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href="https://www.asahi.com/and/arts-culture/" class="l-article-category">ARTS & CULTURE</a> <time class="l-article-published" datetime="2025-02-05">2025.02.05</time> <div class="l-article-meta-border"></div> <div class="l-article-overview"> <a href="javascript:void(0)" id="js-article-hero-like-btn" class="l-article-favorite js-like-btn"> <img src="https://www.asahi.com/and/wp-content/themes/and/assets/img/ico_heart.svg" alt="" class="js-img2svg"> <span class="js-like-btn-count"></span> </a> <a href="javascript:void(0)" id="js-article-hero-comment-btn" class="l-article-comment"> <img src="https://www.asahi.com/and/wp-content/themes/and/assets/img/ico_comment.svg" alt="" class="js-img2svg"> <span class="js-comment-count">3</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div class="l-article-bookmark js-article-bookmark"><img src="https://www.asahi.com/and/wp-content/themes/and/assets/img/ico_bookmark.svg" class="js-img2svg" alt=""></div> </div> <figure class="l-article-thumb"> <img src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/0205_RIMI_Top.jpg" alt=""> <figcaption>歌手の夏川りみさん＝東京都渋谷区のビクターエンタテインメント、山本倫子撮影</figcaption> </figure>  </div> </div> <div class="l-article-inner" id="js-article-inner"> <div class="l-article-wrap" id="js-article-wrap"> <div class="l-article-main">  <div class="l-article-body">  <div class="wp-block-group mod-box is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow"><div class="wp-block-group__inner-container"> <p class="mod-box-text">「涙（なだ）そうそう」を歌う夏川りみさんは、2024年にデビュー25周年を迎えました。今年１月29日に新シングル「詩、歌、唄」のCDを出した夏川さんに、音楽との向き合い方や故郷への思いなどを聞きました。インタビュー後編は健康の秘訣（ひけつ）や年齢を重ねて思うことについて語ります。</p> </div></div> <p>夏川りみさんといえば、のびやかで澄んだ、優しい歌声を連想する人が多いのではないでしょうか。その声を出すために、のどをどうケアしているかというと……。</p> <p>「飲んで食べて寝る。それが一番です。睡眠はやっぱり大事ですね。ほかは特に何もしていないので、のどが強いんだと思います。じょうぶに産んでくれた両親に感謝していますし、子どもの頃は毎日、何時間もずっと歌っていたので、そこで鍛えられた、ということもあるかもしれないですね」</p> <p>夏川さんののどの強さは折り紙付き。2024年２月の台湾公演では、台北で約２時間のコンサートを終えた後、翌日の台中でのコンサートに向けて2時間以上かけて移動する間ずっと、大型バスの中でカラオケを歌っていたそうです。</p> <p>「結局、お酒を飲んで、歌っているんですよね。冬で乾燥しているときも、加湿器は必要ありません。それだけ、のどが強いんです」</p> <p>食事ができないほど、のどが痛いようなときも、歌は別だと言います。</p> <p>「何も食べられなくて水を飲むにものどが痛くてつらかったことが今までに２回ぐらいあって、もう終わったな、と思ったんですけど、リハーサルは普通にできて、歌っているときに痛みはなかったんです。のどで炎症が起きているところとは違う場所に体重をかけるイメージで歌ったら、声が出たんです」</p> <p>その話を、スターダスト☆レビューのボーカル、根本要さんと、シング・ライク・トーキングのボーカル、佐藤竹善さんに伝えたところ、「そういうのあるよね」と意見が一致したとか。根本さんも佐藤さんも、長時間のライブで歌い続けても声が衰えない「強者」として知られています。</p> <p>「他の人は『何言ってるの』みたいな感じだったんですけど、『体重をかけて、こうやったら出るんじゃないかな、というときがあったんだよね』と言ったら、2人とも『あるよね』と。よかった、私は変なことを言ってなかった、と思いました」</p> <p>それは歌手として活動を続ける中で、誰に教わるでもなく、自然に会得した「技術」。夏川さんにとっては、歌い続けることが何よりの薬なのかもしれません。</p> <p>「たとえば、体調が悪くて、『今日は本調子になるまでちょっと時間がかかりそうだな』みたいなときも、リハーサルで歌うと、『治った！』と。『歌ったら元気になった』みたいな感じです。だから私はずっと歌っていないといけないんだと思います」</p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" width="769" height="513" src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/0205_RIMI_1.jpg" alt="「私はずっと歌っていないといけない」　夏川りみさんインタビュー〈後編〉　坂本真子の『音楽魂』" class="wp-image-425387881"></figure> </div> <h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>「音楽をいつも聴いています」</strong></h2> <p>夏川さんは2009年にパーカッション奏者の玉木正昭さんと結婚し、翌10年に長男を出産しました。3歳から音楽に関心を持つようになったという長男は、以前はドラムを、数年前からはギターに取り組んでいます。</p> <p>「家では息子がずっとギターを弾いています。５年ぐらい前に一緒に練習を始めたんですけど、息子は上達が早くて、私は全然ダメです。息子はKISSが好きで、今はKing Gnuにハマっています。