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Depending on the topic discussed in the talmud, one might look at at the ben yehoyada before the maharsha. Pretty much any of the mystical passages are in depth explained by the ben ish chai. Also passages concerning judgment and the world to come would be more practical in the ben yehoyada.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:1337freek&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:1337freek (page does not exist)">Power2People</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:1337freek" title="User talk:1337freek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-1337freek-2010-08-01T05:20:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1337freek-2010-08-01T05:20:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1337freek-2010-08-01T05:20:00.000Z-Untitled"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2006-09-18T12:43:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>Yes, but it is a matter of opinion. Some may prefer the Maharal. <a href="/wiki/User:Jfdwolff" title="User:Jfdwolff">JFW</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfdwolff" title="User talk:Jfdwolff"><small>T@lk</small></a> 02:34, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)</dd></dl> <p>Can we establish his true date of birth? The article, and half the links, say 1832. The article on Iraqi Jews, and the other half of the links, say 1834. Which is right? --<a href="/wiki/User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda" title="User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda">Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2006-09-18T12:43:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2006-09-18T12:43:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2006-09-18T12:43:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z-Untitled"></span>Another question. The article, and most of the links, say that he became "the Rabbi of Baghdad" at the age of 25 on the death of his father. However, the introduction to the English translation of "Ben Ish Hai" says that he declined the post of Hakham Bashi and refused all payment for his services, accepting only the post of <i>darshan</i> (preacher). Again, which is right? --<a href="/wiki/User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda" title="User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda">Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z-Untitled" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z-Untitled"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z-Untitled"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z"></span>I think the confusion has to do with the Orthodox focus on the Mishnah that says one should "hate Rabbinical positions." While there are Rabbinical posts, the people who most often end up actually occupying the greatest ones are not appointed as much as fall into the position. What probably happened is that he was offered the position, refused it and all the other Rabbis followed his opinions anyways. I have seen many similar things happen in modern days, it is the way much of Orthodoxy works. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.156.41.233" title="Special:Contributions/71.156.41.233">71.156.41.233</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.156.41.233&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.156.41.233 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2007-08-22T11:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2008-01-07T09:41:00.000Z-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z"></span>In other words, it is as I thought: the concept of "the Rabbi of Baghdad" is nonsense, and he was simply recognised as the leading poseq. I have amended the article accordingly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda" title="User:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda">Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda" title="User talk:Sirmylesnagopaleentheda">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2008-01-07T09:41:00.000Z-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2008-01-07T09:41:00.000Z-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sirmylesnagopaleentheda-2008-01-07T09:41:00.000Z-71.156.41.233-2008-01-07T06:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Standard_name_in_academic_sources" data-mw-thread-id="h-Standard_name_in_academic_sources-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Standard_name_in_academic_sources-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z"></span>Standard name in academic sources<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Standard_name_in_academic_sources-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Yosef_Hayyim&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Standard name in academic sources"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z-Standard_name_in_academic_sources"></span>Although it is common colloquially to refer to certain authorities by their books, for bio articles we should follow <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions">Wikipedia:naming conventions</a>, and use the author's name. Hence page moved to bio name. <a href="/wiki/User:In_ictu_oculi" title="User:In ictu oculi">In ictu oculi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:In_ictu_oculi" title="User talk:In ictu oculi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yosef_Hayyim#c-In_ictu_oculi-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z-Standard_name_in_academic_sources" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-In_ictu_oculi-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z-Standard_name_in_academic_sources"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-In_ictu_oculi-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z-Standard_name_in_academic_sources"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nostro_Fidelis-2015-12-26T13:19:00.000Z-In_ictu_oculi-2011-11-23T02:35:00.000Z"></span>The name is a common Jewish one, and there are probably thousands of people past and present with this name. 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