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Probably, he will answer that the humanities no longer wanted to live. Somewhere between 1995 and 2005, the will to survive vanished. The ancient, venerable scholarly disciplines no longer wanted to add something meaningful to the shared heritage of mankind.</p> <p>The turning point, our historian will find out, had been the invention of the internet. Until then, scholars and scientists had communicated their results to the larger audience in a way that can be described as <b>transmitter and receiver</b>: researchers sent out information – books, journals, TV – and the people listened. But at the turn of the millennium, communication became more interactive. People could talk back and could shape the nature of the discourse. Our historian will gladly quote from<i> Time Magazine</i>, which had chosen “you” as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_%28Time_Person_of_the_Year%29">the person of the year 2006</a>. The transmitter-receiver metaphor no longer applied; the best metaphor to describe the way in which scientists and scholars explained themselves to the people, became the <b>dialog</b>.</p> <p>A fine example, our historian will conclude, is Wikipedia, which was a kind of meeting place of good and bad information. Our historian will concede that the designers of the encyclopedia had realized the importance of debate from the very beginning: if someone had a question about someone else’s contribution, they could discuss these issues. It was good that in these debates, people immediately started to refer to their sources, and our historian will recognize that at the beginning of the twenty-first century, everybody recognized the importance of at least looking scientific or scholarly. Compared to the beginning of the twentieth century, that was a leap forward. The greatest achievement of western civilization in the twentieth century was that one-third of the population had had access to higher education.</p> <p>Unfortunately, our historian will notice, this was not a guarantee of quality. He will discover that the online debates were easily hijacked by activists, because in the debate between good and bad information, between good and poor scholarship, <b>bad information drove out good</b>. Our historian will find it incredible, but he will establish that reliable information was, at the beginning of the twenty-first century, deliberately kept away from the larger public by pay walls. In the fight against activists, bona fide scholars and scientists fought with their arms tied, and by 2005, the damage was done.</p> <p>This being the nature of the game, one would have expected that philologists, historians, archaeologists, theologians, philosophers, and other scholars would have fought back, but our future historian will discover that this rarely happened. If something was done at all, it was just presenting the facts, which were often correct indeed, but they were offered without any further explanation.</p> <p>Still, there were professional researchers who investigated how to explain science and scholarship to the people successfully. They recommended scientists and scholars to explain methods and theories, but few scholars bothered to take care. Where was the book, our historian will be wondering, that explained the Lachmann method or the hermeneutic cycle to the larger audience?</p> <p>Slowly, he will start to understand why so many people could, at the beginning of the twenty-first century, claim to be scholars, and were never contradicted: the scholars never explained how they achieved their results, giving the impression that scholarship was not a real, professional discipline, but a kind of amateurish hobby to which anyone might contribute. Precisely when information was transferred less by transmitter-receiver and more as a dialog, and when a highly educated audience demanded more information than just facts, the scholars retreated from the debate, not explaining what mattered most.</p> <p>At the beginning of the twenty-first century, our historian will think, three things ought to have been the top priorities if the humanities were to survive:</p> <ol> <li>online encyclopedias, written by professional scholars – and of course for free, because the people had already paid taxes and the information was already theirs;</li> <li>a sound explanation of methods and theories;</li> <li>an active policy to refute errors and mistakes.</li> </ol> <p>Our future historian will notice that scholars refused to live up to the expectations. Of course, there were exceptions. There were <i>some</i> websites on which <i>something</i> was explained, but they were rare, they were created after the damage had been done, and they covered only the first of the three requirements. Too little, too late, too incomplete. There will be a wry smile at the historian’s face when he writes about the self-pity of the early twenty-first century scholars: they were never tired of complaining that nobody seemed to understand <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/why-the-humanities-matter/">why the humanities mattered</a>, but they rarely explained.</p> <p>The historian will conclude that the humanities had committed suicide. Still, there had been people, inside and outside the universities, who had done their best. People who had refused to join the academic rat race, who had not been interested in the length of their publication list, who were really interested in the dialog with the larger audience.</p> <p align="center">***</p> <p>One of these is <a href="http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/rpearse.html">Roger Pearse</a>, the webmaster of <a href="http://www.tertullian.org/">Tertullian.org</a> and a tireless fighter against quack history. In December, he has started <a href="http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=main"><b>a website on the Roman god Mithras</b></a>. It offers a basic account of the Mithraic mysteries, it offers the sources, and most of all: it offers the arguments to refute theories that present Mithraism as an essentially Persian cult (<a href="http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=origins" target="_blank">it isn’t</a>) and that it heavily influenced Christianity (<a href="http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/mithras/display.php?page=mithras_and_christianity" target="_blank">it didn’t</a>).</p> <p>If we want to avoid that a historian, writing in 2040, will conclude that our generation is the one that killed scholarship, we desperately need more websites like these. But I am not optimistic. As long as our academics are more interested in the length of their publication list than in their duty to the larger audience, the humanities are doomed.</p> <div id="atatags-26942-67c3641de1396"></div> <script> __ATA.cmd.push(function() { __ATA.initDynamicSlot({ id: 'atatags-26942-67c3641de1396', location: 120, formFactor: '001', label: { text: 'Advertisements', }, creative: { reportAd: { text: 'Report this ad', }, privacySettings: { text: 'Privacy', } } }); }); </script> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/why-pearses-mithras-pages-are-important/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/asia-minor/" rel="category tag">Asia Minor</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/internet/" rel="category tag">internet</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/roman-religion/" rel="category tag">Roman religion</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/humanities/" rel="tag">Humanities</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/mithras/" rel="tag">Mithras</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/roger-pearse/" rel="tag">Roger Pearse</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/why-pearses-mithras-pages-are-important/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Why Pearse’s Mithras Pages Are Important">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-6208 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-egypt category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-ancient-lebanon category-ancient-syria category-classics category-military-history tag-coele-syria tag-j-d-grainger tag-syrian-wars" id="post-6208"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/j-d-grainger-the-syrian-wars/" rel="bookmark">J.D. Grainger, The Syrian Wars</a></h2> <small>28 October 2012</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg"><img data-attachment-id="6209" data-permalink="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/j-d-grainger-the-syrian-wars/grainger/" data-orig-file="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg" data-orig-size="150,225" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-meta="{"aperture":"0","credit":"","camera":"","caption":"","created_timestamp":"0","copyright":"","focal_length":"0","iso":"0","shutter_speed":"0","title":""}" data-image-title="grainger" data-image-description="" data-image-caption="" data-medium-file="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg?w=150" data-large-file="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg?w=150" class="alignright size-full wp-image-6209" title="grainger" alt="" src="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg?w=450" srcset="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg 150w, https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/grainger.jpg?w=100&h=150 100w" sizes="(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /></a>If you read this review to see whether a book is sufficiently good to buy it, read no further: John Grainger’s <i>The Syrian Wars</i> is a good book. It is even an important book, and if I will appear to be very critical, this is because it is worth criticizing.</p> <p>The nine Syrian Wars, waged between the <a href="http://www.livius.org/se-sg/seleucids/seleucids.html" target="_blank">Seleucid</a> and <a href="http://www.livius.org/ps-pz/ptolemies/ptolemies.htm" target="_blank">Ptolemaic Empires</a> over the possession of Coele Syria, are a neglected subject. There were few battles to attract the historians’ attention, but more importantly: Rome was at the same time uniting the Mediterranean, a process that was to have more lasting consequences than the eastern wars. Grainger, however, succeeds in showing that the Syrian Wars deserve more attention. He stresses that the conflict was central to the growth of the governmental system of two Hellenistic states, which he calls ‘competitive development’.</p> <p>On which foundation does he build his thesis? On written sources and coins, of course, which he treats with great care. However, this also means that <i>The Syrian Wars</i> is essentially a N=1 study, which might be refuted easily. As Grainger indicates, any part of his reconstruction can be challenged by the discovery of new texts. If this happens several times, it will be fatal to his thesis.</p> <p>When empirical foundations are weak, students of most disciplines invoke comparisons. When they do not have sufficient evidence to build a firm structure, it is useful to tie it to more solid objects. This is why historians of Antiquity are inevitably forced to compare their reconstructions to reconstructions of comparable processes in other pre-industrial societies.</p> <p>Fortunately, the necessary parallels exist. Competitive development is hardly unique; historians and sociologists have often shown that state formation is usually a consequence of a prolonged military conflict. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tilly" target="_blank">Tilly</a>’s <i>Coercion, Capital, and European States </i>(1990) is a modern classic. If Grainger had referred to it, his book would have been more convincing, because its thesis would be based on more than one example. N=10 is better than N=1.</p> <p>The need for comparisons is even greater, because Grainger appears to be unaware of a lot of recent literature. The new sources that might challenge parts of his reconstruction, have in fact already been published. For instance, Grainger’s dates of the Second Diadoch War are based on Manni’s ‘low chronology’ (1949), not on Tom Boiy’s little gem <i>Between High and Low</i> (2007). The relevant new sources are ostraca and cuneiform texts.</p> <p>Occasionally, Grainger is unaware of new readings of well-known texts. It is strange to see how he antedates the Antigonid invasions of Babylonia to 311, and presents Ptolemy’s naval expedition to the Aegean in 309 as a trick to lure Antigonus away from the eastern theater of war. This leaves the reader with a sense of confusion, because one would expect the two operations to be more or less simultaneous. Fortunately, the problem is only apparent: the <a href="http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/bchp-diadochi/diadochi_01.html" target="_blank"><i>Chronicle of the Diadochs</i></a> (= <i>Babylonian Chronicle </i>10) dates the <a href="http://www.livius.org/di-dn/diadochi/war06.html" target="_blank">Babylonian War</a> to 310/309. Grainger knows the source, but ignores recent scholarship.