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You can also leave a note on [[Meta:Babel]] or [[Wikimedia Forum]] (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing! </div> </div> -- 22:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC) == You've got mail == Please check your email. --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font>]]</font> 19:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC) == Bylaws tweaks? == See the bottom of [[Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_board_manual#Votes_vs._resolutions.2C_quorum_and_required_majority]] - what do you think? <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">&ndash;[[User:Sj|SJ]]<small>&nbsp;[[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">talk</font>]]&nbsp;</small></span> 21:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC) : Thanks! I will review and reply on that page. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 14:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC) == Ping! == Can you review [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilegal#Must_we_forbid_paid_editing.3F this] or have it reviewed, please?--[[User:Elvey|Elvey]] ([[User talk:Elvey|talk]]) 22:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC) == [[PRISM]] == Dear Stephen, any update on an official reaction by WMF? We've been waiting since the 21st of June... Cheers, --[[User:Church of emacs|Tobias]] <small>[[User talk:Church of emacs|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Church of emacs|contrib]]</small> 14:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC) == wikipedia.org on LinkedIn == Hey Stephen. This is nothing urgent, but I just thought I would let you know that a marketing company has set up a fake "[http://www.linkedin.com/company/3074847 wikipedia.org]" company page on LinkedIn, if I am understanding things correctly. And they have themselves listed in "Services" for wikipedia.org. [[User:Dominic|Dominic]] ([[User talk:Dominic|talk]]) 18:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC) : Hello {{Ping|Dominic}} thanks for reporting this. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 00:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC) == Necessary and Proportionate == [[m:Talk:PRISM#We_should_sign_the_global_Principles_on_Surveillance_guidelines|A statement on surveillance]] we should consider signing. <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">&ndash;[[User:Sj|SJ]]<small>&nbsp;[[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">talk</font>]]&nbsp;</small></span> 01:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC) == [https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:DMCA Wikimediafoundation.org] == Hi, Slaporte (WMF), I was wondering if it is okay to add [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:DMCA this] link to the external links section on the [[:en:DMCA|Digital Millennium Copyright Act]] page. Thank you for your time. [[User:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[User talk:Lotje|talk]]) 10:49, 28 November 2013 (UTC) : Hello {{Ping|Lotje}} Yes, you may add a link. I see that there is already an external link to [http://www.chillingeffects.org/ Chilling Effects] -- we also submit our takedown notices there, too. Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 00:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC) ==Legalities== Hi! I see you made a posting [https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Ska_man_tvingas_erk.C3.A4nna_betald_redigering.3F here]. As you can see we are preparing a local voting on the issue. We will within a week or two give you the results of our voting. Our preliminary discussion at Bybrunnen has, however, resulted in a large majority ''against'' the proposal. All for now.--[[User:Paracel63|Paracel63]] ([[User talk:Paracel63|talk]]) 02:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC) : Hello [[User:Paracel63|Paracel63]], thanks for pointing me to the discussion on SV Wikipedia. Please let me know if there are any points I can help you clarify! You are also welcome to bring comments to the [[Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment|discussion page on Meta]] (in Swedish, English, or any other language). [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC) ::Thanks but no thanks as for now. I took a quick (that was my intention) look at the discussion, tried to wade through the differing opinions and fell asleep (true!) before I got to the end of the page. It would mean a full-time occupation for me trying to be involved in this, which I just cannot afford, neither have the time to. In due time you will get the results of our svwp voting, with clarified positions and arguments. Just one note: svwp is ''not'' the same as enwp; the 50 times less amount of editors mean we are in a quite different position. Best of wishes.