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DiscussionHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="AppleInsider" href="/profile/12836/AppleInsider" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/044/n2YP8S2JOU0CV.jpg" alt="AppleInsider" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/12836/AppleInsider" class="Username">AppleInsider</a> </span> </div> <div class="Meta DiscussionMeta"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> Posted: <time title="March 13, 2024 3:22PM" datetime="2024-03-13T15:22:11+00:00">March 13, 2024 3:22PM</time> </span> <br /> <span class="MItem Category"> in <a href="https://forums.appleinsider.com/categories/airtags">AirTag</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <p>A worksman left his car keys on the dash, and the vehicle was promptly stolen. Apple's <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/airtags?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums" title="AirTag">AirTag</a> came to the rescue.<br /><br /></p><div style="margin: auto;"><img src="https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/46672-91009-000-lead-AirTag-xl.jpg" alt="" height="720" /><br /><span></span></div><p><br /><br />Builder Paul Conway from Leeds in England has told local news site <em>Leeds Live</em> that at Christmas, his wife <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/stolen-car-apple-tracker-leeds-28792990">had bought</a> a four-pack of <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/inside/airtags?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums" title="AirTags">AirTags</a> for their keys. With one spare, he had decided to leave it in his Nissan Pathfinder SUV just in case he ever forget where he had parked it.<br /><br />Months later, one of his workers who had been using the car, told him that it had been stolen. "I started shaking, I couldn't believe it as the car is my pride and joy," said Conway.<br /><br />"I was just sat there shaking and I remembered I had the AirTag in my car," he continued, "so I went onto the app and saw it heading out of Leeds and into Bradford."<br /><br />"We followed the signal and phoned the police, who offered to drive me around looking for it," said Conway. "It was just there, hidden on a quiet residential street."<br /><br />It's <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/05/03/new-york-and-san-antonio-cops-differ-on-tracking-stolen-cars-with-airtags?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums">dangerous to pursue thieves</a>, but in this case Conway had police help -- and also greater motivation than solely retrieving the car. <br /><br />"I knew [the worker had] left the keys on the seat so it wouldn't have been insured," he said. "So I would have been devastated if I hadn't got it back because I wouldn't have been covered for it."<br /><br /></p><h2>Apple's AirTag can be used for good or evil</h2><p><br /><br />In this case, a $29 AirTag saved Conway the cost of replacing his SUV, which would have been a minimum of $35,000. Since their <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/04/23/airtag-and-purple-iphone-12-now-available-to-preorder?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums">launch in 2021</a>, Apple's AirTags have proved to be a truly revolutionary device that has saved money, recovered stolen cars, tracked lost luggage, and more.<br /><br />They have also been used for stalking, but Apple included anti-stalking measures at launch -- and it also brought attention to a troubling field. Rival tracking devices had been around for many years with no anti-stalking protection at all, but now <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/18/nine-years-after-launch-tile-adds-anti-stalking-features-that-airtag-had-from-the-start?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums">even those</a> are changing.<br /><br />It's still not enough and any one stalking incident is one too many. But, alongside heightened awareness, Apple has been steadily adding more protection.<br /><br />So overall, <em>AppleInsider</em> strongly recommends AirTags. As well as the direct and specific benefits when an item goes missing, the device also gives owners piece of mind.<br /><br />Since his incident, Conway says he's become an evangelist for AirTags, and that "loads of builders have said they are going to order them." He reports that a UK scaffolding company is now offering free AirTags to its customers, because of his experience.<br /><br />This is far from the first time an AirTag has led to the recovery of a stolen car, and it's not even the first time that it's been done with an SUV. In January 2024, a driver had his GMC Yukon XL stolen in Toronto -- and it then resurfaced <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/13/future-iphones-may-feature-interactive-sidewall-displays-with-virtual-buttons?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums">in Belgium</a>, some 3,745 miles way.<br /><br />In comparison, Paul Conway's Nissan Pathfinder was reportedly only taken five miles. <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/03/13/airtag-police-save-builder-from-massive-stolen-car-replacement-expense?utm_medium=social&utm_source=ai_forums">Read on AppleInsider</a></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <a id="first-reply" name="first-reply"></a></div><div class="CommentsWrap"><span class="BeforeCommentHeading"></span><div class="DataBox DataBox-Comments"><h2 class="CommentHeading">Comments</h2> <ul class="MessageList DataList Comments"> <li class="Item Alt ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441243"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 1 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="inkling" href="/profile/32530/inkling" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=61aa608eb95bf0c82e4aed337ef3497f&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F61aa608eb95bf0c82e4aed337ef3497f.png" alt="inkling" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/32530/inkling" class="Username">inkling</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>775</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441243/#Comment_3441243" class="Permalink" name="Item_1" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 13, 2024 5:27PM" datetime="2024-03-13T17:27:50+00:00">March 13, 2024 5:27PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> Builders often have valuable tools, chargers and other equipment stolen from construction sites. Apple would do well to come up with a wider variety of packages for AirTags, so they can be installed in more places. For instance I'd love to have a thin one that would slip in my wallet like a credit card.