</p> <p>This can also be said of his treatment of the reign of <a href="http://www.livius.org/am-ao/antiochus/antiochus_iv_epiphanes.html" target="_blank">Antiochus IV</a>. Fortunately, his treatment resembles Mittag’s beautiful <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/antiochus-iv-epiphanes-vindicated/" target="_blank"><i>Antiochos IV</i></a> (2006). Both authors show that the king pursued a policy that is far more rational than the authors of the ancient sources are willing to admit.</p> <p>Another omission is the set of twenty texts known as the <a href="http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/chron00.html" target="_blank">Babylonian Chronicles of the Hellenistic Period</a>. The evidence was known for some time already (seven of these texts were already included in Grayson’s <i>Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles</i>, 1975). Several statements of Grainger’s are directly contradicted by BCHP. For example, Grayson says that we do not know where crown prince Antiochus was when his father Seleucus Nicator was assassinated. He settles for Ecbatana, but Chronicles BCHP 5, 6, and 7 suggest that the crown prince often resided in Babylon. (Disclosure: I am involved in the publication, preparing the online editions that scholars use to discuss these chronicles.)</p> <p>Grainger’s discussion of the Third Syrian War ignores <a href="http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/bchp-ptolemy_iii/bchp_ptolemy_iii_01.html" target="_blank">BCHP 11</a>, a chronicle that not only proves that the Egyptians captured Babylon, but also offers interesting details about the fights. After an unsuccessful siege of <a href="http://www.livius.org/se-sg/seleucia/seleucia_euphrates.html" target="_blank">Seleucia-on-the-Euphrates</a>, Ptolemaic heavy infantry (‘ironclad Macedonians who are not scared of the gods’, according to the chronicler) attacked Babylon, which held out twelve days until it fell on January 20. The citadel remained in the hands of its Seleucid garrison, however, and early in February, the commander of Seleucia tried to lift the blockade. He was defeated and the Seleucid troops who had remained in Seleucia, were massacred. We do not know what happened next, but this is important information. Grainger, unaware of this first-rate source, concludes ‘that Ptolemy crossed the Euphrates but did not reach Babylon’.</p> <p>The real problem, however, is not that Grainger ignores useful comparisons and recent scholarship. The study of ancient societies is complex, no one can know everything, and scholars cannot even establish what they do not know. Ancient history is the discipline of the unknown unknowns. To fill the lacunas in the knowledge of their writers, publishers have boards of editors. If Grainger is unaware of the existence of BCHP – which is, like so many cuneiform resources, only available online – it is the editors’ task to help. This time, however, the board has been sleeping, which may also explain the unusually great number of typos and the unusually poor maps.</p> <p>All this should not distract us, however, from the simple fact that Grainger has written an important book that no student of Hellenistic institutions or military history can afford to ignore. With a more energetic board of editors, it might have been a good book, but still, Grainger has achieved his aim: to prove that the continuing conflict forced two Hellenistic states ‘to undertake measures to strengthen themselves internally, financially, militarily, politically, by alliances, and by recruiting manpower, so that they could face yet another war which both sides came to anticipate’.</p> <p>[Originally published in <a href="http://www.ancient-warfare.com/landing/index.htm?aff_id=4" target="_blank"><em>Ancient Warfare</em></a>]</p> <div id="atatags-370373-67c3641de2edb"> <script type="text/javascript"> __ATA.cmd.push(function() { __ATA.initVideoSlot('atatags-370373-67c3641de2edb', { sectionId: '370373', format: 'inread' }); }); </script> </div> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/j-d-grainger-the-syrian-wars/#comments">3 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-egypt/" rel="category tag">ancient egypt</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-lebanon/" rel="category tag">ancient Lebanon</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-syria/" rel="category tag">ancient syria</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/coele-syria/" rel="tag">Coele Syria</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/j-d-grainger/" rel="tag">J.D. 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Grainger, The Syrian Wars">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5861 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-byzantium category-classics category-lacuscurtius category-online-texts tag-byzantine-architecture tag-polytonic-greek tag-procopius" id="post-5861"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/procopius-buildings/" rel="bookmark">Procopius: Buildings</a></h2> <small>19 April 2012</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/Images/Roman/Greek_squiggles.png" alt="" width="150" height="100" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Byzantine squiggles:<br />a rather mild example.</p></div> <p style="text-align:justify;">Although the <em>Buildings</em>, in its English translation by Dewing (Loeb edition), has been on Lacus since 2003, the original Greek was not, nor was it to be found anywhere else online; and for years those who visited my orientation page have been reading there, “I have no intention of transcribing the original Greek text: the paucity of readers of ancient Greek out there make it a case of diminishing returns.”</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">It’s probably still true. The anecdotal evidence I have is that people who read Greek also have access to the TLG. But it recently became useful to me to run a software test on a product I’m developing, and since I’ve been unable to find the Greek text of the <em>Buildings</em> online, other than in a xerox of Migne (wonderful in its time but not so reliable and somewhat superseded by more recent text scholarship) the <em>Buildings</em> became my test document. Perseus has the Greek text of the <em>Wars</em> and of the <em>Secret History</em>, which are also reproduced in a GoogleBooks/Archive.Org xerox: ‘my’ <em>Buildings</em>, when complete, will put all of Procopius online.</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">All this by way of saying that <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Procopius/Buildings/home.html#B1" target="index"><strong>Book I</strong></a> of the Greek text of the <em>Buildings</em> has now joined its English translation onsite, in 3 webpages. As elsewhere onsite, the text and the translation are crosslinked, if for now only rudimentarily: I’ll be putting in the chapter-by-chapter crosslinks, by and by. The other Books are on their way.</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">The “software product” — an overblown name for it, but hey, ya do computer stuff, ya follow da rules and give it a fancy IP-sounding moniker — may be more important than the test document. I mentioned it <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/damn-people/">in an earlier post</a>: an automatic text expander that lets you type ancient (polytonic) Greek without worrying about the breathings and accents. For those few who input even a small amount of Greek from time to time, it’s a boon; currently catching about 92% of non-technical text, and not much less even of text with high technical content. The expander, which runs on Macintosh only, takes the form of a Typinator “set” which works nicely now, but the good folks at Typinator <a href="http://www.ergonis.com/products/typinator/" target="offsite">(see their website)</a> have asked me to hold off on releasing it until they in turn update Typinator to its next version: as a beta-tester for them I’d found some minor bugs, impacting the handling of Greek, that they’ve now fixed; but their new version is not available yet. The set will be available on their site and on mine, very likely within a coupla weeks.</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">At any rate, the test succeeded. I hadn’t used any of Procopius to create the expander dictionary, but my set caught about 90% of his somewhat technical text, and frankly, without it I would never have been able to input 45 pages of ancient Greek in three days; and typing in all the squiggles one by one is so depressing that I wouldn’t have tried: it’s currently the longest Greek text on my site. (Yes, you still have to proofread; but we all proofread anyway, rihgt?)</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/procopius-buildings/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/byzantium/" rel="category tag">Byzantium</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/lacuscurtius/" rel="category tag">LacusCurtius</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/online-texts/" rel="category tag">online texts</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/byzantine-architecture/" rel="tag">Byzantine architecture</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/polytonic-greek/" rel="tag">polytonic Greek</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/procopius/" rel="tag">Procopius</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/procopius-buildings/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Procopius: Buildings">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Bill Thayer </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5736 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-classics category-greek-philosophy category-lacuscurtius category-online-texts" id="post-5736"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/dio-continued/" rel="bookmark">Dio, continued</a></h2> <small>26 March 2012</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p style="text-align:justify;">Up on Lacus in the last few days, a few more of the Greek originals of the Discourses of Dio Chrysostom: <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/H/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/53*.html" target="Dio_Chrysostom"><strong>53</strong></a>, <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/H/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/56*.html" target="Dio_Chrysostom"><strong>56</strong></a>, <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/H/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/57*.html" target="Dio_Chrysostom"><strong>57</strong></a>, <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/H/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/60*.html" target="Dio_Chrysostom"><strong>60</strong></a>, <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/H/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/80*.html" target="Dio_Chrysostom"><strong>80</strong></a>. For a while, some of the wind was taken out of my sails when I discovered that Perseus has them all — but in fact, on closer inspection, they only have 1‑13 and 31‑35, which right now is nice complementarity, since of those I only have 5 and 9. At any rate, for the Greek originals, the situation is currently: 39 of them only on Lacus, 16 only on Perseus, and 2 on both: with 23 not online anywhere that I know of. For English translations, Dio is complete on Lacus, and as far as I can tell, neither Perseus nor anyone else has any of them.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/dio-continued/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/greek-philosophy/" rel="category tag">Greek philosophy</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/lacuscurtius/" rel="category tag">LacusCurtius</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/online-texts/" rel="category tag">online texts</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/dio-continued/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Dio, continued">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Bill Thayer </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5544 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-classics category-lacuscurtius category-online-texts tag-historia-augusta" id="post-5544"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/5544/" rel="bookmark">Historia Augusta</a></h2> <small>9 January 2012</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/home.html" target="index"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/Images/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/icon.