--[[User:Paracel63|Paracel63]] ([[User talk:Paracel63|talk]]) 00:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC) :::It is indeed a long discussion, so I completely understand! I appreciate that you are coordinating the conversation with SVWP and keeping me informed. Thanks a lot! [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 01:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC) ::::Thanks for understanding. Me and at least one more svwp editor did cast a vote here and posted some comments. But this discussion page really looks like [[:en:Hyde Park|Hyde Park]] with a thousand and one [[:en:soapbox|soapboxes]], each one carrying a politician shouting. And most of the "[[:en:Speaker's Corner|speakers]]" seem to be shouting about this issue from different perspectives. I sincerely hope you can get some sort of useful result out of this. {{=)}}--[[User:Paracel63|Paracel63]] ([[User talk:Paracel63|talk]]) 01:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC) == Separate talk pages by language == Huge talk pages don't currently work for multilingual discussion. How about a separate talk page per language for the [http://wikipedia.org big language communities], which can then be transcluded onto one page for tracking? <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">&ndash;[[User:Sj|SJ]]<small>&nbsp;[[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">talk</font>]]&nbsp;</small></span> 09:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC) : Yes, we can create separate talk pages per language. The biggest difficulty for separate pages is keeping the conversations connected. We hoped that a single, multi-language page would encourage more interaction between languages, but this discussion has grown unusually large. The community advocacy team and a few others are helping us reach out beyond the English language community, and I am following the non-English discussions to the best of my ability (for example, the [[de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:WikiProjekt_Umgang_mit_bezahltem_Schreiben#Terms-of-Use-.C3.84nderung_zu_Paid_Editing|WikiProjekt Umgang mit bezahltem Schreiben discussion on DEWP]] and [[sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Ska_man_tvingas_erk.C3.A4nna_betald_redigering.3F|Wikipedia:Bybrunnen discussion on SVWP]]). Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 21:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC) :: Ok. Separate pages on the wikipedias in each language is also fine, though we should fix the meta system before too long. I've moved non-English sections up to the top of the talk page to give them visibility and coherence. Warmly, <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">&ndash;[[User:Sj|SJ]]<small>&nbsp;[[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">talk</font>]]&nbsp;</small></span> 21:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC) == groups from the Past == * [[Wikimedia affiliation models/User Groups]] * [[step-by-step user group creation guide|user group creation guide]] vs. [[Step-by-step thematic organization creation guide|thematic org creation guide]] (both created the same time) * [[Wikimedia affiliation models/Movement Partners|partners]] - simple recognition process. Be well, [[Special:Contributions/192.195.83.38|192.195.83.38]] 21:51, 25 April 2014 (UTC) == Terms of use == *Hello Slaporte(WMF). Can you advise what the situation is in respect to paid editing?[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment] [[User:Xxanthippe|Xxanthippe]] ([[User talk:Xxanthippe|talk]]) 00:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC). ** Hello [[User:Xxanthippe|Xxanthippe]], thank you for your patience. The amendment to the terms of use was [http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/06/16/change-terms-of-use-requirements-for-disclosure/ announced on the blog today]. Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 23:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC) ::::Excellent news. Best wishes. [[User:Xxanthippe|Xxanthippe]] ([[User talk:Xxanthippe|talk]]) 11:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC). == Standard disclaimers == I suspect you may have forgotten your standard "this is not legal advice" disclaimer in [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9074826&oldid=9069529&rcid=5401339]. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 19:38, 2 July 2014 (UTC) == Help == Hello Slaporte. Maybe you can help me [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment#Difference_between_employer_and_client here]. Thanks.--[[User:Rndmdf|Rndmdf]] ([[User talk:Rndmdf|talk]]) 10:17, 10 September 2014 (UTC) : I responded on that page. Thanks again! [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 16:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC) == WLM and iraqi FOP deletions == Hi Slaporte, so we have the first Wiki Loves Monuments campaign including Iraq in 2014, but unfortunately there are recurrent deletions of iraqi monument pics based on a questionable interpretation of a questionable 2004 copyright amendment by [[:en:Coalition Provisional Authority]] (= invading US military = Paul Bremer = actually RIAA lobby draft?!) Please read [//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Monument_to_the_unknown_soldier_%286966336236%29.jpg this] and agree with me that this is madness... (see [//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iraqi_FOP_cases that too]) Unbelievable stuff. --[[User:Atlasowa|Atlasowa]] ([[User talk:Atlasowa|talk]]) 12:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC) :See also [[:commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Bagdad_moschee01.jpg]] currently, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)]]. --[[User:Atlasowa|Atlasowa]] ([[User talk:Atlasowa|talk]]) 12:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC) == ‘Share