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p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>探寻被偶像化之前的苏格拉底</p> <p>以这位伟大思想家充满爱与热情的一生</p> <p>讲述雅典娜之城的权力、财富、战争与衰亡的史诗</p> <p>---------------------------------------------------------</p> <p>◎内容简介</p> <p>公元前399年5月的一天，日头轻快地升上彭特利山，500名雅典公民匆匆穿过泥砖房、公共澡堂和雅典娜胜利神庙，直奔宗教法庭。他们将要审判一位特立独行的老人——苏格拉底。他被控“不敬神”和“腐化青年”，很可能被判处死刑。因此，他必须站在陪审团面前，为自己的生命辩护。</p> <p>苏格拉底的一生动荡不安。他从卑微的石匠之子成长为一名战士和一位哲学家。他没有在恢弘壮丽的学园、宫廷里思考，却在鞋匠店里演讲。他喜欢在雅典街头赤脚漫步，随机向人提问，质疑习以为常的观念。他担心追求富足会招致盲目的享乐主义，而“民主”则会沦为争斗的托辞。他关心生...</p><p><a href="javascript:void(0)" class="j a_show_full">(展开全部)</a></p></div> </span> <span class="all hidden"> <div class=""> <style type="text/css" media="screen"> .intro p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>探寻被偶像化之前的苏格拉底</p> <p>以这位伟大思想家充满爱与热情的一生</p> <p>讲述雅典娜之城的权力、财富、战争与衰亡的史诗</p> <p>---------------------------------------------------------</p> <p>◎内容简介</p> <p>公元前399年5月的一天，日头轻快地升上彭特利山，500名雅典公民匆匆穿过泥砖房、公共澡堂和雅典娜胜利神庙，直奔宗教法庭。他们将要审判一位特立独行的老人——苏格拉底。他被控“不敬神”和“腐化青年”，很可能被判处死刑。因此，他必须站在陪审团面前，为自己的生命辩护。</p> <p>苏格拉底的一生动荡不安。他从卑微的石匠之子成长为一名战士和一位哲学家。他没有在恢弘壮丽的学园、宫廷里思考，却在鞋匠店里演讲。他喜欢在雅典街头赤脚漫步，随机向人提问，质疑习以为常的观念。他担心追求富足会招致盲目的享乐主义，而“民主”则会沦为争斗的托辞。他关心生命和真理，关心美德是什么。</p> <p>然而，这个西方伟大的思想家却没有留下任何书面文字，他本人始终是一个谜团。为了还原他的一生，贝塔妮·休斯走遍希腊的考古现场，带我们来到古代雅典人的家庭、街道、会场、酒宴，结识政客、将军、商人、工匠，参观热闹非凡的市政广场，走进举办大赛的竞技场，参与雅典神圣的宗教节日，重构苏格拉底生活过的世界。</p> <p>最后，苏格拉底迎来的是一杯毒酒，等待雅典引以为傲之文明的却是战争、内讧和衰败，是古典精神的堕落。苏格拉底问道：我去死，你们去生，哪个更好？何为正当的生活？如果我们不幸福，城墙、战舰和恢弘的雕像意义何在？这是人类文明的大哉问。</p> <p>---------------------------------------------------------</p> <p>◎作品看点</p> <p>★打破单维度、抽象化的刻板印象，寻找历史上真实存在过的苏格拉底</p> <p>关于苏格拉底的记载只鳞片爪，他在绝大多数人的认知里只是一个偶像、一些耳熟能详的只言片语，或者是勇敢地反对不公正社会的象征符号。然而，真实的苏格拉底是石匠与接产妇的儿子，出生于雅典城外的边缘地区，面貌丑陋、大腹便便，一年四季只穿一件破旧长袍。他曾披甲执盾，作为一名战士奔赴战场，也曾与漂亮的男孩亚西比得成为情人。他明白自身的脆弱和愚蠢，智慧、正义却也不乏自我陶醉、滑稽和喜剧性。他像许许多多普通人一样生活并热爱着世界，只是他从不放弃思考与追问，永远寻求着真理、美德与良好的生活。</p> <p>★一部伯罗奔尼撒战争从开始到结束、雅典民主从建立到衰败的恢弘史诗</p> <p>伯罗奔尼撒战争是古希腊历史上最悲壮的战争，也是西方文明的转折点。苏格拉底就生活在这场希腊世界最大的内战期间，目睹了雅典民主的兴盛与衰落，观察着人性的光辉与黑暗。希波战争的胜利鼓舞了雅典人，让自由与民主成为雅典人民的骄傲，但随后发生的德里昂之战、米洛斯屠杀、西西里远征、阿吉纽西战役以及三十僭主政变等事件，却让雅典民主一步一步走向残暴与疯狂。本书对雅典历史上转折性事件的梳理，让苏格拉底的一生与雅典民主的堕落成为相互交织的两条主线，在精彩的历史叙事中展现出战争的残酷、民主的脆弱、自由的珍贵和智慧的力量。</p> <p>★以大量考古新材料，还原苏格拉底的生活世界</p> <p>哲学史通常强调苏格拉底赞扬灵魂而贬抑肉身，但事实上，他并没有将物质身体与哲学思考分开，反而热情地体验着现实生活。为了更贴近苏格拉底，作者追随他的脚步穿越希腊大陆，观察苏格拉底本人可能见过的自然风景和城市景观，感受他可能体验过的声音和气味，寻找他可能在雅典使用过或见过的物品（考古发掘出的硬币、建筑遗迹、莎草纸、工具、香料等）。通过结合实地考察、考古发现和文献等各类材料，本书使用生动的语言和大量场景化描述，让读者能够身临其境地探索苏格拉底所处的物质景观，并由此想象他的生活。</p> <p>★以雅典人的视角，再现“苏格拉底审判”背后的复杂历史</p> <p>苏格拉底之死是思想史上最著名的死亡之一，标志着民主雅典的衰落与希腊黄金时代的消逝，也深刻影响着后世无数思想家与艺术家。本书以苏格拉底审判为起点和终点，通过还原雅典的现实政治、相互冲突的理念、独特的法律体系和宗教思想，试图以雅典人的视角呈现苏格拉底审判及其死亡时的基调、氛围、味道、气息，以及涌动的暗流。苏格拉底的一生都对雅典人产生巨大的影响力，而说到底，正是他对人类的热爱促成了他的死亡。他至死都仍相信，我们所有人都值得更加良善的生活。</p> <p>★重构群星璀璨的古雅典，全方位展现那逝去的黄金时代</p> <p>苏格拉底生活在“希腊奇迹”年代，雅典崭新的圆顶会议厅和雅典娜青铜像拔地而起，这座繁荣的城邦控制着庞大的“提洛同盟”，并使财富充满了帕特农神庙。剧作家索福克勒斯、阿里斯托芬，历史学家色诺芬、希罗多德、修昔底德，哲学家巴门尼德、芝诺、德谟克利特、阿那克萨戈拉等群星聚集在雅典，创造出无数的艺术、文学与哲学珍品。