarola">John Iadarola</a>. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. <a href="/wiki/User:GeekInParadise" title="User:GeekInParadise">GeekInParadise</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeekInParadise" title="User talk:GeekInParadise">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith/Archive_27#c-GeekInParadise-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeekInParadise-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeekInParadise-2019-11-16T07:23:00.000Z-Deletion_review_for_John_Iadarola"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tech_News:_2019-47" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_News:_2019-47"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_News:_2019-47"></span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47">Tech News: 2019-47</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_News:_2019-47"></span></h2></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinks"> <p>Latest <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">tech news</a></b> from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47">Translations</a> are available. </p><p><b>Problems</b> </p> <ul><li>You will be able to read but not to edit some wikis for up to 30 minutes <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20191126T06">on 26 November at 06:00 (UTC)</a>. You can <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238046" class="extiw" title="phab:T238046">see which wikis</a>. It will probably last much shorter than 30 minutes. This will also affect the <code><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CentralAuth" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CentralAuth">centralauth</a></code> database. This could for example affect changing passwords, logging in to new wikis, changing emails or <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CentralAuth/Global_rename" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CentralAuth/Global rename">global renames</a>. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238046">[13]</a></li></ul> <p><b>Changes later this week</b> </p> <ul><li>You can soon vote on proposals for the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2020" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2020">Community Wishlist Survey</a>. The survey decides what the <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Community Tech">Community Tech team</a> will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2020#newformat" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist Survey 2020">read more</a> about the format for this year.</li> <li>There is no new MediaWiki version this week.</li></ul> <p><b>Meetings</b> </p> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Recurrent item"><img alt="Recurrent item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/12px-Octicons-sync.svg.png" decoding="async" width="12" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/18px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Octicons-sync.svg/24px-Octicons-sync.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="768" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="Advanced item"><img alt="Advanced item" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/15px-Octicons-tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/23px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Octicons-tools.svg/30px-Octicons-tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="1024"/></span></span> You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20191120T16">20 November at 16:00 (UTC)</a>. See <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting" class="extiw" title="mw:Technical Advice IRC Meeting">how to join</a>.</li></ul> <p><i><b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Tech news</a></b> prepared by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers">Tech News writers</a> and posted by <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery">bot</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News">Contribute</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2019/47">Translate</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech" class="extiw" title="m:Tech">Get help</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:Tech/News">Give feedback</a> • <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors" class="extiw" title="m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors">Subscribe or unsubscribe</a>.</i> </p> </div></div><p> 20:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2019 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox" style="border: 1px solid #AAA; background: ivory; padding: 0.5em; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:middle; padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></td><td>Hello! Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2019" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2019">2019 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019#Election_timeline" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2019">eligible users</a></b> are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. <p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda. </p> <ul><li>Wednesday November 20 <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/November_2019" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/November 2019">WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/November_2019#Sign_up" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/November 2019">optional RSVP on-wiki</a>)</b>.</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><i>7:00pm - 9:00 pm at <a href="/wiki/Metropolitan_New_York_Library_Council" title="Metropolitan New York Library Council">Metropolitan New York Library Council</a> (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan</i></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC">Wikimedia New York City Team</a> 16:16, 19 November 2019 (UTC) </p> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p><small>(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite_list" title="Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list">this list</a>.)</small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Really_Thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Really_Thanks-2019-11-25T16:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Really_Thanks-2019-11-25T16:44:00.000Z"></span>Really Thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Really_Thanks-2019-11-25T16:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edward_Zigma-2019-11-25T16:44:00.000Z-Really_Thanks"></span>I really miss good helpful people except some other like DBig and WittyHumor. But you really did a good help. 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