譜面は読めないので、音楽を聴いて自分で音を探して弾いています。息子の成長を見られることが今の幸せだなぁ、と感じていますね」</p> <p>自宅では長男と一緒に音楽を聴くという夏川さん。コンサートやレコーディングから帰宅して、音楽を離れたいと思うことはないのでしょうか。</p> <p>「それがあんまりないんですよね。ツアーから帰ってきて家で音楽が流れていると、夫は『今まで音楽をやってきたから消して』みたいなこともたまにありますけど、私は全然平気。ずっと聴いていられます」</p> <p>「石垣島に帰ったらタクシーに乗っても島の音楽が流れているし、実家がスナックなので、帰るとスナックの手伝いをすることが多いんですけど、みんなカラオケが大好きで、お客さんがずっと歌っているんですよ。飽きないし、大好きなお酒も飲めるし、歌えるし。それが当たり前で育ちましたし、私もやっぱり音楽が好きなんだな、と思いますね」</p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img decoding="async" width="769" height="513" src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/0205_RIMI_2.jpg" alt="「私はずっと歌っていないといけない」　夏川りみさんインタビュー〈後編〉　坂本真子の『音楽魂』" class="wp-image-425387883"></figure> </div> <h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>「好きなことをする時間を大切に」</strong></h2> <p>夏川さんは今51歳。体力は若い頃とあまり変わらないと言います。</p> <p>「お酒がそんなに飲めなくなったなぁ、というのはありますけど、元気過ぎて困るぐらいです。ストレスもないですし、周りのスタッフさんも私に好きなようにさせてくれるので、それが健康でいられる一番の理由かな、と思います」</p> <p>ほかに、健康のために気をつけていることはあるのでしょうか。</p> <p>「野菜が不足しがちなので、意識して食べるようにしています。あと、沖縄ではみんな豚を食べるので、豚肉も。食べることが大好きですし、何でも食べます」</p> <p>インタビュー中も笑顔の夏川さんに、毎日を楽しく過ごすコツも聞いてみました。</p> <p>「やっぱり好きなことをやっているときが、一番輝いて見えると思います。私はずっと好きな歌をさせてもらって今があるし、私には歌しかないので、好きなことをする時間を大切にしています」</p> <p>コロナ禍を経て、思うこともあります。</p> <p>「私はコロナ禍でも歌う機会があった方だとは思いますけど、一番大切なのは、みんなが健康で元気でいること。みんなの元気な顔を見て、生の歌声を直接届けられることが何よりも大切だと改めて思いました」</p> <p>「後悔しないように、こうしたいな、と思ったらすぐ実行するようにもなりましたね。いつ誰がどうなるかは誰にもわからないので、今、この人と会いたいなと思ったらすぐに連絡します。後回しにしないで、今だと思ったら動く。あのときそうしておけばよかったと、後から思いたくないので」</p> <p>仕事の現場には常に新人のつもりで臨むという夏川さんですが、年齢を重ねることはどのようにとらえているのでしょうか。</p> <p>「うちの母は、おっとりとした感じの人ではあるんですが、子どもの私が見ても、かわいらしいんですよ。あんな風に年を重ねられたらいいなぁ、と思いますし、私はおばぁになってもずっと歌っていたいですね。何歳まで歌えるかはわからないですけど、おばぁになったら、ちょっとまた違う歌があるのかな、と思って、楽しみにしています」</p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img decoding="async" width="769" height="513" src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/0205_RIMI_3.jpg" alt="「私はずっと歌っていないといけない」　夏川りみさんインタビュー〈後編〉　坂本真子の『音楽魂』" class="wp-image-425387888"></figure> </div> <p>夏川りみさんに最初にインタビューしたのは、2003年の春でした。「涙そうそう」でブレークし、紅白歌合戦に初出場した直後で、とても忙しい時期だったと思いますが、彼女の周りにはゆったりした空気が流れていたことを覚えています。</p> <p>そのときの記事では、夏に台風で飛行機が欠航し、夏川さん一行が那覇空港でキャンセル待ちをしたときのエピソードを紹介しました。足止めされた２千人近くがいら立ち始めたころ、夏川さんがマイクを借りて「これからいやしまーす」と呼びかけ、「涙そうそう」など数曲を歌うと、周りに集まった大勢の人たちは静かに聴き入り、「アンコール！」と口々に声を上げたそうです。</p> <p>やわらかくて伸びやかな歌声と、「あははは……」と笑うおおらかさは当時も今も変わらず、よりエネルギッシュに、パワーを増した夏川さん。素敵に年齢を重ねていると感じました。</p> <p>今回のインタビューでは、前編で紹介した「石垣島の古典民謡を歌って残したい」という話をとても熱っぽく語っていたことが印象的でした。実は私も沖縄民謡が好きで、三線（さんしん）を弾きます。夏川さんが歌う石垣島の古典民謡を、私自身もとても楽しみに、待ちたいと思います。<span class="end_mark"><img decoding="async" src="https://www.asahi.com/and/wp-content/themes/and/assets/img/ico_end_paragraph.svg" alt=""></span></p> <p><a href="https://www.asahi.com/and/article/20250129/425370793/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">＞＞インタビュー前編はこちら</a></p> <div class="wp-block-group mod-box is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow"><div class="wp-block-group__inner-container"> <p>最近、音楽を聴いていますか。<br>振り返れば、あなたにもきっと、歌やメロディーに励まされ、癒やされた思い出があるはず。40代、50代になっても、これからもずっと音楽と一緒に過ごせますように。<br>そんな願いを込めて、子どもの頃から合唱曲やロックを歌い、仕事でも関わってきたAging Gracefullyプロジェクト編集長の坂本が、音楽の話をお届けします。