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Satya Nadella, Microsoft's Chairman and Chief Executive - The Times Tech Podcast | Acast
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Satya Nadella is only the third boss in the tech giant's 50 year history, but he has pivoted Microsoft towards accelerating technology, and forging partnerships with leading companies including OpenAI. On a whistle-stop AI tour of the world and in his only UK interview this year - this exclusive conversation with Satya Nadella covers the dangers, pitfalls and growth of AI. What better time to sit down with the Microsoft supremo than almost two years after the public launch of ChatGPT? 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partnerships with leading companies including OpenAI. On a whistle-stop AI tour of the world and in his only UK interview this year - this exclusive conversation with Satya Nadella covers the dangers, pitfalls and growth of AI. What better time to sit down with the Microsoft supremo than almost two years after the public launch of ChatGPT? He tells Katie that his major worry is that nations miss the opportunity to take advantage of AI and technological innovation for economic growth "ultimately the benefits of it being much more broad spread are, I think... the real dream."</p></div></div><button type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-text"><span role="img" aria-label="caret-down" class="anticon anticon-caret-down"><svg viewBox="0 0 1024 1024" focusable="false" data-icon="caret-down" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M840.4 300H183.6c-19.7 0-30.7 20.8-18.5 35l328.4 380.8c9.4 10.9 27.5 10.9 37 0L858.9 335c12.2-14.2 1.2-35-18.5-35z"></path></svg></span>Show more</button><div class="Episode__ButtonWrapper-iVKpxA jmTpns"></div><div class="ant-row ant-row-left css-17eed5t" style="margin-top:-5px;margin-bottom:-5px"><a href="https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/dannyinthevalley" id="subscribe-item-RSS" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" 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0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Monday, February 10, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">Ahead of the Paris AI Action Summit, Katie and Danny are together in London for a special interview with the man who is synonymous with Artificial Intelligence - Sam Altman. He is the studio talking all things OpenAI, President Trump, Elon Musk, DeepSeek and the future of life and work.</div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-Getty_Images_CEO,_Craig_Peters_interview,_plus_ADPUs_-_really,_Danny?_" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/are-we-content-creators-or-automatic-data-production-units-a" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-Getty_Images_CEO,_Craig_Peters_interview,_plus_ADPUs_-_really,_Danny?_" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/are-we-content-creators-or-automatic-data-production-units-a" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">Getty Images CEO, Craig Peters interview, plus ADPUs - really, Danny? </h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->44:20</span>|<time dateTime="2025-02-07T10:56:56.014Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, February 7, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">The CEO of Getty Images, Craig Peters, joins the podcast to make his case for the ongoing value of human creation in an AI world. Plus Danny updates on how Tech is embracing President Trump's new administration. </div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-DeepSeek_and_you_shall_find?_With_Professor_Neil_Lawrence" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/deepseek-and-you-shall-find-with-professor-neil-lawrence" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-DeepSeek_and_you_shall_find?_With_Professor_Neil_Lawrence" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/deepseek-and-you-shall-find-with-professor-neil-lawrence" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">DeepSeek and you shall find? With Professor Neil Lawrence</h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->33:35</span>|<time dateTime="2025-01-31T01:00:00.000Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, January 31, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">The release of DeepSeek's R1 language model by a little known Chinese AI company sent Silicon Valley into turmoil this week - albeit temporarily. Who, how, why and what is DeepSeek? Professor Neil Lawrence joins the pod to help Katie and Danny answer those questions and a few more besides.Clip: AI House Davos Jan 2024</div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-Trump's_"broligarchy",_writers'_rights_and_TikTok_returns?" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/trumps-broligarchy-tiktok-returns-and-publishings-spotify-mo" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-Trump's_"broligarchy",_writers'_rights_and_TikTok_returns?" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/trumps-broligarchy-tiktok-returns-and-publishings-spotify-mo" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">Trump's "broligarchy", writers' rights and TikTok returns?</h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->42:45</span>|<time dateTime="2025-01-24T13:43:02.110Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, January 24, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">A picture is worth a thousand words - it is said - and at President Trump's inauguration some of the biggest names in tech were very much in the picture. TikTok banned; then unbanned. And Trip Adler, founder of Scribd, joins the show to talk about a new venture and a potential Spotify moment for AI and humans (or at least the authors among us!).Clips: @tiktok via Tiktok@Henry的小木屋 via Xiaohongshu</div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-A_Very_British_AI_Revolution!" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/ai-very-british-revolution" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-A_Very_British_AI_Revolution!" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/ai-very-british-revolution" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">A Very British AI Revolution!</h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->40:51</span>|<time dateTime="2025-01-17T06:00:00.000Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, January 17, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">The Technology Secretary, Peter Kyle, joins the pod to discuss the British Government's 'AI Opportunities Action Plan' (and Elon Musk). Plus, a new guide the UK's fastest growing tech companies is revealed by The Times and Sunday Times. Find it here - https://www.thetimes.com/sunday-times-100-tech/tech-feature/article/best-uk-tech-companies-2025-qzt9lcmnd</div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-Sam_Altman_reflects_on_AI,_Meta_scraps_fact-checkers,_and_data_centres_in_outer_space?" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/meta-scraps-fact-checkers-sam-altman-reflects-and-data-centr" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-Sam_Altman_reflects_on_AI,_Meta_scraps_fact-checkers,_and_data_centres_in_outer_space?" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/meta-scraps-fact-checkers-sam-altman-reflects-and-data-centr" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">Sam Altman reflects on AI, Meta scraps fact-checkers, and data centres in outer space?</h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->40:45</span>|<time dateTime="2025-01-10T01:00:00.000Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, January 10, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">Is AGI right around the corner? Sam Altman thinks so. Mark Zuckerberg decides to get rid of fact-checkers at Meta, at least for the USA. And what does it take to put data centres in space?</div></div><ul class="ant-list-item-action"><li><button episode="[object Object]" type="button" class="ant-btn css-17eed5t ant-btn-default ant-btn-lg PlayButton__PlayButtonStyled-PLKwP jpmNcI"><span role="img" aria-label="play-circle" class="anticon anticon-play-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="play-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm144.1 454.9L437.7 677.8a8.02 8.02 0 01-12.7-6.5V353.7a8 8 0 0112.7-6.5L656.1 506a7.9 7.9 0 010 12.9z"></path></svg></span>Play</button></li></ul></li><li class="ant-list-item EpisodeListItem__ListItemStyled-iBBHlu ioAIAL"><a id="episode-card-Big_predictions_for_Big_Tech_in_2025!" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/big-tech-predictions-for-2025" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><span class="ant-avatar ant-avatar-circle ant-avatar-image EpisodeListItem__EpisodeCover-dETuO bUVPdL css-17eed5t"><img src="https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61ba0b311a8cbef1d93cf121/1728038865168-4d111bb9-300e-4efb-b485-601b498a043e.jpeg?height=250"/></span></a><div class="EpisodeListItem__EpisodeInfo-dMuDjN ibWqjy"><a id="episode-card-Big_predictions_for_Big_Tech_in_2025!" href="/dannyinthevalley/episodes/big-tech-predictions-for-2025" class="Link__LinkElement-gcUHji jzoSpE"><h2 class="Typography__H2-jQFsNJ EpisodeListItem__TitleStyled-bnvvwp TuejL iiDLiW">Big predictions for Big Tech in 2025!</h2></a><div><span class="EpisodeListItem__Duration-ZldaQ hVOIhM"><span role="img" aria-label="clock-circle" class="anticon anticon-clock-circle"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="clock-circle" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M512 64C264.6 64 64 264.6 64 512s200.6 448 448 448 448-200.6 448-448S759.4 64 512 64zm0 820c-205.4 0-372-166.6-372-372s166.6-372 372-372 372 166.6 372 372-166.6 372-372 372z"></path><path d="M686.7 638.6L544.1 535.5V288c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8H488c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v275.4c0 2.6 1.2 5 3.3 6.5l165.4 120.6c3.6 2.6 8.6 1.8 11.2-1.7l28.6-39c2.6-3.7 1.8-8.7-1.8-11.2z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->33:01</span>|<time dateTime="2025-01-03T01:00:45.024Z" class="EpisodeListItem__DatePublish-ibxPoH fuCtWx"><span role="img" aria-label="calendar" class="anticon anticon-calendar"><svg viewBox="64 64 896 896" focusable="false" data-icon="calendar" width="1em" height="1em" fill="currentColor" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M880 184H712v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H384v-64c0-4.4-3.6-8-8-8h-56c-4.4 0-8 3.6-8 8v64H144c-17.7 0-32 14.3-32 32v664c0 17.7 14.3 32 32 32h736c17.7 0 32-14.3 32-32V216c0-17.7-14.3-32-32-32zm-40 656H184V460h656v380zM184 392V256h128v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h256v48c0 4.4 3.6 8 8 8h56c4.4 0 8-3.6 8-8v-48h128v136H184z"></path></svg></span> <!-- -->Friday, January 3, 2025</time><span class="EpisodeListItem__Seasons-cKCWbE HauGd"></span></div><div class="EpisodeListItem__FeatCardSummary-ixygAI jSKFLZ">Happy New Year! If 2025 is half as fascinating as 2024, we're in for wild ride. So, to predict the future, Katie and Danny are joined by two venture capitalists who spend their days checking out where tech goes next. 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Guys and St. Thomas' Hospital in London have started a pioneering trial using drones to deliver blood samples between the two sites. Sound simple, but this is one of the most regulated airspaces on the planet so how did they do it? 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