本书描述了一个辉煌的雅典黄金时代，遍览其深广的军事、文化和社会景观，呈现古典时代最伟大的城市之一——古雅典那繁忙、神奇、悲惨的70年。</p> <p>★入围英国作家协会奖，《纽约时报》畅销书，被多家媒体评为年度最佳图书</p> <p>---------------------------------------------------------</p> <p>◎推荐语</p> <p>这部杰作是公元前5世纪雅典生动的政治和社会史。贝塔妮·休斯唤醒了一座沉浸在变革中的城市，回顾民主、新财富和权力的黄金时代，进入一个饱受战争和内斗折磨的世纪……（她）描绘了苏格拉底作为一个了不起的怪人的画面，赤脚在街上漫步，与陌生人交谈，拒绝顺从……（这本书）是当今的一座有关古典哲学与艺术的充满趣味性的灯塔。</p> <p>——英国《泰晤士报》</p> <p>休斯提供的是更为重要的东西：苏格拉底的一生和他的时代，质感丰富、氛围感十足，令人回味无穷，使这个人成为所有哲学家中最神秘的一个。在本书的结尾，我们几乎可以看到和闻到这个男人，发现他所有的怪癖和弱点，以及受到质疑的才华。</p> <p>——美国《纽约时报》</p> <p>休斯散文式的写法有如富有文学色彩的电脑成像，为读者再现了古典城市的喧嚣和炫目多彩……有时我们会在她的带领下穿过现代雅典的街道，有时穿过考古遗址，有时进入博物馆的地下室，那里隐藏着稀有的宝藏。她不遗余力地展示栩栩如生的苏格拉底的世界，她的作品真正地体现了生动的古希腊风貌。</p> <p>——英国《观察家报》</p></div> </div> </span> </div> <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://img3.doubanio.com/cuphead/book-static/subject/authors_section.6a54a.css"> <h2> <h2> <span>毒堇之杯的创作者</span> ······ </h2> </h2> <div class="indent"> <p></p> <div id="authors" class="authors"> <ul class="authors-list from-subject __oneline"> <li class="author"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4617332/" title="贝塔尼·休斯"> <img src="https://img1.doubanio.com/view/celebrity/m/public/pKTMawW7XVSQcel_avatar_uploaded1586486958.09.jpg" alt="贝塔尼·休斯" class="avatar"> </a> <div class="info"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4617332/" title="贝塔尼·休斯" class="name">贝塔尼·休斯</a> <span class="role">作者</span> </div> </li> <li class="author"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4614979/" title="李磊"> <img src="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/vendors/8dd0c794499fe925ae2ae89ee30cd225750457b4/pics/personage-default-medium.png" alt="李磊" class="avatar"> </a> <div class="info"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4614979/" title="李磊" class="name">李磊</a> <span class="role">译者</span> </div> </li> <li class="author fake fake4"></li> </ul> </div> </div> <h2> <span>作者简介</span> ······ </h2> <div class="indent "> <div class=""> <style type="text/css" media="screen"> .intro p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>作者：</p> <p>贝塔妮·休斯（Bettany Hughes)，历史学家、作家，英国广播公司主持人，专长于古代及中世纪历史与文化，长年在牛津大学和剑桥大学任教，亦为伦敦古物家协会会员、伦敦国王学院研究员、伦敦新人文学院客座教授等，曾任奥兰治小说奖主席、布克国际小说奖主席，获评BBC100位全球女性之一，获颁希腊金十字皇家勋章、国际新闻奖、大英帝国勋章、英国历史学会的诺顿梅德利科历史奖，也是有史以来第一位获颁海伦娜·瓦兹·德席尔瓦欧洲文化遗产奖的女性。</p> <p>译者：</p> <p>李磊，人文社科类图书译者，译有《向您告知，明天我们一家就要被杀：卢旺达大屠杀纪事》《对民主之恨》《金斯伯格访谈录：RBG给未来世代的声音》《汉娜·阿伦特：爱与恶》《岛上寻星》等。</p></div> </div> </div> <h2> <span>目录</span> ······ </h2> <div class="indent" id="dir_36629468_short"> 序<br/> 引言<br/> 苏格拉底的戏剧故事——来源与方法<br/> 苏格拉底的记录者<br/> 地图<br/> 第一幕　雅典城<br/> · · · · · · (<a href="javascript:$('#dir_36629468_short').hide();$('#dir_36629468_full').show();$.get('/j/subject/j_dir_count',{id:36629468});void(0);">更多</a>) </div> <div class="indent" id="dir_36629468_full" style="display:none"> 序<br/> 引言<br/> 苏格拉底的戏剧故事——来源与方法<br/> 苏格拉底的记录者<br/> 地图<br/> 第一幕　雅典城<br/> 1　水钟：受审时刻<br/> 2　雅典娜之城<br/> 3　