</p> </div></div> <p class="mod-site-color"><small><strong>取材&文＝朝日新聞社 Aging Gracefully プロジェクトリーダー／編集長坂本真子<br>写真＝山本倫子撮影</strong></small></p> <div class="wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex"> <div class="wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow"><div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="aligncenter size-full"><img decoding="async" width="300" height="300" src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/0129_CD_300.jpg" alt="「私はずっと歌っていないといけない」　夏川りみさんインタビュー〈後編〉　坂本真子の『音楽魂』" class="wp-image-425371104"><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">「詩、歌、唄」のCDジャケット＝ビクターエンタテインメント提供</figcaption></figure> </div></div> <div class="wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow"> <h4 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>「詩、歌、唄」</strong></h4> <p>2025年１月29日発売、1500円（税込み）。<br>◇収録曲<br>　M1. 詩、歌、唄<br>　M2. ハレルヤ、ありがとう<br>　M3. 詩、歌、唄（ピアノバージョン）<br>　M4. 詩、歌、唄（オリジナル・カラオケ）<br>　M5. ハレルヤ、ありがとう（オリジナル・カラオケ）<br>　M6. 詩、歌、唄（ピアノバージョン・カラオケ）</p> <p>◇CD購入はこちら<br><a href="https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/Linkall/VICL-37756.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/Linkall/VICL-37756.html</a><br>◇音楽ストリーミングサービスはこちら<br><a href="https://jvcmusic.lnk.to/uta_uta_uta" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://jvcmusic.lnk.to/uta_uta_uta</a></p> </div> </div> <p>◆「夏川りみ 25th Anniversary Concert Tour “たびぐくる” 2024」<br>　　２月15日（土）東京・ルネこだいら　16:00開演<br>　　　　　全席指定　一般7500円（税込み）、小中学生1000円（税込み）など<br>　　　　　問い合わせ：<a href="https://ro-on.tokyo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ro-Onチケット</a>　電話:047-365-9960（平日10時～18時／土曜日10時～14時）<br>　　３月２日（日）沖縄・石垣市民会館大ホール　17:30開演<br>　　　　　全席指定　Ｓ席8000円（税込み）、A席7000円（税込み）<br>　　　　　問い合わせ：<a href="https://www.miyahira.co.jp/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">南の美ら花ホテルミヤヒラ</a>　電話0980-82-6111</p> <p>◆夏川りみさん　公式サイト　<a href="https://www.rimirimi.jp/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.rimirimi.jp/</a></p> <p>◆夏川りみさん　公式YouTubeチャンネル　<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NatsukawaRimi_official" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@NatsukawaRimi_official</a></p> <p>◆夏川りみさん　公式SNS　Ｘ　<a href="https://x.com/rimi_official" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://x.com/rimi_official</a><br>　　　　　　　　　　　　　Instagram　<a href="https://www.instagram.com/rimi_natsukawa_official/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/rimi_natsukawa_official/</a><br>　　　　　　　　　　　　　TikTok　<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@rimi_natsukawa" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.tiktok.com/@rimi_natsukawa</a><br>　　　　　　　　　　　　　Facebook　<a href="https://www.facebook.com/natsukawarimi.official" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.facebook.com/natsukawarimi.official</a></p> <p>◆夏川りみさん　楽曲配信サイト一覧　<a href="https://jvcmusic.lnk.to/RimiNatsukawa" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://jvcmusic.lnk.to/RimiNatsukawa</a></p> <div class="wp-block-image"> <figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"><a href="https://que.digital.asahi.com/question/11016122" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img decoding="async" width="300" height="50" src="https://www.asahicom.jp/and/data/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/AG_Mail_300.png" alt="「私はずっと歌っていないといけない」　夏川りみさんインタビュー〈後編〉　坂本真子の『音楽魂』" class="wp-image-424970273" 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