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id="c-Soibangla-20240714091300-Newsmax_Newsmax_Newsmax"></span>I look forward to you berating me about that for the rest of my life. </p><p>it was dumb of me, ok? happy now? <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240714091300-Newsmax_Newsmax_Newsmax" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240714091300-Newsmax_Newsmax_Newsmax"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714091300","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240714091300-Newsmax_Newsmax_Newsmax","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240714091300-Newsmax_Newsmax_Newsmax"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300"></span>I point it out, because that is the only actually relevant sourcing that exists anywhere at all to <i>contradict</i> the massive amount of RS that describes Trump as being shot. What's the theory here? A glass bottle dropped from a plane got in between the bullet and Trump, slicing up his ear with fragments? <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714091600","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300","replies":["c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600-Soibangla-20240714091300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600"></span>reporting doesn't have to contradict it</dd> <dd>if the man was <b>shot</b>, they would <i>say</i> he was shot <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714091900","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240714091900-KiharaNoukan-20240714091600"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20240714-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-trump-shooting-was-an-attempted-assassination-fbi-says"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900"></span>Well</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-rally-incident/card/fbi-seeks-to-confirm-trump-shooter-with-dna-and-photos-4zR6j3J4MEboq18yJSk5">we</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98qnvn8dzeo">have</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-shot-rally-shooting-video-b2579405.html">plenty</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/13/politics/trump-injured-pennsylvania-rally/index.html">of</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/13/donald-trump-shot-gunman-what-we-know/74396996007/">RS</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.axios.com/2024/07/14/trump-rally-shooting-oversight-comer-secret-service">that</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/14/trump-doing-well-after-being-shot-in-right-ear-at-pennsylvania-rally">do</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-shooting-raises-questions-about-security-lapses-2024-07-14/">in</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/jul/13/trump-rally-gun-shots-pennsylvania-latest-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-669378028f08c5bdd9f260f7#block-669378028f08c5bdd9f260f7">fact</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/07/14/donald-trump-shooting-rally-latest-news-pennsylvania/">say</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/trump-shooting-latest-bloodied-trump-shouts-fight-as-hes-rushed-off-stage-secret-service-release-statement-13177655">it</a>, in their own words. Some people say the same thing in different ways, that doesn't indicate a dispute with reporting by everyone from BBC to Axios. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714092500","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900","replies":["c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500-Soibangla-20240714091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500"></span>I just showed you that more don't than do, regardless of your corrections. <i>we need to err on the conservative</i> <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714093000","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240714093000-KiharaNoukan-20240714092500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000"></span>I haven't gotten around to fact checking your entire list, I've already found that both <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98qnvn8dzeo">BBC</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-rally-incident/card/fbi-seeks-to-confirm-trump-shooter-with-dna-and-photos-4zR6j3J4MEboq18yJSk5">WSJ</a> report Trump was shot, despite your claims otherwise. But guess what, they also simultaneously report Trump was injured too! It's almost as if RS do not believe that being shot and being injured are in any way mutually exclusive. You're trying to create a dispute with what multiple RS have reported, that does not exist. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714093300","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000","replies":["c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300-Soibangla-20240714093000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300"></span>more don't than do. I am done here. <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714093600","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240714093600-KiharaNoukan-20240714093300"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Talk:Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump#sources_that_report_he_was_shot" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Attempted assassination of Donald Trump"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600"></span>No.</a> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1234434249">You do not</a>. Many of the sources you reference, without linking, do in fact say that Trump was shot. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714100000","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000-Soibangla-20240714093600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">Soibangla</a></dd> <dd>Regarding <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1234552216">your offer</a>, you can donate to <s>the shooting victims via the official <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4771666-trump-campaign-gofundme-for-rally-shooting-victims-raises-more-than-2-million/">gofundme</a> (hyperlink is in the article)</s> United24, given effective altruism and what I've learned about the proclivities of a certain attendee. Let me know what you have in mind for your end. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240714233800","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800","c-Soibangla-20240718105800-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800-KiharaNoukan-20240714100000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">Soibangla</a></dd> <dd>Do we accept <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/">Snopes</a> as an arbiter of your offer? If not, let me know what we can rely on. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240718013400","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800","replies":["c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400","c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400","c-Soibangla-20240718083500-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800"></span> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"></span>clarify</i>. haha.</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>July 17, 2024: This report was updated to add additional documentation of no broken teleprompters and to clarify language Snopes previously used describing a photo showing "a bullet striking Trump."