<br /><br />A company that makes heavy-duty power plugs might make one that can conceal an AirTag. It could replace the existing plug. </div> <span class="CommentLastUpdated"> <span title="Edited March 13, 2024 7:53PM by Marvin." class="DateUpdated">edited March 13</span> </span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441258"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 2 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="sflocal" href="/profile/51844/sflocal" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/169/nNP2PQHWANIZ7.jpg" alt="sflocal" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/51844/sflocal" class="Username">sflocal</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>6,135</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441258/#Comment_3441258" class="Permalink" name="Item_2" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 13, 2024 7:32PM" datetime="2024-03-13T19:32:20+00:00">March 13, 2024 7:32PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> I'd fire the employee for being that stupid/ignorant for leaving keys on the dashboard for the world to see.  There's victim-shaming, and there's those just asking for it. </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="15519" title="ronn - Like on March 13, 2024."><a title="ronn" href="/profile/15519/ronn" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/657/nG3AD53JUR9T7.jpg" alt="ronn" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="239837" title="jamnap - Like on March 14, 2024."><a title="jamnap" href="/profile/239837/jamnap" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=15a099587a297e02ba331c14923eee76&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F15a099587a297e02ba331c14923eee76.png" alt="jamnap" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="207038" title="jbdragon - Like on March 19, 2024."><a title="jbdragon" href="/profile/207038/jbdragon" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=fe2fad703171dc966bde28b210325b09&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ffe2fad703171dc966bde28b210325b09.png" alt="jbdragon" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span><li><script async src="https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/tag/js/gpt.js"></script> <script> window.googletag = window.googletag || {cmd: []}; 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Fully compatible with the Find My network. </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="37742" title="gregoriusm - Like on March 13, 2024."><a title="gregoriusm" href="/profile/37742/gregoriusm" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=512348097a887cdd5cf95b168f46eb61&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F512348097a887cdd5cf95b168f46eb61.png" alt="gregoriusm" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441273"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 4 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="chasm" href="/profile/204915/chasm" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=549b7768b550b2781efd453bc3679b38&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F549b7768b550b2781efd453bc3679b38.png" alt="chasm" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/204915/chasm" class="Username">chasm</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>3,597</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441273/#Comment_3441273" class="Permalink" name="Item_4" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 13, 2024 8:24PM" datetime="2024-03-13T20:24:08+00:00">March 13, 2024 8:24PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> I wonder if the thief was actually caught, since the story doesn’t say (nor does the original source report). Very odd bit of info to leave out. </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="239837" title="jamnap - Informative on March 14, 2024."><a title="jamnap" href="/profile/239837/jamnap" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=15a099587a297e02ba331c14923eee76&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F15a099587a297e02ba331c14923eee76.png" alt="jamnap" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-4 ReactInfo"></span></span><span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item Alt ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441307"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 5 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="steveau" href="/profile/206826/steveau" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/901/n1G5J0G2J39R8.jpg" alt="steveau" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/206826/steveau" class="Username">steveau</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>302</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441307/#Comment_3441307" class="Permalink" name="Item_5" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 12:15PM" datetime="2024-03-14T12:15:59+00:00">March 14, 2024 12:15PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <blockquote class="Quote"> <div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chasm</a> said:</div> <div>I wonder if the thief was actually caught, since the story doesn’t say (nor does the original source report). Very odd bit of info to leave out.</div> </blockquote> <p>"West <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/where/yorkshire/" title="Link: https://www.thesun.co.uk/where/yorkshire/">Yorkshire</a> Police confirmed that a report of a stolen car had been made on March 4 and that it was found "shortly after" in Bradford, but no suspect has yet been identified."</p><p>Looks like the crooks parked it in a safe place, either because they received a tracker alert, or just to retrieve it later.</p> </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441318"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 6 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="cfilipponi" href="/profile/239567/cfilipponi" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=eac943da81e2f5912f620754b3107969&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Feac943da81e2f5912f620754b3107969.png" alt="cfilipponi" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/239567/cfilipponi" class="Username">cfilipponi</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>11</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441318/#Comment_3441318" class="Permalink" name="Item_6" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 2:07PM" datetime="2024-03-14T14:07:07+00:00">March 14, 2024 2:07PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <span>"so I went onto the app and saw it heading out of Leeds and into Bradford."<br /></span><br />WOW  I've been trying to find where my car is and for the last 2 hours it has been at a red-light 2 miles from my house.  No Tracking ... No update ....  just sitting at the red-light.  PS it was there 2 hours ago (NOT NOW).  