雅典市政广场的苏格拉底<br/> 4　国王柱廊<br/> 5　开场血祭<br/> 6　制约、平衡和魔法师<br/> 7　劝说或听从<br/> 8　珀伊托，劝说的力量<br/> 第二幕　青年苏格拉底<br/> 9　阿洛佩克：一位哲学家的诞生<br/> 10　凯拉米克斯——陶工和美少年<br/> 11　伯里克利：高尚社会，与作为高尚剧场的民主<br/> 12　提洛岛和一个帝国的诞生<br/> 13　帝国野望<br/> 14　漫步河边，在体育场里挥汗：苏格拉底的青年时代<br/> 15　体育场中锤炼出的战士<br/> 16　“黄金时代”的雅典<br/> 17　阿斯帕西娅：智慧与权谋<br/> 第三幕　士兵苏格拉底<br/> 18　萨摩斯<br/> 19　大展拳脚<br/> 20　士兵苏格拉底<br/> 21　魔鬼与德性<br/> 22　瘟疫<br/> 第四幕　新的众神，新的可能性：中年苏格拉底<br/> 23　猫头鹰银币和一只聪明的猫头鹰<br/> 24　雅典市政广场里的夸夸其谈<br/> 25　民主、自由权和言论自由<br/> 26　美好生活——入夜之后<br/> 27　德尔斐，神谕<br/> 28　认识你自己<br/> 29　贵族派、民主派与战争实况<br/> 第五幕　战斗继续<br/> 30　伯罗奔尼撒战争第二阶段——一场混乱的围攻<br/> 31　贬与褒<br/> 32　安菲波利斯<br/> 第六幕　苏格拉底与爱<br/> 33　《会饮篇》中的苏格拉底<br/> 34　爱的烦恼<br/> 35　噢，告诉我爱的真相吧<br/> 36　蒂奥提玛——一位入世极深的女祭司<br/> 37　小熊<br/> 38　赞西佩<br/> 39　亚西比得：头戴紫冠、目眩神迷<br/> 第七幕　砍倒最高的黍穗<br/> 40　米洛斯<br/> 41　受虐的断臂维纳斯<br/> 42　无意义的祭司：玩火<br/> 43　西西里<br/> 44　血染长河<br/> 45　狄凯里亚——封矿<br/> 46　恐怖时刻<br/> 47　阿吉纽西——卓尔不群<br/> 48　高大的罂粟，砍断黍穗<br/> 49　三十僭主<br/> 第八幕　苏格拉底的审判与死亡<br/> 50　替罪羊<br/> 51　一场申辩<br/> 52　暮光与曙光中的提洛岛<br/> 53　披枷戴锁的苏格拉底<br/> 54　遁离尘世<br/> 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As, for example, joy and such pleasures are harmless and nothing results from them afterwards save to have and to hold enjoyment. He used to praise leisure as the most valuable of possessions, as Xenophon tells us in his Symposium. (<a href="https://book.douban.com/annotation/12620751/">查看原文</a>) <div class="blockquote-extra"> <div class='blockquote-meta'> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/1992729/" class="author-avatar"> <img width="20" height="20" src="https://img3.doubanio.com/icon/u1992729-23.jpg"> </a> <a class="author-name" href="https://www.douban.com/people/1992729/">emery</a> <datetime>2011-05-01 02:15:56</datetime> </div> <figcaption title="引自第73页"> —— 引自第73页 </figcaption> </div> </figure> </li> <li> <figure> 诽谤似乎就这么随着她的呼吸迅速流传开来，要知道她可是民主雅典最为青睐的女神之一。历史忽视了她，但对雅典人来说，珀伊托就是城中的一个传奇般的存在，是法庭上的一个永恒的角色。在任何民主社会中，劝说的力量都不应被低估。 (<a href="https://book.douban.com/annotation/138281683/">查看原文</a>) <div class="blockquote-extra"> <div class='blockquote-meta'> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/44226147/" class="author-avatar"> <img width="20" height="20" src="https://img3.doubanio.com/icon/u44226147-23.jpg"> </a> <a class="author-name" href="https://www.douban.com/people/44226147/">NEKO</a> <datetime>2024-10-22 21:52:47</datetime> </div> <figcaption title="引自章节：8　珀伊托，劝说的力量"> —— 引自章节：8　珀伊托，劝说的力量 </figcaption> </div> </figure> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://img1.doubanio.com/f/vendors/d3286d0338321a30703fd7b45f473a45b01115e9/css/ui/tag.css"> <div id="db-tags-section" class="blank20"> <h2> <span>豆瓣成员常用的标签</span> ······ </h2> <div class="indent"> <span class=""> <a class=" tag" href="/tag/哲学">哲学</a>   </span> <span class=""> <a class=" tag" href="/tag/历史">历史</a>   </span> <span class=""> <a class=" tag" href="/tag/古希腊">古希腊</a>   </span> <span