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="100" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bust of Caracalla(Musei Capitolini)</p></div> <p style="text-align:justify;">The complete Historia Augusta has been up on LacusCurtius for seven years now, and in all that time the reader going to its orientation page will have read that there was an introduction by the Loeb editor, and a little section on the manuscripts — but that I hadn’t put them up, and would do so in the fullness of time.</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">Of course I quickly forgot about the missing items; yesterday must have been the fullness of time, and I had occasion to discover them again. They’re now up: <strong><a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/Introduction*.html" target="princeps">Introduction</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Historia_Augusta/Manuscripts*.html" target="princeps">Manuscripts</a></strong>.</p> <p style="text-align:justify;">David Magie’s explanation of just how people consider the Historia Augusta a pack of lies is reasonably thorough and clear. But the more useful and interesting explanation is in fact <a href="http://www.livius.org/hi-hn/ha/hist_aug.html" target="offsite">on Livius</a>; though less complete and technically detailed, that’s still the one I recommend.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/5544/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/lacuscurtius/" rel="category tag">LacusCurtius</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/online-texts/" rel="category tag">online texts</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/historia-augusta/" rel="tag">Historia Augusta</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/5544/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Historia Augusta">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Bill Thayer </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5435 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-ancient-turkey category-classics category-liviusorg category-medieval-history category-military-history category-travel tag-trabzon tag-trapezus tag-trebizonde" id="post-5435"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/trapezus-trabzon/" rel="bookmark">Trapezus (Trabzon)</a></h2> <small>12 October 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/turkey/trapezus/trabzon_aya_sophia1_ab.JPG"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/turkey/trapezus/trabzon_aya_sophia1_ab_s.jpg" alt="Photo Ab Langereis" width="150" height="100" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Hagia Sophia</p></div> <p>I was in Trabzon when its football team, <a href="http://www.goal.com/en/match/65919/inter-milan-vs-trabzonspor/report" target="_blank">Trabzonspor, beat Inter Milan</a>. I have never seen a city that went so completely out of its mind: people honking their cars and even the ships in the port sounding their horns.</p> <p>It’s an ancient city, originally called <a href="http://www.livius.org/to-ts/trapezus/trapezus.html" target="_blank">Trapezus</a>. It became famous in the Middle Ages, when the Comnenian dynasty of Byzantine emperors settled in “Trebizonde” (as it was known back then) and made it the capital of a mini-empire, after <a href="http://www.livius.org/cn-cs/constantinople/constantinople03.html" target="_blank">Constantinople</a> itself had been captured by the knights of the Fourth Crusade. In all aspects, Trebizonde had to resemble the real capital of the Byzantine world, which meant that there was also a lovely Hagia Sophia: smaller but more refined than its <a href="http://www.livius.org/cn-cs/constantinople/constantinople_hagia_sophia.html" target="_blank">namesake</a> in Constantinople. You can still visit the place.</p> <p>There’s nothing left from the Greek and Roman age, but the city has an interesting history. You can read more about it on my new page: <a href="http://www.livius.org/to-ts/trapezus/trapezus.html" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a>.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/trapezus-trabzon/#comments">1 Comment</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-turkey/" rel="category tag">ancient turkey</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/liviusorg/" rel="category tag">Livius.Org</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/medieval-history/" rel="category tag">medieval history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/travel/" rel="category tag">travel</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/trabzon/" rel="tag">Trabzon</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/trapezus/" rel="tag">Trapezus</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/trebizonde/" rel="tag">Trebizonde</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/trapezus-trabzon/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Trapezus (Trabzon)">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5422 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-egypt category-ancient-germany category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-ancient-iran category-ancient-mesopotamia category-ancient-persia category-ancient-rome category-ancient-syria category-archaeology category-classics category-historical-theory category-liviusorg tag-de-klad-in-de-klassieken" id="post-5422"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/classics-in-decline/" rel="bookmark">Classics in Decline</a></h2> <small>29 September 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/div/omslag_kladboek.JPG"><img class="alignright" title="klad" src="https://mainzerbeobachter.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/klad.jpg?w=150&h=240" alt="" width="150" height="240" /></a><em>In 2011, I wrote a book called</em> De klad in de klassieken<em>, “Classics in Decline”. It is about the way classicists, archaeologists, and historians try to guarantee that their information is adequate. The seven first chapters deal with their craftmanship, the three final ones with the problems they are facing in the Dutch, bureaucratic universities. The book was published in January 2012. Below is an English synopsis; a Dutch summary is <a href="http://mainzerbeobachter.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/de-klad-in-de-klassieken-synopsis/" target="_blank">here</a>.<br /> </em></p> <p><strong>Introduction</strong></p> <p>Scholarship is in a state of crisis and the first branch that is no longer capable of keeping up with the others, is the study of Antiquity. This is not just the problem of classicists, Biblical scholars, archaeologists, Egyptologists, Assyriologists, historians, and so on. The causes of the decline of the classics are relevant to other branches of scholarship and science as well.</p> <p><strong>1 ‘A field of study, too easy for truly great minds’</strong></p> <p>What is the study of Antiquity? Subdisciplines. Poliziano and the origin of textual criticism; Nanni and source criticism; Erasmus; Pyrrhonism; antiquarianism and the widening scope of history; the Enlightenment.</p> <p><strong>2 Three Geniuses and a Politician </strong></p> <p>Winckelmann and Gibbon and the synthesis of earlier approaches; Philhellenism; Wolf defines the scope of the study of Antiquity; the organizer Von Humboldt; the rise of institutes; pros and cons of institutes. Four main problems:</p> <ol> <li>insufficient attention to the ancient Near East,</li> <li>archaeology insufficiently appreciated,</li> <li>acceptance of an unproven continuity from Antiquity up to the present day,</li> <li>historicism.</li> </ol> <p><strong>3 Words from the Past</strong></p> <p>Linguistic interpretation of ancient texts; cultural interpretations; intertextuality; subjectivity; Schleiermacher’s hermeneutics; Dilthey; formalism; oral literature. The fifth main problem: outdated information, because of (among other factors) outdated hermeneutic approaches.</p> <p><strong>4 Facts and Comparisons<br /> </strong></p> <p>Eyewitness accounts and primary sources; secondary sources; facts, indirect facts, aggregated facts; logical problems with empirical study; from fact to language; problems with historicism; acceptance of wide comparisons; justification of comparanda; need to collaborate with the social sciences.</p> <p><strong>5 The Handmaid of History</strong></p> <p>From antiquarianism to archaeology; Schliemann; archaeology as the handmaid of history; Kosinna; Childe; culture-historical archaeology and nationalism.</p> <p><strong>6 Archaeologies</strong></p> <p>Collaboration with the social sciences breaks historicism (a way to solve main problem #4); decisive changes (functionalism, Clark, radiocarbon); spatial archaeology (Iraq-Jarmo Project); the so-called New Archaeology; possibility to say meaningful things about continuity (a way to solve main problem #3); postprocessual archaeologies and hermeneutics; classical archaeology until 1970; Snodgrass; archaeology no longer a subdiscipline of classics (solution to main problem #2); Greece no longer considered the cradle of civilization; more attention to the ancient Near East (solution to main problem #1).</p> <p><strong>7 Facts and Explanations </strong></p> <p>The five explanatory models</p> <ul> <li>hermeneutics,</li> <li>positivism,</li> <li>comparativism,</li> <li>narrativism,</li> <li>physics of society.</li> </ul> <p>Just when four of the five main problems were potentially solved, new problems arose.</p> <p><strong>8 The Fifth Main Problem<br /> </strong></p> <p>Three examples of serious disinformation; types of error (pseudo-history, quack history, exaggeration, contamination, outdated information); the rise of outdated information and its explanations:</p> <ul> <li>the internet<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span>, combined with pay sites<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span>, offer quack historians an opportunity to refer to sources, whereas true scholars can only refer to pay sites and will lose any online discussion;</li> <li>students must obtain their MA’s in too short a time<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span>, and are no longer recognize capable of recognizing outdated information;</li> <li>the Convention of Valletta caused an archaeological data explosion.</li> </ul> <p>We’re living in an age in which outdated information can spread faster than reliable information, while academics are less capable to fight against disinformation.</p> <p><strong>9 Waterskiing behind a Wine Ship </strong></p> <p>What is quality? Doubts about truth claims,<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> bureaucratic solutions.<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> Other problems: insufficient cooperation between historians, classicists, archaeologists; unanswered questions; insufficient theoretical innovation. Poor explanation to non-academicians; rise of a class of aggressive sceptics.<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span></p> <p>How things went wrong. Failure of quality control;<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> underfunding;<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> disadvantages of bureaucracy;<span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> no control whatsoever of the information sent out to the larger audience.</p> <p>Must we accept the end of the classical studies? No, but reform is necessary and possible.</p> <p><strong>10 Leaving the Procrustean Bed </strong></p> <p>Scholarship should serve society, but the present Dutch universities are a Procrustean bed. What to do?</p> <ul> <li>Answer ignored questions about comparanda and continuity;</li> <li>Form follows content: only when we know what we really want, we can create a new system of study. Independent institutes are better than large universities. If creating an institute for <em>all</em> classical studies, is only possible by making it an elitist institute, that is acceptable.</li> <li>Make sure that the larger audience understands what scholarship is about.</li> <li>Create efficient types of control, not focused on the amount of articles published every year, but on the correctness of information that is circulating in society.</li> </ul> <p>Subjects indicated with <span style="color:#ff0000;">*</span> are also relevant to other fields of scholarship.