I guess it will update later in the day when it feels like it! </div> <li class="Item Alt ItemComment" id="Comment_3441340"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 7 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="VictorMortimer" href="/profile/255841/VictorMortimer" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/900/nHLQOH1PEELSD.jpg" alt="VictorMortimer" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/255841/VictorMortimer" class="Username">VictorMortimer</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>239</b></span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441340/#Comment_3441340" class="Permalink" name="Item_7" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 4:35PM" datetime="2024-03-14T16:35:59+00:00">March 14, 2024 4:35PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/204915/chasm">chasm</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">I wonder if the thief was actually caught, since the story doesn’t say (nor does the original source report). Very odd bit of info to leave out.</div> </blockquote> It's much more important to get your car back than to catch somebody.<br /> </div> <li class="Item ItemComment" id="Comment_3441341"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 8 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="VictorMortimer" href="/profile/255841/VictorMortimer" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/900/nHLQOH1PEELSD.jpg" alt="VictorMortimer" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/255841/VictorMortimer" class="Username">VictorMortimer</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>239</b></span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441341/#Comment_3441341" class="Permalink" name="Item_8" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 4:43PM" datetime="2024-03-14T16:43:16+00:00">March 14, 2024 4:43PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <div>Oh, and in the US car insurance can't refuse to pay if you've accidentally left the keys in the car.  They can't even refuse to pay even if you've intentionally left them in the car unless you've conspired with the thief.</div><div><br /></div><div>Lots of people seem to believe that's a thing here, and it is not.<br /></div> </div> <li class="Item Alt ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441356"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 9 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="zoetmb" href="/profile/43790/zoetmb" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/662/n62Q74GBSM9ZL.jpg" alt="zoetmb" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/43790/zoetmb" class="Username">zoetmb</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>2,656</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441356/#Comment_3441356" class="Permalink" name="Item_9" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 7:12PM" datetime="2024-03-14T19:12:06+00:00">March 14, 2024 7:12PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> <blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/255841/VictorMortimer">VictorMortimer</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText"><div>Oh, and in the US car insurance can't refuse to pay if you've accidentally left the keys in the car.  They can't even refuse to pay even if you've intentionally left them in the car unless you've conspired with the thief.</div><div><br /></div><div>Lots of people seem to believe that's a thing here, and it is not.<br /></div></div> </blockquote> Are you sure about that?  When my car was stolen in 2003, the insurance company was insistent on getting the two sets of originals that came with the car and they didn’t send the check until they got them. <div><br /></div><div>I always thought that was to insure that I purposely didn’t have the car stolen.   Same when my daughter’s car was stolen in the 90’s.  </div> </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="222606" title="watto_cobra - Like on March 20, 2024."><a title="watto_cobra" href="/profile/222606/watto_cobra" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=f2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ff2fefcb8d61b2604ef797958c0758ff4.png" alt="watto_cobra" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441357"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 10 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="dutchlord" href="/profile/227070/dutchlord" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=1305788e770685ae13119a267df412ba&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2F1305788e770685ae13119a267df412ba.png" alt="dutchlord" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/227070/dutchlord" class="Username">dutchlord</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>274</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441357/#Comment_3441357" class="Permalink" name="Item_10" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 14, 2024 7:15PM" datetime="2024-03-14T19:15:37+00:00">March 14, 2024 7:15PM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> What’s the use of Airtags when a thief is alerted there is an unidentified object due to privacy reasons??? </div> <span class="UserReactionWrap" data-userid="207038" title="jbdragon - Like on March 19, 2024."><a title="jbdragon" href="/profile/207038/jbdragon" class="PhotoWrap PhotoWrapSmall"><img src="https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=fe2fad703171dc966bde28b210325b09&amp;size=50&default=https%3A%2F%2Fvanillicon.com%2Ffe2fad703171dc966bde28b210325b09.png" alt="jbdragon" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoSmall" /></a><span class="ReactSprite Reaction-1 ReactHeart2"></span></span> <li class="Item Alt ItemComment Role_member" id="Comment_3441415"> <div class="Comment"> <div class="Options"> <span class="PostNum">Reply 11 of 11</span> </div> <div class="Item-Header CommentHeader"> <div class="AuthorWrap"> <span class="Author"> <a title="kiowavt" href="/profile/82656/kiowavt" class="PhotoWrap"><img src="https://forums.appleinsider.com/uploads/userpics/987/nKYMVXPFFNKB7.jpg" alt="kiowavt" class="ProfilePhoto ProfilePhotoMedium" /></a><a href="/profile/82656/kiowavt" class="Username">kiowavt</a> </span> <span class="AuthorInfo"> <span class="MItem PostCount">Posts: <b>95</b></span><span class="MItem RoleTitle member">member</span> </span> </div> <div class="Meta CommentMeta CommentInfo"> <span class="MItem DateCreated"> <a href="/discussion/comment/3441415/#Comment_3441415" class="Permalink" name="Item_11" rel="nofollow"><time title="March 15, 2024 5:14AM" datetime="2024-03-15T05:14:36+00:00">March 15, 2024 5:14AM</time></a> </span> </div> </div> <div class="Item-BodyWrap"> <div class="Item-Body"> <div class="Message"> If not caught, would love to have seen their faces when they came out to get their car and found their stolen car had been stolen. 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