A Fact’ feature == Hi Stephen! Dan Garry [[phab:T95092|named you]] as responsible for the legal aspects of the ‘Share A Fact’ feature of the Wikipedia Android app. As most of the free licenses used on Commons require an attribution, most pictures created by this feature are a copyright violation if shared without further notice. As far as I see, the users are not informed that they have to add additional information (author, source, license …) if they want to publish the image. Therefore I’m surprised that the Legal Team gave a ‘full legal signoff’. While the Wikimedia Foundation itself does not violate rights, the app encourages its users to do so. Could you please provide some more information why you think that this feature is alright? Thanks in advance! Regards, [[User:Ireas|Ireas]] ([[User talk:Ireas|talk]]) 23:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC) : Hi [[User:Ireas|Ireas]], thanks for the question. The "share-a-fact" feature provides two indicators of its legal status. First, it has the CC BY-SA icons in the lower left part of the card, which describes the license of the Wikipedia article that is the source of the card. Second, the app generates a URL for the article (as text that accompanies the image), so users can follow the URL to find the full license information for the photo or the text. Our goal is to provide a reasonable amount of accessible information within a small card, so that users can share and remix content as encouraged by Creative Commons and other free licenses. Just as a note, a photo is not necessarily a copyright violation just because it does not include a comprehensive legal notice. The best practice for Creative Commons attribution is to provide [https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Best_practices_for_attribution#Don.27t_make_it_too_complicated reasonable attribution for the medium]. In the future, I hope that a [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data better structured data system] on Wikimedia projects will enable even more creative ways of providing informative (but not overly intrusive) licensing information. Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 00:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::But in the exact same paragraph stands also "That being said, you still have to include attribution requirements somehow, even if it's just a link to an About page that has that info." if the pictures of the article change, it is just possible by searching the old versions of the article to even get to a link that provides the info of the licence of the picture, which also are not every time cc licences. I don't understand your decision.--[[User:CennoxX|CennoxX]] ([[User talk:CennoxX|talk]]) 04:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::: Thanks for your fast answer, Stephen! ::: I still doubt that a link to the Wikipedia article is an appropriate attribution. As CennoxX already pointed out, the picture can be removed from the page. And even if it’s available, you still have to find it – looking at your Strassbourg example, it’s not that obvious which picture was used. ::: You also have to consider that not all images are CC-by-sa. If the picture is realeased under the GFDL, the CC-by-sa tag is misleading and no appropriate attribution. ::: In conclusion, I fear that this feature – especially if brought to the desktop UI as proposed in [[phab:T94998]] – is a bad signal towards the photographers in the Wikimedia projects and is dangerous for reusers if the attribution is not changed. Imagine what will happen if a photographer sues someone who used the ‘Share A Fact’ feature. ::: In my opinon, the Wikimedia projects, the Wikimedia chapters and the Wikimedia Foundation should not operate at in the grey zone between correct and incorrect reuse. They should set an example how to correctly reuse free material, being an ideal for everyone else and promoting free licenses. [[User:Ireas|Ireas]] ([[User talk:Ireas|talk]]) 07:57, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::::+1 to Ireas. In addition to that I want to express that I am stunned that after having had quite the same discussion with the pre-alpha media viewer WMF once again does not show interest in licensing issues. With distressed regards, → [[User:Man77|'''««''']]&nbsp;Man77&nbsp;[[User talk:Man77|'''»»''']]&nbsp;<sup>[[:de:User:Man77|[de]]]</sup> 13:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::::+1 to Ireas. And another point: The deep of the problem increases when the created image is reused outside of the Twitter context. As standalone image w/o link to the article. [[User:Raymond|Raymond]] ([[User talk:Raymond|talk]]) 17:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::::+1 to Ireas. What you are practicing here [https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Best_practices_for_attribution#Don.27t_make_it_too_complicated is no reasonable manner] to attribute an image. In case of CC=BY-SA-4.0, if you provide a link, it should point directly to a page with all necessary information. See section 3 (a) 2. ''For example, it may be reasonable to satisfy the conditions by providing a URI or hyperlink to a resource that includes the required information.'' This means that in case of CC-BY-SA-4.0 one link is acceptable but not a series of links where it is not even obvious where the next link is to be found. In