class=""> <a class=" tag" href="/tag/传记">传记</a>   </span> </div> </div> <div id="rec-ebook-section" class="block5 subject_show"> <h2> <span>喜欢读"毒堇之杯"的人也喜欢的电子书</span> ······ </h2> <div class="tips-mod"> 支持 Web、iPhone、iPad、Android 阅读器 </div> <div class="content clearfix"> <dl> <dt> <a href="https://read.douban.com/ebook/403574296/?dcs=subject-rec&dcm=douban&dct=36629468" target="_blank"> <span class="cover-outer"> <img 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id="score"> <ul> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4026291476"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4026291476" class="vote-count">1</span> <a id="btn-4026291476" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4026291476">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/linkinmars/">摇滚死兔子本不应该是一个顽主</a> <span class="user-stars allstar50 rating" title="力荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4026291476">2024-01-19 13:49:17</a> <span class="comment-location">北京</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">独特，饱满，充满时代侧写，像是一部生动的历史剧。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4026291476"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4143486197"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4143486197" class="vote-count">1</span> <a id="btn-4143486197" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4143486197">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/251691772/">Pizarnic</a> <span class="user-stars allstar30 rating" title="还行"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4143486197">2024-03-31 00:07:56</a> <span class="comment-location">浙江</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">历史的堆积不代表历史的还原，理性的叙述不代表精神的再现，我没有感觉到一个历史工作者的人文情怀，对于苏格拉底的追溯更像是一种文本的任务，围绕苏格拉底之死根本没有认真解读《申辩》中的苏背后哲学和政治之间的张力，我看到的是肤浅的机械的文本的引用和撰述，当做历史科普看看可以，真正想要了解苏还是需要深入原著本身。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4143486197"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4139578637"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4139578637" class="vote-count">1</span> <a id="btn-4139578637" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4139578637">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/140217599/">israfel</a> <span class="user-stars allstar30 rating" title="还行"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4139578637">2024-03-26 22:25:05</a> <span class="comment-location">上海</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">揉杂了古希腊的神话风俗和人文地理，以及雅典民主的兴衰。作为传记，有点拖沓，作为散文，十分优美。吊诡的是，你若想一窥苏格拉底的哲学思想，基本为零。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4139578637"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4079819930"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4079819930" class="vote-count">2</span> <a id="btn-4079819930" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4079819930">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/kurillaz123/">麒麟</a> <span class="user-stars allstar30 rating" title="还行"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4079819930">2024-02-04 11:48:31</a> <span class="comment-location">北京</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">有点在门口徘徊就是不迈进去的感觉，写的怎么说呢，比较凌乱，好像作者一直迟迟不愿意去谈论核心问题，全是话佐料的感觉，拼凑和车轱辘话的嫌疑很大。