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/classics-in-decline/#comments">2 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-egypt/" rel="category tag">ancient egypt</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-germany/" rel="category tag">ancient germany</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-iran/" rel="category tag">ancient Iran</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-mesopotamia/" rel="category tag">ancient mesopotamia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-persia/" rel="category tag">ancient persia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-syria/" rel="category tag">ancient syria</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/liviusorg/" rel="category tag">Livius.Org</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/de-klad-in-de-klassieken/" rel="tag">De klad in de klassieken</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/classics-in-decline/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Classics in Decline">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5399 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-iran category-ancient-persia category-classics category-greek-philosophy tag-apocalypticism tag-cartoons tag-ekpyrosis tag-judaism-and-christianity tag-martin-rowson tag-simplicissimus" id="post-5399"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/modern-cartoons-ancient-ideas/" rel="bookmark">Modern cartoons, ancient ideas</a></h2> <small>11 August 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/martinrowson" target="_blank">Martin Rowson</a> is a British cartoonist. You can find his work in <em>The Guardian</em>, like <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2011/aug/07/tottenham-riot-martin-rowson-cartoon" target="_blank">this one</a>, which connects the Tottenham Riots with the financial crises that continue to plague the western world:</p> <p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="https://mainzerbeobachter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/cartoon1.jpg?w=450&h=338" alt="" width="450" height="338" /></p> <p>I think it’s brilliant, but that’s not why I am writing this. The same comparison – politicians doing nothing while the world is burning – is made in the next cartoon, which appeared on 28 October 1912 in the German satirical journal <em>Simplicissimus</em>. It illustrates the outbreak of the First Balkan War: “Unfortunately,” the caption says, “the united European fire brigade was unable to stop te fire”.</p> <p>The fact that two cartoonists make the same comparison, illustrates the power of the metaphor. The idea that the world can be set ablaze, is a very old one. I believe that it stems from Stoic ideas about <em>ekpyrosis</em> and Christian and Jewish apocalypticism. Both are, in turn, inspired by Zoroastrian ideas about the end of the world.</p> <p style="text-align:center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="https://mainzerbeobachter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/simplicissimus.jpg?w=450&h=586" alt="" width="450" height="586" /></p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/modern-cartoons-ancient-ideas/#comments">2 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-iran/" rel="category tag">ancient Iran</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-persia/" rel="category tag">ancient persia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/greek-philosophy/" rel="category tag">Greek philosophy</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/apocalypticism/" rel="tag">apocalypticism</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/cartoons/" rel="tag">cartoons</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/ekpyrosis/" rel="tag">ekpyrosis</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/judaism-and-christianity/" rel="tag">Judaism and Christianity</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/martin-rowson/" rel="tag">Martin Rowson</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/simplicissimus/" rel="tag">Simplicissimus</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/modern-cartoons-ancient-ideas/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Modern cartoons, ancient ideas">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5363 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-mesopotamia category-ancient-syria category-classics category-historical-theory category-military-history category-online-texts tag-astronomical-diaries tag-babylonian-chronicles-of-the-hellenistic-period tag-cuneiform-studies" id="post-5363"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/why-cuneiform-studies-matter/" rel="bookmark">Why Cuneiform Studies Matter</a></h2> <small>28 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/mesopotamia/BCHP_ptolemy_iii_BM_34428obv.jpg"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/mesopotamia/BCHP_ptolemy_iii_BM_34428obv_s.JPG" alt="" width="150" height="83" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Ptolemy III Chronicle</p></div> <p>I have just written a review, to be published in <a href="http://www.ancient-warfare.com/landing/index.htm?aff_id=4" target="_blank"><em>Ancient Warfare</em></a>, of John D. Grainger’s book <em>The Syrian Wars</em>. It is an important book, because the author shows that the Syrian Wars were crucial for the formation of the two largest Hellenistic states. Grainger essentially proves that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tilly" target="_blank">Tilly</a>’s <em>Coercion, Capital, and European States</em> (1990) is also applicable to Antiquity.</p> <p>The trouble is that he might have written an even better book if he had been more aware of cuneiform studies. I know, those tablets are being published slowly, frustratingly so, and it is tempting to ignore them. Grainger is to be praised for at least reading the <a href="http://www.livius.org/di-dn/diaries/astronomical_diaries.html" target="_blank"><em>Astronomical Diaries</em></a>, but still, he appears to be unaware of, say, the <em>Babylonian Chronicles of the Hellenistic Period</em>.</p> <p>This is understandable. Like so many cuneiform texts, the chronicles have been published online only. In fact, they are still being discussed (compare <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/the-bagayasha-chronicle/" target="_blank">this recent post</a>). Nevertheless, the information is important. For example, Grainger is aware that during the <a href="http://www.livius.org/su-sz/syrian_wars/3_syrian_war.html" target="_blank">Third Syrian War</a>, the <a href="http://www.livius.org/ps-pz/ptolemies/ptolemies.htm" target="_blank">Ptolemaic</a> army crossed the <a href="http://www.livius.org/es-ez/euphrates/euphrates.html" target="_blank">Euphrates</a>, but concludes that it did not reach <a href="http://www.livius.org/ba-bd/babylon/babylonia.html" target="_blank">Babylonia</a>. The <a href="http://www.livius.org/se-sg/seleucia/seleucia_euphrates.html" target="_blank">Ptolemy III Chronicle (<em>BCHP</em> 11)</a> in fact describes how the Egyptian forces massacred the garrison of <a href="http://www.livius.org/se-sg/seleucia/seleucia_euphrates.html" target="_blank">Seleucia</a> and captured <a href="http://www.livius.org/ba-bd/babylon/babylon.html" target="_blank">Babylon</a>. The Third Syrian War was much bigger than Grainger realizes, and Egyptian strategy was far more ambitious than he assumes.</p> <p>Another mistake, less important, is Grainger’s date of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_War" target="_blank">Babylonian War</a>: the Antigonid attempt to drive out <a href="http://www.livius.org/se-sg/seleucids/seleucus_i_nicator.html" target="_blank">Seleucus</a>, dated by Grainger to 311. He also writes that, to help the embattled Seleucus, <a href="http://www.livius.org/ps-pz/ptolemies/ptolemy_i_soter.htm" target="_blank">Ptolemy</a> launched a naval expedition to the Aegean. Grainger correctly dates this to 309-308, but this makes his overall reconstruction unconvincing: Ptolemy can have lured <a href="http://www.livius.org/am-ao/antigonus/antigonus_i_monophthalmus.html" target="_blank">Antigonus</a>‘ armies away from Babylonia only if the two operations took place more or less simultaneously. Fortunately, the problem vanishes once we realize that the Antigonid offensive in fact took place in 310. Grainger has not used the latest literature on the <a href="http://www.livius.org/cg-cm/chronicles/bchp-diadochi/diadochi_01.html" target="_blank">Diadochi Chronicle</a>.</p> <p>I am not writing this to diminish Grainger’s scholarship. As I said, he proves how important the Syrian Wars were, and an occasional error does not fundamentally change that. I wrote the above section to stress that two often ignored specialties actually matter: the study of cuneiform sources and the study of chronology.</p> <p>There are two other points to be made. To start with, it would be nice if the students of cuneiform sources did a bit more to let the world know what they are doing. The Ptolemy III Chronicle, for example, might have been published in the <em>Journal of Hellenic Studies</em>. Grainger cannot be blamed for not knowing the Near-Eastern texts if there is not a signpost to give directions.</p> <p>In the second place, the field of ancient history has become too complex. No one can know everything, and therefore, authors must invoke the advice of their colleagues. (This is why <em>BCHP</em> is preliminarily published online: to enable others to look at it, and make sure that no information is ignored.) And because no one can know everything, publishers have editorial boards. Grainger’s book deserved better editors, who might have spotted that their author had ignored, for example, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/antiochus-iv-epiphanes-vindicated/" target="_blank">Mittag’s <em>Antiochos IV</em></a> and Boiy’s <em>Between High and Low</em>.</p> <p>Scholarship would really benefit were manuscripts to be put online first and books not to be published before a round of consultation. We have the means, we have the knowledge, and we have the technology to produce better books – so what are we waiting for?</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/why-cuneiform-studies-matter/#comments">2 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-mesopotamia/" rel="category tag">ancient mesopotamia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-syria/" rel="category tag">ancient syria</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/online-texts/" rel="category tag">online texts</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/astronomical-diaries/" rel="tag">Astronomical Diaries</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/babylonian-chronicles-of-the-hellenistic-period/" rel="tag">Babylonian Chronicles of the Hellenistic Period</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/cuneiform-studies/" rel="tag">cuneiform studies</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/why-cuneiform-studies-matter/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Why Cuneiform Studies Matter">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5355 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-greece category-archaeology category-architecture category-classics category-liviusorg tag-zone" id="post-5355"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/zone/" rel="bookmark">Zone</a></h2> <small>26 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/greece/zone/zone_satyr_bull.jpg"><img title="Photo Michel Gybels" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/greece/zone/zone_satyr_bull_s.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="136" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A satyr on a panther</p></div> <p>I have never been to <a href="http://www.livius.org/zo-zz/zone/zone.html" target="_blank"><strong>Zone</strong></a>, in the northwest of Greece, but I recently received an article and some photos from Mr Michel Gybels from Belgium. The town was settled in the seventh century BC by people from Samothrace, served as port of trade for the Thracian hinterland, and floutished in the early Hellenistic period. I loved the figurine of the satyr on the panther shown to the right: it’s perfect and beautiful.</p> <p>The new webpage is <a href="http://www.livius.org/zo-zz/zone/zone.html" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a>.