consequence, a link to an article is not sufficient, as it takes usually two further links until you will find the full information, provided you are still able to find the image in the article. The first link from the article leads you by default to the MediaViewer which is still not able to provide full copyright information ([https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coutances_Cathédrale_Notre-Dame_Vitrail_Baie_218_Lancette_gauche_5e_registre_-_la_Vierge_médiatrice_2014_08_25.jpg#/media/File:Coutances_Cathédrale_Notre-Dame_Vitrail_Baie_218_Lancette_gauche_5e_registre_-_la_Vierge_médiatrice_2014_08_25.jpg example in MediaViewer with incomplete information], [[:commons:File:Coutances Cathédrale Notre-Dame Vitrail Baie 218 Lancette gauche 5e registre - la Vierge médiatrice 2014 08 25.jpg|regular Commons file description with full information]]). Only the second link that leads to the corresponding file description at Wikimedia Commons provides the full information. All this gets worse whenever you have a different license like GFDL-1.2-only. --[[User:AFBorchert|AFBorchert]] ([[User talk:AFBorchert|talk]]) 21:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC) :::::+1 to all the above. I'm stunned that this is the official WMF position on how to correctly re-use content published under free licenses.--[[User:Cirdan|Cirdan]] ([[User talk:Cirdan|talk]]) 16:44, 6 April 2015 (UTC) ::::::+1 to all the above. --[[User:Geolina163|Geolina163]] ([[User talk:Geolina163|talk]]) 17:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC) ::::::+ to all the above as well. The next rushed, not well-thought-out move towards facebookisation of the Wikiverse by WMF against the current policies. [[User:Sänger|♫ Sänger]] - [[User talk:Sänger|Talk]] - [[Requests_for_comment/Superprotect_rights|superputsch must go]] 17:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC) :::::+1 // [[User:Martin Kraft|Martin Kraft]] ([[User talk:Martin Kraft|talk]]) 12:32, 9 April 2015 (UTC) :::::::I agree. This is a totally inappropriate one size fits all approach. I tested it (using one of my own Commons uploads to avoid breaching any license): from the email I sent myself to the attribution page I had to click three links. (Email -> article -> Media Viewer -> file page.) This clearly violates the terms of the CC-BY-SA-4 license I use and this is completely unacceptable. I cannot see any reasonable legal justification for the lack of attribution provided in this "feature". [[User:BethNaught|BethNaught]] ([[User talk:BethNaught|talk]]) 19:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC) : An other point made by [[User:Atlasowa|Atlasowa]] on [[:de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#Share_a_fact|dewiki]] is that back in 2012, you argued that [[Legal/CC-BY-SA on Facebook|sharing third party CC-by-sa content on Facebook]] is not allowed. Did things change since then? This would make the ‘Share A Fact’ feature even more problematic. [[User:Ireas|Ireas]] ([[User talk:Ireas|talk]]) 21:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC) :: Hi [[User:Ireas|Ireas]] and all, thanks for the feedback. I will review the topics in detail and discuss them with Dan Garry's team. Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 23:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC) ::: Thanks, Stephen! As a workaround, I’d suggest these changes depending on the picture’s license: :::; public domain :::* remove the misleading CC-by-sa icon :::; CC-0 :::* replace the CC-by-sa icon with the CC-0 icon :::; CC-by :::* replace the CC-by-sa icon with the CC-by icon :::* add the author’s name to the picture :::; CC-by-sa :::* add the author’s name to the picture :::* add the license name (e. g. CC-by-sa 3.0 DE or CC-by-sa 4.0) to the picture :::* add a link to the source file to the sharing message (Tweet/Facebook post/…) :::; other licenses :::* don’t use these pictures as a correct attribution is too complicated ::: This is no perfect solution, but in my opinion, it would really improve the copyright situation. (Of course, this only applies if the text snippet is below the threshold of originality.) Regards, [[User:Ireas|Ireas]] ([[User talk:Ireas|talk]]) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC) Hi Stephen, [https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms Facebook], [https://instagram.com/about/legal/terms/ Instagram] and [https://twitter.com/tos Twitter] require sub-licensing of content submitted to their services. Eventually there are more services with the same requirement. Given that these services are widely used, share a fact users are likely to use these platforms. Creative Commons licences, the most common type of licenses on Wikimedia Commons, usually prohibit sub-licensing. Noticing the statement about Facebook as mentioned above, I'm sure you and the legal team are well aware of the sub-licensing issue. I was wondering if this was taken into consideration before giving "full legal sign-off"? It seems to me like there's a rather slim chance for share a fact users to comply with license requirements and terms of services. I'd appreciate your comment on this issue. Regards, [[User:Christoph Braun|Christoph Braun]] ([[User talk:Christoph Braun|talk]]) 14:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC) Hi Stephen, could you give us an idea of your time plan for reviewieng the