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You can discuss ITN candidates under the header. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1141322084">@media all and (max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tocleft{width:100%!important}}@media all and (min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tocleft{float:left;clear:left;width:auto;margin:0 1em 0.5em 0}body.skin-vector-2022 .mw-parser-output .tocleft{margin:0}.mw-parser-output .tocleft-clear-both{clear:both}.mw-parser-output .tocleft-clear-none{clear:none}}</style><div class="tocleft" style=""><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/></div> <table align="right" cellspacing="3" width="46%" style="clear:right;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border:1px solid #c6c9ff; padding:1em; padding-top:.5em; color: inherit; background-color:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd)"> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1053378754">.mw-parser-output .itn-img{float:right;margin-left:0.5em;margin-top:0.2em}</style><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 112px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Yoav_Galant_1.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Yoav Gallant in 2023"><img alt="Yoav Gallant in 2023" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Yoav_Galant_1.jpg/112px-Yoav_Galant_1.jpg" decoding="async" width="112" height="174" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Yoav_Galant_1.jpg/168px-Yoav_Galant_1.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Yoav_Galant_1.jpg/224px-Yoav_Galant_1.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2281" data-file-height="3543"/></a><div class="thumbcaption" style="padding: 0.25em 0; word-wrap: break-word; text-align: left;">Yoav Gallant</div></div> </div> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> issues arrest warrants for Israeli prime minister <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, former Israeli defense minister <a href="/wiki/Yoav_Gallant" title="Yoav Gallant">Yoav Gallant</a> (pictured), and Hamas leader <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a> in its <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">investigation of war crimes in Palestine</a>.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">Forty-five pro-democracy activists</a> are sentenced under the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_national_security_law" title="2020 Hong Kong national security law">Hong Kong national security law</a> for their participation in the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_pro-democracy_primaries" title="2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries">2020 pro-democracy primaries</a>.</li> <li>In <a href="/wiki/Motorcycle_racing" title="Motorcycle racing">motorcycle racing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jorge_Mart%C3%ADn" title="Jorge Martín">Jorge Martín</a> wins <a href="/wiki/2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="2024 MotoGP World Championship">the MotoGP World Championship</a>.</li></ul> <div class="itn-footer" style="margin-top: 0.5em;"> <div><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events" title="Portal:Current events">Ongoing</a>: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war" title="Israel–Hamas war">Israel–Hamas war</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine_(1_August_2024_%E2%80%93_present)" title="Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 August 2024 – present)">timeline</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Sudanese civil war (2023–present)">Sudanese civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Sudanese_civil_war_(2024)" title="Timeline of the Sudanese civil war (2024)">timeline</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div> <div><a href="/wiki/Deaths_in_2024" title="Deaths in 2024">Recent deaths</a>: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Diane_Coleman" title="Diane Coleman">Diane Coleman</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pat_Koch_Thaler" title="Pat Koch Thaler">Pat Koch Thaler</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Thomas_E._Kurtz" title="Thomas E. 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Kurtz</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Olav_Thon" title="Olav Thon">Olav Thon</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jon_Kenny" title="Jon Kenny">Jon Kenny</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Yuriko,_Princess_Mikasa" title="Yuriko, Princess Mikasa">Yuriko, Princess Mikasa</a></li></ul></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist itn-footer noprint" style="text-align:right;"> <ul><li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Nominate an article</a></li></ul> </div> <div class="plainlinks" align="right"> <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">view</a> — <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=history">page history</a> — <a href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Template:In_the_news" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Template:In the news">related changes</a> — <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">edit</a> </div></td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div id="ITNC_text"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td style="background: var(--background-color-warning-subtle, #fdf2d5); color: var(--color-base, #202122); border:1px solid #a3b1bf; padding:1em; vertical-align:top;"> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Glossary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Glossary">Glossary</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/header&action=edit&section=T-1" title="Edit section: Glossary">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li>Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story. <ul><li>Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.</li> <li>A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.</li></ul></li> <li>Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.</li> <li>The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.</li></ul> All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">standards of review</a>. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality. <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_steps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_steps">Nomination steps</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/header&action=edit&section=T-2" title="Edit section: Nomination steps">edit</a>]</div> <ul><li>Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">minimum requirements</a> and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.</li> <li>Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).</li> <li>Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.</li></ul> <dl><dd>Then paste the {{<a href="/wiki/Template:ITN_candidate" title="Template:ITN candidate">ITN candidate</a>}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">support your nomination</a> and be in the article. Write your blurb in <a href="/wiki/Simple_present_tense" class="mw-redirect" title="Simple present tense">simple present tense</a>. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. 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We at ITN do not handle <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">conflicts of interest</a>.</li> <li>Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).</li> <li>Oppose a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">recurring item</a> here because you disagree with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">recurring items</a> criteria. Discuss them <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Recurring_items" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Recurring items">here</a>.</li> <li>Use ITN as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">forum</a> for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.</li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggesting_updates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggesting_updates">Suggesting updates</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/header&action=edit&section=T-7" title="Edit section: Suggesting updates">edit</a>]</div> There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items: <ul><li>Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#Errors_with_"In_the_news"" title="Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors">WP:Errors</a>.</li> <li>Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.</li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1201045014">.mw-parser-output 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href="#(Posted)_111th_Grey_Cup">(Posted) 111th Grey Cup</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8D9D9;">4,431</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,431 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#November_16">November 16</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;">125</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;font-weight:bold;">125 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_John_Hine">RD: John Hine</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F1F1;">1,203</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,203 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack">2024 Wuxi stabbing attack</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8E5E5;">2,881</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,881 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Vladimir_Shklyarov">RD: Vladimir Shklyarov</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F4F4;">904</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">904 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Gerry_Weil">RD: Gerry Weil</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F6F6;">574</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">574 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Pat_Koch_Thaler">(Posted) RD: Pat Koch Thaler</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F5F5;">693</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">693 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Béla_Károlyi">RD: Béla Károlyi</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F3F3;">951</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">951 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Olav_Thon">(Posted) RD: Olav Thon</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8EBEB;">2,011</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,011 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2024 (2024-11-22) (Friday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict" class="mw-redirect" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Beqaa_Valley_airstrikes" title="2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes">2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes</a> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli</a> airstrike targeting the <a href="/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_Lebanon" title="List of hospitals in Lebanon">Dar El Amal Hospital</a> in <a href="/wiki/Duris,_Lebanon" title="Duris, Lebanon">Duris</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Bekaa_Valley" class="mw-redirect" title="Bekaa Valley">Bekaa Valley</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>, kills the hospital director and six other <a href="/wiki/Health_workers" class="mw-redirect" title="Health workers">health workers</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-kills-hospital-director-6-staffers-in-deliberate-airstrike-on-his-home-in-eastern-lebanon-report/3401759">(Anadolu Agency)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/israel-bombards-beirut-suburbs-as-fighting-rages-in-southern-lebanon">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li>At least five <a href="/wiki/Medics" class="mw-redirect" title="Medics">medics</a> are killed when <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> airstrikes hit a multistorey building in <a href="/wiki/Chyah" title="Chyah">Chyah</a>, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, Lebanon. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/israel-bombards-beirut-suburbs-as-fighting-rages-in-southern-lebanon">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kursk_offensive" title="2024 Kursk offensive">2024 Kursk offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russian</a> human rights commissioner <a href="/wiki/Tatyana_Moskalkova" title="Tatyana Moskalkova">Tatyana Moskalkova</a> states that 46 of one thousand <a href="/wiki/Russians" title="Russians">Russian civilians</a> who claimed to have been forcibly relocated by <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> into its territory have been returned, following extensive negotiations involving the <a href="/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement" title="International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement">Red Cross</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-kyiv-returned-46-civilians-taken-ukraine-after-incursion-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Two people are killed and 12 others are injured in a Russian <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">drone</a> attack on <a href="/wiki/Civilian" title="Civilian">civilian</a> infrastructure in <a href="/wiki/Sumy" title="Sumy">Sumy</a>, Ukraine. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-drone-attack-sumy-kills-two-injures-12-local-authorities-say-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan" title="Sectarian violence in Pakistan">Sectarian violence in Pakistan</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> <ul><li>Large crowds of protesters gather in <a href="/wiki/Parachinar" title="Parachinar">Parachinar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, to protest the massacre of 50 <a href="/wiki/Shia_Islam" title="Shia Islam">Shiite</a> <a href="/wiki/Pakistanis" title="Pakistanis">Pakistanis</a> as well as the ongoing <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence" title="Sectarian violence">sectarian violence</a> in the region. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-town-uproar-after-40-shiites-gunned-down-bus-convoy-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://menafn.com/1108915953/Fear-Grips-Pakistans-Kurram-District-As-50-Killed-In-Cold-Blood">(MENAFN)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mali_War" title="Mali War">Mali War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Jama%27at_Nasr_al-Islam_wal-Muslimin" title="Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin">Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin</a> claims responsibility for an attack in <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a> the previous day which killed seven <a href="/wiki/Wagner_Group" title="Wagner Group">Wagner Group</a> mercenaries. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/least-seven-russian-mercenaries-killed-mali-attack-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="German economic crisis (2022–present)">German economic crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">German</a> <a href="/wiki/Automotive_industry" title="Automotive industry">automotive supplier</a> <a href="/wiki/Bosch_(company)" title="Bosch (company)">Bosch</a> announces plans to <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">layoff</a> 5,550 employees, including 3,500 by 2027, as part of measures to reduce costs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bosch-to-cut-5000-jobs-with-car-industry-in-crisis/a-70862628">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/bosch-axe-5550-jobs-latest-blow-german-auto-sector-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> <ul><li>A second <a href="/wiki/Australians" title="Australians">Australian</a> tourist dies of <a href="/wiki/Methanol_toxicity" title="Methanol toxicity">alcohol poisoning</a> in <a href="/wiki/Vang_Vieng" title="Vang Vieng">Vang Vieng</a>, <a href="/wiki/Laos" title="Laos">Laos</a>, bringing the death toll from the incident to six. Eight others remain hospitalized. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-22/holly-bowles-dies-methanol-poisoning-laos-bianca-jones-melbourne/104632612">(ABC News Australia)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Health and environment <ul><li>An infant dies and at least ten other people fall ill in a <a href="/wiki/Listeriosis" title="Listeriosis">listeria outbreak</a> related to ready-to-eat meat and poultry products in <a href="/wiki/California" title="California">California</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/yu-shang-food-listeria-death-infant-illness-b8b3c72f331db48b26c33949006f0d3a">(AP)</a></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Conscription_of_yeshiva_students" title="Conscription of yeshiva students">Conscription of yeshiva students</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israel Defense Forces</a> issue more than 1,000 <a href="/wiki/Arrest_warrant" title="Arrest warrant">arrest warrants</a> to <a href="/wiki/Haredi_Judaism" title="Haredi Judaism">ultra-Orthodox Jews</a> in <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> for <a href="/wiki/Draft_evasion" title="Draft evasion">evading draft orders</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/middleeast/israel-arrest-warrants-ultra-orthodox-draft-intl-latam/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-issued-over-1000-arrest-warrants-to-ultra-orthodox-who-ignored-draft-orders-says-officer/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Norway%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Norway–United States relations">Norway–United States relations</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Norwegians" title="Norwegians">Norwegian</a> man working as a guard at the <a href="/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_Oslo" title="Embassy of the United States, Oslo">United States Embassy</a> in <a href="/wiki/Oslo" title="Oslo">Oslo</a> is arrested, on suspicion of <a href="/wiki/Espionage" title="Espionage">spying</a> for <a href="/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Service_(Russia)" title="Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia)">Russia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Council_for_Intelligence_Coordination" title="Council for Intelligence Coordination">Iran</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/22/politics/norwegian-embassy-guard-accused-spy-russia-iran/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Energy_industry" title="Energy industry">Energy company</a> <a href="/wiki/Phillips_66" title="Phillips 66">Phillips 66</a> is indicted in a <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/Federal_judiciary_of_the_United_States" title="Federal judiciary of the United States">federal court</a> on six charges of violating the <a href="/wiki/Clean_Water_Act" title="Clean Water Act">Clean Water Act</a> in <a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles_County" class="mw-redirect" title="Los Angeles County">Los Angeles County</a>, <a href="/wiki/California" title="California">California</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/phillips-66-faces-federal-charges-accused-of-polluting-la-sewers-with-790000-gallons-of-wastewater/">(CBS News)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/National_Autonomous_Electoral_Commission_(Senegal)" title="National Autonomous Electoral Commission (Senegal)">National Autonomous Electoral Commission</a> of <a href="/wiki/Senegal" title="Senegal">Senegal</a> certifies the results of the <a href="/wiki/National_Assembly_(Senegal)" title="National Assembly (Senegal)">parliamentary</a> election, with the ruling <a href="/wiki/PASTEF" title="PASTEF">PASTEF</a> party winning 130 out of 165 seats. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20241121-s%C3%A9n%C3%A9gal-le-parti-au-pouvoir-pastef-remporte-haut-la-main-les-l%C3%A9gislatives-anticip%C3%A9es-du-17-novembre">(RFI)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/21/senegals-ruling-pastef-party-secures-large-majority-in-parliament">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Nicaragua" title="Nicaragua">Nicaraguan</a> lawmakers vote unanimously to approve a <a href="/wiki/Constitution_of_Nicaragua" title="Constitution of Nicaragua">constitutional amendment</a> that strengthens the political power of <a href="/wiki/President_of_Nicaragua" title="President of Nicaragua">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Daniel_Ortega" title="Daniel Ortega">Daniel Ortega</a> and makes his wife and <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Nicaragua" title="Vice President of Nicaragua">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Rosario_Murillo" title="Rosario Murillo">Rosario Murillo</a> "co-president". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://confidencial.digital/english/ortega-and-murillo-seize-absolute-power-in-nicaragua/">(Confidencial)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/nicaragua-approves-reforms-boosting-power-of-president-ortega-and-his-wife">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Censorship_in_Belarus" title="Censorship in Belarus">Censorship in Belarus</a> <ul><li>In a speech at <a href="/wiki/Minsk_State_Linguistic_University" title="Minsk State Linguistic University">Minsk State Linguistic University</a>, <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">Belarusian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> threatens to shutdown the <a href="/wiki/Internet" title="Internet">Internet</a> in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">his country</a> if there are mass protests before the <a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election">upcoming presidential election</a> after the <a href="/wiki/2020_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2020 Belarusian presidential election">previous election</a> saw <a href="/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_protests" title="2020–2021 Belarusian protests">mass protests</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-lukashenka-internet-shutdown-protests/33211982.html">(Rferl)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Instagram" title="Instagram">Instagram</a> <a href="/wiki/Chief_executive_officer" title="Chief executive officer">CEO</a> <a href="/wiki/Adam_Mosseri" title="Adam Mosseri">Adam Mosseri</a> announces that <a href="/wiki/Meta_Platforms" title="Meta Platforms">Meta Platforms</a> social network <a href="/wiki/Threads_(social_network)" title="Threads (social network)">Threads</a> will test <a href="/wiki/Artificial_intelligence" title="Artificial intelligence">AI</a>-powered summaries for trending topics. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/22/taking-a-cue-from-x-threads-tests-ai-powered-summaries-of-trending-topics/">(TechCrunch)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine-November_22-20241122170300">(Closed) Russia launches ICBM/IRBM into Ukraine</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: (Closed) Russia launches ICBM/IRBM into Ukraine">edit</a>]</div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1250141580">.mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#EDEAFF;color:inherit;padding:0 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class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241123004100-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248495340">.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate{border:1px solid #a3b1bf;color:inherit;padding:6px;height:auto;overflow:auto}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-default{background-color:#e6f2ff}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ITNR{background-color:#e6ffe6}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-RD{background-color:#ffffe6}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-add{background-color:#f2ceec}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-rem{background-color:#cecef2}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-default{background-color:#001933}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ITNR{background-color:#003300}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-RD{background-color:#333300}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-add{background-color:#280b23}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-rem{background-color:#0b0b28}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-default{background-color:#001933}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ITNR{background-color:#003300}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-RD{background-color:#333300}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-add{background-color:#280b23}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ongoing-rem{background-color:#0b0b28}}</style> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik (missile)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Talk:Oreshnik (missile)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oreshnik_(missile)&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Oreshnik_(missile)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Oreshnik+%28missile%29">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> launches a hypersonic projectile claimed to be an <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik</a> <a href="/wiki/Intermediate-range_ballistic_missile" title="Intermediate-range ballistic missile">intermediate-range ballistic missile</a> from <a href="/wiki/Astrakhan_Oblast" title="Astrakhan Oblast">Astrakhan Oblast</a> in a conventional strike on <a href="/wiki/Dnipro" title="Dnipro">Dnipro</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-attack-ukraine-kyiv-says-2024-11-21/">Reuters</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:219.74.216.56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:219.74.216.56 (page does not exist)">219.74.216.56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.74.216.56" title="User talk:219.74.216.56">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.74.216.56&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BOreshnik+%28missile%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Oreshnik+%28missile%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: Major escalation of Russian invasion of Ukraine. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:219.74.216.56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:219.74.216.56 (page does not exist)">219.74.216.56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.74.216.56#top" title="User talk:219.74.216.56">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/219.74.216.56" title="Special:Contributions/219.74.216.56">contribs</a>) <ul><li>What exactly was launched is unclear, as we can't take Russia's own claims to their word, and more reliable sources says it wasn't ICBMs <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-missiles-kyiv-claims-icbm-dnipro-after-atacams-strike/">[1]</a>. This is an escalation, but at this point, reasonably covered by the ongoing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122170300-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Strong oppose - this was NOT a nuclear warhead, and we have an article for the projectile - <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik (missile)</a>. Let's not puff it up any more than it was. We didn't post Ukraine using West-supplied long-range missiles and Putin's nuclear threats that he always makes, so let's not post the use of Russia's shiny new toy. Also, you may want to use a template for future ITN submissions. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122172600-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Moved to a template. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122173200-Departure–-20241122172600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose per Masem and Departure. Covered by ongoing. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122185500-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. Appears not to be an ICBM, which might be notable. Otherwise, this appears to be suitably covered by ongoing. ---- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122190400-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support in principle, just change blurb according to RS, major escalation. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122204200-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Could you point me towards the RS that states this was an ICBM, or anything other than the blurb states, then? Also, this wasn't even the only hypersonic ballistic missile launch that day. Multiple <a href="/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal" title="Kh-47M2 Kinzhal">Kh-47M2 Kinzhal</a> strikes were reported in the same Reuters article. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122204700-BilboBeggins-20241122204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ok, source state that it was new intermediate-range ballistic missile.</dd> <dd>But also that it was a nuclear-capable weapon <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/what-do-we-know-about-russias-new-ballistic-missile-oreshnik">[2]</a>.</dd> <dd>It was a major escalation and major event in war, Putin addressed the nation, which he only did after the start of the war, mobilisation, and Prigozhin mutiny. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122214100-Departure–-20241122204700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The Kinzhal also has nuclear capabilities. Prigozhin's mutiny was quite a while ago so it tracks he'd make another address to remind the West there's a war going on, even when it's just a new weapon. I'd prefer not to take Putin on his word that this was something special. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122214900-BilboBeggins-20241122214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose per Departure- <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity|</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHiddenCity-20241122215400-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose good faith nom. Just another day in a country that's been ruthlessly invaded and subjected to near daily indiscriminate bombing attacks. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241122220100-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose not actually an intercontinental ballistic missile nor nuclear. If one of those is launched, would be more likely to fulfill notability requirement. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122221300-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose Covered by Ongoing, <a href="/wiki/User:Editor_5426387" title="User:Editor 5426387">Editor 5426387</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editor_5426387" title="User talk:Editor 5426387">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Editor_5426387-20241122224600-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Kurram_massacre" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Kurram_massacre-November_22-20241122034800">2024 Kurram massacre</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: 2024 Kurram massacre">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Kurram_massacre" title="Talk:2024 Kurram massacre">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Kurram_massacre&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Kurram_massacre&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" title="2024 Kurram massacre">Gunmen attacked</a> a large passenger convoy of vehicles in <a href="/wiki/Kurram_district" class="mw-redirect" title="Kurram district">Kurram district</a> of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, resulting in the death of 50 people and 20 injuries. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxw18yvrndo">BBC</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/gun-attack-passenger-vans-pakistan-claims-11-lives-2024-11-21/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/asia/kurram-pakistan-attack.html">NY Times</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.voanews.com/a/gunmen-massacre-dozens-of-passengers-in-pakistan/7872050.html">VOA</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.app.com.pk/national/kp-cm-condemns-armed-attack-on-passenger-vehicles-in-kurram/">APP</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/21/dozens-killed-in-north-west-pakistan-in-gun-attack-on-shia-convoy">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-gunmen-kill-38-on-highway-near-afghan-border/a-70845391">DW</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/video/shootings-pakistan-a7cbc00ab0574ecbb1da8be8308a8da6">AP</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ainty_Painty" title="User:Ainty Painty">Ainty Painty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ainty_Painty" title="User talk:Ainty Painty">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ainty_Painty&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Kurram+massacre%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Noble_Attempt" title="User:Noble Attempt">Noble Attempt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noble_Attempt" title="User talk:Noble Attempt">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Noble_Attempt&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Kurram+massacre%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Ainty_Painty" title="User:Ainty Painty">Ainty Painty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ainty_Painty" title="User talk:Ainty Painty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800-2024_Kurram_massacre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Seems noteworthy. Deserves attention. <a href="/wiki/User:Ivebeenhacked" title="User:Ivebeenhacked">Hacked</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivebeenhacked" title="User talk:Ivebeenhacked">Talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked" title="Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ivebeenhacked-20241122040500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Another major attack that should be on the main page. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122053500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: A very significant and major insurgent attack, should be on the main <a href="/wiki/User:M_Waleed" title="User:M Waleed">Waleed</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M_Waleed#top" title="User talk:M Waleed">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-M_Waleed-20241122053900-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Seems too short, and what reactions there are are the usual "fluff" in the sense that there's condolances and not actual any actions. Likely needs a background section too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122055800-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Local leaders complaining of a lack of security, officials saying the death toll will rise, and the PM and President both commenting on the incident are not "fluff". The entire section is only 5 sentences long. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122060900-Masem-20241122055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I would expect a good reaction section not to be flooded with non-action statements of sympathy and anger, but actual steps towards action to investigate and make sure such events happen again, what they are doing for familes of the victims, etc. (eg: its far too easy for quote anyone with "thoughts and prayers" after a tragic event, that doesn't make for good encyclopedic content) — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122131900-Harizotoh9-20241122060900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose: Not enough sources, and it reads as a stub. <a href="/wiki/User:Aneirinn" title="User:Aneirinn">Aneirinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aneirinn" title="User talk:Aneirinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aneirinn-20241122063600-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality as the article is barebones. Support on notability, however. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122073000-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Sectarian nature makes it more relevant to mention in the headline.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20241122101500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose on quality, support on notability the ongoing land dispute & sectarian conflict which is at the source of the attack needs to be fleshed out in the background section. As of now, all the article says is "Sunni and Shia Muslims are in conflict in the region over a dispute over land". That is nowhere near a sufficient explanation. We can't put an incomplete article on the main page. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122221900-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Seems short, I'd like to have it with more detail. Support on notability A significant <a href="/wiki/Shia-Sunni_relations" class="mw-redirect" title="Shia-Sunni relations">Shia-Sunni relations</a> attack <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) 22:27, 22 November (UTC)</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_21" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_21-20241121122500">November 21</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: November 21">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 21">Portal:Current events/2024 November 21</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 21" id="2024_November_21" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 21, 2024 (2024-11-21) (Thursday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Dnipro_strikes_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Dnipro strikes (2022–present)">Dnipro strikes</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present)">Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russia</a> strikes <a href="/wiki/Dnipro" title="Dnipro">Dnipro</a>, Ukraine, with a projectile stated by <a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> to be a new <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik</a> <a href="/wiki/Intermediate-range_ballistic_missile" title="Intermediate-range ballistic missile">intermediate-range ballistic missile</a> (IRBM) model. This confirms earlier reports from the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> and other western officials, who said that Russia had used an IRBM after initial reports misidentified the missile as a <a href="/wiki/RS-26_Rubezh" title="RS-26 Rubezh">RS-26 Rubezh</a> <a href="/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile" title="Intercontinental ballistic missile">intercontinental ballistic missile</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-attack-ukraine-kyiv-says-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-missiles-kyiv-claims-icbm-dnipro-after-atacams-strike/">(CBS News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c20726y20kvt?post=asset%3A47fd8644-8538-475d-a3cc-6f5714f0d191#post">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Hungary_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hungary" title="Hungary">Hungary</a> announces the deployment of a <a href="/wiki/Missile_defense" title="Missile defense">missile defense</a> system on <a href="/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93Ukraine_border" title="Hungary–Ukraine border">its border</a> with <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, saying that the threat of escalation with <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> is now "greater than ever". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungary-install-air-defence-system-near-ukraine-border-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="United Kingdom and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">United Kingdom and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_ambassadors_of_Russia_to_the_United_Kingdom" title="List of ambassadors of Russia to the United Kingdom">Russian ambassador</a> to the <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> <a href="/wiki/Andrey_Kelin" title="Andrey Kelin">Andrey Kelin</a> says that the UK is now "directly involved" in the war in Ukraine following yesterday's use of British <a href="/wiki/Storm_Shadow" title="Storm Shadow">Storm Shadow</a> <a href="/wiki/Cruise_missile" title="Cruise missile">cruise missiles</a> by Ukraine to strike targets inside Russia. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/britain-directly-involved-in-ukraine-war-russian-ambassador-tells-sky-news-13257896">(Sky News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan" title="Sectarian violence in Pakistan">Sectarian violence in Pakistan</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> <ul><li>At least 42 people are killed and many others are wounded as gunmen <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">open fire</a> against two convoys carrying <a href="/wiki/Shia_Islam" title="Shia Islam">Shia</a> people in <a href="/wiki/Kurram_District" title="Kurram District">Kurram District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/dozens-killed-in-sectarian-violence-in-pakistans-khyber-pakhtunkhwa">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> fires a rocket barrage at <a href="/wiki/Northern_District_(Israel)" title="Northern District (Israel)">northern</a> <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a>, killing one person in the city of <a href="/wiki/Nahariya" title="Nahariya">Nahariya</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/man-killed-rocket-attack-northern-israeli-town-israeli-medics-say-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Australian_people" class="mw-redirect" title="Australian people">Australian</a> and a <a href="/wiki/British_people" title="British people">British</a> tourist die after <a href="/wiki/Methanol_toxicity" title="Methanol toxicity">consuming poisoned alcohol</a> in <a href="/wiki/Vang_Vieng" title="Vang Vieng">Vang Vieng</a>, <a href="/wiki/Laos" title="Laos">Laos</a>, bringing the death toll from the incident to five. Nine others are hospitalized. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27wyrxz9yo">(BBC News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/australian-laos-thailand-alcohol-poisoning-american-new-zealand-d44a61c3a12bbee4fd917346493d7f94">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Health and environment <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Health_(New_Zealand)" title="Ministry of Health (New Zealand)">Ministry of Health</a> of <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> declares a national <a href="/wiki/Epidemic" title="Epidemic">epidemic</a> of <a href="/wiki/Whooping_cough" title="Whooping cough">whooping cough</a> after a recent spike of 263 cases in the past four weeks. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/534519/new-zealand-declares-whooping-cough-epidemic">(RNZ)</a></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Russia–United States relations">Russia–United States relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury" title="United States Secretary of the Treasury">U.S. Treasury Secretary</a> <a href="/wiki/Janet_Yellen" title="Janet Yellen">Janet Yellen</a> announces that the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury" title="United States Department of the Treasury">Treasury Department</a> has imposed sanctions against <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>'s third-largest bank <a href="/wiki/Gazprombank" title="Gazprombank">Gazprombank</a> and its subsidiaries. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5002275-treasury-imposes-sanctions-on-russian-banks-financial-officials/">(The Hill)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">2022 Brazilian coup plot</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Brazil" title="Brazil">Brazilian</a> <a href="/wiki/Federal_Police_(Brazil)" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Police (Brazil)">Federal Police</a> indicts former <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others for attempting a <a href="/wiki/Coup" class="mw-redirect" title="Coup">coup</a> after he lost to <a href="/wiki/Lula_da_Silva" class="mw-redirect" title="Lula da Silva">Lula da Silva</a> in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_presidential_election" class="mw-redirect" title="2022 Brazilian presidential election">2022 election</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station_canopy_collapse" title="Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse">Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse</a> <ul><li>Eleven people, including former <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Construction,_Transport_and_Infrastructure_(Serbia)" title="Ministry of Construction, Transport and Infrastructure (Serbia)">construction minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Goran_Vesi%C4%87" title="Goran Vesić">Goran Vesić</a>, are arrested as part of an investigation into the <a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station" title="Novi Sad railway station">Novi Sad railway station</a> accident that caused 15 deaths earlier this month. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/serbian-train-station-collapse-prompts-wave-of-arrests/a-70854872">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://al24news.com/en/serbia-arrests-11-over-fatal-train-station-accident/">(AL24)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war" title="War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war">War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war</a>, <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> issues arrest warrants for <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Israel" title="Prime Minister of Israel">Israeli Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Defense_(Israel)" title="Ministry of Defense (Israel)">former Israeli minister of defense</a> <a href="/wiki/Yoav_Gallant" title="Yoav Gallant">Yoav Gallant</a>, and the leader of <a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a>' <a href="/wiki/Al-Qassam_Brigades" title="Al-Qassam Brigades">military wing</a> <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a>, who is presumed to be dead. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-830135">(Jerusalem Post)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/European_Southern_Observatory" title="European Southern Observatory">European Southern Observatory</a> announces that its astronomers in <a href="/wiki/Chile" title="Chile">Chile</a> capture the first close-up image of a <a href="/wiki/WOH_G64" title="WOH G64">star</a> outside the <a href="/wiki/Milky_Way" title="Milky Way">Milky Way</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/science/behemoth-star-closeup-picture.html">(The New York Times)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted-November_21-20241122072700">(Closed) Gautam Adani indicted</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: (Closed) Gautam Adani indicted">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">No consensus to post is likely emerge; some consensus that the entire topic is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">not even notable</a>, however, might. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122120900-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 121px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Gautam_Adani.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/121px-Gautam_Adani.jpg" decoding="async" width="121" height="162" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/182px-Gautam_Adani.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/242px-Gautam_Adani.jpg 2x" data-file-width="392" data-file-height="525"/></a></div> </div>Articles: <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gautam_Adani" title="Talk:Gautam Adani">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gautam_Adani&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gautam_Adani&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gautam+Adani">tag</a>) and <a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="Talk:United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al.&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al.&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=United+States+of+America+v.+Gautam+Adani+et+al.">tag</a>) Blurb: Indian billionaire <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani#Bribery_charges" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> and his associates <a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">are indicted</a> by federal prosecutors for bribing Indian Government officials and concealing the details from American investors. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-21/who-is-indian-billionaire-gautam-adani-and-what-are-the-us-bribery-charges">[3]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin">Ratnahastin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGautam+Adani%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gautam+Adani&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div> - <a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin">Ratnahastin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ratnahastin-20241122072700-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose at least on quality - the trial article, which should be linked, is a stub. Unsure on notability, as we don't often post trials of individuals aside from major world leaders. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072900-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.</a>, linking the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122091200-The_Kip-20241122072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose on quality and on notability yet another case of corruption of a local personality. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122075600-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose We seem to have a rash of indictments and warrants lately. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>, "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations, arrests and charges do not amount to a conviction." <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241122091700-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong oppose posting this as if he were found guilty violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241122095300-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose. Who is this guy? <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104100-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. There are lots of reasons why this isn't suitable for ITN. The case article - which should be the bold link - is a stub. This is a domestic case involving a private individual, very different from the ICC seeking a national leader. The case itself does not seem particularly significant, there are fraud and corruption trials all the time. The blurb is misleading, because it incorrectly implies Indian prosecutors, and isn't NPOV. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241122120400-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_New_Lithuanian_PM" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_New_Lithuanian_PM-November_21-20241122014900">(Ready) New Lithuanian PM</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: (Ready) New Lithuanian PM">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 171px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/171px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg" decoding="async" width="171" height="114" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/257px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/342px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1800" data-file-height="1200"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Talk:Gintautas Paluckas">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gintautas_Paluckas&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gintautas_Paluckas&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> is elected by the <a href="/wiki/Seimas" title="Seimas">Seimas</a> as the new <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Lithuania" title="Prime Minister of Lithuania">Prime Minister of Lithuania</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: Following <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">parliamentary elections</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> is elected by the <a href="/wiki/Seimas" title="Seimas">Seimas</a> as the new <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Lithuania" title="Prime Minister of Lithuania">Prime Minister of Lithuania</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.politico.eu/article/gintautas-paluckas-is-new-lithuania-pm/">[4]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2419533/gintautas-paluckas-confirmed-as-lithuania-s-prime-minister">[5]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:98.170.164.88&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:98.170.164.88 (page does not exist)">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:98.170.164.88&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Augenis" title="User:Augenis">Augenis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Augenis" title="User talk:Augenis">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Augenis&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Editorius124&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Editorius124 (page does not exist)">Editorius124</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editorius124" title="User talk:Editorius124">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Editorius124&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: ITN/R applies as the PM administers the executive branch (per <a href="/wiki/List_of_current_heads_of_state_and_government" title="List of current heads of state and government">here</a>, and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=990691177">the posting of his predecessor</a>), and since Paluckas was not previously mentioned in ITN. The results of the <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election</a> were posted <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1254647519">from November 1st</a> to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1255027133">2nd</a>, but that blurb mentioned <a href="/wiki/Vilija_Blinkevi%C4%8Di%C5%ABt%C4%97" title="Vilija Blinkevičiūtė">Vilija Blinkevičiūtė</a> as the leader of the winning party, and she unexpectedly chose not to become PM. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241122014900-(Ready)_New_Lithuanian_PM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment: The blurb should get a link to <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election</a>, also that would satisfy ITN/R better. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122044300-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Target articles seem to be of adequate quality. Propose altblurb incorporating election article. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072700-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Seems fair enough and ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Elios_Peredhel" title="User:Elios Peredhel">Elios Peredhel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elios_Peredhel" title="User talk:Elios Peredhel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Elios_Peredhel-20241122081800-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Note After clarifying the issue on the talk page, I just want to point out that he is not technically the PM at the moment. He will officially become PM once his cabinet is finalized, probably in December. I don't think it's a big deal as a lot of changes in political office don't take effect immediately, and this is the stage in the process at which his predecessor was posted to ITN anyway. If we do want to delay it until he is officially the PM, I'm fine with that. If not, perhaps changing the word "new" to "next" in the blurb would better suit his status, although even the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2419533/gintautas-paluckas-confirmed-as-lithuania-s-prime-minister">Lithuanian public broadcaster</a> doesn't do that or make much of a distinction. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241122091600-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>FYI: Trump was posted as soon as he was called the winner of the US elections even though he wont take office until January. <a href="/wiki/User:Prodrummer619" title="User:Prodrummer619">Prodrummer619</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prodrummer619" title="User talk:Prodrummer619">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Prodrummer619-20241122111800-98.170.164.88-20241122091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support. We should post announcement now. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104100-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support alt blurb : Incorporates both election and his article as it seems PM is not directly elected by people in Lithuania, also he is still not the PM (blurb says he's just elected) and cabinet comes from elected officials. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122131900-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support no problems quality wise, ITN/R. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122161900-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support and preferred altblurb. @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> can this be posted as we seem to have consensus? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123150800-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Jodi_Rell" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Jodi_Rell-November_21-20241122003600">RD: Jodi Rell</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: RD: Jodi Rell">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Jodi_Rell" title="Jodi Rell">Jodi Rell</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jodi_Rell" title="Talk:Jodi Rell">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jodi_Rell&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jodi_Rell&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/connecticut-governor-jodi-rell-dies-27319b5f00b8287f5666a47f8561aa4c">AP News</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJodi+Rell%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJodi+Rell%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Connecticut governor; death announced 21 November. <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241122003600-RD:_Jodi_Rell" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li>Oppose: Heavily uncited BLP. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122043900-Staraction-20241122003600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Bolsonaro_indicted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bolsonaro_indicted-November_21-20241121221200">Bolsonaro indicted</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Bolsonaro indicted">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">2022 Brazilian coup plot</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="Talk:2022 Brazilian coup plot">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_Brazilian_coup_plot&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2022_Brazilian_coup_plot&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others are indicted by Brazilian police for their roles in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">attempt to overthrow the 2022 election</a>, including the attempted assassination of <a href="/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva" title="Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva">Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others are formally accused by Brazilian police for their roles in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">attempt to overthrow the 2022 election</a>, including the attempted assassination of <a href="/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva" title="Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva">Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/americas/brazilian-ex-president-jair-bolsonaro-indicted-over-attempted-coup-plot/index.html">CNN</a> [<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea">AP News</a>] Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2022+Brazilian+coup+plot%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2022+Brazilian+coup+plot%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating</div> <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121221200-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Strong support The fact that Bolsonaro is linked with an attempt to assassinate Lula is notable enough. The indictment is very ITN worthy. The article looks good too aside from two cn tags in the Timeline section (not sure if that section itself needs and expansion). --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121221600-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note I don't see the indictments added yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121221900-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121221600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Added a paragraph about it and a sentence to the lead. <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121224500-Masem-20241121221900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>The article does not seem to be updated with the information about the indictments. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241121221800-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Added some updates. <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121224500-Natg_19-20241121221800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Strong support on notability - Brazil's equivalent of Trump's indictment(s). No reason this should be treated any different... except maybe on quality, which I've no comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122013100-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>• Support A former world leader is being prosecuted from overthrowing democracy is definitely newsworthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Rager7" title="User:Rager7">Rager7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rager7" title="User talk:Rager7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rager7-20241122220200-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256395271">.mw-parser-output .hidden-archive{box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;width:100%;clear:both;text-align:center;padding:1px;margin:0.2em auto 0;font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .hat-header{padding:0.25em 1em;line-height:1.5em;text-align:center;background-color:#f2dfce;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .hat-content{border:solid 1px silver;padding:8px;background-color:#fff4f2;color:inherit;text-align:left}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}</style> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a> thread — <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightof</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">theswords</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knightoftheswords281-20241122134400-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;">The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <dl><dd>Oppose seeing as how Lula got out of prison based on the political whims of a judge and then ran for president again this doesn't really mean anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122015100-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072500-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Lula was sentenced by the <a href="/wiki/Sergio_Moro" title="Sergio Moro">same judge</a> who would serve in the <a href="/wiki/Cabinet_of_Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Cabinet of Jair Bolsonaro">Cabinet of Jair Bolsonaro</a>, if political bias has to be talked about at all. None of this is relevant to whether Bolsonaro's indictment is notable or not; it is and we posted the Lula developments back then as well. Personal judgments of political assesments by editors aside. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122075600-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li>Support Highly noteworthy development in the attempted overthrow of democracy. Will be interesting to see if the matter is actually prosecuted properly and justice served unlike what happened in the US with Trump free to run again despite his attempt to overthrow democracy. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241122041100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Of immense notability, and article, especially this particular event, are well cited. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122043700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Former President indicted on serious charges is bigly news. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122052400-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Internationally noteworthy and quality articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Aneirinn" title="User:Aneirinn">Aneirinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aneirinn" title="User talk:Aneirinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aneirinn-20241122064100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per Departure. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072500-Scu_ba-20241122015100-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support While this was only the first of Bolsonaro's coup attempts (followed by <a href="/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Brazilian_election_protests" title="2022–2023 Brazilian election protests">2022–2023 Brazilian election protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack" title="2023 Brazilian Congress attack">2023 Brazilian Congress attack</a>), he is more significantly involved here than the others and likely the only event he is to be charged for. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122072900-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support - Former major world leader has been indicted in criminal court, due one of the most significant events in recent Brazilian history. Very notable. <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20241122092300-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support, major political event. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104000-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. The blurb and the article falsely tell us that the police have indicted Bolsonaro. In fact, the decision to indict lies with prosecutors, who have not yet made that decision. As per the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/americas/bolsonaro-coup-brazil-election-charges.html">NYT article</a> cited in the Wikipedia article: "Brazil’s federal police urged prosecutors to charge Mr. Bolsonaro and three dozen others (...) Federal prosecutors have still not decided whether to pursue charges in any of these cases". <a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein"> Sandstein </a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sandstein-20241122104700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per Sandstein's good point and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241122113900-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per Gotitbro and WP:SUSPECT. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122121100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose/Wait per Sandstein on account of the blurb not being factually accurate. These indictments are likely still forthcoming. I think blurb posting on this topic should wait until that time. <a href="/wiki/User:DarkSide830" title="User:DarkSide830">DarkSide830</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarkSide830" title="User talk:DarkSide830">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DarkSide830-20241122162100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. We need to get the wording right per the above, but this is the official report of a long police investigation, which is a major story in and of itself. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122174800-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support altblurb Prosecutors have clarified that although they will indict, it will take time to proceed to that next stage for logistical reasons: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bolsonaros-coup-indictment-postponed-by-brazils-top-prosecutor-sources-say-2024-11-22/">see here</a>. However, I think this is ITN now, and so posting now (when coverage is high) is appropriate. It would be different if the prosecutor hadn't yet decided on an indictment: he WILL certainly be indicted, just after the Holidays. As such, I have proposed an altblurb which uses modified language. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122223000-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support unusual occurrence and we have previously posted similar events concerning heads of state (e.g. jailing of <a href="/wiki/Frank_Bainimarama" title="Frank Bainimarama">Frank Bainimarama</a>). @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> do we have consensus here? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151200-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose as we post convictions, not indictments, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>. Posting Trump’s indictment was a mistake, so it’s better to not make it once again.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241123152700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed_Deif" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed-November_21-20241121135600">(Posted) ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, and Mohammed Deif</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: (Posted) ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, and Mohammed Deif">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="Talk:International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine">tag</a>) Blurb: The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> issues arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, former Defense Minister <a href="/wiki/Yoav_Gallant" title="Yoav Gallant">Yoav Gallant</a>, and Hamas leader <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a> in its <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">investigation of war crimes in Palestine</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/21/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-for-benjamin-netanyahu-israel">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/11/21/world/israel-netanyahu-hamas-gaza">NYTimes</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy">Nableezy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nableezy&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInternational+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ARandomName123&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInternational+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div>Nominator's comments: We previously posted warrants being issued for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/June_2011#[Posted]_ICC_arrest_warrant_for_Gaddafi" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/June 2011">Muammar Gaddafi </a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN_archives/2009/March" title="Wikipedia:ITN archives/2009/March">Omar Bashir</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2023#(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrant_for_Putin" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2023">Vladimir Putin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121135600-(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support Since the arrest warrants of Putin and others' were posted, I think this should be posted too as it is about a incumbent Prime Minister. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121141200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Strong support on notability, arrest warrants against world leaders have been posted before. Weak oppose on quality, the article isn't updated to where I think it should be to be posted. Besides that, otherwise it's well sourced. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121141500-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support This will severely limit the travel options for the wanted persons. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241121142000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support We did post the warrant for Putin, this precedentially follows. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241121145000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support front page news, so meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF">WP:ITNSIGNIF</a>. Would be good to add more to the section of the article about the warrants, but there's about enough to just about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY">WP:ITNQUALITY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241121145400-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support - Support on significance and precedent. I think the quality could be better but not quite to the point where it should stop this from being posted. ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241121145700-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Arrest warrants against world leaders are very rare i think <a href="/wiki/User:Bakhos2010" title="User:Bakhos2010">Bakhos2010</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bakhos2010" title="User talk:Bakhos2010">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bakhos2010-20241121150100-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong support as per <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a>. Suggest blurb is in present tense. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123" title="User talk:Martinevans123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Martinevans123-20241121150200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. Important development, rare event, and per ITN precedent. The article is detailed and well-referenced; I find its organisation quite confusing and the update isn't great, but it provides the facts of the case and is in good enough shape to post. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121151300-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support on notability as there is precedent that an international arrest warrant for an incumbent leader is notable, and on quality per Modest Genius above. <a href="/wiki/User:Vanilla_Wizard" title="User:Vanilla Wizard"> Vanilla </a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vanilla_Wizard" title="User talk:Vanilla Wizard"> Wizard </a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vanilla_Wizard" title="Special:Contributions/Vanilla Wizard">💙</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vanilla_Wizard-20241121154400-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Comment - an article has been made at <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a>. It's not protected yet, nor is it ITN quality, but it should be made the target. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121154800-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Absolutely no need for a separate article for the issuing of arrest warrants. It would have been far better to have an expansion of the ICC case. — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121193100-Departure–-20241121154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support per norm. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121160700-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121161200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wrong section? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121161300-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Oops yeah, was intending to comment below. For clarity, Support posting this, too. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121162200-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Strong support per nom. Article looks good. --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121162500-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support the general event being posted on notability. I would prefer the target being the <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a> article though, which I believe has been brought up to a reasonable level of quality by now. <a href="/wiki/User:Liu1126" title="User:Liu1126">Liu1126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liu1126" title="User talk:Liu1126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Liu1126-20241121173800-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted. I used the main article, since it wasn't really discussed if the sub-article should be used instead, and there's an obvious titling/scope issue with it. I used an image of Netanyahu and an additional use of "Israeli" per the choices used for the Russian ones in 2023. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/March_2023#March_17">[6]</a> These can all be changed if necessary. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121181000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment. Mohammed Deif is dead. What would his arrest warrant even mean in this case? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/104.171.53.110" title="Special:Contributions/104.171.53.110">104.171.53.110</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:104.171.53.110" title="User talk:104.171.53.110">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-104.171.53.110-20241121193600-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Our article explains that it's because neither Hamas nor independent sources have confirmed his death, so the ICC cannot determine if he is dead and decided to issue in case he is alive. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121200000-104.171.53.110-20241121193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>) Israel claims to have killed him in July, Hamas claims he's still alive. The ICC has been unable to determine either way, so issued the warrant. Regardless of whether you think either claim is tenable, or if any of these people will be arrested, the blurb is factually correct in stating that the court has issued a warrant. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121200100-104.171.53.110-20241121193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a>: would you be amenable to adding the phrase "allegedly killed" or something similar next to Deif's name for clarity (so it'd read "allegedly killed Hamas leader Mohammed Deif")? <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241122074800-Modest_Genius-20241121200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The claims of Deif's death are weaker than our article suggests. Further phrasing appears unwarranted. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122091900-Dantheanimator-20241122074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a>, makes sense but I think the claims could still add important context (e.g. the fact that there are legitimate questions regarding his death suggests he is missing/hiding and thus the warrant won't have any immediate effects on him, unlike Bibi & Gallant who have generally been going about their lives). I'm open to other phrasing but I still think it's an important thing to add for context/clarity. Usually also the blurb is supposed to based on the article and the article in this case talks more about the warrant's effects on Israeli officials so I think it's helpful to readers to reflect this dynamic/disequilibrium in impact in the blurb. Open to other ideas though and thanks for the reply, <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241122163700-Gotitbro-20241122091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I think this is too much detail to get into for a blurb. A warrant was issued and the relevant part of the article explains the ICC's reasoning for issuing the warrant for Deif. If you have reliable sources that discuss the practical effects of the warrants, I would suggest adding to the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122174400-Dantheanimator-20241122163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Fair enough. I still think adding two words to some effect would be rather helpful but I don't feel too strongly about it so it's alright. Many thanks for the replies! :) <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241123043900-Patar_knight-20241122174400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning-November_21-20241121122500">(Closed) 2024 Laos methanol poisoning</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: (Closed) 2024 Laos methanol poisoning">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241121215300-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="Talk:2024 Laos methanol poisoning">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning">tag</a>) Blurb: Four tourists are dead and ten others injured from a suspected <a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">methanol poisoning in Laos</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-teen-dies-after-suspected-methanol-poisoning-in-laos-20241121-p5kskc.html">The Age</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/21/laos-methanol-poisoning-deaths-vang-vieng-holly-bowles-bianca-jones-hospitalisation-ntwnfb">Guardian</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GMH_Melbourne&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Sources ok, size ok. Terrible event. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241121124100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Oppose Terrible event, yes, but there's not a high number of fatalities, and the fact that they are tourists does not make it more notorious or more special.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241121125600-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note that unfortunately the death toll is likely to rise as there are a number of people on life support. <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121130300-Alsoriano97-20241121125600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose Seems like mostly a small domestic crime issue (if it was an intended crime), and given the number of <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">List of methanol poisoning incidents</a>, such events are not uncommon around the world. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121130700-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose Clearly an isolated domestic crime/food safety incident with limited effect.<a href="/wiki/User:%E5%BB%A3%E4%B9%9D%E7%9B%B4%E9%80%9A%E8%BB%8A" title="User:廣九直通車">廣九直通車</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E5%BB%A3%E4%B9%9D%E7%9B%B4%E9%80%9A%E8%BB%8A" title="User talk:廣九直通車">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-廣九直通車-20241121134400-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note also, that there are victims in Australia, New Zealand, the US, Denmark, UK, and Laos, with the news being reported by organisations around the world. <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121134800-廣九直通車-20241121134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose Unfortunate event but death toll is low and seems to be more of a local news event. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121141300-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Oppose on notability. This seems to be an incident of food poisoning the likes of which we've seen numerous times and are likely to see again. Not nearly as widespread or otherwise impactful as a contamination event should be to get posted; this seems to be restricted to a single hotel in Vang Vieng. Weak oppose on quality at the moment. Also, this nomination may be stale as the fatalities happened on 13 November, and this is likely to roll off the news cycle and ITN as a whole before notability gets demonstrated and quality improves. The oldest blurb is <a href="/wiki/Justin_Welby" title="Justin Welby">Justin Welby</a>'s resignation from 12 November. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121142100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. Tragic event, but accidents that cause four fatalities are sadly quite common. Even methanol poisoning isn't that unusual, see <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">list of methanol poisoning incidents</a> - and those are just the incidents that received media coverage and editor attention. The nationality of the victims has attracted media attention, but shouldn't affect our judgement of significance. I see no reason to treat this any differently than a traffic collision that caused four deaths, which would never be an ITN blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121152100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose routine accident/crime. not ITN worthy despite the tragedy. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121160600-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose The page <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">List of methanol poisoning incidents</a> shows that moonshine deaths are far from unusual in the developing world. There were 65 in one batch in India just this June <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Tamil_Nadu_alcohol_poisoning">[7]</a>. News websites and TV have an odd habit of exaggerating the attention they give to events when their own citizens die in incidents abroad. For example, this Guardian piece <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/24/british-woman-among-three-dead-as-south-of-france-hit-by-severe-flooding">"British woman among three dead as south of France hit by severe flooding"</a>; as if British news would report on three people dying in a French flood in any other way. We shouldn't be copying that kind of journalism. It kind of reminds me of this <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNVj59B_sLE">[8]</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Unknown_Temptation&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Unknown Temptation (page does not exist)">Unknown Temptation</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unknown_Temptation" title="User talk:Unknown Temptation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unknown_Temptation-20241121192500-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ironically that Guardian article is from <a href="/wiki/Agence_France-Presse" title="Agence France-Presse">Agence France-Presse</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121193000-Unknown_Temptation-20241121192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. 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Union">Europe</a>, including 2,900 in <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>, citing economic instability and conflicts with <a href="/wiki/Environmental_law" title="Environmental law">environmental regulations</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newsweek.com/ford-european-job-cuts-eletric-vehicle-market-1989024">(Newsweek)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/November_2024_Northeast_Pacific_bomb_cyclone" title="November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone">November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone</a> <ul><li>Two people are killed and more than 570,000 people are <a href="/wiki/Power_outage" title="Power outage">without power</a> when a <a href="/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis" title="Explosive cyclogenesis">bomb cyclone</a> makes landfall over the <a href="/wiki/West_Coast_of_the_United_States" title="West Coast of the United States">West Coast</a> of the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> and <a href="/wiki/British_Columbia" title="British Columbia">British Columbia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/20/weather/bomb-cylone-west-coast-washington-climate/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/winter-weather/bomb-cyclone-pacific-northwest-rcna180941">(NBC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Russia" title="Government of Russia">Russian government</a> denies accusations made by European governments of their involvement in sabotaging two <a href="/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable" title="Submarine communications cable">submarine telecommunications cables</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Baltic_Sea" title="Baltic Sea">Baltic Sea</a> as a means of <a href="/wiki/Hybrid_warfare" title="Hybrid warfare">hybrid warfare</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/russia-denies-cutting-baltic-sea-cables-as-tensions-rise/a-70832595">(DW)</a></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy" title="Royal Danish Navy">Royal Danish Navy</a> boards the <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">Chinese</a> <a href="/wiki/Cargo_ship" title="Cargo ship">cargo ship</a> Yi Peng 3 in the <a href="/wiki/Baltic_Sea" title="Baltic Sea">Baltic Sea</a> after the ship is suspected to be involved in the <a href="/wiki/Sabotage" title="Sabotage">sabotage</a> of the submarine cables. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/11/20/the-danish-navy-boarded-a-chinese-cargo-ship-who-broke-the-cables-at-the-bottom-of-the-baltic-sea">(EurAsia Daily)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Indonesia" title="Capital punishment in Indonesia">Capital punishment in Indonesia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Philippines" title="President of the Philippines">Philippine President</a> <a href="/wiki/Bongbong_Marcos" title="Bongbong Marcos">Bongbong Marcos</a> confirms the return of <a href="/wiki/Mary_Jane_Veloso" title="Mary Jane Veloso">Mary Jane Veloso</a> to the <a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">Philippines</a> following 14 years on <a href="/wiki/Death_row" title="Death row">death row</a> in <a href="/wiki/Indonesia" title="Indonesia">Indonesia</a>, after the <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Indonesia" title="Government of Indonesia">Indonesian government</a> implemented a policy for the <a href="/wiki/Repatriation" title="Repatriation">repatriation</a> of foreign prisoners. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3287274/indonesia-agrees-return-filipino-death-row-inmate-mary-jane-veloso-philippines">(South China Morning Post)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/India" title="India">Indian</a> billionaire and <a href="/wiki/Adani_Group" title="Adani Group">Adani Group</a> chairman <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> is indicted in the <a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">U.S.</a> for his role in an alleged multi-billion dollar <a href="/wiki/Bribery" title="Bribery">bribery</a> and <a href="/wiki/Fraud" title="Fraud">fraud</a> scheme where he and seven others paid <a href="/wiki/Government_of_India" title="Government of India">Indian government</a> officials <a href="/wiki/US$" class="mw-redirect" title="US$">US$</a>265 million to obtain contracts for <a href="/wiki/Adani_Green_Energy" title="Adani Green Energy">Adani Green Energy</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.asiaone.com/world/billionaire-gautam-adani-indias-adani-group-charged-us-bribery-fraud">(AsiaOne)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/us-prosecutors-indict-gautam-adani-on-bribery-charges">(Bloomberg)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> designates <a href="/wiki/Yemen" title="Yemen">Yemen</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Houthi_movement" title="Houthi movement">Houthi movement</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> as <a href="/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups" title="List of designated terrorist groups">terrorist groups</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-zealand-designates-houthis-and-entirety-of-hezbollah-as-terror-organizations/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_farmers%27_protests" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests">2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom" title="Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom">Deputy Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Angela_Rayner" title="Angela Rayner">Angela Rayner</a> dismisses concerns brought on by protests in <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a> from <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Agriculture in the United Kingdom">United Kingdom farmers</a> against new agricultural inheritance taxation policies as "<a href="/wiki/Fearmongering" title="Fearmongering">scaremongering</a>". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/trump-wins-uk-reaction-starmer-labour-badenoch-tories-politics-live-12593360">(Sky News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mali_War" title="Mali War">Mali War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Malian</a> <a href="/wiki/Military_junta" title="Military junta">junta</a> chief <a href="/wiki/Assimi_Go%C3%AFta" title="Assimi Goïta">Assimi Goïta</a> dismisses <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Mali" class="mw-redirect" title="Prime Minister of Mali">Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Choguel_Kokalla_Ma%C3%AFga" title="Choguel Kokalla Maïga">Choguel Kokalla Maïga</a> for criticizing the junta government's decision to indefinitely postpone a return to civilian rule. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/mali-junta-chief-sacks-prime-minister/a-70837908">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Protests_against_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Protests against the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Protests against the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li>Around 1,671 <a href="/wiki/Anti-war_movement" title="Anti-war movement">anti-war</a> protesters in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">Belarus</a> are arrested for showing solidarity with <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> as part of a crackdown on <a href="/wiki/Belarusian_opposition" title="Belarusian opposition">opposition</a> under <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/belarus-lukashenko-ukraine-war-russia-crackdown-2d517139f969c07210faa9d1f2d2c99b">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Iraq" title="Iraq">Iraq</a> imposes a two-day nationwide <a href="/wiki/Curfew" title="Curfew">curfew</a> as it conducts its first national <a href="/wiki/Census" title="Census">census</a> since 1987. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/iraq-conducts-first-national-census-in-nearly-40-years">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck-November_20-20241122101100">RD: Ursula Haverbeck</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: RD: Ursula Haverbeck">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Ursula_Haverbeck" title="Ursula Haverbeck">Ursula Haverbeck</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Ursula_Haverbeck" title="Talk:Ursula Haverbeck">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ursula_Haverbeck&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ursula_Haverbeck&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/germany-holocaust-denial-ursula-haverbeck-dead-461e77b20a5453eb40973ab11de897e9">AP</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-inveterate-holocaust-denier-haverbeck-dies-at-96/a-70840940">DW</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jta.org/2024/11/22/global/ursula-haverbeck-infamous-german-holocaust-denier-known-as-nazi-grandma-dies-at-96">JTA</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Count_Iblis" title="User:Count Iblis">Count Iblis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Count_Iblis" title="User talk:Count Iblis">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Count_Iblis&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BUrsula+Haverbeck%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheHippo0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheHippo0 (page does not exist)">TheHippo0</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHippo0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TheHippo0 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHippo0&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BUrsula+Haverbeck%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div> <a href="/wiki/User:Count_Iblis" title="User:Count Iblis">Count Iblis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Count_Iblis" title="User talk:Count Iblis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Count_Iblis-20241122101100-RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment Its difficult to find sources for the statements of Haverbeck, because Holocaust denial is illegal in several countries. Impossible to post in RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241123150600-Count_Iblis-20241122101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_RD:_John_Prescott" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_RD:_John_Prescott-November_20-20241121074800">(Ready) RD: John Prescott</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: (Ready) RD: John Prescott">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/John_Prescott" title="John Prescott">John Prescott</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Prescott" title="Talk:John Prescott">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Prescott&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Prescott&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Prescott">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce9gp7eke44t">BBC</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Amakuru&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Prescott%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Prescott&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Former deputy PM of the UK. A few additional sources needed but it's not in terrible shape. — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Amakuru-20241121074800-(Ready)_RD:_John_Prescott" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Lead paragraph has a citation needed flag, otherwise article is in overall good quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Tofusaurus" title="User:Tofusaurus">Tofusaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tofusaurus" title="User talk:Tofusaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Tofusaurus-20241121125100-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Slow day, huh? <s>Weak oppose - updated for the death but has a few CN tags - there's another in the article's body on a negative claim about Prescott that really should be sourced or removed. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121153600-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support I've cleaned up the tags and added a few extra cites. Well written and sourced now for the man they called "Two Jags". <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241121155100-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support. The article is extensive and has a lot of citations, but it's very dry prose and hardly a riveting read. There are classic <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROSELINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROSELINE">WP:PROSELINE</a> problems, a lack of images, and it often (particularly in the 'life after parliament section) feels like a random collection of factoids rather than a coherent biography. Still, those are stylistic issues that don't actually violate our criteria. Could do better, but good enough to post. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121193400-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. In good enough enough shape, despite stylistic concerns. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20241121194200-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support The article is good enough, except the one yellow tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241122000300-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support article isn't perfect but I think it is good enough. David Palmer//<a href="/wiki/User:Cloventt" title="User:Cloventt">cloventt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cloventt" title="User talk:Cloventt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cloventt-20241122004300-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li><s>Oppose I've added a few more CN TAGS because there are numerous unsourced lines. The article is not perfect, but it should be close. It is not ready to be posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122130400-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li>Support There is still a CN TAG to be fixed, but it does not prevent from being posted. Avanti. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122140100-Alsoriano97-20241122130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose till [citation needed] are <s>not</s> fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122132500-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support, per <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">Alsoriano97</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a>, who are now glad that they too can offer their fulsome support for this {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cn">cn</a>}}-less article. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122134600-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Marking this as ready and changing my vote per above. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122134900-Serial_Number_54129-20241122134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> looks to be ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151400-Departure–-20241122134900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_19" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_19-20241119055800">November 19</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: November 19">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 19">Portal:Current events/2024 November 19</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 19" id="2024_November_19" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 19, 2024 (2024-11-19) (Tuesday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War" title="List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War">Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li>U.S. President Joe Biden approves of sending non-persistent <a href="/wiki/Anti-personnel_mine" title="Anti-personnel mine">anti-personnel mines</a> to Ukraine, with Ukraine committing to not use them in areas with civilians. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/ukraine-to-get-us-land-mines-for-use-against-russian-forces-reports">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> and <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a> both prepare new military packages containing <a href="/wiki/Storm_Shadow" title="Storm Shadow">long-range missiles</a> to send to Ukraine following <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">United States President</a> <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a>'s decision to allow deep strikes into Russian territory using <a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">American</a> weapons. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-missiles-joe-biden-1988037?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1732016216">(Newsweek)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Attacks_in_Russia_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> launches <a href="/wiki/ATACMS" title="ATACMS">ATACMS</a> <a href="/wiki/Ballistic_missile" title="Ballistic missile">ballistic missiles</a> at targets in <a href="/wiki/Bryansk_Oblast" title="Bryansk Oblast">Bryansk Oblast</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>, according to the <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_(Russia)" title="Ministry of Defence (Russia)">Russian Defence Ministry</a>. It is the first time that Ukraine has used the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">American</a>-supplied missiles to strike targets inside Russia. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mzjm7knw7o">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Nuclear_risk_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction" title="Russia and weapons of mass destruction">Russia and weapons of mass destruction</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> signs a <a href="/wiki/Decree_of_the_President_of_Russia" title="Decree of the President of Russia">decree</a> that allows Russia to use <a href="/wiki/Nuclear_weapon" title="Nuclear weapon">nuclear weapons</a> in response to <a href="/wiki/Conventional_weapon" title="Conventional weapon">conventional</a> attacks by a non-nuclear state supported by a <a href="/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons" title="List of states with nuclear weapons">nuclear power</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-issues-warning-us-with-new-nuclear-doctrine-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li>Three <a href="/wiki/Lebanese_Armed_Forces" title="Lebanese Armed Forces">Lebanese soldiers</a> are killed and 17 other people are injured in an <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> airstrike in <a href="/wiki/Sarafand,_Lebanon" title="Sarafand, Lebanon">Sarafand</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/israeli-attack-kills-three-more-lebanese-soldiers-as-death-toll-passes-forty">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/beirut-says-3-lebanese-soldiers-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-in-south/">(Times of Israel)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Haitian_crisis_(2018%E2%80%93present)" title="Haitian crisis (2018–present)">Haitian crisis</a> <ul><li>Twenty-eight suspected gang members are killed by police and residents in <a href="/wiki/P%C3%A9tion-Ville" title="Pétion-Ville">Pétion-Ville</a>, <a href="/wiki/Port-au-Prince" title="Port-au-Prince">Port-au-Prince</a>, <a href="/wiki/Haiti" title="Haiti">Haiti</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/haitian-authorities-say-28-alleged-gang-members-killed-by-police-residents">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/2024/11/20/haiti-police-civilians-kill-28-gang-members-say-authorities/">(The Jamaica Observer)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Doctors_Without_Borders" class="mw-redirect" title="Doctors Without Borders">Doctors Without Borders</a> announces it will suspend operations in Port-au-Prince indefinitely following <a href="/wiki/Rape_threat" title="Rape threat">rape</a> and <a href="/wiki/Death_threat" title="Death threat">death threats</a> from <a href="/wiki/Haitian_National_Police" title="Haitian National Police">Haitian police</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/haiti-doctors-without-borders-halts-work-in-port-au-prince/a-70826801">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> <ul><li>Twelve <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Army" title="Pakistan Army">soldiers</a> are killed and others are wounded after a <a href="/wiki/Suicide_attack" title="Suicide attack">suicide</a> <a href="/wiki/Car_bomb" title="Car bomb">car bombing</a> targeting a security post in <a href="/wiki/Bannu" title="Bannu">Bannu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>. Six <a href="/wiki/Hafiz_Gul_Bahadur_Group" title="Hafiz Gul Bahadur Group">Hafiz Gul Bahadur Group</a> gunmen are killed in the ensuing <a href="/wiki/Shootout" title="Shootout">shootout</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-suicide-bombing-security-forces-killed-f17f4521de40a27e3ebf76ccf15d58ec">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Boeing_machinists_strike" title="2024 Boeing machinists strike">2024 Boeing machinists strike</a> <ul><li>American <a href="/wiki/Aerospace_manufacturer" title="Aerospace manufacturer">aerospace company</a> <a href="/wiki/Boeing" title="Boeing">Boeing</a> announces it will <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">layoff</a> 17,000 workers by the end of 2024, 10% of its global workforce, due to financial difficulties following the <a href="/wiki/2024_Boeing_machinists_strike" title="2024 Boeing machinists strike">machinists strike</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.assemblymag.com/articles/98910-boeing-to-lay-off-17-000-workers-amid-financial-struggles">(Assembly Magazine)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wafb.com/2024/11/20/boeing-cut-nearly-20000-employees-before-christmas/">(WAFB9)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_pro-democracy_primaries" title="2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries">2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">Hong Kong 47</a> <ul><li>Forty-five <a href="/wiki/Pro-democracy_camp" class="mw-redirect" title="Pro-democracy camp">pro-democracy</a> activists in <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong" title="Hong Kong">Hong Kong</a> are sentenced to prison terms of between four and 10 years over an unofficial primary held in 2020. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hundreds-queue-sentencing-47-hong-kong-democrats-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Brazilian_election_protests" title="2022–2023 Brazilian election protests">2022–2023 Brazilian election protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Federal_Police_of_Brazil" title="Federal Police of Brazil">Brazilian Federal Police</a> arrest five people, including four <a href="/wiki/G20" title="G20">G20</a> security guards, for their alleged involvement in a plot to <a href="/wiki/Assassinate" class="mw-redirect" title="Assassinate">assassinate</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Lula_da_Silva" class="mw-redirect" title="Lula da Silva">Lula da Silva</a> and <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Brazil" title="Vice President of Brazil">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Geraldo_Alckmin" title="Geraldo Alckmin">Geraldo Alckmin</a> following the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_general_election" title="2022 Brazilian general election">general election</a> in 2022. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/brazil-arrests-five-suspects-in-alleged-lula-assassination-plot">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Tunisian_Armed_Forces#Navy" title="Tunisian Armed Forces">Tunisian coast guard</a> announces that on the night of November 8, a patrol boat rammed and sank a boat carrying migrants on its coasts, killing 53 people. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fanpage.it/politica/la-guardia-costiera-tunisina-sperona-e-uccide-52-migranti-mio-cugino-musa-e-uno-dei-minori-annegati-quella-notte/">(Fanpage)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2023%E2%80%932024_Georgian_protests" title="2023–2024 Georgian protests">2023–2024 Georgian protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Georgia_(country)" title="Law enforcement in Georgia (country)">Georgian police</a> reportedly break up <a href="/wiki/Occupy_movement" title="Occupy movement">tent camps</a> while beating and detaining protesters in <a href="/wiki/Tbilisi" title="Tbilisi">Tbilisi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Georgia_(country)" title="Georgia (country)">Georgia</a>, demonstrating against the allegedly <a href="/wiki/Electoral_fraud" title="Electoral fraud">rigged</a> <a href="/wiki/2024_Georgian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Georgian parliamentary election">parliamentary election</a> in October. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/georgia-police-break-up-election-protest-camp/a-70817930">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Abkhazian_protests" title="2024 Abkhazian protests">2024 Abkhazian protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Abkhazia" title="Abkhazia">Abkhazian</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Abkhazia" title="President of Abkhazia">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Aslan_Bzhania" title="Aslan Bzhania">Aslan Bzhania</a> <a href="/wiki/Resigns" class="mw-redirect" title="Resigns">resigns</a> following negotiations with the opposition and is succeeded by <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Abkhazia" title="Vice President of Abkhazia">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Badra_Gunba" title="Badra Gunba">Badra Gunba</a> as <a href="/wiki/Acting_(law)" title="Acting (law)">acting</a> president. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abkhazworld.com/aw/current-affairs/2878-president-aslan-bzhania-agrees-to-resign-after-eight-hour-negotiations">(Abkhaz World)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/leader-breakaway-georgian-region-resigns-russias-interfax-reports-2024-11-18/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_farmers%27_protests" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests">2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests</a> <ul><li>Thousands of <a href="/wiki/British_people" title="British people">British</a> <a href="/wiki/Farmer" title="Farmer">farmers</a> protest at the <a href="/wiki/Houses_of_Parliament" class="mw-redirect" title="Houses of Parliament">Houses of Parliament</a> in <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a>, against a new <a href="/wiki/Inheritance_tax" title="Inheritance tax">inheritance tax</a> on <a href="/wiki/Land_ownership" class="mw-redirect" title="Land ownership">land ownership</a> that includes <a href="/wiki/Farm" title="Farm">farms</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/british-farmers-protest-against-tractor-tax-on-inheritance">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj71zyy934o">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election" title="2024 Venezuelan presidential election">2024 Venezuelan presidential election</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations" title="United States–Venezuela relations">United States–Venezuela relations</a> <ul><li>The United States announces it recognizes <a href="/wiki/Venezuela" title="Venezuela">Venezuelan</a> <a href="/wiki/Venezuelan_opposition" title="Venezuelan opposition">opposition leader</a> <a href="/wiki/Edmundo_Gonz%C3%A1lez" title="Edmundo González">Edmundo González</a> as the <a href="/wiki/President_of_Venezuela" title="President of Venezuela">President-elect</a> following the presidential election in July. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/us-recognises-venezuelan-opposition-leader-gonzalez-as-president-elect">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> <ul><li>Over 40,000 people gather in front of the <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> <a href="/wiki/Parliament_House,_Wellington" title="Parliament House, Wellington">Parliament House</a> in <a href="/wiki/Wellington" title="Wellington">Wellington</a> to protest against the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">Treaty Principles Bill</a> that would change <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people" title="Māori people">Māori people</a>'s rights, making it one of the largest protests in the country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/new-zealand-42000-demonstrate-support-for-maori-rights/a-70816454">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/SpaceX" title="SpaceX">SpaceX</a> <a href="/wiki/Starship_flight_test_6" title="Starship flight test 6">launches</a> their sixth <a href="/wiki/SpaceX_Starship" title="SpaceX Starship">Starship</a> rocket at the <a href="/wiki/Boca_Chica_(Texas)" title="Boca Chica (Texas)">Boca Chica</a> <a href="/wiki/SpaceX_Starbase" title="SpaceX Starbase">launch pad</a> in <a href="/wiki/Brownsville,_Texas" title="Brownsville, Texas">Brownsville</a>, <a href="/wiki/Texas" title="Texas">Texas</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">U.S</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/science/spacex-launches-sixth-starship-rocket-texas-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Somaliland_presidential_election-November_19-20241122054800">2024 Somaliland presidential election</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: 2024 Somaliland presidential election">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 123px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/123px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="123" height="159" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/185px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/246px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="271" data-file-height="351"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">2024 Somaliland presidential election</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="Talk:2024 Somaliland presidential election">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Somaliland_presidential_election&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Somaliland_presidential_election&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Somaliland+presidential+election">tag</a>) Blurb: Opposition candidate <a href="/wiki/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi" title="Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi">Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi</a> "Irro" (pictured) is confirmed to have won the <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">2024 Somaliland presidential election</a>, beating incumbent <a href="/wiki/President_of_Somaliland" title="President of Somaliland">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Muse_Bihi_Abdi" title="Muse Bihi Abdi">Muse Bihi Abdi</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi" title="Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi">Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi</a> is <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">elected</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Somaliland" title="President of Somaliland">President of Somaliland</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvzxg3n3dmo">[9]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/somaliland-opposition-leader-abdirahman-cirro-wins-election-garowe-online-2024-11-19/">[10]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/oppositions-abdullahi-wins-presidential-election-in-breakaway-somaliland">[11]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Created and nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Somaliland+presidential+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Somaliland+presidential+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=created+and+nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Subayerboombastic-20241122054800-2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Comment: Somaliland is not fully internationally recognized as a sovereign state. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122071800-2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Nor is Taiwan, but both are de facto independent and functioning democracies. I'm undecided whether that is sufficient to post, but it certainly isn't a clear-cut case. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241122121100-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The argument for posting about elections in the Republic of China is entirely different than posting about elections in breakaway separatist republics. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122162600-Modest_Genius-20241122121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Taiwan is much more recognized than Somaliland though. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241123134200-Modest_Genius-20241122121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Oppose we don't post election results for unrecognized states like Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia (<a href="/wiki/2024_Abkhazian_protests" title="2024 Abkhazian protests">whose government was toppled 3 days ago</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122162500-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a>: Apples and pears, Somaliland isn't a puppet state propped up by a globe-threatening dictatorship. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151700-Scu_ba-20241122162500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support ITN has posted election results <s>from the SADR</s> (Seems I misremembered? Regardless, the distinction for which nation we deem fine and not is quite arbitrary. Somaliland functions as a state with its own independent elections, it is not a micronation or an autonomous region in its current de facto state) and even subnational entities so I would say this is fine. I'm glad someone was able to nominate this, I intended to originally regardless. A change in government too, which is notable. The article looks fine to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Ornithoptera" title="User:Ornithoptera">Ornithoptera</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ornithoptera" title="User talk:Ornithoptera">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ornithoptera-20241122175900-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Comment: For the record, the <a href="/wiki/2021_Somaliland_parliamentary_election" title="2021 Somaliland parliamentary election">2021 Somaliland parliamentary election</a> was not only nominated but also made it to the very top of the front page <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/June_2021">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/June_2021</a> check June 6. Yes Somaliland is Unrecognized, but it is a fully functioning democracy same as Taiwan. In the past its articles have been featured and now should be no different. Somaliland is a free standing de facto state and articles from less independent states have been featured before, such as North Cyprus. Main point being there is precedent from their election in 2021 that they can be featured so I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Subayerboombastic-20241122182800-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support Not ITNR, but there is also is no hard rule against posting. We have posted Somaliland election results before. This one is particularly notable because it represents a major change - such a major change, in fact, that there are articles in reputable sources saying <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/politics/trump-somaliland-new-country-gavin-williamson-b2648376.html">it may lead to Donald Trump's administration recognizing Somaliland as a state</a>. All in all, it is drumming up news coverage and has broader ramifications in international geopolitics. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122224000-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per above, and propose altblurb. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241123035800-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. We look at unrecognized states on a case by case basis. They are not automatically bound. Here it looks like it has geopolitical considerations as well as being a change of a longtime governing party. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241123043400-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Somaliland is a de facto long-standing independent state just like any other, the only exception is that other countries have no interest in recognising them (in some cases it would be against their own interest to do so). Unlike some other examples, it's not a puppet state nor just some rogue separatists controlling a territory. The closest example would be Taiwan, although the geo-political situation and involvement of world powers is very different. I would even propose to make it ITN/R. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123152700-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman-November_19-20241122032000">(Posted) RD: Diane Coleman</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Diane Coleman">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Diane_Coleman" title="Diane Coleman">Diane Coleman</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Diane_Coleman" title="Talk:Diane Coleman">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diane_Coleman&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Diane_Coleman&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Diane+Coleman">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/diane-coleman-dead.html">New York Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TJMSmith&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDiane+Coleman%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Diane+Coleman&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American lawyer and disability rights advocate. Died on Nov 1. First reported November 19 here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ncd.gov/2024/11/19/ncd-remembers-diane-coleman/">National Council on Disablity 2024</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TJMSmith-20241122032000-(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Looks ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241122173300-TJMSmith-20241122032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123070500-TJMSmith-20241122032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident-November_19-20241121005000">(Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: (Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-abovebelow" style="padding: 0;"> NON-ADMIN CLOSURE</div> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Nominator withdrew nomination <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121034700-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Transatlantic cables incident">Transatlantic cables incident</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Talk:Transatlantic cables incident">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transatlantic_cables_incident&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Transatlantic_cables_incident&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Transatlantic+cables+incident">tag</a>) Blurb: The <a href="/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy" title="Royal Danish Navy">Royal Danish Navy</a> detains a <a href="/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China" class="mw-redirect" title="People's Republic of China">Chinese</a> vessel in the <a href="/wiki/Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Transatlantic cables incident">first enforcement action since 1959</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Submarine_Telegraph_Cables" title="Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables">Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/chinese-registered-ship-is-held-in-baltic-sea-sabotage-investigation-27929472">[12]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chetsford&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BTransatlantic+cables+incident%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Transatlantic+cables+incident&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div> Nominator's comment: I threw this article on the 1959 incident together a few minutes ago after news of the Danish intervention broke; I believe it's in good shape but apologies for any errors or omissions due to haste <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20241121005000-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Strong oppose for now - the target should be <a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> or ideally <a href="/wiki/Yi_Peng_3" title="Yi Peng 3">Yi Peng 3</a>, the ship detained. If something is conclusively proven and charged in a court of law or any escalations or developments to any of the numerous wars going on worldwide come of this, maybe I'll support, but for now it's equivalent to a marginally important arrest of a private individual and therefore not ITN-worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121010800-Chetsford-20241121005000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Withdraw as nom My apologies, I wasn't aware we had a <a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> article at all. Thanks to <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> for pointing this out. <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20241121011000-Chetsford-20241121005000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Tony_Campolo" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Tony_Campolo-November_19-20241120085200">RD: Tony Campolo</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: RD: Tony Campolo">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Tony_Campolo" title="Tony Campolo">Tony Campolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Tony_Campolo" title="Talk:Tony Campolo">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Campolo&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tony_Campolo&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Tony+Campolo">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tony-campolo-sociologist-and-famed-red-letter-christian-has-died/ar-AA1uoGja">MSN</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BTony+Campolo%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Tony+Campolo&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American sociologist and Baptist pastor. <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200-RD:_Tony_Campolo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Article looks good. No obvious gaps in references; If anyone observes any gaps, please point them out and we can get them addressed. <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241120143300-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li><s>Oppose</s> for now. there is a quote that needs a citation, but the article is otherwise in good shape. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241120211200-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>What specifically is the concern you allude to? <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241120220100-HistoryTheorist-20241120211200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There is like two sentences thats uncited in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120223400-KConWiki-20241120220100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd>Support Article looks good. Except for like two sentences all other sections are cited well. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120223700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: If people with concerns about missing citations can put up CN tags or give which specific areas are of concern, I will be happy to attempt to resolve them. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241121000700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks. I have had some issues with power outages and thus lack of reliable internet, so I will do that. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241122050900-KConWiki-20241121000700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support Not the strongest of supports because there is still some referencing work I would like to see happen, but not a dealbreaker for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241123044000-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>A whole load of unreferenced works. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123070300-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah, typically would want ISBNs or similar or citations. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241123135900-Stephen-20241123070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>I will work on ISBNs today - <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241123143500-Stephen-20241123070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Decision_needed)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Decision_needed)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti-November_19-20241119164000">(Decision needed) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: (Decision needed) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 162px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/162px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg" decoding="async" width="162" height="122" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/243px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/324px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Talk:Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> arrives at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Parliament_of_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Parliament of New Zealand">Parliament</a> with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_rights" class="mw-redirect" title="Māori rights">Māori rights</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> (pictured) arrives as the largest protest in the country's history at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand_Parliament" title="New Zealand Parliament">New Zealand's Parliament</a>, protesting <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">the bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_protest_movement" title="Māori protest movement">Māori rights</a>. Alternative blurb II: New Zealand witnesses the <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">largest protest</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reinterpret the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a>. Alternative blurb III: New Zealand witnesses the <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">largest protest</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reform the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a>. Alternative blurb IV: New Zealand witnesses <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">one of the largest protests</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reform the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/11/19/national-hikoi-heads-to-parliament-what-to-expect-today/">1news.co.nz</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Serial_Number_54129" title="User:Serial Number 54129">Serial Number 54129</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Serial_Number_54129&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheLoyalOrder&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <ul><li>Small country not used to seeing large marches, first nation issues, covered internationally and with long term effects. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000-(Decision_needed)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment The protest has broad support by <a href="/wiki/P%C4%81keh%C4%81" title="Pākehā">Pākehā</a> (non-Māori), hence the blurb isn't quite right. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241119181800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede66</a>, blurb now tweaked. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119185900-Schwede66-20241119181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sorry, I still don't like the blurb and have posted an altblurb for consideration. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120044400-Serial_Number_54129-20241119185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support - Massive international coverage, largest protests in New Zealand for a long time. <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20241119190700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Suppport, though the blurb is inaccurate, proponents of the bill also argue it will redefine the principles, that's the point of the legislation. <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241119194600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a>: Tweaked. Note it was taken directly from your original lead ;) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119204700-TheLoyalOrder-20241119194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support Per above <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119194700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support Plenty of coverage and it's a nationwide protest with over 30,000 in attendance in Wellington alone after all. The lede could be expanded, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119201900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Lead expanded. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119204700-Departure–-20241119201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose as stale. These protests began on 10 November, and it has been 9 days since then. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk">(nest)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The protests are in their final day as they reach Wellington and Parliament today. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119215000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a>: Hello. The marches stated nine days ago relatively small. They garnered very little attention then, naturally, because of their size. This is the climax. ITN shows the Oscars, not the date the invites go out. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119223000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment Maybe put <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">occurs across New Zealand</q> earlier, followed by <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">against ....</q> <a href="/wiki/User:Kowal2701" title="User:Kowal2701">Kowal2701</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kowal2701" title="User talk:Kowal2701">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kowal2701-20241119215700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>occurs across New Zealand is a bit too broad, the hikoi started in Auckland and made its way down to Wellington. This all happened in the North Island, maybe occurs in major cities in the North Island of New Zealand <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119234200-Kowal2701-20241119215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not true. The marches started in various places, in both the North and South islands. They all came together in Wellington. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120085300-Rynoip-20241119234200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Clarified N. Island. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241120004100-Kowal2701-20241119215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>could do something like: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> arrives at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Parliament_of_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Parliament of New Zealand">Parliament</a> with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori" class="mw-disambig" title="Māori">Māori</a> rights <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241120005200-Serial_Number_54129-20241120004100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support Article is of sufficient quality and notability for ITN. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241120005300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. Fairly minor in scope as far as protests go. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsk92" title="User:Nsk92">Nsk92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsk92" title="User talk:Nsk92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nsk92-20241120011000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>its one of the biggest (possibly the biggest) protests in New Zealand history <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241120013100-Nsk92-20241120011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Oppsee Relatively peaceful compared to other protests, nor yet to shown as impactful (eg like the past India's farmer strike that actually impacted commerce in the country). --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120011600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Protests don't have to be violent to be meaningful and impactful. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195300-Masem-20241120011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There are protests nearly happening every day around the world. We have no room to cover them all, so we need to look at scale and impact. This specific protest lack either (particularly after it appear no laws will be changed) <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120200500-AusLondonder-20241120195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Support the hīkoi is seven times the size of the notable 1975 Land March led by Dame Whina Cooper. Videos of MP Hana-Rwhiti Maipi-Clarke's haka in Parliament on the 14th, relevant to the hīkoi and the Treaty Priniciples Bill are already viral and in global news cycles. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ladygeekiness&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ladygeekiness (page does not exist)">Ladygeekiness</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ladygeekiness&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ladygeekiness (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ladygeekiness-20241120015300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Link to <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_land_march" title="Māori land march">Māori land march</a> article for context. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120085600-Ladygeekiness-20241120015300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support I disagree it's minor, it has made all major news outlets around the world even in non-anglophone countries, which usually pay very little attention to New Zealand and even less so to Maori issues. The lack of violence should not be a factor on notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241120093300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The barrier for inclusion in major news outlets is extremely low. That should not be used as a judgement of significance, because news reports events big and small. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120130000-Abcmaxx-20241120093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>That applies to domestic news though, if this protest was not notable nor impactful it would not have gathered so much global attention. Plenty of genuinely important news does not get reported either it's a double-edged sword anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241120144900-Masem-20241120130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose It appears that the bill is unlikely to become law anyway and so there’s little impact. Such demonstrations and protests are common — for example, there was a big farmers’ protest in London on this day. This one doesn’t seem sufficiently significant. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241120113000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose A run-of-the-mill, peaceful protest against a bill the NZ government has said it will not back coming into law. No different from the Farmer protests here in the UK at the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241120114000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - Absolutely notable, and rare significant news from that corner of the globe. Comparisons to other countries of course run afoul of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNATA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNATA">WP:ITNATA</a>. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper</a></li> <li>Comment - I'm utterly befuddled by the rationales used to oppose this item so far. One rationale implies that because there wasn't any violence or killing, it isn't notable; another says that because the journey across country took nine days, that it's technically outside the news cycle; and another is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL">speculating</a> that the bill won't become law anyway so there's no point in protesting. Much of this doesn't have any bearing on the actual significance of the item. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper </a>-(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-WaltCip-20241120134500-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support We posted the <a href="/wiki/2023_Australian_Indigenous_Voice_referendum" title="2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum">2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum</a>, this is perhaps even more significant in that it signals a rollback of already agreed upon law and rights. CRYSTALBALLing aside, about whether this may or may not pass, the protests have to be seen in the context of New Zealand politics where these are important (largest ever?) and a significant point in the country's and Maori history. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241120143600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The difference is the referendum was just that, a referendum with 15,739,686 votes. These are protests 82,000 strong (and that's being generous) in a country of 5.22 Million. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120165500-Gotitbro-20241120143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>A meaningless comparison. Voting in a referendum in Australia is compulsory. All the NZ protesters are there by choice. <a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiLo48" title="User talk:HiLo48">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HiLo48-20241121015000-Scu_ba-20241120165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><dl><dd><dl><dd>That's 1.58% then. For comparison, someone above made a curious (and frankly nonsensical) argument that it's the same as a march of 13,000 people out of a population of 65,000,000... or .02% *facepalm* <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">Tight faded male arse. Decadence and anarchy. A certain style.</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Smile.</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241120171300-Scu_ba-20241120165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah that's nonsense, the farmer's protest in the UK shouldn't be posted either and if someone nominates it I will vote oppose there too. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120174400-Serial_Number_54129-20241120171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Oppose protests aren't large enough to warrant posting. Any argument to the contrary is just a pro-Western bias. Comparing these protests to the <a href="/wiki/2024_Armenian_protests" title="2024 Armenian protests">2024 Armenian protests</a> for example, which had 20,000 protesters in a country of 3,000,000, several hundred arrests, and called for a regime change, the verdict of ITN was that it wasn't notable enough to post. These protests are 82,000 in a country of 5,200,000 and are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others.</li></ul> <dl><dd>It would be a heinous double standard if we post this to ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120171700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li><dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">These protests...are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others</q> is a ridiculous and cynical misrepresentation of what the protests are about. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195900-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>So you don't believe that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders</q> nor that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties</q>? Bold of you I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120215000-AusLondonder-20241120195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a>, things are a bit more nuanced than what you make out. Maybe it's best to not argue the finer details that are hard to understand when you don't live here. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121072500-Scu_ba-20241120215000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, I forgot that you have to live in the country that the ITN/C event is taking place in in order to vote on its inclusion. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121161700-Schwede66-20241121072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well your POV is very clear on this one. 13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Secretlondon-20241122132900-Scu_ba-20241121161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>How is it ridiculous and cynical? It is precisely what it is. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120214900-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>82000 in 5200000 is about 1.6% of the country. How is that not large enough to be significant? --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241121040200-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>For comparison, an equivalently-sized protest in the United states would be 5.5 million people. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241121175300-MtPenguinMonster-20241121040200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The <a href="/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March" title="2017 Women's March">2017 Women's March</a> was posted the day after it happened, with an attendance between 3 and roughly 4.5 million. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121180200-Turnagra-20241121175300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>The Armenian protests are neither the largest there, and when seen in context of recent Armenian history, nor unique. 6 protests are registered at <a href="/wiki/Protests_in_Armenia" title="Protests in Armenia">Protests in Armenia</a> in relation to the current PM <a href="/wiki/Nikol_Pashinyan" title="Nikol Pashinyan">Nikol Pashinyan</a> and these were the fourth regular one in the context of the current phase of the <a href="/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict" title="Nagorno-Karabakh conflict">Nagorno-Karabakh conflict</a> (whose last flare-up, <a href="/wiki/2023_Azerbaijani_offensive_in_Nagorno-Karabakh" title="2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh">2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh</a>, we posted); preceded by <a href="/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Armenian_protests" title="2020–2021 Armenian protests">2020–2021 Armenian protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2022_Armenian_protests" title="2022 Armenian protests">2022 Armenian protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2023_Armenian_protests" title="2023 Armenian protests">2023 Armenian protests</a>. I think why these might not be seen as notable is evident.</dd> <dd>Calling the protests, which are against a minor political party's efforts to re-interpret or rather rollback the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a> (already seen as inadequate for <a href="/wiki/Indigenous_rights_in_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Indigenous rights in New Zealand">indigenous rights in New Zealand</a>), preservation of special treatment is rather disingenous. The view that the bill seeks to enable resource exploitation in indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people has more currency than any purported equal treatment of the citizens of New Zealand. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241121082500-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What? Do you not support equal rights for all kiwis? <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people</q> is a bit fake considering the bill is to make all kiwis equal without special rights or privileges. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241121203800-Gotitbro-20241121082500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support largest protest that New Zealand has ever seen and has been covered extensively in major news sources across the world - the event is absolutely notable enough to post. The article itself is extensive and well-sourced, and easily of the quality we would want for a front page feature. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241120172900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support as per other editors. Largest protest in New Zealand's history sounds like something we should post, and it has even made it into German news. Both blurbs are very long however, and a bit arcane. Simpler and shorter blurb proposed. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20241120193200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support It's in the news and has attracted worldwide attention. ITN shouldn't ignore genuine news from smaller countries. Second blurb sounds better but would be open to other suggestions. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121161200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a>. I've developed ALT3 based on your blurb and my previous ALT1. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120204100-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support per @<a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a>, eyes are on New Zealand especially in part due to <a href="/wiki/Hana-Rawhiti_Maipi-Clarke" title="Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke">Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke</a>'s actions. <a href="/wiki/User:TansoShoshen" title="User:TansoShoshen">TansoShoshen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TansoShoshen" title="User talk:TansoShoshen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TansoShoshen-20241121065200-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment I don't think we can call it the "largest protest" in the country's history because The Spinoff source in the article merely estimated it as being the largest, and described the difficulty in knowing for sure. The BBC described it as "one of the biggest" rather than "the biggest", so I think the blurb should reflect this. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Panamitsu" title="User:Panamitsu">Panamitsu</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panamitsu" title="User talk:Panamitsu">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Panamitsu-20241120220900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The largest protests in NZ were about the <a href="/wiki/1981_South_Africa_rugby_union_tour_of_New_Zealand_and_the_United_States#Tour_of_New_Zealand" title="1981 South Africa rugby union tour of New Zealand and the United States">1981 Springbok tour</a> and involved over 150,000 people, which is more than this protest. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/1981-springbok-tour#:~:text=1981%20Springbok%20tour&text=More%20than%20150%2C000%20people%20took,rugby%20team%20(the%20Springboks).">NZ history</a>. And then there were events like the <a href="/wiki/1913_Great_Strike" title="1913 Great Strike">1913 Great Strike</a> when the population was much smaller. What we've got here is hype and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECENTISM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECENTISM">WP:RECENTISM</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800-Panamitsu-20241120220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note that the 150,000 protesters are the sum of the 200 protests in relation to the 1981 Springbok tour. None of them individually were anywhere near as big as the 42,000 people who were protesting in Wellington on Tuesday, as estimated by the Police. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121072100-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If we are going to say that the protest against the treaty is the largest in NZ history, as alt blurbs 2 and 3 do, this needs to be backed up by a claim in the article with a verifiable citation from a reliable source. The article <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> currently cites a writer for The Spinoff who "estimated it was the largest protest Wellington had ever seen, potentially the largest in New Zealand's history." The last part is hedged.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>With this in mind, I would say that: <ul><li>The original blurb, omitting any comparisons, is fine.</li> <li>Alt blurb 1 may be okay but it depends on how you parse it. If you parse it as "largest (protest in the country's history at New Zealand's Parliament)" then it's fine, as The Spinoff makes this exact claim very confidently. If you parse it "(largest protest in the country's history) at New Zealand's Parliament", which I think is the intended and more natural parsing, then it's problematic.</li> <li>Alt blurbs 2 and 3 are not adequately supported by existing sources or the article text, and even though they may be true, verifiability is the most important criterion to judge them by.</li> <li>Alt blurb 4, which uses the wording "one of the largest protests" (mirroring the BBC), is fine.</li> <li>I might also propose something like "New Zealand witnesses the largest protest in its capital's [or: its parliament's] history...". That would be less ambiguously parsed than alt blurb 1.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Note that the issue isn't even just about comparing head counts of a single protest vs. multiple protests aggregated. The article in The Spinoff mentions a possible 2010 protest with 80,000 people in Auckland, and although the author states that the 80K figure is "hard to prove", and even claims that the current protest is "probably" the biggest single-location NZ protest, that uncertainty may be enough of a reason to avoid outright making the claim that alt blurbs 2-3 (and 1 if you parse it the obvious way) do. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241121110400-Schwede66-20241121072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>The protests you mentioned were against <a href="/wiki/Apartheid" title="Apartheid">apartheid</a> in South Africa, which is the single largest political matter in its modern history and which involved widespread international pressure, not just from New Zealand. If that's your comparison point, then I think this protest is doing well for significance. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper </a>-(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-WaltCip-20241121135000-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose Per Masem. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241121053600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Sorry, this is a rather long post. Unlike <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a>, I suggest that this is a rather impactful protest. The situation reminds me of the <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand_foreshore_and_seabed_controversy" title="New Zealand foreshore and seabed controversy">2004 foreshore and seabed situation</a>; when that unfolded, I thought it was a super-big mistake by <a href="/wiki/Helen_Clark" title="Helen Clark">Helen Clark</a>'s Labour government. They did survive the 2005 general election, but the resentment was deep-seated enough that they didn't get through in 2008. This feels much the same; this time for <a href="/wiki/Christopher_Luxon" title="Christopher Luxon">Christopher Luxon</a>'s National government. In August, former PM <a href="/wiki/John_Key" title="John Key">John Key</a> gave the current PM what I felt was <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/national-party-conference-sir-john-keys-call-to-take-the-temperature-down-on-race-relations-verdict-on-the-national-coalition-with-nz-first-and-act/OPFFPXREPRAYVJ754HDSRFBDKM/#google_vignette">a public telling off</a> in his typical style (one of Key's nicknames is the "smiling assassin", i.e. he smiles while he's telling you off). And <a href="/wiki/Newshub" title="Newshub">Newshub</a>'s chief political journalist explained yesterday that it's going to be a problem for Luxon for months to come: "This will still be going on at the start of the [next] year and the political calendar is traditionally kicked off with a number of Māori events. That is a problem for Christopher Luxon not to have it voted down by then, not to have it neutered." By the time this is over, it will have inflicted a lot of damage on the government, possibly enough that they don't survive the next election. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121082100-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>As this is a perennial issue which is going to keep rumbling on, why don't we wait until we get a clear impact such as the passing/withdrawal of the bill or an election result? <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241121103000-Schwede66-20241121082100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I agree with Andrew🐉: it is probably wiser to post to ITN once the bill is voted on, as that is when there will be a clearer impact. However, when that happens, the protests are still important context to include in the ITN blurb. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300-Andrew_Davidson-20241121103000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The Bill got voted through its first reading last week, the hīkoi was partially in response to this. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241121174500-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>The bill will get its second reading in six months. This is in the news now, based on the first reading. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121181300-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support. Quite a significant protest with international news attention and also in relation to size. The protest is the story here, since the coalition partners have pledged to vote the bill down after the committee stage at furher reaadings, so it will almost certainly die out.-- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121131600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support These protests are getting worldwide attention and seems to having a quite impact on the native country. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121140900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose per Masem. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241121145200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. This is a big deal in New Zealand, but lacks long-term or wider significance. No legal change has occurred and a majority of parties have indicated that they will oppose the bill. In the end this is just a bit of domestic politics, letting a minor coalition party introduce something controversial purely so it can be demonstrated how unpopular it is. If the Treaty of Waitanga was repealed then that might be suitable for ITN, some peaceful protests against a bill that has no chance of becoming law is not. Once the bill is defeated the protests will quickly be forgotten. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121172800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - we posted the protests in Israel against the judicial reform for example, and that never got implemented either. One of the, if not the, largest peaceful protest in the history of a country, one that is widely covered across the globe, merits posting. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121174000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support, per nableezy, who puts it quite well. Due to their national scale and international coverage, as well as the lasting effects on the Indigenous rights discourse within New Zealand, I would say it's blurb worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Ornithoptera" title="User:Ornithoptera">Ornithoptera</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ornithoptera" title="User talk:Ornithoptera">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ornithoptera-20241121182200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support it is already one of the most significant events in New Zealand political history, just by the sheer scale of the public participation. David Palmer//<a href="/wiki/User:Cloventt" title="User:Cloventt">cloventt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cloventt" title="User talk:Cloventt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cloventt-20241121204100-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support It is getting widespread international coverage, which makes it rise above "mere domestic politics" as implied above. And even if it was not widespread and international in nature, being "domestic" does not make it ITN worthy, so this argument is redundant. Widespread international coverage + major domestic coverage and recordbreaking levels of domestic political participation + lasting impact on Crown-Indigenous relations in New Zealand = suitable for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241121221900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Comment There are 20 votes in favour and 9 votes opposed – a 2:1 ratio in favour. Both perspectives have hashed out their arguments with reasons. The general ratio is in favour and this will likely not dramatically shift, nor will new arguments emerge. As such, I have marked this nom as ready for an admin decision. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241121222600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Support An enormous protest for Indigenous rights that is drawing international attention. -<a href="/wiki/User:TenorTwelve" title="User:TenorTwelve">TenorTwelve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenorTwelve" title="User talk:TenorTwelve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TenorTwelve-20241122105800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per nom. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122110600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment I want to note that this article has only 4,475 views since it was created four days ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241122162800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a>, that is because people who hear about it in the news are not likely to correctly remember or spell the name of the protest movement (it being "Hīkoi mō te Tiriti"). The general wikipedia page for <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people" title="Māori people">Māori people</a> went from in the vicinity of 3,000 views per day to over 300,000 total views from November 10 (first day of protests) to present. The article for the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">Treaty Principles Bill</a> also rose to 100,000 views during that same period, from essentially almost zero prior to the protest beginning. These additional page view stats paint a clearer picture that there has been a surge in interest and coverage. So, just looking at that one stat in isolation is very misleading. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122211400-Thriley-20241122162800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support per Turnagra <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHiddenCity-20241122220200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> Can a non-involved admin make a decision please? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47-November_19-20241119134100">(Posted) Hong Kong 47</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: (Posted) Hong Kong 47">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">Hong Kong 47</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Hong_Kong_47" title="Talk:Hong Kong 47">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hong_Kong_47&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hong_Kong_47&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">45 pro-democracy activists and politicians</a> are sentenced under the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_national_security_law" title="2020 Hong Kong national security law">Chinese law on Hong Kong national security</a> as a results of participation in the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_pro-democracy_primaries" title="2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries">2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2l4eynl4zo">BBC</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">Manchiu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manchiu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BHong+Kong+47%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Natg_19&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BHong+Kong+47%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: lagrest trial under the HK national security law.-<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">Manchiu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Manchiu-20241119134100-(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Wait Tables are not fully filled. Aftermath section is not added yet. Besides, many activists are jailed every year, although this is significant in terms of the number of activists jailed, I don't think we should be giving special consideration to this incident. <a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20241119145200-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>This more than "activists getting jailed", but is a greater geo-political issue of the erosion of democratic norms in Hong Kong. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119192700-TNM101-20241119145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s>Oppose</s> though this court case is notable, we are now in the sentencing phase, which is not as notable. The time to post this would have been in 2021 when the activists were arrested and charged. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119165600-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>On second thought, if we did not post this before, it would be fine to post this now. However, the article still needs improvement. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119192700-Natg_19-20241119165600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support Article quality is now good, although the aftermath section could use some expansion. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119195200-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Strong oppose on quality - The article hardly seems updated following sentencing. While it is in the article, it's not nearly enough prose to (in my eyes) justify an ITN blurb. Support on notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119202800-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support: The article is notable and looks good. Till somebody opposing on quality doesn't put forth on what point is the quality going wrong, I don't see anything wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241119203300-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Quality looks good and this is getting worldwide news attention, its certainly a notable news story to see democracy and free speech being sadly eroded in Hong Kong. <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241120072700-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - Looks alright. Also, when it comes to the current blurbs, the last one about the election is Mauritius is so old, even the winner has long forgot about it... Maybe add something more fresh, like this? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205" title="Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205">51.154.145.205</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:51.154.145.205" title="User talk:51.154.145.205">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-51.154.145.205-20241120134100-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment The democracy movement effectively stopped in Hong Kong in 2020 when the protests were supressed. And while important in the context of those protests, I am not sure if this is an inflection point in the history of the protests or the movement itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241120150500-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support dystopian clampdown by the Chinese government, Also article is of high quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120172000-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted – <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120184800-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa-November_19-20241119055800">RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa" title="Shuntarō Tanikawa">Shuntarō Tanikawa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa" title="Talk:Shuntarō Tanikawa">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Shuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/11/19/japan/shuntaro-tanikawa-obit/">Japan Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (page does not exist)">240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BShuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Shuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Japanese poet. His death announced on this day. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800-RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Weak oppose on article quality, i'd say add detail on what's listed on bro's greatest work, "Two Billion Light Years of Solitude (1952)". Also, if this article doesn't get approved soon, it may risk becoming stale as bro passed on november 13. <a href="/wiki/User:BlondArkhangel" title="User:BlondArkhangel">BlondArkhangel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlondArkhangel" title="User talk:BlondArkhangel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BlondArkhangel-20241119131400-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Two citation needed tags. Awards section has no sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Secretlondon-20241119230900-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Now five citation needed tags and twice orange-tagged. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120182100-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Multiple tags <a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20241121133700-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_18" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_18-20241118042100">November 18</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: November 18">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_18" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 18">Portal:Current events/2024 November 18</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 18" id="2024_November_18" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 18, 2024 (2024-11-18) (Monday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_18&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_18&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_18&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present)">Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Odesa_strikes_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Odesa strikes (2022–present)">Odesa strikes</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian forces</a> launch a missile attack on the city of <a href="/wiki/Odesa" title="Odesa">Odesa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, for the second consecutive day, killing at least ten civilians, injuring dozens of others and damaging civilian infrastructure, including residential buildings. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/11/18/7485062/">(Ukrainska Pravda)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ukrainian_energy_crisis" title="Ukrainian energy crisis">Ukrainian energy crisis</a>, <a href="/wiki/17_November_2024_Russian_strikes_on_Ukraine" title="17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine">17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine</a> <ul><li>Ukraine re-implements nationwide <a href="/wiki/Rolling_blackout" title="Rolling blackout">rolling blackouts</a> primarily due to yesterday's destruction of energy infrastructure by <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russian</a> airstrikes. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-brings-back-long-rolling-power-cuts-after-major-russian-strike-2024-11-18/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> launches more than 100 missiles at <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a>, including <a href="/wiki/Tel_Aviv" title="Tel Aviv">Tel Aviv</a>, killing one person and injuring dozens of others. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/2-injured-as-hezbollah-fires-100-rockets-at-north-beirut-shuts-schools/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li> <li>Five people are killed and 24 others are injured in an Israeli <a href="/wiki/Airstrike" title="Airstrike">airstrike</a> on <a href="/wiki/Zuqaq_al-Blat" title="Zuqaq al-Blat">Zuqaq al-Blat</a>, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/18/at-least-five-people-killed-in-israeli-strikes-on-lebanons-capital">(Al Jazeera)</a></li> <li>Hezbollah and Lebanon both agree to a <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> proposal for a <a href="/wiki/Ceasefire" title="Ceasefire">ceasefire</a>. However, Israel has refused to comment. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-hezbollah-agree-us-proposal-ceasefire-with-israel-lebanese-official-says-2024-11-18/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> <ul><li>Security forces raid a <a href="/wiki/Lashkar-e-Islam" title="Lashkar-e-Islam">Lashkar-e-Islam</a> hideout in the <a href="/wiki/Tirah" title="Tirah">Tirah Valley</a> of <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, killing ten militants and injuring several others. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pakistani-security-forces-raid-militant-hideout-northwest-10-115976044">(ABC News)</a></li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/Pakistani_Taliban" title="Pakistani Taliban">Pakistani Taliban</a> ambush on a military convoy in <a href="/wiki/Khyber_district" class="mw-redirect" title="Khyber district">Khyber district</a>, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, kills eight soldiers and wounds three others. Several gunmen are also killed. Separately, seven police officers are kidnapped in <a href="/wiki/Bannu" title="Bannu">Bannu</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.voanews.com/a/militants-kill-8-pakistani-soldiers-abduct-7-police-officers/7868502.html">(Voice of America)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">Somali Civil War</a> <ul><li>Three people are killed and another is injured when a <a href="/wiki/Land_mine" title="Land mine">land mine</a>, believed to have been planted by <a href="/wiki/Al-Shabaab_(militant_group)" title="Al-Shabaab (militant group)">Al-Shabaab</a>, explodes on a highway between <a href="/wiki/Afgooye" title="Afgooye">Afgooye</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wanlaweyn" title="Wanlaweyn">Wanlaweyn</a> in <a href="/wiki/Lower_Shabelle" title="Lower Shabelle">Lower Shabelle</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://garoweonline.com/en/news/somalia/three-killed-one-injured-in-somalia-explosion">(Garowe Online)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Twenty gang members are killed by security forces in the <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza Strip</a> after armed <a href="/wiki/Looting" title="Looting">looters</a> <a href="/wiki/Hijacking" class="mw-disambig" title="Hijacking">hijacked</a> almost 100 trucks bringing aid for the <a href="/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip" title="Blockade of the Gaza Strip">ongoing famine</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/18/armed-looters-hijack-almost-100-trucks-carrying-aid-supplies-into-gaza">(The Guardian)</a></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">American</a> airline <a href="/wiki/Spirit_Airlines" title="Spirit Airlines">Spirit Airlines</a> files for <a href="/wiki/Chapter_11,_Title_11,_United_States_Code" title="Chapter 11, Title 11, United States Code">Chapter 11 bankruptcy</a> after years of financial losses and a failed merger attempt with <a href="/wiki/JetBlue" title="JetBlue">JetBlue</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/2024/11/18/nx-s1-5195224/spirit-airlines-bankruptcy-protection">(NPR)</a></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li>Three people are killed in an explosion at a <a href="/wiki/Firework" class="mw-redirect" title="Firework">fireworks</a> factory in <a href="/wiki/Ercolano" title="Ercolano">Ercolano</a>, <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rainews.it/amp/tgr/campania/articoli/2024/11/ercolano-esplode-una-fabbrica-di-fuochi-dartificio-2-morti-e-diversi-dispersi-95ad1a2e-77a5-43c9-ab6b-ecf4fef4323b.html">(Rai News)</a></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Denmark%E2%80%93Somalia_relations" title="Denmark–Somalia relations">Denmark–Somalia relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Denmark" title="Denmark">Denmark</a> and <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a> reach an agreement to relieve more than $8.5 million of Somali debt. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://horseedmedia.net/denmark-forgives-somalias-8-5-million-debt-in-latest-debt-relief-milestone-395418">(Horseed Media)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/C-Lion1" title="C-Lion1">C-Lion1</a> <a href="/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable" title="Submarine communications cable">submarine communications cable</a> across the <a href="/wiki/Baltic_Sea" title="Baltic Sea">Baltic Sea</a> between <a href="/wiki/Finland" title="Finland">Finland</a> and <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a> is damaged in what <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Germany" class="mw-redirect" title="Government of Germany">German officials</a> suspect is sabotage. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/19/baltic-sea-cables-damage-sabotage-german-minister">(The Guardian)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Three people are killed in a <a href="/wiki/Mass_stabbing" title="Mass stabbing">stabbing</a> <a href="/wiki/Spree_killer" title="Spree killer">spree</a> in <a href="/wiki/Manhattan" title="Manhattan">Manhattan</a>, <a href="/wiki/New_York_(state)" title="New York (state)">New York</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>. The perpetrator is arrested. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/18/us/manhattan-stabbing-spree-2-dead-nypd/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Colin_Petersen" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Colin_Petersen-November_18-20241119175600">RD: Colin Petersen</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: RD: Colin Petersen">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Colin_Petersen" title="Colin Petersen">Colin Petersen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Colin_Petersen" title="Talk:Colin Petersen">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colin_Petersen&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Colin_Petersen&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Petersen">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.deccanherald.com/world/two-bee-gees-drummers-die-within-days-2-3282242">Deccan Herald</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ollieisanerd" title="User:Ollieisanerd">Ollieisanerd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ollieisanerd" title="User talk:Ollieisanerd">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ollieisanerd&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BColin+Petersen%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Petersen&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bostart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bostart (page does not exist)">Bostart</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bostart" title="User talk:Bostart">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bostart&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BColin+Petersen%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Petersen&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:TheCorriynial" title="User:TheCorriynial">TheCorriynial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheCorriynial" title="User talk:TheCorriynial">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheCorriynial&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BColin+Petersen%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Petersen&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Australian drummer for the <a href="/wiki/Bee_Gees" title="Bee Gees">Bee Gees</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ollieisanerd" title="User:Ollieisanerd">Ollieisanerd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ollieisanerd" title="User talk:Ollieisanerd">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ollieisanerd" title="Special:Contributions/Ollieisanerd">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ollieisanerd-20241119175600-RD:_Colin_Petersen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Some citations needed, and uncited paragraphs. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Secretlondon-20241119231100-RD:_Colin_Petersen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Bob_Love" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Bob_Love-November_18-20241119051900">(Posted) RD: Bob Love</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Bob Love">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Bob_Love" title="Bob Love">Bob Love</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Bob_Love" title="Talk:Bob Love">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Love&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Love&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Bob+Love">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/19/sports/basketball/bob-love-dead.html">NYT</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBob+Love%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Bob+Love&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Leeapp&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Leeapp (page does not exist)">Leeapp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leeapp" title="User talk:Leeapp">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Leeapp&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBob+Love%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Bob+Love&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American basketball player. Needs additional work (orange-tagged). <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241119051900-(Posted)_RD:_Bob_Love" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li>Support: Seems notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Ivebeenhacked" title="User:Ivebeenhacked">Hacked</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivebeenhacked" title="User talk:Ivebeenhacked">Talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked" title="Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ivebeenhacked-20241119052500-Staraction-20241119051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>@<a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Stephen</a>: this is why I wanted it included in the header. Might be in the template, but it's not visible enough. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241119065700-Ivebeenhacked-20241119052500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>You think people read the instructions at the top? Especially what would be points 7) and 8). It's a perennial problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241119072100-Abcmaxx-20241119065700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>They're more likely to read the top of the page than somewhere in the depth of the many policies. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241119120000-Stephen-20241119072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li>Failing to read detailed instructions is normal behaviour – see <a href="/wiki/Banner_blindness" title="Banner blindness">banner blindness</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CREEP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CREEP">WP:CREEP</a>. If you don't want people casting such !votes then the format of the process should be changed so that it's a checklist rather than a call for !votes. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241119082600-Stephen-20241119072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It's not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CREEP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CREEP">WP:CREEP</a> if it's already a rule. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241119115900-Andrew_Davidson-20241119082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support The orange banner tag was placed in 2010 which is 14 years ago! Since that time, the article has been expanded greatly and the number of citations increased from 2 to 27. As there's no current indication or discussion of specific problems with the article and the article seems quite adequate, I just removed the obsolete tag. If people think there's a problem, they need to be specific. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241119081600-Staraction-20241119051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. Citations have been completed. Marked as ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Flibirigit" title="User:Flibirigit">Flibirigit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flibirigit" title="User talk:Flibirigit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flibirigit-20241119131600-Staraction-20241119051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted to RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241119200400-Staraction-20241119051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Arthur_Frommer" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Arthur_Frommer-November_18-20241119013100">RD: Arthur Frommer</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: RD: Arthur Frommer">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Arthur_Frommer" title="Arthur Frommer">Arthur Frommer</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Arthur_Frommer" title="Talk:Arthur Frommer">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arthur_Frommer&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arthur_Frommer&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Arthur+Frommer">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Travel-Agent-Issues/obituary-travel-publishing-giant-arthur-frommer-dies">Travel Weekly</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thriley&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BArthur+Frommer%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Arthur+Frommer&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Founder of <a href="/wiki/Frommer%27s" title="Frommer's">Frommer's</a> travel guide book series. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241119013100-RD:_Arthur_Frommer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Soft oppose: Chunks of the article aren't cited, there are also no sections and it's lacking in prose. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241119020600-Thriley-20241119013100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_György_Pauk" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_György_Pauk-November_18-20241118230900">(Posted) RD: György Pauk</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: György Pauk">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Pauk" title="György Pauk">György Pauk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gy%C3%B6rgy_Pauk" title="Talk:György Pauk">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gy%C3%B6rgy_Pauk&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gy%C3%B6rgy_Pauk&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gy%C3%B6rgy+Pauk">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thestrad.com/news/györgy-pauk-distinguished-hungarian-violinist-and-pedagogue-has-died/18913.article">The Strad</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Grimes2&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGy%C3%B6rgy+Pauk%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gy%C3%B6rgy+Pauk&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:CurryTime7-24" title="User:CurryTime7-24">CurryTime7-24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CurryTime7-24" title="User talk:CurryTime7-24">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CurryTime7-24&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGy%C3%B6rgy+Pauk%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gy%C3%B6rgy+Pauk&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Hungarian violinist, Bartók expert. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241118230900-(Posted)_RD:_György_Pauk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support article is properly cited. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241119020700-Grimes2-20241118230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241119035800-Grimes2-20241118230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election-November_18-20241118042100">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: 2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 126px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg/126px-Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg" decoding="async" width="126" height="156" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg/189px-Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg/252px-Ousmane_Sonko_2023.jpg 2x" data-file-width="318" data-file-height="394"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="Talk:2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election">tag</a>) Blurb: The <a href="/wiki/PASTEF" title="PASTEF">PASTEF</a> party, led by <a href="/wiki/Ousmane_Sonko" title="Ousmane Sonko">Ousmane Sonko</a> (pictured), claims victory in the <a href="/wiki/2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20241118-senegal-ruling-party-legislative-elections">France 24</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/senegal-ruling-party-claims-victory-in-legislative-elections/a-70803840">Deutsch Welle</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Scu_ba&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Number_57" title="User:Number 57">Number 57</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Number_57" title="User talk:Number 57">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Number_57&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Borgenland" title="User:Borgenland">Borgenland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgenland" title="User talk:Borgenland">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Borgenland&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Senegalese+parliamentary+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: Article needs serious work, and needs to be updated, but when that is done this is ITN/R. More of a call to action for people to edit the article at the moment rather than a true submission to the board. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241118042100-2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>These sources are all dated from 18 November so this submission should be moved to tomorrow. Senegal uses UTC. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241118042700-Scu_ba-20241118042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Moved. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241118043000-Departure–-20241118042700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Wait until an official winner is announced. I will say I don't know much about how election works in Senegal. <a href="/wiki/User:INeedSupport" title="User:INeedSupport"><big>I</big></a>Need<a href="/wiki/User_talk:INeedSupport" title="User talk:INeedSupport">Support</a> :3 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-INeedSupport-20241118152900-Scu_ba-20241118042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Weak oppose on quality as the article is very short, although it seems well sourced. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/senegal-legislative-election-president-reforms-edaa944a674a9dc5dff57e88a2b2029a">Per AP</a>, other major parties have conceded defeat to PASTEF and their victory seems all but guaranteed. I'd just like to confirm however, Sonko is the leader of PASTEF but he isn't mentioned in the AP article - I don't know enough about Senegalese politics to draw a major conclusion on this though. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241118171700-Scu_ba-20241118042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_17" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_17-20241117140100">November 17</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: November 17">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_17" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 17">Portal:Current events/2024 November 17</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 17" id="2024_November_17" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 17, 2024 (2024-11-17) (Sunday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_17&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_17&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_17&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present)">Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukrainian_energy_crisis" title="Ukrainian energy crisis">Ukrainian energy crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/17_November_2024_Russian_strikes_on_Ukraine" title="17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine">17 November 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> launches its largest aerial attack on <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> in months. According to <a href="/wiki/President_of_Ukraine" title="President of Ukraine">President of Ukraine</a> <a href="/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy" title="Volodymyr Zelenskyy">Volodymyr Zelenskyy</a>, around 120 <a href="/wiki/Missile" title="Missile">missiles</a> and 90 <a href="/wiki/Unmanned_combat_aerial_vehicle" title="Unmanned combat aerial vehicle">drones</a> were launched, damaging energy infrastructure across the country, killing at least seven people, and causing widespread damage. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/17/europe/russia-large-aerial-attack-ukraine-intl/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c206l3qgnx2o">(BBC News)</a></li> <li>Ten people are killed and 52 others are injured in a Russian missile strike on an apartment building in <a href="/wiki/Sumy" title="Sumy">Sumy</a>, Ukraine. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/two-children-among-10-killed-russian-missile-strike-sumy-ukraine-says-2024-11-17/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">United States President</a> <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a> lifts restrictions on the Ukrainian use of U.S. weapons for deep attacks inside Russia, with <a href="/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_Ukraine" title="Armed Forces of Ukraine">Ukrainian forces</a> planning to use the weapons in long-distance attacks in the coming days. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-lifts-ban-ukraine-using-us-arms-strike-inside-russia-2024-11-17/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war" title="Israel–Hamas war">Israel–Hamas war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation" title="Palestinian genocide accusation">Palestinian genocide accusation</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Pope_Francis" title="Pope Francis">Pope Francis</a> calls for the <a href="/wiki/World_community" title="World community">global community</a> to investigate whether <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> is committing genocide in <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/18/middleeast/pope-israel-gaza-genocide-allegations-intl/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Siege_of_North_Gaza" title="Siege of North Gaza">Siege of North Gaza</a> <ul><li>At least 72 people are killed, a third of whom are children, in an Israeli strike against a residential building in <a href="/wiki/Beit_Lahia" title="Beit Lahia">Beit Lahia</a>, in northern Gaza. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/17/israel-bombs-residential-building-in-north-gazas-beit-lahiya-killing-50">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.asiaone.com/world/dozens-killed-and-wounded-israeli-strikes-across-gaza-medics-say">(AsiaOne)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> airstrike on the <a href="/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Ba%27ath_Party_%E2%80%93_Lebanon_Region" title="Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party – Lebanon Region">Lebanese Ba'ath Party</a> headquarters in Ras el-Nabaa, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>, kills seven people, including <a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> spokesman Mohammed Afif. Sixteen others are wounded. Three people are also killed and 29 more injured in another airstrike in <a href="/wiki/Mar_Elias,_Beirut" title="Mar Elias, Beirut">Mar Elias</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.barrons.com/news/lebanon-security-source-says-hezbollah-spokesman-killed-in-beirut-strike-3e3fe86d">(Barron's)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/11/18/live-israeli-attacks-kill-111-in-gaza-as-pope-calls-for-genocide-inquiry?update=3333909">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season" title="2024 Atlantic hurricane season">2024 Atlantic hurricane season</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Sara" title="Tropical Storm Sara">Tropical Storm Sara</a> makes landfall in <a href="/wiki/Belize" title="Belize">Belize</a> after causing flooding in <a href="/wiki/Honduras" title="Honduras">Honduras</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/tropical-storm-sara-belize-honduras-rain-flooding-f107d30b264401bbcc4bd48d240cc86b">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Pacific_typhoon_season" title="2024 Pacific typhoon season">2024 Pacific typhoon season</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Typhoon_Man-yi_(2024)" title="Typhoon Man-yi (2024)">Typhoon Man-yi</a> makes landfall in the <a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">Philippines</a> as a <a href="/wiki/Saffir%E2%80%93Simpson_scale#Category_4" title="Saffir–Simpson scale">Category 4</a> super typhoon, three days after <a href="/wiki/Typhoon_Usagi_(2024)" title="Typhoon Usagi (2024)">Typhoon Usagi</a> struck the country and becoming the sixth consecutive storm to affect <a href="/wiki/Luzon" title="Luzon">Luzon</a> in the past month. At least eight people are killed. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/18/philippines-cleans-up-as-super-typhoon-man-yi-leaves-deadly-trail">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg5j1k8w8qo">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Health and environment <ul><li>One fatality and dozens of illnesses are linked to an <a href="/wiki/Escherichia_coli#History" title="Escherichia coli">E. coli outbreak</a> of <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_States" title="Agriculture in the United States">U.S.-grown organic</a> <a href="/wiki/Carrot" title="Carrot">carrots</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/e-coli-outbreak-linked-to-organic-carrots-leaves-1-dead-and-dozens-sickened-across-the-u-s-1.7113486">(CTV News)</a></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li>Two people are killed and nine others are injured in two shooting incidents near a <a href="/wiki/Second_line_(parades)" title="Second line (parades)">parade route</a> in <a href="/wiki/New_Orleans" title="New Orleans">New Orleans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Louisiana" title="Louisiana">Louisiana</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-shootings-6c641431f5f7d5ce74fd71782e215575">(AP)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</a> <ul><li>Citizens of <a href="/wiki/Senegal" title="Senegal">Senegal</a> vote for the 165 seats of the <a href="/wiki/National_Assembly_(Senegal)" title="National Assembly (Senegal)">National Assembly</a> after <a href="/wiki/President_of_Senegal" title="President of Senegal">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Bassirou_Diomaye_Faye" title="Bassirou Diomaye Faye">Bassirou Diomaye Faye</a> dissolved the parliament in September. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/senegals-new-president-seeks-majority-in-parliamentary-vote/a-70803840">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Hundreds of people march in a protest against <a href="/wiki/Russian_President" class="mw-redirect" title="Russian President">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> in <a href="/wiki/Berlin" title="Berlin">Berlin</a>, <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>, which was called by <a href="/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia" title="Opposition to Vladimir Putin in Russia">opposition leaders</a>-in-exile <a href="/wiki/Yulia_Navalnaya" title="Yulia Navalnaya">Yulia Navalnaya</a>, <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Kara-Murza" title="Vladimir Kara-Murza">Vladimir Kara-Murza</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Ilya_Yashin" title="Ilya Yashin">Ilya Yashin</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/russian-opposition-in-exile-holds-berlin-protest-march/a-70804993">(DW)</a></li></ul> Sports <ul><li><a href="/wiki/111th_Grey_Cup" title="111th Grey Cup">111th Grey Cup</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Canadian_football" title="Canadian football">Canadian football</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Toronto_Argonauts" title="Toronto Argonauts">Toronto Argonauts</a> defeat the <a href="/wiki/Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers" title="Winnipeg Blue Bombers">Winnipeg Blue Bombers</a> 41–24 to claim their 19th <a href="/wiki/Canadian_Football_League" title="Canadian Football League">Canadian Football League</a> title. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/toronto-argonauts-pull-away-in-fourth-to-beat-winnipeg-blue-bombers-in-111th-grey-cup-1.2206560">(TSN)</a></li> <li>Toronto Argonauts <a href="/wiki/Quarterback" title="Quarterback">quarterback</a> <a href="/wiki/Nick_Arbuckle" title="Nick Arbuckle">Nick Arbuckle</a> is named the <a href="/wiki/Grey_Cup_Most_Valuable_Player" title="Grey Cup Most Valuable Player">most valuable player</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wide_receiver" title="Wide receiver">wide receiver</a> <a href="/wiki/Dejon_Brissett" title="Dejon Brissett">Dejon Brissett</a> is named the <a href="/wiki/Dick_Suderman_Trophy" title="Dick Suderman Trophy">most valuable Canadian</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/nick-arbuckle-named-most-valuable-player-of-111th-grey-cup-1.2206569">(TSN)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_ATP_Finals" title="2024 ATP Finals">2024 ATP Finals</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Tennis" title="Tennis">tennis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jannik_Sinner" title="Jannik Sinner">Jannik Sinner</a> defeats <a href="/wiki/Taylor_Fritz" title="Taylor Fritz">Taylor Fritz</a>, 6–4, 6–4 to win his first <a href="/wiki/ATP_Finals" title="ATP Finals">ATP Finals</a> <a href="/wiki/2024_ATP_Finals_%E2%80%93_Singles" title="2024 ATP Finals – Singles">singles</a> title. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/18/sport/jannik-sinner-atp-finals-taylor-fritz-spt-intl/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="2024 MotoGP World Championship">2024 MotoGP World Championship</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Motorcycle_racing" title="Motorcycle racing">motorcycle racing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pramac_Racing" title="Pramac Racing">Prima Pramac Racing</a> driver <a href="/wiki/Jorge_Mart%C3%ADn" title="Jorge Martín">Jorge Martín</a> wins the 2024 <a href="/wiki/MotoGP_World_Championship" class="mw-redirect" title="MotoGP World Championship">MotoGP World Championship</a>, becoming the first independent driver to win the title in the <a href="/wiki/Grand_Prix_motorcycle_racing#MotoGP_class" title="Grand Prix motorcycle racing">MotoGP era</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2024/11/17/jorge-martin-of-spain-wins-2024-motogp-championship-in-barcelona">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Artur_Sarnat" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Artur_Sarnat-November_17-20241118103600">RD: Artur Sarnat</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: RD: Artur Sarnat">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Artur_Sarnat" title="Artur Sarnat">Artur Sarnat</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Artur_Sarnat" title="Talk:Artur Sarnat">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Artur_Sarnat&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Artur_Sarnat&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Artur+Sarnat">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://en.wislakrakow.com/posts/artur-sarnat-passes-away-at-54/344">Wisła Kraków</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abcmaxx&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BArtur+Sarnat%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Artur+Sarnat&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Article needs expansion, but given the available sources should be easy to do. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241118103600-RD:_Artur_Sarnat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Soft support article looks decent, albeit very short. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241119020700-Abcmaxx-20241118103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>We don't post stubs. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120181100-Abcmaxx-20241118103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment Size is cuurently 970 B (162 words) readable prose.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241123135800-Abcmaxx-20241118103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_2024_MotoGP_World_Championship-November_17-20241117140100">(Posted) 2024 MotoGP World Championship</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: (Posted) 2024 MotoGP World Championship">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 114px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg/114px-Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg" decoding="async" width="114" height="171" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg/171px-Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg/228px-Jorge_Martin_at_the_2023_Japanese_motorcycle_Grand_Prix.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2102" data-file-height="3152"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="2024 MotoGP World Championship">2024 MotoGP World Championship</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="Talk:2024 MotoGP World Championship">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_MotoGP_World_Championship&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_MotoGP_World_Championship&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+MotoGP+World+Championship">tag</a>) Blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Motorcycle_racing" title="Motorcycle racing">motorcycle racing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jorge_Mart%C3%ADn" title="Jorge Martín">Jorge Martín</a> (pictured) wins the <a href="/wiki/2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="2024 MotoGP World Championship">MotoGP World Championship</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.eurosport.com/moto/grand-prix-barcelona/2024/motogp-jorge-martin-claims-motogp-title-with-third-place-finish-in-barcelona_sto10395681/story.shtml">Eurosport</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unnamelessness&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+MotoGP+World+Championship%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+MotoGP+World+Championship&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div> <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241117140100-(Posted)_2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment is there a reason there are no infoboxes like in other sports season articles? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241117145400-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Soft oppose needs an infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241117211500-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There is no such rule. <a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiLo48" title="User talk:HiLo48">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HiLo48-20241118012700-Scu_ba-20241117211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>As far as I can tell, none of the MotoGP championship articles have an infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Corvette_ZR1" title="User:The Corvette ZR1">The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Corvette_ZR1" title="User talk:The Corvette ZR1">(The Garage)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Corvette_ZR1-20241118003300-Scu_ba-20241117211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes but my question is why? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241118013200-The_Corvette_ZR1-20241118003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Okay, well, that's a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241118024000-The_Corvette_ZR1-20241118003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any article</q> per <a href="/wiki/MOS:INFOBOXUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:INFOBOXUSE">MOS:INFOBOXUSE</a>... there doesn't need to be one on any article, so its not a problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Happily888" title="User:Happily888">Happily888</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Happily888" title="User talk:Happily888">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Happily888-20241118033300-Scu_ba-20241118024000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'm not saying it's a requirement, I'm just wondering why aren't there any, especially given they’re very useful on sports season articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241118085500-Happily888-20241118033300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>It's not a requirement, but it would be nice to have, and there isn't really a reason to not have one. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241119020800-Happily888-20241118033300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Infoboxes or not might be something to raise with the WikiProject- which I guess would be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Motorsport" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorsport">Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorsport</a> as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Motorcycle_racing" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycle racing">Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycle racing</a> looks to be inactive. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241121114700-Scu_ba-20241119020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Weak support the season summary could be expanded, but is just about good enough for the article to pass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY">WP:ITNQUALITY</a>. The existence of an infobox is not a requirement for ITN, and so any votes based on that should be disregarded. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241118093000-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Support ITNR, well cited, infobox is not necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241118093500-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. The season summary is detailed and well referenced. The rest of the article is mostly bullet points and tables, which isn't great, but it's in a good enough state to meet our requirements for posting. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121152600-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Infobox = mildly cretinous. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241121161300-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment Can any admin have a look at this? <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241122112300-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241123010100-Unnamelessness-20241122112300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123070000-Unnamelessness-20241117140100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_111th_Grey_Cup" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_111th_Grey_Cup-November_17-20241118041000">(Posted) 111th Grey Cup</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: (Posted) 111th Grey Cup">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 121px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:111th_Grey_Cup,_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg/121px-111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg" decoding="async" width="121" height="161" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg/182px-111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg/242px-111th_Grey_Cup%2C_Nick_Arbuckle.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2467" data-file-height="3277"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/111th_Grey_Cup" title="111th Grey Cup">111th Grey Cup</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:111th_Grey_Cup" title="Talk:111th Grey Cup">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=111th_Grey_Cup&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:111th_Grey_Cup&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=111th+Grey+Cup">tag</a>) Blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Canadian_football" title="Canadian football">Canadian football</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Toronto_Argonauts" title="Toronto Argonauts">Toronto Argonauts</a> (<a href="/wiki/Grey_Cup_Most_Valuable_Player" title="Grey Cup Most Valuable Player">MVP</a> <a href="/wiki/Nick_Arbuckle" title="Nick Arbuckle">Nick Arbuckle</a> pictured) defeat the <a href="/wiki/Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers" title="Winnipeg Blue Bombers">Winnipeg Blue Bombers</a> to win <a href="/wiki/111th_Grey_Cup" title="111th Grey Cup">the Grey Cup</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/toronto-argonauts-pull-away-in-fourth-to-beat-winnipeg-blue-bombers-in-111th-grey-cup-1.2206560">TSN</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Moraljaya67&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Moraljaya67 (page does not exist)">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moraljaya67&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B111th+Grey+Cup%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=111th+Grey+Cup&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Cmm3" title="User:Cmm3">Cmm3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cmm3" title="User talk:Cmm3">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cmm3&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B111th+Grey+Cup%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=111th+Grey+Cup&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: I know that this article needs a game summary for this like in other sports (i.e. <a href="/wiki/NFL" class="mw-redirect" title="NFL">NFL</a>, <a href="/wiki/NBA" class="mw-redirect" title="NBA">NBA</a>, <a href="/wiki/Australian_Football_League" title="Australian Football League">AFL</a>, etc.) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Moraljaya67&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Moraljaya67 (page does not exist)">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Moraljaya67-20241118041000-(Posted)_111th_Grey_Cup" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I should note that the <a href="/wiki/Grey_Cup" title="Grey Cup">Grey Cup</a> is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNR">ITNR</a> so discussion should focus on quality instead of notability. <s>Strong oppose on quality, much of the article is written in future tense and no details about the game itself are present. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241118041400-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Quality has improved significantly since this was nominated. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121131500-Departure–-20241118041400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: Changed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNR">ITNR</a> since the <a href="/wiki/Grey_Cup" title="Grey Cup">Grey Cup</a> is in recurring item. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Moraljaya67&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Moraljaya67 (page does not exist)">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Moraljaya67-20241118041700-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li><s>Oppose there's absolutely no description or indeed any information at all on the game. It's all background trivia at the moment.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241118092500-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support significant expansion and re-write, this is the kind of improvement that ITN nominations were made for. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241121145700-Abcmaxx-20241118092500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li><s>Oppose</s> needs proper match summary. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241118093100-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support looks much better now, meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY">WP:ITNQUALITY</a>. Also, the yellow-tagged MOS issue I raised has also been resolved, so thank you. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241121114200-Joseph2302-20241118093100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><s>Oppose summary that was added is all original research and has no citations. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241119020400-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support problems with the article have been fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121042500-Scu_ba-20241119020400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support: The teams' summary, scoring summary, and stats tables have now been added. The game summary has been re-written with references. Pictures from the game have also been uploaded and added. I'm also suggesting a change to the key image, since this is from the MVP award presentation. I'm seeking reconsideration from @<a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph2302</a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a>: and support from @<a href="/wiki/User:WikiOriginal-9" title="User:WikiOriginal-9">WikiOriginal-9</a>: and @<a href="/wiki/User:GreenRunner0" title="User:GreenRunner0">GreenRunner0</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Cmm3" title="User:Cmm3">Cmm3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cmm3" title="User talk:Cmm3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cmm3-20241121040000-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Its in a good state for this. <a href="/wiki/User:GreenRunner0" title="User:GreenRunner0">Green</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenRunner0" title="User talk:GreenRunner0">Runner</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreenRunner0" title="Special:Contributions/GreenRunner0">0</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GreenRunner0-20241121044300-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. The article looks in good shape to me. All the oppose !votes have switched to support, so I'm marking this as ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121153100-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121180400-Moraljaya67-20241118041000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_16" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_16-20241116110600">November 16</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: November 16">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; 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During the meeting, Biden and Xi talk about topics like <a href="/wiki/Cyber_crime" class="mw-redirect" title="Cyber crime">cyber crime</a>, <a href="/wiki/International_trade" title="International trade">trade</a>, <a href="/wiki/Taiwan" title="Taiwan">Taiwan</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>. Xi also said that his team will work with the incoming <a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Trump administration</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-xi-set-tense-final-meeting-peru-trump-era-looms-2024-11-16/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" title="2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">2024 Wuxi stabbing attack</a> <ul><li>Eight people are killed and 17 others are injured in a <a href="/wiki/Mass_stabbing" title="Mass stabbing">stabbing</a> <a href="/wiki/Spree_killer" title="Spree killer">spree</a> at the <a href="/wiki/Wuxi_Vocational_Institute_of_Arts_and_Technology" title="Wuxi Vocational Institute of Arts and Technology">Wuxi Institute of Technology</a> in <a href="/wiki/Yixing" title="Yixing">Yixing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jiangsu" title="Jiangsu">Jiangsu</a>, <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">China</a>. The suspect, a 21-year-old student, is arrested. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/16/china/china-stabbing-yixing-campus-intl/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eight-killed-stabbing-incident-wuxi-china-2024-11-16/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li>A man barricades himself inside his father's restaurant in <a href="/wiki/Issy-les-Moulineaux" title="Issy-les-Moulineaux">Issy-les-Moulineaux</a>, <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a>, taking restaurant employees as <a href="/wiki/Hostage-taking" class="mw-redirect" title="Hostage-taking">hostages</a>. The hostages are later rescued and the man is arrested. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bfmtv.com/amp/paris/issy-les-moulineaux-une-prise-d-otage-en-cours-dans-un-restaurant-un-homme-retranche_AN-202411160314.html">(BFM TV)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-829371">(The Jerusalem Post)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Argentina" title="Argentina">Argentina</a> orders the arrest of 61 <a href="/wiki/Brazil" title="Brazil">Brazilian</a> citizens currently living in Argentina who are accused of participating in the <a href="/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack" title="2023 Brazilian Congress attack">2023 Brazilian Congress attack</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-seeks-arrests-61-right-wing-rioters-brazil-2024-11-16/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Gabonese_constitutional_referendum" title="2024 Gabonese constitutional referendum">2024 Gabonese constitutional referendum</a> <ul><li>Citizens of <a href="/wiki/Gabon" title="Gabon">Gabon</a> vote on a proposed new <a href="/wiki/Constitution_of_Gabon" title="Constitution of Gabon">constitution</a>, including replacing the current <a href="/wiki/Semi-presidential_system" class="mw-redirect" title="Semi-presidential system">semi-presidential system</a> with a <a href="/wiki/Presidential_system" title="Presidential system">presidential system</a> following the <a href="/wiki/2023_Gabonese_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat" title="2023 Gabonese coup d'état">2023 coup</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/gabon-votes-on-post-coup-constitutional-referendum/a-70786199">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_John_Hine" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_John_Hine-November_16-20241120073100">RD: John Hine</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: RD: John Hine">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/John_Hine" title="John Hine">John Hine</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Hine" title="Talk:John Hine">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Hine&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Hine&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Hine">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bhine.html">Catholic Hierachy</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rcsouthwark.co.uk/news-events/news/bishop-john-hine-rip">Archdiocese of Southwark</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_C_of_E&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Hine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Hine&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User:Mohamad Darilin">Mohamad Darilin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User talk:Mohamad Darilin">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Hine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Hine&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: English Catholic Bishop <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241120073100-RD:_John_Hine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment Unreliable obituary? <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241120211800-The_C_of_E-20241120073100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>I've added another source. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241121060100-The_C_of_E-20241120073100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack-November_16-20241119055300">2024 Wuxi stabbing attack</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: 2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Stale. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241123011300-2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" title="2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">2024 Wuxi stabbing attack</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" title="Talk:2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack">tag</a>) Blurb: A <a href="/wiki/2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" title="2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">stabbing attack</a> in <a href="/wiki/Wuxi" title="Wuxi">Wuxi</a>, China kills 8 and injures 17. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Wuxi_Vocational_Institute_of_Arts_and_Technology" title="Wuxi Vocational Institute of Arts and Technology">a school</a> in <a href="/wiki/Wuxi" title="Wuxi">Wuxi</a>, China, a graduate student <a href="/wiki/2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" title="2024 Wuxi stabbing attack">stabs</a> 25. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/china-knife-attack-yixing-stabbing-school-xu-1cb98b756a2d638f68c1a04bb477e192">AP</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">CanonNi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CanonNi&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Swinub" title="User:Swinub">Swinub</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swinub" title="User talk:Swinub">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Swinub&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Bloxzge_025" title="User:Bloxzge 025">Bloxzge 025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloxzge_025" title="User talk:Bloxzge 025">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bloxzge_025&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Tokisaki_Kurumi" title="User:Tokisaki Kurumi">Tokisaki Kurumi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tokisaki_Kurumi" title="User talk:Tokisaki Kurumi">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tokisaki_Kurumi&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Wuxi+stabbing+attack&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div>Nominator's comments: Second mass attack in a week. (the first being <a href="/wiki/2024_Zhuhai_car_attack" title="2024 Zhuhai car attack">the ramming</a>) '''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]''' (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-CanonNi-20241119055300-2024_Wuxi_stabbing_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>I've moved this here. (previously under November 19) <a href="/wiki/Template:Self-trout" title="Template:Self-trout"><img alt="trout" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Rainbow_trout_transparent.png/20px-Rainbow_trout_transparent.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Rainbow_trout_transparent.png/30px-Rainbow_trout_transparent.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Rainbow_trout_transparent.png/40px-Rainbow_trout_transparent.png 2x" data-file-width="327" data-file-height="327"/></a> Self-trout '''[[<a href="/wiki/User:CanonNi" title="User:CanonNi">User:CanonNi</a>]]''' (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CanonNi" title="User talk:CanonNi">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/CanonNi" title="Special:Contributions/CanonNi">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-CanonNi-20241119074000-CanonNi-20241119055300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak Support Article quality is fine but could use some work. The stabbing is very notable. <a href="/wiki/User:INeedSupport" title="User:INeedSupport"><big>I</big></a>Need<a href="/wiki/User_talk:INeedSupport" title="User talk:INeedSupport">Support</a> :3 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-INeedSupport-20241119173800-CanonNi-20241119055300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support on notability, quality could use some work though. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119194300-CanonNi-20241119055300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support, notable school attack with a large amount of victims. Article needs a little more information though. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloxzge_025" title="User:Bloxzge 025">Bloxzge 025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloxzge_025" title="User talk:Bloxzge 025">talk</a>)</li> <li>This needs a few more eyes and comments. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120180000-CanonNi-20241119055300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: It is notable, and well cited, and not bad in length especially given that the incident happened in China. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241121055800-CanonNi-20241119055300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Vladimir_Shklyarov" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Vladimir_Shklyarov-November_16-20241118100900">RD: Vladimir Shklyarov</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: RD: Vladimir Shklyarov">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Shklyarov" title="Vladimir Shklyarov">Vladimir Shklyarov</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Vladimir_Shklyarov" title="Talk:Vladimir Shklyarov">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Shklyarov&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vladimir_Shklyarov&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Vladimir+Shklyarov">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/nov/18/vladimir-shklyarov-russian-ballet-star-dies-aged-39-after-falling-from-building">The Guardian</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abcmaxx&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BVladimir+Shklyarov%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Vladimir+Shklyarov&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Article not too bad, needs a few more citations in places though. Needs a section on their death given that he was taking painkillers for an injury and fell from fifth floor of a building in St. Petersburg. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241118100900-RD:_Vladimir_Shklyarov" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>The sections "Repertoire" and "Awards and honours" are missing many citations. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241123011500-Abcmaxx-20241118100900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Gerry_Weil" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Gerry_Weil-November_16-20241117205400">RD: Gerry Weil</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: RD: Gerry Weil">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Gerry_Weil" title="Gerry Weil">Gerry Weil</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gerry_Weil" title="Talk:Gerry Weil">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerry_Weil&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gerry_Weil&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gerry+Weil">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.elnacional.com/entretenimiento/murio-gerry-weil/">El Nacional</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:NoonIcarus" title="User:NoonIcarus">NoonIcarus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NoonIcarus" title="User talk:NoonIcarus">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NoonIcarus&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGerry+Weil%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gerry+Weil&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Austrian-born Venezuelan jazz musician. <a href="/wiki/User:NoonIcarus" title="User:NoonIcarus">NoonIcarus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NoonIcarus" title="User talk:NoonIcarus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-NoonIcarus-20241117205400-RD:_Gerry_Weil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oppose Article is a stub, nothing about his personal life. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241117220300-NoonIcarus-20241117205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Pat_Koch_Thaler" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Pat_Koch_Thaler-November_16-20241117193200">(Posted) RD: Pat Koch Thaler</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Pat Koch Thaler">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Pat_Koch_Thaler" title="Pat Koch Thaler">Pat Koch Thaler</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Pat_Koch_Thaler" title="Talk:Pat Koch Thaler">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pat_Koch_Thaler&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pat_Koch_Thaler&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Pat+Koch+Thaler">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/nyregion/pat-koch-thaler-dead.html">NY Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TJMSmith&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BPat+Koch+Thaler%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Pat+Koch+Thaler&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American educator, author, and activist. <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TJMSmith-20241117193200-(Posted)_RD:_Pat_Koch_Thaler" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support Article is sufficiently cited and in good quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241117220400-TJMSmith-20241117193200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123065100-TJMSmith-20241117193200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Béla_Károlyi" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Béla_Károlyi-November_16-20241117022800">RD: Béla Károlyi</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: RD: Béla Károlyi">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/B%C3%A9la_K%C3%A1rolyi" title="Béla Károlyi">Béla Károlyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:B%C3%A9la_K%C3%A1rolyi" title="Talk:Béla Károlyi">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B%C3%A9la_K%C3%A1rolyi&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:B%C3%A9la_K%C3%A1rolyi&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=B%C3%A9la+K%C3%A1rolyi">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5926568/2024/11/16/bela-karolyi-gymnastics-coach-dies/">NY Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Estreyeria" title="User:Estreyeria">Estreyeria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Estreyeria" title="User talk:Estreyeria">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Estreyeria&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BB%C3%A9la+K%C3%A1rolyi%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=B%C3%A9la+K%C3%A1rolyi&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Romanian-American gymnastics coach of nine Olympic champions. Seems to be missing some citations. <a href="/wiki/User:Estreyeria" title="User:Estreyeria">Estreyeria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Estreyeria" title="User talk:Estreyeria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Estreyeria-20241117022800-RD:_Béla_Károlyi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Soft oppose article was looking good, until the 1999–2000 section, which is practically uncited. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241117035700-Estreyeria-20241117022800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Olav_Thon" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Olav_Thon-November_16-20241116133500">(Posted) RD: Olav Thon</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Olav Thon">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Olav_Thon" title="Olav Thon">Olav Thon</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Olav_Thon" title="Talk:Olav Thon">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olav_Thon&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Olav_Thon&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Olav+Thon">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://kommunikasjon.ntb.no/pressemelding/18324524/olav-thon-1923-2024?publisherId=8983491&lang=no">NTB</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BOlav+Thon%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Olav+Thon&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Jkaharper" title="User:Jkaharper">Jkaharper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jkaharper" title="User talk:Jkaharper">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jkaharper&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BOlav+Thon%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Olav+Thon&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Marius1603" title="User:Marius1603">Marius1603</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marius1603" title="User talk:Marius1603">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Marius1603&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BOlav+Thon%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Olav+Thon&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500-(Posted)_RD:_Olav_Thon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li><s>Weak Oppose</s>: Short, could be lengthened by translating sourced material from the corresponding Norwegian article first, it has additional 14 citations at least. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241116150300-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a>: How about now? Added an early life section. <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116153400-ExclusiveEditor-20241116150300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support Looks well sourced. For a 101 year old his bio could be longer, but this will suffice. <a href="/wiki/User:Shanes" title="User:Shanes">Shanes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shanes" title="User talk:Shanes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Shanes-20241116173700-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd> <dd>Support Looks like a long enough article and well sourced. - <a href="/wiki/User:Sebbog13" title="User:Sebbog13">Sebbog13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebbog13" title="User talk:Sebbog13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sebbog13-20241117030800-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support Article looks good. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241117035800-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted – <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120174700-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241116133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud-November_16-20241116110600">RD: Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: RD: Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud" title="Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud">Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud" title="Talk:Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/somali/articles/c4g72lp3zrro.amp">(BBC Somali)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.voasomali.com/a/7866075.html">(VOA Somali)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eastleighvoice.co.ke/national/89978/former-somaliland-president-siilaanyo-is-dead?amp=1">(The Eastleigh Voice)</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:QalasQalas" title="User:QalasQalas">QalasQalas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QalasQalas" title="User talk:QalasQalas">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:QalasQalas&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAhmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User:Mohamad Darilin">Mohamad Darilin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User talk:Mohamad Darilin">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAhmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAhmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+Mohamed+Mohamoud&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: The former Somaliland president died on November 15, coverage of his death started on November 16. The overall article seems well-cited with reliable and primary citations needed for some awards. <a href="/wiki/User:QalasQalas" title="User:QalasQalas">QalasQalas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QalasQalas" title="User talk:QalasQalas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-QalasQalas-20241116110600-RD:_Ahmed_Mohamed_Mohamoud" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oppose overall article looks good at a glance, until you notice a bunch of paragraphs with no citation. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241117030700-QalasQalas-20241116110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References">References</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: References">edit</a>]</div> Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:External_Links#How_to_link" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:External Links">inline URL syntax</a> <code>[http://example.com]</code> rather than using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE#How_to_format_inline_citations" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE"><code><ref></ref></code> tags</a>, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process. 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