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Kurylko of <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://www.autoweek.com/" onclick="return Msn.Navigation.OpenNew(this)">AutoWeek</a></cite></p></div><div id="abody" class="articlebody"><div class="parent insert chrome6 single1 float2 cf" style="width:429px;"><div class="child c1 first"><div class="img"><div><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/photopopup.aspx?cp-documentid=1077876&amp;mediaid=c812f7d087a14e19beaaebf796c3f155" onclick="return Msn.Navigation.OpenPopup(event, this,'width=930,height=560,menubar=0,toolbar=0,scrollbars=0','msnVDW','rf')"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/Media/425x255/c8/c812f7d087a14e19beaaebf796c3f155.jpg" width="425" height="255" alt="2009 smart fortwo (© smart USA)" class="img1"/><span class="click">Click to enlarge picture</span></a></p><p class="abs"><p>Smart offers 36 low monthly payments — with a whopper ($6,667) due at the end.</p></p></div></div></div></div><p>Hoping to benefit from the federal cash-for-guzzlers program, smart USA has set up a $99 monthly payment for buyers who use their $4,500 rebate.</p><p>But there's a catch — and a hefty balloon payment disclosed only as a note to an asterisk in smart's press information announcing the offer. The <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://autos.msn.com/browse/Smart.aspx">smart</a> financing is for $99 a month for 36 months, with a balloon payment of $6,667 due at the end.</p><p>Dave Schembri, president of smart USA, says the payments are calculated on a $13,335 fortwo model with air conditioning and includes shipping. Smart has set aside about 1,500 cars for the program, he says.</p><p>Schembri says the <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/default.aspx?make=Smart&amp;model=fortwo" class="VipModelYearSelMM">fortwo</a> will have a 50 percent residual value after 36 months. The fortwo has a combined fuel economy of 36 mpg.</p><p>The rebate legislation, scheduled to go into effect this summer, requires that the car being scrapped have a combined mpg of 18 or less to get the maximum $4,500 incentive if the vehicle being purchased gets at least 10 mpg more than the old one.</p><p>Schembri defends the balloon payment, saying that kind of financing is part of the offerings by Daimler Financial Services — the captive finance arm of Daimler AG, which makes smart.</p><div id="dataproviderfooter"><div class="copyright"> Content provided by <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://www.autoweek.com/" onclick="return Msn.Navigation.OpenPopup(this)">AutoWeek</a>.<br></br> Get more <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://www.autoweek.com/section/carnews" onclick="return Msn.Navigation.OpenPopup(this)">Car News</a> from AutoWeek.<br></br> Get the latest <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://www.autoweek.com/section/carreviews" onclick="return Msn.Navigation.OpenPopup(this)">Car Reviews</a> from AutoWeek.<br></br> </div></div></div><div id="recbottom" class="parent chrome2 single1"><strong class="h2">Related Content</strong><div class="child c1 first"><ul class="linklist14 cf"><li class="first"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/listarticle.aspx?cp-documentid=1068789">2010 Model Year Preview</a></li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/listarticle.aspx?cp-documentid=1076425">10 Most User-Recommended Automobiles</a></li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/listarticle.aspx?cp-documentid=1075373">A Convertible for Any Occasion </a></li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1075850">GM Cars Get Zero-Percent Financing</a></li><li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1072785">Five Ways Your Car Can Drive Itself</a></li><li class="last"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1071844">Lexus Tops J.D. 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The rebate will make your trade-in value up to $4500 on a qualifying vehicle. If your trade is worth $4400, you get an extra $100. If your trade is worth nothing, THEN you can get up to $4500, IF your vehicle qualifies.<br/></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31335969&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb1" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb1',31335969,12451418);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31323366" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=10077511&amp;md=ic">Olds13</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #2</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:17:32 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en"><h5> <div>where's all that chatter about how american car companies suck? Oh, wait you won't find it here because we are talking about an import, and imports never are a bad deal because they aren't made my money-hungry, evil american workers....</div></h5>chevmom; we don't care much for this car either!&#160; Neither does Daimler and they built it.&#160; Apparantly the buying public doesn't care much for it either!&#160; That's why they are trying to use smoke and mirrors to temp the unsuspecting buyers - As for the car itself, well it speaks volumes for what it isn't.&#160;</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31323366&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb2" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb2',31323366,10077511);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31322524" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=10077511&amp;md=ic">Olds13</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #3</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:57:01 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">Yet another stab at deceiving the driving public.&#160; If you can't get the buying public to put on rose colored glasses and ignore the mediocre mileage stats, the hyper-inflated price, all the standard 'options' like power windows and central locking in a 4 ft wide cabin, hello?, the lack of space and the awful ride qualities, tempt them with impossible pricing!&#160; Yeah, that's it!&#160; Get them to sign for $99 per month and quickly glass over the final payment.&#160; Smart!&#160; Oops ... this is the 'Smart' car isn't it?&#160; proving not so smart after all, perhaps that is why Daimler divested themselves from it long ago!</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31322524&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb3" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb3',31322524,10077511);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31322455" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=8690731&amp;md=ic">Marc Hamady</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #4</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:55:38 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en"><p>Wow, so much for that.&#160; And now, they just want you to pay the price for that.&#160; I would like to know how much the monthly payments would be without that "balloon payment"!</p></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31322455&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb4" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb4',31322455,8690731);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31297864" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=1475853&amp;md=ic">kurt013</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #5</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:19:47 PM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">It appears to be set up as a lease.