app in regard to copyright and for responding to our concerns? --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 21:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC) :Hello Folks, Stephen is working on a legal note, and I am working on starting a some discussions on the broader issue of attributions in media sharing outside our projects. More links will follow this week. Thanks --[[User:Melamrawy (WMF)|Melamrawy (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Melamrawy (WMF)|talk]]) 22:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC) ::{{ping|Melamrawy (WMF)}} Good to hear. I would like to add that I share the concerns brought up here, ''especially'' over the sub-licensing issue. It's not just about the attribution, but - as Stephen himself posted at [[Legal/CC-BY-SA on Facebook]] - the main issue seems to be that you just '''can't''' legally post CC-BY-SA content that a third party produced on Facebook (and probably other popular services), as Facebook requires you grant them "a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook"; a thing one isn't able to do for third-party CC-BY-SA content. As I see it, that's nothing Wikimedia or Creative Commons can change - unless you manage to convince Facebook that they change their licensing terms ;-) [[User:Gestumblindi|Gestumblindi]] ([[User talk:Gestumblindi|talk]]) 19:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC) ::Good to hear indeed, looking forward to both the legal note and the discussion about attribution in media sharing (there has been much discussion about this in the past years, eg in Bugzilla − happy to give pointers if needed). Please keep up updated :) Thanks, [[User:Jean-Frédéric|Jean-Fred]] ([[User talk:Jean-Frédéric|talk]]) 21:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC) :::So, this should expand [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_apps/features/Share_A_Fact here] Stephen and myself will add more info very shortly (please, ..please excuse the delay, this is my bad!), then this will expand a bit more to cover further similar discussions. Meanwhile, please feel free to add questions, comments, pointers there. Thank you! --[[User:Melamrawy (WMF)|Melamrawy (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Melamrawy (WMF)|talk]]) 23:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC) ::::As part of the explanation, can someone please say why the lessons from the Media Viewer debacle regarding new features which fail to comply with licensing terms were not apparently learned? [[User:BethNaught|BethNaught]] ([[User talk:BethNaught|talk]]) 19:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC) :::::+1. And it wasn't just the MediaViewer but also the mobile imageviewer that had the same discussion last year ([https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71656 T71656 Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer]), plus a mail by Erik Moeller to the mobile team on how to not repeat this in the future: [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-September/007958.html]. And yet here we are, having the same discussion all over again, with the same charming "we have signoff from legal, forget it, case closed"-attitude. [[File:Share-a-Fact example german.jpg|thumbnail|"share-a-fact" from Wikipedia mobile with wikidata description in small print]] :::::BTW, if the mobile team really believes what they are saying, "we have not enough space for attribution", then i propose to drop the useless "wikidata description" that they have added to the cards. Those "wikidata descriptions" are not patrolled at wikidata and are vandalized a lot and are therefor controversial too (see [[:d:Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2015/01#Wikipedia app and Wikidata vandalism]] and [[:d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2015/02#Patrollers?]] and [[:d:Wikidata:Project chat#It's so much worse]] etc.) --[[User:Atlasowa|Atlasowa]] ([[User talk:Atlasowa|talk]]) 17:59, 21 April 2015 (UTC) :::::: +1. Sad but true. [[User:Yellowcard|Yellowcard]] ([[User talk:Yellowcard|talk]]) 19:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC) @[[User:Melamrawy (WMF)|Melamrawy (WMF)]]: There really was not a more remote place than some completly [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikimedia_apps/features/Share_A_Fact unlinked] MediaWiki subpage for further discussions? Where else did you invite contributors to join this discussion? When will a responsible WMF employee respond in detail to our concerns? --[[User:Martina Nolte|Martina Nolte]] ([[User talk:Martina Nolte|talk]]) 18:30, 21 April 2015 (UTC) Hi all, thanks for your thoughts and suggestions! I have posted more details at [[MediaWikiWiki:Wikimedia apps/features/Share A Fact|Wikimedia apps/features/Share A Fact]], and I will respond to questions copied there on the talk page. Best, [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 23:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC) == feedback on policy site == Hi,please see my comment at [[Talk:Public policy]]. [[User:Matanya|Matanya]] ([[User talk:Matanya|talk]]) 18:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC) : Thanks! [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 06:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC) == Interwiki for "policy" == Hi Stephen. I have added to the interwiki map to have