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/zone/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/architecture/" rel="category tag">architecture</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/liviusorg/" rel="category tag">Livius.Org</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/zone/" rel="tag">Zone</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/zone/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Zone">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5348 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-classics category-military-history category-roman-religion tag-constantine" id="post-5348"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/constantines-conversion-again/" rel="bookmark">Constantine’s Conversion Again</a></h2> <small>20 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/constantine_sylvester_stallone_cm.jpg"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/emperors/constantine_sylvester_stallone_cm_s.JPG" alt="Photo Marco Prins" width="150" height="226" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Constantine</p></div> <p>One of the responses to my <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/common-errors-40-constantines-conversion/" target="_blank">initial posting on Constantine’s conversion</a> contained this remark:</p> <blockquote><p>Though I see Constantine’s conversion as a total fake (I think he did not believe anything really and was an opportunist)…</p></blockquote> <p>This is a good point, that deserves a reply at some length. <a href="http://www.livius.org/cn-cs/constantine/constantine.html" target="_blank">Constantine</a> was pragmatic, certainly, but precisely because of that, I think that the vision – whatever it may have been – was real.</p> <p>I am trying to imagine how I would respond to a politician who claims to have seen the light. I am not talking now about born-again American presidents like Jimmy Carter, but about someone who really claims to be on a mission from God. I think that I would, if I were in a bad mood, not trust him, and would, if I were in a good mood, recommend him to consult a psychiatrist.</p> <p>My distrust, I think, is pretty common. Leaders who claimed to have experienced some kind of revelation, were nearly always subject to ridicule: <a href="http://www.livius.org/aj-al/alexander/alexander00.html" target="_blank">Alexander</a>‘s soldiers did not believe he was the son of Ammon, Jesus dryly commented that “a prophet is not honored at home”, and Muhamad had to leave Mecca. Joan of Arc was subject to ridicule first, and the French king refused to help her later, when the English had taken her captive. <a href="http://www.livius.org/pn-po/polybius/polybius.html" target="_blank">Polybius</a> seems to shield Scipio Africanus from criticism by stating that the Roman general did not really believe in the mystical powers others attributed to him.</p> <p>Pretending to have a divine revelation is just not smart for a politician. People like Joan of Arc, Muhamad, and Jesus really must have experienced something, and I think Constantine must indeed have seen a vision (as mentioned as early in 309/310 by the Panegyricist). It must have confused him profoundly, first interpreting it as a sign from the sun god, later reinterpreting it as a sign from Christ. Personally, I find the idea very attractive that the Roman emperor, the most powerful man on earth, felt himself led by Something Bigger Than Himself, but never quite never understood what that might have been.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/constantines-conversion-again/#comments">4 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/roman-religion/" rel="category tag">Roman religion</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/constantine/" rel="tag">Constantine</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/constantines-conversion-again/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Constantine’s Conversion Again">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5337 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-archaeology category-classics category-historical-theory tag-zahi-hawass" id="post-5337"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/zahi-hawass-departure-of-a-comedian/" rel="bookmark">Zahi Hawass: Departure of a Comedian</a></h2> <small>18 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p><img class="aligncenter" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/zahihawass.jpg" alt="" width="531" height="395" /></p> <p>The Dutch newssite <a href="http://www.nu.nl/" target="_blank">Nu.nl</a> made an interesting mistake today. The news that Zahi Hawass, the Egyptian minister of Antiquities, had been dismissed, was preceded by another news item: “The end of a great comedian”.</p> <p>Let’s hope that Hawass’ successor takes more care of his own people and does not prefer to write his books in English. The Egyptians deserve someone who explains their past, and the past deserves Egyptians who understand why they should not loot excavations. Failing to educate his own people is Hawass’ greatest error.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/zahi-hawass-departure-of-a-comedian/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/zahi-hawass/" rel="tag">Zahi Hawass</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/zahi-hawass-departure-of-a-comedian/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Zahi Hawass: Departure of a Comedian">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5318 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-classics category-common-errors-about-antiquity category-medieval-history category-military-history category-roman-religion tag-christianity tag-constantine tag-sun-god tag-sun-halo tag-vision" id="post-5318"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/common-errors-40-constantines-conversion/" rel="bookmark">Common Errors (40): Constantine’s Conversion</a></h2> <small>13 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/constantine_sylvester_stallone_cm.jpg"><img alt="Photo Marco Prins" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/emperors/constantine_sylvester_stallone_cm_s.JPG" height="226" width="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Constantine (although I’m personally more reminded of Sylvester Stallone)</p></div> <p>Constantine converted to Christianity. No one denies that. The problem is that we don’t know when and how.</p> <p>The best-known story is that in October 312, <a href="http://www.livius.org/cn-cs/constantine/constantine.html" target="_blank">Constantine</a> defeated his rival <a href="http://www.livius.org/man-md/maxentius/maxentius.html" target="_blank">Maxentius</a> in a battle near the Milvian Bridge, just north of Rome. Prior to the battle, the victor had seen a cross in the sky together with the words “in this sign you will conquer”. After the fight, Constantine put an end to the persecution of the Christians and became a Christian himself. This is, more or less, as we learn it in school, this is how painters like Raphael have shown it, and this is how it is described by Eusebius, in the <em>Life of Constantine</em> (1.26-32), which he wrote in the late 330s.</p> <p>At the end of his life, Constantine was indeed a Christian. If we cannot accept Eusebius’ statement that the emperor was baptized several days before his death in 337 – and some methodological scepticism is always prudent – we can deduce the emperor’s beliefs from the tomb he had designed: he was to be buried in <a href="http://www.livius.org/cn-cs/constantinople/constantinople01.html" target="_blank">Constantinople</a>, together with relics of the twelve apostles. In other words, Constantine wanted to be commemorated as equal of the apostles (<em>isapostolos</em>) and as a second Christ – perhaps a bit blasphemous for modern Christian sentiments, but not below the standard of a Roman emperor, who was a <em>dominus et deus</em>.</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/maxentius_dresden2.JPG"><img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/emperors/maxentius_dresden2_s.JPG" height="208" width="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Maxentius (Museum Dresden)</p></div> <p>So, Constantine did convert to Christianity. But the story is far more complex than is commonly assumed.</p> <p>In the first place, the age of the persecutions was over when Constantine and Maxentius clashed. In the western provinces, where not many Christians were living, the emperors had already put an end to persecuting them several years before. There’s some debate about the exact date, but it must have happened before 312. In the eastern provinces, the emperor <a href="http://www.livius.org/ga-gh/galerius/galerius.html" target="_blank">Galerius </a>terminated the persecutions in 311, shortly before his death. In a malicious treatise called <a href="http://people.ucalgary.ca/%7Evandersp/Courses/texts/lactant/lactpers.html" target="_blank"><em>The Death of the Persecutors</em></a>, the Christian writer <a href="http://www.earlychurch.org.uk/lactantius.php" target="_blank">Lactantius</a> suggests that God had sent Galerius an exceptionally painful illness to make him see the error of his policy (<a href="http://people.ucalgary.ca/%7Evandersp/Courses/texts/lactant/lactpers.html#XXXIII" target="_blank">§33</a>; <a href="http://www.livius.org/maa-mam/maccabees/2macc09.html#5" target="_blank">cf. <em>2 Maccabees</em> 9.5</a>).</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/coin_constantine_sun.jpg"><img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/emperors/coin_constantine_sun_s.jpg" height="149" width="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Constantine and the Sun God</p></div> <p>So, the persecutions were not ended in 312, because they were over already. There was no vision either. That was a thing of the past as well: it happened in 309 or early in 310. At this stage, Constantine believed it was a manifestation of Apollo, whom he had identified as the sun-god. We have several coins from this years, like the one shown to the right, which shows Constantine with the sun-god’s chariot on his shield, and Apollo next to him. After Constantine had captured Rome, he rededicated the Colossus of the Sun, next to the Colosseum; that this monument was dear to him, is suggested by the fact that his triumphal arch was almost next to it.</p> <p>The oldest description of Constantine’s vision is a speech by an anonymous orator (<em>Panegyrici Latini</em> 7 (6) 21.4-5), who was praising Constantine and the city of <a href="http://www.livius.org/to-ts/trier/trier.html" target="_blank">Trier</a>, and refers to the emperor’s visit to “the most beautiful temple in the world”. Here, he had seen Apollo and Victory, who had offered him wreaths, promising him a rule of thirty years. We do not know what this vision may have looked like, but the description fits a sun halo like the one shown below. Halos are extremely impressive, and a large one may easily have been read as the Sun offering Constantine a wreath (or wreaths – there can be more than one halo), with three crosses indicating the number XXX.</p> <p><img class="aligncenter" alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/halo.jpg" height="251" width="450" /></p> <p>The evidence that Constantine saw only one cross with a written command to win “in this sign” (ἐν τούτῳ νίκα), is more than a quarter of a century younger. It can be found in Eusebius’ <em>Life of Constantine</em> (1.37-40). Under normal circumstances, we would discard this text, because it is younger and appears to be based upon a misunderstanding of the light vision of 309/310. The most plausible scenario is that Constantine experienced a light vision, which he at first interpreted as a sign of Apollo, but later – after he had conquered the Christian provinces in the east (in 324) – reinterpreted as a Christian miracle.</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/coin_licinius_bodemuseum.JPG"><img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/emperors/coin_licinius_bodemuseum_s.jpg" height="140" width="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Licinius (Bode Museum)</p></div> <p>This becomes even more attractive when we take into account that Eusebius does not know anything about a Christian vision in another book, the <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.i.html" target="_blank"><em>History of the Church</em></a>; in §9.9, he describes the Battle at the Milvian Bridge as the prelude to the Edict of Milan, in which Constantine and his ally <a href="http://www.livius.org/li-ln/licinius/licinius.html" target="_blank">Licinius</a> reaffirmed Galerius’ decision that Christianity was acceptable, and even promised some compensation to the Church. This must have been Licinius’ proposal, because he ruled in the eastern provinces and the new faith hardly mattered in the West. Apparently, it was Licinius who introduced the pro-Christian policy.