<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bullet-glass-trump-wound/">[1]</a></p></blockquote> <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240718060300","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240718060300-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"></span>Snopes:</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>there is photographic evidence of a bullet striking Trump<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://archive.ph/HGZmV#selection-885.8-885.65">[2]</a></p></blockquote></dd> <dd><b>there most certainly is not</b>. hahaha! <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240718073100","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240718073100-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240718083500-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"></span>I'd guess the FBI/USSS have already talked to these officers:</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Pittsburgh sent 10 officers. Four of them, as we exclusively reported Sunday afternoon, were hit by shrapnel when a gunman opened fire at the rally, killing one man, and wounding Trump and several others. The Pittsburgh motorcycle officers suffered only minor injuries and were treated at the scene. One later went to the hospital. Video from CBS News shows those Pittsburgh officers, just minutes after they were hit with debris, in the stands helping some of the injured, even carrying one to safety.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wpxi.com/news/investigates/11-investigates-exclusive-pittsburgh-motorcycle-officers-transferred-after-working-trump-rally/4V43BKBXYBAN3PPHJTLK4FR4ZM/">[3]</a></p></blockquote></dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Sources tell (<a href="/wiki/WPXI" title="WPXI">WPXI</a>) Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-updates-apparent-shots-fired-223759785.html">[4]</a></p></blockquote> <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240718083500-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240718083500-KiharaNoukan-20240718013400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240718105800-KiharaNoukan-20240714233800"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://x.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1814130124775620849"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900-Soibangla-20240718105800"></span>Ken Dilanian/Julia Ainsley of NBC report</a> that Secret Service spox confirmed bullet, not glass, struck Trump <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900-Soibangla-20240718105800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900-Soibangla-20240718105800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240725014300-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240725014300-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240725014300","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":12,"id":"c-Soibangla-20240725014300-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20240725014300-KiharaNoukan-20240720055900"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300"></span>AP</a>: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">FBI says Trump was indeed struck by bullet during assassination attempt</q></dd> <dd>Pay up. @<a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">Soibangla</a> <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240727155300","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300","replies":["c-Soibangla-20240727212100-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300-Soibangla-20240725014300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20240727212100-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300"></span>I will follow up with you in 90 days <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20240727212100-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20240727212100-KiharaNoukan-20240727155300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Despite the AP headline you cited, "FBI says Trump was indeed struck by bullet during assassination attempt," the FBI actually said "What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole <i>or fragmented into smaller pieces</i>, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle."<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf">[6]</a></dd> <dd>The NYT headline said "Bullet or Fragment of One Struck Trump’s Ear, F.B.I. Says"<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/26/us/politics/fbi-trump-bullet-ear.html">[7]</a></dd> <dd>I await a definitive FBI determination in a final report. See you then. <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20241025073700-KiharaNoukan-20241025070500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20241025073700-KiharaNoukan-20241025070500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025073700","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":16,"id":"c-Soibangla-20241025073700-KiharaNoukan-20241025070500","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20241025073700-KiharaNoukan-20241025070500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">Soibangla</a></dd> <dd>Terms from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Attempted_assassination_of_Donald_Trump&diff=prev&oldid=1234552216">you</a>: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">I will donate $50 to a charity of your choosing if it turns out he was struck by a bullet</q></dd> <dd>The entire disagreement was whether he was struck by the bullet or by something else, namely glass or later on, debris from the floor. Pivoting to being struck by portions of a bullet not counting as being struck by a bullet is extremely bad faith. By this logic, a soldier may not truly be struck by a bullet, if the bullet fragments from contact against armor before reaching flesh. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:44, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025074400","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":17,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700","replies":["c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400-Soibangla-20241025073700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400"></span>I said a bullet, not a fragment of a bullet. there is zero bad faith and I will not entertain such aspersions. <a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla">soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241025082700","author":"Soibangla","type":"comment","level":18,"id":"c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20241025082700-KiharaNoukan-20241025074400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-SilverLocust-20240725013700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sheetz_v._County_of_El_Dorado_has_been-20240725013700","replies":["c-SilverLocust-20240725013700-Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Sheetz_v._County_of_El_Dorado_has_been"],"text":"Your submission at Articles for creation: Sheetz v. 