&#160; A lease is not a purchase, you (lessee) pay a fee each month to use the item for a set time period, then it reverts back to the lessor.&#160; Sometimes you have the option to purchase the item at the end of the lease term for its projected fair market value.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31297864&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb5" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb5',31297864,1475853);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31284309" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=10647762&amp;md=ic">Indigo Halo </a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #6</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:33:07 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">So, nobody at the financing department predicts a lot of defaults after the 35th month, right? This is the kind of loan that screwed up the housing market (2% for 36 months, 8% thereafter on a $400,000 McMansion). Baloon payment loans should be outlawed because the people who sign up for them are people that, by definition, cannot afford the cars; if they could, they'd have signed a $300/month 36-month loan with no baloon payment</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31284309&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb6" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb6',31284309,10647762);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31283256" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=62124&amp;md=ic">The Boss of them ALL</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #7</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:10:08 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en"><p>Ramon Viggiani <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/mailto:-rviggian@hotmail.com" title="mailto:-rviggian@hotmail.com">-rviggian@hotmail.com</a>-</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>Well...It looks like we will have around 1,500 smartcars up for sale for around $6,667, I think I'll wait.</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>But hey, the $4,500 cash for clunkers should go in addition to what the clunker is valued in the blue book.<img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/teeth_smile.gif" alt="Open-mouthed" class="emoticon"/><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/teeth_smile.gif" alt="Open-mouthed" class="emoticon"/><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/teeth_smile.gif" alt="Open-mouthed" class="emoticon"/></p> <p>So,&#160;if I trade my 2002 Mountaineer, that has a Trade in Value of $8,000, plus those $4,500, that's $12,500. So technically, the Smart-car should only cost me: $835 TOTAL!</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>Am I the only one seeing this????????????????</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>There is something else very very wrong with the whole thing <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/sad_smile.gif" alt="Sad" class="emoticon"/><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/sad_smile.gif" alt="Sad" class="emoticon"/><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839im_/http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/sad_smile.gif" alt="Sad" class="emoticon"/>, my wife who just graduated to be a&#160;public first grade teacher, has a very economical "gas wise" 2001 Kia Spectra, that is falling apart inside and out. Why would someone that is risking her life each and every day to go work at a Title One impoverished public school ,&#160; not have the same opportunity as well?</p> <p>&#160;</p> <p>You see, there is not much room to grow your salary&#160;as an elementary teacher,&#160;if she can not afford a new car now, there is a high chance she wont be able to afford it next year, or the year after that, and so forth.</p> <p>&#160;</p></div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31283256&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb7" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb7',31283256,62124);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31281542" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=12435064&amp;md=ic">Rogue Welder</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #8</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:30:52 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">Am I the only one that sees the (6,66)7 in the balloon payment?&#160; So what if you can't afford that at the end, you go straight to hell?&#160; I mean come on already!&#160; Isn't that balloon payment idea that destroyed the housing market?&#160; I have a better idea....drop the damn prices of vehicles and housing to a reasonable rate that MOST Americans can afford.&#160; Buy American...., but the CEO's of those (the BIG 3) companies will never convince me that it costs $30,000 for a car that looks like it should be around $10,000.&#160; Even with the over-inflated wages the Union Employee thinks he needs.&#160; I believe that all the officers of the corporation feel they have to go to Cabo every summer.&#160; STOP gouging the honest working mans' wallet and try and be honest yourselves!.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31281542&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb8" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb8',31281542,12435064);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFr"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31279201" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=4473502&amp;md=ic">crxdriver</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #9</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:35:36 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">So what do us Honda CRX driver get for trading in our cars that getup to 45 miles a gallon?&#160; I would like a new car, that will not cost a arm and a leg to buy.</div></div><div class="iucCmActPnl"><ul class="iucUsrActList"><li><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Reply_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f9('https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/post.aspx?fid=16&amp;tid=1183984&amp;pty=0&amp;par=31279201&amp;cid=3ghwckfcausycg4xpncw7ee0fwe0c2ea&amp;cpp=10&amp;otn=0&amp;ppn=ucpg&amp;pip=ucid');">Reply</a></li><li class="last"><a class="iucHdLnk iucCmActPnlLnk" id="_iucRptAb9" onclick="_iuc2Om2('MSNPortalInlineComments', 'Report_Abuse_Click');" href="javascript:_uc2f61('_iucRptAb9',31279201,4473502);">Report Abuse</a></li></ul></div></div><div class="iucCmFrAlt"><div class="iucCmUsrInfo"><div><div class="iucNkNm"><a name="uc2Lst31276857" class="iucHdLnk iucCmUsrLnk" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090709202839/http://boards.msn.com/profile.aspx?ForumID=16&amp;UserID=3930911&amp;md=ic">chevmom</a></div><div class="iucCmNo"><span class="iucCmIndx"> #10</span></div></div><div class="iucCmDt">Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:37:52 AM</div></div><div class="iucCmArea"><div class="iucCmBdy-en">where's all that chatter about how american car companies suck? 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