</p> <p>To sum up: Constantine experienced the Light Vision in 309/310, agreed to Licinius’ pro-Christian policy, pursued this policy himself after he had defeated Licinius, became Christian in the last phase of his reign, and reinterpreted the vision. But if this is so plausible, why is everything attributed to the Battle of the Milvian Bridge?</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/1/germania/ursicinus.jpg"><img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/germania/ursicinus_s.JPG" height="118" width="150" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tombstone with the Christianized “chrestos” symbol (Rheinisches Landesmuseum, Bonn)</p></div> <p>The answer can be found in Lactantius’ <em>Death of the Persecutors</em>, written immediately after the Edict of Milan. He tells that before his fight with Maxentius, Constantine had a dream, in which he was ordered to put the <img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/christogram.gif" />-sign on the shields of his soldiers. When taken out of context, this confirms the story that Eusebius told a quarter of a century later, about the cross vision. The confirmation appears to be strong, especially because in the <em>Life of Constantine</em>, Eusebius continues his account of the vision with a description of Constantine’s military standard, and in his <em>History of the Church</em>, he mentions that the emperor wanted to be shown with the “salvation-bringing symbol” in his hand.</p> <p>However, Lactantius does not claim that Constantine converted to Christianity and does not even claim that the symbol was Christian. The same applies to Eusebius’ <em>History of the Church</em>: we read that Constantine wanted to be shown with the symbol in his hand, but it is not stated that Constantine realized that it was a <em>Christian</em> symbol. This may seem an unfair objection, but it must be stressed that Lactantius <em>also</em> mentions that Licinius has had a dream, in which angels announced his victory. Because this dream is an obvious invention by Lactantius, it is certainly possible that Constantine’s dream is an invention too.</p> <p>There’s another problem. The <img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/christogram.gif" />-sign certainly was a Christian symbol in the final years of Constantine’s reign. The symbol was also in use prior to the fourth century: readers used it to indicate in the margin of a text that something was <em>chrestos</em>, “useful”. Because an <em>/e/</em> and an <em>/i/</em> were more or less interchangeable at this time (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotacism" target="_blank">iotacism</a>), it is easy to understand why Christians started to use this well-known sign. The problem is <em>when</em> they started to use this.</p> <p>There is, to the best of my knowledge, only one <img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/christogram.gif" />-sign that <em>possibly</em> dates to the period before the Edict of Milan. It was found in the Preconstantine necropolis underneath the basilica of Saint Peter’s in Rome. It is certainly possible that this graffito was created by one of the construction workers, building the now famous church. (BTW: after 326, evidence again that Constantine did not pursue an active pro-Christian policy prior to the conquest of the eastern provinces.) To the best of my knowledge, all other <img alt="" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/christogram.gif" />-signs postdate the Edict of Milan, which creates the question what was meant by Constantine when he ordered his soldiers to paint it on their shields, why he put it on a standard, and why he wanted to be shown with the “salvation-bringing symbol”.</p> <p>The answer is that we don’t know for sure, but the symbol happens to be known from a temple of the Sun God from Illyricum. It is a combination of two symbols: the sun ✲ and the moon crescent Ͻ. We do not know whether Constantine knew this, but it is certainly tempting to assume that he had dedicated his army to the god of light, which he first believed to be Apollo, and later believed to be Christ.</p> <p>I am not claiming to know exactly what happened, but the normal story about Constantine converting after a cross vision and putting an end to the persecutions, is simply not true. It seems that three emperors contributed to the victory of Christianity: Galerius put an end to the persecutions, Licinius started to cooperate with the Church, and Constantine continued this policy, and really converted at the end of his life. He had, literally, seen the light.</p> <p style="text-align:center;"><strong><<a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/common-errors/" target="_blank">Overview of Common Errors</a>></strong></p> <p style="text-align:left;">There was an interesting response to this article, which is discussed <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/constantines-conversion-again/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/common-errors-40-constantines-conversion/#comments">5 Comments</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/common-errors-about-antiquity/" rel="category tag">common errors about Antiquity</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/medieval-history/" rel="category tag">medieval history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/roman-religion/" rel="category tag">Roman religion</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/christianity/" rel="tag">Christianity</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/constantine/" rel="tag">Constantine</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/sun-god/" rel="tag">Sun god</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/sun-halo/" rel="tag">sun halo</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/vision/" rel="tag">vision</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/common-errors-40-constantines-conversion/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Common Errors (40): Constantine’s Conversion">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5310 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-germany category-archaeology category-architecture category-classics category-military-history category-museums tag-e-mail-scams tag-fraud" id="post-5310"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/mainz-pedestals-for-sale/" rel="bookmark">Mainz Pedestals For Sale?</a></h2> <small>12 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/germany/mainz/kaestrich_pedestals_a2_march_lm.JPG"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/germany/mainz/kaestrich_pedestals_a2_march_lm_s.JPG" alt="" width="150" height="186" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">One of the twelve reliefs</p></div> <p>Of course, the <a href="http://www.livius.org/mo-mt/mogontiacum/mainz_pedestals.html" target="_blank"><strong>Mainz Pedestals</strong></a> are not for sale. They are safe in the Steinhalle in the <a href="http://www.landesmuseum-mainz.de/enid/2" target="_blank">Landesmuseum</a> in <a href="http://www.livius.org/mo-mt/mogontiacum/mogontiacum.html" target="_blank">Mainz</a>, and although the room itself is currently <a href="http://www.landesmuseum-mainz.de/enid/4ecf09cf289c26c00aaac765ad744c1c,43bb8e61727469636c656964092d0931303139093a095f7472636964092d0931303139/Sammlung/Roemer_em.html" target="_blank">under reconstruction</a>, there is no reason to despair about the museum’s finances. Nevertheless, here is the text of an e-mail I received this weekend:</p> <blockquote><p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>Hello</em></span></p> <p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>Am Mr Roy and am inquiry into your company about Mainz Pedestals? And i will like you to get back to me with the types,sizes and prices of them so i can proceed with the one am ordering.And i will like to know if you do Accepts major credit card as the mode of payments,And try and include your contact details when getting back to me , so i can give you a call as soon as possible,</em></span></p> <p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>your Prompts response and assistance will be much appreciated,</em></span></p> <p><span style="color:#000000;"><em>Thanks, Roy</em></span></p></blockquote> <p>I confess that I was tempted to reply to Mr Roy that I would love to buy the famous sculptures.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/mainz-pedestals-for-sale/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-germany/" rel="category tag">ancient germany</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/architecture/" rel="category tag">architecture</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/museums/" rel="category tag">museums</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/e-mail-scams/" rel="tag">E-mail scams</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/fraud/" rel="tag">fraud</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/12/mainz-pedestals-for-sale/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Mainz Pedestals For Sale?">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5297 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-rome category-archaeology category-classics category-historical-theory category-museums category-travel tag-irni" id="post-5297"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/looting/" rel="bookmark">Looting</a></h2> <small>11 July 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p>It must have been in the late 1980s or very early 1990s; my girlfriend and I were staying in Osuna in Spain. I wanted to visit Irni, where the Lex Irnitana had been found a couple of years before. We had already met a friendly man from Osuna, who had shown us some ancient finds from his land. We told him about our plan to go to Irni, and I think our host told someone that there were two people from Holland in town, interested in antiquities.</p> <p>Not much later, while we were eating tapas in a restaurant, a young man asked permission to join us, and told us about his work: with a metal detector, he was searching for antiquities, and he sold them to foreigners. I asked him whether he did not feel guilty, but he said he did not; he had in the past told professional archaeologists about his finds, but they had taken his finds to Madrid. So, he had decided to sell his finds to foreigners. In both scenarios, the objects were lost for Osuna, but by selling them, at least something returned to the region: money. (“For yourself”, I thought.)</p> <p>He offered his help if I wanted to purchase something, which I declined. Apparently, he concluded that we wanted to go to Irni to dig for ourselves, because next day, when we were there, we found the site guarded by someone with a gun, who continued to keep an eye on us, and cheerfully waved us goodbye when we left.</p> <p>I mention this, because the argument of the young man has always impressed me. If you find something and decide to cooperate with professional archaeologists, and if your only reward is that they send it to another place, there is no stimulus to cooperate. This is why I think that small local museums, like <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/museum-forum-arenacum-rindern/" target="_blank">Rindern</a> and <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/haus-burgel/" target="_blank">Haus Bürgel</a>, are extremely important. They make people realize that the past is also theirs, and make them more willing to cooperate.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/looting/#comments">1 Comment</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/museums/" rel="category tag">museums</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/travel/" rel="category tag">travel</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/irni/" rel="tag">Irni</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/looting/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Looting">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5249 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-classics category-latin-literature category-latin-poetry-latin-literature category-military-history category-storia-antica tag-carthage tag-carthage-must-be-destroyed tag-richard-miles" id="post-5249"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-2/" rel="bookmark">Review: R. Miles, Carthage Must Be Destroyed (2)</a></h2> <small>21 June 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p>[This is the second part of a review; the first part can be read <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-1/" target="_blank">here</a>.]</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/cmd.