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I have <b>automatically detected</b> that <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1246575404" title="Special:Diff/1246575404">this edit</a> performed by you, on the page <a href="/wiki/Hedge_fund" title="Hedge fund">Hedge fund</a>, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows: </p> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_errors:_bare_URL" title="Category:CS1 errors: bare URL">bare URL</a> error. References show this error when one of the URL-containing parameters cannot be paired with an associated title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="User:Qwerfjkl (bot)">Qwerfjkl (bot)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl (bot)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20240919201100-CS1_error_on_Hedge_fund" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20240919201100-CS1_error_on_Hedge_fund"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240919201100","author":"Qwerfjkl (bot)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20240919201100-CS1_error_on_Hedge_fund","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20240919201100-CS1_error_on_Hedge_fund"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-KyleJoan-20241011020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500","replies":["c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"],"text":"Tony Dokoupil","linkableTitle":"Tony Dokoupil"}--><h2 id="Tony_Dokoupil" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500"></span><a href="/wiki/Tony_Dokoupil" title="Tony Dokoupil">Tony Dokoupil</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KiharaNoukan&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Tony Dokoupil"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-KyleJoan-20241011020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500","replies":["c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200","timestamp":"20241011081300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-KyleJoan-20241011020500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Tony_Dokoupil-20241011020500","replies":["c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"],"text":"Tony Dokoupil","linkableTitle":"Tony Dokoupil"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"></span>Hi there. If you'd still like to pursue <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Dokoupil&diff=1250534610&oldid=1250461301">the addition of this material</a>, please also look at these sources,<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4920700-cbs-reprimands-anchor-over-coates-interview/">[8]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.thewrap.com/george-cheeks-cbs-news-ta-nehisi-coates-interview-response/">[9]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/07/media/cbs-ta-nehisi-coates-tony-dokoupil-interview/index.html">[10]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://deadline.com/2024/10/paramount-cbs-news-tony-dokoupil-interview-ta-nehisi-coates-1236111891/">[11]</a> where it's been documented that some employees "objected to Dokoupil's tone", that "several staffers at CBS were angered by how Dokoupil conducted himself", that CBS News CEO Wendy McMahon also said the interview did not meet CBS standards, and that Paramount executives disagree about how the matter was handled (with Chair Shari Redstone saying that it was a "mistake" to criticize Dokoupil in public and Co-CEO George Cheeks praising McMahon for stewarding the network's standards). Why does Jan Crawford warrant a mention over these other individuals? What does due material that takes every reliable report about the aftermath of this event into consideration look like? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KyleJoan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KyleJoan (page does not exist)"><span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95"><b>K</b>yle<b>J</b>oan</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:KyleJoan" title="User talk:KyleJoan"><span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011020500","author":"KyleJoan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil","replies":["c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KyleJoan-20241011020500-Tony_Dokoupil"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500"></span>Discussion of this belongs on the article talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:KiharaNoukan" title="User:KiharaNoukan">KiharaNoukan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011054200","author":"KiharaNoukan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500","replies":["c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200","c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200-KyleJoan-20241011020500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"></span>Sure, but I'm not looking to add more material about this event. This was to help craft a more neutral summary in case you still believe more details are necessary. If not, cool. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KyleJoan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KyleJoan (page does not exist)"><span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#CD8C95"><b>K</b>yle<b>J</b>oan</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:KyleJoan" title="User talk:KyleJoan"><span style="font-family:Consolas; color:#8B6969">talk</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011055600","author":"KyleJoan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KyleJoan-20241011055600-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"></span>KyleJoan is trying to push bias onto a BLP by reverting your edits and mine, and coming here instead of the page's talk page (possibly to hide the conversation?). She now claims that she will report me for edit warring, presumably to avoid uncomfortable discussions about her obvious edit warring. Any rational person can see that leaving in one-sided criticism of Dokoupil without mentioning the well-documented (and well-sourced by the two of us in the article) support of Dokoupil and criticim of the criticism is an obvious BLP violation in favor of pushing a biased BLP to try to ruin the reporter's reputation through slander. I hope you stick around and push for the truth.</dd> <dd>Thank you.</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Matza_Pizza&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Matza Pizza (page does not exist)">Matza Pizza</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matza_Pizza" title="User talk:Matza Pizza">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KiharaNoukan#c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241011081300","author":"Matza Pizza","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matza_Pizza-20241011081300-KiharaNoukan-20241011054200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"],"text":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message","linkableTitle":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"}--><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KiharaNoukan&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message","timestamp":"20241119004800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119004800","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"],"text":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message","linkableTitle":"ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"}--></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119004800-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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