the domain <code>policy</code> apply to <nowiki>https://policy.wikimedia.org/$1</nowiki> which should allow for neater and more convenient linking to work that you do for/from the wikis. I will see if I can find a tech dude to push the update through so that it can appear in [[Special:Interwiki]] sooner, rather in the course of events. [I don't think that the interwiki map works from the blog, however, that is a guess rather than fact, and you probably have more access to the knowledge base of people than I do.] &nbsp;— [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC) :{{status|done}} [[policy:copyright]] {{smiley}} &nbsp;— [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 01:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC) :: Awesome, thanks! [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 06:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC) ==Hello Stephen!== I have just read a message about the new policy website of the foundation. I think it is going to drive Wikipedia into an even more political position and I don't want that. I am an encyclopedia writer, not your militant. Can you consider resigning? [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|talk]]) 03:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC) :If you have a concern about the policy choices or the fact that the WMF is doing any policy at all then I encourage you to discuss the substance of that here, on [[Talk:Public_policy]] or somewhere else that makes sense. However ad hominem attacks such as sarcastically suggesting that someone consider resigning, especially this early on in the discussion, are neither constructive nor necessary and seems engineered to anger and insult rather then help to make things better. I would recommend that neither Stephen, nor anyone else, respond to this thread unless you're willing to alter your approach and discuss the content. [[User:Jalexander-WMF|Jalexander]]--[[:w:Wikimedia Foundation|WMF]] 17:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC) :Sadly enough, we are not early in a discussion. We are after an action, for the website is there, online, and already claiming that those behind Wikipedia are fighting governments and such things. Stephen is responsible for this website and so for the breach the website creates in neutrality. It is my responsibility to ask for him resigning. He is young and probably talented. He will find a better job where he will not have to betray those who worked for free for an ideal of neutrality for ten years. I know it won't stop the initiative but at least Stephen and me will both be happier. [[User:Thierry Caro|Thierry Caro]] ([[User talk:Thierry Caro|talk]]) 22:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC) == '05 == Thanks for catching that old pair of edits. Delightful! <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">&ndash;[[User:Sj|SJ]]<small>&nbsp;[[User Talk:Sj|<font style="color:#f90;">talk</font>]]&nbsp;</small></span> 17:45, 27 June 2016 (UTC) == PGP key == Hi Stephen! Is <code>06A6 EF5E 19B5 A825 42AD 9243 B676 76D9 17CF 5CE5</code> your current PGP key for your wikimedia.org email address? I'd like to send you something. Mine, <code>6C93 1191 2E9A 86F5 51E7 5092 5A45 9CBA 4070 0C47</code>. Best regards from WMES, --<span style="font-size:95%;">[[User:Abián|abi]][[User talk:Abián|án]]</span> 21:35, 12 December 2016 (UTC) : Yes, <code>06A6 EF5E 19B5 ...</code> is my PGP key. [[User:Slaporte (WMF)|Stephen LaPorte (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Slaporte (WMF)|talk]]) 21:05, 15 December 2016 (UTC) == Legal/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline == Do you happen to know if the [[Legal/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline|WMF Policy and Political Association Guideline]] is still in effect? --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] ([[User talk:Yair rand|talk]]) 21:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC) == question related to the US copyright status of the artwork with Non-U.S. copyrights == Dear User Slaporte, different opinions related to the US copyright status of the image uploaded to Commons originated in f-USSR. If cannot find consensus, could we ask you to take a look? If not who is the right contact? Thanks,--[[User:Armenius vambery|Armenius vambery]] ([[User talk:Armenius vambery|talk]]) 14:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC) == Input == sought over [[en:Wikipedia:Edit_filter_noticeboard#Open_mailing_list_to_edit_filter_helpers?]]. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|Winged Blades of Godric]] ([[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|talk]]) 15:16, 21 November 2019 (UTC) == Important mail getting into junk/spam folder == Dear Stephen LaPorte, I have sent an e-mail to your (at)wikimedia.org address, but I think it ended up in junk/spam folder. Can you please check your junk/spam mail folders for messages from email address starting with "whistleintheair"? Warm regards, whistleintheair == Open Letter to the Board of Trustees concerning the Arbitration Committee of German Wikipedia == Dear Stephen LaPorte, I would like to inform you about my [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_German_Wikipedia Open Letter to the Board of Trustees concerning the Arbitration Committee of German Wikipedia]. 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