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="232" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Cover</p></div> <p>Miles offers an interesting twist to the well-known story of the war of <a href="http://www.livius.org/ha-hd/hannibal/hannibal.html" target="_blank">Hannibal</a>, the son of <a href="http://www.livius.org/ha-hd/hamilcar/hamilcar2.html" target="_blank">Hamilcar</a>, against Rome (218-201): he focuses on Hannibal’s use of the myth of <a href="http://www.livius.org/he-hg/heracles/heracles1.html" target="_blank">Heracles</a>. Miles is not the first to mention the cult of this macho deity as an instrument to create unity in the multi-ethnic expeditionary force, but he presents new readings of the ancient myths. He suggests that Hannibal’s self-presentation as the new Heracles must have been deeply disturbing to the Romans, who had justified their conquest of Italy with the same myth.</p> <p>Miles connects little-known stories to better known archaeological monuments and offers a fine story. His reconstruction of the propaganda war is fascinating – no doubt about it. Yet, I am not convinced that Miles’ reading of this ideological clash is correct. It is hard to accept that the Italian nations were reminded of Heracles and the cattle of Geryon when they saw Hannibal’s elephants. (Only one survived to reach Cumae.) Miles tells a good story, connecting many pieces of evidence to create meaning, but I do not believe that these connections were also recognized in Antiquity.</p> <p>As is well-known, Hannibal was in the end unsuccessful. Although defeated several times, Rome refused to recognize its defeat and its allies remained loyal. At precisely this point, the reader would have appreciated a causal explanation. After all, this is the heart of the matter: why did the Italian cities accept the burdens of war? What did Rome offer that made it attractive to continue a fight for what seemed to be a lost cause? What was <a href="http://www.livius.org/cao-caz/carthage/carthage.html" target="_blank">Carthage</a> lacking? In any case, the Roman commander Scipio managed to transfer the war from Italy to Africa, and forced the enemy into surrender. The sack of Carthage was postponed for half a century.</p> <p>Miles serves a dessert. The Romans believed that they had won this conflict because they had superior virtues, virtues that were the opposite of the Carthaginian vices. The Carthaginian became the anti-Roman, which meant that the image of Carthage had to change with Rome’s self-presentation. When Rome got involved in civil wars, when it became a monarchy, when the provinces became equal to their capital: every time, the image of Carthage changed.</p> <p>I liked this chapter very much, but was left wondering whether the historical significance of this once great North African metropolis was really nothing more than its contribution to Rome’s self-presentation. Unfortunately, Miles has little else to offer. “Attempts to conjure up contemporary relevance with regard to the ancient world can often appear trite and labored at best, and fatuous and false at worst,” he correctly observes, continuing with the platitude that “Western civilization was never an exclusively Graeco-Roman achievement” (does anybody say it is?) and “was the result of a much more complex set of interactions between many different cultures and peoples”. But who denies this?</p> <p>Miles could have proved the importance of his subject, though. He could have pointed out that the volume of Mediterranean trade had been expanding for some time already before the Carthaginian-Roman wars started and that the interaction between the Mediterranean regions was intensifying. Greece, Rome, and Carthage were all subject to this process, and the unification of the Mediterranean world was less caused by generals like Hannibal and Scipio than by this deep process of economic integration. A structural analysis of this ancient process of globalization might have resulted in a more convincing book. Although <em>Carthage Must Be Destroyed</em> contains a fascinating story, the reader is in the end left unsatisfied.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-2/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/latin-literature/" rel="category tag">Latin literature</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/latin-literature/latin-poetry-latin-literature/" rel="category tag">Latin poetry</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/storia-antica/" rel="category tag">storia antica</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/carthage/" rel="tag">Carthage</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/carthage-must-be-destroyed/" rel="tag">Carthage Must Be Destroyed</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/richard-miles/" rel="tag">Richard Miles</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-2/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Review: R. Miles, Carthage Must Be Destroyed (2)">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5244 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-archaeology category-classics category-military-history category-storia-antica tag-carthage tag-carthage-must-be-destroyed tag-richard-miles" id="post-5244"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-1/" rel="bookmark">Review: R. Miles: Carthage Must Be Destroyed (1)</a></h2> <small>21 June 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/cmd.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="232" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Cover</p></div> <p>The trouble with historical facts is that we cannot observe them. We will never see how the ancient <a href="http://www.livius.org/cao-caz/carthage/carthage.html" target="_blank">Carthaginians</a> were trading with the merchants of Andalusia, never have a look at the gardens in their cities, never hear them talk. It’s all forever lost. What we can do, however, is study the traces of these ancient acts. Carthage’s endless wars on <a href="http://www.livius.org/sh-si/sicily/sicily.html" target="_blank">Sicily</a> were described in texts that we can still study. We can excavate Carthaginian houses. The influence of trade on social relations can be deduced from the archaeological record.</p> <p>For historians, the indirectness of our knowledge is embarrassing. They want to reconstruct the connections between the events – they want to <em>explain</em> them, in other words – but if the facts are hard to know, the connections between them are even harder to understand. Establishing a cause is next to impossible. As a consequence, several theoreticians have argued that history is less about establishing causes than about telling a convincing story. Because the connections are irrecoverable, the meaning of the past cannot be deduced from the historical facts themselves. Instead, <em>we</em> can connect events and can <em>create</em> a meaningful narrative.</p> <p>Although he does not discuss these postmodernist theories, Richard Miles’ <em>Carthage Must Be Destroyed. The Rise and Fall of an Ancient Civilization</em> is an example of this approach. After an introduction in which he tells that it is his intention to retrieve “the historical significance of this once great North African metropolis”, he tells a beautiful story about Carthage’s origins, rise, splendor, and decline, without looking for deeper causes.</p> <p>The outline is well-known. Carthage was founded by Phoenician settlers, grew to become the master of the Western Mediterranean, and struggled against <a href="http://www.livius.org/su-sz/syracuse/syracuse_history01.html" target="_blank">Syracuse</a> to obtain supremacy on Sicily. Although wars were depressingly frequent, neither side was able to expel the other from the island. The Romans were more successful and Miles’ description of the <a href="http://www.livius.org/ps-pz/punic_war/1pw00.html" target="_blank">First Punic War</a> (264-241) is among the best parts of the book.</p> <p>After this war, Carthage was at the nadir of its fortunes. For a moment, it seemed that rebellious mercenaries would destroy the city, but <a href="http://www.livius.org/ha-hd/hamilcar/hamilcar2.html" target="_blank">Hamilcar</a> Barca defeated them and gained support for an ambitious project to compensate for the loss of Sicily: the conquest of Andalusia.</p> <p>[<a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-2/" target="_blank">to be continued</a>]</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-1/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/archaeology/" rel="category tag">Archaeology</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/military-history/" rel="category tag">military history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/storia-antica/" rel="category tag">storia antica</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/carthage/" rel="tag">Carthage</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/carthage-must-be-destroyed/" rel="tag">Carthage Must Be Destroyed</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/richard-miles/" rel="tag">Richard Miles</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-1/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Review: R. Miles: Carthage Must Be Destroyed (1)">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5237 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-egypt category-ancient-germany category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-ancient-iran category-ancient-persia category-ancient-rome category-classics category-historical-theory category-judaea category-latin-literature category-latin-poetry-latin-literature tag-erich-gruen tag-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity" id="post-5237"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-2/" rel="bookmark">Review: E. Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (2)</a></h2> <small>19 June 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p>[This is the second part of a review; the first one is <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-1/" target="_blank">here</a>.]</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/rethinking.Jpg" alt="" width="150" height="227" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Cover</p></div> <p>Nevertheless, Gruen tackles a non-problem. I do not think there are many scholars who believe that the Romans were always hostile about the Germans, that the Greeks never said something kind about the Egyptians, and that everybody disliked the Jews. Granted, Gruen refers to Antony Pagden, the author of <em>Worlds at War</em> (2008), as an example of someone who makes gross mistakes; but who takes Pagden’ simple ontological holism seriously? As the regular readers of this little blog will be aware, I am usually the first one to agree that the current generation of classicists and ancient historians is not up to their tasks (<a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/shame-where-is-thy-blush/" target="_blank">example</a>), but they are not as short-sighted as Pagden. Really. I think that most readers of Gruen’s book will read the words “the distance between cultures could be crossed in multiple and intriguing ways that elide the antithesis” with a certain indifference. Duh.</p> <p>As I said, Gruen asks the wrong question. His answer is also incomplete. Granted, the subject matter is so rich that it is impossible to deal with every single aspect. No one will blame Gruen for not mentioning the temple of Isis in Rome, a fully Egyptian enclave in Italy about which many hostile stories were told, but which was still the largest sanctuary in a city that did not lack large sanctuaries. (Come to think of it, on the Palatine, the core of the core of Rome, the tallest temples were dedicated to Cybele and <a href="http://www.livius.org/ro-rz/rome/rome_t_elagabal.html" target="_blank">Elagabal</a>.)</p> <p>Yet, if Gruen wants to prove that cultural interconnectedness was important, it is not smart to use evidence from comparatively little-known authors like Silius Italicus. Why not Virgil himself, with his borrowings from Jewish literature in his account of Aeneas’ descent into the Netherworld? A chapter on xenophobia and xenophilia in Rome’s greatest authors might have strengthened Gruen’s thesis.</p> <p>Summa summarum: <em>Rethinking the Other in Antiquity</em> has some conceptual weaknesses, but it is fascinating and interesting, and the reader will enjoy the pleasant feeling that there is still a lot to be discovered about the ancient world. “Classical” does not mean that everything about it has already been said.