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4079819930"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4067148864"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4067148864" class="vote-count">10</span> <a id="btn-4067148864" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4067148864">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/62513788/">宝木笑</a> <span class="user-stars allstar40 rating" title="推荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4067148864">2024-01-23 14:06:10</a> <span class="comment-location">山东</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">苏格拉底死了，死在了公民陪审团的投票中，360票对140票，他该死。也死在了政治里，以克里提阿斯为首的三十僭主集团执政8个月，实行专制，人民奋起反抗，推翻极权统治，清算反动余孽，不巧，克里提亚斯是苏格拉底早年的学生。他死在了嚼碎的舌根里，他出身卑微，相貌丑陋，身材不好，衣品也差，却慢慢成了红人，越来越多的人成了他的学生，他竟敢成为年轻人的偶像？竟然还说自己不是老师，玩儿不立文字那一套，贱人就是矫情...</span> <span class="hide-item full">苏格拉底死了，死在了公民陪审团的投票中，360票对140票，他该死。也死在了政治里，以克里提阿斯为首的三十僭主集团执政8个月，实行专制，人民奋起反抗，推翻极权统治，清算反动余孽，不巧，克里提亚斯是苏格拉底早年的学生。他死在了嚼碎的舌根里，他出身卑微，相貌丑陋，身材不好，衣品也差，却慢慢成了红人，越来越多的人成了他的学生，他竟敢成为年轻人的偶像？竟然还说自己不是老师，玩儿不立文字那一套，贱人就是矫情！也死在了异样的眼光里，原本逃跑的一切都准备好了，最后竟然整西楚霸王那一套，不肯过江东，愚蠢愚蠢！只是，很多年后他的学生柏拉图想起老师依然会潸然泪下，一边流泪一边写下《理想国》，在书里，老师还活着，仍像平日里那样和大家毫无架子地热烈讨论，他知道老师一生最大的愿望其实就是好好活着……</span> <span class="expand">(<a href="javascript:;">展开</a>)</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4067148864"></div> </div> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="comment-list time noshow" id="time"> <ul> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4343690752"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4343690752" class="vote-count">0</span> <a id="btn-4343690752" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4343690752">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/astridchan/">解压</a> <span class="user-stars allstar40 rating" title="推荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4343690752">2024-11-14 16:27:37</a> <span class="comment-location">美国</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">最后苏格拉底审判写得像着急交稿下班，有点一笔带过的简略感，我还以为这应该是重头戏。可能考古资料不多没什么发挥余地。其他问题主要是对于某些历史事件的剖析论断显得迷之草率而天真，譬如把雅典城邦的衰落归因为民众的嫉妒和傲慢，理由单纯到甚至有些高尚，这像在写什么不食人间烟火的理想主义电视剧本。（其实这种命题在本书内容框架下完全可以不涛，就非得提炼这么一下</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36629468/?comment_id=4343690752"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4337894883"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4337894883" class="vote-count">0</span> <a id="btn-4337894883" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4337894883">有用</a> </span> 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