</p> <p>More than once, I was reminded of my teacher, the late Pieter Willem de Neeve, who once had to review another book by Gruen, which he considered to be only partly successful, but which he also liked very much, because Gruen had shown many new aspects of texts which De Neeve had believed he already knew. This was also my experience, which says a lot about Gruen’s broad look at things, and about the texts from the ancient world: you can read them a hundred times, and they continue to surprise you.</p> <p>References to Lévi-Strauss are mercifully absent.</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-2/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-egypt/" rel="category tag">ancient egypt</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-germany/" rel="category tag">ancient germany</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-iran/" rel="category tag">ancient Iran</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-persia/" rel="category tag">ancient persia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/judaea/" rel="category tag">judaea</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/latin-literature/" rel="category tag">Latin literature</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/latin-literature/latin-poetry-latin-literature/" rel="category tag">Latin poetry</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/erich-gruen/" rel="tag">Erich Gruen</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity/" rel="tag">Rethinking the Other in Antiquity</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-2/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Review: E. Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (2)">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5234 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-egypt category-ancient-germany category-ancient-greece category-ancient-history category-ancient-iran category-ancient-persia category-ancient-rome category-classics category-historical-theory category-judaea category-latin-literature tag-erich-gruen tag-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity" id="post-5234"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-1/" rel="bookmark">Review: E. Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (1)</a></h2> <small>19 June 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/rethinking.Jpg" alt="" width="150" height="227" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Cover</p></div> <p><em>Rethinking the Other in Antiquity</em> is a fascinating book. This conclusion is in itself interesting, because author <a href="http://history.berkeley.edu/faculty/Gruen/" target="_blank">Erich Gruen</a> asks the wrong question and offers an incomplete answer. However, he also offers much interesting information. In the end, the book is pretty successful.</p> <p>First, the wrong question. Analysis of “the Other” has been a fashionable topic for quite a long time already. Typically, an ancient historian or classicist collected everything that the Greeks and Romans had written about one of their neighbors (e.g., the Persians, <a href="http://www.livius.org/sao-sd/scythians/scythians.html" target="_blank">Scythians</a>, <a href="http://www.livius.org/cao-caz/carthage/carthage.html" target="_blank">Carthaginians</a>, Germans) and investigated how the classical authors presented their subject matter. The Carthaginian from literature often turned out to be a kind of anti-Roman, with all vices that the Romans detested most in themselves. In an interesting chapter in his <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/review-r-miles-carthage-must-be-destroyed-1/" target="_blank"><em>Carthage Must Be Destroyed</em></a> (2010), British classicist Richard Miles showed how the Carthaginian vices changed with the developing self-image of the Romans.</p> <p>To the best of my knowledge, no classicist or historian has ever claimed that the “Other” was <em>only</em> the anti-Greek or anti-Roman. When I read an article about, say, Greek images of Egypt, I never have the impression that the modern author implied that the Greeks did not also recognize the Egyptians as human beings with whom they had a lot in common. Yet, Gruen sets out to show that the same sources that are read as presentations of the Other, can be read as evidence that the ancient nations recognized similarities.</p> <p>The result is, as I said, fascinating and certainly worth reading. Of course, the relations were not just black and white, “we” versus “the other”, antagonistic only. The stories that the ancient nations told about each other, indeed show that they often believed that they had a lot to share.</p> <p>In the first part of the book, “Impressions of the Other”, Gruen deals with Greek ideas about the Persians and Egyptians, Roman views of Carthage, <a href="http://www.livius.org/caa-can/caesar/caesar01.html" target="_blank">Caesar</a>’s Gauls, <a href="http://www.livius.org/ta-td/tacitus/tacitus.html" target="_blank">Tacitus</a>’ Germans and Jews, and ideas about people with a different color. In the brilliant second part, “Connections with the Other”, Gruen presents the patterns used to stress cultural interconnectedness. In their foundation legends, for example, the Greeks and Romans presented themselves as descendants from other nations; in genealogical lists, Greeks and Jews could describe themselves as brothers of other nations; and there was always a possibility to adopt each other’s roles, like a Greek presenting a Jew as in the traditionally Greek role of philosopher.</p> <p>Often, Gruen’s conclusions seem a bit too obvious. I was not surprised to read that <a href="http://www.livius.org/ad-af/aeschylus/aeschylus.html" target="_blank">Aeschylus</a> does not present us with a hostile portrayal of the Persians in his famous play with the same title. Still, Gruen has a lot of interesting observations to make. I had not expected that the famous expression “Punica fides” is in fact very rare. There were many surprises, especially in the second part of the book.</p> <p>[<a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-2/" target="_blank">to be continued</a>]</p> </div> <p class="postmetadata"> <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/speech_bubble.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-1/#respond">Leave a Comment »</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/documents.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-egypt/" rel="category tag">ancient egypt</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-germany/" rel="category tag">ancient germany</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-greece/" rel="category tag">ancient greece</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-history/" rel="category tag">ancient history</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-iran/" rel="category tag">ancient Iran</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-persia/" rel="category tag">ancient persia</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/ancient-rome/" rel="category tag">ancient rome</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/classics/" rel="category tag">Classics</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/historical-theory/" rel="category tag">historical theory</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/judaea/" rel="category tag">judaea</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/category/latin-literature/" rel="category tag">Latin literature</a> | Tagged: <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/erich-gruen/" rel="tag">Erich Gruen</a>, <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/tag/rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity/" rel="tag">Rethinking the Other in Antiquity</a> | <img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/permalink.gif" alt="" /> <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/review-e-gruen-rethinking-the-other-in-antiquity-1/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Review: E. Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (1)">Permalink</a> <br /><img src="https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/themes/pub/contempt/images/blog/figure_ver1.gif" alt="" /> Posted by Jona Lendering </p> </div> <hr /> <div class="post-5221 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-ancient-history category-ancient-rome category-classics category-latin-literature category-latin-poetry-latin-literature category-roman-religion category-storia-antica tag-alan-cameron tag-decline-and-fall tag-eugenius tag-gibbon tag-karl-popper tag-pagnism tag-the-last-pagans-of-rome" id="post-5221"> <h2><a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/review-a-cameron-the-last-pagans-of-rome-4/" rel="bookmark">Review: A. Cameron, The Last Pagans of Rome (4)</a></h2> <small>18 June 2011</small><br /> <div class="entry"> <p>[This is the fourth part of a review of Alan Cameron’s <a href="http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/ClassicalStudies/AncientReligions/?view=usa&ci=9780199747276" target="_blank"><em>The Last Pagans of Rome</em></a> (2011); the first part is <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/review-a-cameron-the-last-pagans-of-rome-1/" target="_blank">here</a>.]</p> <div style="width: 160px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://www.livius.org/a/2/blog/pagans.jpg"><img src="https://i0.wp.com/www.livius.org/a/2/blog/pagans.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="214" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Cover</p></div> <p>I argued that Cameron’s thesis that there was no late fourth-century pagan revival looks convincing. However, this could also be said of Gibbon’s reconstruction of the events, which looked convincing for no less than two centuries. How can we establish which theory is better, in a field of scholarship where eight sources is many? We cannot test the two theories empirically: the necessary facts are too ‘soft’.</p> <p>In situations like these, we need a logical principle to proceed. To paraphrase Karl Popper: the theory that tells most, is to be preferred. That is to say, a theory that has more empirical content: covering more ancient information of a more diverse nature. Now Cameron covers more ground than all of the earlier scholars: even though the number of sources has not expanded very much, he deals with more coins, more inscriptions, more objects of art. Our lack of information about this age is still disastrous, but Cameron uses his small advantage completely. There is not a single aspect of Late Antiquity – or at least the Latin part of it, because I would have loved to read more about the eastern half of the Empire – that he does not discuss.</p> <p>This means that his book is also very long: 808 pages of text, excluding the index, an appendix and a “selected” bibliography of forty-six pages of fine print. You need to know something about Late Antiquity (don’t consider buying it if <a href="http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Rutilius_Namatianus/home.html" target="_blank">Rutilius Namatianus</a> is unknown to you), but Cameron offers at least two weeks of intellectual adventure. This was the most interesting and rewarding book I have read since the fourth volume of Meyer’s <a href="https://rambambashi.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/a-marginal-jew-vol-4/" target="_blank"><em>Marginal Jew</em></a>.</p> <p>Complex and detailed, but <em>The Last Pagans of Rome</em> is superb. Summarized unfriendly, Cameron proves that paganism did not resist Christianity. How could it have been different? Christians were well-organized, while the pagans did not recognize themselves as one group, and never organized themselves.</p> <p>But as Cameron indicates, there’s another, more positive way to look at it. The classical tradition was so completely absorbed by Christianity that we often cannot identify who was pagan and who was Christian. Both parties cared for the classical heritage. This has still consequences for us: the classical canon that we know, which includes texts in “silver Latin”, is not identical to the set of texts that was most popular when Rome was at its cultural zenith. What we can read today, reflects the taste of Late Antiquity.</p> <p>The opposition between Christians and pagans, in which only the last-mentioned were the keepers of the classics, is a false one. Not the fathers of the Church and the fanatical pagans are typical for the late fourth century, but the moderates, who changed religion but did not abandon the classics. I imagine they were just too polite and well-mannered to make religion a divisive issue. With one host, they joined in a Christian prayer; upon entering another house, they burned some incense for the ancestors. 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